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So how"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2462.6000000000004,"endTime":2465.69,"body":"can people reach you Michael?"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2466.7000000000003,"endTime":2469.61,"body":"Check me out on"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2466.7000000000003,"endTime":2469.61,"body":"LinkedIn, Michael Wood, the"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2469.61,"endTime":2473.69,"body":"third like I at the website for"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2469.61,"endTime":2473.69,"body":"energy terminal,"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2473.84,"endTime":2479.69,"body":"www.energy-terminal.com. You can"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2473.84,"endTime":2479.69,"body":"find our podcast wherever you"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2479.69,"endTime":2483.4100000000003,"body":"get your podcasts. 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Just click"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2505.94,"endTime":2509.03,"body":"the YouTube icon at the top of"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2509.03,"endTime":2513.2000000000003,"body":"the page on cleanpowerhour.com."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2509.03,"endTime":2513.2000000000003,"body":"I want to thank Michael Wood of"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2513.2000000000003,"endTime":2515.9300000000003,"body":"energy terminal and Duke"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2513.2000000000003,"endTime":2515.9300000000003,"body":"University for coming on the"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2515.9300000000003,"endTime":2518.3,"body":"show today. It's great to see"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2515.9300000000003,"endTime":2518.3,"body":"you, Michael and I look forward"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2518.3,"endTime":2522.05,"body":"to charting your career over the"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2518.3,"endTime":2522.05,"body":"coming years."},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2522.3700000000003,"endTime":2524.4700000000003,"body":"Thanks Tim has a"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2522.3700000000003,"endTime":2524.4700000000003,"body":"lot of fun. Thanks for having me"},{"speaker":"Michael Wood","startTime":2524.4700000000003,"endTime":2524.9800000000005,"body":"on the show."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2525.1800000000003,"endTime":2527.46,"body":"I'm Tim Montague."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2525.1800000000003,"endTime":2527.46,"body":"Let's grow solar and storage."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2527.4900000000002,"endTime":2528.09,"body":"Take care"}]}