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I want to"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":372.366,"endTime":376.51599999999996,"body":"thank all of our viewers and"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":376.59000000000003,"endTime":381.03599999999994,"body":"listeners for being here today."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":376.59000000000003,"endTime":381.03599999999994,"body":"It's really an honor to have"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":381.111,"endTime":385.26099999999997,"body":"such an illustrious panel of"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":381.111,"endTime":385.26099999999997,"body":"experts and all of you here"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":385.33500000000004,"endTime":389.707,"body":"viewing and listening. 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I see some of our"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1413.5,"endTime":1418.103,"body":"listeners have already put"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1413.5,"endTime":1418.103,"body":"questions in the chat in the Q"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1418.184,"endTime":1423.19,"body":"and A, so please keep that up"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1418.184,"endTime":1423.19,"body":"and we're going to move on to Dr"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1423.271,"endTime":1425.29,"body":"Majdi Abou Najm, welcome."},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":1426.13,"endTime":1429.91,"body":"Thank you, Tim"},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":1426.13,"endTime":1429.91,"body":"and hello everyone. So I'm a"},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":1429.91,"endTime":1434.23,"body":"soil physicist, hydrologist and"},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":1429.91,"endTime":1434.23,"body":"the systems engineer. 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Tim,"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1788.29,"endTime":1792.67,"body":"great. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1788.29,"endTime":1792.67,"body":"so much, Professor, Majdi. And"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1792.67,"endTime":1796.27,"body":"last but not least, John"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1792.67,"endTime":1796.27,"body":"Langdon, Oregon farmer, welcome."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":1796.8700000000001,"endTime":1798.01,"body":"Thank you, Tim. My"},{"speaker":"John Langdon","startTime":1798.01,"endTime":1801.076,"body":"name is John"},{"speaker":"John Langdon","startTime":1798.01,"endTime":1801.076,"body":"Langdon. 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There's also an event at"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3543.909,"endTime":3547.6890000000003,"body":"UC Davis. Who would like to tell"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3547.6890000000003,"endTime":3550.989,"body":"us about that event in November?"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3547.6890000000003,"endTime":3550.989,"body":"Go ahead."},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3552.01,"endTime":3554.9680000000003,"body":"Yeah. So we have"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3552.01,"endTime":3554.9680000000003,"body":"the third agrivoltaics"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3555.0440000000003,"endTime":3559.746,"body":"California agrable takes day at"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3555.0440000000003,"endTime":3559.746,"body":"UC Davis, and mostly that's on"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3559.822,"endTime":3564.373,"body":"the fifth of November, correct?"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3559.822,"endTime":3564.373,"body":"Yes. And we probably have an"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3564.449,"endTime":3569.0760000000005,"body":"afternoon prior to that to see"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3564.449,"endTime":3569.0760000000005,"body":"the facility Majdi was talking"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3569.152,"endTime":3573.4750000000004,"body":"about, and get together and"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3569.152,"endTime":3573.4750000000004,"body":"discuss, you know, how can we"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3573.5510000000004,"endTime":3576.51,"body":"solve the water, food and energy"},{"speaker":"Helge Biernath","startTime":3573.5510000000004,"endTime":3576.51,"body":"nexus?"},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":3577.53,"endTime":3579.69,"body":"I look forward"},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":3577.53,"endTime":3579.69,"body":"to seeing you all in Davis."},{"speaker":"Ian Skor (Sandbox Solar)","startTime":3580.7700000000004,"endTime":3581.7900000000004,"body":"It's"},{"speaker":"Ian Skor (Sandbox Solar)","startTime":3580.7700000000004,"endTime":3581.7900000000004,"body":"going to be great."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3583.2900000000004,"endTime":3586.059,"body":"I wish we had more"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3583.2900000000004,"endTime":3586.059,"body":"time, but unfortunately, we"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3586.119,"endTime":3589.791,"body":"don't, and I just want to thank"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3586.119,"endTime":3589.791,"body":"our panelists for making time"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3589.851,"endTime":3593.643,"body":"for us today. It's great to have"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3589.851,"endTime":3593.643,"body":"so many experts and passionate"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3593.7030000000004,"endTime":3597.074,"body":"promoters of agrivoltaics in our"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3593.7030000000004,"endTime":3597.074,"body":"midst. Thank you to our"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3597.135,"endTime":3600.927,"body":"listeners and viewers for coming"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3597.135,"endTime":3600.927,"body":"to the event, and please check"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3600.987,"endTime":3604.1780000000003,"body":"out all of their content,"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3600.987,"endTime":3604.1780000000003,"body":"including this recording at"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3604.2380000000003,"endTime":3607.4880000000003,"body":"cleanpowerhour.com and with"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3604.2380000000003,"endTime":3607.4880000000003,"body":"that, I'll say, See you in"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3607.5490000000004,"endTime":3611.2810000000004,"body":"Chicago in August, hopefully."},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3607.5490000000004,"endTime":3611.2810000000004,"body":"Let's grow agrivoltaics. I'm Tim"},{"speaker":"Tim Montague","startTime":3611.3410000000003,"endTime":3613.6890000000003,"body":"Montague. Thank you so much, everybody."},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":3615.55,"endTime":3617.8900000000003,"body":"Thank you"},{"speaker":"Professor Majdi","startTime":3615.55,"endTime":3617.8900000000003,"body":"everyone. Thank you. You."}]}