SOMETHING SPECIAL by Dina S. LIVE Release Party!

What if you could unlock the secrets behind crafting a page-turning fantasy novel? Our latest episode of the Don't Make It Weird podcast is a celebration like no other, featuring the brilliant author Dinasaurus and the highly-anticipated release of her second book in the Discerners Trilogy, "Something Special." From humorous apologies to our non-human listeners to teasing Dina about needing to text her husband mid-show, we keep the laughs coming while exploring the creative process behind her stunning book cover and toasting with Mountain Dew hard seltzers.

Buckle up for a night of unpredictable fun as we pivot into an action-packed game night, complete with Disney trivia, technical glitches, and even a surprise book giveaway! Dina and Daniel’s competitive spirit shines in our “Discern the Emoji” segment, where their hilarious attempts to act out emojis will have you in stitches. Plus, heartfelt voicemails from fans and a surprise raffle keep the energy high and the atmosphere electric throughout the night.

As the evening settles into deeper conversations, we journey through themes of friendship, love, and emotional growth within the Discerners Trilogy. Dina opens up about character development, grief, and acceptance, giving us a behind-the-scenes look at her writing process. We even speculate on endgame theories and reveal some exciting Easter eggs hidden in the series. Wrapping up with an interactive Q&A and heartfelt thank-yous, this episode is a whirlwind of laughter, camaraderie, and the magic of storytelling. Don’t miss this unforgettable celebration!

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:03

welcome to the don't make it weird podcast. We are your writing storytelling comedy podcast for humans, by humans and guys. We are live and I am joined as always, by the sexy, seductive, steadfast sultan of swagger himself, producer sean. What's up, buddy?

Speaker 2 0:26

how's it going? Everybody, we're here for the live release party.

Speaker 1 0:29

Let's go let's go and you know what I can. I can. I apologize really fast, sean can I just do you want to? Apologize. Yeah, can I? I'd like to apologize real quick to all the non-humans watching our show. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 0:47

He's sorry.

Speaker 1 0:48

I didn't mean that you couldn't watch our show. Vampires were wolves, not vampires. But everyone else. You guys are welcome. We want you to be here and we're very, very sorry for excluding you. So sorry, but you want to know what I'm not sorry about, producer Sean. We are here for something amazing man. We are here for the second coming of the greatest literary novel of all time, and I don't believe in hyperbole. Tonight's guest of honor is a multi-talented powerhouse an award-winning author, a mother, a podcaster, a proud Ravenclaw, a championship sharpshooter, a master of American sign language and the chief administrative officer at lost boys press. When she's not wrangling her own two mischievous Basenji's or driving her husband to the brink of madness, she's obsessing over all things teal. Her much awaited sequel, something special, book two of the discerners trilogy, which is absolutely not an autobiography, is out now, and we could be more proud or excited to celebrate this milestone with her. Please give a warm welcome to our best friend, the, the sutilating simulacrum of sensitive, seren-sumptuous serenity, who's always something special.

Speaker 3 1:58

Dinosaurus.

Speaker 4 2:01

He reached so far like he was trying to shoot for the stars there and just like totally totally flubbed it.

Speaker 1 2:09

That was a good intro though, guys, thanks, it was a good start. I felt I felt good about it. Oh, jesus man, I I'm so excited, dina, we're back here, we're celebrating you. How does it feel?

Speaker 4 2:22

pretty good, pretty good. Um, can somebody text my husband and tell him that the dogs ate? I can't reach my phone and he just texted me asking.

Speaker 1 2:31

Yeah, yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 4 2:32

Now that I've met him multiple times.

Speaker 1 2:34

Yeah, yeah. We can send that text. Thanks, definitely, definitely. We'll remember. And for the audio, only listeners who may be listening to be reading listen to this later. You're gonna miss out on a lot of visual stuff. So just head over to our youtube channel. Just just go watch us on youtube. Dina's fully naked right now. It's awesome.

Speaker 4 2:49

We support her being in her birthday suit for this show uh, and if you're watching us on tiktok right now, you can head on over to youtube to you know, see the full experience. That's right, thank you.

Speaker 1 2:59

yeah, it's gonna be amazing, um, but can we, can we go over something here? Because I feel like we got the title wrong, right, sean, because it's not something special. No, it is two, something two special the Dinosaurus Chronicles.

Speaker 2 3:20

That's right, something like that.

Speaker 1 3:21

You're so real for that. We're so real? Do we have the real cover pulled up?

Speaker 2 3:26

Because we've been bamboozling you guys for a while with these big covers at the bottom here We've been bamboozling you.

Speaker 1 3:32

On the left corner of your screen you can see the regular alleged regular cover. On the other side you can see the alleged hardcover special edition. Both, beautiful Dina, who did these facsimiles of your real cover?

Speaker 4 3:49

uh, what's a facsimile? Oh, my god thanks okay, um, I don't know how to answer that question. Emily's world of design did the hardcover. Is that what you're asking? And then I that's what he's asking. Well, me and Tilly and Ashley actually worked on the regular cover, okay, okay, I mean they are beautiful, beautiful covers.

Speaker 1 4:14

Nothing wrong with them. But, sean, I believe we have the real cover.

Speaker 2 4:16

Shit. Okay. Well, I forgot to prepare for this, so I'm scrambling right now.

Speaker 1 4:25

We can talk about what we're drinking tonight, guys, because I want to fill up. Yes, we can. Yeah, let's fill up the cup. What are we drinking tonight, dina?

Speaker 2 4:29

I forgot ice shit tonight time hey, rance gave us permission to use this, so we're going to use it it's completely original tonight.

Speaker 4 4:44

Sean, let me pick out what we're gonna try for our weird drink segment, because it's my birthday and it's my cut. Well, it's soon to be my birthday and it's my cover release so or not? Cover release my book.

Speaker 1 4:55

It's your birthday week basically month, birthday week, yeah.

Speaker 4 4:59

So we're gonna try mountain dew, hard seltzers and.

Speaker 3 5:03

I'm going with Baja Blaster I have.

Speaker 2 5:07

Baja Blast Punch right now and I'm actually drinking it out of my special edition.

Speaker 3 5:14

Go to.

Speaker 4 5:15

WeMakeCupscom fora custom Tumblr, if you guys want.

Speaker 1 5:21

And I'm definitely drinking the same thing as the rest of them Definitely didn't screw this up at all.

Speaker 2 5:27

How do you suck so?

Speaker 3 5:28

bad.

Speaker 2 5:30

His local liquor store sucks dude.

Speaker 1 5:32

Yeah, I, literally. We have one in the entire state of Georgia, just one between me and my mom's house, oh my god. And so, listen, I got Red Stripe Rum Punch. It's made with caribbean rum and mango juice and sparkling water and other natural flavors.

Speaker 2 5:51

it's basically the same thing tell him, shannon, okay, I'm gonna add this to the scene. Um, thanks to the uh cheers everybody. Thanks to the, the glory that is uh and, by the way, our friend levi uh and support amazing friend levi did some pretty awesome photoshopped covers some fan art for dina on amazing covers um check those out. But this is this is the the real theatrical cover yeah, the real, the real cut.

Speaker 1 6:24

uh, uh-huh. Okay, very proud of this hard work that we put into this. That definitely didn't just fuck around in five minutes. But, dina, while Sean's pulling that up, I want you to know, in honor of Nathaniel, I got as an apology some Bermuda Black Rum.

Speaker 4 6:42

Oh, cute Is that.

Speaker 1 6:45

so Bermuda, it's oh cute, yeah, oh.

Speaker 4 6:46

Bermuda, it's significant Okay.

Speaker 1 6:47

Yep, and then, on top of that, I got the pickle shot as my punishment for not getting the correct drink.

Speaker 4 6:54

Shannon's in the chat shuddering right now.

Speaker 1 6:57

Here we go, here it is oh yeah, oh my God, this is incredible.

Speaker 2 7:03

Yes, thanks to the glory of ChatGPpt's image generation pamsley bennett. Yeah, pamsley bennett's in there um love, magic and tragic is the tag, and tragic and a whole lot of drama is also the tagline and also and a whole lot of blue nathaniel for some reason

Speaker 4 7:24

I love that for him. That's kind of fitting for his personality to censor all chronicles which is that like a school? Is that a college in?

Speaker 2 7:34

the background. That's columbia, isn't. It isn't. That's columbia university. I don't know.

Speaker 4 7:38

I've never been there. Anybody that reads this book is gonna be like, yeah, this witch has never stepped foot on Columbia campus before.

Speaker 3 7:45

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 7:49

I could map that place out like the back of my hand at this point, like I did my research, but yeah, I've never been there.

Speaker 1 7:57

Listen and that's all right. There's nothing wrong with that and we're proud of it. So Two Something Too Special is out now and, as of yesterday, you can buy it anywhere where books are sold amazon, barnesandnoblecom, like you can go on lost boys press website uh, lots of options here. Dina, talk, talk us through your emotions right now. This is your second big release. We're getting back to cerner's feel.

Speaker 4 8:25

I need you to feel, dina yeah, um, it feels great to be able to celebrate and not be pregnant.

Speaker 2 8:31

That's cool cheers to that no, this, yeah, cheers.

Speaker 4 8:39

It feels pretty cool that, um, I got to continue this series when I never thought that Nothing Special would be a whole series. I never thought that I was actually going to successfully have a trilogy coming out. I mean, that's pretty dope right.

Speaker 1 8:56

Yeah, that's incredible, and I heard it's on the rundown, so I don't know if you're willing to say it yet, but I heard there's already a title for book three, for anyone that wants to get out ahead of it. Are we discussing this?

Speaker 4 9:06

oh, I mean I guess we can't set it on the show before yeah, it's not even written, though, like I still don't know if I'm gonna finish it.

Speaker 2 9:13

Everything special is book three everything special out, sometime finish it because I just read book two and I'm I'm like oh, did you?

Speaker 1 9:22

finish. Yeah, yeah, hold on, hold on, that's spoilers. We're going to get to that. We're going to get to that because I know exactly, heather.

Speaker 4 9:33

This drink is disgusting and I'm very disappointed it tastes like a hangover.

Speaker 1 9:38

It tastes like. Is that because you are still hung over, though? Like like? That's the question. Probably, man. We are so excited about this release. Guys, as always, we are going to be giving out prizes, we're going to be giving out copies of the book, we're going to be drinking and having a great time, and we got a couple of games that we're going to be playing this time, but we got a lot of friends in the audience Sean, who's joining us so far.

Speaker 2 10:04

All right, let this time. But uh, we got a lot of friends in the audience. Sean, who's joining us so far? All right, let's see who's in the chat. Y'all, of course we have our friend shannon sink. Picklebee, praise um shout out. Oh my god, I'm gonna get this right. Levi, our friend and supporter, levi bersloff lut and they specifically said it's lut like slut. Levi bersloff, thank you for joining us today. Um, let's see, we have issues. Anthony laFousey's in the chat. Everybody, we love that man, hi, anthony.

Speaker 3 10:28

Antoine Starpuncher. Okay, wait, I was just going to say.

Speaker 4 10:36

I was filling out all the envelopes and everything and shipping books out yesterday and I almost put Antoine Starpuncher on his book and I was like his mail lady is going to like that would 100% get seized by the USPS, I think. Yeah, Okay, go ahead Siri.

Speaker 2 10:53

Our friend Daniel Ruth is in the chat. Hi, daniel Ruth. Who else is here? Rebecca Mickelson. Hi Becky, we love you. Thank you for coming by, becky.

Speaker 4 11:04

My friend Heather is here.

Speaker 2 11:06

Heather is here. Hi, heather Heather, I don't know you but I already find you acceptable.

Speaker 1 11:11

The executive producer.

Speaker 2 11:12

Kelly has joined us. Kelly. We can talk apparently. Hey, I got Levi's name, let's go.

Speaker 4 11:20

This is so disgusting.

Speaker 2 11:23

Do you need to go get another drink, Tina? We want you to be happy with your beverage choice.

Speaker 4 11:29

I wonder if Tim will drink it. But I got my snacks up already.

Speaker 2 11:35

Are you going to power through it? I can power through it.

Speaker 4 11:38

I can do it. No, I can power through.

Speaker 1 11:42

All right, while she's powering through it. Sean sean, can you explain? We? We've got a special game that we're going to be playing over the course of this episode. Buddy, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 11:50

that is correct. But first I want to remind you all about the drinking games that we play on. Don't make it weird. Um, you're welcome to join in and play along responsibly, of course. Um, it's on you if you decide to play. Okay, it gets pretty wild in here don't be responsible, don't do that we have a rule called buffalo around here.

