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So So dive in."},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2956.34,"endTime":2959.04,"body":"Excellent Kerry,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2956.34,"endTime":2959.04,"body":"thank you for this conversation."},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2959.04,"endTime":2963.2,"body":"I really enjoyed it. The joy"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2959.04,"endTime":2963.2,"body":"that you have exudes from you,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2963.2,"endTime":2967.82,"body":"and I just, yeah, I pray that it"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2963.2,"endTime":2967.82,"body":"actually gets into other people,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2967.82,"endTime":2971.72,"body":"that they can just dive into"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2967.82,"endTime":2971.72,"body":"these practices to help them"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2972.2,"endTime":2978.5,"body":"cultivate a better life as they"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2972.2,"endTime":2978.5,"body":"age, as they grow, that all of"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2978.5,"endTime":2982.54,"body":"this, This joy leads into"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2978.5,"endTime":2982.54,"body":"longevity, leads into health,"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2983.14,"endTime":2987.16,"body":"and we can actually have some"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2983.14,"endTime":2987.16,"body":"interdependence and some"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2987.16,"endTime":2991.48,"body":"intergenerational connection"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2987.16,"endTime":2991.48,"body":"with people, to value people as"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2991.48,"endTime":2994.12,"body":"they go through an aging"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2991.48,"endTime":2994.12,"body":"process, because we're all in"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2994.12,"endTime":2997.48,"body":"the aging process ourselves. So"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2994.12,"endTime":2997.48,"body":"thank you, Carrie, it was"},{"speaker":"Joshua Johnson","startTime":2997.48,"endTime":2998.14,"body":"fantastic."},{"speaker":"Kerry Burnight","startTime":2998.2,"endTime":3000.66,"body":"Very much. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Kerry Burnight","startTime":2998.2,"endTime":3000.66,"body":"God wants that for us, and I"},{"speaker":"Kerry Burnight","startTime":3000.66,"endTime":3003.86,"body":"really appreciate the work"},{"speaker":"Kerry Burnight","startTime":3000.66,"endTime":3003.86,"body":"you're doing, and this shifting"},{"speaker":"Kerry Burnight","startTime":3003.86,"endTime":3007.34,"body":"culture podcast means so much."},{"speaker":"Kerry Burnight","startTime":3003.86,"endTime":3007.34,"body":"Thank you. You."}]}