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Lift OneSelf Podcast - Mental Health, Healing & Wellness
Transform your mental health through real stories and real-time healing practices.
Host NatNat Be invites experts and everyday people to share their personal journeys navigating anxiety, depression, trauma, and emotional challenges, then guide you through the healing practices that helped them transform.
Experience breathwork, meditation, somatic techniques, and therapy tools in real time. Whether youβre seeking emotional healing, stress relief, or personal growth strategies, youβll find raw, authentic stories and actionable practices you can use immediately.
This is emotional sobriety in action.
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You're Not Healing, You're Just Thinking About Healing
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Why does resilience feel so heavy? Because you're not actually feeling the pain you're bypassing it.
In this final episode of the Emotional Sobriety series, I draw a bright line between understanding your patterns and actually embodying change. Real healing doesn't happen in the head alone, and "high-vibe only" positivity isn't healing it's just another way to numb.
I share how I used spiritual concepts like armour, why "I'm feeling anger" invites space while "I am angry" collapses you into the emotion, and what changes when you stop thinking your way through feelings and actually drop into your body.
What is emotional sobriety? The capacity to feel the full range of emotions: anger, fear, grief, joy without numbing, avoiding, or being hijacked by them. It's self-regulation without codependency. It's choosing your response instead of reacting from your wounds.
I teach the first of three pillars Awareness and why awareness plus a pause equals presence. You'll hear Viktor Frankl's "space between stimulus and response" and how to widen that space so choice becomes possible in the moments that matter most.
The practice: A guided mindful check-in you can use anytime you feel overwhelmed. Three questions: What am I feeling? Where do I feel it in my body? What does it need from me?
The goal isn't perfection or never being triggered. It's freedom the freedom to feel without being destroyed by it, to be fully human without making it mean something's wrong with you.
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Series Recap And Intent
NATNAT BEHey, welcome back to the Lift One Self Podcast. I'm your host, Nat Nat, and this is our final episode of the Emotional Sobriety series. Thank you for staying with it. And if you're new here, don't worry. You don't need episode one or two to understand this one. It probably will prompt you to want to go listen to those other two episodes where we talked about coming home to our bodies, that we are feeling bodies that think and learning to live in that, not just thinking minds that occasionally feel. We established that our feelings and thoughts are information. They are not facts. They are not our identity. We befriended anger in the second episode. We discovered that anger is a bodyguard. And most of us never thought to ask, what are you protecting? We learned that we don't have anger issues. We have a relationship problem with anger. We've never been introduced properly. So today we're bringing it all together. We're talking about what emotional sobriety actually is, what it's not, and how to practice it without spiritually bypassing our way through life. Because here's what I've noticed in my life and in the people I work with. A lot of us think we're doing the work. We're meditating, we're journaling, we're saying affirmations, we understand our patterns, we can explain our trauma to our therapists, but we're still stuck, still repeating the same cycles, still feeling disconnected, exhausted, overwhelmed. And the reason is simple: knowing isn't the same as embodying. Understanding isn't the same as integration. We're bypassing. We're trying to think our way to healing. We're trying to think our emotions instead of feeling them. I catch myself doing this. I'll be in a conversation explaining a pattern I have, describing it perfectly, analyzing it, and my body will be like tap tap. Hey, are you actually feeling this? Or are you just performing insight again? And thankfully, I have the tools to interrupt what I'm doing and drop into my body. See, emotional sobriety is a way of living. This isn't a quick fix. This isn't follow these five steps and you'll have it all figured out. Emotional sobriety allows us to bring in context and the complexity of being human. This is not tell me what to do and I'll do it. This is let me feel what's true and choose from that place. Let me start by sharing what emotional sobriety is not, because there are so many misconceptions out there about healing that keep us stuck. Emotional sobriety is not always being calm, zen, or in your peace. It's not having it all figured out. It's