Episode #54

On this Episode of The MJ38 Show (Podcast):

Matthew and Justin talk about Unpopular Opinions, The Year 0, and Dinosaurs 

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Yeah. Which actually we're going on to. We'll be okay. Yeah. No rush, no worries. Never a bad day. I don't want to, I don't want to have to. Worry, Bob. Just hit it on the fucking nose. It's going to be all right. It's going to be all right. We'll make it through. When we start a podcast. My brain just has all these things populating that we could talk about. I'll just be letting some of those fish go. But one thing about that song, okay, it's that song kind of is anxiety inducing when I listen to it. Oh, no. Yeah. Where's that coming from? Well, one, I don't really like this song. Okay, no offense to Bob Marley. I understand he's a legend. I understand I don't know enough about him to say any negative things about his music or discography, because he's such a legend to some people in the community and stuff like that. With that being said. Just say yes. Go on. Sonically for me, I don't really vibe like it's it's like slower pace and I feel like. The whole genre really like reggae music. Yeah, or. Whatever. And I don't want to hate all reggae, but it's just I don't enjoy it that much, you know, personally, maybe my palate not developed. But I. Don't. It's just different strokes. Right. But that song so I don't really like that I'm like okay here we go. Listen to this song. And he's like. Don't worry bro. About anything bro. It's going to be all right. And then Like it all my anxiety also watching everybody else be like yeah, you're right, we're good. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Are you talking about there's still. Job, I finished, there's still so much work to do. Just finished. Yeah. That's like was it's like Sally finish job. I finished. I don't know what we're so proud. Of and. Satisfied and okay. About. It's so funny that that like, that scene came to my mind. I have no idea why, but that came to my mind. I think I was as I was walking to my car on Saturday night. Really, you know, out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Sometimes things just populate into your matrix, like a song will pop up or something will just be like. Boop. So from where? Where did that come from? Such a random memory? It's like you got to own the series. So you're not happy about that job finished. You just finished. So. Oh, God. Yes. It was the. Perfect attitude. Because you've seen both sides. You've seen like, the confident player who's up to, oh, and the player who's unconfident up to. Oh, and like giving in post-game interviews like a thing. And he just went in and was like, this is exactly how I want to feel and how I want to represent myself feeling, when I have when I low focused. With when I go, we you're talking. About bone chilling. Yeah. Yeah. It's all business. Yeah. He went off that that finals is a magic. He felt inspired by that. Yeah I know that just came out of nowhere. Came I don't know. Where I'm laying in my matrix but just brought that up in regards to. with the Bob Marley. No, but I did grow up with, like, a relative amount of anxiety. I didn't realize there was anxiety until I had, like a surgery. And then I had bad anxiety after the surgery. And then they were like, that's anxiety. And then I kind of got over, like the post-traumatic stuff from having a surgery and then realized that, like that feeling that I felt like on eight out of ten after the surgery, I still feel that every day, and it goes from like a two out of ten some days, or like a 3 or 4, something bad happens, it jumps to a seven, and it's still that feeling of, you know, you're, I don't know, like you're out of control or like you're, it just sucks is what it is. It's like the feeling of like, my brain wants to spiral into negativity and wants to, like, be anxious, you know? Yeah, look for negative outcomes or like, you know, create negatives, right? And it manifest like, if I'm just generally anxious while I'm at work and then I try to go can communicate well, perform like some kind of speech to people, it's like I'm just not as good at the job. Like if you just want to do ones and zeros, it's like was good, wasn't good. And then based on anxiety levels, it's like obvious that if my anxiety is higher, I perform, my performance goes down. and then you go like work out techniques and your mind like, work through that, you know what I'm saying? Or you can just not have anxiety sometimes. And that's like way better. But, yeah. Yeah. As a kid, I was, you know, didn't have all that figured out yet. So then I'll hear that song where it's like, don't worry, man, everything's going to be all right. And I was just like. Every little thing. I don't like this lies. I believe in fucking lies. This is out of. Maybe one day. How does this supposed to help me now? How does that help me now? I'm in the now, bro. This music. I don't even like this song. Sucks. Because it's an anthem for peace. It's so. Strange. It's so funny how I guess. Yeah. When? When did this, was it like a particular time you heard it or was just like a general, general vibe when it was on? I just you hear that every time you go to the lake or you're on vacation or it comes up. Yeah. Six Flags on. A watch. And I am legend. Yeah. It comes up. And, I'm always just like. Being in who need. You know, it's just like, I'm not really rocking to that. so that's over time. I've always been like, that song is, not annoying to me, but I don't know, it just disrupts. It's like a friction. And I have to be like, no, I'm just going to vibe. Everything is okay right now. Everything's perfect right now. over the last three years, I've been able to realize what he's saying because I'm like, yeah, you know, we're okay. You get to that place. Yeah. And I'm like, vegan multivitamins. You know? What it is, is I believe and I truly believe, and I truly trust that I am becoming what I want to be. So I'm able to just be okay. And I didn't always have that. I think. I think sometimes life was like, might get away from me. You know what? Be fucking working at Amazon my whole life. Oh, yeah. That's like that. That'd be my health. maybe that's not health for everybody else, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's all personally customized to your interpretation of things. Yeah. So yeah. Based on your whatever cards you got, Dale. Whatever the fuck's in my brain. Fuck's going on with our. Yeah. Our brains. Where where we come from a DNA. Who knows? But that was a lot of hate speech on Bob Marley for the beginning of a podcast. But do you have any crazy popular opinions? Maybe we can open the door to, That's the top of my head. I don't like future goals. What? that's one. That's relatively unpopular as an opinion. Yeah, yeah. No, not a big future fan, I guess. I don't know, I don't I don't know enough have have not listened to enough of the discography to speak on it. Truly. I love to to any relate with. You, but yeah, in my speculative range of free speech. YouTube of free speech. Amen. Just I'll talk about the vaccine. Just don't talk about things that they don't want to talk about. And you're fine the way the just the way they a way that they don't want you to talk about them. There we go. That's what it is. You can talk about whatever you wanna talk about. But, yeah, I don't like future. Not a big future fan. I've listened to multiple songs. Of course, like some of the songs that he's featured on or he has other popular features on that have been on the radio, whatever, what have you. But yes, never. No, not a fan. Not say that what he stands for. There we go. Now we're getting what. The music stands for. Yeah. Or like the, the fan. Yeah, I don't know, but I guess maybe what I have been exposed to that is what I consider to be future's music is just what I've been exposed to, and maybe what I've been fed through. Whatever, whatever means, whatever songs are being populated. So I have a generalized conceptualization of who this person is, what this person's about. Right? So I have, but maybe if I were to dig deeper into the discography, there be some songs or where there's instances or evidence of like something that I would more empathize with or deem more. no good, whatever. I consider that to be give. More credibility to his career or appreciation for him. Yeah, yeah. Like there might have been moments where he also, I don't know, like maybe in 2009 he came out with something that was like really crazy at that time. And in that moment it was great, you know, but then it maybe didn't age well or like the whole Brandon age. Well. something. Yeah. Something in regards to the culture or whatever. I'm walking on eggshells because I don't want to piss off anybody. That's a big, huge, diehard future fan. Give me a couple songs to listen to and I'll let you know. Everyone has their own opinion. This isn't really bad. Or like, you don't like Bob Marley. Like, just. Give a fuck, dog. Yeah, yeah. True, true. Yeah. Okay. From that basis, yeah I don't yeah I don't like any. Yeah. Fuck them. Yeah. March madness sounds cool. Bonomo. Yeah, it's the beat though. It's the vibe. It's cool, the vibe is cool. The energy's there. But like. Yeah, it sounds cool. Like he uses his voice more as an instrument than like a tool. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh that's hard. Yeah. Oh geez. Yeah. He just. Uses words as instrumental sounds versus. Like biblical. Izing. Yeah. With the like a tool. Yeah. Okay. Vocalizing some people would say the. Depth. The instruments at all. But you're saying that your speeches should not be used. An instrument an instrument. Why would you use your. Sounds good. Right. Yeah. but it's like it's not teaching you truth per se, right? Right. Now, what kind of duty do we owe the people or itself to use your medium to express truth? Yeah, I think it's what we're all doing anyway inherently, you know, expressing our interpretation, our truth, our lens of whatever the fuck's going on in our matrix. Yeah. You know, all debate is that. Yeah. Right. Right. Unless you're debating for ulterior motives. Yeah. But ultimately, every expression of yourself is your conceptualization of the truth. Yeah. You wouldn't argue points you don't believe in. Yeah. You wouldn't be wrong on purpose, right? You wouldn't do shit that you know would not benefit you on purpose. Nobody all the time. Like. Or any of the time by a very minimally if ever would you like, do something on purpose that would put you in a. Rough spot? Yeah. In any event in any situation. Yeah. Oh so careful to talk about oh I don't like Bob Marley and how we don't like feature. And then you just rip the Band-Aid off. You're like give a give a fuck. And it was sorry bro. That's exactly what we talked about earlier. Yeah. There we go. Tore it off me. I was like, oh yeah I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. This is my fucking podcast. Hell. Yes, the dude is awesome. That's the fight we have to fight, though. Yeah, that thing is real. Yeah, man, I the the perception. Perception of being perceived. Yeah. Being observed. Observing yourself, being observed. You act different when you know you're being watch. Oh, we have a truly free. Yeah. Yeah. Just a free mental slaves man. This mess. It's all in here, bro. It's all in there. It's. Everything is in the fucking. Dome in the cranium. All of it. Or at least that's how it feels to me. All of your perception of it. Or at least it feels like I'm localized in my head. There we go. That's fair. If you're right, Jordan Peterson. Nobody talks about it. Really? Yeah. He's like some people say they're like, I don't know. They feeling so sick in in their heart. But like I feel my heart as well and like my gut, you know what I'm saying? Like I have those centers like their heart or like their energy centers more or less, or something like that, you know? But I feel centralized and localized in my dome. Yeah. It's like our eyesight is definitely, I guess if you if you close your eyes. I was still feel like. Yeah, centralized like in my head. You know, saying no, it's spooky thing to feel. It's like, where is your, your where's your where are you. Yeah. You know. Yeah it's my I first of all it's my POV. Makes me think that few. Of you get you like in the first like. Fucking duty. It's like it's here. It's not traveling. My site's not traveling to my feet. It's just like going directly into that, like, brain. You know, the process. I could, like, transfer energy and move energy, move my attention to a part of my body. Right. And, like, then I could feel that part of my body more. So, you know, I'm saying. Yeah, that's my foot. That's weird. Right? Yeah. And you can move your attention across your body, but it feels like it's localized in the head for the most part. You know what I'm saying? Unless you're, like, starving or then the Jordan. Yeah. Jordan Peterson talks about that. He's like some people feel localized in there. I feel like lies in my mind, in my head brain more so. But then some people feel a little more localized in their heart or their chest area. And there's some people maybe more so in your stomach. And then he's like, I feel like he's coming to this like realization in mid-sentence as he's like, mid lecture. And he's like, yeah, it might make sense that you would be identify more so with localizing with your stomach more. In ancient times, back when we were like starving to death, like, oh, like that was more commonplace. You know, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. That's where the feeling is. You feel most. That's where. You feel. Yeah. Where's your attention. Your concentration is there. Yeah. Yeah. You focus. Oh. Are you. Reproducing. Eat and shit. Dude. Being alive back then would have sucked ass. Ten, 20, 30, 40, 50,000 years ago. What do you think? They were over there saying? Fuck that. This sucks. What, you think? What do you mean? They conceptualize that. Their conditions were were us or were they like, we just got one new rain tent that four of us can squeeze under? Eight of us can get half covered. This is fucking awesome. I think. Yeah, I think it's more so like that. How do you have any positivity at all back? I don't. Know, as Earth. Because it is what it is. You know, it just is what it is. I get it. It's just like living 100 years ago. It's like. They they didn't like I don't. Know, you know. You can take that to any scale. You have a feel. Now and they feel that how we're living now. I definitely know that I feel that way better. Now that I feel great. Yeah. I mean, personally. I think this is a crazy cool time. Yeah. Craziest. We are like maybe spoiled Americans in that sense, where there are places where definitely people are definitely still living terribly for sure. But compared to 10,000 years ago, having AC chill last night I had chicken and salmon. I went to the supermarket to get it. Chill. Yes, it was nice. Yeah. Yeah, but 10,000 years ago bro. But that's what I'm saying. Also, how much fulfillment would I gain if I were to become like a one of the best spear fisherman people I've ever heard of? Like I went down in war legend. As. Matthew the Spear. Fisher, the fucking. Crazy guy. Like they're like, he had this thing, he had this thing. And then they called it name. And then like, that word got invented because I was so good at spear fishing. Okay, yes. That reality would be fine. Right? Love it. I guess ultimately, like, if that's my fantasy of being alive 20,000 years ago, I guess what I'm trying to say is there half a feeling, would it be to be good at something even back then, to like the pursuit of being great at it would probably still be just as fulfilling as that is now. Yeah. You just want to have AC, you know? But I think you still have purpose. That's what this 100%. 