Don't Make It Weird
Two amateur authors and amateur humans—Daniel and Dina—discuss all things writing and books, and re-tell chaotic life adventures from cults to exes that think they’re horses. We’ve got you covered in this comedic and sarcastic, life-centered podcast. Follow us as we fail to not make it weird.
Don't Make It Weird
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Ever found yourself in the aftermath of a shower, faced with a toilet disaster that has you contemplating life choices? Yeah, us too—and we're spilling it all in this episode! Join Daniel and Dinasaurus, along with our quick-witted Producer Sean, as we navigate through the murky waters of bathroom blunders with a side of Sunny D Vodka Seltzers. Prepare to cringe and chuckle as we share stories that are just too outrageous to keep to ourselves.
Bathroom humor aside, we're taking the plunge into the untold tales behind Disney classics, offering a fresh and comical take on 'The Little Mermaid' and the myths surrounding sex education in animation. Dina's Tiktok Conspiracy Corner might just have you questioning reality—or at least, the reality of social media. Plus, we're giving some much-deserved shoutouts to our community, so don't miss out on your chance to be part of the weird and wonderful banter!
Wrapping up with a game of 'Weird Definitions,’ where we try our hand at guessing the meanings of the most bizarre words we can find—let's just say, our vocabulary may never be the same again. And as if that wasn't enough, we're ending with a spirited debate over the proper measurement of shots, because let's face it, size does matter—when it comes to your drinks, that is. So, grab a beverage (measured correctly, please) and settle in for an episode full of unexpected twists, gut-busting laughter, and a bit of learning on the side. Cheers, weirdos!
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It's the Don't Make.
Speaker 1It Weird podcast with your hosts Daniel and Dina Soros.
Speaker 2Finally, the dink has come back to the Don't Make it Weird podcast. Welcome to the only writing storytelling comedy podcast for the writing community by the writing community. I'm one of your podcast hosts, dan Quigley, and I'm joined as always by the heated hedonist whose hateful heresies herald hair harm herself Dina Soros.
Speaker 3Man that was so good.
Speaker 4You used hedonism before, haven't?
Speaker 2you. I bet it felt right, Dina. Sometimes it has to feel right.
Speaker 4Yeah, so I want to know something here if I'm alone or not.
Speaker 5You guys ever like sitting on the toilet.
Speaker 4Obviously since you're a guy, you would be taking a shit.
Speaker 2I assume I'd say that allegedly 40% of my day spent on the toilet, sean. Would that be accurate?
Speaker 1I don't track your day, so I don't have a fucking idea.
Speaker 4Anyway, you ever sit in there and you sit up too far and you've touched the back of the toilet lid and then you immediately need to go shower.
Speaker 2No, I don't think this is something that I've experienced. My posture is not that good.
Speaker 1I'm usually hunched over my phone on the toilet.
Speaker 4I mean yeah, but then you ever make the mistake. I'm like ugh.
Speaker 2No, dude, I'm like a little poop goblin, I'm just like over there. No, no, I have not done this. Has this happened to you recently, dina?
Speaker 4Is this something that you should be?
Speaker 2Oh, did you immediately shower.
Speaker 4Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Yeah, Now I will go in another direction. You want to know what the worst feeling in the world is. The fucking worst, okay.
Speaker 5Probably sex with you.
Speaker 4Wow that was good.
Speaker 2All right, great show everyone.
Speaker 1I'm going to go to the burn ward.
Speaker 2I'm done. I just got fucking wrecked right there, shout out my wife. I'm so sorry that you have to sleep with me, but, dina, have you ever had the irresistible Okay, that's fair have you ever had the irresistible need to poop mid-shower and then you have to do the awkward, get out of the shower, sit down on the toilet seat while your body is fucking wet and it is uncomfortably moist and humid, and it's the worst experience that one can have.
Speaker 4As a child that couldn't control her own body, bladder, stomach.
Speaker 5Just might be on the wall.
Speaker 2Okay, what about if you've been at the pool and you have to go out and just pee?
Speaker 4Oh, that's the yeah. That is awful, Especially if you're wearing a one-piece, imagine.
Speaker 2That's rough. Yeah, I wear one-pieces a lot, sean. What do you feel about that buddy?
Speaker 1I think what's worse than that is when you just took an amazing shower and you feel so clean, so refreshed, and you just have dried off or are drying off and then you have to take a shit because it erases that clean feeling. Now you're back to being a disgusting pig again, if I shower in the morning, which I often do, and then I have to take a shit shortly thereafter. It kind of sets a bad precedent for the rest of the day.
Speaker 5It kind of ruins my day.
Speaker 1I'll be honest.
Speaker 2Well, you guys, you want to know what ruins my day. It's when I don't get a chance to introduce the third member of our team, because we have another member and he's already been talking here a little bit and you guys love him almost as much as you love me. And you know what guys More. More honestly, I fell in love with a Sean. I made him live her once and he lost it completely. He's in love with Kalei and sometimes a barking seal can be so misleading. He turns and says are you all right? I said I must be fine because Clippy's still beaten. Come and record with me on Riverside. Dina said it's fine, she don't consider it cheating. Producer Sean everyone.
Speaker 1Is there a reason you chose that song today, bud?
Speaker 2You know, sean, it's because we need to do a deep dive into you, buddy, we need to get to know you a little bit more. We've heard a lot of stories by Dina, a lot of stories by me and, for the folks, if you guys stick around and listen, I think we have a very special story time this week. Who's going to be our story time teller? Dina?
Speaker 4Oh me, it's going to be Sean Sean is already ready to answer that question.
Speaker 1It's story time with producer Sean today and we'll tease that a little bit, but first you have to do the button for yourself.
Speaker 4Yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 1It's story time with producer Sean today. It's a very popular show by popular demand, aka our new fan, Levi, who Levi demanded a story time with producer Sean, so we're going to do that today and I'll tease that in a moment. But first let's talk about our drinking games. We observe Buffalo on this show, which means we drink with our off hands.
Speaker 2We are devout.
Speaker 1Buffaloites, we are all right-handed, which means we all drink with our left hand on the show and out in the world, and if we get caught by someone else drinking with our right hands, we have to finish our drink right then, and there Also, we have a series of words and phrases that trigger a buzzer, just like this. That means it's time to drink, and this week we're introducing a new segment where we all try the same weird drink together. And, guys, this week we discovered Sunny D Vodka Seltzer. Kelly sent me a picture of this while she was shopping one day and I was immediately intrigued and I thought you know what? Let's try it together. So we all picked up a pack of these Sunny D Vodka Seltzers and we're all going to give it a try right now. Kelly's got one too Up to camera.
Speaker 2Before we do that, I'm going to be drinking a little extra today in punishment, because I missed a last episode and I've been told that I've been a little bit of a buzzkill. I haven't been partying as hard, so today we're going to be starting out with Spicy Pickle Vodka and I'm going to be hating life while the rest of them are enjoying a nice evening.
Speaker 1Dude, that actually sounds really good to me. Have you ever?
Speaker 2had a pickle back. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4That's what I immediately thought of, but it's vodka not.
Speaker 1You guys, you can't open the miniature bottle.
Speaker 2I figured it out. It smells very pickle-esque. It has a strong waft of pickle.
Speaker 4When do we get to try our drink?
Speaker 1Daniel's going to do his shot really quick because he has to step on people's toes.
Speaker 2Listen. The audience likes to edge. Dina, we're edgy right now.
Speaker 4Oh my God, just drink your drink.
Speaker 1I want a sip Choke on the pickle buddy. Sing pickle please. All right, so much. I'm actually kind of disappointed. This is clear. I was hoping it'd be orange, but it's not good, buddy Guys let's chase it with some Sunny. D so hot.
Speaker 4I'm a little scared.
Speaker 1I still taste hot pickle. Holy crap, it tastes just like Sunny D. I want to enjoy it. It's carbonated Sunny D.
Speaker 4It's got a little bit of an aftertaste though.
Speaker 1I mean, all these hard seltzers do it's like that same lingering thing. All right, it was so hot. I don't know if I'd ever buy this again, but I don't hate it. I should have said it first. No, you don't sip it, buddy, it's a shot.
Speaker 2No, I know I'm saying I should have said Sunny D first. Right now I don't have an opinion.
Speaker 1Do you need 10 minutes? Yeah, just a little hug.
Speaker 2Sean, can you just go ahead and pop that shirt off.