Speaker 2 12:08

Everyone has to drink with their off hand. We're all right handed, which means we all drink with our left hand. If you catch any of us drinking with our right hand, shout out buffalo in the chat or we will yell buffalo at each other, although it almost never happens because we just don't pay attention. Um, also, if you hear a buzzer like this, that means someone has said one of our fancy buzzwords or phrases and it triggers a drink. Now about the special game tonight. We wanted to get you guys in the audience a little more involved with the games. So, um, we need you to be eagle-eyed tonight, not just for Buffalo, but for sneak attack, because if you saw us with Uncle Bobbo, I don't know 20 or 30 episodes ago, we played a game called sneak attack where everyone had a secret thing.

Speaker 4 12:55

Oh, did Daniel just do a shot? I'm very sorry. I couldn't.

Speaker 2 12:59

I didn't know why he was gagging on.

Speaker 4 13:01

I was like that's disgusting Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 13:03

That was weird. Um, that wasn't part of the game. We've adapted sneak attack to the live show here, which means I'm going to give daniel and dina um secret tasks. They have to perform throughout the night and you, the audience, have to call it out if you think they're doing their secret task. And if you call it, you're entered to win a hard cover special edition copy of something Special by Dina S, like the one I'm holding right here To Something Too Special-ing. To Something Too Special, so they don't even know what the tasks are.

Speaker 1 13:33

Yet In her third book coming out soon. Nothing Special, tokyo Drift, yeah, tokyo Drift.

Speaker 2 13:42

So right now I'm sending Dina and Daniel their first task, alright can you? Hear us dude, or are you just like so delayed? It's horrible. I can hear you what yeah, that was like a solid four seconds what I don't feel any delay here we go, here we go.

Book Release Game Night With Prizes

Speaker 2 14:02

I'm gonna finish. Let me finish fucking explaining the game, daniel. Listen, oh, coralie's in the chat. Hi, coralie, we love you. I don't feel any delay. Here we go, here we go, I'm going to finish. Let me finish fucking explaining the game, daniel. Shut the fuck up. Listen, oh, coralie's in the chat. Hi, coralie, we love you. I said that to my mom. Okay, so we want you to play along Throughout the show. Daniel and Dina will be given secret to win a special edition copy of Dina's book. As soon as someone guesses right, I'm going to give them a new task to replace it. So keep an eye out. They might even try to distract you and do random shit. That isn't their actual secret task and you just have to kind of go with it.

Speaker 4 14:39

So I'm so excited for this game, so I'm so excited for this game.

Speaker 2 14:42

I'm sending them their secret tasks right now, and this will be going all night.

Speaker 3 14:51

We'll pick a winner of the book at the end of the night, all night long.

Speaker 4 14:54

We don't even have our tasks yet, daniel.

Speaker 1 14:56

I just I have a song in my heart, dina.

Speaker 2 14:59

I have a song in my heart, by the way this was Dina's idea, so I had to make it happen for her special night. You're too late, okay, so you guys both have your instructions.

Speaker 4 15:12

Yes, I'm going to forget to do this.

Speaker 2 15:16

Becky just called out your.

Speaker 4 15:17

There shirt.

Speaker 2 15:18

Show your shirt to the crowd the there.

Speaker 3 15:21

Hey.

Speaker 1 15:22

Dina Look at on, hey, dina, dina, dina look at me, dina darling. Don't, don't be putting your boobs out on display like that.

Speaker 4 15:32

This is a family show this is how you get a better audience, though this is inappropriate.

Speaker 1 15:39

I will not be a part of this. Sean, will you be a?

Speaker 2 15:41

part of a giveaway because we want to do a giveaway for a copy of the sean. Will you be a part of a giveaway because we want to do a giveaway for a copy?

Speaker 4 15:45

of the book right now, so I don't know how to help you are you just gonna make harry potter references? Yeah, because my background never mind um. Did you announce a giveaway?

Speaker 2 16:02

I wasn't listening yeah, you guys aren't listening. You're like petulant children. Um, we are doing a giveaway right now. If you want a chance to win a, a hard sorry, a, a paperback copy of something special by dina s type hashtag special into the chat right now oh, is that oh yeah, look at all these people I just saw on here that is.

Speaker 1 16:27

That is sam hi sam. Oh my gosh, we have so many people that want to be special hashtag special in the youtube chat for your chance to win.

Speaker 2 16:37

So, dina, did someone guess your thing already? What no, it's not that you did it, I don't know.

Speaker 1 16:43

You keep doing it until someone catches on yeah, yeah, it's not a one like holy shit it's me, it's me all right, we'll give you guys another minute to enter the giveaway. Oh, I'm loving this. No, that's stupid, Sorry. Does anyone remember the name of like in Lady and the no, not Lady and the Tramp. The other one, 101 Dalmatians. What the people's names were the owners?

Speaker 4 17:16

Oh, the owners. I don't know the owners, I just know Perdita and Pongo.

Speaker 1 17:22

Why did I?

Speaker 4 17:22

say Pongo.

Speaker 1 17:24

Pongo, I don't know, is that, is that your word? Is that what you're doing, roger, and?

Speaker 2 17:27

anita radcliffe is who you're looking for, roger and anita radcliffe I never knew they had a last name. All right, last call to enter hashtag special into the chat for your chance to win. If you don't win, this oh, ashley's here.

Speaker 1 17:43

Hi ashley, hi ashley, I'm definitely working on my line edits right now. Ashley, I promise I'm sorry I love you.

Speaker 2 17:50

Can you like not step over me while I'm trying to talk like seriously sorry, you're so beautiful, I'm delayed.

Speaker 1 17:55

I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 17:56

I'm in the middle of a sentence and you're screaming I might kick you out and make you come back in, because this is pretty bad.

Speaker 1 18:06

All right, I'm going to, I'm going to leave, I'll be right back. You do the, you do this thing, all right.

Speaker 2 18:10

Sure, hi, ashley. Yes, anita and Roger, thank you so much for your help. Okay, you guys, I think we're going to roll it. Let's see who won the first book. Oh wait, a second.

Speaker 2 18:24

Okay, we're not done yet we're not done we're waiting for one more entry oh okay, oh, I see now levi, I don't mean I'm gonna kick him out, like ban him from the stream, I just mean he needs to. Sometimes, when we're streaming together like this, like some delays happen and then wires get crossed and then there's like a five second like pause between people talking and Daniel's experiencing internet issues.

Speaker 3 18:53

So I asked him all right, how's it going?

Speaker 4 18:58

Just tell Sean that it's not easy being a wizard sometimes, you know.

Book Release Celebration Shenanigans

Speaker 1 19:02

That's true, this isn't a real thing.

Speaker 2 19:06

This is a red herring what hey, daniel, this game's for the audience, so just yeah, just sorry, I'm sorry. Do the show like you normally would.

Speaker 4 19:16

Just yes, darling hey, man be better shannon, are we good?

Speaker 1 19:24

oh my god, shannon, shannon please, I think it's time, man, let's, let's get, let's get a winner. Sean, I want to do he's not even logged in.

Speaker 2 19:34

Okay, he you know what. There's gonna be more chances to win tonight. He'll have more chances. Here we go, let's roll it somebody just buy Sean a book.

Speaker 1 19:47

That's so cute oh bless his heart that's my guy, that's my winner right there all right, levi's our first one of the night.

Speaker 2 20:06

There will be more chances to win tonight, you guys, so don't worry about it. Hang out with us, have a drink and have more chances to win.

Speaker 1 20:16

Oh man, you know, Sean, do you hear that? Sean, do you hear something?

Speaker 4 20:22

Voicemail Voicemail.

Speaker 2 20:24

Oh man.

Speaker 4 20:25

We have a voicemail. We just got a voicemail.

Speaker 2 20:27

Let's see who it is.

Speaker 3 20:29

Oh, my God. It's Levi, isn't it Is this I love him so much.

Speaker 2 20:40

Yo hey Dina, the Olive Queen. I hear that there is something special coming. I just want to say massive congratulations on your book release, on your new book. This is so exciting.

Speaker 3 20:57

You are amazing, my friend and you are going to do so so well, and I cannot wait to read it.

Speaker 2 21:06

Something special coming your way.

Speaker 3 21:08

Thomas Anthony Lay Guys.

Speaker 4 21:12

I love you so much.

Speaker 2 21:15

Levi was worried that was one of their fucking voicemails. No, you're good.

Speaker 1 21:20

He's like no, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 2 21:24

Yeah, I had to get Tom to come by and leave you a message because he can't make it's like 3 a. No, no, it's fine, it's fine everything to me. Uh, yeah, I had to get tom to come by and, uh, leave you a message because he can't make it's like 3 am where he is right now I was messaging him and I was like come on the show and then we did the map.

Speaker 4 21:35

Yeah, that wasn't gonna happen.

Speaker 1 21:37

Oh, man, I, I love it anytime we can get him to stop by. Man, that's, that's my dude, and uh, we, we miss him. We need to get him back on the show, as he's got to write his next book, so we can get him in here, right you know, it's really Hard being a wizard, and he's Just got things to do. Dina, I Swear to god. I swear to god. But listen, here's, here's something that, that, that I want to, I want to talk about.

Speaker 2 22:00

Are you gonna tell the audience how to leave Us a voicemail before you move on?

Speaker 1 22:04

I mean I could, but then I'd have to go back to the rundown then he'd have to.

Speaker 2 22:09

It's literally on the screen I would have to.

Speaker 1 22:12

It just says do we have a voicemail? It's 347 69, weird. 347 699 347 699 3473. It was on the screen, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 22:28

right in front of you the entire time. You didn't even have to refer to the muscles to flex how dare you. Becky's got it. Our first sneak attack winner is Becky you're releasing me from these shackles.

Speaker 1 22:42

Our first entry in the sneak attack raffle is Becky, you're releasing me from these shackles. You're releasing me from these shackles.

Speaker 2 22:46

Our first entry in the sneak attack raffle at the end of this is Becky. The secret prompt, for Dina was repeatedly saying it's not easy being a wizard.

Speaker 1 22:59

Heather is asking if I'm exposing myself for a reason. I'm lucky, heather, that my shirt's still on right now, like if, if Sean wasn't going to be really mad at me, I it would be off. I'd be popping this shirt off, all right? People don't understand. Listen, dina darling, can I just can I say something really quick? Don't ever call me darling again. I can't help that. That's how I feel about you. We've been doing this show for three years now, and I need us to be a little bit more intimate. Is that okay, dina?

Speaker 4 23:30

I don't ever want to be intimate with you. I want you to stay the fuck away from me you're gonna give me the hunter treatment anthony lay on the other end, just kidding listen, I need to get serious for a second.

Speaker 1 23:46

Guys, sean, do we have the sarah mclaughlin music? Sarah, mclaughlin music yeah, yeah, like you know, when the the song they play, whenever it's like for, like you know, a charity drive the arms of the angel, or whatever it's called.

Speaker 2 23:59

No, I don't have that cuta. Why would I have that?

Emoji Game Night With Friends

Speaker 1 24:03

just sing that for me right now. Sean just no because, no, that's not the song, but I love that song, and don't get me started one one or the don't make it weird podcast, something to help Sean. A whole much money on for the have. So for just one dollar a month you do support don't make it weird. Link to the patreon in the description shout out to our current patreon you guys, chris Cotta, rm, hamrick, thomas Staples, levi.

Speaker 2 24:46

In the description shout out to our current patreon you guys um chris cotta, rm, hamrick, thomas staples, levi, bersloff, lutte, stephen, howard, rance, denton, shannon, bright and matthew s.

Speaker 4 24:54

Thank you so much, you guys uh it means the world to us patreoncom slash dmiw, you're welcome.

Speaker 3 25:03

How does that?

Speaker 4 25:06

Mulan song go, you're welcome.

Speaker 3 25:09

Let's get down to business.

Speaker 2 25:13

That is, you're welcome is not from Mulan oh Moana Moana.

Speaker 3 25:21

You were doing.

Speaker 4 25:22

Moana. Yeah, you're welcome. No, becky's Moana, you were doing Moana.

Speaker 3 25:27

Yeah, you're welcome.

Speaker 2 25:27

No, Becky's screaming in the chat. It's Moana Just screaming.

Speaker 1 25:35

She is mad alright.

Speaker 2 25:38

Okay, do you guys want to play a game?

Speaker 4 25:41

Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 25:43

Darling, you want to play?

Speaker 4 25:51

7 am usual morning.

Speaker 2 25:52

Okay, okay, you guys, we're gonna, we're gonna have a game segment. It's called discern the emoji are you saying darling?

