Let's embark on a fascinating scentventure as we journey through the world of fragrances! Today, we'll explore the alluring facets of some unique scents, starting with the sweet yet generic Gold, and the unexpected Book that surprisingly mirrors Santel 33. We'll also be dissecting the complex world of fragrance concentrations, peeling back the layers to understand the different olfactory experiences each one brings.
We're thrilled to welcome our guest, Grant from Fragdude85 on Instagram, who will be shedding light on the beguiling history of Creed fragrances. Prepare to have your minds blown as we uncover the brand's dubious origins, tracing its inception back to the 1950s and scrutinizing its advertised history that's been, quite intriguingly, falsified. Our chat with Grant will also touch upon our personal experiences with Creed fragrances, the evolution of our opinions about the brand, and the importance of quality assurance when investing in fragrances.
Finally, we'll stir up a lively debate on the pros and cons of owning a massive fragrance collection versus a carefully curated one. We'll also delve into the often unspoken fear of judgement when wearing certain fragrances, and share our advice on managing this anxiety. From the scent of moss, Zaharoff's fragrances, to the scent of paper and milk, you can trust us for a comprehensive discussion on a broad spectrum of scents. In the end, we'll remind you why it's essential to find the fragrances that resonate with your identity. So join us as we navigate the enthralling world of fragrances, brimming with fascinating stories, experiences, and advice. Trust us; your olfactory senses will thank you!
Let's embark on a fascinating scentventure as we journey through the world of fragrances! Today, we'll explore the alluring facets of some unique scents, starting with the sweet yet generic Gold, and the unexpected Book that surprisingly mirrors Santel 33. We'll also be dissecting the complex world of fragrance concentrations, peeling back the layers to understand the different olfactory experiences each one brings.
We're thrilled to welcome our guest, Grant from Fragdude85 on Instagram, who will be shedding light on the beguiling history of Creed fragrances. Prepare to have your minds blown as we uncover the brand's dubious origins, tracing its inception back to the 1950s and scrutinizing its advertised history that's been, quite intriguingly, falsified. Our chat with Grant will also touch upon our personal experiences with Creed fragrances, the evolution of our opinions about the brand, and the importance of quality assurance when investing in fragrances.
Finally, we'll stir up a lively debate on the pros and cons of owning a massive fragrance collection versus a carefully curated one. We'll also delve into the often unspoken fear of judgement when wearing certain fragrances, and share our advice on managing this anxiety. From the scent of moss, Zaharoff's fragrances, to the scent of paper and milk, you can trust us for a comprehensive discussion on a broad spectrum of scents. In the end, we'll remind you why it's essential to find the fragrances that resonate with your identity. So join us as we navigate the enthralling world of fragrances, brimming with fascinating stories, experiences, and advice. Trust us; your olfactory senses will thank you!
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Cologne podcast.
Myke:I'm Mike and I'm Ryan. We're two best friends. We're going on a fragrance journey, smelling fragrances and giving you those uneducated opinions and apparently Mario sound bites as well.
Ryan:Hello, we got a special one today. It's kind of a twofer at the same time.
Myke:Yeah, it's an on the house and a special interview where we had friend of the podcast, Fragdude 85. And this has been a long time and we apologize to Grant for this. But here it is now, the long-waited debut. We're going to answer some of the questions he had for us, talk about a few different things and smell commodities, discovery stuff. Yeah, you know, because that's what you do.
Ryan:Before the show lots of energy, ryan fucking bring it and I'm like I don't know.
Myke:discovery sets.
Ryan:Yeah, you bought this discovery set a while back, didn't you? Like a year ago, and he's been wanting to smell it and it's not on this one. But I have smelled one of their stuff. You had given me wool, which you've talked about in other episodes. Yeah, you didn't really care for too much and I'm going to be real with you, mike, I only sprayed it the one time that you gave it to me. I smelled it that day.
Myke:Bring it back. We'll give it to a lucky Patreon because, yeah, they'll love that. We had a lady friend of the podcast tell us oh, somebody wears that around me and it's done, I can't be around them. That's just one. It's too sexy of a fragrance. I was like, well, here's how they cheat you. It's not in the discovery set. So I was like, damn, it must be good and I bought it and I was like, yeah, I was even less than a myth.
Myke:Yeah, I was like I was not turned on. Yeah, very turned off. Well, you know what? Let's go ahead and start smelling these and then we'll introduce our first segment into the interview.
Ryan:Okay, let's get started. Let's start with two. You do one, I do one. Okay, I'll go with the book and I guess, by default, I will go with gold. Yeah, because in everything in life, you get to choose first Gold. Gold also came with its own Tester strips. Yeah, that are labeled. We're not going to spray these on us right now, right?
Myke:Oh, no, no, we're not. Although book. Oh, just stop, dude. No, I'm serious, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, it's just a fragrance. I'm going to see what you think it smells like.
Ryan:Gold kind of smells. Okay, it's all right, tell me what.
Myke:I'm passing book over to Ryan and I'm passing gold to you. Tell me if this smells like something you've smelled before.
Ryan:What is that? We have smelled this before. Hold on, what the fuck is it?
Myke:Smells like Santel 33. Oh my God, it does. I like it. I'm shocked. I don't think it's as loud. No, it's not like one to one, but that's kind of close. What does gold smell like? I just kind of I don't know, Hmm.
Ryan:Kind of sweet, yeah, kind of like like you're in purgatory you don't know really where it's going, just sitting there in limbo.
Myke:I feel like I need to spray a little bit more on here, go for it, it's going quick, although I did get like the lowest concentration version. They have like two or three different concentrations. Instead of doing like a EDP, edt sort of a thing, they do like a proximity of fragrance Okay, hmm, I don't know what gold smells like. It smells good, kind of sweet smelling.
Ryan:I guess this is kind of tapping in what you're just saying. Introducing this is a booklet that came with it. I feel like we should talk a little bit about it. Okay, introducing scent space. Yeah, scent space TM. Doing away with old industry jargon. You know, that's why we use scent. Doing away with the whole industry jargon. We've created a scent space to give you greater control over the intensity and projection of your scent and commodity. Fragrance is available in three different scent space concentrations Personal, expressive and bold.
Myke:You would be bold. I would be probably either personal or I think it's expressive actually for you.
Ryan:You think so. Yeah, you've been liking a little bit of that projection where somebody's walking up to you and going, hey, what do you wear?
Myke:it Well, everybody likes a compliment, Ryan.
Fragdude85:Jesus.
Myke:Gold's pretty good. I don't know what it smells like. It smells sweet and generic, though.
Ryan:Yeah, book just smells like a Santel 33's little brother.
Myke:Yeah, it's actually a surprisingly good dupe for that. That may be one we have to spray on and see what it acts like, because that could be an alternative.
Ryan:So apparently you got the expressive collection. So this is middle of the road every time.
Myke:Oh yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense.
Ryan:Let me read a little bit about book for you. Okay. So crisp woody fragrance tips its hat to the hemming ways and fix Gerald's of the world. Really, didn't hemming way blow his fucking brains out, probably? Okay. So that's nice, conjuring the warmth of a quiet moment curled up with a good book, or that sweet silence after you've blown your head off. Yeah, maybe that doesn't say that in here. By the way, he's ad-libbing some things. Oh my God.
