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I'm Jason Connell."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21195.013,"endTime":21196.183,"body":"And I'm Sal"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21195.013,"endTime":21196.183,"body":"Rodriguez."},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":21196.783,"endTime":21201.553,"body":"All right, so we"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":21196.783,"endTime":21201.553,"body":"are back for our ninth episode"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":21201.853,"endTime":21202.723,"body":"of that's a crime."},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21202.903,"endTime":21204.403,"body":"I feel like we"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21202.903,"endTime":21204.403,"body":"should make a speech or"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21204.403,"endTime":21204.643,"body":"something."},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":21205.273,"endTime":21206.083,"body":"Let's wait till"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":21205.273,"endTime":21206.083,"body":"10"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21206.293,"endTime":21209.413,"body":"Okay, I'm gonna"},{"speaker":"Sal Rodriguez","startTime":21206.293,"endTime":21209.413,"body":"have something ready. 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