Speaker 4 26:02

because mckay says darling all the time in discern the emoji.

Speaker 2 26:06

Each player takes turns reenacting an emoji sent privately to them, without speaking or using props. The other player I'm referring to Dina and Daniel will then try to guess which emoji is being acted out. The player who guesses the emoji correctly first earns a point. There's one little caveat here the emoji correctly first earns a point. There's one little caveat here each of them get what's called the discerner's touch that they can use one time during the game. That will give them the opportunity to ask a question of the person reenacting the emoji to kind of get a better understanding of what they're trying to act out. And that can only be used once. So use it wisely, you two all right, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 26:44

Uh, you might need to check the chat real quick bud why am I checking the chat?

Speaker 4 26:49

somebody guessed his thing, I think. I assume thank god oh, rebecca thank you she's.

Speaker 2 26:56

The eagle eye is daniel's thing calling dina darling?

Speaker 3 26:58

yes, it is and that is a reference to.

Speaker 2 27:03

Dina's book Something Special.

Speaker 4 27:07

Okay, who wants to go first? Who wants to act first? I do.

Speaker 2 27:11

Okay, Dina's going first. Dina, can I go?

Speaker 4 27:14

first. So is that door.

Speaker 1 27:18

Yeah, actually, dina, can you go first?

Speaker 4 27:20

No.

Speaker 2 27:21

Okay, dina, your first emoji is in your DMs.

Speaker 4 27:26

Ew, let's see what you got. Okay, and I just have to act it out right, yeah, no words, just emotions.

Speaker 1 27:31

No words just emotions, fuck. Yes.

Speaker 3 27:35

Oh, I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 27:37

She's doing it right now.

Speaker 1 27:39

Completing emoji. You know, here's the problem with this game, Sean.

Speaker 2 27:46

I don't actually know what the emojis names are called.

Speaker 1 27:48

Yeah, but you can describe it okay. Uh, it's like the halo, like it's got the halo around it and it's like looking innocent and shit like yeah, no, can, I can I do daniel, would you like to take the l on this one, or do you want to use your one time per game advantage? The discerners touch no, it's too early. It's too early. I'm gonna take the L on this one.

Speaker 2 28:18

Shannon, do you want to tell the people what it was?

Speaker 3 28:20

oh.

Speaker 2 28:20

Shannon got it right. You guys thank you.

Speaker 1 28:23

Oh, Shannon got it right. You guys, Thank you. Oh, it was hard eyes.

Speaker 4 28:30

Because you're going like this, but it looks like you're going like this. That's what you mean in love.

Speaker 1 28:33

Oh, you're so bad at eye flirting I don't know how you would have survived the cold, Dina.

Speaker 4 28:38

Because, okay, because eye babies is not like, it's sensual and I don't want to be sensual with you.

Speaker 1 28:48

Dina darling please.

Speaker 2 28:50

Oh, I need to give you a new thing. Hold on, hold on Pause. I need to give Daniel his next task. Darling is over. You can stop with that now before she kills you.

Speaker 1 28:59

I had to do it one more time.

Speaker 2 29:03

Also, you guys remember that you can like throw in red herrings. So the audience what it is so easily. And so, daniel, there's a new secret task. I don't know, just that was a new secret task for uh sneak attack and here I'm sending you your emoji for dina to discern all right, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 29:27

I'm ready. The day is mine. Where is that?

Speaker 4 29:34

oh, oh, cowboy hat the shocked emoji with the with the blue. Oh the mind blown the brain blown, she got it it's hard to be such a experience.

Speaker 1 29:54

People just don't get it. They don't get how talented I am.

Speaker 2 29:57

It's unbelievable okay, that's one point to Dina. How many points to Daniel? Remind me zero, yeah, zero, that's right.

Speaker 1 30:06

I feel like a winner for how great I did.

Speaker 2 30:10

Okay, dina, I am sending you your next emoji.

Speaker 3 30:15

Okay, emoji.

Speaker 1 30:19

Dina's hair looks really nice today. I feel like we haven't commented on that and we should.

Speaker 2 30:23

Is Dina's thing singing disney songs?

Speaker 1 30:25

yes, it is shannon I was just really excited to be singing disney songs. That was a part of it all right, good job, shannon.

Speaker 2 30:36

So becky has two entries, shannon has one, and now I need to get dina her next secret task, which I didn't prepare.

Speaker 1 30:43

Many of these I totally underestimated how quickly people would go through these. Sean, can you just look at me real quick? Can we do eye babies real quick, can we please?

Speaker 3 30:53

God damn it.

Speaker 4 30:54

I need my eye condoms.

Speaker 3 31:02

Oh.

Speaker 2 31:02

Corley, we already checked voicemail for our voicemail segment. This time did you send one today.

Speaker 1 31:11

I can just bring my mom downstairs, so we can just have my mom just come and say hi to Dina at some point now has her new emoji and her new secret task. Okay, that's just your face. Has her new emoji and her new secret task. Okay, that's just your face, dina, that's not an emoji, that's just literally your face.

Speaker 2 31:32

That's because I'm constantly doing this, daniel is not a discerner, y'all.

Speaker 1 31:40

That's just your face. I don't see anything different. Okay, hold on it. Do it again, dina. Okay, so it's like an eyebrow raise, like it's like uh, I, I don't jesus you're an author right yeah, I am. Uh, if it's a smirk, I swear to fucking god I will. I will end this right now. I will fucking end this right now if that's a smirk. Emoji he got it. That's a point for Daniel. God damn it. I hate that word so much.

Speaker 2 32:14

That was the smirk Daniel's favorite word from the English language. Everybody.

Speaker 4 32:20

What's up?

Speaker 2 32:24

Okay, daniel, we'll do this a couple more times, okay, daniel hey, can I ask a question you? Have your next one. Wait, wait, before you do it, dina what's a mukbang? That's when someone eats way too much food in a sloppy manner and people watch it oh, like a sex thing, I mean, it depends on who you ask it's not. It's not like explicitly a sex thing. I mean it depends on who you ask. It's not. It's not like explicitly a sex thing, but I can see how people would be into that in a kinky way.

Speaker 4 32:52

I can see why Dina would not be into that, but yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 32:57

Daniel, you have Dina can we pay attention please? Alright, you ready, hold on my mom's. My mom's coming down here, so let me do the emoji and then we're my mom on.

Speaker 2 33:04

Oh my god, we're my mom on oh my god, we're firing through these way too quick, becky.

Speaker 4 33:10

The people know it Fuck.

Speaker 1 33:12

Becky already got the accent.

Speaker 2 33:17

And now my sound's just died. What's going on here?

Speaker 1 33:20

Oh no, the sound's just died, all right.

Speaker 2 33:22

Well, can I at least do my emoji first? Well, this wouldn't happen, yeah, oh no, the sound's just died. Can I at least do my emoji first?

Speaker 1 33:26

Yeah, do your emoji, alright.

Speaker 4 33:31

Oh, I wasn't looking at you. The startled face. The startled face, like with the big eyes. Are you trying to move your eyebrows right now, like it's gotta be scared? Are you scared? That's fear. Five head Blowing out of the mouth. Another one, um, uh, blowing, blowing out of the mouth. Another one stressing I don't know, I can, I can I use the discerner's touch from the audience you want the discerner's touch.

Speaker 2 34:22

So that means you get to ask daniel a question that will give you a better idea of what he's trying to do.

Speaker 1 34:29

That's not okay, mom. It's universally known, but I still had to hear you singing those lyrics, mom. Okay, my mom was singing touch me, the rock horror picture show and I can't unhear that. Now, guys, I can't, I can't unhear that dino thoroughly enjoyed that moment.

Speaker 4 34:51

Um yeah, daniel right. Um yeah, are you?

Speaker 1 34:58

ask your question.

Speaker 4 35:00

Oh, I don't. I don't know how to ask a question about this.

Speaker 2 35:03

I just realized that um you can't ask what it is obviously right, so what would help? So are you thinking about, thinking about the time you can ask him like yeah, what would make you react this way, or something like that oh, I'll, I'll steal that one.

Speaker 4 35:20

What would make you react with this emoji?

Speaker 1 35:24

Shitting my pants in public.

Speaker 4 35:27

So you're the embarrassed face.

Speaker 3 35:31

Okay.

Speaker 2 35:33

Embarrassed face.

Speaker 1 35:36

I'm going to switch seats with my mom real quick so that she can give it.

Speaker 2 35:40

A quick cameo from the lovely Coralie All right, here we go, mom.

Speaker 1 35:44

You got to get her right over here to the mic. Oh okay, here we go. Lovely Coralie, All right, here we go. Mom, you got to get right over here to the mic. Oh, okay. Yeah, here we go here we go. All right, give Dina your message.

Speaker 3 35:49

Dina, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2 35:51

You're doing so well, hi, coralie, and I'm just wondering if curls are contagious because, Sean, I've known you since you guys were in middle school.

Speaker 3 36:02

where were those girls back then?

Speaker 2 36:04

I had my head shaved. They were shaved off.

Speaker 1 36:09

I don't have any curls, mom. I'm sorry, I'm not as cool as Sean and Dean. I don't have any curls.

Speaker 4 36:15

You got bupkis.

Speaker 3 36:17

You got bupkis. Thank you, mom, I love you, love you.

Speaker 2 36:21

Carly.

Speaker 1 36:24

They all say they love you Mom, I love you Love you, carly.

Speaker 4 36:26

They all say they love you Mom.

Speaker 1 36:27

She's so amazing.

Speaker 4 36:28

I literally said it when she first came up.

Speaker 1 36:32

All right, all right, we're going to do one more round, buddy.

Speaker 2 36:34

Yeah, let's do one more round.

Speaker 1 36:37

Also.

Speaker 2 36:37

Daniel, you have your new secret task in your DMs.

Speaker 1 36:41

Okay, can I still call Dina darling, though, like I really don't want to stop that.

Speaker 4 36:45

only if you want to be murdered tonight um, I will drive up my ass to georgia okay, um, I need to give one to dina.

Speaker 2 37:00

Here we go, getting my wires crossed between two games going at the same time. There you go, dina.

Speaker 4 37:08

Okay, no, no, that's still just my face all the time, though that's still just my face, that's just your face.

Emoji Game Night Chaos

Speaker 2 37:19

Emote Anger emoji yeah, ah, you got it. Emote, emote Anger emoji yeah, ah, you got it All right, so we're tied up at two. Dina needs to get this one in order to win the game. You guys?

Speaker 4 37:34

Dina's winning already. I don't know. She doesn't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 37:39

Hey Dina. Dina, did you know that duck-billed platypuses are the only animals that are mammals, that can lay eggs?

Speaker 4 37:47

Did you also know that they're poisonous?

Speaker 1 37:50

Yes, I did. I love duck-billed platypuses, sorry, continue.

Speaker 4 37:53

All right, let's try another one.

Speaker 2 37:54

Why do you keep fucking doing random shit? Okay Wait, last one for Daniel, here we go.

Speaker 4 37:59

ASMR, this you didn't do it, it's fine.

Speaker 2 38:05

No, shannon, that's not correct. Nice guess though.

Speaker 4 38:08

Thanks for trying to get me out of this one. Shannon Dina appreciates it.

Speaker 2 38:13

I need to come up with more, because I only prepared three each for you guys.

Speaker 4 38:19

Thank fuck. Thank you, Levi Jeez Louise.

Speaker 2 38:23

Dina is talking in the third person.

Speaker 1 38:27

Oh my god, got her, got her.

Speaker 4 38:30

Oh, that's good.

Speaker 2 38:33

Which one are you drinking now?

Speaker 4 38:34

Zero sugar. That's why they taste weird. I didn't know. I grabbed a zero sugar one.

Speaker 1 38:40

It's better. They are better for you. Some of us don't want to have sugar in our diets alright.

Speaker 4 38:44

Aspartame is not better for you. Some of us don't want to have sugar in our diets. Aspartame is not better for you. It causes cancer. Drink responsibly.

Speaker 2 38:50

Alright, Daniel, do you want to go ahead and act out this last face?

Speaker 1 38:54

I've been acting it out, but no one's been paying attention to me.

Speaker 3 38:56

Yeah, I don't like looking at you.

Speaker 4 38:58

Yeah, oh um the green emoji.

Speaker 3 39:10

She nailed it right away.

Speaker 2 39:11

It's because I'm a tremendous actor, tremendous. All right, you guys. This has been discern the emoji. Congratulations to our champion, dina, who won 476 to 2.

Speaker 1 39:24

That math does not math correctly, sean. Okay, I think it does. And what would Teddy Roosevelt think, sean? What would Teddy Roosevelt think of your lies right now?

