"The only thing they care about is burning the heather to drive the numbers of grouse up - they don't care about wildfires at all, let's be realistic."
In the following interview you'll hear Charlie Moores talking with Luke Steele, executive director of Wild Moors. We're discussing grouse moors and grouse moor fires, rewetting our peatlands, support from the government and MPs for moving from a partial ban on burning to a full ban, COP 26, NGOs working together, and a new reporting scheme whereby we can all contribute data that will prove just how many fires the shooting industry are setting on the UK's largest carbon stores.
Charlie begins though by asking Luke with a new so-called 'burning season' just underway whether grouse estates were taking any notice at all of climate change concerns or the partial ban on heather burning that came into force on the 12th of June...
Wild Moors works with communities, governments and companies to unlock moorland from grouse shooting for the conservation of wildlife and habitats.