not never getting triggered. It's not being so spiritually evolved that nothing bothers us anymore. And it's definitely not toxic positivity, pretending everything is a blessing when we're actually in pain. Notice if your chest just tightened when I explained all of this. That's information. See, I see this all the time in wellness communities, and I've done it myself. We wear our high vibe-only mentality like armor. We refuse to acknowledge anything difficult or painful because we think that makes us more evolved. We say things like, everything happens for a reason. It's all part of the divine plan. I'm just choosing to focus on gratitude. Yes, I get that. Gratitude and finding meaning in hardship is part of my work. I wrote a book called The Gift Wrapped in Sandpaper so we could understand that our difficulties contain knowledge. Yet the difference is recognizing when your mind just wants to jump straight to making meaning without being able to feel the pain. You're bypassing. You're not allowing yourself to feel that sandpaper so you can get to that gift. You're not acknowledging the roughness, the uncomfortableness, and also acknowledging that it doesn't have to define us. Feeling emotions does not mean that it's part of your identity. Because if we jump straight to everything's happens for a reason without actually feeling and processing what happened, we're not healing, we're avoiding. And then we call that resilience. We think it's called resilience, but wondering why do we always feel so harsh and so heavy? See, resilience means being able to feel your pain and not drowning in it. And many people are not feeling their pain, not able to process the fear surrounding the pain. So that's why the resilience feels so heavy, so daunting, and so challenging at times. What I had to face in my own work, I was numbing myself with spiritual concepts and stoicism, the same way you would numb with alcohol, work, or shopping. So I had to really allow myself to drop in further into my body, process those emotional charges and that pain that I was carrying. If your jaw just clenched or your shoulders went up by your ears, breathe. See, the body keeps the score. The nervous system knows we can't think our way out of what we need to feel our way through. Let me repeat that, okay? We cannot think our way out of what we need to feel our way through. You know, when people are talking about overcoming, I don't use that language. It's about integrating. You're not trying to get rid of anything from your experiences. You're wanting to take out the emotional charge that's attached to it. That's the work we're doing here. Not more understanding, it's about embodiment. So, what is emotional sobriety? It's the ability to feel our emotions, all of them, without numbing, avoiding, or being hijacked by them. It's being able to say, I'm feeling angry without exploding or shutting down. It's being able to say, I'm feeling sad without spiraling into depression or making it mean something's wrong with us. It's being able to say, I'm feeling overwhelmed and stepping away. It's also being able to say I'm feeling scared without letting fear run our lives, to begin joining with fear and using its power to propel us. It's the capacity to be with what is, not what we wish it was or what we think it should be. Remember from episode one, our feelings, our thoughts are information. They're not facts, they are not our identity. So when we're feeling rage, we have to remind ourselves we're not rage. When we're feeling fear, we're not fear. We're experiencing these emotions. We're experiencing these emotions. We're the observer, the witness, the one who can choose how to respond. That distinction, that's everything. Because when we collapse our identity into our emotions, we become them. We say I'm angry instead of I'm feeling angry. I still catch myself doing this at times. I'll be activated and I'll say, I'm so anxious instead of I'm feeling anxiety. And my body responds differently to those two statements. One collapses me into it, the other gives me space to work with it. Try it with yourself right now. Try these statements. Say out loud to yourself, I'm so anxious. And then say, I'm feeling anxiety. See how your body responds with those statements. Emotional sobriety is learning to self-regulate, to self-soothe ourselves. Instead of constantly looking outside of ourselves for someone or something to make us feel okay, to feel safe. Here's the key part. Emotional sobriety doesn't mean we never need support. Co-regulation is essential. We're wired for connection. We're wired for human touch. We need each other. But we're not dependent on other people to regulate us all the time. It's about removing that codependency. We're not supposed to constantly be handing our nervous system over to someone else and saying, here, you fix this. It's learning how to come back to ourselves, to choose ourselves, to come from a place of regulation where we