Speaker 4 39:36

Oh my god, you know what I love the movie Night at the Museum.

Speaker 2 39:40

That is a great movie. Robin Williams, as Teddy Roosevelt, is like peak.

Speaker 1 39:46

Did you know they also have an animated cartoon? My kid loves it. It's pretty freaking amazing.

Speaker 4 39:53

You know what else causes cancer, levi, walking around barefoot, I'll drink to that.

Speaker 1 39:57

Oh shit, do not come to Levi and those bare feet. He has a right, they have a right good save all right so, daniel, what are we doing next bud? Uh, john quincy adams I will murder you.

Speaker 2 40:19

What am I hosting this show?

Speaker 1 40:21

okay, here we go you guys give away sean are we gonna do another giveaway?

Speaker 2 40:28

let's do another fucking giveaway.

Speaker 1 40:29

We're gonna give away all the books today, you guys, yeah, but first I need to change the hashtags don't look at it okay, don't look at the hashtag, and while you guys do, I want to tell you about abraham lincoln, because he was the first president that actually could tell you that pigeons and doves are the same animals. There's no difference. We could ask Stevie Wildcard about this right now, and he'll agree with Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 4 40:55

Bring him on the show. Let's go. Bitches Is.

Speaker 2 40:57

Stevie Wildcard here, because that would be great.

Speaker 1 41:00

God.

Speaker 3 41:00

I want to talk about the.

Speaker 2 41:01

Waco. All right, you guys, for your chance to win a paperback copy of Something Special to Something Too Special by Dinosaurus, type hashtag Discerner into the comments, into the chat.

Speaker 4 41:14

Oh, hold on, I have to take this real quick One second.

Speaker 1 41:18

You have to take this. Oh my god, she's.

Speaker 2 41:22

You're literally taking a phone call right now.

Speaker 1 41:24

Who's calling her right now? Sean, this is gonna be dead. Air hold on stevie. Wild card. Sean carrier pigeons were it was. Oh, sorry I, I had to come up with more facts oh, there's becky, the quick trigger finger of of becky mickelsonkelson. God, becky's so fucking quick.

Speaker 2 41:46

That's what she said, okay, damn it, I'm never doing one of these games again, you guys, so enjoy it thank you I appreciate it. Shannon, beat me to it. Daniels is bringing up presidents. No, it's not. Daniels is naming presidents. No, it's not, daniels is random facts. Well, I'll give you that, shannon, it's not. Daniels is naming presidents. No, it's not, daniels is random facts. Well, I'll give you that, shannon, it's actually random facts pigeons but he didn't do that that right. He just started naming random facts about anything it was.

Speaker 1 42:15

It was specifically about pigeons in two things about pigeons. I was trying to be more subtle. I wanted the red herrings, sean sorry, you can't listen.

Speaker 2 42:25

This is the same thing with fucking true confessions. You can't just change it a tiny bit and call it something different.

Speaker 1 42:31

You have to do something completely different I do this with my wife all the time yeah, and she fucking hates it click, click, mute okay so that's two entries for shannon. Now, all right, did everyone put?

Speaker 2 42:48

hashtag discerner in the chat. Oh sean is here, let's go sean sean is here, yes, by the way. Uh, anthony, I saw your comment about my t-shirt earlier. You should wait till you see the back.

Speaker 4 43:00

It's awesome when am I gonna get my t-shirt?

Speaker 2 43:04

oh yeah calm down bitch. I'm on a package coming for you, do you?

Speaker 4 43:08

ever like have your like glasses case in front of you and you just want to like shut your mouth in it absolutely not.

Speaker 2 43:16

I don't have those intrusive thoughts, hey it's matthew yeah, that what matthew's here, that guy's here that guy's here. Matthew, you have a chance to win a paperback copy of the book if you type in just hashtag discern to the chat right now. Hurry up, go do it, do it, do it do it oh.

Speaker 4 43:34

While we wait, hold on one second. I gotta take this oh wait, I didn't mute hold on one second why, oh my what the the amount of disrespect and disregard that she's shown.

Speaker 2 43:50

Oh, and she just fucking knocked her mic over and it was muted so we didn't get that sweet sweet audio oh god

Speaker 1 43:56

what do we need to do with ourselves?

Speaker 2 43:58

all right, I'm gonna roll this giveaway while dina repairs her entire life. Good luck everybody. This is not our last giveaway of the night while Dina repairs her entire life. Good luck everybody. This is not our last giveaway of the night. Thank you so much for hanging out with us.

Speaker 3 44:11

We love you all.

Speaker 4 44:16

We got an interview with our author coming up. Oh, I got to stop drinking. If we're going to do that, you know how to throw a shot. I love the shot.

Speaker 3 44:24

Yeah, let's go Sean.

Speaker 2 44:29

Oh my god.

Speaker 1 44:30

You can bring this to Nuclear Power Plant and it's going to be amazing. Let's go.

Speaker 4 44:36

I love that Coralie has had the same intrusive thoughts as me.

Speaker 2 44:41

Oh, Samantha's got it. Dina was pretending to take phone calls well, yeah, I mean did you not have anything to say there, bud?

Speaker 1 45:00

I just I feel like I got shit on for being low effort with my my. Thing.

Speaker 4 45:06

And we all.

Speaker 2 45:06

my thing was so obvious, Like I had no choice and she wasn't trying to do.

Speaker 4 45:11

Oh my God, everybody shut up.

Speaker 2 45:18

Peter.

Speaker 4 45:19

Sean's here. That's our bay, oh my.

Speaker 1 45:22

God, that's our bite.

Speaker 2 45:27

Denfis style bitch. I heard a thing was happening tonight. Tonight, daniel, can you say this in a scouse accent for us?

Speaker 1 45:36

it's like a scottish accent though, so it's like, really, the scouts is almost the same uh oh shit, I'm sorry, heather.

Speaker 2 45:43

Heather actually guessed the dina's taking calls thing first and I totally missed it. That's my fault. I will give you both an entry for that, because I I fucked up this game is hard it's hard to keep track you guys. It really, really is it's, it's fucking hard.

Speaker 1 45:59

I mean peter sean wants us to do the accent.

Speaker 4 46:02

Scall.

Speaker 1 46:02

Scall.

Speaker 4 46:02

Scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall, scall.

Speaker 2 46:08

Scall, scall.

Speaker 1 46:29

Scall, scall. Go on and do it.

Speaker 3 46:34

Yeah, I can't do.

Speaker 1 46:35

That was shrek, but close that was basically the same same. All right, uh, dina, do you have a tissue or a neckerchief handy?

Speaker 2 46:49

per chance. Oh wait, it's that guy's daughter's birthday, remember. Can we do a quick happy?

Speaker 3 46:53

birthday.

Speaker 1 46:54

Yeah, yeah, happy birthday happy birthday to you happy birthday to you, happy birthday, dear god, greeting card that that he can keep in his vent for his child.

Speaker 2 47:11

Give me two minutes. Is he gonna bring the goat to the room?

Speaker 4 47:15

hey, oh my god, we can give him two minutes.

Speaker 1 47:20

Yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 4 47:22

That's amazing, um yeah are we doing the cha-cha or are we doing?

Speaker 2 47:27

we should do just a regular happy birthday okay, making sure and make sure daniel's so frustrated right now because he's delayed still and he can't get a word in edgewise it's so amazing.

Speaker 4 47:40

It's the best night of my life. You guys remember when we had everybody that's ever hosted on our show at once. That was amazing. Dewey's here everybody let's go, Go, Dewey. Okay, go, go, go, go go. One, two, three Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 48:01

It's going to be a shit show. We're all delayed.

Speaker 4 48:02

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Dewey. Happy birthday, happy birthday Happy birthday, dear goat.

Speaker 3 48:08

Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you, cha cha cha. Oh, I hope that sounded.

Speaker 2 48:18

Better than it did just now in my headset For you guys at home. Oh my goodness, happy birthday and goodnight. Golden is your birthday, happy birthday that's great.

Potato Cult Conversations

Speaker 1 48:31

Yeah, that was good. Um, but can we go back to dina crying for us on camera? Dina crying for us, can you? Because? Because she needs a neckerchief, because it is time for deeply personal, hard-hitting questions as we peel back the layers of the potato with Dina. Source Dina. First question If you could add a word to the dictionary and you get to add what it means, what would that word be and what would it mean?

Speaker 4 49:02

Dacklesphere.

Speaker 1 49:04

Dacklesphere. What does d dackel sphere mean?

Speaker 4 49:07

it's just an alien planet that I came up with okay, the dackel sphere, that's alien planets.

Speaker 1 49:14

I'm in for it. I'm yeah. No, I love it.

Speaker 2 49:15

That's a great question, sean um dina, if a jedi were constipated, would they just use the force to pull the poop out?

Speaker 4 49:25

uh, yes, absolutely. I don't really know how the force works, but I think that they could definitely surrounds us.

Speaker 1 49:33

Yeah, but I but like do they have to see the object?

Speaker 4 49:37

it penetrates your gut, they could get a mirror and like do one to see the objects one foot on the toilet, just force it out let's say, I don't know.

Speaker 1 49:50

I actually don't know either, but I really like the idea of them having to see the object that they're manipulating yeah, but like think about like this, for, like dark side users, they could force choke their own colon in order to get the poop out like when you're getting a sausage out of a bag like squeezing out of jimmy dean's into the pan.

Speaker 4 50:11

Yeah I don't think the poop is a part of you once your body processes all of the nutrients that it needs right it's just like a parasite, basically, so it would differentiate, for sure.

Speaker 2 50:24

Aw, she said. Matthew said she cried, she loved it so much.

Speaker 4 50:27

I love making children cry, oh God.

Speaker 1 50:30

Dina, that's what we do here on the Domated Weird Podcast. Dina, if you could swap the legs from one animal to a different animal, what would the two animals be that you would have swap legs?

Speaker 4 50:47

Owl and goat. Oh God, can you imagine an owl with goat legs, bro?

Speaker 1 50:56

Yeah, that'd be satanic shit. That's how fucking like Are we talking about hind legs?

Speaker 2 51:01

And we're talking about just legs, so it's like fully the owl body and then like the legs only are replaced with goat legs yeah it's not like, and then the bottom half of the animal is goat and then the top half is his owl it's just the legs that is an unholy abomination gonna be found in peter sean tyrell's next book incredible yeah, sean, what do you got?

Speaker 2 51:27

buddy, I'm. I had no idea that dina had 70 of these fucking questions in the document, so like I'm, I'm, I'm flipping through you know, find one that that I know she hasn't answered yet all right, you know what?

Speaker 1 51:43

I'll ask another question while he's looking dina, according to you, it's time to get a little controversial. All right, you ready to get controversial? The most mind-numbingly dull movie ever made say tremors levi will kill us we cannot say trip.

Speaker 2 52:03

Why would you even bring that up? Why would you even I love up? Why?

Speaker 1 52:05

would you even? I love Tremors, I love Kevin Bacon. I just want to be controversial right now.

Speaker 4 52:08

Lost Boys Anthony's in the chat, bro, I know I just wanted to have him talk to me again. I just miss him, that's fair.

Speaker 1 52:19

No, so you just lashed out in anger, you just lashed out in anger what's the?

Speaker 4 52:25

Oh, Deadpool 3. That's what I'm going to go with.

Speaker 2 52:27

Oh you, son of a bitch. She's pandering to Shannon right now.

Speaker 4 52:31

Yeah, I am. She's so nasty.

Speaker 2 52:34

Now Anthony's leaving.

Speaker 4 52:37

No, I'm picturing this movie and I can't remember the name of it.

Speaker 2 52:41

So you're just naming other people's favorite movies that you happen to see in the room yeah, no, I know which which one.

Speaker 4 52:48

Um, I just lost it again.

Speaker 2 52:50

Oh, the new flash oh yeah, I haven't seen that I do want to watch that, just because keaton's supposed to reprise batman in that movie, but I can't really bring myself to watch it.

Speaker 4 53:00

So I've never not finished a movie in my life, and that was the first movie that I didn't finish interesting yeah you dnf'd.

Speaker 2 53:11

Okay, I have one last one for you, dina um, if tomato is a fruit, then is ketchup a smoothie no, smoothies have to be cold I keep my ketchup in the fridge yeah you, yeah, you keep your ketchup in the fridge, bro oh yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 53:36

Um no, no, because you can't taste, there's no texture to it, so smoothies have texture.

Speaker 2 53:43

Texture defines a smoothie, not what's necessarily in it, but what the texture is yeah, smoothies have seeds.

Speaker 4 53:50

Ketchup doesn't have seeds.