100%. There it is. Can't take that away okay. The meaning you derive from life. No one can take away the meaning you derive from your life, you know? Yeah. I'm sure that the like. To try to derail you. Yeah. That's it. I had that realization. That's it. That's all you could try to do. That's all you got. You got. It's your only move. The only. That's the only hope you have. And it's just a delay. That's all you can do is delay. Yeah. My heart's the only. Oh, yeah. You never touched my stride. My heart's the only thing you breaking. Oh, so this, just that, my friends. So then the song. It's a great song. It's the truth. Yeah. There's that mode where it's like, yeah, I'm unstoppable. You derive your own meaning from your own life. That's. That's such a such a gift. That's such a it's also such a, like a responsibility and a fucking burden, you know what I'm saying? Could you you have to derive. You have to make meaning out of your life. Because if you don't, it's going to be terrible for you and everyone. And if you try, you might fail. But if you try and you succeed, then you will. It'll be worth it. And those are those are your options. It's like, oh, and that path, the straight narrow. Preach. Crazy. Retweet. I guess. That's it. That's life right there in that nutshell. And it's worth it. Yeah. That's it. As I we love that fucking. That's a, that's a slogan. Yeah that's that's I just do it. Yeah. It's worth. It. Just do it. It's worth. It because it's like in that moment when you're making those calculations and you're doing the mathematics and you're trying to see if it's worth it to step out of the fucking boat that you're in and to the. Safety. Yeah, your day to day comfort. Yeah, yeah. And then ultimately the phrase that just every time it's just like it's worth it, like the exchange is worth it. Even if you fail, the exchange is worth it. The pursuit is worth it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, just do it. It's like, should I go. Outside and run. Around? Just do it. It's like, I think that's why the phrase it's like similarly in our mind. Yeah, it's the same is the same similar message or similar foundational. You know what I'm saying. Root it aspires to be a push into the pool. And you're like oh yes. No it's cold. Yeah. But then you're in the pool. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you said I, I thought you know like a pool like as well. It's like a push and pull. Yeah. I like to just do it. It's worth it. Come on. It's worth I like that conceptualization too. I guess I was thinking about the exchange of, like, myself watching myself. And then I'm having that. That battle with my higher self is saying like, do it. Do the right, do the right thing, go on the right, move over. And then my lower self is like, I'm trying to like push him into the action. I just want to like, go get in there, kid. Yeah, yeah. But I think maybe life itself is more of a calling and a beckoning. And you can feel that, too. I don't think it is. It's not as in there. Say it's both, bro. But it's like this. Like just. Like. This. Like drawing that. If you like, silence everything around you and you truly listen, it's like it is calling you forward. And that. That's awesome. It's hard to lean on that because like you said everything is up here. So you're gonna have to channel yourself into listening to it at its own rate of talking to you and be okay with that. Yeah. Life itself. Yeah. You know interact with the interface. It's a fucking interface man. It's wild. There's other times where it's super loud. Super loud like day after day after day just talking to me. I'm just like This is crazy. This experience is nuts. Yes. You see this thing has little. Connections and winks the coincidences. Oh yeah. Like I told you I was wearing that tie. That one particular tie is like a kind of like a paisley patterned like emerald green tie. It's lit kind of for Christmas. Shout out my mom. Fucking little tie. Top five. Top five. When I'm wearing that tie, I'm top five. Just city. Just like fucking there's. There's no one's touching me I. Want this top five. There's no one's even close like it's. It's not even a debate. But I'm wearing that tie and I always get a compliment or two on it for sure. But then that particular night, it was just abundant. Like as soon as I walked in, boom. Not even an hour later, boom. Not even like an hour later. Boom. And then, like I had it, racked it up to like six, seven, eight compliments at night. Just like, wow, it's crazy. And then and within one of those couple minutes, just thinking about. The green. Was like, there's abundance, like money. I'm thinking about fucking infinite pools of abundance. I'm swimming it for cup runneth over type shit. It's trying to harness that energy. Yeah. You know. Yes, I. I was like, yeah, I'll track the money with this shit. This is awesome. I love this time. And then yeah, the next morning took me on the walk, came back with moves and then in the mailbox out of fucking check. Fucking no. Hey, no telling. Never. No. Just a fucking. You know, it was a amended tax return type shit. But either way, it was a crazy situation that led up to it just because I had, like, ruled it out. I ruled it out so hard. So many, so many month ago, so many a moons ago. I was like, no, this thing I coming in, let me. Look it up. Let me see. No, no, it's not coming in now. Like it's completely written off. It's just done out of the story, completely out of the narrative. I wrote that character off. I was like, oh, they died. Yes. You never saw die. Give me back. I was like, bro, you're you came back with interest was cold more than the expected amount. It I was like, what the fuck is this? I had to go. On the IRS website and fucking verify the check. Like this is a real check. Oh my gosh, it's real. This is real check. Oh, so I was that uncertain. Like, there's no way, like, what the fuck's going on with this? But yeah, just completely wrote that. What? That thing off. Then it just reentered my narrative and the timing of things. And like, I was thinking about the idea of the just the phraseology of the timing of things. It's no coincidence. And like, I remember telling that to my fiancé, just like in, in her own particular story, like our lives are just going crazy, right now. Both of our lives are just like, oh. They fireworks are going off. So this is popping off over here. I know what's going to happen. This is like even near the season finale. It's violent. It's another I don't even know what's going on. Some of those boats are heading to the reaping season, you know, but we're just working all summer, you know, pushing. We push through July. I put some. Work in July of this. Year. I don't even know what it was like around that fourth, the start the year or start the month. It's put in fucking July of work. Really. It's going off. What did you. Do? That's why I started probably incorporating the dishes thing in the morning. Nice. And yeah. Started the business plan. Let's go this way. Ham on 4th of July itself. Like woke up at 530, fucking whatever in the morning and worked out and hit the fucking shit. Came home to swollen feet talk. That talk is. Crazy. Shit, bruh. It's going hard this month. Let's go. So we're entering that reaping season. We reap. It. Dude. Honestly, I'm not gonna lie with you just being in this conversation with you right now. Just having you be like, dude, this month I got all this XP. I was like. My XP just started going up too. I was like, Holy shit, I'm getting waffles right now. Thanks for being my friend, bro. Maybe that's that's what made me realize I was just like, man, the power of your circle is crazy, bro. It's crazy because like, man, you could be sitting here telling me fucking some wild shit, you know what I'm saying? Any infinite number of things could have happened. Yeah, are happening right now. That would that. I don't always feel that influence happening to me, but right then I was just like strength. Inspiration, prayer. It's like, this is. Nuts. Bro. Come on. Yeah bro. Bro, it's been fucking violent. But I remember having that phraseology like, yeah, timing is no coincidence. And then having so then having that check come in right after that, like that green tie money attraction. And then there was like two other events like that weather leading up the day previous and the day previous to that. That was like the check was like the third thing. And then like with the money trope the third time, and then it was just like so unexpected character narrative fucking explosion. I was like, wow. And then I remember like realizing that. Like is just. Like, I like, scared her almost was like, whoa. Whoa, whoa. Said it was like bang, bang, bang. Like I was like just looking over the life film. And then, yeah, I was like, hit it. Oh, what the fuck? Yeah. That's crazy. Just a three. You got me trippin, dude. Just lined up wilin. So should I line up for you? I feel talk to you. It's crazy. Talk to you sometimes. It's super loud. You can't turn it down. It's beautiful. That's perfect. That's what we want. People wish God would just scream their name and tell them what to do. You know what I'm saying? I wish it was easy. Yeah. I wish it was simple. Every. Amen. I agree with you. I'm not saying I know what God wants. Know. Yeah, it's the hardest thing in the world. I wouldn't dare to say so ambiguous. This whole thing is so ambiguous. Yeah, there's. There's times in my life where I know that I have done the wrong thing. And times in my life where I know I've done the right thing, and I definitely base what I believe God wants for me based off of those experiences, you know? So it's like there are definite from time to time, but it's most mostly a faith driven relationship because it's mostly a faith driven life. It's like. Yes, bro. 100 major. Key. You know the thing I know the thing I realized, I don't think I was pondering. Was that it's like. The same way that no one could be definitive about what happens after life. Like no one could be definitive of what's happening in life. You know, say, all we're doing is our best to articulate what we think is happening. Yeah, anyone. And we could all just, like, come to common places based on our own experience and like, based on the way you like you I don't know, like when I hear Jordan. Peterson talk, I'm just like, yes. Yes. What do you mean? They tried to tell me. No one said no, motherfucker. Yes. Yes, yes. Jordan Peterson show beside what you say. Why don't you. Ask me when you. Say. When you hear him speak words and you sit on your couch and you're just like. Yes, yes. Like what do you. What do you mean. What do you. Yeah. What do you mean? This is something you feel it or like when you or I guess definitely whenever you're in agreeance with someone about something, you're, like, especially like if you're sitting at a table with people or, like, in a fucking lunch room and people are talking and someone says they like this or they like that, or they don't like this, they don't like that. You're like, yeah. You know, saying, yeah. But then but if someone is talking about objective reality and like the basis of what the fuck's happening here, I'm like just a super skeptic that's super skeptical for the skeptical person, but is hesitant to agree, you know, wholeheartedly with something. But when he's talking, it's easy sometimes. Yeah, of course there are times when I'm like, oh, I'm not sure if I would like. I think maybe that is not true in this particular scenario. I think you're this is or you're giving more importance to this instead of looking at this or something. You know, I'm just talking with people. Yeah, well, listen to this. Anybody talk about anything, it's like, okay. Yeah, I agree, especially for or if someone's talking about life, everyone has an interpretation of what's going on here. Maybe it's more specialized. Like if you know about a particular thing, like a particular field of study and you're talking about that and you literally have no idea what they're talking about, they're like, okay, I'm gonna shut up and like, take what is potentially true. But he's just talking about abstract concepts, I guess, like he has religious. He uses like religious symbols, like symbology and those stories to articulate just kind of what he thinks is going on here. But if you like to strip away the religious notion and just literally listen to what he thinks about what's happening in life, it's like that's where I'm listening to it from. And I just like, okay, yeah, I see what you're talking about. I can see where that's how that's true. I can see how that's not true or whatever. But for the most part, I'm like, he's just hitting me. He's just hitting me. Everything he's saying in his head is like, okay, yeah, that's fucking most of the time. It's like in D2 sometimes if someone's like, really? Are you really fucking feeling it? It's just like it's such a depth. You're like so engaged with what they're saying. Yeah. Or at least you want to listen to what they have to say next. Yeah. It's a format where he's also expressing ideas. So like if someone's just in conversation, it's rare that you're like so drawn to what they're saying. You put down everything you're doing because most people aren't presenting life truth like that. Sometimes in the middle of debate, somebody is like, okay, well, you're talking about this and you're talking about this, but what we're not talking about and you're like, oh shit, what's happening here? They just like kind. Of go in and like, you know, not just convince you, but you're like, oh my gosh, they're right. You know what I'm saying? They're like, that's the best argument I've heard. But there's also something different with Jordan Peterson where it's like in my chest, my heart starts to like, flutter. Yeah. All of a sudden I feel like, inspired. I feel like activated. I'm like, yo, this is. Yeah, right. This is it right here. Like, yes. Yes. That right there. What the like. And it's I don't. Know, I don't strange. I don't think do you think like a religious cult leader could also get us to be. Like. Yes, yes. Potentially. Potentially. Rogan says that your ability to the, the degree to which you will say yes to anybody means you could have got got by anybody. But I disagree in that regard with me and Jordan Peterson because like that shit's different. I'm like, I don't think I don't think that you could convince me as much because I don't think you could