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And so"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3509.6600000000003,"endTime":3514.1000000000004,"body":"reach out to us because we will"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3514.1000000000004,"endTime":3518.5400000000004,"body":"coach you and help you make"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3514.1000000000004,"endTime":3518.5400000000004,"body":"vital connections to whatever"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3518.5400000000004,"endTime":3521.4800000000005,"body":"part of the industry you want."},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3518.5400000000004,"endTime":3521.4800000000005,"body":"Whether that's manufacturing,"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3522.5000000000005,"endTime":3527.96,"body":"development, installation, or"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3522.5000000000005,"endTime":3527.96,"body":"other service providers in the"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3527.96,"endTime":3532.5800000000004,"body":"industry. There's a huge economy"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3527.96,"endTime":3532.5800000000004,"body":"that is now just swelling up"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3532.5800000000004,"endTime":3535.61,"body":"like a huge wave, right we are"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3532.5800000000004,"endTime":3535.61,"body":"at the bottom of the S curve."},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3535.88,"endTime":3539.8700000000003,"body":"And now we're creating this"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3535.88,"endTime":3539.8700000000003,"body":"massive economic wave, which is"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3540.17,"endTime":3545.2400000000002,"body":"clean jobs and prosperity for"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3540.17,"endTime":3545.2400000000002,"body":"capitalists like you and I John"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3545.2400000000002,"endTime":3548.7200000000003,"body":"Well thank you so much to"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3545.2400000000002,"endTime":3548.7200000000003,"body":"everyone who's watching the live"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3548.7200000000003,"endTime":3552.4700000000003,"body":"and please go to clean power"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3548.7200000000003,"endTime":3552.4700000000003,"body":"hour.com And subscribe to the"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3552.4700000000003,"endTime":3556.28,"body":"show give us a rating and a"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3552.4700000000003,"endTime":3556.28,"body":"review. Most of all a review on"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3556.28,"endTime":3559.8500000000004,"body":"Apple and Spotify. With that I"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3556.28,"endTime":3559.8500000000004,"body":"want to say let's grow solar and"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3559.8500000000004,"endTime":3561.5600000000004,"body":"storage. I'm Tim Montague. Thank"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3559.8500000000004,"endTime":3561.5600000000004,"body":"you, John."}]}