Myke:Here you're discouraging all the future authors out there.
Ryan:It's complex blend of sparkling bergamot, spicy cypress and creamy sandalwood that's majority of it Results in an unexpectedly fresh scent. It's nice.
Myke:Yeah, it's high. What about gold Ryan?
Ryan:Gold Rich enough to bathe in. I don't know about that. This decadent fragrance is an intoxicating journey to one's innermost desires, thoughts and impulses. Its warm, gourmand scent is a luxurious blend of molten amber.
Myke:Whoa, whoa, whoa commodity. Let's get rid of that industry jargon, Gourmand yeah.
Ryan:Man, there's a lot of things going on here, guys. Yeah, let's see blend of molten amber, creamy sandalwood and sweet vanilla. I guess I kind of smelled vanilla. Yeah, I was about to say yeah.
Myke:I kind of get that.
Ryan:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So far I'm like they're not bad, they're not bad.
Myke:Yeah, I mean, there are no king of niche so far. Yeah, rich, why don't we go ahead and jump into our first segment with Grant Fragdude85 from Instagram, where he asked us how we feel about Creed and those king of niche fragrances that they make?
Ryan:Hit the play button Todd.
Fragdude85:What is your take on the house of Creed? Because I read the Ghost Perfumer book. Okay, if you haven't read it you need to. But they kind of are a big scam. You know Creed? Yeah, because they say that they made perfumes for, like, french kings back in the 1770s, and all that when, in fact, they really didn't start making actual fragrances to like the 1950s, early 60s, gotcha, okay, and it started out as mainly being just catered to celebrities. Celebrities could only buy it and kind of word got out. You know, when you would ask a celebrity what they were wearing, they would say by Creed, you know like, well, who's Creed, you know. And then right, but all of their like, for instance, the Mont Blanc individual they copied that fragrance as Royal Saint-Tal. That's a clone of individual.
Ryan:Yeah, I remember us smelling that and they definitely are close. They are pretty similar. Yeah, in fact I have Mont Blanc individual.
Fragdude85:Yes, yeah, that came out first, and then Creed put those out like a few months or a year after, so they copied it. It was to get back from when the guy did Cool Water and he copied the Green Eye was.
Ryan:Tweed yeah, we used to smell Cool Water dude. We have that and we got a bottle of it. Why would we not smell Cool Water?
Fragdude85:Yeah, and if you read that book it goes into the whole like background is totally faked.
Ryan:Well, it's funny, as you mentioned that, because just this past week I put that in my shopping cart on Amazon. Oh, I was going to order. I didn't. I wouldn't get the hard copy I was going to get to like for the whatever Kindle or what we call it. Yeah, you can do like. I think there may be an audio version of it. I don't know, but that would be my speed. That's what I was wanting to do because I hate like physically reading, but I was wanting to read it for real, because I was thinking back to our Jack Fat episode. Oh, yeah.
Ryan:But I've been wanting to, you know, read that book. So I'm definitely going to check that out. But kind of, speaking about Creed, it's funny, like I mean I'm just going to keep all the history part of it out because I don't haven't read the book or know everything to weigh in on it. But I will say, at first we loved it and then we kind of went through a phase of man it feels a little overpriced, yeah, and we felt like we weren't getting enough out of the juice to justify it. And now it's kind of like. It's kind of like sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, I guess I don't know. I don't like hate the brand. I mean I definitely love Creed of Ventus. We smell it now and I'm like it lasts longer than I thought it did initially. I wore it yesterday.
Myke:It's incredible, yeah, for me. Maybe I should care more about the brands. But I think I've gone through this roller coaster ride of like. Maybe at the beginning I didn't know anything about the brands and I was just interested in the fragrances, and then I got really interested in the fragrances and the brands and now I'm kind of coming back down to where I'm just like let me just smell it. If it smells great, I'm excited about it, if it doesn't, I'm not. And I have found myself less loyal to brands now. But early on that was like our Porsche, lamborghini, whatever. We thought that Creed was the top of the line, because that is like the most known niche brand.
Ryan:I will say out of all the brands so far that we've bought stuff from, as far as customer service goes, like I guess the initial like upfront theirs has not been top, because when I ordered just a sample discovery set like three fragrances it was like 30 bucks I didn't get like a typed up note. I literally got a huge handwritten note that had thought and like hey, we can help you with this ball of blood. It was very, very nice. I was like that's pretty good customer service. I don't know, I guess I don't have really anything too bad to say about them other than their prices a little much.
Myke:Well, what do you think about a brand that does that? That completely makes up the backstory. Do you care about that?
Ryan:Partially. Yeah, I guess I mean. But then again I am like I just want the fragrances to smell good. I don't care if they told me they wrote episodes for Barney, as long as the brand smells good for me. That's just kind of how I feel. I don't care.
Myke:Yeah. What about you, grant?
Fragdude85:Did you feel like a little disenfranchised with them after hearing they kind of yeah, kind of yeah, because I mean, I mean to me it's kind of like false advertising, because it's kind of that way. I mean, yeah, I like a Ventus and I do like you know, like Silver Mountain Water, but I'm not ever going to buy it in like sample form, but I'm not going to like justify, like paying their ridiculous prices.
Myke:Yeah, Never full retail. I would never buy a Creed bottle at full retail.
Ryan:Never, I wouldn't either. I guess that says enough about it too, yeah.
Fragdude85:The most expensive fragrance that I own. Right now is late and by Park from the Marlin. Okay, and I paid retail for it, gotcha.
Ryan:Oof that's such a good fragrance.
Myke:That is good. Yeah, oh man, there's discounters out there.
Fragdude85:You get it for like half that Well, I wanted to just make sure it was the real deal Gotcha yeah. If I'm spending that much money, you know, I want to be sure it's like the real thing, gotcha.
Myke:Yeah, that one's going to last you a minute too, because you really don't have to go crazy with that.
Ryan:No, that is such a good fragrance. It's one of my favorites that we've discovered through the podcast here.
Myke:I'm going to circle back around to Creed too, because I feel like that Aventus man. Everybody's been nipping at the heels of that thing without any sort of success. I mean Explorer, it's not bad, but it's not Aventus either. No, you know, there's Club.
Ryan:Day Nui man Intense or whatever. It's good, but it's not anywhere close to Aventus, at least us.
Myke:Yeah Right, there's just something about it that they hit a freaking home run with that bad boy and it's hard to top it and it is. I may sound like a poser here, but it is one of my favorite fragrances that I've ran into.
Ryan:It's surprisingly good Again me personally. I've shed on it for not lasting long at all, but he'll walk in and hell all day long. I'll be like man. It smells so damn good. What are you wearing all the time? So it lasts way longer than I thought, yeah.
Myke:And it's pricey juice, so I'm not going to ham on it, you know.
Ryan:In fact Will. Will's a family friend of ours. I was over there hanging out with another day and I gave him a couple of decants but he was telling me man, what's that one year got me to wear that day?
