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Good"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2182.4500000000003,"endTime":2187.21,"body":"to meet you, kiss I in San"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2182.4500000000003,"endTime":2187.21,"body":"Diego, and check out all of our"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2187.21,"endTime":2190.69,"body":"content at Clean Power hour.com"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2187.21,"endTime":2190.69,"body":"Please give us a rating and"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2190.69,"endTime":2194.8900000000003,"body":"review on Apple or Spotify. Tell"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2190.69,"endTime":2194.8900000000003,"body":"a friend about the show, and you"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2194.8900000000003,"endTime":2197.05,"body":"can reach out to commercial"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2194.8900000000003,"endTime":2197.05,"body":"solar guy at commercial solar"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2197.05,"endTime":2200.4700000000003,"body":"guy.com we have the streamer now"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2197.05,"endTime":2200.4700000000003,"body":"going across the bottom there,"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2200.8900000000003,"endTime":2203.4300000000003,"body":"but I want to thank John Weaver"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2200.8900000000003,"endTime":2203.4300000000003,"body":"for. 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It's a lovely"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2239.51,"endTime":2242.4500000000003,"body":"event, lots of installers,"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2242.4500000000003,"endTime":2246.19,"body":"engineers, technicians, and, of"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2242.4500000000003,"endTime":2246.19,"body":"course, the whole CPS team"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2246.67,"endTime":2249.4900000000002,"body":"geeking out on three phase"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2246.67,"endTime":2249.4900000000002,"body":"string inverters and battery"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2249.4900000000002,"endTime":2253.3300000000004,"body":"storage. So join us in Dallas."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2249.4900000000002,"endTime":2253.3300000000004,"body":"And with that, I'll say, let's"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2253.3300000000004,"endTime":2254.9500000000003,"body":"grow solar and storage. 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