create an axiom that I believe more than I believe this. Yeah. He's not asking us to do anything or like. You know, saying it's going to be part of his weird fucking cool. Yeah. There's no. But play like I don't know how they do it over there. This fucking weird people. That concern is like groupthink and mind virus. because like the there's a lot of people that say, man, they shouldn't miss Donald Trump. Yeah. There's a lot of people in college saying that just to say it because it's like I think in my opinion, that's like a groupthink mind virus. They're like they're convinced of things that don't make sense. You know? Civil war. So crazy shit would be going down maybe. Oh, gosh. Yeah, Brian fucking knows. Well, the groupthink was like that. Donald Trump was going to be the end of democracy. That he was not going to step down after four years is going to turn into a tyranny. And allegedly I see or that's a proposed narrative. Yeah. Or. Well, it's definitely been said and it floats around. And then especially on maybe now it's Bernie Sanders saying that. But on TikTok, what they're actually watching for the news and stuff, it's a lot of highlighting those moments where leaders in the DNC have said things like that. And allegedly, that's the stuff that got to the shooter that made him feel like he was doing America justice by assassinating Donald Trump, because he's like a fucking villain. Damn. And I think that's almost the direct product of just like a groupthink mind virus. I think it's like. It's a fucking narrative, bro. I've been we we started rewatching Game of Thrones, or I guess last week, gas. It's just so gas. It's I've, I've seen I've seen all the seasons once at least I've seen the first season. Probably this is by like my fourth time maybe or so watching the first season. but it's and then yeah, it's my fiancee's second time watching it all the way through, and it's just like it's been long enough to where she's forgotten. And it's even I forgotten some of the stuff because there's so much shit that goes on. There's so many characters deep, like off the fucking jump. It's like it's it's better the second time around ultimately, because it's cool to watch our experience and be able to live that vicariously, experience it as well. Like has. This show is so fucking good. This stuff, this story. Is so fucking good. It's so crazy versus the story about the the fucking the narrative that people are fed of what's going on here and who controls the truth. Ultimately. You know. it's like what's true and what's honorable and what's right and who's in charge and who has power. and it's like all of that just like mixed in the one in the fucking mystical land of like, crazy Harry Potter world, you know, saying on steroids. That's awesome. Yeah. With a whole bunch of the whole bunch of nudity. But anyway, like Harry Potter and everybody says to make sure that it really stuck. Yeah. What? Y'all y'all don't be watching. This with your. Kids. I promise you. Heard that. It's Wiley. Yo, it's Wiley. These are things. These are things that fascinate us. Yeah, I think it's partially why I hit so hard as well for people. It's like, yeah, it's it's a show about politics, more or less. This is dressed up with medieval sci fi fantasy garb, you know, and politics. Well, I don't know, man. None of us are actually involved in politics. But everyone that's it. You're probably exists in a system, and that system probably does have politics at play. Not all of them do, but some of them have a lot. So it's hard to say. But it does fascinate us. But I think that Jordan Peterson hits us because it's just a medium for truth. He's just like preaching. And we're just like. That's his intent as well. You know? Yeah. That's what he's trying to do. Yes. It's like, yeah, you're fucking doing it bro. That's should say this is his head. He heads. Bro. But okay. So that's also combined with like when I watch Remember the Titans or I watch fucking Tom Clancy, Michael Jordan or I watch The Last Dance. Like things happen. People say things and I like, well up with tears because I'm so emotionally moved by, like, what I'm watching and like, how much I agree with, like, the when the coach is like talking to the players at the fucking, he takes them on a run because they're fighting a camp a bunch. And, this is a member of the Titans and he takes him on a run and it's like four in the five in the morning, and it's like bunch of fog everywhere. And then it's like they just like they run for a long time, and then people start obviously getting tired. And then they keep running and people are like throwing up and they keep running. People are like passing out. And then eventually they get there and they're all like dying, right? And then he just start saying like, you know, we're this right here is, a burial site from one of the fights over Gettysburg is like they had brothers fighting, brothers and sons and fathers and all these people who couldn't just unite and like, one cause killed like thousands of people over something that was clearly wrong. And then, like, right now, you guys are more or less doing the exact same thing, just in this current day and time. It's like we just have to like, if if we can't come together, then like, we should just not even do this anymore. It's like they died, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't even want to play. That because I couldn't get it right. Right. Like. And then more or less like, they're so inspired at that point, they start like being called each other, and then they start having fun. And then once they have some fun, they're like, good. You know, I in they start going crazy, bro. It's like winning. Winning. And like that shit is like. So just in that point of view, that guy talking, that truth, I'm like so moved bro. Like everybody so moved bro. It's like, fuck that. Like that's it. Like what? That thing Jordan Pierce is doing that thing to where it's like you're talking at such a high frequency, elevated truth in this moving way where you just get moved. Like, I don't think I'm getting moved by someone telling me a religious cult, you know? Yeah. I don't think so. No. Definitely no. But play that, they move the go. Move my spirit, bro. Yeah. What the fuck are we talking about? I guess I never see. I know Joe Rogan just mentioned a whole bunch of times, and there's definitely a couple documentaries and shit, like on Netflix and Hulu and whatnot, but I've never seen one. But my thought is just like, how do you get swindled into that? How do you get that pulled into something, you know? And then one of those things, I've heard him talk about it so I can gather and generalize a little bit of what about how it's just so crazy. And I guess they, they like, fake perform miracles and make people believe in crazy shit like that, or like they can that they heal the broken leg, but like, it was never broken in the first place. They just put a cast on it. You see that shit like that? Yeah, or whatever. But that's fucking. Wild. Like out of you, Scary shit. That's crazy. Bro. Yeah, you get. That swindled into it. If I had to give you, like, a. I'm always so fucking sorry. I'd be like. It probably wasn't broken. Yeah. That's great. That would cross my mind. That definitely crossed my mind. I've watched enough Game of Thrones. If I was a kid and you were my dad. And that was the first thing you said when I saw a miracle happen. I would think you were an asshole. I'd be like, oh, how is that what you think right now? If it's true? But but I also now, as an adult that has to be mature, has to say like, it's good to be that skeptical, right? Yeah. Because because that's what here's the thing. If we're all going to be like very emotional, if we're going to shake up our fucking axioms, it has to be true. Yeah. You need to be able to be super skeptical with yourself and what you deem to be true. Yeah. You know, saying. Because if they're trying to tell me he caught a fucking 70ft bass, the biggest bass anyone's ever seen. Guinness is coming down like I can't. I would like, change my conceptualization of like, so many things. So like that's a really demonstrative example. But anytime you're gonna, like, brag about something or say you ran this time or I lifted this weight, it's like, I'm going to change the way I fucking am. I start, I'll be like, where are you fishing at? Then I spend my whole life fishing in that place. I thought he caught that 74 bass. But it was just a lie, you. Know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so, like, I don't like to be skeptical of people. I like to believe people. They love to. I. Of the. That was perfect. That's it enough. So But unfortunately we have to it. Had to be you. Had to the world's. Motherfuckers out there. That's out so. Easy. A lot of people. Be so easy, so easy. So easy. For some people, it's so simple. It's so quick and yeah, so effortless. The effortless way, you know? So I say, you know, you know what I'm saying? I give a fuck about not telling lies. Like I give a fuck. It got to the point where I was counting how many lies a day I was telling when I worked at Sawgrass, because it takes them up. Sometimes they'll be just like. Look at it, just look at them. Yeah, just look at the board. Look at the scoreboard, because it'll make you sick. You need to get sick sometimes. Yeah. I would end up telling people like, I'm still going to school or I'm, oh, yo, I'm going back to school soon, or I want to finish that degree. Fucking bullshit, dog. Fucking bull. I would be, like, at sitting in my car. I'd be like, I'm not malarkey. Oh, malarkey. I am not going back to get that degree like that is not my plan right now. Fuck around player around. If I just tell people that's my plan. And then in the back of my head, I'm like, oh my God, I might do that. It's like, no, we're doing this. Focus on this. You have to. This is this. This is more true. Yeah, yeah. And also it's it. It's more about what I want more in line manager. Because whatever gets diluted did. If I have these stories of possibilities of things I might be interested in. So getting my attention directly aligned with this thing. Yeah. That was part of the importance of putting out the centralize it. Yeah. So it'd be like a flashlight. It's like a fucking laser beams. Yeah. I to everybody I'm doing this, I'm doing this, I'm doing this because telling people, oh, I'm a rapper, well, I'm serving the mistake of salt grass. It's just like such a polarizing moment. How does anybody, anybody that told me that it just requires further questions, just requires further questions. And then. Oh, yeah, but over the whole door. But also the perception is my perception. It's kind of my money I'm going to make I need to be like not an actor per se, but like, I have to give a fuck what they think about me. Whereas if you ask me about my identity in any other setting, I don't have to give a fuck what you think about me. So it'd be like this whole little, like, dance around, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Weird little dancer. how do I phrase this in a way where you're going to, Or I don't know where I'm going to gel with you? Fuck that shit. Fuck that shit. Like, had to be laser beam focus centralized on my sense of self. Yeah. All that to say. Well not all that to say. But back to that also when we're talking about how do you get swindled into things, that's like if I have to give. You a. Answer bro. Like people that lack that sense of self. Yes. Big time they're looking for it. And someone else, for sure. Yeah. Or something else outside of themselves? Yes. It's all here. Baby. Fall is here. It's all in here and here and here. Those are the three. Don't be looking anywhere else. That's it. But I'll also the guy that exists outside of you. There's a lot. It's so deep. It's so profound. Bro. You know what else? I was gonna, I'm gonna look up because I fucking. JB had the podcast with Joey Ro recently. Fucking love it. Fucking love it. Talking about Exodus, talking about the important shit that came out Thursday. How long are we on this one? 40 minutes. Yeah. I just get sad when it's over. So I'm always like. What's going on. Here? I, I'm having anxiety. We're chilling. Well, yeah, they came out Thursday but then. Yeah, on Sunday. Did you see the service? No. Pastor. I'm not sure if you talked about it in every service, but he mentioned it in the 12:00 for sure, right. No, no, no, it was a different time. It was 1130 because they changed up the times. So he mentioned in the 1130 for sure. But he was talking about and it's crazy too, because we were going, we were driving up to it and then driving in and then like driving up to a lake to turn left into the spot and then Victoria springing up her phone, talking about, she was on Facebook, just like looking up stuff, whatever. And then she just like, man, I'm done with the Olympics. I was like, what? Like, then they just start. Like. They started on Friday. I'm pretty sure. Okay. And I joined Peterson podcast on Thursday. Okay. But because I was like, we talking about, you know, I'm going to be referencing two. I saw a video last night and I think. That I do. Okay. Yeah. Then she was like, yeah, the fucking opening ceremony saw some shit. Yeah. I was like, what? And I was like, yeah, they're doing like they're like it was like a and not interpretation or whatever the fuck it was. Whenever. Opening ceremony. How many opening ceremonies? either way, I'm getting ahead of myself. Hahaha. But within the opening ceremony. Talk to me. Yeah, there's just the rendition of The Last Supper with people in drag. Really? Yeah. I haven't seen that one. Okay. Yeah. Really? Yeah. And then pastor and I was. Like, what the like? That's so weird. That's so random. Why would anyone they do that? I saw a different opening ceremony ritual that they said was like, the conspiracy video I was watching. It said it was a satanic ritual, more or less. Well, you were, like the same. The same ritual. Well, it was a different part where this person saying Olympics. Yeah, yeah. 2020. Four. This person's getting off of a white horse, and the white horse has, like, when it lines up with the wings they put on the Eiffel Tower. It's got like the wings behind this horse and it's like more or less, representing so this interpretation, like the horse of the apocalypse. And then this, like person gets down and they're like, I guess, representing death. The person that would ride the horse of a white horse, and then they're like, dressed like a fuckin like they're wearing, like, all gray and all black. And then it's like, real, like, it's almost like a costume. It is a costume. And they have, like, no face, and it's like, spooky, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then they're, like, carrying this, like, blanket to be sacrificed in front of, like, a giant gold cow head. And it's pretty fucked up, dude. It's pretty fucked up. Shit. And then they're like, what. The fuck is going on the Olympics? I don't know, bro. Who's hosting. This shit? It's Paris, but sorry. I continue to like who's in charge of this shit forever. Yeah, that's continue. That's a question. No, but