can actually connect with others in a healthy way. That's what we're building here. Now, in my emotional sobriety workshop, I teach about three pillars that make up this practice. And I want to be clear: these pillars aren't something we master once, they're practices. We're going to be working with these for the rest of our lives. The first pillar is awareness. We have to be willing to notice what's happening in our bodies and nervous system in real time. Awareness means being able to catch ourselves when we've been activated, when the nervous system has come online to protect and defend, that we can actually acknowledge, oh, wait, let me take a pause right now. Because awareness with a pause equals presence. So check in right now. Where are your shoulders? Is your jaw tight? Is your tongue at the roof of your mouth? Are you holding your breath? Most of us skipped this step. I know I did for years, and I still have to remind myself sometimes. That's why meditation was so impactful for me. Because when I sat on that couch while the twins were playing in all that noise, ruckus, and chaos, I continuously came back to the breath and regulated my nervous system, being able to face those ingrained patterns in my nervous system. See, we go straight from stimulus to reaction a lot of the times. Something happens and we're immediately hijacked, yelling, shutting down, people pleasing, disassociating. And sometimes it's needed because it's too overwhelming in our system. Our bodies are doing exactly what it's programmed to do, protect. Yet with awareness, we can be aware that we're doing this and call ourselves back, signal ourselves back into that safety, into being able to feel and process. When we have awareness, we create a gap, a pause, a moment where we can choose how we respond instead of just reacting from our wounds. Victor Frankel wrote about this in his book, Man's Search for Meaning. And I think this should be a book in all high schools as a mandatory read because he used his own lived experience in those concentration camps and was able to give verbiage. And one of his very famous statements that sticks very profoundly and that helped with his logo theory is between a stimulus and our response, there is a space where we have the freedom to choose. That space can be half a second, a single breath. The moment we notice our chest tightening before we yell at our children, the instance we feel our throat closing before we say, I'm fine, when we're not. Even Rumi said something similar. Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. And at first, we'll miss it. I still miss it sometimes. We'll blow right past it a thousand times, but then one day you'll catch it. You'll feel yourself about to react and you'll pause. And everything changes because there's a flood of new information that comes up and your perception shifts a little bit more. See, here's what nobody told me when I started this work. Building awareness is uncomfortable because once we start noticing, we can't unnotice. We can't pretend we don't know what's happening in our bodies anymore. The famous saying, once you see, you can't unsee. That's why so many of us resist this work. It's easier to stay numb because awareness demands something from us. It demands that we show up, that we have accountability, that we take responsibility, that we stop abandoning ourselves. But on the other side of that discomfort is freedom, real freedom that comes from knowing ourselves, trusting ourselves, being able to regulate ourselves, the freedom and confidence of being us authentically, no matter what is being projected from the outside, that's absolute freedom. I'm sure somebody popped in your mind that you admire that they have so much confidence just being themselves and not being stuck in the confines of what society dictates is okay. Okay, pause. I'm gonna stop here because here's what I need you to understand. What I just gave you, that's just concept. That's just one pillar. In the emotional sobriety workshop, we go deep in all three pillars: awareness, capacity, and integration. We practice the technique. We work with specific patterns, we build our capacity to hold more in our nervous system without collapsing or exploding. This episode gave you the map, but you need a guide to walk the terrain. That's what I do. The workshop gives you the full framework, the somatic practice, the tools to integrate this work into your daily life. This is where we go deeper together. This is where we practice the techniques that move this from concept to embodiment. And if you want to work with me one-on-one to go deeper on your specific patterns and blocks, you can book a clarity call at liftoneself.com. L-I-F-T-O-N-E-S-E-L-F dot C O M. Because here's the truth. You can keep listening to podcasts, reading books, understanding your patterns, or you can actually feel them, process them, integrate them, and start living differently. This work changed my life. It changed my clients' lives, and it can change yours. All right, let's practice together. I want to give a practice that you can use anytime you're feeling activated, overwhelmed, or disconnected from yourself. I title these things as mindful moments, yet they're check-ins and they're different specific practices. And I'm going to do this with you. So I'm going to ask you to get comfortable wherever you are. If it's safe to do so, you're going to gently close your eyes or soften your gaze. Now we're going to take some breaths and you're going to breathe in through your nose and you're going to exhale through your mouth. Let's begin. Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it. Gently release. Another deep breath in. Hold it. Now let it go. One more deep breath in. Hold it. Now let that shit go. Now coming back to a normal breathing pattern and bringing your awareness to watching your breath. If you can, simply breathe in and out through your nose. And just bring in that awareness to watching your breath. You're safe to feel. You're safe to let go. Surrender the need to control. Release the need to resist and just be. Now I'm gonna ask you three questions. And I want you to just notice what comes up. Don't judge it. Don't try to fix it. Just notice. Question one. What am I feeling right now? Not what you're thinking, not what you think you should be feeling. What you're actually feeling. Maybe it's some anger. Maybe some sadness. Maybe fear. Maybe numbness. Maybe a mixture of things. Or maybe you just don't know yet. And that's okay. Just notice. Remember, our feelings and thoughts are information. But they are not facts. They are not your identity. Question two. Where am I feeling it in my body? Bring your awareness down into your body. Is there tightness in your chest? Tension in your shoulders. Heaviness in your legs. Just notice. No need to change it. Just be with it. This is awareness. This is the first pillar. We're practicing it right now. Question three. What does this feeling need from me right now? Not what it needs from someone else. What does it need from you? Does it need you to breathe? Does it need you to move? Does it need you to cry? Does it need you to speak? Does it need you to just be still and hold yourself? Listen. Your body knows. Now take your right hand and place it on your heart. Take your left hand and place it on your belly. And just hold yourself for a moment. I'm doing this with you right now. We're safe. We're allowed to feel. We don't have to fix this. We don't have to make it go away. We don't have to make sense of it. We just have to be here. This is co-regulation. We're learning to be calm, presence for ourselves. Take another deep breath in. Hold it. Exhale out of your mouth. Take another deep breath in. Hold it. And gently release. Now, while still holding yourself, say this out loud or in your mind. I'm learning. I'm practicing. I'm allowed to be messy. I'm allowed to be human. There's freedom in being me. One more deep breath in. And out. When you're ready, at your own time and at your own pace, you're gonna gently open your eyes and stay with your breath. That's the practice. That's how we check in with ourselves. That's how we build emotional sobriety. One moment, one breath, one choice at a time. This so here's what I want you to sit with. This work, emotional sobriety, it's not something you achieve once and then you're done. It's a practice, a daily moment-to-moment practice of coming back to yourself. And what I've learned, both in my own life and the people I work with, is that this practice gets easier. Not because life stops activating you, but because you recognize it faster, you come back quicker, you trust yourself more. That's what's possible. Not perfection, not never being triggered, but freedom. The freedom to feel what you're feeling without being destroyed by it. The freedom to choose your response instead of reacting from your wounds. The freedom to be human without making it mean something's wrong with you. That's what we're building here. And if you recognize yourself in this episode, if something in your body said, Yes, that's me, you need to do something about it. Not think about it, not journal about it. Actually do something. Because your pattern isn't going to change by listening to more podcasts. You know that. Your body knows that. The Emotional Sobriety Workshop is where we practice this together, where I teach you the other two pillars, capacity and integration, where you learn the somatic techniques to actually embody this work. Or, as I said, the one-on-one support. All of these things are found at liftoneself.com.com. This isn't the end of the conversation. It's just the beginning. Thank you for being here. Thank you for doing this work with me. Thank you for choosing yourself. Please remember to be kind and gentle with yourself. You matter. And you're not doing this perfectly. You're doing it real. Until the next episode.