Disney Shower Thoughts and Tick Tock Theories
Speaker 1Yeah, sure thing, buddy. So Daniel asked for some time to talk about his shower thoughts, and imagine you can hear shower sounds right now, because I'm going to add them in post. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2So, guys, I want to give you guys a very rare opportunity. I want you guys to come behind the scenes Nothing. Hop in the shower to meet. Hop in the shower with me like your horse girl. And I have a horrifying thought. Do you want to just shit in the shower like a horse would oh please Do horses shit in the shower.
Speaker 4No, but they just like kind of free ball there.
Speaker 1That's three, that's three.
Speaker 2This sunny D is amazing. After that pickle shot, dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1The trick to make this good is to drink something awful beforehand.
Speaker 2That is the key here. So, all right, I've got a daughter and a son and they're both very young, and my daughter have you ever noticed that he, just like very often forgets about baby laser? I do forget about laser all the time.
Speaker 1He did take a beat there and add, and a son like I had my other day that he has a son.
Speaker 2I love him. Fuck you guys. My daughters are adorable.
Speaker 1She tried being a part of their lives sometimes. Anyway, go on.
Speaker 2So I've been watching over the last like five plus years. I've been watching a lot of Disney specifically.
Speaker 2God the bluey, amazing and the worst thing that's ever happened. Television, but I was watching a little mermaid. And then I was watching a little mermaid too and I had the horrifying thought of, for a lot of reasons how horrifying is the post wedding coitus between the little mermaid in Prince Eric? Because I want you guys to think about this for a second. The little mermaid is from a fish culture. All of her sisters are basically the same age, so that's like a clutch of eggs.
Speaker 2This isn't like a mammalian bird here. This was fish style bird and that is all she's known of sex. She's never had a vagina. She does not know how mammals make point point. And now, on her first like week into having a life no one's in the castle talk about. Her husband doesn't know. She's like a wedding night. This is going to happen and this is a king and queen thing, so consummating the marriage has to happen immediately, immediately, and she has to be getting pregnant immediately because, you know it, mermaid too, she's got kids. That had to be trauma that she can't unlive. Like what the fuck did she think the first night she's like, oh man, what a great wedding, I'm ready to go to sleep. And he's like hey, so listen, I'm going to put my dangling appendage inside of you and she's like what the fuck Like? This is a fucked up thing. This is a horror movie stuff, guys.
Speaker 1Just so we're clear while you're watching Disney movies with your children, you're thinking about the characters having sex with each other?
Speaker 4Yes, I mean, ok, I'm going to defend him on this one, because, like, who doesn't?
Speaker 2Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4What Snow White?
Speaker 2was 14, bro, yeah, ok different time, different culture, because Ariel's like 16.
Speaker 4This is horrifying. How are you not like yes?
Speaker 2They're all inexperienced children and she doesn't understand anatomy or basic biology.
Speaker 1I mean, I feel like it would be no different from any other girl becoming a woman.
Speaker 2No, because at least fucking Belle, she's read books, she's a smart person, she knows what she's getting into post marriage.
Speaker 4Yeah, and I too learned about sex from books.
Speaker 1I bet those, those sex ed books in the in the little, the little French town where she lived was super accurate for the time OK, but at least there's conversations.
Speaker 2There's going to be OK but hold on.
Speaker 4Here's the thing. Here's the thing, daniel. I feel like this is cut. I feel like this is a poor reflection on you, because first of all, first, of, all sex doesn't have to hurt the first time. What, what? Who's to say she had a bad first time Like? Who's to say that Eric is stingy? I want.
Speaker 2OK, I want you to think that you got put into an alien culture. You just got fucking kidnapped by aliens. They have a completely different biology than you. You have no idea how any of their sexual relations work. She doesn't know. What a fucking. She's going to teach me? You just got picked up by an alien and now they're sticking a fucking probe in your eyeball, going yeah, baby, about to make you pregnant. What the fuck would your reaction be?
Speaker 4It would depend on if they're making their finger to your eye. You've heard of eyeball licking.
Speaker 2Making our babies.
Speaker 1All right, well, sound off in the comments. What do you think about this shower thought from Daniel and what do you think Ariel felt like in that moment?
Speaker 2I'm just saying it's horror movie, shit, guys. But anyways, well, digress, I digress. We'll hop out of the shower here, guys, because it's time to get to the segment that we are all truly prepared for, the one that that really gets the people going.
Speaker 4So I want you to do the one second pitch.
Speaker 1No, no, no she's skipping right to the end.
Speaker 2I've been waiting for this moment for too long, dina. All right. So so much, guys, to dim the lights, put on some good moon music and tuck in with a nice, very cozy blanket, because it is time for Dina's tick tock conspiracy corner.
Speaker 5Yeah so here's the thing already.
Speaker 4Well, no, I had a speech prepared because I am so fucking deep. I'm so fucking deep on conspiracy tick, tock that I don't know what's real anymore. I am an intelligent person, despite what's drunk. Don't make it weird, presents or allows me to present myself as anyone's great College like 12. I'm intelligent. I know what's real and what's not. I know science. I don't know. I don't know if the earth is round.
Speaker 4There is a lot of science and science and I see why people believe it anyway. And I'm on a luminati tick tock. Y'all don't even know that shit's fucking wild. And the thing with the thing that this is how they got me A luminati tick tock 100 percent believe it. I believe every fucking thing that I see there, because I've I can't say how, but I've been involved in situations where I'm like illuminati real, yep, absolutely no. So what? Sean?
Speaker 1I didn't think that was a question. Yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 4So, like Illuminati, tick tock, absolutely there, believe everything that I'm saying. But then that's how they got me, because I'm like wait if this is true, Maybe the earth is flat and I hate that. I'm saying that.
Speaker 2Dina, you float on point.
Speaker 4It's, but see the. Okay, here's the latest thing that got me? Was that the firmament?
Speaker 2Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4The firmament, but it's genitalia, okay. So something about water and how it reflects it always curves. So if we're, if we're, like you see something flat, the water is always there. It's always going to curve to reflect against the flat surface. So if the earth is round, we don't have rainbows.
Speaker 2That doesn't hold up the signs, because rainbows are light spectrums, right.
Speaker 4But I don't remember what the actual tick tock said, but it made sense based on the light spectrum and how the water bends. So anyway, okay. So Sean, sean quick question.
Speaker 2So, Sean, if Dina ends up being like the old lady that walks remember in Belmont we had that old lady that would just walk around pushing a shopping cart with no pants on, Like all?
Speaker 1the time. Yeah, Just just a long white t-shirt.
Speaker 2Yeah, if Dina becomes her, is it our fault for pushing the segment?
Speaker 4Yes.
Speaker 1No, it's tick tock's fault, it's social media's fault. Okay, all right, so we blame China.
Speaker 4I got my. I got my conspiracy, though Mandela effect is just used by the government to see who notices what, to see who they can control.
Speaker 2So the government is purposely creating these Mandela effects. The burn scene bears is is was the burn scene bears, not the burnstein bears? And the government is just trying to. Yeah, the, the government is just trying to.
Speaker 4And fruit of the loom did have a chronocopia logo.
Speaker 1Wait, it doesn't. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2No, no, it has the fucking fruit on the underwear, cornucopia.
Speaker 4But not a cornucopia. But you've seen the cornucopia before right.
Speaker 2Yes, you know, I've seen it.
Speaker 4Same.
Speaker 2Fucking flat earth. Flat earth is real Okay.
Speaker 4This is what I'm saying. This is how they got me.
Speaker 2This is this is a moment. This is how they got us, dina. This is how they got us. Yeah, I'm going to ride off this clip with you, buddy, shout out.
Speaker 4If Daniel's going down this road, I know I'm wrong.
Speaker 2But you want to know what's never wrong, dina, your mom, because that's true, no, lies detected.
Speaker 4Yeah, okay, yeah, no, my mom, yeah, that checks, that's the checks.
Speaker 2So, Dina, it's time for a segment that in no way we stole from we have Issues or anyone else. This is a completely original segment and you guys should definitely not check out Stevie and Anthony at we have Issues podcast and check out their incredible comic death list and our supposed super role play.
Speaker 1Did you say not?
Speaker 2check out? Yeah, don't, because then they will never know that there is any other segment that we could have possibly stolen this thing from Allegedly yeah, allegedly, allegedly. So this is where we got to check in with our writing and whatever creative projects that we're on and share the world. We've been months off, so we have to have had some accountability at buddying Dina Skip.
Speaker 5Oh no, reverse. That's not how this works, that's not how this works.
Speaker 2Dina.
Speaker 4I haven't written because I don't know what I'm doing for book three. Book two is in line. Edits on the second round I have another, a new editor I hear she's doing great and I don't know what to do for book three.
