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You can contact us"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3750.4100000000003,"endTime":3753.86,"body":"there. You could give us a call."},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3750.4100000000003,"endTime":3753.86,"body":"We have a phone number. You"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3753.86,"endTime":3756.5000000000005,"body":"could send me an email. You"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3753.86,"endTime":3756.5000000000005,"body":"could also go to Twitter, solar"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3756.5000000000005,"endTime":3760.0400000000004,"body":"and mass and LinkedIn. John"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3756.5000000000005,"endTime":3760.0400000000004,"body":"Fitzgerald Weaver. I'm all over"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3760.1000000000004,"endTime":3761.09,"body":"Tim. What about"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3761.09,"endTime":3764.3,"body":"where you could go"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3761.09,"endTime":3764.3,"body":"to Vegas, September 11 to 14th."},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3765.0200000000004,"endTime":3767.1800000000003,"body":"I'll be there for"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3765.0200000000004,"endTime":3767.1800000000003,"body":"the whole week. Christian"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3767.1800000000003,"endTime":3772.7000000000003,"body":"Roseland. And I will be taking"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3767.1800000000003,"endTime":3772.7000000000003,"body":"the train Timothy from Boston to"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3772.7000000000003,"endTime":3776.4800000000005,"body":"Vail way. No way. Yes, sir. No"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3772.7000000000003,"endTime":3776.4800000000005,"body":"way. 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So when"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3796.07,"endTime":3798.2300000000005,"body":"do you get when do you arrive"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3798.2300000000005,"endTime":3798.92,"body":"into Vegas?"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3800.03,"endTime":3802.34,"body":"Monday gonna be"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3800.03,"endTime":3802.34,"body":"there late Sunday, early Monday,"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3802.34,"endTime":3805.1000000000004,"body":"Sunday? No, the 10th. The 10th"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":3802.34,"endTime":3805.1000000000004,"body":"or"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3805.1000000000004,"endTime":3808.8500000000004,"body":"the 10th is"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3805.1000000000004,"endTime":3808.8500000000004,"body":"Sunday. I get laid on the 10th"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3810.7700000000004,"endTime":3813.7400000000002,"body":"be setting up on the 11th. 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