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If you go to Jared"},{"speaker":"Jared Brock","startTime":2821.02,"endTime":2825.06,"body":"brock.com you can get my first"},{"speaker":"Jared Brock","startTime":2821.02,"endTime":2825.06,"body":"book on prayer for free, as well"},{"speaker":"Jared Brock","startTime":2825.06,"endTime":2828.2400000000002,"body":"as three of the documentaries we"},{"speaker":"Jared Brock","startTime":2825.06,"endTime":2828.2400000000002,"body":"made for free. So a devil name"},{"speaker":"Jared Brock","startTime":2828.2400000000002,"endTime":2829.7400000000002,"body":"lucifer.com and Jared. Brock.com"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2830.82,"endTime":2832.86,"body":"Awesome. It's"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2830.82,"endTime":2832.86,"body":"fantastic. Well, Jared, thank"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2832.86,"endTime":2835.68,"body":"you for this conversation. Thank"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2832.86,"endTime":2835.68,"body":"you for right sizing the devil,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2835.92,"endTime":2842.18,"body":"giving us a real view of who he"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2835.92,"endTime":2842.18,"body":"is, what he has done, how little"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2842.2400000000002,"endTime":2845.48,"body":"that he actually shows up within"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2842.2400000000002,"endTime":2845.48,"body":"scripture, that he is a cheese"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2845.48,"endTime":2850.46,"body":"and bread sandwich, that we"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2845.48,"endTime":2850.46,"body":"could just enjoy our bread and"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2850.46,"endTime":2854.18,"body":"our olive oil, because it's a"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2850.46,"endTime":2854.18,"body":"little bit more more pronounced"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2854.18,"endTime":2859.52,"body":"in the Bible than than the devil"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2854.18,"endTime":2859.52,"body":"himself, and that he is not"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2859.76,"endTime":2863.32,"body":"Lucifer because he is not a"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2859.76,"endTime":2863.32,"body":"light bringer. 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But these are"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2871.72,"endTime":2875.86,"body":"temptations to get us away from"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2871.72,"endTime":2875.86,"body":"following King Jesus, who is the"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2875.86,"endTime":2880.66,"body":"ultimate power and authority and"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2875.86,"endTime":2880.66,"body":"goodness in this world that we"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2880.66,"endTime":2885.66,"body":"get to be princes in his"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2880.66,"endTime":2885.66,"body":"kingdom. Fantastic. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2885.66,"endTime":2889.26,"body":"for this conversation. It was"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2885.66,"endTime":2889.26,"body":"fun. I love talking to you."},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2889.26,"endTime":2890.28,"body":"Yeah, thanks for having me."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2903.84,"endTime":2903.96,"body":"You"}]}