Don't Make It Weird
Two amateur authors and amateur humans—Daniel and Dina—discuss all things writing and books, and re-tell chaotic life adventures from cults to exes that think they’re horses. We’ve got you covered in this comedic and sarcastic, life-centered podcast. Follow us as we fail to not make it weird.
Don't Make It Weird
The One With The Flibbertigibbets
Ever found yourself in the aftermath of a shower, faced with a toilet disaster that has you contemplating life choices? Yeah, us too—and we're spilling it all in this episode! Join Daniel and Dinasaurus, along with our quick-witted Producer Sean, as we navigate through the murky waters of bathroom blunders with a side of Sunny D Vodka Seltzers. Prepare to cringe and chuckle as we share stories that are just too outrageous to keep to ourselves.
Bathroom humor aside, we're taking the plunge into the untold tales behind Disney classics, offering a fresh and comical take on 'The Little Mermaid' and the myths surrounding sex education in animation. Dina's Tiktok Conspiracy Corner might just have you questioning reality—or at least, the reality of social media. Plus, we're giving some much-deserved shoutouts to our community, so don't miss out on your chance to be part of the weird and wonderful banter!
Wrapping up with a game of 'Weird Definitions,’ where we try our hand at guessing the meanings of the most bizarre words we can find—let's just say, our vocabulary may never be the same again. And as if that wasn't enough, we're ending with a spirited debate over the proper measurement of shots, because let's face it, size does matter—when it comes to your drinks, that is. So, grab a beverage (measured correctly, please) and settle in for an episode full of unexpected twists, gut-busting laughter, and a bit of learning on the side. Cheers, weirdos!
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Speaker 1:It Weird podcast with your hosts Daniel and Dina Soros.
Speaker 2:Finally, the dink has come back to the Don't Make it Weird podcast. Welcome to the only writing storytelling comedy podcast for the writing community by the writing community. I'm one of your podcast hosts, dan Quigley, and I'm joined as always by the heated hedonist whose hateful heresies herald hair harm herself Dina Soros.
Speaker 3:Man that was so good.
Speaker 4:You used hedonism before, haven't?
Speaker 2:you. I bet it felt right, Dina. Sometimes it has to feel right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I want to know something here if I'm alone or not.
Speaker 5:You guys ever like sitting on the toilet.
Speaker 4:Obviously since you're a guy, you would be taking a shit.
Speaker 2:I assume I'd say that allegedly 40% of my day spent on the toilet, sean. Would that be accurate?
Speaker 1:I don't track your day, so I don't have a fucking idea.
Speaker 4:Anyway, you ever sit in there and you sit up too far and you've touched the back of the toilet lid and then you immediately need to go shower.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think this is something that I've experienced. My posture is not that good.
Speaker 1:I'm usually hunched over my phone on the toilet.
Speaker 4:I mean yeah, but then you ever make the mistake. I'm like ugh.
Speaker 2:No, dude, I'm like a little poop goblin, I'm just like over there. No, no, I have not done this. Has this happened to you recently, dina?
Speaker 4:Is this something that you should be?
Speaker 2:Oh, did you immediately shower.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Now I will go in another direction. You want to know what the worst feeling in the world is. The fucking worst, okay.
Speaker 5:Probably sex with you.
Speaker 4:Wow that was good.
Speaker 2:All right, great show everyone.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go to the burn ward.
Speaker 2:I'm done. I just got fucking wrecked right there, shout out my wife. I'm so sorry that you have to sleep with me, but, dina, have you ever had the irresistible Okay, that's fair have you ever had the irresistible need to poop mid-shower and then you have to do the awkward, get out of the shower, sit down on the toilet seat while your body is fucking wet and it is uncomfortably moist and humid, and it's the worst experience that one can have.
Speaker 4:As a child that couldn't control her own body, bladder, stomach.
Speaker 5:Just might be on the wall.
Speaker 2:Okay, what about if you've been at the pool and you have to go out and just pee?
Speaker 4:Oh, that's the yeah. That is awful, Especially if you're wearing a one-piece, imagine.
Speaker 2:That's rough. Yeah, I wear one-pieces a lot, sean. What do you feel about that buddy?
Speaker 1:I think what's worse than that is when you just took an amazing shower and you feel so clean, so refreshed, and you just have dried off or are drying off and then you have to take a shit because it erases that clean feeling. Now you're back to being a disgusting pig again, if I shower in the morning, which I often do, and then I have to take a shit shortly thereafter. It kind of sets a bad precedent for the rest of the day.
Speaker 5:It kind of ruins my day.
Speaker 1:I'll be honest.
Speaker 2:Well, you guys, you want to know what ruins my day. It's when I don't get a chance to introduce the third member of our team, because we have another member and he's already been talking here a little bit and you guys love him almost as much as you love me. And you know what guys More. More honestly, I fell in love with a Sean. I made him live her once and he lost it completely. He's in love with Kalei and sometimes a barking seal can be so misleading. He turns and says are you all right? I said I must be fine because Clippy's still beaten. Come and record with me on Riverside. Dina said it's fine, she don't consider it cheating. Producer Sean everyone.
Speaker 1:Is there a reason you chose that song today, bud?
Speaker 2:You know, sean, it's because we need to do a deep dive into you, buddy, we need to get to know you a little bit more. We've heard a lot of stories by Dina, a lot of stories by me and, for the folks, if you guys stick around and listen, I think we have a very special story time this week. Who's going to be our story time teller? Dina?
Speaker 4:Oh me, it's going to be Sean Sean is already ready to answer that question.
Speaker 1:It's story time with producer Sean today and we'll tease that a little bit, but first you have to do the button for yourself.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:It's story time with producer Sean today. It's a very popular show by popular demand, aka our new fan, Levi, who Levi demanded a story time with producer Sean, so we're going to do that today and I'll tease that in a moment. But first let's talk about our drinking games. We observe Buffalo on this show, which means we drink with our off hands.
Speaker 2:We are devout.
Speaker 1:Buffaloites, we are all right-handed, which means we all drink with our left hand on the show and out in the world, and if we get caught by someone else drinking with our right hands, we have to finish our drink right then, and there Also, we have a series of words and phrases that trigger a buzzer, just like this. That means it's time to drink, and this week we're introducing a new segment where we all try the same weird drink together. And, guys, this week we discovered Sunny D Vodka Seltzer. Kelly sent me a picture of this while she was shopping one day and I was immediately intrigued and I thought you know what? Let's try it together. So we all picked up a pack of these Sunny D Vodka Seltzers and we're all going to give it a try right now. Kelly's got one too Up to camera.
Speaker 2:Before we do that, I'm going to be drinking a little extra today in punishment, because I missed a last episode and I've been told that I've been a little bit of a buzzkill. I haven't been partying as hard, so today we're going to be starting out with Spicy Pickle Vodka and I'm going to be hating life while the rest of them are enjoying a nice evening.
Speaker 1:Dude, that actually sounds really good to me. Have you ever?
Speaker 2:had a pickle back. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4:That's what I immediately thought of, but it's vodka not.
Speaker 1:You guys, you can't open the miniature bottle.
Speaker 2:I figured it out. It smells very pickle-esque. It has a strong waft of pickle.
Speaker 4:When do we get to try our drink?
Speaker 1:Daniel's going to do his shot really quick because he has to step on people's toes.
Speaker 2:Listen. The audience likes to edge. Dina, we're edgy right now.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, just drink your drink.
Speaker 1:I want a sip Choke on the pickle buddy. Sing pickle please. All right, so much. I'm actually kind of disappointed. This is clear. I was hoping it'd be orange, but it's not good, buddy Guys let's chase it with some Sunny. D so hot.
Speaker 4:I'm a little scared.
Speaker 1:I still taste hot pickle. Holy crap, it tastes just like Sunny D. I want to enjoy it. It's carbonated Sunny D.
Speaker 4:It's got a little bit of an aftertaste though.
Speaker 1:I mean, all these hard seltzers do it's like that same lingering thing. All right, it was so hot. I don't know if I'd ever buy this again, but I don't hate it. I should have said it first. No, you don't sip it, buddy, it's a shot.
Speaker 2:No, I know I'm saying I should have said Sunny D first. Right now I don't have an opinion.
Speaker 1:Do you need 10 minutes? Yeah, just a little hug.