Fragdude85:I smell like a boss.
Ryan:I was like, oh, that's probably, it's a Crete Aventus. He goes yeah, crete Aventus. I was like, yeah, that one's a good one.
Myke:There's affordable ways to get it too. I get mine 30 mil at a time for Mark over at my fragrance samples. Yeah, got one right now.
Ryan:Yeah, tauk dresser Right in the shelf over there.
Myke:Little spritz on everyone. So far. You guys like a batch?
Fragdude85:people. No no, you care if it's like the old batch or the new batch or whatever I'm gonna we did an episode in that Dolce and Gabbana, the original one.
Ryan:Yeah, we had a gentleman send us in an og vintage. No, I'm gonna do it and to me it's like, as Jerry Jones would say, it's like circumcising a mosquito. I really can't tell that much of a difference.
Myke:I could on that, really, but. I mean, but I wore Dng poor home for a decade, yeah, as my main fragrance, and then smelling the vintage one yeah, there was definitely.
Myke:Swear to it, oh yeah yeah, but I bought a bottle. Well, I bought the intense so, which is like the EDP version of it. But I wouldn't go out and try to find and buy that vintage man. It's just it's too expensive and for me I already operate on like a scarcity mindset where if I see, you know, a dent in the bottom, like oh no, I'm running out. I couldn't live that way of chasing after the batches all the time.
Ryan:I think the best way to kind of like I guess to summarize it for us and like how we kind of look at things is you know, we, we understand like camera gear really well, and like looking at stuff. There's a thing in that industry it's called pixel peeping and it's like you take an image, they're both shot at whatever 1080p or 4k, right yeah, and they zoom in 200%, and then they're they're like oh see, this one runs a little bit more red and this in this imagery than this one.
Ryan:Yeah, but, when you're looking at it from far back, it's really not that much. There, both cameras do really well, they perform, they do what they're supposed to do and that's why I call it pixel people, because you're like, you're having to like really Go in there and really dig, your having to really look, yeah, and that's how I kind of feel about batch codes, man.
Myke:I feel the same way. I feel like between dupes or Clones and the original. Yeah, you don't have to zoom in too far.
Myke:Yeah see some of the differences. There's some out there that I I actually prefer the clone over the original, but to me it's like this. I'm gonna give you a little personal story. This is my Version of why if I can't wear it I'm not gonna buy it. If I'm afraid to wear it I won't buy it is because and you remember this car, ryan my dream car, growing up from a wee little lad, for the longest time was a 1965 Pontiac GTO, mm-hmm. I wanted one as long as I can remember vehicles. I thought that was the sexiest car. It was a good looking and so I saved up and I dreamed about it and at one point a 1965 black the the one I wanted went on sale on an auction Across the country and I spent the money to buy the body.
Myke:It was all rusted out because it was in the northeast. They salt the roads over time that wears out the bottom. So I paid for this body. I get it shipped, get it dropped off. I do some tinkering work on it. I turn it over to some guys who are really good at working on cars. They build it up and so I'm in this car about 40 grand, but it doesn't have AC. You know, it's hard to really drive around where we're at. It was low to the ground. We're in the country, yeah.
Myke:So I could only drive it every once in a while when the weather was perfect, when it was cold but it wasn't raining, you know, and I would only drive it to the gas station. But if I drove it to the gas station then it was like if I've filled up, people are always like wanting to talk to me for two hours about the car I. I got to a point where I couldn't drive the thing and I ended up selling it because I was like, yeah, I just see it sitting here in my garage. Yeah, I'm not driving it, I'm not enjoying it, it's just there. I've spent all this money on it and now I'm afraid to drive it and so I sold it. And that is such a big scale thing for me. But I've zoom out into fragrances. I will not buy a bottle of anything if I feel like I'm paying so much that I'm afraid to wear it. I want any fragrance up, I want to be able to wear all day long, and if I can't drive it, then I'm not gonna buy it.
Ryan:Yeah, I'm with you on that. And to back this story up from all the time that I've known him, and when he did have that car, he drove it one time around me and that was for.
Myke:A little video.
Ryan:Video we're wanting to do. That was it?
Myke:That's the only time we ever saw it running and that it popped to transmission leak and we ended up not even being able to use it for the video. I had to bring you back to the house and fix the hose, like okay, so Judge version no, so this was a 65. The judge was like the 68, 69s, that body style, this was like a One-off body, so they had a, they had a 64 and then the 65 was like a little bit boxier version. I mean, it's a super boxy body but it was like probably one of the boxiest versions of the GTO and I just love that boxed body. Look, it's got that big booty in the back, love that.
Myke:So yeah, I was obsessed with the car, but it was. It was a hassle, I couldn't really drive it and it was like a giant pile of money sitting in my garage. But before I thought, if I get this car, this car, and I'm gonna be existential here for a second, I thought leading up to getting this car I was like man, I will be happy if I get this dream car. Yeah, I've wanted this car forever. It's gonna say something to me. It's gonna say that I've been successful. It's gonna say that I've achieved this thing that I've wanted for so long. I put blood, sweat and tears into it. It's gonna show that I am a mechanic and I and I can make you proud, dad.
Ryan:You know all these things Was your secondary dream to be a mechanic when you go home?
Myke:No my mom and dad were both mechanics, by the way, they just loved cars more than me. But so I get this Vehicle and I thought, oh, this thing will make me happy. And then it sits in the garage and I never drive it and I'm like you know what it doesn't. So I am a little bit like I'm not gonna say Jaded, but I'm not chasing after some of these bottles to fulfill some sort of, like any false promise that they're giving. That is a good thing about the fragrance apprentices video that he made not too long ago. He was talking about like the false promise given by the fragrance industry in general and gonna get laid and all this stuff. Yeah, it does work really well for young guys.
Myke:You think so I think it does, because they haven't done that thing yet, they haven't chased after like me, for example that they haven't chased after that dream. And they attain the dream and then they realize If I'm not a happy person already, I won't be happy once I've got this glowing piece of object that I've been chasing for so long.
Ryan:I just don't right now, I just don't see it working for people. I think it's just, it's you the person, I just think it is, and then it's that thing that's part of you that somebody goes. Oh, I like him and he smells good.
Myke:Well, yeah, that's a hundred percent it. But it's like the guy who's naturally charismatic, who's great looking, you know. And then he's like, you know, every time I spray a fragrance on and I go out, for whatever reason, I'm, you know, getting lucky. And you're going. I don't even think you need the fragrance Great, but he's gonna tell everybody it's cuz I wear a savage.
Fragdude85:Yeah, it's gotta be the reason the second, like Tom Cruise, won't keep you fragrance and I keep you, told me.
Myke:Yeah, for sure 100%.
Ryan:I'm confident Tom Cruise could wear piss and still.
Myke:Well, it's like the people we say Brad Pitt like smells terrible really.
Ryan:Yeah, I've heard that about post Malone. It kind of makes sense. He's kind of rough-looking, you know, like you just get out of bed all time, probably hit like a bong rip or something.
Myke:But yeah, really, brad Piss was not.