Speaker 2So I mean you've taken a pretty hard left turn from coming of age teen romance with a little bit of magic to now magic is going to be a fucking thing and shit's going to get fucked up Like are you going to go full on dragons?
Speaker 1Actually I'll take this one. I'm actually working on Dina's book three. That's what I've been working on.
Speaker 5It's called Everything Special.
Speaker 4And it's really it is, but okay.
Speaker 1Told you I'm working on it. It really fleshed it out. Yeah, that's what I've been working on.
Speaker 2I'm proud of you, Sean. No, no, I'm definitely proud of you. How is your Madden franchise going, buddy? Are you doing well?
Speaker 1No, no, not at all.
Speaker 2Who's your?
Speaker 4Oh, I bet on Sportsball. Oh, yes, that's right. And did you know?
Speaker 1Shout out to Troy Lyons Wait, I thought you took the lines Defend the roar.
Speaker 4That was my second because I lost the first one, so I was like so was a watch. Yeah, I don't see it. That's a win.
Speaker 1Well, I still ask money, but yeah.
Speaker 4But you won some money back.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, see, it's like the same thing, it's no problem, no problem, perfect. Yeah, I finally sent off my book two as well, waiting to see if Lost Boys Press wants it or if they're like you know what one was enough from you, like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, you know what one was enough from you, big guy. So we'll see what happens there. But, excited about it, and you know, if they pick a book two, that means I actually have to, like write book three. So, deena, maybe you can write my book three and I'll write your book three. What do you think?
Speaker 4I'll take that.
Speaker 1Okay, perfect, I'm right here, but that's okay.
Speaker 4We have a voicemail. Do we have a voicemail?
Speaker 3Hey, I'm out here in perfection just taming a couple horses and and that girl, who the hell are you talking to? Now this is gonna make a weird blackass. It's who we've been listening to, you know, with the truck, when I was eating the Balodian beans with the cilantro. It's gonna be one of those days, I don't know how you're doing that.
Speaker 3You really think they're gonna play that message on there? Amit Valentine, I don't care. I need to tell them my opinion on feet. You know I had the massage valve feet the other day. They were kind of yellow. Don't you tell them how yellow my feet are? I won't come over there. I'm gonna make you feel this. Alright, as listening said. Damn it already. Alright, so listen. Anyway, Sean, Daniel, Dina, Matt and I, we've been listening to your show. Quite like it a lot, didn't we? I don't know if I like it. You know I tolerate you listening to it.
Speaker 1Damn it Valentine. How?
Discussion About Definitions and Humorous Exchanges
Speaker 3many times do I gotta tell you? And when I'm calling somebody on the phone, you are not supposed to interrupt in me. I don't care, I won't do my damn. Yeah, we've got to be a dumbass. Oh anyway, daniel, sean, dina, I just want to let you know that you're three of the most beautiful people in all podcasting lands.
Speaker 5I know what you're doing.
Speaker 3Hey, hey, hey. Don't do that for Parabas. You know how I like Anthony and Stephen. You know they're a lot better and I feel that they you know they have the accountability buddy section. It's a hell of a lot longer than. Don't Make it.
Speaker 2With you? Allegedly it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3This is an awkwardness of this relationship and you're going to allow them to do both. Okay, all right, whatever, finish phone call. So, um, yeah, we just wanted to tell you both all the way from out here in perfection Good luck and keep it all on the show.
Speaker 1God, I'm calling from perfection. That's a Trevor's reference. I think that was our friend Levi they have been watching or listening to like our entire catalog from the beginning.
Speaker 2And uh, yeah, levi, thank you for calling.
Speaker 1Um, that was very interesting, and I've already almost finished my whole first sunny D vodka, so thanks to you. Yeah, I was planning on pacing myself a little bit, but Levi wanted to see us get drunk today, so leave.
Speaker 2I appreciate you, buddy Big. Shout out because you're a great person. I wanted to see us get drunk today, so leave. I appreciate you, buddy Big. Shout out to tremors.
Speaker 1Yeah, check out the talking tremors podcast on YouTube, that's.
Speaker 2Levi's show. Levi, all right, this is a good time. I'm so excited. So so now, guys, daniel, if you want to be like Levi, if you want to, there it is, have your beautiful voice. Grace our airways, airwaves, airwaves.
Speaker 1Your airway is the thing you breathe through. Okay.
Speaker 4Got it.
Speaker 2Thanks a lot for.
Speaker 4Daniel.
Speaker 2You guys can go and leave us voicemail at 347 69. Weird, that's 347 699 34. And we'd love to hear from you guys. It'd be a lot of fun. We miss you. We miss all your voices, your central voices. So, guys, sean, would you, would you say the charities?
Speaker 1When I need to be yeah.
Speaker 4Oh, can you guys see the pickle now? Oh, here we go.
Speaker 2Can we see Weird when I?
Speaker 4was two. Handed that yeah.
Speaker 1Sometimes you got to use two hands.
Speaker 2Something no one's ever said to me before.
Speaker 5Oh buddy.
Speaker 2I'm going to get it with my strong hand. You know what the fuck was that, Sean? I need you to go and clip that. I remember that.
Speaker 4Okay, remember, I lost my voice and I'm still recovering from that. So that's, that's my laugh right now.
Speaker 5That was like an alien, like I can't wait to make her laugh.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm just going to head it, sean, can you just? We're going to put this right here so we can just have this added, and can you just play that again for me?
Speaker 1Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2Oh, it's just beautiful, it's just majestic. I hope that this gets added to the sound board. I think that this is a beautiful, beautiful Yep. Sorry.
Speaker 4It wasn't a winner Like you thought it was.
Speaker 2I think it's a winner and I think when the folks hear it again, like right now, they're going to agree with me that this sound is amazing. Might be my new ringtone, but anyway. So, sean, could you, could you give your friends a little thumb right up the rear end, a little crikey, and I saw a hilarious video.
Speaker 4No, I'm sorry I won't side rail us again. Go ahead.
Speaker 1I'm going to sneak up behind him and stick my finger in his bum. Crikey, that's a good one. I'm going to stick my head up there and take a look around.
Speaker 2He's going to be on his little.
Speaker 1I was asked to do story time this week and I chose a theme. So the theme of my choose your adventure was times that I got to meet a celebrity, and the winning story is called let's shake hands. So that's the story that I will tell a little bit later. Can't wait, can't wait.
Speaker 4But before that the devil Sorry.
Speaker 2But before we do that, sean, I think we got a little game that we're going to play today, buddy yeah we're going to play a new game called weird definitions.
Speaker 1You know one of the two, world association, of course, but I can't do that every time, so in this game, I'm going to mention a word that Daniel and Dina probably don't know the definition of. In fact, I would venture to guess that most people don't know the definition of these words, and they're going to go you know what that.
Speaker 2I know the definition of that. Bear well aware, sorry.
Speaker 1If I cut in and out, it's because I have a horrible cough and I'm trying to mute it when it happens. So just just bear with me here. Daniel and Dina will each make up a definition for the word and then I'll reveal the actual definition. I will award points However I see fit. It doesn't matter, they don't count for anything.
Speaker 2That's fair.
Speaker 1So let's get started, let's go. The first word is Petricor, petricor. Fuck, I've heard this word. This is not my first time hearing the word.
Speaker 2As far as the definition this, okay, let me let me make this clear. Let me make this clear.
Speaker 1You're supposed to act like. You know what it means, like a perfect let's. Let's really sell it. Okay, okay, I got.
Speaker 4I know what it means Producer Sean.
Speaker 2Oh sorry, dina, can I go first?
Speaker 4No, I was going to go first. It's talking about the petrified center of tree, like one of the petrified trees, or whatever they're called. Do they have an actual name for petrified trees? Anyway, that's the core for.
Speaker 1Yes, it's called a petrified tree.
Speaker 4It's the center for petrified trees. So, dina, this is.
Speaker 2You're close. You're close on this, but let me a man help you with the definition.
Speaker 4Okay, I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 2It is the mummified remains of a Pharaoh's penis, so it is the core of the man. So when they, you know, kind of get into the pyramids and they're looking at the burial chambers, the petrachore is often one of the most sought out elements of the antiquity process.
Speaker 1Yeah, absolutely. That's so close, except not a petrachore refers to the pleasant earthy smell after a rain. Petrachore.
Speaker 4Yeah, so the core of a rainforest is what I was talking about.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4Dina got, dina gets 300 points for that one.
Speaker 1Let's go on to the next one.