Speaker 2:Sean, can you just go ahead and pop that shirt off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure thing, buddy. So Daniel asked for some time to talk about his shower thoughts, and imagine you can hear shower sounds right now, because I'm going to add them in post. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:So, guys, I want to give you guys a very rare opportunity. I want you guys to come behind the scenes Nothing. Hop in the shower to meet. Hop in the shower with me like your horse girl. And I have a horrifying thought. Do you want to just shit in the shower like a horse would oh please Do horses shit in the shower.
Speaker 4:No, but they just like kind of free ball there.
Speaker 1:That's three, that's three.
Speaker 2:This sunny D is amazing. After that pickle shot, dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:The trick to make this good is to drink something awful beforehand.
Speaker 2:That is the key here. So, all right, I've got a daughter and a son and they're both very young, and my daughter have you ever noticed that he, just like very often forgets about baby laser? I do forget about laser all the time.
Speaker 1:He did take a beat there and add, and a son like I had my other day that he has a son.
Speaker 2:I love him. Fuck you guys. My daughters are adorable.
Speaker 1:She tried being a part of their lives sometimes. Anyway, go on.
Speaker 2:So I've been watching over the last like five plus years. I've been watching a lot of Disney specifically.
Speaker 2:God the bluey, amazing and the worst thing that's ever happened. Television, but I was watching a little mermaid. And then I was watching a little mermaid too and I had the horrifying thought of, for a lot of reasons how horrifying is the post wedding coitus between the little mermaid in Prince Eric? Because I want you guys to think about this for a second. The little mermaid is from a fish culture. All of her sisters are basically the same age, so that's like a clutch of eggs.
Speaker 2:This isn't like a mammalian bird here. This was fish style bird and that is all she's known of sex. She's never had a vagina. She does not know how mammals make point point. And now, on her first like week into having a life no one's in the castle talk about. Her husband doesn't know. She's like a wedding night. This is going to happen and this is a king and queen thing, so consummating the marriage has to happen immediately, immediately, and she has to be getting pregnant immediately because, you know it, mermaid too, she's got kids. That had to be trauma that she can't unlive. Like what the fuck did she think the first night she's like, oh man, what a great wedding, I'm ready to go to sleep. And he's like hey, so listen, I'm going to put my dangling appendage inside of you and she's like what the fuck Like? This is a fucked up thing. This is a horror movie stuff, guys.
Speaker 1:Just so we're clear while you're watching Disney movies with your children, you're thinking about the characters having sex with each other?
Speaker 4:Yes, I mean, ok, I'm going to defend him on this one, because, like, who doesn't?
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4:What Snow White?
Speaker 2:was 14, bro, yeah, ok different time, different culture, because Ariel's like 16.
Speaker 4:This is horrifying. How are you not like yes?
Speaker 2:They're all inexperienced children and she doesn't understand anatomy or basic biology.
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel like it would be no different from any other girl becoming a woman.
Speaker 2:No, because at least fucking Belle, she's read books, she's a smart person, she knows what she's getting into post marriage.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I too learned about sex from books.
Speaker 1:I bet those, those sex ed books in the in the little, the little French town where she lived was super accurate for the time OK, but at least there's conversations.
Speaker 2:There's going to be OK but hold on.
Speaker 4:Here's the thing. Here's the thing, daniel. I feel like this is cut. I feel like this is a poor reflection on you, because first of all, first, of, all sex doesn't have to hurt the first time. What, what? Who's to say she had a bad first time Like? Who's to say that Eric is stingy? I want.
Speaker 2:OK, I want you to think that you got put into an alien culture. You just got fucking kidnapped by aliens. They have a completely different biology than you. You have no idea how any of their sexual relations work. She doesn't know. What a fucking. She's going to teach me? You just got picked up by an alien and now they're sticking a fucking probe in your eyeball, going yeah, baby, about to make you pregnant. What the fuck would your reaction be?
Speaker 4:It would depend on if they're making their finger to your eye. You've heard of eyeball licking.
Speaker 2:Making our babies.
Speaker 1:All right, well, sound off in the comments. What do you think about this shower thought from Daniel and what do you think Ariel felt like in that moment?
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it's horror movie, shit, guys. But anyways, well, digress, I digress. We'll hop out of the shower here, guys, because it's time to get to the segment that we are all truly prepared for, the one that that really gets the people going.
Speaker 4:So I want you to do the one second pitch.
Speaker 1:No, no, no she's skipping right to the end.
Speaker 2:I've been waiting for this moment for too long, dina. All right. So so much, guys, to dim the lights, put on some good moon music and tuck in with a nice, very cozy blanket, because it is time for Dina's tick tock conspiracy corner.
Speaker 5:Yeah so here's the thing already.
Speaker 4:Well, no, I had a speech prepared because I am so fucking deep. I'm so fucking deep on conspiracy tick, tock that I don't know what's real anymore. I am an intelligent person, despite what's drunk. Don't make it weird, presents or allows me to present myself as anyone's great College like 12. I'm intelligent. I know what's real and what's not. I know science. I don't know. I don't know if the earth is round.
Speaker 4:There is a lot of science and science and I see why people believe it anyway. And I'm on a luminati tick tock. Y'all don't even know that shit's fucking wild. And the thing with the thing that this is how they got me A luminati tick tock 100 percent believe it. I believe every fucking thing that I see there, because I've I can't say how, but I've been involved in situations where I'm like illuminati real, yep, absolutely no. So what? Sean?
Speaker 1:I didn't think that was a question. Yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 4:So, like Illuminati, tick tock, absolutely there, believe everything that I'm saying. But then that's how they got me, because I'm like wait if this is true, Maybe the earth is flat and I hate that. I'm saying that.
Speaker 2:Dina, you float on point.
Speaker 4:It's, but see the. Okay, here's the latest thing that got me? Was that the firmament?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:The firmament, but it's genitalia, okay. So something about water and how it reflects it always curves. So if we're, if we're, like you see something flat, the water is always there. It's always going to curve to reflect against the flat surface. So if the earth is round, we don't have rainbows.
Speaker 2:That doesn't hold up the signs, because rainbows are light spectrums, right.
Speaker 4:But I don't remember what the actual tick tock said, but it made sense based on the light spectrum and how the water bends. So anyway, okay. So Sean, sean quick question.
Speaker 2:So, Sean, if Dina ends up being like the old lady that walks remember in Belmont we had that old lady that would just walk around pushing a shopping cart with no pants on, Like all?
Speaker 1:the time. Yeah, Just just a long white t-shirt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if Dina becomes her, is it our fault for pushing the segment?
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:No, it's tick tock's fault, it's social media's fault. Okay, all right, so we blame China.
Speaker 4:I got my. I got my conspiracy, though Mandela effect is just used by the government to see who notices what, to see who they can control.
Speaker 2:So the government is purposely creating these Mandela effects. The burn scene bears is is was the burn scene bears, not the burnstein bears? And the government is just trying to. Yeah, the, the government is just trying to.
Speaker 4:And fruit of the loom did have a chronocopia logo.
Speaker 1:Wait, it doesn't. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:No, no, it has the fucking fruit on the underwear, cornucopia.
Speaker 4:But not a cornucopia. But you've seen the cornucopia before right.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know, I've seen it.
Speaker 4:Same.
Speaker 2:Fucking flat earth. Flat earth is real Okay.
Speaker 4:This is what I'm saying. This is how they got me.
Speaker 2:This is this is a moment. This is how they got us, dina. This is how they got us. Yeah, I'm going to ride off this clip with you, buddy, shout out.
Speaker 4:If Daniel's going down this road, I know I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:But you want to know what's never wrong, dina, your mom, because that's true, no, lies detected.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, yeah, no, my mom, yeah, that checks, that's the checks.
Speaker 2:So, Dina, it's time for a segment that in no way we stole from we have Issues or anyone else. This is a completely original segment and you guys should definitely not check out Stevie and Anthony at we have Issues podcast and check out their incredible comic death list and our supposed super role play.
Speaker 1:Did you say not?
Speaker 2:check out? Yeah, don't, because then they will never know that there is any other segment that we could have possibly stolen this thing from Allegedly yeah, allegedly, allegedly. So this is where we got to check in with our writing and whatever creative projects that we're on and share the world. We've been months off, so we have to have had some accountability at buddying Dina Skip.
Speaker 5:Oh no, reverse. That's not how this works, that's not how this works.
Speaker 2:Dina.
Speaker 4:I haven't written because I don't know what I'm doing for book three. Book two is in line. Edits on the second round I have another, a new editor I hear she's doing great and I don't know what to do for book three.