Fragdude85:Look, I've never smelled the guy, I'm just saying One of my favorite episodes did you guys did was when you guys reviewed Zoologist T-Rex.
Myke:Oh, okay, yeah.
Ryan:I haven't smelled it yet but you got to like you're not the first person to bring that episode up, it is, let me just warn you, get you a sample of it and one tiny little spray is gonna do you good Look.
Ryan:Zoologist themselves sell like little D, little small D Can't just get that. And be careful, because I'm not kidding you. We did that episode and when we got done with it he was like his back was turned to me and he was like probably 10 feet away from me work on the computer and I was like just want to Smell it again. I took the cap off of it but I actually spilled it all over my hands. That shit is nuclear. I was like nauseous. It was so freaking intense.
Myke:Yeah, that's one. Look, there are fragrances out there that are a dime a dozen, but this is not one of those. This is one of the fragrances and I think they slowly make the rounds in the community, where people find ones. That's like, if you love experiencing fragrances, yeah, you've got to smell this one. You've got to smell T-Rex.
Ryan:We've said this before, but we go. We go to Dallas every once one. We go to this place called the scent room and there they have every bottle ever of everything and you can spray whatever you want, you can test where you want, except it's set T-Rex, yeah, rex, they have the atomizer pulled off of it. They won't let anybody spray it because it will fumigate the whole business.
Myke:I.
Ryan:Recommend it, though. I want you to try it, go out and try it, and I want you to reach back out to us and let us know yes, okay.
Myke:Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back in a moment with more frag dude 85, but first we need to get our sniffers on velvet.
Ryan:I'll let you do the honors there. Yes, and you're reading the.
Myke:Bible.
Ryan:From here, it looked like you did nothing but miss that card stock with every spray. Did you actually hit it? Yeah, okay, I still a little. Hmm, let me read this while you're smelling it Okay, or actually, god, let me actually smell that yeah, it smells like there's a kind of Turkish rose vibe going on.
Ryan:Hmm, man, that one from here smells pretty good up when I get up close to it. It's like it kind of like he gets muted for some reasons. One of those kind of fragrances man from afar, though when you just sprayed it, that smelled pretty catchy. Dude. Yeah, let's see what they say about velvet and their commodity. Bible pamphlet.
Myke:I'm kind of shocked. So far, velvet and book smell high-end, yeah, and Not so generic gold. On the other hand, it's kind of hard to really do something brand new with vanilla, but yeah.
Ryan:Well velvet, mike. Mysterious and elegant, this fragrance invokes the pure indulgence of a soft texture Meeting bare skin. It's woody ambrie blend features roasted almond, rose petals Okay. And black amber, oh, black amber.
Myke:The hell that sounds dark and warm like.
Ryan:Man, why can't some people just hire us to be there, like, what do you call a strategist or something, I don't know? Oh, strategist or something? We'd be like tearing everything apart. Oh, this one's called velvet, I don't know kind of smells, kind of.
Myke:Velvety. Yeah, the uneducated opinion, and full force today.
Ryan:Hey, but good calling the rose though I was kind of picking up a little rosy, he has not looked at this book. It seems so close to the skin, though, when I smell it on the car.
Myke:Well, you're probably looking for bold, then, as far as a scent space goes, right.
Ryan:Yeah, this is the expressive pack. Good God, wow, okay. So yeah, that's velvet. It doesn't smell bad. It's a great smell, yeah, but it's softened so quickly. Well, velvet is pretty soft, ryan. I guess that's a good point. I know it isn't soft though, mike. What's that? Our next segment?
Myke:Yeah, if you thought that handling six different commodity fragrances was a lot of fragrances to handle, wait till you get a hold of this next segment where we talk about how many fragrances is too many fragrances hit that fucking played button again, Todd.
Fragdude85:Do you just have like a number of like, because I get into discussions with people about how many fragrances is too many fragrances? Because, like I see people online like Jim Sands who has like a thousand bottles of Fragrances and right, and I'm like there's no way, your entire lifetime you think you're gonna go through every single bottle of it. So, like your kids, kids, kids, crank, no way that you can go through all of them.
Ryan:Yeah, for me. I think everybody's different. You said you had, I think you said, 50 bottles. Yeah, and this isn't even being ugly to you about that at all, but I think it's just it varies the person. For me, 50 would be crazy.
Myke:We actually have an episode going out next Monday we actually use 50 as a number where Ryan was like I could wear 50. I would struggle to figure out what I would choose to wear at 50. Not saying that 50 is a bad number, but I think it is an individual thing for sure. Sure, but I think there is also an inherent issue in collecting really anything. And here I go I'm gonna be super cerebral again about this. But you used to collect stamps Not that at all.
Myke:But there was a study that they did on income. Okay, I read this book and it's actually by a guy who does another podcast, but there's a book called happy, sexy millionaire and he talks about what makes people happy and like it's like it's a difficult Chase, but he talked about where they interviewed people from a hundred thousand dollars a year up to Deca millionaires and people who made hundreds of million dollars a year. Okay, so they, they interview all these people and each person gives nearly the exact same answer. It doesn't matter how much money they made that year. They said if I could make two to three times the amount of money that I make I, then I would be happy with my income. And so the person who made a hundred thousand dollars a year said if I could make two or three hundred thousand dollars a year, I'd be happy. Then the person who made two or three hundred thousand dollars a year said, if I could make six or nine that $100,000 up to a million, the guy said, if I could make two or three million, the guy who made three million, if I could make nine million.
Myke:So it was always this thing of where we thought more, more is enough, yeah, but the problem is more is never enough, yeah. So it's really. I admire people who are able to have Smaller collections because to me, in fragrance, it's more about finding the fragrances that really speak to who you are. That's why we love sampling and we love my fragrance samples. Calm, be sure to go get you a Good, a decant and you get a free sample with every order. That's why we love sampling.
Myke:I swear to God there's no cha-ching sound effects going on over here but for real, because Give five mil and figure out what fragrance works with you that really works with you. Wear it a couple of times. How do the people around you respond to the fragrances it feel like you and then get you and I don't care if they're $3,000 a bottle, but if you find five or six really good fragrances and not to, this episode will have gone out by the time Our interview with you goes out. But you'll hear in that episode we talk about Signature, sense, and it's like sometimes Finding fragrances that work with you and really expand on who your personality is, I feel like, is the win. That should be the chase of going.
Myke:There are Millions of fragrances out there and instead of having a bottle of each one, having a bottle of the five, the ten, the twenty, the fifty who cares? Whatever works for you that really speak to who you are and let others know that when you walk in the room, this is letting them know more about you by the aura you put out. Scent wise, that's my thing. So I'm like I'm actually fighting harder to Shrink my collection and you can ask I've given for this a box of bottles, nice bottles. I gave him the parfum version of Blu-de-channel that azerza?
Ryan:Yeah, John verbato's double X.
Myke:Yeah, so it's like I've given away tons of bottles that are really great fragrances. But I'm really searching for, you know, like these guys that do up videos for a tin for life. That's what I'm really looking for, and then, once I find those, I'm happy with sampling till I find the one that's like I've got to have a bottle of this.