Speaker 2Okay, hold on. So the whole fucking thing that I do in my book, where whenever it's a flashback and there's the whole scene of she smells like the forest, after the I could just said petrachore the whole time. Yep, no.
Speaker 1Petrachore is is referenced to the smell.
Speaker 4Can you spell it for me?
Speaker 2P E T R I C O R E.
Speaker 1So close. P E T R I C H O R. What the fuck is there an H in there. Core I don't know why does your name have an X in it? All right, the next word is Newdiesterchen. Excuse you, sir Newdiesterchen.
Speaker 4Could you use it in a sentence?
Speaker 1I believe that that would give away the definition of the word.
Speaker 4I don't think it would. I think you should use it in a sentence, I think.
Speaker 1I think that if we were doing a spelling bee, then I would use it in a sentence Can?
Speaker 2you just say it one more time.
Speaker 1I think you guys are experts, and Daniel will tell us what the definition of Newdiesterchen is.
Speaker 2So Newdiesterchen is that? One time I got this girl, esther, naked and we kind of did it on an airplane and so it's a Newdiesterchen, sorry.
Speaker 1Let me make sure I get the pronunciation correct. Yeah, newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen. So it's a D, newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen, and is it Nancy? Newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen.
Speaker 2But, we're going to snake it studying.
Speaker 4That's talking about the pole, that keeps the earth in place. No, it's talking about the pole that keeps the earth in place because you know it's flat.
Speaker 1So, it's just sitting on it like a lollipop. Yeah, there's literally just a stick.
Speaker 2It's just one time stick. Keep it affirmative. It's a literal pole. It's a literal pole Estrogen.
Speaker 1It's the Newdiestrogen. Newdiesterchen refers to the day before yesterday, newdiesterchen.
Speaker 2No, it doesn't. Is the what? Yeah, it's the day before yesterday.
Speaker 1It's the day before yesterday Newdiesterchen, newdiesterchen. Yeah, the day before yesterday, alright.
Speaker 5I can push it.
Speaker 1That's another 752 points for Dina. She's in the lead. She did great Alright. The next word is Winkle Picker, Winkle Picker.
Speaker 4Shut up, Sean. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. What's?
Speaker 1wrong with?
Speaker 4that Language of origin, please.
Speaker 1Polish.
Speaker 2You say it one more time for me, Sean Winkle picker.
Speaker 4You say it in an Irish accent I don't do an Irish accent, british accent, so Winkle picker is what they use to shovel the gunk out of the bottom of a moose's A moose's knuckle.
Speaker 2Moose's knuckle Mises mises His hoof, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, a knuckle. Okay, moose's knuckle.
Speaker 5His hoof, his hoof, yeah, his knuckle is off the Winkle picker.
Speaker 2is it has to be penis involved? I'm sorry it's penis involved, it's not penis involved. It's fucking wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. That's when you're trying to get a little bit of the extra lint. You know how sometimes you get a little lint in your pants and then you see it kind of gets on you a little bit. You got to pick it off of your junk. So it's lint on your junk. Yeah, you have to pick off, yeah, you have to pick it up. I mean it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 4Kind of underwear are you wearing? That's not normal. Both of you assume I'm wearing any underwear.
Speaker 1There's nothing on his bottoms.
Speaker 4Check it like the soft mesh sports kind.
Speaker 2Mesh.
Speaker 4It's not like mesh mesh, but the fabric is breathable.
Speaker 2Okay, breathable fabric got you Got it.
Speaker 1Winkle picker is the style of shoe or boot in the 1950s with a sharp and long pointed toe. Winkle picker.
Speaker 4Yeah so that's the shoe that the moose wears. That's what I said.
Speaker 2She did she did say it had something to do with the F word there.
Speaker 1Yeah, she's going to keep the lead after that round, all right. The next word is a suegsang Suegswang, suegswang.
Speaker 2Sean Stop.
Speaker 1It's spelled Z U G, z W A N.
Speaker 4G. Oh, it says suegswang, Obviously, oh yeah suegswang?
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4That's a Chinese top, you know, like the spinner tops.
Speaker 5Obviously.
Speaker 1Like a dream.
Speaker 2Suegswang, suegswang, suegswang it was actually it's not actually a thing. It's a term that refers to the first song by Wang Chung. Before they did everybody Wang Chung. Tonight, they did everybody Jued Wang tonight. Suegswang, suegswang, suegswang, suegswang.
Speaker 4It's like you're not even trying. I'm not going to lie here, I'm really disappointed.
Speaker 2It's definitely music related, 100% music related.
Speaker 1Suegswang is a situation in a game of chess where the obligation to make a move in one's turn is a serious, often decisive disadvantage.
Speaker 4So I was right with the Chinese origin. Damn.
Speaker 5What.
Speaker 4What.
Speaker 1Actually, I do want to find out the real origin of this word Hold please, it has to be like German man, it's copy German, it sounds German. Suegswang, that's when you're in If this is Chinese.
Speaker 2I'm going to take my shot right now.
Speaker 1I hope it's Chinese. No, it's, it's. It's a German origin. That's correct German origin.
Speaker 2All right, I'm doing great. This is, this is going really well. I should have you know that like vocabulary is one of the like areas I tested really highly in school.
Speaker 1I'm so excited for these words. I wasn't going to do all of them, but I'm having a good time so we're going to do. I'm here for it. Um, we're going to go with Gorgonize, gorgonize.
Speaker 4Um, so do you know, what Gorgons are?
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like your Oregon, but in Gorgon.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, like the engorge.
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 2Gorgons. Yeah yeah, it's like a gigantic Oregon.
Speaker 4No, those are those um North Korean woogies. That, um, what was the word?
Speaker 1Did you say woogies?
Speaker 2Woogies, it's I would like. A definition of woogies is what I would like.
Speaker 1That's it why don't you define woogies, Daniel?
Speaker 2No a woogie. Yeah it is. Are you talking about a woogie?
Speaker 4No with a G, no a woogie Sean.
Speaker 1Sean Sean have you not done your research on?
Speaker 2your drink when she finds out this isn't a word. Can you go Google this fast? We're turning into gambling, dina's gambling now, ever since she got her taste from football. Now, now we're putting. Now we're putting wagers on our game.
Speaker 1Yeah, so a woogie, um, a woogie can be an adorable creature, cat like an appearance, or hideous brick, bricky or like, or like and prickly.
Speaker 4What.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4Just for that you're not getting a publishing deal. Fine.
Speaker 2I fucking deserve it. A woogie yeah.
Speaker 1So glad Wogy.
Speaker 2I'm Googling this. I don't trust Sean Sean, sean's on the take. The first thing that pops up is some Korean like uh, idol, I searched for woogie cryptid. Okay, okay, hold on, cause I just put woogie in and it's just all this Korean guy.
Speaker 1A woogie encounter with the SAP. What about boogie woogie bugle lever on cryptid crew?
Speaker 2Oh, a puck Woogie, a woogie, a woogie, yeah A buck woogie, no yeah.
Speaker 1I've heard a woogie encounter. A woogie is what you get when, like an ant sneezes. It's like a booger, but it's made of wood. Fine.
Speaker 2Fuck it, Anyway. What's going with that?
Speaker 4What, what, what word are?
Speaker 1we on.
Speaker 4Gorgonize.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, so.
Speaker 4Gorgon. You know what a Gorgon is? Yeah, so.
Speaker 1Totally.
Speaker 4I don't remember what I was going to say and it was really clever.
Speaker 2I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1Nailed it, Daniel. What does Gorgonize mean?
Speaker 2So the Gorgon, like Medusa are, you know, kind of like the serpent haired people that turn individuals in the stone. So this has to be something related to, you know, turning a creak, like, like crafting something into stone. So we're going to Gorgonize it.
Speaker 1Perfect. So Gorgonize means to have a paralyzing or mesmerizing effect on someone. So Dina gets a thousand points for that one, obviously.
Speaker 2Yeah, you want to know what you want to know. What's funny is? My first thing is I was going to make a joke that Gorgonizing is when my wife gives me that look. That makes me like not move and I actually would have been right had I gone with my fucking around answer.
Speaker 1Yeah, but we want fake definitions with confidence. Okay, that's what we want. Okay, the next word is snally Goster. What?
Speaker 2Harry Potter. Bullshit is this word.
Speaker 1These are all real words.
Speaker 2One more. What is this again?
Speaker 1Snally Goster.
Speaker 4What's its country of origin? Well, a snally is, that's the, that's the boot end of the trolley. No, and then a Goster is a ghost. X so X. So it's the origin of Pennsylvania, german.
Speaker 2Oh, it's like like running a train on a ghost Nice.