Speaker 2:So I mean you've taken a pretty hard left turn from coming of age teen romance with a little bit of magic to now magic is going to be a fucking thing and shit's going to get fucked up Like are you going to go full on dragons?
Speaker 1:Actually I'll take this one. I'm actually working on Dina's book three. That's what I've been working on.
Speaker 5:It's called Everything Special.
Speaker 4:And it's really it is, but okay.
Speaker 1:Told you I'm working on it. It really fleshed it out. Yeah, that's what I've been working on.
Speaker 2:I'm proud of you, Sean. No, no, I'm definitely proud of you. How is your Madden franchise going, buddy? Are you doing well?
Speaker 1:No, no, not at all.
Speaker 2:Who's your?
Speaker 4:Oh, I bet on Sportsball. Oh, yes, that's right. And did you know?
Speaker 1:Shout out to Troy Lyons Wait, I thought you took the lines Defend the roar.
Speaker 4:That was my second because I lost the first one, so I was like so was a watch. Yeah, I don't see it. That's a win.
Speaker 1:Well, I still ask money, but yeah.
Speaker 4:But you won some money back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, see, it's like the same thing, it's no problem, no problem, perfect. Yeah, I finally sent off my book two as well, waiting to see if Lost Boys Press wants it or if they're like you know what one was enough from you, like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, you know what one was enough from you, big guy. So we'll see what happens there. But, excited about it, and you know, if they pick a book two, that means I actually have to, like write book three. So, deena, maybe you can write my book three and I'll write your book three. What do you think?
Speaker 4:I'll take that.
Speaker 1:Okay, perfect, I'm right here, but that's okay.
Speaker 4:We have a voicemail. Do we have a voicemail?
Speaker 3:Hey, I'm out here in perfection just taming a couple horses and and that girl, who the hell are you talking to? Now this is gonna make a weird blackass. It's who we've been listening to, you know, with the truck, when I was eating the Balodian beans with the cilantro. It's gonna be one of those days, I don't know how you're doing that.
Speaker 3:You really think they're gonna play that message on there? Amit Valentine, I don't care. I need to tell them my opinion on feet. You know I had the massage valve feet the other day. They were kind of yellow. Don't you tell them how yellow my feet are? I won't come over there. I'm gonna make you feel this. Alright, as listening said. Damn it already. Alright, so listen. Anyway, Sean, Daniel, Dina, Matt and I, we've been listening to your show. Quite like it a lot, didn't we? I don't know if I like it. You know I tolerate you listening to it.
Speaker 1:Damn it Valentine. How?
Speaker 3:many times do I gotta tell you? And when I'm calling somebody on the phone, you are not supposed to interrupt in me. I don't care, I won't do my damn. Yeah, we've got to be a dumbass. Oh anyway, daniel, sean, dina, I just want to let you know that you're three of the most beautiful people in all podcasting lands.
Speaker 5:I know what you're doing.
Speaker 3:Hey, hey, hey. Don't do that for Parabas. You know how I like Anthony and Stephen. You know they're a lot better and I feel that they you know they have the accountability buddy section. It's a hell of a lot longer than. Don't Make it.
Speaker 2:With you? Allegedly it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:This is an awkwardness of this relationship and you're going to allow them to do both. Okay, all right, whatever, finish phone call. So, um, yeah, we just wanted to tell you both all the way from out here in perfection Good luck and keep it all on the show.
Speaker 1:God, I'm calling from perfection. That's a Trevor's reference. I think that was our friend Levi they have been watching or listening to like our entire catalog from the beginning.
Speaker 2:And uh, yeah, levi, thank you for calling.
Speaker 1:Um, that was very interesting, and I've already almost finished my whole first sunny D vodka, so thanks to you. Yeah, I was planning on pacing myself a little bit, but Levi wanted to see us get drunk today, so leave.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you, buddy Big. Shout out because you're a great person. I wanted to see us get drunk today, so leave. I appreciate you, buddy Big. Shout out to tremors.
Speaker 1:Yeah, check out the talking tremors podcast on YouTube, that's.
Speaker 2:Levi's show. Levi, all right, this is a good time. I'm so excited. So so now, guys, daniel, if you want to be like Levi, if you want to, there it is, have your beautiful voice. Grace our airways, airwaves, airwaves.
Speaker 1:Your airway is the thing you breathe through. Okay.
Speaker 4:Got it.
Speaker 2:Thanks a lot for.
Speaker 4:Daniel.
Speaker 2:You guys can go and leave us voicemail at 347 69. Weird, that's 347 699 34. And we'd love to hear from you guys. It'd be a lot of fun. We miss you. We miss all your voices, your central voices. So, guys, sean, would you, would you say the charities?
Speaker 1:When I need to be yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh, can you guys see the pickle now? Oh, here we go.
Speaker 2:Can we see Weird when I?
Speaker 4:was two. Handed that yeah.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you got to use two hands.
Speaker 2:Something no one's ever said to me before.
Speaker 5:Oh buddy.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get it with my strong hand. You know what the fuck was that, Sean? I need you to go and clip that. I remember that.
Speaker 4:Okay, remember, I lost my voice and I'm still recovering from that. So that's, that's my laugh right now.
Speaker 5:That was like an alien, like I can't wait to make her laugh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just going to head it, sean, can you just? We're going to put this right here so we can just have this added, and can you just play that again for me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's just beautiful, it's just majestic. I hope that this gets added to the sound board. I think that this is a beautiful, beautiful Yep. Sorry.
Speaker 4:It wasn't a winner Like you thought it was.
Speaker 2:I think it's a winner and I think when the folks hear it again, like right now, they're going to agree with me that this sound is amazing. Might be my new ringtone, but anyway. So, sean, could you, could you give your friends a little thumb right up the rear end, a little crikey, and I saw a hilarious video.
Speaker 4:No, I'm sorry I won't side rail us again. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm going to sneak up behind him and stick my finger in his bum. Crikey, that's a good one. I'm going to stick my head up there and take a look around.
Speaker 2:He's going to be on his little.
Speaker 1:I was asked to do story time this week and I chose a theme. So the theme of my choose your adventure was times that I got to meet a celebrity, and the winning story is called let's shake hands. So that's the story that I will tell a little bit later. Can't wait, can't wait.
Speaker 4:But before that the devil Sorry.
Speaker 2:But before we do that, sean, I think we got a little game that we're going to play today, buddy yeah we're going to play a new game called weird definitions.
Speaker 1:You know one of the two, world association, of course, but I can't do that every time, so in this game, I'm going to mention a word that Daniel and Dina probably don't know the definition of. In fact, I would venture to guess that most people don't know the definition of these words, and they're going to go you know what that.
Speaker 2:I know the definition of that. Bear well aware, sorry.
Speaker 1:If I cut in and out, it's because I have a horrible cough and I'm trying to mute it when it happens. So just just bear with me here. Daniel and Dina will each make up a definition for the word and then I'll reveal the actual definition. I will award points However I see fit. It doesn't matter, they don't count for anything.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 1:So let's get started, let's go. The first word is Petricor, petricor. Fuck, I've heard this word. This is not my first time hearing the word.
Speaker 2:As far as the definition this, okay, let me let me make this clear. Let me make this clear.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to act like. You know what it means, like a perfect let's. Let's really sell it. Okay, okay, I got.
Speaker 4:I know what it means Producer Sean.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, dina, can I go first?
Speaker 4:No, I was going to go first. It's talking about the petrified center of tree, like one of the petrified trees, or whatever they're called. Do they have an actual name for petrified trees? Anyway, that's the core for.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's called a petrified tree.
Speaker 4:It's the center for petrified trees. So, dina, this is.
Speaker 2:You're close. You're close on this, but let me a man help you with the definition.
Speaker 4:Okay, I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 2:It is the mummified remains of a Pharaoh's penis, so it is the core of the man. So when they, you know, kind of get into the pyramids and they're looking at the burial chambers, the petrachore is often one of the most sought out elements of the antiquity process.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. That's so close, except not a petrachore refers to the pleasant earthy smell after a rain. Petrachore.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so the core of a rainforest is what I was talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4:Dina got, dina gets 300 points for that one.
Speaker 1:Let's go on to the next one.
Speaker 2:Okay, hold on. So the whole fucking thing that I do in my book, where whenever it's a flashback and there's the whole scene of she smells like the forest, after the I could just said petrachore the whole time. Yep, no.
Speaker 1:Petrachore is is referenced to the smell.