Speaker 1 53:53

So last question, dina, are you ready?

Speaker 2 53:55

Smoothies have seeds. That's the defining thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 54:00

Dina, you have a long history with cults, is that correct?

Speaker 4 54:07

Sort of yeah.

Speaker 1 54:09

Your job, because we're upgrading here. You are going to create the best cult of all time, the cult of the potato. What is your tagline? Oh, the freedom of choice, the freedom of choice. Oh shit, that's a good one that's a good one.

Speaker 4 54:37

Right there, you can have it any way you want it this cold is however.

Speaker 1 54:42

You want it, baby, I like it.

Speaker 2 54:44

Matthew said, salsa is a fruit salad. That's a good take, you know what.

Speaker 4 54:49

It's pretty accurate, I feel like.

Speaker 2 54:50

Pico de.

Speaker 1 54:50

Gallo fruit salad or, if you like, a pineapple mango salsa or something like that. You know.

Speaker 4 54:57

Fun fact mango salsa from Target is the only salsa that I can have because there's no onions in it. Oh, wow, really yeah the only salsa that I can have, because there's no onions in it. Oh Wow, really. Yeah, the Fridom of Choice. Peter Sean, I want you to know that in my head that's how I was spelling it, but it didn't occur to me what I was thinking. That's beautiful.

Speaker 2 55:19

Potato cult. What was the?

Speaker 1 55:20

movie that we were watching for this show.

Speaker 2 55:26

What are you?

Speaker 1 55:27

talking about are we the candy? Is that not? Is that not why we're here?

Speaker 2 55:32

daniel, what the fuck are you okay.

Speaker 4 55:34

Are you having a stroke?

Speaker 1 55:36

we're doing the pilgrims uh thing with liam neeson yeah, that's what we're doing tonight.

Speaker 2 55:41

Did you just go back in time um?

Speaker 1 55:44

oh, oh shit. Do you have a serious?

Speaker 2 55:46

author hat nearby that you want to swap out with your current hat, or you know what I don't, but I'm I'm happy to I'm so glad he came prepared for your special show, got the right drink too look, look, it balances on my head. This is perfection oh my god, corley. She said join the potatoes and put some skin in the game I like that one.

Speaker 1 56:17

Listen, we're starting a great religion here. I love it, um, all right. So, dina, we're gonna put on our serious author hats and we are gonna be talking about something special your second book, book two of the discerners trilogy, man, and I'm so excited, so can we, can we give them a little bit of the blurb sean? Can I, can I, can I hit him?

Speaker 2 56:33

with that blurb. Yeah, before you hit him with the blurb heather. No, that's. That's not quite the thing that dina is doing right now, but you're you're getting warmer's hot, that's hot. Okay, Shannon. Okay, the instructions were for Dina to slowly pick up a random object and stare at it intensely for a few seconds and then put it down like it's no big deal, which.

Speaker 2 56:57

I feel like Is Dina saying something to Opening things in her face glasses, face glasses, case clip. I feel like that's not close enough. Although you were getting warm heather, shannon said, is dina playing with random objects, and I feel like that's good enough.

Speaker 1 57:13

So good enough.

Speaker 2 57:14

That's the title of our show the good enough podcast I think oh sorry listen, I didn't prepare any more of these, so I'm gonna see if I have one more for Dina. If I do, then that's going to be the last one, because I've got too many fucking plates spinning right now.

Speaker 1 57:33

Okay, no, that's fair, that's fair, all right. So, Dina, are you ready? Are you ready for this? Are you ready?

Speaker 4 57:41

You ready for this.

Speaker 1 57:43

You ready for this? Paisley Adams isn't like the other girls. She is a discerner. Surviving high school wasn't easy for somebody who can manipulate emotions and auras. But life threw Paisley another curveball when she had a chance to encounter, a chance encounter with the school outcast, james Bennett, a discerner like her. Together they discovered what it meant to trust and love completely without barriers, or so they believed.

Speaker 1 58:07

After their relationship fell apart, paisley entered the next phase of her life, attending college at Columbia University, ready to get a degree, change the world and reconnect with old friends. See, she searches for normalcy, hoping to leave the past and James behind her. Enter Nathaniel Aroth, a mysterious man with dark secrets of his own. With another chance encounter, paisley is once again thrust into the wondrous world of magic. Except this time, the strange and seductive world is much bigger than she ever realized Secret societies and powers yet unknown. Is Paisley truly ready for the fresh start with someone new, or will the ghost of James Bennett return to haunt her? So, dina, before we get started with our serious author questions, can I just start out by saying how dare you.

Speaker 2 58:53

How fucking dare the audacity, the audacity.

Speaker 1 59:00

The lion, the witch and the audacity of this bitch.

Speaker 4 59:16

How dare the lion the?

Speaker 2 59:17

witch and the audacity of this bitch no-transcript.

Speaker 1 59:18

You threw the editor under the bus. Is that how this is going? Huh?

Speaker 4 59:22

Yeah, I'm definitely blaming the editor. Oh, under the bus, is that how this is going, huh? Yeah, I'm definitely blaming the editor.

Speaker 1 59:26

Oh yeah. So now to circle this back up with what happened in the beginning part of this episode. Dina says I don't know if I'm going to write book three, while leaving book two on a goddamn cliffhanger. And you're going to tell me that you're not going to write book three. How dare.

Speaker 1 59:42

Ashley is still here to be thrown under the bus here, ashley we love you, ashley all right, but for for realsies though we I have so many thoughts because this is such a giant departure from what you did in the first book, with nothing special. So in the first book this is a you wrote from the voice of angsty high school girl. Now she's a college student, much more mature, she's a little bit more warm, like world weary. What was it like to change your own character's voice, to grow them up and have to kind of change how they talk because it feels like you? You can feel her getting older in this book.

Exploring Friendship, Magic, and Love

Speaker 4 1:00:24

Honestly, I loved writing her older. I kind of feel, like in my tenure at Lost Boys and everything that I've written since book one has come out, that my abilities as an author have leveled up quite a bit. And well, I mean, I don't think that something special is necessarily better than nothing special. I think that it was really fun and enjoyable to write a more mature voice and, honestly, like I'm now working on a new book that's adult romance instead of YA, because I really enjoyed aging my characters up and being able to play around outside of the ya rules and restrictions within that genre so kind of piggybacking off of that, like maturing the characters and their relationships.

Speaker 2 1:01:21

Even um, michaela plays a really significant role in Paisley's life and kind of comes back into it and I was wondering, after their dynamic changed and everything, what?

Speaker 4 1:01:35

what message were you trying to convey with their friendship, especially after they had their time, the secrets that they kept from each other, etc um, I, I think that with paisley and the discerners trilogy I I get to explore emotions on like a really deep level, because when you're a teen and you put yourself back in that mindset you can, um, you're learning how relationships work right. So in reality, like a lot of times, friends will drift apart. You'll be friends as kids and then you drift apart because somebody moves or something like that. And I, in an ideal world like you, you reconnect right and you want to oh, hold on one second, I'm sorry that wasn't a prompt guys tiktok just like closed on me. Okay, um, in an ideal world like you, reconnect with those young friendships that you miss so much because they do leave holes in you. And I thought that that's what she said.

Speaker 4 1:02:38

I thought that it was nailed it I thought that it was very um, therapeutic, um, and it felt like every kid's dream to reconnect with an old best friend and have it be the same strong relationship that you remember it as like that idealism of remembering and and so I kind of want to go on that, because you know we talked about a little bit beforehand that this is a bit of a genre hop.

Speaker 1 1:03:10

So not only you know the first book is the coming of age story, it's a YA story. The focus is very much so on the romance and on discovering yourself, on battling through, you know, tragedy. And this next book, it deals with a lot of, you know, kind of heavy themes. But you know, the first book you kind of dabble a little bit in the magic, the magic is just like a little kind of topping, and in the second book it's the, the meat and potatoes of your story. And so you've really kind of I don't want to call it a departure, but you have created something that what that was slightly paranormal to now fully paranormal, and you've opened up this world into magic and mystery. What was it like? Just kind of expanding and kind of leaning into the fantasy elements.

Speaker 4 1:03:56

That's actually like where, before I started writing this new adult romance that I'm working on, that's kind of where I was most comfortable and where I thought that I shined the most was in pure magic and pure fantasy. The um and nothing special was actually like the first thing that I had ever written where fantasy and magic weren't the full focus. So I really enjoyed coming back to that and that's why I made the decision to pull in all kinds of different magic and a full magic system within the world rather than just having it be like that icing on the cake, essentially like it was in book one. I really enjoyed having that full immersive while still also being believable. All of the magic that I used in book two is still within the realm of reason where somebody could believe it because it can't be proven.

Speaker 2 1:04:51

So that was really fun we already have a believer their name is levi levi, I've tagged that uh question to come back to later when we do q a with the audience, so we'll get to that. Um, great question. By the way, dina, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the James versus Nathaniel thing. Um, I think that Paisley has a really complex relationship with both of them and it made me wonder what your thought process was behind creating these two like super different love interests and how they represent different aspects of Paisley's character.

Speaker 4 1:05:29

I kind of um. So the whole discerners trilogy is super emotion based and it dives into this like sort of introspective, super deep, annoyingly emotional reality of the world and like thinking through things on a very deep psychological level. And I wanted to take because in my experience I think that there's two different kinds of love, like well, there's a couple different, a few different kinds, like you've got true love, you've got your soulmate, you've got your first love, like there's and there's different levels and aspects to each of those. So I thought that if James is Paisley soulmate, then what other kind of love can Paisley experience.

Speaker 2 1:06:21

That's what I got for the first half of the book.

Speaker 4 1:06:26

It was very, very, yeah, just horny love. That's why I liked going into the adult aspect of it. Um, there's like and I just wanted her to experience like a different one of those and then leave it up to the audience for now to decide which one of those loves is best suited for her if they're, if she's, if she wants to be with her soulmate, or if she wants to be with true love or first love, or like all those different aspects, and which one is more well suited for her. Because I think that as we grow as people, every one of us has a different kind of love that we decide to choose to be with sorry, what were we talking about again?

Speaker 2 1:07:08

what the fuck is wrong with you? What do you have? A question or not?

Speaker 1 1:07:15

thoughtful corny love.

Speaker 4 1:07:17

Yeah, yeah, sorry, I checked those are so much better than my first interview. I'm just saying I need to start drinking more so.

Speaker 1 1:07:25

So, dina, let me, let me ask you something for for to be serious for a second, the first book was about finding love, finding yourself and, I would say, dealing with tragedy. And this second book you know, underneath the magic and the love interest and the love triangle and all these other things that goes on, I would say that this is a story about grief, about acceptance, about moving on, and I know that, as much as we like to joke around, you know this obviously is not a, a self-insert. This is, you know, a fictional character, but I think that there's aspects that you draw from yourself and your own personal tragedies and own personal things that you experience. So what was it like channeling your own grief and loss and experiences, moving on, and channeling that into paisley and and did you find it? You know, cathartic?

Exploring Character Development and Antagonists

Speaker 4 1:08:13

honestly, I I think that's why I struggled with writing book two a lot more than I did with book one, because book one was definitely a lot of me working through my grief after I lost my dad, because obviously book one was like my promise to him that I would pursue writing and publication again. Book two was never planned. I never had an idea for it. In fact, book two was never planned. I never had an idea for it. In fact, I spent a lot of time bothering Ashley like brainstorming how to continue this story, because what book one process those emotions for my grief and book two was not that at all. Book two was me trying to connect with myself as an author. So I just I don't know, I didn't feel super emotionally drained by it, but instead I found it to be more fruitful and an opportunity for growth as a writer, not necessarily as like the individual, me, which is experience that I had with nothing special I love that.

Speaker 2 1:09:36

Answer um before we move on before we move on, samantha, daniel's thing is to space out. Actually, I believe. I believe what I told him was pretend to forget what the show is about and ask wait, what are we doing, what are we talking about? Again Right in the middle of a conversation. And I think your answer is good enough. So yeah, samantha nailed it. Now Daniel's released from the clutches of the game.

Speaker 4 1:10:02

I just want to say that this mic is there for me in so many ways that Daniel isn't, and I really it's there for me more than it's there for anybody else.

Speaker 2 1:10:14

If we're being honest, that is hurtfully accurate.

Speaker 4 1:10:20

I'm gonna fucking kill myself. Sean's never gonna do this game again, but thank you, sean, it's been a very fun game. It's been a very fun game. I I'm going to fucking kill myself.