Speaker 1Pennsylvania. German is the word ghost train.
Speaker 4Do you know what?
Speaker 2a ghost train is yeah, when you run a train on the go it's just like a woogie.
Speaker 1Daniel snally Goster.
Speaker 2Snally Goster is when you're Amish and you have finished raising a barn for the first time and then you get completely black out drunk with your Amish homies and it's called the snally Goster. Like that's the party.
Speaker 4Can the Amish drink?
Speaker 2Only during culture is drinking.
Speaker 1No, the Amish don't drink or do drugs or anything and let until they go on there. What the fuck is it called? There's a ritual in the sabbatical Amish, in Amish tradition where, like the teenagers who are becoming adults get to leave their community and go experience like regular everyday life and usually go on a bender drugs and alcohol and sex and all that shit. I watched a documentary on it years ago.
Speaker 2Sound off in the comments. Tell me what it's called.
Speaker 1I'm not going to fucking look it up right now, because I want you to tell me what that is. And then they have to decide at the end of it if they want to go back to their Amish community.
Speaker 2It was like breaking free or something. Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 5Anyway so sorry. So what is snally Goster?
Speaker 1Go ahead and tell me that I was correct.
Speaker 2Snally Goster a person, oh, no, oh, fuck Tina, oh, no Tina. What happened what?
Speaker 1did you break I?
Speaker 2dropped my can.
Speaker 4Oh, tina.
Speaker 1Now it's going to explode when you open it. Uh huh. Snally Goster. A person, especially a politician, who is guided by personal advantage rather than by consistent, respectable principles Snally Goster.
Speaker 2Huh, only there was a politician that that.
Speaker 1We're not going to do that. The next word actually, I'm sorry, tina gets seven points for that round. Yeah, that's only seven. Yeah, the next word is uh, you guys might actually know this one. Okay, flippity jibbit.
Speaker 2The fucking character on Rick and Morty Flippity jibbit. There is definitely Flippity jibbit has been mentioned on Rick and Morty Flippity jibbit is a real word with a real definition.
Speaker 1And, tina, what is that definition?
Speaker 4That's the um Lady Liberty's uh toenails.
Speaker 2The French have been known to use Flippity jibbit every now and again. Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 4Um, but let me go ahead and as a man let me tell you why you're wrong, Okay, yeah, Um.
Speaker 2So what a Flippity jibbit is is when you're sailing and you guys, you said it when you've been out at sea for a significant period of time and you get naked and you need to make sure that you give like the jib a little extra work.
Speaker 4You know or work together. Is the jib a? Is that a pier?
Speaker 2It can be both A ship part in the pier, both what A penis and and a part of the the ship sail.
Speaker 1Okay, depends on what mood you're in. Yeah, um, that's great, daniel. Really good job. Flippity jibbit.
Speaker 4I just had a mind map.
Speaker 1Okay, so he said the sail, and then I was still thinking about the Amish.
Speaker 4But then earlier I also saw this tick, tock Um, what women did on the show survivor if they had their period. And I was like, oh and like, when I was watching that tick talk about the woman on survivor and I was like, oh, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm like about the woman on survivor. And I was also thinking about, like what women did back like in biblical times or whatever, when they just shoved Hay up there and I was like, oh, tampons, that's a sin. And then I went back to the survivor lady who used a cup and I was like, well, wait, they had to use like Hay and like cloth before. So what if you just shove the whole sale up there and like you were a pirate, like a female pirate, and then you had like a and it was just like. You know, it gave like more credence to the pirates.
Speaker 2So, Flippity Gibbet, this might have been the most mind mappiest mind map that Dina has ever taken us on. I didn't expect to end where we did with where we started. Sean Thoughts Flippity.
Weird Definitions and Apologies
Speaker 1Gibbet, a frivolous, flighty or excessively talkative person. And Daniel, you'll get the points for this one, because you're definitely a Flippity Gibbet. Yes, sir, the next word is I'm honored. Orbarigmas.
Speaker 5Go with it.
Speaker 1Orbarigmas Blue Frigno Orbarigmas.
Speaker 2Dina, would you like to go first?
Speaker 4You guys know about Never mind. That's not appropriate to say on air.
Speaker 2Nope, dina, yeah We'll bleep this out if we need to bleep this out, but I need to hear what you're going to say.
Speaker 4Can you pronounce the word again?
Speaker 1Borbarigmas.
Speaker 4Okay, so I was thinking of Borg.
Speaker 2Alright, so we'll go ahead and bleep that. We'll bleep this whole thing out and, dina Borbarigmas, we're live by the way Blue. Frigno is so disappointed in you right now, Dina. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1I just the original Hulk.
Speaker 2I'm a little sad right now with what you just said. I don't know why dolphins had to be involved. Dina, can you just go ahead and apologize?
Speaker 4I'm sorry.
Speaker 2She's sorry.
Speaker 4Really I'm sorry.
Speaker 2So sorry.
Speaker 4Oh, is this still going? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1Sorry, alright, so Borbarigmas, dina, what does Borbarigmas mean?
Speaker 4Richter Mortis.
Speaker 1Richter Mortis.
Speaker 4No, she said Richter Mortis. I remember earlier when I said I was smart.
Speaker 2Richter Mortis. Okay, go on. Yeah, so this has to do with when you try to get brussel sprouts and you put them in your socks in order to ward off evil.
Speaker 5Oh, yeah, you're right, I forgot about that.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1Borbarigmas is the rumbling sound. Your stomach makes Borbarigmas.
Speaker 2Oh, when you're in mid-shower, that makes sense. Oh my God.
Speaker 1That's called a callback everybody.
Speaker 2Got it. But, sean, how do I spell Fliberty Jibbit?
Speaker 1F-L-I-B-B-E-R-T-I.
Speaker 2Sorry, she was coughing during it. One more time F-L-I-B-B-E.
Speaker 1B-B-E R-T-I.
Speaker 2R-T-I, g-i-b, b-e-t Fliberty Jibbit.
Speaker 1Fucking hell, let's go.
Speaker 4You okay, dina, I spit out my drink.
Speaker 1Perfect, we'll do two more. You low tricus.
Speaker 2You're a you low tricus, fuck you.
Speaker 1You low tricus, you low tricus. No, you low tricus.
Speaker 4That's the root of the eucalyptus plant.
Speaker 2That's what happens when I have carnal relations with a friend's grandmother.
Speaker 1You low tricus. Treat her like a you low tricus, you low tricus. Having woolly or crispy hair, you low tricus.
Speaker 4I'm not wrong. He was close in origin.
Speaker 1I'm not wrong baby, he was pretty close. As a result, I'm going to award Dina with 785 points.
Speaker 4Thank you.
Speaker 1For our last one, our experts on words here are going to give us the definition of Agelest. Agelest.
Speaker 4That's ageism, but a person Agelest.
Speaker 2I got nothing. That's just someone who reminds you of Jar Jar Binks. They remind you of an Agelist.
Speaker 1That was a real phoned in answer there. Pal, that really was, I just fucking chew into that bad boy.
Speaker 2And yeah, that just fucking straight in there.
Speaker 1What's the real definition to Agelest Dina?
Speaker 4Oh, I already said mine Agelest.
Speaker 1That's your definition, agelest is. Agest.
Speaker 4I don't know why you got to come for me like that, Sean. Yeah, what the fuck Sean.
Speaker 5I don't know.
Speaker 1Agelest is a person who never laughs, aka Dina after Daniel tries to say something funny. And this has been Weird Definitions.
Speaker 2You fucking set me up for that one. You went all the way through just to set me up on the last word.
Speaker 1You set yourself up by not making Dina laugh.
Speaker 2No, that's fair, that's a good point. You know what? This seems as good of a time as any way to try curveball, the original barbecue whiskey.
Speaker 1Oh Lord, that's just going to taste like liquid smoke.
Speaker 2It's supposed to be sweet and smoky. God damn it. I can already tell this is going to suck. Why'd you smell it?
Speaker 4That's what she said. I'm going to get one.
Speaker 2There's my cue.
Speaker 4That's just so much.
Speaker 1Not really. It's only like 50 milliliters or something.
Speaker 4Is that how much a shot is?
Speaker 1Oh shots usually an ounce to an ounce and a half, but those little bottles are measured in liters.
Speaker 4You're using two different measurements here, Sean.
Speaker 5Yeah, so how? And I didn't come up with this system. 50 ml.
Speaker 2Thanks. How many ounces is that? Oh Jesus Christ? Yeah, Sean, to the ounce, I'm hurt 50 ml. Oh God, that aftertaste is so bad. Also, that's what she said, 50 ml Also, I thought.