Speaker 4:Can you spell it for me?
Speaker 2:P E T R I C O R E.
Speaker 1:So close. P E T R I C H O R. What the fuck is there an H in there. Core I don't know why does your name have an X in it? All right, the next word is Newdiesterchen. Excuse you, sir Newdiesterchen.
Speaker 4:Could you use it in a sentence?
Speaker 1:I believe that that would give away the definition of the word.
Speaker 4:I don't think it would. I think you should use it in a sentence, I think.
Speaker 1:I think that if we were doing a spelling bee, then I would use it in a sentence Can?
Speaker 2:you just say it one more time.
Speaker 1:I think you guys are experts, and Daniel will tell us what the definition of Newdiesterchen is.
Speaker 2:So Newdiesterchen is that? One time I got this girl, esther, naked and we kind of did it on an airplane and so it's a Newdiesterchen, sorry.
Speaker 1:Let me make sure I get the pronunciation correct. Yeah, newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen. So it's a D, newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen, and is it Nancy? Newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen.
Speaker 2:But, we're going to snake it studying.
Speaker 4:That's talking about the pole, that keeps the earth in place. No, it's talking about the pole that keeps the earth in place because you know it's flat.
Speaker 1:So, it's just sitting on it like a lollipop. Yeah, there's literally just a stick.
Speaker 2:It's just one time stick. Keep it affirmative. It's a literal pole. It's a literal pole Estrogen.
Speaker 1:It's the Newdiestrogen. Newdiesterchen refers to the day before yesterday, newdiesterchen.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't. Is the what? Yeah, it's the day before yesterday.
Speaker 1:It's the day before yesterday Newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen. Yeah, the day before yesterday, alright.
Speaker 5:I can push it.
Speaker 1:That's another 752 points for Dina. She's in the lead. She did great Alright. The next word is Winkle Picker, Winkle Picker.
Speaker 4:Shut up, Sean. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. What's?
Speaker 1:wrong with?
Speaker 4:that Language of origin, please.
Speaker 1:Polish.
Speaker 2:You say it one more time for me, Sean Winkle picker.
Speaker 4:You say it in an Irish accent I don't do an Irish accent, british accent, so Winkle picker is what they use to shovel the gunk out of the bottom of a moose's A moose's knuckle.
Speaker 2:Moose's knuckle Mises mises His hoof, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a knuckle. Okay, moose's knuckle.
Speaker 5:His hoof, his hoof, yeah, his knuckle is off the Winkle picker.
Speaker 2:is it has to be penis involved? I'm sorry it's penis involved, it's not penis involved. It's fucking wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. That's when you're trying to get a little bit of the extra lint. You know how sometimes you get a little lint in your pants and then you see it kind of gets on you a little bit. You got to pick it off of your junk. So it's lint on your junk. Yeah, you have to pick off, yeah, you have to pick it up. I mean it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 4:Kind of underwear are you wearing? That's not normal. Both of you assume I'm wearing any underwear.
Speaker 1:There's nothing on his bottoms.
Speaker 4:Check it like the soft mesh sports kind.
Speaker 2:Mesh.
Speaker 4:It's not like mesh mesh, but the fabric is breathable.
Speaker 2:Okay, breathable fabric got you Got it.
Speaker 1:Winkle picker is the style of shoe or boot in the 1950s with a sharp and long pointed toe. Winkle picker.
Speaker 4:Yeah so that's the shoe that the moose wears. That's what I said.
Speaker 2:She did she did say it had something to do with the F word there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's going to keep the lead after that round, all right. The next word is a suegsang Suegswang, suegswang.
Speaker 2:Sean Stop.
Speaker 1:It's spelled Z U G, z W A N.
Speaker 4:G. Oh, it says suegswang, Obviously, oh yeah suegswang?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4:That's a Chinese top, you know, like the spinner tops.
Speaker 5:Obviously.
Speaker 1:Like a dream.
Speaker 2:Suegswang, suegswang, suegswang it was actually it's not actually a thing. It's a term that refers to the first song by Wang Chung. Before they did everybody Wang Chung. Tonight, they did everybody Jued Wang tonight. Suegswang, suegswang, suegswang, suegswang.
Speaker 4:It's like you're not even trying. I'm not going to lie here, I'm really disappointed.
Speaker 2:It's definitely music related, 100% music related.
Speaker 1:Suegswang is a situation in a game of chess where the obligation to make a move in one's turn is a serious, often decisive disadvantage.
Speaker 4:So I was right with the Chinese origin. Damn.
Speaker 5:What.
Speaker 4:What.
Speaker 1:Actually, I do want to find out the real origin of this word Hold please, it has to be like German man, it's copy German, it sounds German. Suegswang, that's when you're in If this is Chinese.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take my shot right now.
Speaker 1:I hope it's Chinese. No, it's, it's. It's a German origin. That's correct German origin.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm doing great. This is, this is going really well. I should have you know that like vocabulary is one of the like areas I tested really highly in school.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited for these words. I wasn't going to do all of them, but I'm having a good time so we're going to do. I'm here for it. Um, we're going to go with Gorgonize, gorgonize.
Speaker 4:Um, so do you know, what Gorgons are?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like your Oregon, but in Gorgon.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, like the engorge.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:Gorgons. Yeah yeah, it's like a gigantic Oregon.
Speaker 4:No, those are those um North Korean woogies. That, um, what was the word?
Speaker 1:Did you say woogies?
Speaker 2:Woogies, it's I would like. A definition of woogies is what I would like.
Speaker 1:That's it why don't you define woogies, Daniel?
Speaker 2:No a woogie. Yeah it is. Are you talking about a woogie?
Speaker 4:No with a G, no a woogie Sean.
Speaker 1:Sean Sean have you not done your research on?
Speaker 2:your drink when she finds out this isn't a word. Can you go Google this fast? We're turning into gambling, dina's gambling now, ever since she got her taste from football. Now, now we're putting. Now we're putting wagers on our game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so a woogie, um, a woogie can be an adorable creature, cat like an appearance, or hideous brick, bricky or like, or like and prickly.
Speaker 4:What.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Just for that you're not getting a publishing deal. Fine.
Speaker 2:I fucking deserve it. A woogie yeah.
Speaker 1:So glad Wogy.
Speaker 2:I'm Googling this. I don't trust Sean Sean, sean's on the take. The first thing that pops up is some Korean like uh, idol, I searched for woogie cryptid. Okay, okay, hold on, cause I just put woogie in and it's just all this Korean guy.
Speaker 1:A woogie encounter with the SAP. What about boogie woogie bugle lever on cryptid crew?
Speaker 2:Oh, a puck Woogie, a woogie, a woogie, yeah A buck woogie, no yeah.
Speaker 1:I've heard a woogie encounter. A woogie is what you get when, like an ant sneezes. It's like a booger, but it's made of wood. Fine.
Speaker 2:Fuck it, Anyway. What's going with that?
Speaker 4:What, what, what word are?
Speaker 1:we on.
Speaker 4:Gorgonize.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, so.
Speaker 4:Gorgon. You know what a Gorgon is? Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:Totally.
Speaker 4:I don't remember what I was going to say and it was really clever.
Speaker 2:I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1:Nailed it, Daniel. What does Gorgonize mean?
Speaker 2:So the Gorgon, like Medusa are, you know, kind of like the serpent haired people that turn individuals in the stone. So this has to be something related to, you know, turning a creak, like, like crafting something into stone. So we're going to Gorgonize it.
Speaker 1:Perfect. So Gorgonize means to have a paralyzing or mesmerizing effect on someone. So Dina gets a thousand points for that one, obviously.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you want to know what you want to know. What's funny is? My first thing is I was going to make a joke that Gorgonizing is when my wife gives me that look. That makes me like not move and I actually would have been right had I gone with my fucking around answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we want fake definitions with confidence. Okay, that's what we want. Okay, the next word is snally Goster. What?
Speaker 2:Harry Potter. Bullshit is this word.
Speaker 1:These are all real words.
Speaker 2:One more. What is this again?
Speaker 1:Snally Goster.
Speaker 4:What's its country of origin? Well, a snally is, that's the, that's the boot end of the trolley. No, and then a Goster is a ghost. X so X. So it's the origin of Pennsylvania, german.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's like like running a train on a ghost Nice.
Speaker 1:Pennsylvania. German is the word ghost train.
Speaker 4:Do you know what?