Ryan:Yeah, I have three or four, actually, minus one because I gave will Lunarosa carbon yesterday, right, I only have like literally probably three or four right now and that's it. And I still have an issue.
Myke:I tried to buy that bottle off of him, so I think that speaks a little bit to how close you're getting a will these days.
Ryan:Maybe you're irreplaceable. Just say no, thanks.
Myke:What about you Grant? What Andy is what is the number for you?
Fragdude85:I don't know. I guess it's not really a specific number, but it's mainly it's a quest to kind of find the right one. You know right now the one to rule them all. Yeah, I kind of sort of yeah yeah.
Ryan:Riveting stuff.
Myke:Yeah, you know how we do it, ryan always All right. Next in line is moss, and Cynthia actually had good things to say about moss. Really, what you say, I don't remember. I remember that. Here we go.
Ryan:I'm we inspecting earthy.
Myke:Yeah is.
Ryan:You say moss is kind of sweet smell. Do you like pick some moss off a tree for when you're like don't smell but touch things or whatever? Oh, no, but we did. What was that? Oh, that's what you posted a picture of moss, oh, come on, yeah, yeah, we got it out there.
Myke:Then I like rubbed it around in my hands like this and what it smell like dirt. With that.
Ryan:And interesting. Not what I thought it was gonna smell like at all. Yeah, I don't feel earthy.
Myke:It's just kind of like a green, citrusy type masculine fragrance.
Ryan:Almost surprisingly enough, that's probably my favorite one so far. Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't loud like the velvet one was off the top. It's kind of you know expressive express.
Myke:That wasn't a bold enough sense space.
Ryan:It smells great, though, to me hmm, that does smell really good.
Ryan:I'm not gonna lie. All right back to commodities. Fragrance guide to the universe here. This is Moss. This fragrance is crisp, aroma, is one that nature would be proud of fresh, green and earthy. Okay, it's blend of oat moss, cedar wood and pettigrain, but sure, but deep green, but ticker, I don't know, guys, I'm, I'm just uneducated is reminiscent of a walk in the woods at dawn wet, cool, clean and Reviving. What kind of notes we got in here? You got grapefruit, bergamot. You got put Pettigrain or pettigrain, whatever that fucking word is. Yeah, we got a P E T I T G R A I M I'm not a goddamn scholar Okay, commodity, yeah, so I put some hard-ass words in here just because you want to be bougie orange blossom, cedar wood and oat moss. It's kind of funny. We were thinking earthy. I mean the description obviously kind of, especially with the wet, cool, cleaning or reviving, it does make you think clean shower, kind of a freshy actually. Yeah, it smells good though. I like it, I do, I like it's real Zesty.
Myke:It kind of reminds me of like a niche on a fragrance.
Ryan:Yeah, I get down with that. Let me smell it again. I smell this bad boy. Yeah, yeah, hey.
Myke:Hey, okay, as we sniff a little bit more of this moss, we're gonna take you in the next segment of our interview with frag dude 85. And Grant wants to know how we feel about the world of Zaharoff. Is he trying to catch us in something? Is it a gotcha moment? You better stick around and find out hit that Stupid-ass play button, Todd.
Fragdude85:I'm listening. So where are you guys trying to find out about Zaharoff's fragrances? Because I'm in three right now. I have citrine, I have a smell that one. Todd back and I have evening mystique, Okay we both have a bottle of evening mystique.
Ryan:We had a decant of it sent to us or an at-tribal item. I was sent to us, yeah, from Zaharoff, that's right, we smelled it, did episode on it. We liked it so much we went ahead and bought a bottle on it.
Myke:So we bought a bottle then we did the interview with. We didn't tell him that we were buying a bottle. Yeah, we just went in and bought one. Yeah really good fragrance because we loved it did the episode with Ross. He ended up sending another one out for us the tobacco. Do you have the signature tobacco?
Ryan:Yes, I love that one so good and it's. I don't know why there's so much drama in fucking fragrances. Yeah, but it's like to me I don't care if it's authentic or not. I'm not taking up for Zaharoff run or fucking payroll here but it's like does it smell good?
Fragdude85:It smells good, that's all I need to know, and but yeah, I don't know why George did so much shit I mean honestly like to me like he is more shit than like Anybody else and I don't know why. I mean I'll tell you why I think it is okay, go ahead.
Myke:I think it's because he's accessible. Yes, because he's accessible. For sure people are gonna take swings. You know, nobody's taking shots at Mr Tom Ford or, you know, fill in the blank Francis Kershawn or whatever, because they're not talking to plebians, they're not out here. Yeah, and I know that this was a fragrance event, but whenever I went to Assance, I saw George at everything that I went to. Every time I was walking in, he was walking out. He had already been there before me, interacted with everybody and gone. The guy is just out there, yeah, and he's accessible. And so people are gonna take shots. Man, I'm not gonna be rude. Well, I'm gonna be rude. Man, fuck you guys who are taking shots at a guy just because he has a little brand. He's passionate about something.
Myke:Yeah, what? What's the big deal? Like, that's the guy who still cares, I just don't get it, man, again, I don't know.
Ryan:Look, there's no real leather and you know ombre leather. I love that. It smells like the way it does. I don't know, it's just weird. Yeah, drama, just smell shit and enjoy it or don't enjoy it right.
Fragdude85:Oh, this doesn't shit on on Ross, leave the guy alone. Okay, so you don't like him. Okay, so what like? Why do you have to like go in his comment section or on that stupid reddit page, you know?
Myke:if I was? If I was Ross or let's just pretend we're nowhere near as big as Ross but if I was Ross and somebody with the ski mask comes out of the dark and hits me in the back of the head, I don't care if it hurts or not, I'm gonna hate that guy. Yeah, and that's exactly what these guys are doing. If you pull the mask off and you sit down with them and you're a real person to them instead of you know some anonymous internet troll, if you're a real dude, you're gonna like Ross man. Anytime We've interacted with him, he's been a legit dude. But if you're going to frame it up where you're anonymous and you're not a person, don't expect to be treated like one.
Ryan:I just think some people God, you had to ask this question, you're gonna get this thing, make this a two-hour Special over here but I think just some people, they just feel I'm not trying to be ugly, but I think some people just feel like this can't be a job or they shouldn't make money at it. But it's like we've said it this a minute, we've said this many times we understand the work Just to hit record, because this is our, our daily job, not this our outside of this. Our real job has been doing content creation. Content creation, commercial work, whatever it may be, but we understand what it takes to record something, edit that down, put audio to it, everything else, like make a story out of it. It's a lot of work.
Myke:Let let me tell you how hard it is. People would rather pay people like me and Ryan here to go make the content for them yeah, so that they can post it and claim it for their brand. Then for them to actually do it themselves. That's how hard it is, that people would rather take money and give it away to get content rather than actually create it. So the hard work that goes into making the content not a lot of people sign up for that. They don't want to. It's a lot of hard work and God forbid a guy have a bad day, yeah, and do a video that is lackluster or something like that, and people come out of the woodwork to do cheap shots.