Speaker 2 1:10:27

It's been a very fun game. I've gotten it wrong about half the time. Okay, I'm just going to take your word for it, shannon, because I'm not going to flip. Oh, there it is. It's Daniel pretending to forget about what you're talking about. Yeah, she said it, I need another. I need an associate producer here with me.

Speaker 1 1:10:49

That's what I need. Yeah, where is executive producer Kalei? She's ordering dinner. Okay, that's fair, that's fair, all right.

Speaker 2 1:10:52

So, Dina, you've survived. I have another question, dummy.

Speaker 1 1:10:54

Oh, sorry, sorry, Please go, isn't he?

Speaker 4 1:10:56

so bad at interviewing with people Like it sucks being on his team for these things by the way.

Speaker 2 1:11:01

By the way, no, shannon, you're fine. I fucked up. You're fine. Um, I uh I'm not gonna spoil anything, but I will say this um a year or however long ago, it was dina when we did this for your first book. Um, you said that you do have like fantasy elements in your book, of course, but you don't really have a big bad in the story. Um, oh yeah that most fantasy readers might expect, and I don't think that's necessarily true.

Speaker 2 1:11:30

Like we already touched on it tonight, the big bad in the story is kind of like grief and loss, and it's not necessarily a tangible big bad, but it's like it's there. Um, in this book there is an actual big bad and I'm going to say who or what it is. But was that a big jump for you to have like a main antagonist?

Speaker 3 1:11:51

I hated it.

Speaker 2 1:11:52

Yeah, I figured you hated it, but can you like talk to us about that and how it helped shape the newer characters in the story?

Speaker 4 1:12:03

Yeah, so I and other work that I've written, I'm used to having a big bad. I did not like having a big bad in the discerners world because I never wanted Paisley to be a superhero that was fighting the big bad and destroying evil and I didn't want that for her. I just her to be super, super normal, which is why I think that this series is so niche for people, um, and it kind of struggles to grab a new audience because I, I don't have the hero's journey necessarily in the traditional sense, um, that fantasy lovers want, and I don't have a big antagonist keeping the couple apart really at all either. Um, but I did want to do like a little bit of the superhero element and the hero's journey within book two because, um, I opened up the world of magic entirely and gave it to paisley on a silver platter. So I I did write the big bad and I I think it turned out good.

Speaker 2 1:13:11

I just it wasn't the original plan, it turned out really good, and it totally surprised me, because I wasn't expecting that at all that's good.

Speaker 1 1:13:20

All right, dina, it is time for a segment that producer Sean has actually always prepared for Off the wall questions with Sean Darius Holden. Sean, what's your, what's your? What's your question bud?

Speaker 2 1:13:34

Let's see Um what if Paisley could only activate her magic, if she broke out into a spontaneous musical number? What song would she sing specifically when she what moment?

Speaker 1 1:13:52

Oh shit, that's a good question. What's the music, what song that activates her powers?

Speaker 2 1:13:58

Yeah, what song would she have to sing to activate her powers?

Speaker 3 1:14:03

Oh no, I was going to pick a specific moment, but let's just go with in general pink pony by chaperone oh god, let's let the author answer.

Speaker 4 1:14:12

Pal, don't write the witness, I'll just apologize it would either be yes, it would either be um, are you ready for it? By taylor swift, but like you have to have a whole orchestra going like like that, or um, it would be uh, um, uh.

Speaker 1 1:14:34

Let's get down to business it's oh my god, that would be so badass. Oh my god, that would be intimidating. Put that in the chat.

Speaker 3 1:14:43

Just walk in.

Speaker 2 1:14:44

Oh my God, that would be, intimidating. Put that in the chat.

Book Three Easter Egg Revelations

Speaker 1 1:14:49

Oh shit, I love that and actually I think that you should incorporate that next time. The opening scene of book three is Paisley humming to herself as she fucking magic subs and people. No opening scene of book three is some Paisley and ropes and chains with somebody. I'm just kidding. Whoa, oh fuck whoa. 50 shades of paisley adams, um, all right. So, dina, it turns out that the real big bad isn't nathaniel eroth's dad, it's someone much higher up. Just fucking spoil that it's not a spoiler, guys.

Speaker 4 1:15:28

It was obvious from sean was so careful it's definitely a spoiler, you're so careful. It's, it was so careful it's.

Speaker 1 1:15:36

It doesn't give away anything because the real big bad, as it turns out, is the cookie monster. How does this change your book?

Speaker 4 1:15:48

bringing it back to peter sean tyrell baby the cookie monster is actually the shaman that saves life, and paisley appreciates that wow, I did.

Speaker 2 1:16:07

I did like that scene specifically because of challenges and needing to be saved. Um, I also. Before we move on, I just want to like point just off the top of my head, like shoot out some references and maybe easter eggs that you threw in that I noticed and appreciated. Um yeah um, you mentioned arm veins a lot which really resonated with me. There's at least two or three times that you mentioned arm veins, so I thought that was worth noting.

Speaker 2 1:16:36

Um, you made paisley fucking adams like a plot point which I loved, like you took like a bit that we created on the show as a passing joke that we've kept up this whole time into an actual plot point in the book yeah that was so cool professor denton oh yeah, professor denton, who was having some type of medical procedure, I hope he's okay.

Speaker 4 1:17:03

hopefully he's good, don't worry.

Speaker 2 1:17:06

Shannon, the new friend in class, who always has pockets full of chicken nuggets.

Speaker 1 1:17:10

Pocket nugs.

Speaker 2 1:17:12

Pocket nugs for the win. Paisley has a we have Issues podcast hoodie and it's her favorite hoodie apparently.

Speaker 4 1:17:20

Yeah, her butt looks good when she wears it too. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 1:17:25

I love that. I love that. The shorts that definitely. That was one of my absolute favorites. I I had a little chuckle there oh, levi, don't go back don't go back, levi, he really fucked up.

Speaker 2 1:17:39

If I knew he was gonna do that, I would have don't say it again don't repeat it um, there was a ton of easter eggs in here, like all the names that mckayla and paisley called each other the whole time.

Speaker 4 1:17:51

Um, I thought robin's so much research because I do not know my pop culture that well guys, dina, I have been.

Speaker 2 1:17:57

I read dina's annotated copy where she like, points out a number of these easter eggs and a number of them I would have never caught. But you also didn't write notes out a number of these Easter eggs and a number of them I would have never caught. But you also didn't write notes on a number of them that I did catch. So I thought that was cool.

Speaker 4 1:18:10

Really I didn't. I thought that I caught. Okay, I'm sorry. Mostly no, I'm not sorry.

Speaker 2 1:18:15

References and stuff. Oh, you also specifically named Bennett from every wish way in your book, another Shannon shout out. So that was cool.

Speaker 1 1:18:26

No, listen, it was a winner and we're going to be talking about our thoughts and feelings about your book here in a second, but before we do, because that's unclear. So, sean, are we doing number two here in bold? Are we moving on to the next one?

Speaker 2 1:18:40

No, we're not doing number. We're not doing a number two. That's what you're not taking a number two.

Speaker 1 1:18:44

We're not doing a number two. What about?

Speaker 2 1:18:45

a big number, three we could do a three. We could probably do a few threes yeah.

Speaker 1 1:18:49

Well, you know what, while we're getting worked up for a big number three, can I just say, dina, it's time for a part of our show. Proud tradition, it's called the one second pitch. You've got one second to sell these motherfuckers on your book and why they need to do it, and then you know, we'll give you a one second pitch.

Speaker 3 1:19:06

Did you?

Speaker 4 1:19:07

know I forgot.

Speaker 3 1:19:09

I think I got it.

Speaker 1 1:19:12

That's a hundred percent. So you can lie, cheat, seduce, threaten the audience, whatever it takes him to buy this book. But, dina, you got one second. Are you ready? You can give him the white.

Speaker 4 1:19:22

Yeah, give him the white P. Give him the white P here we go Three, two. Magic Mafia Daddy.

Speaker 1 1:19:29

Got it.

Speaker 4 1:19:29

Magic.

Speaker 1 1:19:29

Mafia Daddy, I love it. So, dina, give them the full elevator pitch, man. Why should they check this book out?

Speaker 4 1:19:40

So this book follows Paisley off to college where lots of crazy things happen and you know, people just find themselves and it's all hot and bothered. And, yeah, they experiment and learn about themselves in college and you can follow Paisley with her hot professor and the club owner that you just want to swoon over and Magic Maf, mafia daddy is an entire world of magic out there. Um, she travels to other countries and embarks on a journey to actually save the world.

Speaker 2 1:20:16

So there's an Indiana Jones fantasy in there that I that I particularly liked, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 1:20:21

Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Ben Barnes, baby Ben Barnes.

Speaker 1 1:20:27

Yeah, that's a good one, Ben Barnes, baby Ben Barnes. But um so, sean, are we doing this? Are we going to bring it in? Are we doing this?

Speaker 3 1:20:36

I don't want that.

Speaker 1 1:20:38

Yep, it's going to happen. Guess what, Dina? Your book gets the no Space Bell Prize from the Don't Make it Weird podcast. You are a no Bell Prize winning author, Dina. How does it?

Speaker 4 1:20:50

feel.

Speaker 2 1:20:50

The seal of approval this cup.

Speaker 4 1:20:52

I just want to say to this cup right here how much I love this cup, and this cup has gotten me through a lot of really hard times and I appreciate it a lot. I love you so much, baby, thank you.

Speaker 3 1:21:02

Thank you cup.

Speaker 2 1:21:05

Thank you, thank you, cub, thank you, thank you, cub, thank you. I think you're projecting those feelings that you meant for us onto the Cub.

Speaker 1 1:21:09

Yeah, 100% for us, but that's okay. So listen, we're going to open this up to author questions in a second with the chat and we're going to let you guys after Dina does pee. Oh, we're going to take a quick pee break, all right, so so, sean, are we gonna do? Oh my god, you got the graphic up yes yes, so. So, sean. This means that we can sing to her while she pees, right, is that? Is that what we're doing?

Speaker 4 1:21:30

yeah, I guess so no, I'm gonna take off my headphones. I don't want to listen to you guys while I pee.

Speaker 3 1:21:38

Okay, dina is not the third white pee the regular pea because she's hydrated shannon, your favorite bit is the nobel prize, is it really?

Speaker 2 1:21:50

thank you, shannon, you're just gonna feed daniel's ego like that we are very serious podcast with very serious awards here.

Speaker 1 1:21:59

Okay, not just everyone gets the nobel prize here just everyone. Actually I okay, but here Just everyone actually Okay, but the people before I thought of a bit never got it.

Speaker 2 1:22:10

Dewey never misses a chance to insert the whip gif, you guys. It's at the top of his favorites, the top of his favorites. Dina is giving a lot of love to inanimate objects tonight. Yes, she is matthew, and you just earned yourself an entry into the raffle for the sneak attack contest oh my god, she had another one yeah, that was the last one too. So that game's over. Don't look out for more bits anymore there's no more bits, guys.

Speaker 2 1:22:44

This is just our own stupidity at this also, I really, really hope that matthew was the first person to mention that it'll be fine, it'll be fine, it's fine everything's fine, um so.

Speaker 1 1:23:00

So, sean, could you sing the dean a little bit, could just.

Speaker 2 1:23:05

She took her earphones out, dude, and she's not listening.

Speaker 1 1:23:07

Allegedly the camera's off. We don't know that. It could very well still be in her ears.

Speaker 2 1:23:13

I mean it is the kind of thing she would do. But I really did believe her when she said she didn't want to hear us while she pees.

Speaker 3 1:23:20

Or something special. Now, this is come on.

Speaker 1 1:23:26

This is yeah. It's like it's like the other song that we did what? No, it's like we're gonna do the something special song. I thought we were doing this oh, is that?

Speaker 2 1:23:34

is that a song? Is that a real?

Speaker 3 1:23:38

song special now, page the adams don't know how to frown. If you like to get on down, get something special now, see I got a new drink because I turned off my opportunity to get a new drink I

Speaker 1 1:24:00

know, perfect, all right, so. So, dina, before we open the questions up to the audience, I I just want to take a second and and tell you how freaking proud I am now you could be a sponsor baby. This is shit's good, tina I don't even like mango dina, I need you to focus up right now, dina, need you to focus up. You focused. I need, I need eye contact.

Speaker 1 1:24:23

I need like daniel, get to the fucking point because I'm really fucking proud of this book and and this one. I know that you've said all the time this is a harder book. This was a harder book for you to write Because the first book was your emotion, was everything it was, and the second book, you didn't know how to write this book. Series was never meant to be a series, it was meant to be a standalone and you opened it up and what you did with this magic magic honestly for you saying that you were less emotionally connected. I was more emotionally connected with her journey in this book than even the first one, and you've sold yourself short by how good this book is and people need to understand that. You said it yourself. You are leveling up as an author. You are already fucking great before and you are even better now and I'm so proud of you and I'm so happy I got to read this book, man, and I can't wait to see you keep on going on this journey. Dina, I absolutely love you to death, man.