then I hear you talking about this. I hadn't even heard of that. Yeah, there was a fucking. There was this, like a portion of it where there's a whole bunch of, I guess, like 12 people dressed up in drag and like, like a at last supper type rendition. Okay, I don't know. I don't know how to take that. What had happened at church? Yeah. Various Victoria mentioned before we went into church and I was like, that was crazy. And then in church, you know, pastor Ray talks about it a little bit. Okay. Yeah. Oh, what's his context? And he was just saying he's like, okay, I'm doing this. I'm doing my I'm doing my, my sir or whatever. He said, like my sermon right now, I'm like, I'm gonna take a step outside of that if you if you'll allow me. Just like because there was a, I forget what, what verse it was, but there's a verse, verse I God will not be mocked. God will not be something, something. And he's like mentioned that verse and then steps outside of the service sermon and it's like he's like, and I don't know what's going on with like the, the Olympics or whatever, but like why they didn't make fun of like Buddha. They made fun of like, like any other religion or whatever. He names a couple of religions, but he's more or less just like, like my God will not be mocked. Like we're like this. Just, I don't even know what else there. There's nothing, like, hostile or, like, truly hostile. You know, I'm saying reason. Like, it wasn't. Like we all spit at black player. It wasn't like that. But no, no, I was just like that. Like, that's also fucked up shit. It's also random shit. It's also I'm like, what the fuck? Shit. You know, it's like, that's. What's going on. Here. Exactly. It's it's super questionable, super random and weird and kind of like out of place and unnecessary. You know. We're cracked for talking about this kind of stuff on the air, but yeah, with you, I don't know, fuck them. So. Podcast. Yeah. There we go. What the fuck is that? Yeah. What are you. Doing? So strange. Like, I've never seen an Olympic opening ceremony before. It's like, I guess I don't know what to expect, but it's just. Like, I don't know why it's. So. That's okay. Okay. I guess I want to know who. Who who's, like, coordinating. All this, you know? Yeah. Because now people are talking about it. Maybe we just like to bring up hostility and whatever. Yeah, or just to to poke a bear. I don't even know. You know what I'm saying? You want to poke God? Yeah. You're crazy. There's just Christians. Oh, yeah. That's who I guess. I don't know, you know, I don't. Know what one. Thing is that apparently Russia and China both want to. Like, poison our culture and create self hostility. They want that civil war that might have happened if Donald Trump had been. God, God. God, God. I think that some people say that China's been trying to do that for like 20 years, and that TikTok is a result of that and that, okay. So there's like on Facebook, there's 20. If you just wanted to look for like a Christian Facebook group, there's 20. Like, if you could put the number of members in numerical order, descending one through 20, set aside right of the biggest ones that there are only one of those isn't like a Russian troll farm. What the. Fuck? Yeah. Christian. Christian search. Search groups are Kirk Christian groups. Like, if you were to look up like a like a Christian friends group or a Christian church group. it's like a social page you could join. Yes. Of those type 2019 of those were fake pages made by fake. People in Russia. And Russia. That's so strange and so strange. As you're talking about this, I'm thinking about the idea that every nation the same, everything is built on the judgment, and the judgment is going to determine your choices and what you do and what you think and what you're saying, what you allow and what you don't allow, and what you consistently do. That's all a result of your judgment. And every country is the result of judgments. Or you know what I'm saying? Like, we're all based on a doctrine and like, we're all based on something. We're all founded on something, some ideology that controls our laws, that controls our how we regulate things, all that shit. And it's all ideas. And just like our belief systems and we're fucking founded on Christianity more or less like Western Western civilization, you know, I'm saying. Yeah, let's say America is specifically founded on. Our money and God we trust. Yes, true. Just like more what we're founded on. And it's like our even our founding fathers talking about that shit, you know? Yeah. Like the building blocks for what the Founding Fathers built was from the building blocks of their Christian faith. Their ideas. Yeah, yeah. Their values. The way that they perceive the world, like, what the fuck we're doing here? We need to sacrifice properly if we want to have a fucking shot at any of this. Yeah, that's like what Jordan Peterson's preaching about, what the Bible is about. Ultimately, that's like the ultimate, like Jewish Judeo Christian belief is that, like, sacrifice has to be done properly for us to even have a chance. And if you like, if you ultimately sacrifice the ultimate thing to your ultimate potential for as long as you can, like that's like your your ability to be, like saved and like your life will be worth it. More than worth it, actually. It'll be you'll have a blessed life. It's like, oh. That's possible. Yes, because it's fucking also possible to have a really shitty life and to not make sacrifices and and not take up the responsibility that's required and necessary to fulfill the sacrifices that are required and necessary to feel good about this thing. Yeah. You know. Yeah. So not be sitting in your own shit. Yeah, yeah. That's rough. Fuck that. That's the worst. Literally. So like, we're built on that. Like everything's built on something and like, that's what we are built on I think as a society. So maybe they're trying to poison. They're dangerous, you know what I'm saying? That's why I'm attacking Christian specifically. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about that cause I was telling the lady I was like, man, this is. A maybe they're scared. The elites or whoever, because I think I forget who where I got this information from. I'm just pulling it. I'm sorry. I don't have any any credentials or like, credible. Sources at all. But there was someone who said, they studied multiple religions, multiple theologies, multiple origin myths, everything, whatever, look at through a whole bunch of shit. And they were saying that Christianity was cool. I'm not even sure if I got back this up, but hopefully it's true. This think Christianity was cool specifically because within its own perception of what the hell's going on here, what we think about like creation and the creator and our relationship with it, whatever it is that we are, we are. It's special because we mentioned that, or we're the only one that mentions that. It's like hosted within our own self, or it's like we're the host of it. It lives within us. It's like we are that connected to it. okay. You know, I'm saying it's not something outside of yourself that you worship like you could. It's in here. Yeah. It's like we host it. We. That's like the super powerful. It's like super empowering. Yeah. It is. It's like the same thing that created the universe. And the universe created planets that created, like, how all these people, all, have all these fucking animals and plant life and all this life and all this crazy shit that's going on on these planets like that was created by the universe. Like that creative force is the same creative force that's like within yourself. And it's like outside of creation itself, but it's also here with you as well. It's what animates you. It's like the basis of our like. Like, our faith, you know, it's like special or it's like different because at that particularly, it's like one of its defining characteristics. That you're going. Off, keep going. It's just the fact that that's. Just that's it's powerful. That's a very powerful thing to be telling people. It is. You don't need anybody. You don't need shit. Like you just need to be able to sacrifice properly. Yes, you're right. You know, I'm saying. Why don't they want prosperity and freedom and individual? Because it's say, I don't know, right? What the fuck are you want the fuck you don't want winners? Like, what the fuck, dude? But here's the thing. I want to be challenged. They don't want to change this one more control. Why the. Chaos. If corporations. Not a united front? Yeah. Yeah, they want us to be a working class. They want everybody working. Yeah. Those hunter families or whoever. Many people. Yeah. And our families. Right? God knows how many in. Russia and China definitely want to disrupt us as far as just like we're the LeBron James of countries. Let's go. You know what I'm saying? As our flag bearer. yeah. Yeah it's scary bro. That's what it's like to be is coming. That man 40 you know billionaire. Oh yeah he yeah. That's iconic right. But that's it's a great it's a great idea for what I'm trying to say. As far as I think that China and Russia that well whatever foundational core they're built on and wherever they land it now, because I think a lot of people would argue back that we've gotten away from what, you know. Whose fault is that? So what are you gonna say? Right? Right. But you get the idea. That current day, we've gotten away from what Thomas Jefferson wanted from us. Whatever Russia was founded on, there's definitely, high likelihood that the way that Putin is running Russia now isn't aligned with the way that it's supposed to be run at its core and its foundation. regardless, though, it does seem to me that even up to like the 1970s, in the 1980s, the way that Russia was being ran and the way that China was being ran, and the way that the United States were being run as global superpowers, that we I mean, we had to fucking go to war with, like Germany and, I don't think Russia was on our side for that. I don't know my history as well as I should. Yeah, that was the axis and the allies was Japan. Germany, PJ, you know, was Italy. Some European motherfuckers. I don't know. Regardless, the Cold War and what was World War Two about. That was the Nazis. Yeah. Concentration camps, Pearl Harbor. For whatever reason. Seems like Russia's become like our number one up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What is up with that? We didn't even have, like, global conflict with them leading up to this. And I think Russia had their own civil war. I think that's maybe where, Ascii came from. And people like that. Okay. Then, like people join peers in talks about. Yeah. Like, the gulag. Okay. That's a Russia. Yes. Okay. Well, I also. Know somewhere over there, a. Lot of what I know about Russia is that. And during those times they were living in like, extreme dictatorship, Soviet Russia. Yeah. Hard conditions, you know what I'm saying? Like communism, way gone out of hand. They were one of the reasons we were like, we can't have communism. Look at fucking Russia. You want to live like the Russians? Like what? The fuck? 1984 was written in Russia. Car drives you. Yeah, but whatever the fuck. Yeah, whatever. That family Guy joke. There we go. Hell yes, bro. Boom! We're Poland, we're Poland. Facts there. Yeah, we're getting some kind of stuff. Come on now. I got family guy facts. He's about the Joe. Rogan facts, dudes. Okay. Yeah. But all that to say, it seems like even up to the 1970s, in the 1980s, that the United States definitely needed to have some kind of like, morality drove us, and we were trying to spread that morality. That's one of the reasons we went into Iraq, was to try to deliver democracy. We were, quote unquote. But, one of the reasons that worked is because we were a country that felt like we had to spread democracy. These motherfuckers don't have those freedoms that we have, and we got to go out there and try to give them the people, you know. And with that being said, I do think that if China and Russia are corrupt and America used to be about getting rid of the corruption, that it would make sense to cause social strife and discord in America, to try to destabilize us as a global superpower. for. The next 100 years of control over this planet. Yeah, it all falls back to control. And it's like, what the fuck? Why? What are you doing? What are you even doing? I think it's something like I could. Losers. Dude, this guy makes 50 billion as long as. Trillion. Looks like to you. He makes 50 billion. As long as he continues this pursuit of corrupting for money. And ultimately, he could go from 50 billion to 250 billion if America were to fall. And and that's the only game they're playing anyways or they're going to get shot. So I think it's an easy sell. Fuck the Americans. Now I could just be that could be a lot of Tom cruise propaganda. I might be. Brainwashed by seeing a ton of Hollywood, but it seems like that's what's going on behind the scenes here, is that Russia and China have spent a lot of time and a lot of money engaging in ways to socially disrupt what we have going on here. So it's not a far fetched for me to think that China and Russia or just China solely or Russia solely some group got together, wealthy individuals planned this last dinner with cross-dressing people. Okay. The number one question for me right away was were they making fun of it? Is that what they were doing? Like, I don't know. You couldn't tell me that they were. It wasn't a coincidence. Trying to integrate that faith with their subculture. Like so one more time. Even the cross. Dresses the Jesus. Justin I agree, I agree, yeah, no, I know you do. I'm all for it. But I think that what like the potential argument is that was the statement, okay, that they were like we love Jesus. That was. The intent. Yeah okay. It could also be if our body conspiracy theorist, it could be an attempt to try to get discord in local churches. Now it looks like. Maybe like the church. Goers aren't supportive of the LGBTQ. And if you turn that monster on the church goers, it's a fucking don't give us that virus. Try to kiss Jordan Peterson. No, I'm trying to cancel our pastors. Come on. But some pastors might have to think. They have to say something about that. And maybe some of them are bigots. And that's an even bigger problem, because now you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The stir them up, those waves will ripple out and then cause its own discord. I'm saying bro. So other we never know you know you. Never know never know bro. You never know. People. You never fucking know people. Always be skeptical. Remain skeptical. One of the steps you can take to definitely think that China might be doing something along those lines is that China, TikTok and American TikTok are two different algorithms for people, especially for kids. Like kids get shown a lot more like, like science, mathematics. it's like their TikTok is algorithm is way more educational based, especially for younger age groups, whereas ours has like no fucking filter. It might even be like horrible shit is more likely to pop up. And also