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So"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23150.4,"endTime":23153.16,"body":"of course, you know, our"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23153.16,"endTime":23154.54,"body":"information is limited."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23154.66,"endTime":23156.61,"body":"I think there's a"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23154.66,"endTime":23156.61,"body":"lot of plausible deniability"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23156.61,"endTime":23159.97,"body":"when it comes to computer usage."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23156.61,"endTime":23159.97,"body":"Like I could say, Hey, Jason, I"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23159.97,"endTime":23162.43,"body":"noticed that on your computer"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23159.97,"endTime":23162.43,"body":"that your email was open, you"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23162.43,"endTime":23166.21,"body":"could say, I didn't open it."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23162.43,"endTime":23166.21,"body":"Yeah, exactly. You can't prove"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23166.48,"endTime":23169.48,"body":"that whoever owns that email,"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23166.48,"endTime":23169.48,"body":"you can't prove that they opened"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23169.48,"endTime":23171.19,"body":"it. Just somebody opened it."},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23171.4,"endTime":23174.28,"body":"My computer was"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23171.4,"endTime":23174.28,"body":"stolen and then some miners got"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23174.28,"endTime":23178.84,"body":"it and there's probably a lot of"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23174.28,"endTime":23178.84,"body":"that for sure. For sure. So I"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23178.84,"endTime":23182.74,"body":"really enjoyed the deep dive"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23178.84,"endTime":23182.74,"body":"into the illegal Bitcoin mine"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23182.74,"endTime":23183.34,"body":"rated."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23183.49,"endTime":23184.96,"body":"Yeah. And you"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23183.49,"endTime":23184.96,"body":"know what, Jason, I have a"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23184.96,"endTime":23187.93,"body":"feeling I have a very strong"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23184.96,"endTime":23187.93,"body":"feeling is that as that's a"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23187.93,"endTime":23190.87,"body":"crime continues. I think we're"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23187.93,"endTime":23190.87,"body":"going to be visiting"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23190.87,"endTime":23195.1,"body":"cryptocurrency and possibly"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23190.87,"endTime":23195.1,"body":"Bitcoin crimes in the future."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23195.1,"endTime":23195.85,"body":"Absolutely."},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23195.97,"endTime":23198.07,"body":"Yeah. This could"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":23195.97,"endTime":23198.07,"body":"be a spin off show."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23198.52,"endTime":23200.98,"body":"Yeah, exactly."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23198.52,"endTime":23200.98,"body":"Yeah, crypto crime crypto go"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":23200.98,"endTime":23201.79,"body":"home. 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