Speaker 4 1:25:20

I'm so proud of you thank you, daniel, that was actually really nice you get one of those a year.

Speaker 1 1:25:26

Maybe I just need to not connect one of those per book.

Speaker 2 1:25:31

So, matthew, no, I did not let her know, and I assume that she was being honest when she said she took your headphones off. So, um, the game's over. Matthew guessed your thing about loving inanimate objects okay, yeah, you know, I saw his comment oh, okay, so you were still looking at the comments I messaged you about it while I was peeing. Oh, you did Well, I happened to notice before you, but I noticed your message, so here we go.

Speaker 1 1:25:58

And Dina. I want to put on top of this because Sean is going to be too humble about this. Sean, as you guys know and this isn't like a slight, I'm not actually making fun of him here because we've talked about before. For anyone that doesn't know what the show Sean's not a big reader. Before this podcast, it'd been probably since high school since the last time he'd read a book that like from beginning to end, because it's just not how he consumes media. And so not only did he read the first book, but he wanted to go out of his way to make sure that he read this whole book for you before, before this show, and him texting and talking about how much he was loving it and how just gripped he was with it. It made me so freaking happy because we're turning this guy into a fucking reader. I will send you screenshots, I promise you.

Speaker 2 1:26:42

I got you, not my private messages.

Book Release Q&A With Raffles

Speaker 1 1:26:45

Well, it's not the nudes man, those don't exist. Well, they they do. I'll send you my search history okay.

Speaker 2 1:26:53

So before we get to q a, you guys, we're going to ask you guys for questions for dina about the book or about her series or whatever, so cue those up. While you do that, I'm going to cue up the sneak attack raffle. So these are all the people that guessed a sneak attack thing correctly on a wheel. We're going to spin this thing and whoever lands on Dina will send them a special edition hardcover vomit copy of the book $500 and I'll throw up on it for you.

Speaker 2 1:27:22

Yeah, $500, actually live stream special 50% off $250.

Speaker 4 1:27:31

She'll vomit on it for you. I have a birthday coming up.

Speaker 2 1:27:32

Guys buy the book.

Speaker 1 1:27:33

300 birthday special guys, start putting those questions into the chat right now. Any questions that you have about dina's book, dina her hair, sean's hair hair, I mean whatever. Just start throwing down some questions. Man, let's get after this.

Speaker 2 1:27:51

And I'm going to spin the wheel. Let's see who won the hardcover. Ooh, no sound for the spin, though. We've got to fix that.

Speaker 4 1:28:00

Here's the spin sound. Let's go, matthew.

Speaker 3 1:28:05

Matthew.

Speaker 2 1:28:11

Man Matthew drops in at the end after his kid's birthday, gets one entry and takes it home. What a guy let's go, let's go that guy deserves it, though, because he's our faithful sword in the chat sword and shield you know he's. He's always been there for us, so I'm really really happy to see that um you guys.

Speaker 3 1:28:34

We are going to give away a couple more paperbacks.

Speaker 2 1:28:37

So so, if you didn't win yet, don't worry, there'll be another chance yeah, man, if you win the paperback.

Speaker 4 1:28:43

Send pictures because I don't know what it looks like you don't have a copy of your own book.

Speaker 2 1:28:49

I have the special edition.

Speaker 4 1:28:52

I actually thought that I was going to have to do a reading, so I saved my spot. But no, I have the special edition.

Speaker 2 1:28:58

You wanted to do a reading. I wasn't going to make you do a reading. I didn't think you'd want to.

Speaker 4 1:29:02

Oh, I didn't care.

Speaker 2 1:29:04

See that's why I asked about the number two, yeah, it was on the rundown and I didn't. I didn't ask you ahead of time if you wanted to do it, so I said just skip it. Do you guys want dina to do a reading right now? I gotta do the reading.

Speaker 1 1:29:15

Dina, do the reading give me a chance I'm gonna do a poll in the chat real quick all right, and guys again, ask any questions you have about dina, her books, uh, her, any of her previous books, anything that you man, this is your chance to connect directly with Dina. She will make iBabies with every single person asking a question in this chat. Just trust us, it's fine, get there, get there.

Speaker 4 1:29:38

Reading Rainbow.

Speaker 3 1:29:41

Butterfly in the sky. The poll is in the chat.

Speaker 2 1:29:43

You guys should see it in the live chat right now. Paisley is twice as high.

Speaker 3 1:29:50

It's in a book. Just take a look, it's the sternus trilogy I think the the results it's pretty obvious yes, I regret you're not getting it.

Speaker 4 1:30:01

Yeah, you didn't even have to say anything about this.

Speaker 2 1:30:05

I regret you didn't even have to say anything about this.

Speaker 4 1:30:08

Justin, next time we team at work, I'll make iBubbies with you, okay iBubbies, ibubbies with you iBubbies, yeah, oh my god, there's an actual poll.

Speaker 2 1:30:23

Yep, every vote is yes, dina. So you know the needful, you need to do the needful.

Speaker 1 1:30:29

Go ahead and whip it out, dina, just fucking whip that bad boy out do I?

Speaker 4 1:30:33

okay, wait, I. I would usually dialogue about this with you guys backstage, so we're just gonna do it here. Do I read the diary entry too?

Speaker 1 1:30:44

I love your diary entry, so the answer is yes. All right, those are probably my favorite little vignettes.

Speaker 4 1:30:51

Okay, I can't pronounce my chapter titles, so don't ask me to do that. Thank you, pain, you rotten cancerous ulcer. It's odd to see so little of my own perspective, to have no idea what others do in their worlds when they're away from me. They could be cheating and I would never know. Not unless the fake world and the real world collided. That would be a disaster.

Speaker 4 1:31:36

I wonder what James' real world is doing right now compared to the one in my head for him. I wonder how Nathaniel feels after his real world crashed into mine, signed World Walker hands, I cut straight to the chase, desperate to forget about everything else. Part of me hoped I could pretend he was someone else and not a gross stranger who doesn't smell good. I mean, put on some cologne if you're going to be out dancing and trying to pick up women. I pull away from him, tired of being bored and miserable. Sorry, this isn't working. What do you mean? He asks and tries to kiss my neck again. I push him back and before he even has a chance to get frustrated, I slash across his chest with my magic and change his feelings about me entirely. He doesn't want to kiss me, he doesn't want to do anything with me. He feels nothing for me. It's not you, it's me. I say he accepts the line, walking away with no hard feelings. I throw myself lazily on the couch this is Nathaniel's club Diacrino. But he's not here.

Speaker 4 1:32:29

Ezekiel assured me he wouldn't be here tonight. I refuse to explain to Ezekiel why I'm avoiding Nathaniel. The last thing I need is for his bro to be involved. He'd lie and cover for him. No doubt. I've been ignoring dozens of calls and texts, leaving them entirely unopened. I'm quite proud of my self-restraint. I made Ezekiel promise not to tell Nathaniel we'd be here or that. I asked if he was going to be here or not. Michaela reassured me he'd keep that promise. I don't want to know how she is able to make him keep that promise.

Speaker 4 1:32:56

Another drink from the bar sounds ideal. It'll help keep me distracted. Maybe it will even make me interested in kissing another guy At the bar. While I wait for my drink, I hear his voice behind me, dark and smooth like coffee. I could have you kicked out for underage drinking. You know he shouldn't be here. Ezekiel assured me he would be working late at his lab. Crap. I shouldn't talk to him in this state. I turned to Nathaniel with a sensual grace I didn't think I was capable of portraying. I shouldn't act like this. I should be flat out mad. But I want to know if I was more than a stupid fling he used. You wouldn't dare play that game, would you, professor? I raise one eyebrow and try to restrain my own smirk fucking love it.

Speaker 1 1:33:41

Man leveled up for sure as a writer, I I can't. I can't. It was such a good scene. Like I said, she starts kicking some ass with her magic in this one. So, guys, here is your opportunity. We got one question in the chat we actually got two, because we're going to get that one from the previous tag back but anything you got, man, anything you got about magic, dina, dinosaurs, her feelings On which days of the week, or even or odd, just just fucking Ask some questions.

Speaker 2 1:34:06

Man Like Our friend Levi wants to know, now that you've met sean and daniel, what are their colors?

Speaker 4 1:34:18

um, I would say that daniel Daniel is green and yellow and Sean is purple.

Speaker 1 1:34:38

A purple man. He's a purple man. Okay, I can get on board with that. I don't know what those colors signify.

Emotional Impact and Endgame Theories

Speaker 2 1:34:49

A little fuchsia, if will fuchsia um rebecca wants to know um, I know you said you didn't want a big bad but had one anyway in book two. So was it intentional that the bb big bad has more of an emotional impact before large world implications?

Speaker 4 1:35:08

I don't understand the question.

Speaker 2 1:35:10

What, what rebecca rephrase the big bad has more large world implications oh, like like the external world, that he has more of an emotional impact before it becomes larger world implications I'm not my brain's not following I'm sorry, I'm not following your mouth, so I'm not gonna I'll wait, I'll wait till she well before we, I'll wait for her to clarify and then, before that, can we go back?

Speaker 2 1:35:45

because, levi, I have been in numerous country clubs oh my god so like I don't know if you you saw all of the comments after your excerpt but, like everyone, fucking loved it.

Speaker 4 1:36:11

I did not look.

Speaker 2 1:36:12

People are excited to read about it. Oh, shannon wants to know. Do we get a hint of who will be endgame in book three?

Speaker 1 1:36:21

Listen, I changed my answer from what I thought it would be after book one to what my answer is now after book two.

Speaker 4 1:36:26

So I'm fascinated by this one to what my answer is now, after book two. So I'm fascinated by this. I think that it is obvious who endgame I know who endgame is. Um, I did decide. Finally, I think it's obvious, but logan, isn't it?

Speaker 1 1:36:45

I almost did that just to piss everybody off you would have had a fucking riot if you'd done that how fucking funny would that have?

Speaker 4 1:36:54

been um. Rebecca said that logan redemption. Rebecca can't rephrase her question without spoiling, so rebecca, can you message me with the spoiler and then, like, I'll answer without?

Speaker 2 1:37:06

a call? Yeah, yeah, slide into them, dms have we thought about? Michaela and paisley's being the end game.

Speaker 1 1:37:13

I actually I stand this, I stand this oh shit thank you, levi but are we not going to talk about how michela and Paisley should be the end game? I I'm in. I support. Levi and I talked about I wasn't going to say that, but like I'm getting strong vibes, you know, I just feel like it does not make that Shannon's like the love triangle Like the real love triangle is in book three is between Shannon and Michaela.

Speaker 4 1:37:43

Michaela just needs some, you know arm veins and then it'll be a done deal. Yep 100.

Speaker 2 1:37:53

I yeah, I didn't realize that was happening, but um, oh, I was about to answer the audience, but I'll wait ashley hutchison would like to know would you say that the standards paisley gives us for interpreting the meaning behind each color varies from discerner to discerner, as in? Does perspective matter or do those standards solid, or are those standards solid? That's a great question.

Speaker 4 1:38:11

Please hold. No, put it back up there.

Speaker 2 1:38:14

Oh my God, I have a okay.

Speaker 4 1:38:16

I need to read it.

Speaker 2 1:38:18

I read it aloud for you I everybody stopped talking.

Speaker 4 1:38:22

I'm way too drunk, Hold on.

Speaker 3 1:38:28

I had it on for a second.

Speaker 2 1:38:30

Okay, I had it. So when I pop comments on the screen, it stays for 10 seconds and automatically disappears, because I hate having to remember to take it away. So I had to go turn off the setting to automatically remove it. So now it will stay okay, I'm so.

Speaker 4 1:38:42

Well, you, you can take it down. Um, yeah, I would say that they, they definitely vary from discerner to discerner what each color means. Every color means something different to them and I think that it has a lot to do with, like, with their um, I guess background because, like, remember, let's remember that paisley's dad is colorblind. He, he's going to interpret everything he sees very differently, but it's still going to be accurate to him. But he's going to see something else that Paisley doesn't see.

Speaker 3 1:39:17

Right.

Speaker 1 1:39:18

Yeah, yeah, that's a great answer. That's why she's been asking the what color is math question on our show for a year.

Speaker 2 1:39:24

Okay, Our friend Levi would like to know. Paisley gets dropped into the world of fast and the furious. What's the plot of that movie?