Myke:I'm not gonna ever side with anybody. That is gonna come to Anything with a bunch of negativity because you don't know the guy. For example, chris from Fragmental yeah, I mean, that guy's so lovable it's hard not to like him, but as he grows in popularity, it would be easy to put a target on his back. If you ever meet that guy, he is the most solid, the nicest person you will literally ever meet. Yeah, he is one of the most awesome dudes out there. And that guy still gets hate too. I'm like who could hate that guy? I?
Ryan:Guess a lot of people can hate anybody. It just yeah, it just. It's just immaturity and just people think they're owed something or they think that others shouldn't be owed Something. But then the day man just Ross in general I'm just putting using, since you asked about him, or whatever, but it's just like the guy has put up over 2,000 videos. These are all like usually over five or so eight minutes. That is a lot of time invested and yeah, guess what, at some point it may not pop off in a year, it may not pop off in two years. Hell it may be. I think he may be in your five. Maybe it's year five that it popped off and it's actually he's getting a return on his investment buyer and putting all that free time in For a few years. Part of that how you gonna hate on that.
Myke:Get a little passionate, partly because we kind of know these guys now or we've got to be around them.
Ryan:Hey, these guys on YouTube. They're doing more work than me and Mike. Yeah, as far as that, that side of it goes right. That's why we chose podcasts and cuz.
Fragdude85:We're like I see video that Ross like over, like last year, and we talked occasionally on Instagram. I was on some of his live streams, yeah, and I said yeah, he's a good dude man, he's a nice guy.
Myke:He, he genuinely is like a helpful dude, he cares, yeah, and I think George is the same way talking about Zaharoff. No, that guy will take the time to really figure out what type of person you are and Invest in you if you ever get around him. He's just been that way. I I was fortunate enough to be around him a little bit over there and I was treated as an equal and I'm a nobody. You know, it was just nice to see the.
Myke:The problem is with this community Is that the humanity is missing. Because there aren't a lot of physical meetups. It's hard to interact with these people, but getting to be around them the the thing that we struggled the most was the with the community at times, and actually getting out and getting into the community Made me love it even more. It's my favorite part about this now are the people, and I've become very close, just chatting with some of these guys on a daily basis, because you start to see them as real people. It's kind of like it's gonna be harder to keep their the circle around of somebody like Kim Kardashian or whatever, but the bigger you get, the more popular you get. You're gonna have people just straight up hate you because they're jealous that you have seemingly a more successful or easier or more financially lucrative life than you know, than they have, and so they're gonna be upset about that. And it's a grind to get there.
Myke:Like somebody like George he is, yeah, had to struggle through multiple failed Attempts in fashion and in branding and business to land on something that he loves, he's passionate about, he can put his heart into and actually make a product that people love. So you can be a Snob or a snooty person and say that, oh, zahara, fragrances or trash, but I've smelled quite a few that I absolutely love and I could never hate the brand for whatever reason. I don't care. Blame it on bad PR, but at least the guy's out there, you know putting himself out there and trying to be a part of the community. Just let that die and focus on metrics of good, bringing positivity, encouragement, stuff like that.
Myke:Dude, why do you want to live your life pissed off? I'm trying to have a good day every day, right, I'm just going to check my blood pressure really quick. I think that's hard. I mean, we have very few haters, but that's just because we have a smaller, closer knit audience. I think if we had a way larger audience, like some of these guys you know nearly 100,000 viewers then we would probably equally have that. Just because it's written in the cards for us, you know that there is a certain percentage of people that are going to be rude to you, no matter what. Just because you exist and you're out there and they have a bad day makes them feel good to punch in some symbols on a keyboard and click in, or you know.
Ryan:And we're back, and to finish this out before the last question in this interview, we're going to smell two more, and they couldn't be more polarizing Paper and milk.
Myke:That's right. You don't want to mix those two. You'll get paper mache. All right, let's start with milk. Here's what we're I mean.
Ryan:Put your foot in your prewritten jokes away. Okay, Mike.
Myke:I didn't. I'm just naturally born with these dad jokes.
Ryan:I was probably testing this shit with four of us or some shit.
Myke:Not at all. So here's what we're going to do we're going to smell these two, we're going to ruminate on all these fragrances and then, after our last segment, we'll come back. We'll give you our favorite of the bunch. Oh man, that sounds great Starting with paper.
Ryan:I'm going to take milk, mike, oh, okay.
Myke:Is that 30?
Ryan:It was something who I know. I have a feeling you're going to love milk, yeah, yeah. Well, as much as I know you love it in real life with cookies and everything else. Then this man, you know there used to be a trend called I think it used to be a website or something was like 70s big, like guys would get like bulked up. Oh yeah.
Ryan:Always drinking milk and shit. I'm shocked You're not like that With 70s big, I think you're going to like it. Did you like this one Paper? Tell me what you think. Paper smells like man, this shit. It smells like model glue. Yeah, what the hell? Maybe we're just smelling a bunch of weird stuff at once you know what Milk does smell.
Myke:good Milk smells like a better version of gold.
Ryan:Hmm, I was going to say it kind of reminds me of something, mason Francis Kurchin, for some reason. Hmm, I do not like paper, no, yeah.
Myke:Paper. That's a tough one. How could you go from book, which is basically a bunch of papers bound, put with a cover? Yeah To the single papers.
Ryan:One thing I can say is there is a town about an hour and a half from us that has a paper mill. Oh boy, that town smells terrible. Why does? In every town in the USA has a paper mill smells fucking terrible Always.
Myke:It looks pretty good. What do we got for notes there? You don't have to read the scriptures about them, just hit them with the notes.
Ryan:Oh God, I got it. Trust me, I got to read the scripture on this paper. Okay, go for it. Sorry, I got to read this pamphlet Paper, a cult classic brought back from the archives. Paper celebrates sandalwood as a skin scent thanks to the ISOE Super. The ISOE Super plays off the natural scent of one's skin for a soft sandalwood trail. That is truly unique. Is that it's unique? Nobody's copying that one. Three notes on that one ISOE Super, sandalwood and cedarwood. Hmm, we got actual cedarwood like oil here. That's right, yeah, and it does not smell like that. Smells way better than that.
Myke:What do?
Ryan:we got for milk. Just keep in mind that was the cult classic, we'll say now, milk seeking comfort and the familiar. This creamy and calming scent offers the perfect start to the day. Cold milk adds a cooling element to an otherwise rich and warm fragrance of marshmallow, mahogany and tonka bean. Hey, yeah, the notes on this. Literally cold milk accord. That's kind of cool. Hmm, warm marshmallow, mahogany, wood, some other stuff.
Myke:I kind of get that marshmallow vibe. It smells great. That's probably why you think Francis Kirkjohn, because some people say that like cotton candy to the BR540. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, it's got that convection or type. Okay, well, we're going to really try to process what our favorite one of these is when we come back, ryan, you've got to give. You want to do just first place, or do we? Do we give a first, second, third? What are we going to do?
Ryan:I say we both say which one we liked the most and which one we hated the most.
Myke:Okay, we're going to do that, but before we do we'll get into our last segment with Grant on the fragrance community as a whole, the pros and cons of it, and friendships.
Ryan:Yeah, Todd, you know the drill by now. You idiot. Hit the play button.