they should they shut TikTok off in Japan or China. There's like a time where like kids can't get on TikTok anymore. It's like the law. They don't have that shit here dude. Yeah. They're going off over there. What the. Fuck. Yeah. That's just a why would they do that for them and us? You know what I'm saying? It's like that's obvious. There's some kind of. At least they don't give a fuck about us. Maybe we're we're they're guinea pig to see if they don't regulate it. What would happen? Assholes. PJ, assholes. Did. Yeah. Why would it not. Just be the same thing? Yeah. That's why I tell people like, I'm genuinely concerned about China's, behind the curtain infiltration into American culture. All right, guys. They got a lot of property, a lot of companies. I care about. What the fuck they're doing. How much of China do we own? then we'll never know. But I think we owe China. A lot of money. Yeah, right. I think we owe them some money. Yeah, well, I have no idea. I'm just speculating here. Speculate with me. I think we owe them a. Lot of money. Maybe, like, a lot. A lot of money. They're much older society than we are. They're probably a lot wealthier. They've been around for multiple thousand more years. I at least a thousand more years. How long? Oh. Let's Google I should. Get that fucking. Yeah, bro. We get ChatGPT all of this shit. We finish ChatGPT. How many open ceremonies have there been in the Olympics in general, and what were they? Who directed them? Yep. Who funded them? ChatGPT we're going to get to the bottom of this, y'all. If you ain't using ChatGPT yet, you're behind. So behind I'm using it. I'm falling behind. It's like it's moving fast, y'all, if you're not using it. I remember doing an interview with somebody and I was talking to him about wine and I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it's like Pinot noir Cabernet, like some red. Definitely those two for sure. And then Chardonnays, the whites, those are like probably three most important to start with. Get those going. It's going to ChatGPT do you touch it? They're like, no, I was like, kid, you falling behind? I'd say that you're. Basically weird converse in today's NBA. What are you doing? It's tough, but I feel like when we work with our friend Daniel and he had discovered ChatGPT, I felt like he felt that way about us. And it also. And then when I felt my dad feel that way about it, I was like, okay, this is this is like provocative. I was like, let me, let me figure out what y'all are on. You know what I'm saying? Because provocative in a sense, it provoked action. But and they were right, and you were right, and you're right right now. It sounds harsh, but yeah, you should get on ChatGPT. It's crazy. Yeah, you could do lash it on there. You do a lot of shit on that really quick. One thing I have ChatGPT open. What was the thing we wanted to look at first? oh, yeah. When was China founded and when was America founded? Founded? Probably the wrong word for China. But. Yeah. The first Chinese dynasty. When was that established? So I a similar typing right. There we go. And what did they tell me? That the People's Republic of China occurred on 1949. And I'm just like, there is no fucking way. 1949 just started. Yeah. What are you talking about? They restarted the update, a new version. I don't even know what BCE is, but it says the. First common. Error. Okay, yeah. The first Chinese embassy is traditionally considered to be the Xia chee Chee dynasty, which is still in 2070 BCE. 2070. Yeah. So yeah. How does how two years ago again. So it's like we're in 2024 and we go back to zero. Yeah. That's that's that's the Jesus. Yeah. The birth of Jesus. I think that's well there's 80 and that's after the after death. Right, right. Okay. So we would add. Yeah. So then what happens? We he's 33. So after death so 33 years before that. Is that zero. Those are the only real years. Everything else was just everything. Else has been a project simulation. Simulation. Fucking fucking dead. So it's so. Jesus dies or is born like I see dies dead. Zero. Okay, so now we're going. So then before he dies, he has 33 year lifespan. So what's that? Is that BCE one to. You know what I'm saying is like 33 BCE or BC. Logically that zero. Was he born? 33 B.C. when was Jesus born? It's got to be zero. No. Here's what I think. You ready? So yeah, DVT is what it is. Okay, okay. So Jesus, like myself, you know it's a big life's happening. And then Jesus is born. But like they say he's a messiah. But they're not like, you know what I'm saying? They don't know. That for sure for sure. But they still try to kill him. They still try to make sure it doesn't happen. And then there's a baby. Yeah I'm pretty sure they were pursuing them. That's why they had to go have a baby in a manger was because they were like traveling I don't know what's that of. I don't would be wrong about the Bible. Come on now. We feed a lot. We often alert the day because this time shit's fucking weird. What a BCE, 2020. Whatever. Was the year 2000? Something or 200 something to. But I have the answer to the year thing. Yeah. Okay, okay. Is that what you're asking me? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So the other thing is like, Jesus was a baby. And then because when he died, I think that was when they were like, well, the sky turned black and they realized God's real, and we just killed his son. And like, yo, I think that's when they were like, we fucked up. Can we just start over right now? Yeah, run it back. So that's what I think we've done. That's 80 starts at Christ death. Okay. And then BC is a reference to before Christ's death. I don't think that they're talking about before Christ existed. Right. So then those 33 years are just like I mean those legitimately might be the only real years of life that ever occurred. Like God might have done something different when he gave us Jesus. And then God was literally walking on earth with us, which was crazy. And then, like divinity, left Jesus right before he died. And so that's like God leaving Jesus. And it's just Jesus. And he's like dying on the cross. And it's like he really, like, felt that pain. God wasn't like making it easy on him, you know what I'm saying? So, like, there's something to be said for that. When God was walking with us. Also Adam and Eve time, when did that happen? Right. But one of the so. So when does China get it get existed established? Yeah. Okay. So well, this thing that I was saying is yes, the King Herod had heard that there was going to be, like the king of the Jews was going to be born into Jerusalem. And then he felt threatened by the prophecy of a new king, and he ordered the massacre of all the innocents, which is the killing of all male children two years old and under in Bethlehem, and an attempt to eliminate the baby Jesus. But Jesus family fled to Egypt to escape Herod's decree, thus saving him from the massacre. So that's what I'm saying. When they were like going and they there was no place at the end for them, that's because they were running from that. So they could still have Jesus. So yeah, they knew like, whoa, this might be like huge right here. But might be a book. Yes. He's going to take my spot. That baby. Crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. And then I think as he performed miracles it was. Like, can you look at the year thing again? Yeah. It was. So when was Jesus born? When was Jesus. Born? Zero four BCE four yeah. Okay. It says between 6 and 4 BCE. Is that generally estimated historical and astronomical date? There's reference to. 4 to 6. 6 to 4, I guess because they're counting. It's one, two, three, four, five, six. So it's like negatives almost or like it's just going positive in this. Oh, I see why it's confusing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. So when we say like 1200 BCE, we got to go like that way. Yeah. Away from today's. Time. Yeah. We're over here. Yeah, I can say like, how many years ago was the Chia dynasty? Because that would give us a total number on the chart. Right. There we go. 4094 years ago, which is 2070 BCE, going this. Way 4100 years. And negative integer. Yeah, yeah. I didn't understand it. That was confusing as fuck. I was like, oh God, the wild. One time is weird. Yes. Of Jesus was born around four. Yeah, or five BCE. Why did. Crazy BCE. Change to. Yeah. How do they know? Modern time? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. When did they start? Like, what the fuck? I don't I don't. I don't believe it. Simulation. Oh, wow. So simulation talk. BCE is just a politically correct way of saying before Christ. That's great. Shut the fuck. Up. Get the fuck out of here. I've never said yeah again. That fucking he out of here bitch. Okay. And Christ A.D. is actually a Latin term Anno Domini, which means in the year of our Lord. In case you're one, I doesn't really mean after death. Oh, yeah. It's trying to tell me why they changed it from BCE to BCE, but I'm asking, why did they start counting years backwards? As in, why isn't it just one long timeline? Oh, well, since the concept of counting years backwards before a set point and forward after, it comes from the establishment of the birth of Jesus Christ as a central reference point in the Western calendar system. The system was devised by a monk. His name is Dionysius, excuse for a Latin in the sixth century current era A.D., who established the year of Christ's birth as 180 years before this event were labeled before Christ. So you're right, it wasn't even crucifixion. It was like from the year he was born. And there was this guy who was making a calendar of everything that had happened, but he didn't want to do one timeline. I guess he was like, this is everything before. This is just not bullshit. Yeah, that's the Old. Testament, kind of like that. Two people are like everything. Before Jesus was kind of out the window. You ever heard someone say that? Like, what do you mean? As in, so it was. Like people who talk about the Bible, they're like, the Old Testament is kind of hard to read because it's like, not. As, oh, I see like like a Christian saying that. Yeah, yeah, I see you're saying. But like when Jesus enters in the New Testament, all of that is like super fire. but it's hard to take. That's where it really starts. Yeah. It's funny, just that same sentiment that we just had of like, or that that guy had. Yeah, all of that is bullshit. Everything before Jesus was born. Just forget about it. Negative is baby, negative is baby on the up and up from here? Baby like what? And we just listen to this fucking guy, baby. He was the. Only one that can make it count. Was this fucking cock sucking? What are you gonna say? You will go down to the. Is it? You see, a single continuous timeline for all of the history. Have all of history would require choosing a starting point that might be arbitrary or culturally specific. how about, like, the earliest we know about. And we all just agreed with that. What about the other religions? That's like. Yeah. Yeah, I. Agree. When he was born, that's when that started. That is our zero. Is there any country that doesn't like agree that we're in 2024 right now? Like, you know like they just call us on the different it. Says this dual system has been adopted by many other cultures due to the widespread influence of the Gregorian calendar. Who's Gregory at my next question, why was the Gregorian calendar so and so influential? Yeah. Why did it. Get so widely adopted? I mean, one thing is I hating on it. I mean, I think he's right. I think he's bad on the money. I think it's crazy that that's like the reality that we live in or that's like that or that's just put that in an influencing characteristic into the. How we literally. Live, how we literally frame our entire existence. Everyone, whether you fucking believe it or not, bitch. Like it's fucking happening. Sorry. Unless you don't believe we're in 2024, you can call the year whatever you want. Wow, dude. So here's what it says. So the Gregorian refers Gregory as Pope Gregory the 13th. I fucking do it in 1582, he. First of all, it was right. I guess they were losing about 11 minutes per year. And then by giving us a leap year, he fixed the inaccuracy of the calendar. Like this year wouldn't be last year or like 20 years ago. This time the seasons. Would be all fucked. Up. Yeah. So they got that right. And then all of the Catholic churches adopted it. They were like, all right, this is our calendar now. And then once all the Catholic people had adopted it, then the colonials in Europe who controlled the larger parts of the world and had people working jobs that required calendars, they just made the shift with the Catholics. And so when the Catholics and the people that controlled the jobs in Europe combined on that, it says that everyone else was basically had to adopt it to. What the fuck? And I guess, this is for science and economic needs. So like when they're making trades with people and trying to get boats to places and they have to like, communicate with each other and coordinate, they needed like, the days to be the exact same. They couldn't be like, wait, which calendar are you using? Exactly? Like Lower Catholic using this. And the European people are like, oh my God, fine. Like that was the day. That was the day. No it's not. And then the Catholics weren't budget fucking idiots. You live in a false reality, you stupid bitch. No reality. Fine. And I just want to leave. Yeah, the 29th. Why not? Fuck it. Like in February? We can have 32 on any of them. Be fucking weird, right? We'll give it to February. February? Short ass. Fuck it. Yeah, but is February and run short one of the little fucking dumb ass? Maybe 30 strange. People just wanted 31 on some. Some months it was like their birthday. Like if you were hard as fuck, they gave you a 31. Okay. One more. One more day of celebration. Yeah, yeah, that's royalty baby. Let's go. Though I don't know who fucking my name day. It's so. It's also fucking arbitrary, bro. And who I don't know. But church is a lot of culture. That's what I was going to reference to when I say, like the Pope, he was just like, this is what we're doing now, bro. This is what's how. This is how we live. And then the church sets up a lot of infrastructure, literally, like, it's like, how do people know how to read? It's like, well, the church had books because they kept information. The guy could create a calendar because he had, I mean, like the fucking Vatican is filled with all of the oldest documents of all time, you know, so they they have the most, like, foundational structural. Access information, the libraries. Right. And I feel like when we were all savages and trying to like, come together and stuff like that, the church had like missions and trying to teach people how to talk. I wonder what books are in the fucking hidden libraries in the Vatican. God knows. And that's it. I think they've got some shit that would fucking blow anybody's mind. I want to go, like, how do I get access? Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan. Joe, did you see the Secret Library? You got it. You had to see this in your library, Joe. Come on. What are they going to. Show it to? Not you, not Joe. Fuck, yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Get in there. They might have. Aliens in there. Like books on aliens. Like for real. The aliens wrote or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Who fucking knows? Who knows who fucking those? Oh, but I guess another thing that happened is the calendar. Oh, no. Never mind where it's said that. What the. For the way the other pope had it set up, there was just inaccuracies. And I thought that meant he was lying about times of periods of time, but it was just that they were losing 11 minutes a year. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Just the, the not leap year. I think that fixes it. I'm pretty sure. What I've heard what's. His name talk about that. Neil deGrasse Tyson. It fixes. It. But either way it's all just so fucking arbitrary and weird. Yeah, we need some kind of organization. Well, we all just agreed as a as a entire species of human beings that live on different continents, we all that's agreed to be like, yeah, the calendar where Jesus is like this, the starting point. Well, we'll take that one. That sounds right. We also agreed to that. And it's where we're living, you know. It's like, what the fuck? That's strange. I think Louis C.K. has a bit about that. He's like Christianity, like kind of fucking one. Like like the religious debate. Like they start like time on zero, like with your religion. It's like, what the fuck else do you like? Well, we all like, we're all in this bitch. Like what? I don't even know is his joke about it, but that's the premise. Maybe that's God. Tell me why the Bible's been the bestselling book forever. You know what I'm saying? How does it exist? There's so much time. Because like other, I don't know, the Mesopotamian religious texts, you know what I'm saying? like, I think that that's, like, phenomenal. And there's some things that like, you can't I can't explain to you, you know what I'm saying? And it feels like there's. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy as fuck. It's also super crazy because I just like I don't know, there's a lot of craziness about it. And I think one of the crazy aspects is that there's so many interpretations and so many translations and so many texts, and even like older texts like, the body of a Gita or whatever, Joe Rogan and, what's his name? Yeah. No one guy talks about and the Dead Sea Scrolls. And that kind of shit. The ancient, ancient shit. Either way, I think there's this. It's it's also crazy. It's also fucking crazy. No one knows this happening for real. Same way no one knows what happens after life. No one can tell you what's happening in this life. Personal belief system. Like it's God's world, right? Like he built it. and I think that, like, we don't know about the Dead Sea Scrolls, per se, because it's like, irrelevant to the influencer we're supposed to have. Like, this faith based journey is supposed to be, like, perfectly ambiguous to where it's like. You need faith to get through it. Like, yeah, there is no certain answer. Exactly. You to derive your own certainty. Yes. Through your own internal guidance system and your own feeling process. Yeah, yeah. That's what's going on. And I think that, that it's that thing is perfectly tailored to perfect ambiguity through God's creation. That's like his threshold for that. And then with that being said, it does make sense to me that God could have influenced culture perfectly to. Yeah. Why was the church so, so influential early on? It's like for whatever Holy Spirit, whatever movement, whatever influence, you know, had God's people like outpouring like knowledge and shelter and food and trying to go to these other cultures to bring them into Christianity and stuff like that. And enough of that was like enough structure that like, it generally was what gave us like reading and language and stuff like that. So I think that that's like God working in our world, like creating the pathway for us to ultimately be saved by him when he comes back. And it makes sense to me that Jesus might be the starting point for our calendar because like, like you said, like that, that sentiment that like we one are like Christians. One the. The. The branding that all our time starts with them. Yeah. It's like I'm not saying that. I mean, that's tough conversation to have with somebody. Like it's clearly our religion. Like we're duh, we're obviously the boss, right? It's like. You can't really have that argument with anybody. But like, of course. And I don't, you know. But anyways, that's my take on it is like, that's easy. Easy for me to digest through my own. Perception of life. Somebody who was like from the Middle East might be like not make much sense to them and they might have a super valid argument. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's another. So yeah, crazy are part of the aspect that makes us so crazy. Just like that. People who yeah, just follow all the other different religions. Just like I agree with that. Calendar's like fucking move it, that shit. And just like, all right, this is this is what we're going to do now. This is how we go. This is how we frame our existence. I think it's probably that influential, to be honest. Rage. Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah. That was 1500 years later. So wild, I don't even. Oh, yeah, it's it's also crazy. It's so crazy. Because the people who are living before Jesus was born, they didn't know he was going to come, per se, so they didn't know that their time was going to be this was ripped from them. So whatever year they think they're living in. No. Sorry, brother. Let's say they have it in the way you think it is. Like when did they start like recording years at all. Like, this is year. One one like then the. We made it around another time, we're like two. We did it again the same day. Again. One year later. We finally went around a couple times before we realized that's what the fuck's that happening? Yeah, well, that time there were kings and shit, though, you know, by the time Jesus was, was born. So yeah, like, but then there's people living in Egypt and like the Old Testament 10,000 years ago, there's like a pharaoh and shit like that. Yeah. So they probably had some kind of year counting system. Yeah, yeah. Just doesn't fucking matter to us. I just don't give a fuck. I don't give. It's all really. Thought you were like, it's dunzo, bro. Yeah, like it's dunzo then guys. So. Yeah. So weird. So crazy. Because it's a, it's a real mindfuck to find stuff buried underground that's 4000 years old where, like, I didn't think you went back that far. What the fuck do you mean? Carbon dated it 4000 years ago. Carbon. Carbon? Yeah. Seriously. Carbon San Diego. Yeah, I don't I don't do that stuff. Somebody. I do know how to make a joke out of it. but yeah. Bro, like, I think that was kind of like, thank God we've got this BC stuff we can lean on because we didn't even know it went back. That far when we started counting, right? Yeah. What the fuck? Like the dinosaurs? What, were they here? Oh, good God, good God almighty. Millions of years ago. I want to talk about one more thing before. Well. Oh, did you see the. The thing we were going to go do? Might have just got done already. No. You didn't see it. Yeah. I saw an email. Oh, yeah. Cool. We did this. So we might have a little bit more time. Right. Cool. Yeah, we're getting there. Check that out. Dude, this is a what's your guess? How how long ago the dinosaurs were here? Yeah. One, one. Okay. Hold on. You have to. Take my reaction out of. Your hold on. This. I think the universe is a recorded to be 3.8 billion years or something. Shit. Old. They weren't around that long ago. How long are you on the money? You're good. I would say 150 million years ago. Did. You're pretty far. That's pretty. That's really close compared to where I would have landed the ball. the earliest period is 252 to 201 million years ago. Over 200. Million years ago. And you said 100. What the fuck? What the fuck is that I got? I know we know a carbon dating. Yeah. Carbon dated. It took a second base. is it the fuck. That is so. I can't even think about that. We can't even think about that. But it's so long ago, it seems like a lie. Christ wasn't even a thought of a thought. Neither was any of the fucking. Or was he? I guess, I guess, right. Was there a messianic dinosaur that sacrificed himself and the meteor and reset life? I don't know. I don't know if I, you know, to make it that. Jesus. That's a hell. Of a. Huge dinosaur 250 million years ago. That is a long time. That's so long ago. Yeah, yeah, I know there. Were no people. It was just dinosaurs. What the fuck? What the. There's all dinosaurs and plants and bugs or what? Yeah. Flowers. Who was around? No, people. When did we. When a. People become. I wanted monkeys become people different than monkeys become ever. I guess after the fucking meteor. Right? Or after the extinction? When are the earliest signs of. Human evolution. Like primates fucking. What are we? Homo sapiens. Homo sapiens? I guess even just monkeys. Well, what the fuck? So the dinosaurs existed? Yeah, they existed 200 plus million years ago. Meteor hits. All the dinosaurs had done. Goodbye. Thanks for playing. We restart. So in that restarting, we get to the monkeys. Yes we do. You're on the. Money. Okay, There's a payload, an epoch, which I guess represents some kind of season of time. Okay. It's around 65 million years ago. Surely after the extinction of dinosaurs relative to 3.8 billion years of world life. The earliest known primate like manuals are the, let's say, placé dapper forms which appear around this time. True primates or primates of modern aspect are believed to have emerged during the Eocene epoch, around 55 million years ago. The fossil record of these early primate shows adaptations for tree dwelling and an arboreal lifestyle, such as grasping hands and feet and binocular vision. So yeah, 200 million years ago. Dinosaurs. Meteor hits. Boom. We're, 50 million years. So 150 million years of time passes with dinosaurs. Oh, I get asked when the dinosaurs passed away. Okay, yeah, but. I have to log in to ChatGPT because I didn't. Realize I wasn't logging. And this and the monkeys come. We just come from evolution. This is what's going on here. Right? Like that's that's what happened. Allegedly. Yes. Yes, allegedly. Your honor. Man, it wanted me to pay for it because it's trying to separate my Gmail from my Apple account, and I'm like, nah, no, I've already remembered that. Chunky chip for the double dip dig? I ain't getting double dip done. I need to log out. Yes, sir. Continue with Google. Yes, sir. Continue. That's fucked up chat. You just gotta know. How to work system, you know what I'm saying? You gotta know how to dance. Yeah. Can't hammer your hand and be mad at the hammer. Ma'am. Amen, brother. Even though I throw that fucking hammer. I had to hammer. Believe me, I'm throwing that some bitch. Oh, actually. Hard. Some of my favorite childhood memories are, like, working in the garage with my dad or whatever. Holding the flashlight on the car. Yeah. But it was funny how many tools. I didn't know where the road tools. These bring back. Like the wrong tool. What the tape. Measure? No, I need I want to do that one. Okay. When did dinosaurs become extinct? So they were here around 200 plus million years ago. Oh, wow. 66 million years ago. Damn. So they're around, like 200 plus years ago till, like 66, they were around. For 100 plus million years. I had a run, bro. They had a fucking run. More of a run than. We can imagine. We know for a couple hundred. That's fucked up. That's fucked up. It was fucking. It was just dinosaur land, bro. For 100 million plus years. You gotta be fucking kidding. I got to confirm that. That seems ridiculous. Hold on. Dinosaurs lived on Earth for about 165 million years. What are we talking about? What are we talking about? I think right now that is so long. We've been around for a while. We live for 80. We live for 80 at a time. We've been here for a thousand. A couple thousand. 6000. It was the earliest human dinosaur recorded 6000 years ago. For nothing. The son of a son. That's such nothing. 6000 in. Relative to 160 million. Brother. What the hell? The dinosaurs must have fucked up pretty. Pretty epically. They must have fucked up pretty bad. They were never going to fuck up. How to send a meteor atom. Yeah, well, there was on this planet there were dinosaurs. But for 100 plus million years, this is their planet. What the fuck are we doing here? That's probably what all the dinosaurs think. Yeah, there it is. Fucking humans. Maybe we were the dinosaurs. Maybe we still have like that, I don't know. And what was the meeting them? The same animating force that animates a fucking dog or a shark was a corruption. That. Yeah, the dinosaurs in the dynasties. The dinosaurs. This these is not solid. I don't know what have any literature. I can't even that's so fucking weird. I never would have guessed that would be that fucking long. Okay, that's a long time. I know I'm going to sound like Matthew here, but thinking about that brings a lot of, like the Christian, right? Like the idea that God created people and it's going to come back to save them and take them to heaven that we're talking about a 6000 year span set that up and we're living within that 6000 year span. And some people would be like the idea of a. Loop, what's the big bang? The word Jesus is going to come back and like, take people to heaven, but some people are still going to be here on earth. Oh, yeah. how it's going to play out. Yeah. Then two days, whenever the second the rapture. There it is. There it is. Not the Toronto. Raptors, not the Raptors. So Jesus is a raptor. Oh my God. Very hard. Come on dude I'll make the final say pretty crazy. Oh what the fuck's going on. This is crazy. This is a raptor going. In like. The rapture. Though. Like you said I'm not making fun of God. I think that'd be really cool. Never. Raptor spectacles. Dinosaurs. There's a T-Rex. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yes. That doesn't seem so crazy to me, because it's like dinosaurs are like 150 million years ago. This idea that God created this society and then, like Jesus, was sacrificed for our sins so that we could, like, have a pathway to get to heaven. But ultimately, it's like the devil has this world and we're not we're not long for it. So he's going to come and like, take us back to the garden that we fell from. I don't know why exactly. You can't pinpoint a why this makes more sense to me, knowing that we're on such a smaller timescale. It's not. People haven't been waiting for 200 million years for that to happen. People are waiting two hours long enough for you to forget. And even then, even then it's like we've only got like the, the BC or whatever, like the ad whenever that started. It's only been like the last 2000 years. Yeah. That's it. Since those promises were made same. And when you think about dinosaurs, we're on this planet for 150 million years. The perspective of that, like 2000 goes into 150 million. Like a lot of times. A whole bunch. So many times a whole bunch of fucking times. And what I was. Just thinking about. Where those dinosaurs come from, you know. Should. Right? Yeah. God made the dinosaurs. Where would they come from? They had to come from something. I guess. the answer to evolution. Yeah. Like frogs, tadpoles. Alligators. And chickens and fucking pterodactyls and or. Fuck. What? Like, what the fuck are we talking about here? Like, how do we not. Have dinosaurs now, then? Or, like, what the fuck? Where did. The dinosaurs? I think the closest thing, the closest thing that we have now to dinosaurs is a fucking bird. I'm pretty sure birds. Dinosaurs evolved from a group of reptiles known as Arkansas's, which first appeared during the Late Triassic period, around 230 million years ago. What came before them? Where I won't go down the rabbit hole, baby years. What was the first the first. Recorded life form ever. On Earth? We haven't even discovered it. Or who knows? Prior to that. That time period. Ran fucking weird, right? For me, bro. Go on. Which, because I'm just trying to think where those dinosaurs came from. They came from something. So it had to evolve into that. The same way that after the fucking meteor hit, we evolved into all of this bullshit. It's like, what happened? What was their originating bullshit? You know what I'm saying? bacteria. Amoeba. That's the I learned that in biology. but this one says multicellular life began to appear around 600 million years ago. This is one. Guy. First getting some kind of something moving around. Okay? Something's happening. It's happening. I said creatures. So. So this period saw an emergence of a diverse array of soft bodied organisms. Following this, the Cambrian explosion around 541 million years ago. What did it look like? Was it just like a fucking. Like the planet, the way we have the planet now? There's no people on it. That's just the way it was. And these fucking things sort just. We did, we did, we did, we did. Yeah. I'm a dinosaur now. It says that, the first groups of animals were earth, arthropods, mollusks and vertebrates. Okay. And I guess I think that's like. Oh, I'm gonna have to ask you, but please, like my vertebrae, like a spinal cord. It sounds like what it's saying is that there were fish, birds and things that had a spine. Okay, okay, I'm with it. And then that makes sense. By the time the first dinosaurs appeared, the Earth had already seen a lot of ecosystems and numerous lifeforms, including early reptiles, amphibians and fish. So what I'm gathering there is these something in the water. The waters were fucking started. Yes, waters where it all started. It always waters where it always starts. They're coming out of the. They're tadpoles. Even the fox. What's under the ocean? What's under the ocean? Are all life forms coming. From the oceans aside from the water? Yes. All known lifeforms on Earth have to originate in the oceans. Many microorganisms over billion, billions of years. Multicellular cellular organisms developed. That's why water represents like the chaos. You know, I'm saying the the the the. Thing that out of which it comes, Chaotic creative force that's deep. Now that you're talking about. It like that, that's crazy. That's bananas. That's bananas. Sandwich all extra peanut butter. Algae started to happen like 500 million years ago. And that was like the first plants. But that's what I'm saying. Like, isn't algae water related? It's like water going from becoming adaptable to land. Water bacteria water beer. yes. But then why didn't we why don't they. Why didn't the humans exist in the same evolutionary pool that the dinosaurs came into? You know what I'm saying? If they're around for so fucking long, we've only been around for a couple thousand years. How did we not overlap with the dinosaurs? Was there a period. Where we overlapped with the dinosaurs? Like with other cavemen that had a fucking deal with that shit? Was a flint. Like with like, The Flintstones? That says that we don't exist with humans. It now exists at the same time as the dinosaurs. We never existed. We ever overlapped. No. The first modern humans, Homo sapiens, appeared much later, approximately 300,000 years ago. Whereas I guess we're talking about fucking 500 million years ago. Yeah, 500 million years ago. That evolutionary chain leads to dinosaurs with no humans. And then this evolutionary chain leads to humans. We no dinosaurs. You know, I'm saying I think a chicken's as close as we got. Alligators look pretty fucking weird. No. It's weird. Is it? The dinosaurs came from. It's like nature duked it out, and then the dinosaurs just became the dominant fuckin thing of life. They were. Yeah, right. The hierarchy. Right? Everything, much like we are. Now, or they're lions and other shit like that too. Or at that time, like saber toothed tigers or whatever the fuck. Like mammoths, like wooly wooly mammoths and shit are. So I was like, the Ice Age. I don't even know what else existed because it wasn't only dinosaurs, right? The only dinosaurs. I was the only thing that existed from the fucking 500 million years ago. Algae, amoeba, and whatever the fuck else was going on. Yeah. I mean, it starts with single celled organisms. Yeah. Like, Prokaryotes, bacteria and archaea. But yeah, that's what you're talking about. Bunch of bacteria. Algae. The great acid. Okay. So this is that the as this algae starts to happen and does photosynthesis, then it starts releasing oxygen into Earth's atmosphere leading to the Great Oxidation Event around 2.4 billion years ago. And this event had a profound impact on the evolution of life, enabling the development of more complex, oxygen dependent organisms. So I guess it goes it kind of makes sense that these reptiles are really dominant because it seems like they're more like, from the ocean and maybe didn't need these complex oxygen requiring systems that humans would eventually need to have to have all of this shit going on. Okay. What, don't dinosaurs need oxygen to. The dinosaurs need as much oxygen as humans need. Okay, so vertebrates refers to things that need oxygen to survive. Okay. Learn something new every day. I said Earth's atmosphere had varying low oxygen levels during the dinosaur time. The study suggests that oxygen levels were lower than today's levels during the Triassic period and higher during the Jurassic, so. But shows that they might have even had better respiratory systems than modern humans. Actually, they may have had adaptations like air sacs that allowed them to, extract oxygen more effectively even from air with lower oxygen content. But I'm sure if we needed that, God would have just gave us those. The fucking sick. Yeah. It's also. It's also strange. What the hell? This is so weird. Let's think about the big. The one of the bigger questions we could ask is like, what? What inspired humans to happen? Yeah, because we have. Yeah, literature and narrative. And we can create history and dinosaurs just like, you know. Killing each other, going on a run a. Fucking hundred million, over 100 million year run. Yeah. What the hell is killing me? If you were a T-Rex, if you came from a line of. I guess I had to reproduce, right? That's if I got, like, the handsy. That's crazy. Maybe that's representative of the snake somehow. Yeah. Like the reptile. The snake. It's. It's inherently there. Inherently. It makes a run. It's it makes a bigger run than we ever will. That's a long fucking time. 150 million years. Snakes were here. Wait, before we were or whatever the fuck. Reptiles. Maybe that's just like God created the universe. It's like, that's just. That was Tycoon Planet. That was the. You. Made a universe. And then I think Earth was chosen kind of specifically to inhabit our. Our particular brand. Yeah. Our thing we got going on here. So he's like, I'm a sinner. Or the whole time a meteor was coming for them the whole time, you know, space is like moving and shit. The whole time a meteor was coming. Nothing they could have done right. Like we shouldn't be. Shitting so. Much. We shouldn't be farting. The atmosphere. The medias think about the children. No, there's nothing they could have done unless it was coming. Yeah, their days were numbered. Yeah, I think that's why. Designed to, like, create what would be ultimately create humans. You know what I'm saying? Humans don't really exist anywhere else that we know. If it takes, it takes the exact right amount of dinosaurs for the exact right amount of time alive to be there for as long as it was. Get hit with a meteor or restart off of an update because it's got to do a whole freezing and warming in another billion, however many years. Yeah, however long it takes a fucking. I think it was 60 million. Yeah, over 60 million years ago. Right. Okay. So then 60 million years. Because that creates the perfect conditions to create what would become a Homo sapiens. Whereas there wasn't a Homo sapiens created in 150 million years prior. Nope. Wasn't possible. Like science. It wasn't ready. It. Like what? Why not? Like what? Isn't that weird? Fucking me? I figured out the next question. Okay? What changed? And yeah, there we go. Earth's conditions that allowed humans. That allowed? Yeah. To be. Okay, the humans rise to be. During the dinosaur time dinosaur eras. There wasn't a line of Homo sapiens. You know, we're all specific. Don't fuck. With me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to be able to craft your words carefully with strategy. And make sure to make sure you get the right result. Says several major changes in Earth's conditions and events and biological evolution set the stage for the emergence of humans and other modern species long after the dinosaur era. So the mass extinction event at 66 million years ago. Massive asteroid impact. It's cool whenever we're talking. And then I do chatty routine. It's just like, yeah, you know, you're talking about. Let's go, baby. It just altered Earth's ecosystems. That's point number one. Point number two, this is after the extinction of dinosaurs. Mammals had existed alongside dinosaurs in relatively small, less dominant forms began to diversify and occupy various ecological roles. The specification was crucial for the eventual emergence of primates and later humans. Climate changes and shifts in habitat. Over millions of years, Earth's climate and geography underwent significant changes, including the cooling and drying of the planet and the formation of diverse habitats such as grasslands and savannas. This environmental change influenced the evolution and spread of species, including the ancestors of humans and the evolution of primates. Primates are characterized by traits forward facing eyes, flexible limbs, and a large brain relative to body size. Evolutionary split between the ancestors of our humans and our closest living relatives. The chimpanzees occurred 6 or 7 million years ago. Year. The development of by Pietism, which is we can walk and. Okay, but why didn't you. What? Okay, okay. What what I'm reading is that with no dinosaurs, they're. Mammals, which were there when dinosaurs were there, but just smaller and couldn't flourish than dinosaurs. Take them away, mammals start to populate. And all the things that dinosaurs had to do, the mammals have to do. And now they're getting specific roles. More like beavers making a dam. This guy's doing this thing. And then through that process, we're able to get like monkeys, which evolved into like chimpanzees, which evolved into, like, early Homo sapiens. Right? Yeah. Why couldn't the dinosaurs come back if all the other animals would come back? Yeah. Right. Because they would just dominate again and then keep humans in their place. Why couldn't. Dinosaurs. Come back. After the. Mass extinction. Right? Yeah. Because if it was just going to play out how it played out again, I don't understand exactly. The conditions were just right to produce what needed to be produced and then not the dinosaurs. Again. This is drastic environmental changes. Simply that it included a nuclear winter. Well, drastic temperature drops block sunlight and acid rain. And then it said maybe there were some types of early dinosaurs coming back, but there were fewer niches for large dinosaurs, and so they didn't. Know. What was what. They couldn't get jobs. They had no niche. They had no social media presence. They were they were never going to make it. Like what? Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. Like in my mind a little bit. Yeah. This biological limitations. Dinosaurs were highly diverse, but many of the large non-avian species were particularly vulnerable to changes in the environment to their size, metabolism, specific ecological roles. After the extinction, smaller, more adaptable animals had a better chance of surviving and evolving film their niches. And then mammals started going off, raising mammals, right? What the hell, man? It's just a little fishy. It is fishy, right? It is fishy as fuck if. It all starts from the same source which is the ocean both times I guess the I guess the the primary difference is of the out economic. Not the economic climate. Just the fucking the the climate. Yeah, the the the weather, the the conditions of the earth itself were that drastically different to where they just never came back. They never came back. What one thing that I'm reading is it seems like the dinosaurs got fucking huge. They got locked up. I don't know why. Yeah, I. Mean, I guess if you have perfect food for 150. Million inches. Like a fucking elephant just keeps on going. It just keeps on growing and growing. It growing like t-rexes. How big were they supposed to be? Hypothetically? Like, I have a picture in my head about. How fucking huge. Yeah, I can't even guess. Let's say, how tall is an elephant? Like ten feet, maybe roughly. So let's say, I don't know, I'm visualizing a T-Rex standing next to an elephant when he visualize a T-Rex next to an elephant. How big is that T-Rex compared to that elephant? I think it's at least like 4 or 5 elephants. I at least could be more because I've seen some movies. Yeah, I was going to say like. like in the movie talking that Kobe Hollywood from Shaq. Standing next to Allen Iverson. Okay, so over double. Yeah. Over double 25 I had to think about it. 20ft, 20ft tall. I get you some numbers. How big do you think an elephant is? How many feet like ten. 13ft. 10 to 13. Okay. On the money you're lowballing. Yeah. Nice. and then how tall do you think the average t-rex's? I would say like 40 to 50. Dude, you're so cash. Yeah, you're so Scottish, bro. That's 40ft, dude. Whoa. Oh, I'm so sorry. It says not. Cash. The length of their from their tail to their face would be like 40ft. Oh, tell us now. 40ft, but. Roughly 12 to 20ft tall at the hips. But the hips. You're not counting the legs. Like he's talking about. To the from the leg to the hip or from the hip to the dome. Well, why don't you give me the whole spread. Just tilted 20ft tall at the hips. What does that even mean? I guess maybe from, like, the hip, because some of them were like, what are the t-rexes? They're all