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You"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3048.56,"endTime":3050.51,"body":"think it is it's really not"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3052.28,"endTime":3054.02,"body":"so good."},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3052.28,"endTime":3054.02,"body":"Anything you've been reading or"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3054.02,"endTime":3055.43,"body":"watching lately, you could"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3054.02,"endTime":3055.43,"body":"recommend."},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3056.72,"endTime":3060.56,"body":"I just read a book"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3056.72,"endTime":3060.56,"body":"called The Amen effect and I"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3060.56,"endTime":3065.48,"body":"love Love, love that book. 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Where would"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3076.88,"endTime":3079.28,"body":"you like to point people to?"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3080.12,"endTime":3083.57,"body":"Um, well my website"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3080.12,"endTime":3083.57,"body":"is Kathy is her.com I'm on"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3083.57,"endTime":3088.28,"body":"Instagram at Kathy Izzard CLT"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3083.57,"endTime":3088.28,"body":"for Charlotte. So Kathy, Izzard"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3088.28,"endTime":3092.63,"body":"CLT. 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Go make that"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3158.2400000000002,"endTime":3161.78,"body":"phone call that you haven't made"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3161.84,"endTime":3165.35,"body":"for a while, that they would"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3161.84,"endTime":3165.35,"body":"trust that they would take those"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3165.35,"endTime":3169.46,"body":"steps and then they would say"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3165.35,"endTime":3169.46,"body":"that as these small things"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3169.46,"endTime":3173.69,"body":"happen. Big things and big"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3169.46,"endTime":3173.69,"body":"stories will take place. So"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3173.87,"endTime":3175.61,"body":"thank you for this conversation."},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":3173.87,"endTime":3175.61,"body":"Kathy was great."},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3175.91,"endTime":3177.2,"body":"I love talking with"},{"speaker":"Kathy Izard","startTime":3175.91,"endTime":3177.2,"body":"you."}]}