Fragdude85:The one reason I liked this community the most is because it's one of the only spaces left that hasn't been infected with politics and other things that are dignified people. We all have this common thing that we share yeah, and it's all we talk about. It's pregnancy. We don't focus on the other stuff that divides us. You know it's more people would just focus on things that bring people together as opposed to dividing everybody. That's why I always find people in the community so, so nice and helpful, because you know, we're all focused on that, on that one thing, and if pregnancy is, you know, yeah, get.
Myke:This is a thing I would tell people. Get real friends, get real friends, okay, because if you have a problem with somebody not liking what you like me and Ryan in the car yesterday I go, man, I love the blue on this new house they're building and he goes I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It's like that's like some kid color. I don't see any adult out here liking that color and I'm like, I'm an adult, I like that color and we have interactions like that every single day and you get immune to people having differing opinions and we don't have to do this all the time. We may agree and we're going to argue just to argue. We've literally.
Ryan:we have literally done that work. We agree on something, but somehow it's still an argument what the fuck?
Myke:is that, and it's like if you have real friends real, I mean honest, deep relationships with people it's not going to offend you when you say I love something oh my God, I love this so much and they go. You're an idiot. That's terrible, you know. I like it. I mean, get used to that stuff, people Come on.
Ryan:You can totally tell that Mike's traumatized by how negative I am towards him all the time, not at all.
Myke:I think it's been good for me to like. You know, a lot of people can only surround themselves by people who 100% agree with them, and those people always end up being stunted in one way or another because they get too many yeses. They don't get anybody that checks them, they never have to question, they're off here, out nowhere, because they kept chasing a direction that probably wasn't healthy for them. It's great that I have you and you're always a pessimist and you're willing to check every good idea I have. And it's like I tell you sometimes. Sometimes I question you just to check your level of conviction. Yeah, you know, I'm always like look, if you can sell it to me, then you can sell it to anybody else. We do this all the time too.
Ryan:I think I've only sold you on like one thing this entire time. We've known each other. That was the other day, you know, with that one thing yeah maybe so, but yeah, that one thing.
Myke:It's crucial. A lot of people again, they are not living in reality and so it's easy to throw hatred or negativity, but if they were sitting in a room with these people, they would never be like that and it's like, hey, you got to remind yourself you're interacting with real human beings. This is not some you know, false digital simulation. This is, in a way, the internet has. You know. Be grateful that you can even interact with somebody like Ross, that he's available through whatever digital platform that he's made himself available, or George, the same way he's chosen to make himself available. Try to message Bill Gates. Never get to that guy. You know the fact that you have accessibility. Don't waste that. Use that as an opportunity to encourage one another.
Ryan:Yeah, for sure man again, grant, thank you for coming on the show man. And thank you for actually starting this conversation to come on here.
Myke:Everybody listening. Go check out Grant's Instagram fragdude85. We were before you got on. We were looking at some of the little memes you were making and stuff we were cracking up. Dude, some of the little selfies you post with the filters are hilarious.
Ryan:Some of the reface stuff. You did one with Chris from Fragmental.
Myke:Oh yeah, on Daniel Craig Perfect dude, it was incredible.
Ryan:He actually commented on it.
Fragdude85:You see that.
Myke:Yeah, yeah, he's like I'm going to be that dude tonight. Yeah, chris is great. That was such a great lineup. I was like man, there couldn't have been a more perfect reface. That was hilarious. So go check out Grant's Instagram At least is there anywhere else you want people to check you out? You got YouTube stuff like that. I'm not really on.
Fragdude85:YouTube, but Instagram is the main one, Okay great.
Ryan:Well, man, thanks for coming on the show man, we really appreciate it. We appreciate your time and, honestly, picking our brains and some stuff. That was a fun little switcheroo, yeah, it kind of got to be interviewed a little bit ourselves, which is nice.
Myke:Okay, All right, man. Well, we appreciate you, and until next time spray it up y'all.
Ryan:Well, Mike, great interview all around from Mr Fragdude85. Grant. Thank you so much. We're sorry it took so long to get this out. We've been backed up. We're now cleansed.
Myke:The pipes are clean.
Ryan:After smelling these, I'm going to kind of go through these one more time. Yeah, book, meh, gold, velvet, moss, pretty good Paper. What the fuck were they thinking with paper, not saying that's my hated one yet, though, guys, yeah, okay, what's your favorite one, moss? Wow, that's exactly what I was going to say. That's serious, yeah.
Myke:Moss is great. Runner-up would be book, but it's basically just a dupe of Santel 33. My runner-up would actually be milk.
Ryan:Really I don't ever see you wearing that. I would not wear it, but I feel like it's more pleasing to me to smell than book. Book just starts smelling like you know what we smell. I don't think you smelled it, but I had smelled the dupe or whatever from dossier of Santel 33. It's tragic, oh God. It smells like fucking pickles.
Myke:It was terrible. Yeah, this would be a nice alternative if the price is right. I need to go back and look at them again. Also, if you're a lady and you like the fragrance instant crush then milk to me smells a little bit better quality than that. Could be something to look into Again, depending on the price.
Ryan:That's a solid comparison. I like that. But yeah, I would definitely say Moss, number one runner-up milk. Okay, which is our most hated one? For me, it's probably paper.
Myke:It's easily paper. There is something to it that could be pleasing, but it's buried underneath a bunch of like model airplane glue.
Ryan:It is weird. I'm not a fan of it.
Myke:I mean, don't get me wrong Paper in life be making some model cars May accidentally smell a little bit of that glue, you know, just for funsies.
Ryan:Oh Lord, Just see you like putting together a freaking vintage Volkswagen Beetle.
Myke:Nope, it was a Chevy Chevelle Super spark Paper. They should have renamed like Sharpie marker or something.
Ryan:It smells so vastly different than book, to which is I mean, I guess it has to be different, but I feel like neither one of those really represent what it should be smelling. I'm going on the skin with Moss.
Myke:Really, why not? Okay, let's just get freaky man. Let's get freaky with it, we're freaky.
Ryan:Here we go. Hmm, yeah, it smells fresh, clean, citrusy a little bit.
Myke:Yeah, it's almost got like that wulong cha vibe yeah, I can kind of get down.
Ryan:I can get down with that. Yeah, I could probably do some with it. Man, this isn't on the house episode. Ok, yeah, after smelling these, though, so far, and with the even though we didn't smell it today, we smelled it in the past wool, yeah, what do you think of the brand so far overall, and be honest, are they using industry jargon?
Myke:They're definitely not doing that. You know what I like it. I like the brand, I like what they're trying. Ok, they're strong with their naming conventions. Did they miss a couple of marks? Yeah, they probably did, but if I was behind the steering wheel doing this, I probably would have missed more than they did.
Myke:I think they did a good job. I would just have to see where the price tag is. I can't remember what I spent on Moss too much, I believe, but Moss or, I'm sorry, wool Wool. I wish I'd bought Moss. Let's see what their prices are. I can almost guarantee you that I used like a first time purchase coupon to get a certain amount off.