fucking. Yeah, all stand up. Their head was five feet long. Brother. That's a car. How tall is a T-Rex standing up? I thought I said 40ft and I was like, fucking sick. 10 to 12ft to the hips. The total high, including the head, could be even greater depending on its posture. Okay. Says that they were they weren't fully erect like humans. They stood more in like a horizontal position. Yeah, they sound more crouch. So I'm looking if I'm thinking about T-Rex, they definitely are more like a seven. Yeah. Yeah. But they're saying like so if you account for like how tall that thing is, I guess I'm saying like most, it's like 20ft tall. Okay. It's not pretty fucking tall. Yeah. It's about 12ft is like where it's like from the ground. It's a whole elephant high. And then it just fucking. That's hard for me to visualize this. What ten feet is like to a basketball room? Yes. That's how tall an elephant would be to you. I didn't think about that. That's really tall to me. That's big. Yeah. It's huge. It's a big fucking thing. It's a big fucking thing. Two of those thing. Two basketball rooms. You're looking at a fucking monster. That wants to eat you. With a head the size of your car. Fuck around. That's scary as fuck. Yeah, that's. Scary as fuck. How do they even flourish? How do they even become that? That is just what we. Don't see that much. Why is that so strange? What's the biggest animal that ever existed? How do they not? thank goodness they didn't come back. They would have dominated. That's what. That's what I'm saying. Well, yeah. So why didn't they come back? But then part of it is because they were so big that when Earth was resetting itself, there wasn't like food scarcity and. Know there was no little things to eat or little things relative to them. Right. But I guess, wouldn't they just develop, oh, I don't know. Eat everything else around. Them. Yeah. it doesn't make sense. So it still. Doesn't quite check out like when the first t-rexes were ever born, ever, you know, or whatever came into being, like, there were just just so happened to be enough perfect conditions for them to grow into these giant fucking. Machines, these beasts. But the second time around couldn't happen. What? What why not what? The conditions, the climate conditions, which that that fucked up. I guess that's the only explanation. Only explanation? That's it. Perfect conditions to create humans. Yep. Perfect. Perfect. And then that the dinosaurs were on their run. Humans never came. Up because we were. They would have been in crash on the way. Could never have, never flourished. Godzilla would have been life back then. Just killing. Everybody. No monkeys. Dude. One of the biggest eyesores is the Argentino saurus, estimated to be 100. Feet long. Weighing 70 to 100 tons. Get out of here. Let's get the fuck at it. That's fucking crazy. That is. That is atrocious. there's another dinosaur that was 100ft tall, but the Patagonia, one. Hundred feet tall. Oh, that's above the long neck. Oh, yeah, it could be. It doesn't. It doesn't describe it that way, but. Oh, no, that's a super saurus number 505ft tall. Super long necks like a fucking giraffe. Yeah. Get that like. Get that aspect, dude. There's a Shasta saurus. It's a marine reptile about 69ft in length. Fuck that dude. That's like a basketball court. Fuck that. You're ready into that thing, dude. Oh holy God above. So there's been some huge things from time to time. Huge. But we got whales and shit now. Like the ocean. Oh, that's all right. That's the ocean in a different game. That's a different that's a different world. But we can't dominate down there. we have no right down there. We have nowhere. Foreigners. If we could, we would dominate that game, too. Yeah, we we're just foreigners in a strange land down there, baby. We ain't got no right down there. We get fucking crushed by the pressure. Literally. So how does it make sense that you're a human? But you weren't a fucking dolphin very naturally. Oh, like. Ecologically, are we just super lucky that we're, born into a human? And I don't have to be a fucking dolphin because they're, like, smart, but dumb. Yeah, that's a question I have. Or it's like a thing I stumble into sometimes from time to time. Just like looking at anything that's existing, like animals particularly. It's like they just got that they're just in there. Like same way I'm centralized, localized right here in my head. It feels. Like that. It's like they're just. I'm assuming to some degree and not the same exact thing I got going on. But they have something going on like what I have going on. They animate a fucking thing. Yeah, they have like control of their body and like, they have. Emotions bad. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They they could die. They bleed, they eat, they got poop. They have babies. So that's all. I don't think that is. Yeah. Yeah I know what's going on with that. It's like this little fucking. This these ants or this dog or these fish. They're all just living in their fucking thing. But what do we what are we saying to that? Like, you were just like, is it lucky that we're born into being the human version? Yeah. Or being this species. Like. If you're just a dinosaur, your time was just over and up. We're living in today in the now rockin rock. That's crazy. Talking about all these fucking years of all these fucking animals that ever existed, ever. And you're. And now we're is here. Rocky. Yeah. You're the top of the food chain. Is this. We have tools. We have technology. Yeah. Crazy, crazy crazy shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, man. It's a lot to wrap your head around. It's a lot. I lose myself in the time. Lose myself. I think I had it, I was right, I think we had a fucking threat. Oh, that was a presupposition. To create a perfect ecological storm so that humans could exist in the story in which that we're existing in right now. Like the fact that we're alive right now is really nuts because bonkers. And we also might, like bonkers. Yeah, dude. We we've been around for such a small time. Such a small time. Nothing. Nothing? Nothing in the grand scheme of things, absolutely nothing. It makes sense. The notion of it now just seems weird to me now that we've talked about time so much. I'm. In the now. I'm about to turn 30 in the now. Guess it happened. And today I got gotta eat. All those other days that happened. So many days have happened. Like, my goodness, the days just keep happening. You can get lost in that storm. You lose yourself. Sure. You you wanna touch on the tangible with me before we get off? Yeah. Yeah. Man. Okay, just real quick. I think it'd be great for us to talk about. There's basically two conspiracy theories. Yes. Open your mind. Your mind and minds are pretty open right now. I'm open minded. There's basically two conspiracy theories surrounding the Donald Trump attempted assassination. Okay? One being that this guy, they tried to JFK, Donald Trump. The other try to hit him. Yes. The other the other being this is a false flag by the Donald Trump camp to ensure victory in the polls. Yep. It's a master plot to take the country by storm, put the brand at an all time high. All time high, or. They try to JFK. But to say. That. This guy got into the rooftop, shot 5 or 6 times before we took them out and it was just, like a virus in a computer. It was just like the flu in the winter. We just he just he just got in there and did some damage and we kind of stopped. It just can't do anything about it. That's fucking great that that's that that's a conspiracy theory. I think. Okay. We got this. Continue. What, which one have you heard more about? I don't know if I really hurt you too much about either one. Honestly, just talking with people that work and stuff. Never really seen too much on social media, but it was definitely my initial first thought. Whenever that was, like breaking news that that had happened. That was my first reaction was like, maybe he was behind that. Maybe he orchestrated that himself. No reason to think that. No reason. I'm just a skeptical person. I take things to the opposite and see how it looks just like, go back this way and see how it looks. You know what I'm saying? That's how I battled my ideas to see if they're fucking real. You know, you're saying worth holding. Beautiful. Dawn Pearson taught me that shit. So thinking is, you know, I'm saying. So it's like I'm thinking, how are they trying to like, this is the narrative that's happening here. Who benefits? Why would they do this? What's going on? Who is what's the intention, motivation, whatever. You know all that stuff. Detective work, bro. For real? Yeah. Fucking narrative. Detective work. It's important to know what's happening at least a little bit of what's happening in your surrounding social circles or, like, fucking community. We gotta take care of fucking day to day shit. We're all just people, you know what I'm saying? Just fucking gotta go to work. I go. To work. It's like, oh my God. The former president was almost assassinated. I'm like, in taking an order. Like, fuck yeah. It's like I'm so far detached from it, at least in that regard. You know, I'm saying definitely a lot of people are probably kind of watching it. So I'm like, what's going on with this narrative? What's the. What's the what's the what's the truth here, what's going. On. But yeah, that was definitely a initial initial time I was met with was like, yeah, maybe he did that. Maybe that's planned and scripted, maybe it was. And then also the second thought was the exact opposite or the same situation on the other side. It's like maybe they they. Planned. This was another plan to thing, but just they just missed that. It's fucking failed. Yeah. And then I guess option C is that this is like neither of their doings. And this is completely someone acting as a lone vigilante type thing. It's supposed to be option A. That's the narrative. Okay. Sorry. I'm with. You. I'm with you. That's how this guy, bro. No, I never seen you. Just look at him and you're just like. There's no way this is the guy that assassinated. He's a shooter. He does not look like a shooter. He looks like a very nerdy, skinny white dude and his 20 years old. okay. And apparently, that's exactly what he was. from all the research. No idea. I don't know enough to speak on it with confidence. Confidence. But. Whoa, a little fucking weird. It's a little weird, bro. It's a little. Weird, bro. Yeah. What have you been? Have you seen anything on socials or any, like, evidence or news or anything? Any stories developing? Either way, I can't. Well, that like true news, true news is a funny statement in America. But like fake news, fake news. A lot of it is fake news live in a fucking weird climate. But on CNN and in fact, one thing that they are reporting is that they they can't get into this kid's phone. I think I heard. That. Yeah. No, we can't get in there. Get our best people on it. Can't get. It. Do you mean it's 2024? The fuck do you mean? You can't get to this kid? So it's like, that's one of the boldest we have. I mean, the fuck do you mean? You can't get into this kid's fucking. Yeah. What are you talking about, bro? How does this kid have something. No. Even if he does have something like blocking it or whatever. Yeah I'm sure you can put some fucking supercomputers. On it and hack it. Yeah. It might take a couple weeks, might take a year, whatever. But they don't think you can fucking do it. There's like nothing that's impenetrable. Come on now, all you can do is. Yeah, I think all you could do is really make it just infinitely hard. Yeah, but you could do it eventually. Crack any, any, any bullshit based on, like, Mr. Robot and shit that I've seen. Yeah, right. I'm basically a lot of the stuff Mr. Robot. Me too. But but regardless, it's still. This is make sense? Come on. Another thing that's definitely being reported is this guy made it through security with his backpack that is getting. And a ladder. And a fucking ladder. He means he had to go through the security. Yeah. What? What do you mean? Like, there was, like, some kind of checkpoint to, like, get into the rally. He wasn't able to get on to a building that was like, outside of the rally and his own, like, from the outside of the checkpoint, I guess. Well, just shut up before I start talking. Because if that's true, then that's. Then that's completely fucked. I don't think ChatGPT has access to current this. That the trail shooter. Have to go through security. I'm going to get flagged to my phones. Anything if like. For sure. You're not supposed to ask these questions. They're definitely listening. They're definitely watching some of our most loyal fans. ChatGPT might not know. If I said security. Well, I see headlines and security was on the local police. Yeah, it does say that he's on a local rooftop. My initial assumption is that the rooftop. Was outside of the dude. Okay, so which would make sense. But if it wasn't. Here, sure it is for you. Quote unquote. Is a. Secret service. Was notified by a Pennsylvania state police of a suspicious person

with a rangefinder on the ground at 5: 2:00:03

51 p.m. on Saturday, about 20 minutes before the shots fired. this guy, did not know this suspicious person had a gun. According to the police, there's a cell phone video that shows people pointing towards this guy with a rangefinder and trying to alert authorities of his presence. A full two minutes before he opened fire on the president. And, From that point, I guess he uses that ladder to climb up on top of the building, this ladder that he has with them. But this rangefinder that these sheriffs have seen him with, it's trying to show me that. He's walking around with a rangefinder and a ladder. Yeah. No fucking way. Yeah, no fucking way. This suspicious. Guy. Yeah, he's pretty fucking suspicious. Getting the. Ladder. No way. I think he has a store. The. I'm assuming he saw the ladder walking around with a rangefinder. Okay, that makes more sense. Okay. Way less suspicious. There's no way he's that fucking stupid. He still been alerted. As a suspicious person. Yes, but that's enough. That's. That should be enough, right? It's like, what the fuck are we doing? Was it. He was spotted at some point carrying the ladder with him. Yeah. That's just that's just preposterous. Climbs up on top of this building, lays down, puts his gun together. Apparently there are people looking on the rooftops of the buildings. They have, like a sniper team, because that sniper team proceeded to shoot him. After he shoots, the president shoots at him several times. So it's just a little wild. Oh, it's. Also wild, bro. I don't know what to make of any of it. Oh, I know, so we gotta keep on pushing. Keep on fucking moving. Keep working, keep praying. Praising. God, that's it. Give a fuck. We got music coming out. We got MJ, 38 shootings coming out. We got fucking MJ, 38 production things coming into play. Life is good, y'all. I don't know what you're doing, but keep doing it. Keep going. I'm pulling for you. He's gonna figure. We pulling fire. Climb up tonight. Like comment, subscribe, share all that shit. You're in on it. He's.