Speaker 2:a ghost train is yeah, when you run a train on the go it's just like a woogie.
Speaker 1:Daniel snally Goster.
Speaker 2:Snally Goster is when you're Amish and you have finished raising a barn for the first time and then you get completely black out drunk with your Amish homies and it's called the snally Goster. Like that's the party.
Speaker 4:Can the Amish drink?
Speaker 2:Only during culture is drinking.
Speaker 1:No, the Amish don't drink or do drugs or anything and let until they go on there. What the fuck is it called? There's a ritual in the sabbatical Amish, in Amish tradition where, like the teenagers who are becoming adults get to leave their community and go experience like regular everyday life and usually go on a bender drugs and alcohol and sex and all that shit. I watched a documentary on it years ago.
Speaker 2:Sound off in the comments. Tell me what it's called.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to fucking look it up right now, because I want you to tell me what that is. And then they have to decide at the end of it if they want to go back to their Amish community.
Speaker 2:It was like breaking free or something. Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 5:Anyway so sorry. So what is snally Goster?
Speaker 1:Go ahead and tell me that I was correct.
Speaker 2:Snally Goster a person, oh, no, oh, fuck Tina, oh, no Tina. What happened what?
Speaker 1:did you break I?
Speaker 2:dropped my can.
Speaker 4:Oh, tina.
Speaker 1:Now it's going to explode when you open it. Uh huh. Snally Goster. A person, especially a politician, who is guided by personal advantage rather than by consistent, respectable principles Snally Goster.
Speaker 2:Huh, only there was a politician that that.
Speaker 1:We're not going to do that. The next word actually, I'm sorry, tina gets seven points for that round. Yeah, that's only seven. Yeah, the next word is uh, you guys might actually know this one. Okay, flippity jibbit.
Speaker 2:The fucking character on Rick and Morty Flippity jibbit. There is definitely Flippity jibbit has been mentioned on Rick and Morty Flippity jibbit is a real word with a real definition.
Speaker 1:And, tina, what is that definition?
Speaker 4:That's the um Lady Liberty's uh toenails.
Speaker 2:The French have been known to use Flippity jibbit every now and again. Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 4:Um, but let me go ahead and as a man let me tell you why you're wrong, Okay, yeah, Um.
Speaker 2:So what a Flippity jibbit is is when you're sailing and you guys, you said it when you've been out at sea for a significant period of time and you get naked and you need to make sure that you give like the jib a little extra work.
Speaker 4:You know or work together. Is the jib a? Is that a pier?
Speaker 2:It can be both A ship part in the pier, both what A penis and and a part of the the ship sail.
Speaker 1:Okay, depends on what mood you're in. Yeah, um, that's great, daniel. Really good job. Flippity jibbit.
Speaker 4:I just had a mind map.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he said the sail, and then I was still thinking about the Amish.
Speaker 4:But then earlier I also saw this tick, tock Um, what women did on the show survivor if they had their period. And I was like, oh and like, when I was watching that tick talk about the woman on survivor and I was like, oh, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm like about the woman on survivor. And I was also thinking about, like what women did back like in biblical times or whatever, when they just shoved Hay up there and I was like, oh, tampons, that's a sin. And then I went back to the survivor lady who used a cup and I was like, well, wait, they had to use like Hay and like cloth before. So what if you just shove the whole sale up there and like you were a pirate, like a female pirate, and then you had like a and it was just like. You know, it gave like more credence to the pirates.
Speaker 2:So, Flippity Gibbet, this might have been the most mind mappiest mind map that Dina has ever taken us on. I didn't expect to end where we did with where we started. Sean Thoughts Flippity.
Speaker 1:Gibbet, a frivolous, flighty or excessively talkative person. And Daniel, you'll get the points for this one, because you're definitely a Flippity Gibbet. Yes, sir, the next word is I'm honored. Orbarigmas.
Speaker 5:Go with it.
Speaker 1:Orbarigmas Blue Frigno Orbarigmas.
Speaker 2:Dina, would you like to go first?
Speaker 4:You guys know about Never mind. That's not appropriate to say on air.
Speaker 2:Nope, dina, yeah We'll bleep this out if we need to bleep this out, but I need to hear what you're going to say.
Speaker 4:Can you pronounce the word again?
Speaker 1:Borbarigmas.
Speaker 4:Okay, so I was thinking of Borg.
Speaker 2:Alright, so we'll go ahead and bleep that. We'll bleep this whole thing out and, dina Borbarigmas, we're live by the way Blue. Frigno is so disappointed in you right now, Dina. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:I just the original Hulk.
Speaker 2:I'm a little sad right now with what you just said. I don't know why dolphins had to be involved. Dina, can you just go ahead and apologize?
Speaker 4:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:She's sorry.
Speaker 4:Really I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:So sorry.
Speaker 4:Oh, is this still going? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Sorry, alright, so Borbarigmas, dina, what does Borbarigmas mean?
Speaker 4:Richter Mortis.
Speaker 1:Richter Mortis.
Speaker 4:No, she said Richter Mortis. I remember earlier when I said I was smart.
Speaker 2:Richter Mortis. Okay, go on. Yeah, so this has to do with when you try to get brussel sprouts and you put them in your socks in order to ward off evil.
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah, you're right, I forgot about that.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Borbarigmas is the rumbling sound. Your stomach makes Borbarigmas.
Speaker 2:Oh, when you're in mid-shower, that makes sense. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:That's called a callback everybody.
Speaker 2:Got it. But, sean, how do I spell Fliberty Jibbit?
Speaker 1:F-L-I-B-B-E-R-T-I.
Speaker 2:Sorry, she was coughing during it. One more time F-L-I-B-B-E.
Speaker 1:B-B-E R-T-I.
Speaker 2:R-T-I, g-i-b, b-e-t Fliberty Jibbit.
Speaker 1:Fucking hell, let's go.
Speaker 4:You okay, dina, I spit out my drink.
Speaker 1:Perfect, we'll do two more. You low tricus.
Speaker 2:You're a you low tricus, fuck you.
Speaker 1:You low tricus, you low tricus. No, you low tricus.
Speaker 4:That's the root of the eucalyptus plant.
Speaker 2:That's what happens when I have carnal relations with a friend's grandmother.
Speaker 1:You low tricus. Treat her like a you low tricus, you low tricus. Having woolly or crispy hair, you low tricus.
Speaker 4:I'm not wrong. He was close in origin.
Speaker 1:I'm not wrong baby, he was pretty close. As a result, I'm going to award Dina with 785 points.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
Speaker 1:For our last one, our experts on words here are going to give us the definition of Agelest. Agelest.
Speaker 4:That's ageism, but a person Agelest.
Speaker 2:I got nothing. That's just someone who reminds you of Jar Jar Binks. They remind you of an Agelist.
Speaker 1:That was a real phoned in answer there. Pal, that really was, I just fucking chew into that bad boy.
Speaker 2:And yeah, that just fucking straight in there.
Speaker 1:What's the real definition to Agelest Dina?
Speaker 4:Oh, I already said mine Agelest.
Speaker 1:That's your definition, agelest is. Agest.
Speaker 4:I don't know why you got to come for me like that, Sean. Yeah, what the fuck Sean.
Speaker 5:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Agelest is a person who never laughs, aka Dina after Daniel tries to say something funny. And this has been Weird Definitions.
Speaker 2:You fucking set me up for that one. You went all the way through just to set me up on the last word.
Speaker 1:You set yourself up by not making Dina laugh.
Speaker 2:No, that's fair, that's a good point. You know what? This seems as good of a time as any way to try curveball, the original barbecue whiskey.
Speaker 1:Oh Lord, that's just going to taste like liquid smoke.
Speaker 2:It's supposed to be sweet and smoky. God damn it. I can already tell this is going to suck. Why'd you smell it?
Speaker 4:That's what she said. I'm going to get one.
Speaker 2:There's my cue.
Speaker 4:That's just so much.
Speaker 1:Not really. It's only like 50 milliliters or something.
Speaker 4:Is that how much a shot is?
Speaker 1:Oh shots usually an ounce to an ounce and a half, but those little bottles are measured in liters.
Speaker 4:You're using two different measurements here, Sean.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so how? And I didn't come up with this system. 50 ml.
Speaker 2:Thanks. How many ounces is that? Oh Jesus Christ? Yeah, Sean, to the ounce, I'm hurt 50 ml. Oh God, that aftertaste is so bad. Also, that's what she said, 50 ml Also, I thought.