Ryan:Let's see here. So it looks like it's a hundred and forty five buckaroos. Ok, for how much? It's not telling me. So far it's probably a hundred mil, I don't know.
Myke:Hold on, moss is smelling pretty damn good on the skin, is it really? We'll give you a skip at Sam. Play by it here in a sec.
Ryan:Oh yeah, hundred and mil. One hundred and forty five dollars. If you want a ten mil travel out of miles for any of these are all eighty bucks.
Myke:Eighty bucks yeah, that's bullshit. One hundred and forty for the.
Ryan:Hey, what happened to Mr? Hey, they got their stuff together. That is insane. Eighty bucks, you think, is too much for a ten mil yeah, that is pretty wild, isn't it? I'm so used to hearing Roger Dove's ship being seventy five dollars for something.
Myke:Yeah, but that's Roger. This is fucking moss.
Ryan:OK, hey, yeah, let's, let's break this down real quick.
Myke:Hundred and forty for a hundred mil. I could almost understand. I guarantee you could find some sort of discount code. Eighty bucks for a ten mil is robbery.
Ryan:Yeah. So basically, ten mil from the hundred and mil is fourteen bucks fourteen fifty, yeah, Damn. Then I like oh, you want to test this bad boy out? Yeah, that's like. Here's this complimentary bottle of lube before.
Myke:Yeah, no joke. Yeah, ok, well, let's give them a skip, a sample and buy it for Moss, and then let's get the hell out of here. It's been a long ass episode. Well, mike, you're going to skip it, sample it or buy it. What are you going to do, ryan?
Ryan:Let me lean into the mic so you can understand this. Ok, skip.
Myke:I'm going to do the same thing.
Ryan:Skip.
Myke:It's all right. It's good, but it's not great. It's not buy worthy. The discovery set was actually kind of fun. Yeah, if you're interested, go to discovery set. Probably go bold if I had to guess. Yeah, but it was fun to smell all of these.
Ryan:God, I have a question, but it's so in depth. I feel like it should just be a fragrance philosophy that we just tease, say it and then we'll decide. This is kind of a question for us, for the community and for these fragrance houses. Ok, if you were starting a brand, what would be the do's and don'ts to start in it and getting your name out there for the community to trust your brand? Because sometimes I see this now again. I don't know how commodity started, but just looking at their website, they got specialized videos and this whole thing. For me, from a person that we both have worked in kind of content creating and marketing branding, it's like I see more of that and it feels gimmicky, so it's like I don't have trust in it.
Myke:Here's why it feels gimmicky. So this be a fragrance philosophy episode? No, we'll leave this here, but I think that would be a great interview to get with some brands and ask them ones that have done it well. Here's why this feels gimmicky, because they're saying we're getting rid of this jargon, but then they have to educate you on how to interpret their new system. And even though it's like, yeah, an EDP, edt, whatever, that is industry jargon, but it's been around forever Miles, we'll just go with that. Yeah. So if you're going to get rid of it, you should boil it down, not create something new that you then have to educate everyone on on how to use the thing. This is simpler. Look, we've made you a pamphlet. We promise you this is easier. Just read our pamphlet. Fucking, no, who's going to read a pamphlet? I get, I mean, I get what they're doing.
Ryan:It's fun, but it's, we should have made this a first loss and maybe we can spend on it or something. But I, for me, it's like I want a brand. I don't give a fuck about a brand coming out. Here's a great example. Ok, and it's not to throw shade, but it is fresh on my mind still two years later. But like Galleria Parfums, ok, here we go. It comes out of left field. Yes, they, they don't exist one day, like Earth. And then one day magic happens and they're alive. They're here, and not only that, but they're here with seven fucking fragrances. For me, that's kind of overwhelming. I wouldn't. For me, I want a brand. If they come out, they just got one thing and they've tried to perfect that one thing to show you that they got something. When it's like a whole booklet of shit, it's like man, I feel like they had to be pulled every different which way just to get that done.
Myke:I agree with you, but I'm going to play devil's advocate. Ok, you always do my. A restaurant opens up, ryan.
Ryan:This is definitely apples to apples Go ahead.
Myke:And they've got one thing on the menu, how many people would show up to that restaurant? Lots Less people would, then, if they had five things on the menu.
Ryan:This could not be. And there's going to be a dump truck out here making a lot of noises. I don't care. Yeah, oh, did you put the trash out? By the way? I did not.
Myke:Fuck you, ryan, it already drove up.
Ryan:I know, I just Just went in and left.
Myke:Oh God, not again. That's another week in a row. We missed the trash here at the studio. I'm going to disagree with you, because give me an example of a restaurant that only has one thing. Oh, here we go, he's going to one thing.
Ryan:OK, I don't want to hear it's got a couple of things, here we go. We do know. We've always said when a restaurant does simplify what they're making making a thousand different things it does make it to where they can focus on a better product. Canes is a great example. Chick-fil-a is a great example, yeah. But, even Trillburgers is an amazing example.
Myke:Yes, trillburgers is probably the closest, but still they have four entrees, plus sides, plus proprietary sodas, so I mean you can't, then that's Trillburgers.
Ryan:Guys, I'm telling you, this is the gospel If you come to Texas, you go, you take your ass down to Houston and you go down. What's what dumb ass street was it called Like Sisenhower or something?
Myke:I don't know it's something I don't know.
Ryan:Look you can Google it, you'll find it. Don't go to the one at. We're just talking about the location, the first main location. Go there. Trillburgers is fucking nuts. Yeah, best goddamn burger I've ever had in my life. Yeah, because they only had a burger and they had a vegan burger. That was really it in fries.
Myke:Well, yeah, but then there's different. Like they have the whatever the OG, then they have like the triple OG Still just meat and cheese. You want extra meat and extra cheese. So then let's just break this down and then we need to get out of here. But you've got a vegan burger. Let's just pretend, like the changing the extra meat patty. Yeah, pretending that doesn't matter, you've got that, the vegan burger. You've got the regular burger. Yeah, you've got French fries and you have specialty colas. Yeah, four things, that's still four things. But it's like, even then they've said and then we'll change it up and we'll give you a different variation of the same thing.
Ryan:It's still so simplified. But all to say, not to disagree or agree with you.
Myke:Definitely not agree with you, but yeah, but just imagine they opened up and they go we've got moss, so we've got all these things. We started a brand. What's your brand going to be like?
Ryan:Oh, we're going to do all these other things, but so far we've got moss. God, there's one thing I know about you, mike If a restaurant opened up and all they sold was, no chicken. If all they sold was chicken, I'd be there. It was fucking great.
Myke:You would be homey on it. They don't have to serve drinks or sides Just chicken, just chicken. They could only serve chicken thighs. It's like where were you going, that place that only does chicken thighs and they only cook it one way? Yeah, I would show up, but most people wouldn't.
Ryan:I think we all come to realize we're just tired of. Hey, the McRib is back.
Myke:Yeah, I think the thing is people want three options. Just give them three. Threes, the magic number, it's the holy trinity of food fragrance, you name it Faith friends, yeah, three, and with that spray it up Three words for you.
Ryan:All right, guys, we love you guys. Spray them y'all.