Speaker 4 1:39:32

bro, never, never seen any of them. Um just family. Just say family, it's fine just familia um perfect. I just really love paul walker in that song. I would say that paisley would be able to kick every bad guy's ass Right and like just give them to get there. Yeah, Get them to give her the cars Right. They steal cars.

Speaker 2 1:40:00

You know it kind of we talked about this before. I want to do a thing where we have Dina describe the plot of a movie she's never seen before, because I feel like I'm so good at it, like like of iconic movies even movies you've seen before, because I feel like you would. You would still be really entertaining you want to know.

Speaker 1 1:40:20

What's funny, though, is that, unintentionally, I would say that fast and furious is doing the same thing that dina's doing with her books, because book one is very grounded in reality every time. The first fast and the furious is very grounded in reality.

Speaker 2 1:40:33

Uh, the last fast and the furious involves tanks and flying helicopters and like all the car stuff like way over the top and completely I can see why they're gonna get to 10.

Speaker 4 1:40:42

oh, hold on everybody, daniel sing. Hold on everybody, daniel sing Rebecca's messaging me.

Speaker 3 1:40:48

Oh, there's something special now, cause the autumn's gonna frown. If you like the magic, now check out something special Are you doing the His Ragged Company?

Speaker 2 1:41:02

look, right now, that's exactly what I'm doing you, fucking dick.

Speaker 1 1:41:10

Oh God.

Speaker 2 1:41:16

I really Go ahead Dina.

Speaker 1 1:41:18

Sorry, yeah continue.

Speaker 4 1:41:19

Can we pull Rebecca's question up now, because I understand what she's saying? Sweet Jesus. You're welcome Sean. Thank you for making this such a great night there you go, it's back on the screen okay.

Speaker 4 1:41:31

Question for dina. I know you said you didn't want a big bad, damn it, but had, but had one anyway in book two. So was it intentional that the big bad has more of an emotional impact before large world implications? Yes, I wanted. Even though I implemented a big bad, I still wanted it to be about an emotional journey, because that is the heart of the Discerners trilogy. Even if I didn't want to write this book in a new way, I still wanted it to be grounded in the original sense of the trilogy way and I I still wanted it to be grounded in the original sense of the trilogy. So, yes, it was intentional that everything that happens is about manipulating emotions before it has an impact on the exterior, greater world how funny would have been if she just answered yes and then left it at that.

Speaker 2 1:42:26

After all that so catching up on some old comments that came in after some previous questions. Matthew said Thanos is endgame Fair. Levi reiterated that give me Mikaela and Paisley or give me death. Shannon is saying you are scaring me in all caps. I assume that was in answer to the reaction to the end game question yes, it was uh, samantha wants to know do you have to read book one in order to read book two, or is it like an interconnected standalone?

Speaker 4 1:43:03

ashley, close your ears, your muffs. I don't think you have to know what's going on from book one to book two. I think that you could get a good grasp of the people just in book two. I think that you would be missing out on a lot of who paisley is without book one. But I think that you could read book two and be like, okay, I like you could fall in love with the characters still. But at the end of book two you wouldn't understand how grave the the matter is. You would be a little bit like. You wouldn't like. The cliffhanger wouldn't hit as hard.

Speaker 1 1:43:51

Yeah, for what it's worth. Just as a reader, I kind of would agree with that. You don't need to read book one to understand. You won't be lost in book two if you did not read book one, but book two won't have the same emotional impact if you didn't read book one.

Speaker 2 1:44:08

Shannon says everyone should ask their questions in one syllable words thank you poetry for one more question.

Speaker 1 1:44:15

Buddy, we can do this with one more can we do six to twelve more?

Speaker 2 1:44:20

yeah.

Speaker 4 1:44:21

I'm in there was a lot of questions. I can go fast if we want to try to get to everybody's questions.

Speaker 2 1:44:24

You don't have to go fast. Remember when France was our friend lol hashtag. I miss qbc in the chat. Um how much of your writing captures the real world you live in? That's a question from justin young in the chat I would say probably 80 percent.

Speaker 4 1:44:47

Like, the relationships are all very real and it's like 97. These are all real people the experiences are real hashtag magic is real hashtag I miss qbc most of it's real, minus the magic allegedly levi would like to know will there be a time travel plot in book 3?

Speaker 2 1:45:10

I will tell you that Dina was like it completely went off the rails, so I'm not surprised if there's time travel, she said there was espionage, who knows?

Speaker 4 1:45:19

yeah, um, honestly, levi, when you asked me that a while ago, I was like that's so smart and I should totally do that, but I don't have the energy to do that right now. So, no, I'll write a time travel book for you eventually. How about that?

Speaker 2 1:45:36

love it love it, and becky is gonna round us out here. Who is your least favorite character to write and why?

Speaker 4 1:45:53

James.

Speaker 2 1:45:53

Whoa, oh, I have to say why, fuck?

Speaker 4 1:45:58

I didn't expect that answer. Yeah, because it was difficult to oh character that was so realistic to my life, while still making other people fall in love with him because I hope this person chokes on their own piss but like and I had to like manipulate the character to fit into what an audience would want so that I didn't like, I don't like writing him at all.

Speaker 1 1:46:33

Fair enough, fair enough, all right. So, dina, you've survived, we've made it all the way to the end here, and we only have time for one more giveaway. Sean, what's our word for this final, final giveaway?

Speaker 2 1:46:50

the final giveaway, which I'm not furiously setting up right here at the last second I can sing again.

Speaker 1 1:46:57

Would you like me to sing again?

Speaker 4 1:46:58

no the window is open, so is that floor? It didn't know.

Book Release Celebration Winners Announcement

Speaker 2 1:47:03

They did that and he more um the final keyword to win a copy of something special by dns is paisley in the chat, which is short form for paisley fucking adams paisley, fucking adams say her goddamn name who knew we owned 8,000 solid blades. Becky says this was not the answer I expected. Yeah, me too. I was shocked by that answer.

Speaker 3 1:47:37

Yeah, yeah, levi's got a good point here.

Speaker 2 1:47:40

They said colors are light particles, slash waves and they can travel through time. So there's all this set up for interpreting sending messages into the past, slash future, with the color pushing changes. It's right there. It's so close, right in front of you.

Speaker 4 1:47:53

Here's the thing, though Particles and waves move, and the theory within the book is that, in order to time travel, you have to be able to vibrate at the speed of light without actually moving. So it's a conundrum. It's not possible using light.

Speaker 1 1:48:15

So if only someone built a really powerful vibrator.

Speaker 2 1:48:19

Sabian machine.

Speaker 4 1:48:20

Maybe Daniel will.

Speaker 2 1:48:25

Sabian machine.

Speaker 1 1:48:27

I got you. He has no idea what that, what that machine is, um, anyways, back on topic hashtag in the chat oh, hi, josh, I don't know who you are, but I Josh Holston.

Speaker 2 1:48:45

I saw your name a couple times in the giveaways. You're just lurking.

Speaker 4 1:48:49

I was like intrigued.

Speaker 2 1:48:52

Justin says he loves your curls Dina.

Speaker 1 1:48:56

I bet Josh is a cowboy. Josh Holston sounds like a guy who's out on the range.

Speaker 4 1:49:03

Honestly, I was thinking that too a little bit. I was like hey, cowboy. Felix is here, Hi boo hey.

Speaker 3 1:49:13

Hey.

Speaker 1 1:49:16

If only Felix and the Art of Floating was a book title.

Speaker 4 1:49:20

I'm not going to say why, but I take back what I said about Josh. Hi friends Just got a message. Hi friends, just got a message.

Speaker 2 1:49:33

Alright, I think everyone's entered who's going to enter? So let's roll it.

Speaker 1 1:49:39

If you can type fast, Not fast enough, let's go Fucking roll it Sean.

Speaker 2 1:49:45

Rolling it now.

Speaker 1 1:49:51

Did it roll? I mean, it has Levi as the winner. It's just Levi.

Speaker 2 1:49:55

Okay, hold on. I need to reset it, hold on.

Speaker 1 1:49:58

Sorry, Levi.

Speaker 4 1:49:59

Levi, definitely DM me your theory. Oh, thank you, Felix, for watching.

Speaker 2 1:50:03

All right, eight participant, here we go. Okay, so it just went to one person's name instead of actually rolling. So All right, eight participant, here we go. Okay, so it just went to one person's name instead of actually rolling. So Okay, we're going to call this. Samantha want a copy.

Speaker 3 1:50:18

We don't talk about Samantha.

Speaker 2 1:50:22

It's supposed to have been for longer than that. I like Samantha.

Speaker 1 1:50:27

It's been a fun addition to the show and, samantha, I hope you will come and hang out with us more often because you're a delight been for longer than that. I like samantha. It's been a fun addition to the show and, samantha, I hope you will come and hang out with us more often because you're a delight samantha hangs out at every live that I do, that you don't come to, daniel dang. Oh, so she's there a lot yeah yeah, let's roll it again.

Speaker 1 1:50:41

I'm gonna roll it again yeah, fuck it, let's roll it again, why not? We're here for the money.

Speaker 4 1:50:44

Baby becky just wanted a copy and for the record, rebecca it Becky just won a copy, becky and for the record, rebecca, it has changed since you last read it.

Speaker 2 1:50:56

And Becca? And did you say Becca? Hi babies. Yeah, I said Becca.

Speaker 1 1:50:59

We've said Becky, we've said Rebecca. It's time for her to be a Becca as well.

Speaker 2 1:51:02

What about Reb? You ever get that one. Becky, you ever get Reb.

Speaker 1 1:51:04

Ooh Reb. Yeah, Reb Rebby's a good one, I like that.

Speaker 4 1:51:08

Why call him Tim when Moth is right there?

Speaker 2 1:51:12

I know right Moth is right there, right there.

Speaker 1 1:51:17

Are we going to do one more, I guess.

Speaker 2 1:51:18

I have to read it again. Yeah, I'm going to roll it again. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 1:51:21

Fuck it.

Speaker 2 1:51:27

We'll do it live. Reset and roll. I'm going to roll it again.

Speaker 1 1:51:30

It's just Becky. Literally Becky's the only name, oh, and.

Speaker 2 1:51:33

Samantha Heather. All right, heather. Congratulations to our winners tonight. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Reach out to me at Sean, at dmiwpodcastcom, um, or at dmiw podcast on twitter, and I will get your address and I'll send you a copy of the book man and and so guys.

Speaker 1 1:52:00

I just want to thank you guys so much for hanging out with us for this entire show. Uh, this is such an incredible experience, even after now. We've been doing this for three years.

Speaker 4 1:52:11

Why did his audio go out?

Speaker 2 1:52:12

Yeah, he just cut out. Hold on, daniel, can you?

Speaker 1 1:52:15

hear me. Yeah, no, we're good. I accidentally hit mute.

Speaker 4 1:52:19

Okay, it's John and we have issues all over again.

Speaker 1 1:52:23

Oh no, that was a really funny God. I forgot about that ending. I'm going to have to rewatch that, but I just want to thank you guys all so much for being a part of this man, for being part of our show, for hanging out with us for three years. We started out doing this before either of us had ever written a or not written but published a single book. And man, just to be here with you guys. We freaking love you all so much much. Dina, what do you got? Any final thoughts and shots for your? Uh?

Speaker 4 1:52:49

audience, your friends, your fans, everyone in between. Thanks for coming out when I'm not pregnant, so I can actually celebrate my book coming out. Well, yay perfect.

Speaker 1 1:52:57

Uh, where can the folks find you?

Speaker 4 1:53:00

you can find me on threads at dinosaurs dmiw, and you can find me on twitter at dininosaurusD. That's D like D's nuts D, hey, oh my god, it's Tom again.

Speaker 3 1:53:15

I love him so much.

Speaker 1 1:53:21

I thought he had another message and I got excited. You can find me on threads at Daniel Quigley Author that's just my fucking name and actually a really good title, and I wish that I had done that on both of my accounts. You can find me on Twitter at Dan Q writes things singular, that's Dan Q. Just thank you. Thank you, sean. Thank you Sean. Where can the folks find you bud?

Speaker 2 1:53:47

You can find me on xcom at chase holdu what you having for dinner night man uh, we ordered pizza, round table pizza, not a sponsor I miss you round table.

Indie Book of the Year Hype

Speaker 1 1:54:00

God, such a good time. All right, guys. Thank you so much for joining us. Check out, uh, something special available now. You will not it? This is the indie book of the year. I'm calling it now. I'm putting my hat on it. It's that fucking good. You guys need to check this book out. Until next time. We'll see you all later. Jazz hands.