Speaker 4:I thought a shot was two ounces.
Speaker 1:One and a half ounces and 50 ml, which is what's in that tiny bottle, is 1.69 ounces. Nice, nice, nice.
Speaker 4:What? Oh, maybe it just seems like so much more because it's like gurgling down the neck.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that felt very sexual. God damn, it Didn't have a choice there.
Speaker 2:Didn't have a choice there. You know what guys we've been edging long enough. I think that that Sean needs to deliver. No, all right, I need you to give me the Dutch rudder here, buddy, it's time.
Speaker 1:You want to double check the rundown pal?
Speaker 2:No, no, I do not, I just want to do it.
Speaker 5:We just I did not. Yeah, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1:So you guys, we're going to discuss collaboration in writing today, and Daniel's very well prepared for that, yeah, as someone who's collaborated with Dina on a number of erotic scenes in her books. So I feel like they're a good duo to talk about this topic. So we're going to discuss the benefits and challenges of collaborating with other writers, editors or artists.
Speaker 2:So let me just start out. Dina, what's it like to write sex scenes with me?
Speaker 4:Are we doing a bit or like joining, to be serious?
Speaker 5:This is the discussions that hurt, so let's be serious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're serious right now, Dina.
Speaker 4:It was eye opening and I learned a lot.
Speaker 2:Would you say it was a positive experience, dina, would you? Would you do it again?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:But you already have Dina. She's already gone. Yes, yeah, we've done it. We've done it twice already, dina, it is.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to bail you out of this. This is a thing. I needed a man and I am not afraid to admit I am a tradwife and I needed a man.
Speaker 2:I've needed a man.
Speaker 2:Okay, jokes aside, as much as I like grilling Dina on this, one of the most beneficial things about you know, we always joke around about our little sync pickle mob, which is our kind of writing group within a group, and sync pickleby praise shout out Shannon.
Speaker 2:One of the things that's really beneficial, even though a lot of us just kind of giving each other a lot of shit, is that it really does help with perspective and we can give a specific scene where I can give, you know, something to Dean or something to Shannon and say, hey, listen, I know I'm a dumb caveman. Um, how how can I make this? You know, not be offensive. You know I don't want to write as much as maybe that's how my stupid dumb male mind works. Or I'm like and girl took off shirt and she showed her boobies and the boobies were awesome. Doesn't really translate well to the written word. And so having you know people that you can kind of co-write with, edit with that are kind of like that, understand you really does help make a difference because it does give a more balanced perspective both for male and female writing, I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think perspective is key there, because a lot of times, as much as we try to be aware and have as much knowledge as we can possibly attain, like, but we can't always live somebody else's experiences and we can't know, like, what they're thinking or what their POV would be. So it's very important to have those other people that you can rely on to give you other insight as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that you know it is hard to kind of share what we think our novel creative ideas, but I think within reason, having those outside people to collaborate with make a big difference, because sometimes you get so stuck in your own head and there's been so many things where you know when I first was right, I first was writing or editing, I'm like this is a good line, this is a fucking good passage.
Speaker 2:And then you know you get that second person that starts, you know, either as a beta reader or an editor, and they look at it and they go what the fuck are you trying to say here? This is awkward and clunky as shit and you need that outside voice that kind of helps you with that. And I think that taking that feedback is one of the hardest things to do, because you kind of fall in love with little bits of your writing. And I think there's examples out there, especially in the past, where people soloed a book completely by themselves and had zero input and just released a fucking bestseller. But like I don't think that anyone writes a book solo nowadays not a good one, you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think you always have to have that sort of sounding board and, like, in order to make the most of those collaborations, you need to be able to be, like, totally open to other people's feedback and be willing. Like, if you're going to come to somebody and ask for help and ask for their perspective, you have to be open to it. You can't be resistant the second they give you what you're asking for. You have to try to put yourself in their shoes and set yourself aside.
Speaker 2:And, you know, kind of piggybacking off of that. One of, I think, the most difficult things is that you know, people think that if you get a beta reader or get feedback on your story, they think that it kind of ends there you either incorporate it or you don't. But what would you say, dina, that like the importance of how you can communicate with whether it's an editor or a beta reader. What are some mistakes people make in terms of that communication? Thank you.
Speaker 4:I think that would have to be like a personal preference but, like the vast majority of writers that I know of, have a by Daniel Hi. What the?
Speaker 2:hell just happened. I was trying to rearrange and then I hit a wire. And listen, mistakes were made.
Speaker 4:The vast majority of writers that I know they hate when beta readers comment back and forth within a document. That's a pet peeve of mine as well, except I will say I do appreciate commenting back and forth in the document under the comments with an editor with a lot of like with beta readers. I hate communicating in the document because once I'm done writing it I'm not going to open it up again because I'm not your editor. I'm a beta reader. I read it once. That's just my preference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the response to and that makes sense. I think that you're right. Everyone has different communication preferences and needs. So I think that before you go into beta reading, or even when you get with your editor for the first time because thankfully I got to work with three different editors and everyone has a little bit of a different style it was like six, but go on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like seven, but it like for me. Personally, I'm the same way where, if I see your comment, I'll either incorporate it or I won't. But if it needs a follow-up, then I'd just rather text and be like hey, so you said this, but I thought that you know what I mean, and then you just take it offline and then discuss it there, versus just going back and forth because it feels like super passive, aggressive.
Speaker 4:It is passive, aggressive and it's also just a very slow form of communication, because I'm not going to sit there with your, especially if it's not my document. I'm not going to sit there with your document open. Once I read it, I'm done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and let's shift gears a little bit, because you for a while and I know that you're hoping to pick back up your plant story, where you've been co-writing some stories with other authors. What's that experience like? Because that's not something I've personally done, but I'm definitely open-minded to trying at some point.
Speaker 4:So I've actually I am planning on co-writing a novel with somebody once I finish writing Book Three. And I've actually co-written sort of co-written with Thomas, anthony Lay previously Red God, hey, babe and also with Shannon and several other female writers on a group novel. And with Tom we did the same thing. We just communicated offline and then we would add notes into the document and then talk about it offline. It was easy to work one-on-one but we both got busy so we dropped that project. Working with a group of three other authors though with that one was Shannon that was a lot and it took a lot of collaboration. And it took we had to make a document like a Google Doc assigning parts, and literally all of us would edit the Google Doc to outline this novel and what we were going to do and collaborate our ideas, and you would just see strings of messages that we would have to later go back and organize. It was a lot.
Speaker 2:Okay, and that makes a lot of sense. So I think that I guess for me, the ending thing is that it all comes down to not just communicating, because that's the easy answer but knowing the ways that both Not only you want to be communicated with, but the people you're working with want to be communicated with is finding that style and system that works for you guys, because I don't think that any sort of collaboration on something like this works unless you can be completely transparent and open and honest. You have to check your ego at the door a little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we went through several different methodologies on that big group collaboration to try to figure out what was best for us. Because we started off messaging, because all of us are message, we message people. We don't talk in the document and we thought that that would work. But with a bigger group it didn't, so we had to go to a separate document just to communicate what was going to happen in that book, and I really want to do it again.
Speaker 2:It was a lot of fun, and so I guess I think that that's the key there is that I think that the passion projects in general probably kind of roll solo, like if you got the book of your heart not saying you can't collaborate with people on that because the world is full of exceptions to rules and everyone's different. But your personal passion project is probably one you want to keep to yourself. But what it sounds like and stop me if I'm wrong is that the fun projects, the kind of more creative, interesting, maybe weirder stuff, is what would probably be a good collaboration candidate.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Like the obscure things that you don't usually do, but I'm also thinking about the I Am Number Four series and how the two. It was written by two people and they broke up the Tecasselor. Yeah, they assigned, like one of them gave over the rights to the other and like he kept writing. I'm wondering, like, the ins and outs of that, because that's a very popular series, it's big. It's huge, it's long. That's what she said.
Speaker 2:That's what she said. There we go, and that's the perfect thing to end it on right there.
Speaker 4:So you know I wasn't done. Wait, I was in the middle of a fucking thought.
Speaker 2:Okay, that seems like an ending to me.
Speaker 4:So, like, obviously they started together. So I want to know, like, the ins and outs of like where the fallout occurred in that. That would be interesting to know. Okay, now I'm done.
Speaker 2:It wouldn't have been cool if, like, we've gotten one of the authors on the show and like talked with us. Like that would have been so cool, like maybe we should reach out to him sometime, right, sean yeah totally.