Speaker 4I thought a shot was two ounces.
Speaker 1One and a half ounces and 50 ml, which is what's in that tiny bottle, is 1.69 ounces. Nice, nice, nice.
Speaker 4What? Oh, maybe it just seems like so much more because it's like gurgling down the neck.
Speaker 5Yeah, that felt very sexual. God damn, it Didn't have a choice there.
Speaker 2Didn't have a choice there. You know what guys we've been edging long enough. I think that that Sean needs to deliver. No, all right, I need you to give me the Dutch rudder here, buddy, it's time.
Speaker 1You want to double check the rundown pal?
Speaker 2No, no, I do not, I just want to do it.
Speaker 5We just I did not. Yeah, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1So you guys, we're going to discuss collaboration in writing today, and Daniel's very well prepared for that, yeah, as someone who's collaborated with Dina on a number of erotic scenes in her books. So I feel like they're a good duo to talk about this topic. So we're going to discuss the benefits and challenges of collaborating with other writers, editors or artists.
Speaker 2So let me just start out. Dina, what's it like to write sex scenes with me?
Speaker 4Are we doing a bit or like joining, to be serious?
Speaker 5This is the discussions that hurt, so let's be serious.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're serious right now, Dina.
Speaker 4It was eye opening and I learned a lot.
Speaker 2Would you say it was a positive experience, dina, would you? Would you do it again?
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 2But you already have Dina. She's already gone. Yes, yeah, we've done it. We've done it twice already, dina, it is.
Speaker 4I'm not going to bail you out of this. This is a thing. I needed a man and I am not afraid to admit I am a tradwife and I needed a man.
Speaker 2I've needed a man.
Speaker 2Okay, jokes aside, as much as I like grilling Dina on this, one of the most beneficial things about you know, we always joke around about our little sync pickle mob, which is our kind of writing group within a group, and sync pickleby praise shout out Shannon.
Speaker 2One of the things that's really beneficial, even though a lot of us just kind of giving each other a lot of shit, is that it really does help with perspective and we can give a specific scene where I can give, you know, something to Dean or something to Shannon and say, hey, listen, I know I'm a dumb caveman. Um, how how can I make this? You know, not be offensive. You know I don't want to write as much as maybe that's how my stupid dumb male mind works. Or I'm like and girl took off shirt and she showed her boobies and the boobies were awesome. Doesn't really translate well to the written word. And so having you know people that you can kind of co-write with, edit with that are kind of like that, understand you really does help make a difference because it does give a more balanced perspective both for male and female writing, I think.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think perspective is key there, because a lot of times, as much as we try to be aware and have as much knowledge as we can possibly attain, like, but we can't always live somebody else's experiences and we can't know, like, what they're thinking or what their POV would be. So it's very important to have those other people that you can rely on to give you other insight as well.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I think that you know it is hard to kind of share what we think our novel creative ideas, but I think within reason, having those outside people to collaborate with make a big difference, because sometimes you get so stuck in your own head and there's been so many things where you know when I first was right, I first was writing or editing, I'm like this is a good line, this is a fucking good passage.
Speaker 2And then you know you get that second person that starts, you know, either as a beta reader or an editor, and they look at it and they go what the fuck are you trying to say here? This is awkward and clunky as shit and you need that outside voice that kind of helps you with that. And I think that taking that feedback is one of the hardest things to do, because you kind of fall in love with little bits of your writing. And I think there's examples out there, especially in the past, where people soloed a book completely by themselves and had zero input and just released a fucking bestseller. But like I don't think that anyone writes a book solo nowadays not a good one, you know.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think you always have to have that sort of sounding board and, like, in order to make the most of those collaborations, you need to be able to be, like, totally open to other people's feedback and be willing. Like, if you're going to come to somebody and ask for help and ask for their perspective, you have to be open to it. You can't be resistant the second they give you what you're asking for. You have to try to put yourself in their shoes and set yourself aside.
Speaker 2And, you know, kind of piggybacking off of that. One of, I think, the most difficult things is that you know, people think that if you get a beta reader or get feedback on your story, they think that it kind of ends there you either incorporate it or you don't. But what would you say, dina, that like the importance of how you can communicate with whether it's an editor or a beta reader. What are some mistakes people make in terms of that communication? Thank you.
Speaker 4I think that would have to be like a personal preference but, like the vast majority of writers that I know of, have a by Daniel Hi. What the?
Speaker 2hell just happened. I was trying to rearrange and then I hit a wire. And listen, mistakes were made.
Speaker 4The vast majority of writers that I know they hate when beta readers comment back and forth within a document. That's a pet peeve of mine as well, except I will say I do appreciate commenting back and forth in the document under the comments with an editor with a lot of like with beta readers. I hate communicating in the document because once I'm done writing it I'm not going to open it up again because I'm not your editor. I'm a beta reader. I read it once. That's just my preference.
Speaker 2Yeah, so the response to and that makes sense. I think that you're right. Everyone has different communication preferences and needs. So I think that before you go into beta reading, or even when you get with your editor for the first time because thankfully I got to work with three different editors and everyone has a little bit of a different style it was like six, but go on.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was like seven, but it like for me. Personally, I'm the same way where, if I see your comment, I'll either incorporate it or I won't. But if it needs a follow-up, then I'd just rather text and be like hey, so you said this, but I thought that you know what I mean, and then you just take it offline and then discuss it there, versus just going back and forth because it feels like super passive, aggressive.
Speaker 4It is passive, aggressive and it's also just a very slow form of communication, because I'm not going to sit there with your, especially if it's not my document. I'm not going to sit there with your document open. Once I read it, I'm done.
Speaker 2Yeah, and let's shift gears a little bit, because you for a while and I know that you're hoping to pick back up your plant story, where you've been co-writing some stories with other authors. What's that experience like? Because that's not something I've personally done, but I'm definitely open-minded to trying at some point.
Speaker 4So I've actually I am planning on co-writing a novel with somebody once I finish writing Book Three. And I've actually co-written sort of co-written with Thomas, anthony Lay previously Red God, hey, babe and also with Shannon and several other female writers on a group novel. And with Tom we did the same thing. We just communicated offline and then we would add notes into the document and then talk about it offline. It was easy to work one-on-one but we both got busy so we dropped that project. Working with a group of three other authors though with that one was Shannon that was a lot and it took a lot of collaboration. And it took we had to make a document like a Google Doc assigning parts, and literally all of us would edit the Google Doc to outline this novel and what we were going to do and collaborate our ideas, and you would just see strings of messages that we would have to later go back and organize. It was a lot.
Speaker 2Okay, and that makes a lot of sense. So I think that I guess for me, the ending thing is that it all comes down to not just communicating, because that's the easy answer but knowing the ways that both Not only you want to be communicated with, but the people you're working with want to be communicated with is finding that style and system that works for you guys, because I don't think that any sort of collaboration on something like this works unless you can be completely transparent and open and honest. You have to check your ego at the door a little bit.
Speaker 4Yeah, we went through several different methodologies on that big group collaboration to try to figure out what was best for us. Because we started off messaging, because all of us are message, we message people. We don't talk in the document and we thought that that would work. But with a bigger group it didn't, so we had to go to a separate document just to communicate what was going to happen in that book, and I really want to do it again.
Speaker 2It was a lot of fun, and so I guess I think that that's the key there is that I think that the passion projects in general probably kind of roll solo, like if you got the book of your heart not saying you can't collaborate with people on that because the world is full of exceptions to rules and everyone's different. But your personal passion project is probably one you want to keep to yourself. But what it sounds like and stop me if I'm wrong is that the fun projects, the kind of more creative, interesting, maybe weirder stuff, is what would probably be a good collaboration candidate.
Speaker 4Yeah, Like the obscure things that you don't usually do, but I'm also thinking about the I Am Number Four series and how the two. It was written by two people and they broke up the Tecasselor. Yeah, they assigned, like one of them gave over the rights to the other and like he kept writing. I'm wondering, like, the ins and outs of that, because that's a very popular series, it's big. It's huge, it's long. That's what she said.
Speaker 2That's what she said. There we go, and that's the perfect thing to end it on right there.
Speaker 4So you know I wasn't done. Wait, I was in the middle of a fucking thought.
Speaker 2Okay, that seems like an ending to me.
Speaker 4So, like, obviously they started together. So I want to know, like, the ins and outs of like where the fallout occurred in that. That would be interesting to know. Okay, now I'm done.
