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Dr. Bondar."},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar","startTime":106.46,"endTime":109.19,"body":"May I call you Roberta?"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":109.82,"endTime":112.31,"body":"Yes, you can"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":109.82,"endTime":112.31,"body":"call me Roberta 1000s of kids"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":112.31,"endTime":112.7,"body":"do."},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar","startTime":114.08,"endTime":116.57,"body":"It's hard to"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar","startTime":114.08,"endTime":116.57,"body":"believe that it has been 30"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar","startTime":116.6,"endTime":120.23,"body":"years since you flew in space."},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar","startTime":116.6,"endTime":120.23,"body":"How does that make you feel?"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":121.43,"endTime":123.95,"body":"Well,"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":121.43,"endTime":123.95,"body":"besides old you mean? 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But I"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":962.81,"endTime":967.34,"body":"did do in my final year, some"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":967.34,"endTime":970.94,"body":"veterinary courses, because as"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":967.34,"endTime":970.94,"body":"though I wanted to be a medical"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":970.94,"endTime":973.88,"body":"doctor, there were no medical"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":970.94,"endTime":973.88,"body":"courses there, the veterinary"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":973.88,"endTime":976.79,"body":"courses were the closest thing I"},{"speaker":"Roberta Bondar Too","startTime":973.88,"endTime":976.79,"body":"could come to. 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