Speaker 1:And maybe they'll ghost us after watching or listening to an episode. Also, daniel, totally classic. You do not know when a woman's done.
Speaker 2:Jokes aside, I do this to Miriam all the time. She puts these big pauses in her statements so like we'll be talking on the phone and then she'll. They'll be like dead air and I'm like, oh okay, this sentence is finished. All right, I'll talk to you later. And then she's like why are you rushing me off the phone? I thought you were done.
Speaker 4:Silence is so great, you should try listening. So we're all about storytelling here and, as such, we try to share a fun story each week. So, without further ado, it's story time with producer Sean.
Speaker 2:All right, so we're going to go back to the story.
Speaker 1:It was the resurgence of what became to be known as garage rock. There was a lot of young rock bands coming out around the same time that we're kind of using like really gritty, like not overproduced sound, really like wild style of rebellious rock and roll. The hives come to mind, strokes, jet comes to mind. I don't know, the killers maybe could be thrown in there. Yeah, a little more electronically. I know that that fits in that era. There was a band at the time that really caught my attention, a two piece band called the White Stripes.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's so weird.
Speaker 1:I had heard their single, fell in love with a girl when they performed it live on the MTV Video Music Awards, which was a thing kids, 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:So they played music videos on.
Speaker 1:TV and they had musical artists perform and I was so blown away by the fact that it was just two musicians together a guitarist who sang as well and then a drummer. But it was just so high energy and the performance was amazing and they had like 100 people that all wore white and red, like candy stripes was their thing. So everything was white, red and black. It was all a pure like aesthetic. Anyway, I was in a band and one day in the garage when we were playing, I decided to just start playing, fall in Love with a Girl by the White Stripes, and our drummer, emily, started playing along and we had a really good time. So we decided to start covering their music. Fast forward, we find out they're coming to the Warfield in San Francisco, which is like my favorite venue, to Little Theater I don't know how many seats, but not many. It's like a really old venue too, so it's like that really cool architecture to it. All. General admission, and I swear it was like 20 bucks a ticket or something and they came two nights in a row. So that's what she said they played two nights in a row. This was 2003, I believe, and we got tickets for both shows when we got there we saw their bus or their car like outside of the side entrance, which is like the stage side entrance, and we were like maybe we should hang out after the show. We could possibly meet them. So we saw the show. They ripped into the first song, let's Shake Hands. I'll never forget it. Amazing show. They played like 30 songs. It was so good, we bought merch it was incredible Decided to go outside and wait after the show, just hoping that they would come out and we could get a chance to meet them.
Speaker 1:I didn't really care about getting a photo or anything. Plus, cell phone cameras really sucked back then. So if you wanted a good photo you had to bring a real camera, like a digital, like a point and shoot camera or like one of those disposable ones. So we're waiting outside for a long time there was other people waiting too. They kind of ended up leaving.
Speaker 1:It's probably two hours into it and someone comes up to us from the general area of the side entrance and he's like hey, you guys trying to meet the light stripes, like yeah, and he says, listen, the security in there. They can be bribed pretty easy. Give me like 10 bucks, I'll go over there, I'll see if we can get you in. I was like I don't have cash. But Emily had cash so she gave the dude 10 bucks. He walks over to the door, knocks on it. He's having a conversation with them. We're like 10, 15 feet away, so we really know what's happening and the dude just walks away with the money. Ah boy, dude had nothing to do with the venue. He just was trying to get money out of some fucking naive kids. I should say we were like 17 at the time.
Speaker 1:So like not very weathered, not very experienced. They didn't end up coming out. We're like we'll try again tomorrow. Again, the show was great. The next day Incredible, showed up early, enjoyed the show and waited outside and finally, when we were just about to give up, the door opens and Jack White and Meg White walk out. I was ecstatic. All I wanted was to shake their hands and tell them oh, much of that.
Speaker 1:I loved my ex at the time. She was carrying our t-shirts and she got her signed by Jack and Meg. I took some photos with Emily and them and I just said I just want to shake your hand and tell you I love your music. We play your music in our garage all the time. It's a great time. They were both very nice. It was an incredible meeting. Afterwards my ex realized she got my shirt signed instead of hers by mistake, because we both got to see each other. So I have since framed that. I worked in a frame shop a few years later in my life and I have that framed with the ticket stubs. It's one of my prized possessions and this is a bonus story because there's another celebrity encounter that's related. A few months later, they came back and played the Berkeley Greek theater which is at UC Berkeley in California Incredible venue it's like it looks like a miniature Greek Coliseum, basically, again, show is incredible.
Speaker 1:We're all filing out to leave at the end of the night and I look over to my left and Jason Lee is there. Jason Lee, the actor From Mallrats. My name is Earl. He's a huge Kevin Smith fan. So I was like holy shit, it's Jason Lee. So I like ran over there and I was like dude, jason Lee, my name's Sean, I'm a huge fan and I went to shake his hand and he said this bump only man. And I fist bumped him and I said, don't worry, I'm not going to stink palm. Yeah, and if you've seen Mallrats you can get the reference. Anyway, he was really great and I think like a second after that a bunch of other people realized Jason Lee was there and kind of rushed over. I guess he was a big fan of the band and just wanted to see him live. That's badass. So I got to meet the band and then a couple months later I got to meet Jason Lee, all because of the band and listen for folks at home that have had been following our show.
Speaker 2:if you guys are the hardcore supporters, you know that one of my story times is about the time that I started a white stripes cover band, which was a really a Sean story.
Speaker 5:I still have.
Speaker 1:That was on True.
Speaker 2:Confessions yeah, that's right. I still have all the white line song on my iPad, ipad iPod.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we called our band the white lines because it sounded like the white stripes and it was a reference to cocaine, which we didn't do cocaine, but we thought it was cool to sound like we did cocaine.
Speaker 2:So, sean, I hope, do you still have your own recordings? Like, could you send a little bit, all right? Well then, I'm going to go ahead and plug my iPod up to the laptop and see if I can send you over.
Speaker 1:You've been telling me that for years, but yeah, that's how I met the white stripes I took notes, I took notes.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, you know 20 bucks a ticket.
Speaker 4:That's like $200 back then because you're so old.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, correct.
Speaker 4:Boom Roasted, boom 20 years ago that's older than me Boom.
Speaker 2:Roasted.
Speaker 4:Who doesn't carry cash back then. They didn't even have credit cards back then.
Speaker 1:Boom Roasted.
Speaker 4:Are you telling me that this bitch didn't get both of your shirts signed? She only got like she thought she only got her shirts signed. What the fuck Are?
Speaker 1:you kidding me? If I remember correctly, she asked me if I wanted to get mine signed and I said I didn't really care about getting it signed, I just wanted to shake their hands and I also wanted to wear the shirt and I wouldn't have worn it if it was signed. And I never did wear it because it was signed.
Speaker 2:So fair enough. Yeah, that makes sense, but these are all great questions and I agree, keep them coming.
Speaker 4:Yeah, keep them good, I don't have any more questions. Thank you. Seven or eight more?
Speaker 2:questions please. This just made me so happy that that was the song that I picked for this episode. Yeah, tell them over.
Speaker 1:the girl is the first song that I ever heard by the White Stripes, and Daniel used it in my intro and he didn't know that. This is the story I was going to tell today.
Speaker 2:He just did it because he knows that I like the White Stripes. Oh wait, really. Yeah, I had no idea. This isn't a story that I've heard from Sean before.
Speaker 4:Oh, I thought this was a bit.
Speaker 2:No, no, 100% dude. This was just. I picked a song that reminded me of Sean, which was the White Stripes, because of the White Stripes cover band he did, and yeah, true.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I should get married or something. That's cute, I know.
Speaker 1:So, Dina, while you furiously score to score, scroll to your notes and your phone. Why don't we give the opportunity to our audience to choose next story time with Dina Soros?
Speaker 4:It would be so nice of us if we did that for our audience and allowed them to pick a story time that they were interested in hearing, because there's just so many and like I, couldn't pick for them.
Speaker 2:You're doing such a good job of killing time. You're doing so good. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4:It would just be like you know this is a democracy, and one thing that I stand for is democracy, and that's why we set up the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're the democracy. Yeah, because I mean, you know what?
Speaker 4:a filibuster.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about filibusters for the next year.
Speaker 4:I just think that that Parks and Rec episode really opened my eyes to politics and that's why the next story time, or choose your own adventure segment that you guys can pick from is a real liberty to it right now.