Speaker 2It wouldn't have been cool if, like, we've gotten one of the authors on the show and like talked with us. Like that would have been so cool, like maybe we should reach out to him sometime, right, sean yeah totally.
Speaker 1And maybe they'll ghost us after watching or listening to an episode. Also, daniel, totally classic. You do not know when a woman's done.
Speaker 2Jokes aside, I do this to Miriam all the time. She puts these big pauses in her statements so like we'll be talking on the phone and then she'll. They'll be like dead air and I'm like, oh okay, this sentence is finished. All right, I'll talk to you later. And then she's like why are you rushing me off the phone? I thought you were done.
Speaker 4Silence is so great, you should try listening. So we're all about storytelling here and, as such, we try to share a fun story each week. So, without further ado, it's story time with producer Sean.
Speaker 2All right, so we're going to go back to the story.
Speaker 1It was the resurgence of what became to be known as garage rock. There was a lot of young rock bands coming out around the same time that we're kind of using like really gritty, like not overproduced sound, really like wild style of rebellious rock and roll. The hives come to mind, strokes, jet comes to mind. I don't know, the killers maybe could be thrown in there. Yeah, a little more electronically. I know that that fits in that era. There was a band at the time that really caught my attention, a two piece band called the White Stripes.
Speaker 5Oh, that's so weird.
Speaker 1I had heard their single, fell in love with a girl when they performed it live on the MTV Video Music Awards, which was a thing kids, 20 years ago.
Speaker 2So they played music videos on.
Speaker 1TV and they had musical artists perform and I was so blown away by the fact that it was just two musicians together a guitarist who sang as well and then a drummer. But it was just so high energy and the performance was amazing and they had like 100 people that all wore white and red, like candy stripes was their thing. So everything was white, red and black. It was all a pure like aesthetic. Anyway, I was in a band and one day in the garage when we were playing, I decided to just start playing, fall in Love with a Girl by the White Stripes, and our drummer, emily, started playing along and we had a really good time. So we decided to start covering their music. Fast forward, we find out they're coming to the Warfield in San Francisco, which is like my favorite venue, to Little Theater I don't know how many seats, but not many. It's like a really old venue too, so it's like that really cool architecture to it. All. General admission, and I swear it was like 20 bucks a ticket or something and they came two nights in a row. So that's what she said they played two nights in a row. This was 2003, I believe, and we got tickets for both shows when we got there we saw their bus or their car like outside of the side entrance, which is like the stage side entrance, and we were like maybe we should hang out after the show. We could possibly meet them. So we saw the show. They ripped into the first song, let's Shake Hands. I'll never forget it. Amazing show. They played like 30 songs. It was so good, we bought merch it was incredible Decided to go outside and wait after the show, just hoping that they would come out and we could get a chance to meet them.
Speaker 1I didn't really care about getting a photo or anything. Plus, cell phone cameras really sucked back then. So if you wanted a good photo you had to bring a real camera, like a digital, like a point and shoot camera or like one of those disposable ones. So we're waiting outside for a long time there was other people waiting too. They kind of ended up leaving.
Speaker 1It's probably two hours into it and someone comes up to us from the general area of the side entrance and he's like hey, you guys trying to meet the light stripes, like yeah, and he says, listen, the security in there. They can be bribed pretty easy. Give me like 10 bucks, I'll go over there, I'll see if we can get you in. I was like I don't have cash. But Emily had cash so she gave the dude 10 bucks. He walks over to the door, knocks on it. He's having a conversation with them. We're like 10, 15 feet away, so we really know what's happening and the dude just walks away with the money. Ah boy, dude had nothing to do with the venue. He just was trying to get money out of some fucking naive kids. I should say we were like 17 at the time.
Speaker 1So like not very weathered, not very experienced. They didn't end up coming out. We're like we'll try again tomorrow. Again, the show was great. The next day Incredible, showed up early, enjoyed the show and waited outside and finally, when we were just about to give up, the door opens and Jack White and Meg White walk out. I was ecstatic. All I wanted was to shake their hands and tell them oh, much of that.
Speaker 1I loved my ex at the time. She was carrying our t-shirts and she got her signed by Jack and Meg. I took some photos with Emily and them and I just said I just want to shake your hand and tell you I love your music. We play your music in our garage all the time. It's a great time. They were both very nice. It was an incredible meeting. Afterwards my ex realized she got my shirt signed instead of hers by mistake, because we both got to see each other. So I have since framed that. I worked in a frame shop a few years later in my life and I have that framed with the ticket stubs. It's one of my prized possessions and this is a bonus story because there's another celebrity encounter that's related. A few months later, they came back and played the Berkeley Greek theater which is at UC Berkeley in California Incredible venue it's like it looks like a miniature Greek Coliseum, basically, again, show is incredible.
Speaker 1We're all filing out to leave at the end of the night and I look over to my left and Jason Lee is there. Jason Lee, the actor From Mallrats. My name is Earl. He's a huge Kevin Smith fan. So I was like holy shit, it's Jason Lee. So I like ran over there and I was like dude, jason Lee, my name's Sean, I'm a huge fan and I went to shake his hand and he said this bump only man. And I fist bumped him and I said, don't worry, I'm not going to stink palm. Yeah, and if you've seen Mallrats you can get the reference. Anyway, he was really great and I think like a second after that a bunch of other people realized Jason Lee was there and kind of rushed over. I guess he was a big fan of the band and just wanted to see him live. That's badass. So I got to meet the band and then a couple months later I got to meet Jason Lee, all because of the band and listen for folks at home that have had been following our show.
Speaker 2if you guys are the hardcore supporters, you know that one of my story times is about the time that I started a white stripes cover band, which was a really a Sean story.
Speaker 5I still have.
Speaker 1That was on True.
Speaker 2Confessions yeah, that's right. I still have all the white line song on my iPad, ipad iPod.
Speaker 1Yeah, we called our band the white lines because it sounded like the white stripes and it was a reference to cocaine, which we didn't do cocaine, but we thought it was cool to sound like we did cocaine.
Speaker 2So, sean, I hope, do you still have your own recordings? Like, could you send a little bit, all right? Well then, I'm going to go ahead and plug my iPod up to the laptop and see if I can send you over.
Speaker 1You've been telling me that for years, but yeah, that's how I met the white stripes I took notes, I took notes.
Speaker 2Okay, okay, you know 20 bucks a ticket.
Speaker 4That's like $200 back then because you're so old.
Speaker 1Oh, that's, correct.
Speaker 4Boom Roasted, boom 20 years ago that's older than me Boom.
Speaker 2Roasted.
Speaker 4Who doesn't carry cash back then. They didn't even have credit cards back then.
Speaker 1Boom Roasted.
Speaker 4Are you telling me that this bitch didn't get both of your shirts signed? She only got like she thought she only got her shirts signed. What the fuck Are?
Speaker 1you kidding me? If I remember correctly, she asked me if I wanted to get mine signed and I said I didn't really care about getting it signed, I just wanted to shake their hands and I also wanted to wear the shirt and I wouldn't have worn it if it was signed. And I never did wear it because it was signed.
Speaker 2So fair enough. Yeah, that makes sense, but these are all great questions and I agree, keep them coming.
Speaker 4Yeah, keep them good, I don't have any more questions. Thank you. Seven or eight more?
Speaker 2questions please. This just made me so happy that that was the song that I picked for this episode. Yeah, tell them over.
Speaker 1the girl is the first song that I ever heard by the White Stripes, and Daniel used it in my intro and he didn't know that. This is the story I was going to tell today.
Speaker 2He just did it because he knows that I like the White Stripes. Oh wait, really. Yeah, I had no idea. This isn't a story that I've heard from Sean before.
Speaker 4Oh, I thought this was a bit.
Speaker 2No, no, 100% dude. This was just. I picked a song that reminded me of Sean, which was the White Stripes, because of the White Stripes cover band he did, and yeah, true.
Speaker 4Yeah, I should get married or something. That's cute, I know.
Speaker 1So, Dina, while you furiously score to score, scroll to your notes and your phone. Why don't we give the opportunity to our audience to choose next story time with Dina Soros?
Speaker 4It would be so nice of us if we did that for our audience and allowed them to pick a story time that they were interested in hearing, because there's just so many and like I, couldn't pick for them.
Speaker 2You're doing such a good job of killing time. You're doing so good. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4It would just be like you know this is a democracy, and one thing that I stand for is democracy, and that's why we set up the show.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're the democracy. Yeah, because I mean, you know what?
Speaker 4a filibuster.
Speaker 1Let's talk about filibusters for the next year.
