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Find you."},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2566.19,"endTime":2569.07,"body":"Commercial solar"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2566.19,"endTime":2569.07,"body":"guy.com commercial solar"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2569.07,"endTime":2573.8100000000004,"body":"guy.com, we should get a cool"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2569.07,"endTime":2573.8100000000004,"body":"jingle. Tim, clean power, power."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2575.6690000000003,"endTime":2579.2090000000003,"body":"We share. This"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2575.6690000000003,"endTime":2579.2090000000003,"body":"friend of mine is threatening to"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2579.2090000000003,"endTime":2583.6490000000003,"body":"ride your jingle for me, there"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2579.2090000000003,"endTime":2583.6490000000003,"body":"you go. He's been threatening. I"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2584.07,"endTime":2587.3300000000004,"body":"gotta give them"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2584.07,"endTime":2587.3300000000004,"body":"some beer, beer and 50 bucks"},{"speaker":"John Weaver","startTime":2588.7700000000004,"endTime":2589.8500000000004,"body":"getting roughers,"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2591.7700000000004,"endTime":2594.8300000000004,"body":"you know, all"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2591.7700000000004,"endTime":2594.8300000000004,"body":"right. And in the meantime,"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2594.8300000000004,"endTime":2598.55,"body":"let's grow solar and storage."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2594.8300000000004,"endTime":2598.55,"body":"Storage. Take care. Take care."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":2598.55,"endTime":2598.67,"body":"You."}]}