Speaker 1:A snally Guster, I think is what you meant.
Speaker 2:A real snally Guster.
Speaker 4:My first bar, the horse ranch and the stolen lawn ornament.
Speaker 2:Hmm, John.
Speaker 1:So Kelly likes the stolen lawn ornament. I don't know if you heard her in the background, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I'm with you on stolen law and ornament Like. That's where my gut leads me, but I also can't stop thinking about H words.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like we're going to have to prepare to get really drunk when she tells the horse ranch story. You know our audience is going to pick that for that reason. So let's not even you know holding punches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, audience, do the right thing. Do the right thing for our livers. Okay, we deserve this. You know I'm excited. I'm excited to get back on the story time. It's going to be a beautiful one. But you want to know what I'm most excited about, guys. I'm excited because I'm going to give you guys a little bit of a thing before we do this one. I've been holding on to one winner. You're dick 2003.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's not a winner.
Speaker 2:It's not a winner. Yeah, it was, and we've done every single cringy copulation that literally views ever done, except for this one because it's got some questionable content. And I can't wait to go on this journey with us as we get into the 2003 winner, because, you see, every week we celebrate some of the worst erotic literature in history, as select by literally review a British literary magazine in the segment that we call Cringy copulation. These are real excerpts from real books intended to be taken seriously. This week's excerpt will be read by Dina and is from the 2003 winner of the Bad Sex and Fiction Award, bunker 13, by Andruta Bahal. Andruta Bahal, andruta Bahal. I see.
Speaker 5:Get a B with that. Say it again, say it again. Get it, andruta, get it.
Speaker 2:He's a founder and editor-in-chief of Cobra Post, an Indian news website. Prior to founding Cobra Post, he also co-founded DeHelka.
Speaker 5:DeHelka baby. Oh yeah, I found a piece of paper, dina check out the DMs.
Speaker 2:If that's a steamy shower voice, Dina, it's time to bring it back. Get hot with it.
Speaker 4:I don't know how to say that word.
Speaker 1:Blackbirds, it's blackbirds, not that word it's blackbirds.
Speaker 2:It's blackbirds, just go for it. Dina, don't read ahead. You know the rules.
Speaker 4:Her breasts are placards for the endomorphically endowed Nailed it In spite of yourself. A soft whistle of air escapes you Like a quiff. Is she talking about a quiff?
Speaker 1:Let's save the commentary.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cute. Yeah, please don't have a tutorial on that.
Speaker 4:In spite of yourself, a soft whistle of air escapes you. She's taking off her trousers now. Oh, I need to read this in a British accent. They are a heap on the floor. The panties are white and translucent. You can see the dark hair sticking to them. Inside there's a design as well. You gasp, what's that? You ask. You see a designer. Let's see Hair razored and ordered in the shape of a swastika. Hair razored and ordered in the shape of a swastika, the Aryan denominator. As your hands roam her back, her breasts and traced the swastika on her mound, you start feeling like an ancient Aryan warlord yourself. She sandwiches your nozzle between her tits, massaging it with a slow rhythm. A trailer to bookmark the events ahead. I don't want to know what the events are For now. She has taken you in her lovely mouth. Her palms are holding her neck and thumbs are at her ears, regulating the speed of her head as she swallows and then sucks up your machinery.
Speaker 2:I missed you guys. So much.
Speaker 1:That was the excerpt just from the same year that I met the White Stripes.
Speaker 2:We're on point For the record. This is Indian swastika, very different than Nazi swastika, Still the same symbol.
Speaker 4:What is it? It's the same symbol.
Speaker 2:Same symbol, but Indian Hinduism has a completely different meaning behind it. It's actually an important part of the culture. Nazi Germany stole that shit and then corrupted that shit and made it terrible.
Speaker 4:Yes, Okay, a question what is a designer?
Speaker 2:Pusse, Pusse. I assume that means that whenever you shave your pubic hair into a specific you put a little extra effort into the artistry of your. She sandwiches your nozzle, yeah, so it's kind of like those copies.
Speaker 4:Like a gasoline nozzle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they make designs on your latte. It's kind of like that I love that journey.
Speaker 1:It's like when they put a swastika on your latte, yeah, so you could be.
Speaker 2:She's cursed Like I didn't know that was going to be my nightmare, but as a Jewish guy, that would be. My nightmare is getting off Amorous with a lady and you just pull off her underwear and you're like oh fuck, there's so much detail into the hair sticking to the underwear Doesn't matter how it sucks.
Speaker 4:It matters, I'm never going to. I'm going to pass everybody on the street and be like Is your? Are you shaved with a swastika?
Speaker 1:He drew hammer at designer pussy. Do you have to have that designer pussy?
Speaker 4:Wink, wink. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Just next time you're having like a girl's night, like having a pillow fight and all that stuff, just ask, you know, just be like hey, don't they all just have you ever had a pillow fight?
Speaker 4:I have not.
Speaker 2:Of course I have. Yeah, what the fuck, dina?
Speaker 4:Well, I mean my brother has like body, slam me and knock me out with a pillow, but like no, we beat the shit out of each other with pillows, dude, yeah.
Speaker 2:And a sock full of quarters it's a real good time. Yeah, it's a really good time, Sean. What were your thoughts on the hot, sexy reading that we just had?
Speaker 1:I like how like it wasn't designed to be the Aryan denominator. But the male in this scenario thought it was. And not only was he not like put off by it, it like turned him on more.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good part, I'm glad Dina any final thoughts on this blatant bit of sexual.
Speaker 1:Blatant bit of sexual. Yeah, that's the end of a sentence.
Speaker 2:I've had fucking barbecue, whiskey and sour pickle vodka.
Speaker 4:And Sunny D Vodka. The fuck, where did you get that? What the fuck.
Speaker 1:It's Jar, Jar Binks.
Speaker 4:Oh my God people should put that on their peens. It's.
Speaker 1:Jar Jar Binks. It's way too small for that dear, but it's not too small for me, sean, it's a good idea.
Speaker 4:I'll send it to you buddy Daniel would make it work. I wonder if they make those for. Sorry.
Speaker 1:They do make pierner costumes, like I've seen it.
Speaker 4:I've seen the elephant ones or whatever yeah.
Speaker 5:What the?
Speaker 2:Is that what Tim does for you? Is that date night? Nope, that's weird. He dresses it up.
Speaker 1:Daniel puts an oyster costume on his Is this saying on it's like the little pearl in the oyster. Alright, Daniel, why don't you tell the folks where they can leave us a voicemail One more time?
Speaker 2:If you guys have thoughts on designer pussays or you know, sean and the White Stripes or Sean's luscious, luscious, luscious. This worked well.
Speaker 4:We're making up your words today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, luscious, beautiful full-body lips. Then please leave us a voicemail. 347169 weird, that's 34769934.
Speaker 1:Alright, he was talking about my labia, four lips.
Speaker 5:Always have labia.
Speaker 4:Confirmed.
Speaker 2:Confirmed. Yeah, we also have that time of the month too. That's pretty common with men.
Speaker 4:That I actually do know. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Dina, if the folks want to find you and send you like hot and sensual DMs, where should they find you on social media?
Speaker 4:$20 for a DM $20 to DM. You can find me on X at DinosaurusD at Steelight Beach, nuts D.
Speaker 2:And producer Sean.
Speaker 1:Where can the folks find you bud. You can find me on Xcom at Shaysoldo which end for dinner, my bud. I made some marinated skirt steak and asparagus Skirt skirt.
Speaker 2:You can see that If you say a little slower, more sensual, skirt skirt, no bud, that's even better. You can find me on Twitter. Cause fuck X at DanQWrightSping. That's DanQWrightSping, singular, danqwrightsping, danqwrightsping. You're fucking Kelly coming in off the top row. For the background. She said bank. That's rude. That's rude. Executive producer Kelly. That's rude. But yeah, you can find me on there and you can also check out my website, sean. What's my website?
Speaker 1:That's dumps4dankcom, d-u-m-p-s, the number four, d-a-n-qcom.
Speaker 2:Thank you Perfect. Alright, guys, until next week, cause we're coming back at you longer, stronger and full of D-U-M-P-S.
Speaker 1:D-U-M-P-S. Full of Zugsvang.
Speaker 2:It's full of Zugsvang baby, we are so full of Zugsvang up in here. We love you guys all Can't wait to see you guys again next week.
Speaker 3:Jazz hands.
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