Speaker 4I just think that that Parks and Rec episode really opened my eyes to politics and that's why the next story time, or choose your own adventure segment that you guys can pick from is a real liberty to it right now.
Speaker 1A snally Guster, I think is what you meant.
Speaker 2A real snally Guster.
Speaker 4My first bar, the horse ranch and the stolen lawn ornament.
Speaker 2Hmm, John.
Speaker 1So Kelly likes the stolen lawn ornament. I don't know if you heard her in the background, yeah, no.
Speaker 2I'm with you on stolen law and ornament Like. That's where my gut leads me, but I also can't stop thinking about H words.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like we're going to have to prepare to get really drunk when she tells the horse ranch story. You know our audience is going to pick that for that reason. So let's not even you know holding punches.
Speaker 2Yeah, audience, do the right thing. Do the right thing for our livers. Okay, we deserve this. You know I'm excited. I'm excited to get back on the story time. It's going to be a beautiful one. But you want to know what I'm most excited about, guys. I'm excited because I'm going to give you guys a little bit of a thing before we do this one. I've been holding on to one winner. You're dick 2003.
Speaker 4Oh, it's not a winner.
Speaker 2It's not a winner. Yeah, it was, and we've done every single cringy copulation that literally views ever done, except for this one because it's got some questionable content. And I can't wait to go on this journey with us as we get into the 2003 winner, because, you see, every week we celebrate some of the worst erotic literature in history, as select by literally review a British literary magazine in the segment that we call Cringy copulation. These are real excerpts from real books intended to be taken seriously. This week's excerpt will be read by Dina and is from the 2003 winner of the Bad Sex and Fiction Award, bunker 13, by Andruta Bahal. Andruta Bahal, andruta Bahal. I see.
Speaker 5Get a B with that. Say it again, say it again. Get it, andruta, get it.
Speaker 2He's a founder and editor-in-chief of Cobra Post, an Indian news website. Prior to founding Cobra Post, he also co-founded DeHelka.
Speaker 5DeHelka baby. Oh yeah, I found a piece of paper, dina check out the DMs.
Speaker 2If that's a steamy shower voice, Dina, it's time to bring it back. Get hot with it.
Speaker 4I don't know how to say that word.
Speaker 1Blackbirds, it's blackbirds, not that word it's blackbirds.
Speaker 2It's blackbirds, just go for it. Dina, don't read ahead. You know the rules.
Speaker 4Her breasts are placards for the endomorphically endowed Nailed it In spite of yourself. A soft whistle of air escapes you Like a quiff. Is she talking about a quiff?
Speaker 1Let's save the commentary.
Speaker 2Yeah, cute. Yeah, please don't have a tutorial on that.
Speaker 4In spite of yourself, a soft whistle of air escapes you. She's taking off her trousers now. Oh, I need to read this in a British accent. They are a heap on the floor. The panties are white and translucent. You can see the dark hair sticking to them. Inside there's a design as well. You gasp, what's that? You ask. You see a designer. Let's see Hair razored and ordered in the shape of a swastika. Hair razored and ordered in the shape of a swastika, the Aryan denominator. As your hands roam her back, her breasts and traced the swastika on her mound, you start feeling like an ancient Aryan warlord yourself. She sandwiches your nozzle between her tits, massaging it with a slow rhythm. A trailer to bookmark the events ahead. I don't want to know what the events are For now. She has taken you in her lovely mouth. Her palms are holding her neck and thumbs are at her ears, regulating the speed of her head as she swallows and then sucks up your machinery.
Speaker 2I missed you guys. So much.
Speaker 1That was the excerpt just from the same year that I met the White Stripes.
Speaker 2We're on point For the record. This is Indian swastika, very different than Nazi swastika, Still the same symbol.
Speaker 4What is it? It's the same symbol.
Speaker 2Same symbol, but Indian Hinduism has a completely different meaning behind it. It's actually an important part of the culture. Nazi Germany stole that shit and then corrupted that shit and made it terrible.
Speaker 4Yes, Okay, a question what is a designer?
Speaker 2Pusse, Pusse. I assume that means that whenever you shave your pubic hair into a specific you put a little extra effort into the artistry of your. She sandwiches your nozzle, yeah, so it's kind of like those copies.
Speaker 4Like a gasoline nozzle.
Speaker 2Yeah, they make designs on your latte. It's kind of like that I love that journey.
Speaker 1It's like when they put a swastika on your latte, yeah, so you could be.
Speaker 2She's cursed Like I didn't know that was going to be my nightmare, but as a Jewish guy, that would be. My nightmare is getting off Amorous with a lady and you just pull off her underwear and you're like oh fuck, there's so much detail into the hair sticking to the underwear Doesn't matter how it sucks.
Speaker 4It matters, I'm never going to. I'm going to pass everybody on the street and be like Is your? Are you shaved with a swastika?
Speaker 1He drew hammer at designer pussy. Do you have to have that designer pussy?
Speaker 4Wink, wink. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2Just next time you're having like a girl's night, like having a pillow fight and all that stuff, just ask, you know, just be like hey, don't they all just have you ever had a pillow fight?
Speaker 4I have not.
Speaker 2Of course I have. Yeah, what the fuck, dina?
Speaker 4Well, I mean my brother has like body, slam me and knock me out with a pillow, but like no, we beat the shit out of each other with pillows, dude, yeah.
Speaker 2And a sock full of quarters it's a real good time. Yeah, it's a really good time, Sean. What were your thoughts on the hot, sexy reading that we just had?
Speaker 1I like how like it wasn't designed to be the Aryan denominator. But the male in this scenario thought it was. And not only was he not like put off by it, it like turned him on more.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was my favorite part.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a good part, I'm glad Dina any final thoughts on this blatant bit of sexual.
Speaker 1Blatant bit of sexual. Yeah, that's the end of a sentence.
Speaker 2I've had fucking barbecue, whiskey and sour pickle vodka.
Speaker 4And Sunny D Vodka. The fuck, where did you get that? What the fuck.
Speaker 1It's Jar, Jar Binks.
Speaker 4Oh my God people should put that on their peens. It's.
Speaker 1Jar Jar Binks. It's way too small for that dear, but it's not too small for me, sean, it's a good idea.
Speaker 4I'll send it to you buddy Daniel would make it work. I wonder if they make those for. Sorry.
Speaker 1They do make pierner costumes, like I've seen it.
Speaker 4I've seen the elephant ones or whatever yeah.
Speaker 5What the?
Speaker 2Is that what Tim does for you? Is that date night? Nope, that's weird. He dresses it up.
Speaker 1Daniel puts an oyster costume on his Is this saying on it's like the little pearl in the oyster. Alright, Daniel, why don't you tell the folks where they can leave us a voicemail One more time?
Speaker 2If you guys have thoughts on designer pussays or you know, sean and the White Stripes or Sean's luscious, luscious, luscious. This worked well.
Speaker 4We're making up your words today.
Speaker 2Yeah, luscious, beautiful full-body lips. Then please leave us a voicemail. 347169 weird, that's 34769934.
Speaker 1Alright, he was talking about my labia, four lips.
Speaker 5Always have labia.
Speaker 4Confirmed.
Speaker 2Confirmed. Yeah, we also have that time of the month too. That's pretty common with men.
Speaker 4That I actually do know. Thank you.
Speaker 2Yeah, but Dina, if the folks want to find you and send you like hot and sensual DMs, where should they find you on social media?
Speaker 4$20 for a DM $20 to DM. You can find me on X at DinosaurusD at Steelight Beach, nuts D.
Speaker 2And producer Sean.
Speaker 1Where can the folks find you bud. You can find me on Xcom at Shaysoldo which end for dinner, my bud. I made some marinated skirt steak and asparagus Skirt skirt.
Speaker 2You can see that If you say a little slower, more sensual, skirt skirt, no bud, that's even better. You can find me on Twitter. Cause fuck X at DanQWrightSping. That's DanQWrightSping, singular, danqwrightsping, danqwrightsping. You're fucking Kelly coming in off the top row. For the background. She said bank. That's rude. That's rude. Executive producer Kelly. That's rude. But yeah, you can find me on there and you can also check out my website, sean. What's my website?
Speaker 1That's dumps4dankcom, d-u-m-p-s, the number four, d-a-n-qcom.
Speaker 2Thank you Perfect. Alright, guys, until next week, cause we're coming back at you longer, stronger and full of D-U-M-P-S.
Speaker 1D-U-M-P-S. Full of Zugsvang.
Speaker 2It's full of Zugsvang baby, we are so full of Zugsvang up in here. We love you guys all Can't wait to see you guys again next week.
Speaker 3Jazz hands.
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