Episode #55

On this Episode of The MJ38 Show (Podcast):

Matthew and Justin talk about College, “Passion” by MJ38, and Mr. And Mrs. Smith

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You kids going to college? Good. It's like you're a. Credit card that could pick up the phone and sell some stock. Yeah, you know, it's just like gangster. Yeah. Jordan Belfort. So, so. Heavy for the first time today. Because I was thinking about business as being like client. A client, like landing a client is what's going to force the business. Yeah, that's how you live. That's how you. That's the. You. That's, Right. That's the thing. Yeah. How you generate revenue. And it was exciting. I was like, oh shit, oh, shit. That's fucking. Well then. 55 clients this afternoon, I speak to a group of people right. Now, I want to make 100 calls before. Noon, 100. Calls before noon. That's my quota. Some shit like that. But that's fine. That dude, I think. Is that doable? Where are we. Going to save us from? That's a lot of calls. Someone's doing that right now. Someone's like, someone's. Pushing for that shit for real. They find people are doing that. People are grinding out their small percentage of people, but they're fucking grinding out there like that. That's just with an end to that. That there's. Sacred percentage. It's hard to put yourself in a position to grind like that. like, yeah, maybe it's Wolf of Wall Street. I don't think it was a different movie, but it and stock broker exchange places in New York, that's a fucked up set of. New York Stock Exchange. Yes. And then you go to the people who are like, finance major stockbrokers, who are stockbrokers. you go to that office. It's like a hierarchy there. So, like, you get out of college and you're going to like, enter the hierarchy of all of these people that are trying to sell stock for this company. Doing this for so long. Right? Yeah. And then there's like one guy who's like, running the whole shit, and then there's like a top salesman. I a that's a crazy. And you'd have to get yourself through college to get yourself a position in that bottom of that hierarchy. And then maybe, you know, turn into this really rich, powerful person, I guess is the dream. They're selling like a whole bunch of money, kid. It's crazy how you gotta like. Making money with money is moving money around. Yeah. It's. How you doing? Yeah. What? It's all crazy. It's cool. That's America making money, baby. Come on. Making money with money. Yeah. You know how it goes. Money is how I make money. If you can make money with money, then you're like set. You're good. The banks, bro. They they can pay interest on the money. Borrow the money from the money. No problem. Giving you money for interest. If you can take the money for interest to make more money with that money. And a gamble. Place your bets. Everybody's happy dog. Yeah. It's like what are you going to do with it. What are you going to do with it. What are you gonna do with it. You have some sort of plan. Some sort of plan. But it's also kind of funny because we all we've mentioned before but yeah man, man makes plans and God laughs. But you need to have a plan. Yeah. You need to have something a loose structured plan. Get that shit and run with it. Yeah. Double it. Fill out what you're supposed to pay it back. It's just the opportunity, really. You know, I see the time. The time really the time. The time. And the focus and the attention, and the. Energy, the ability to. Yeah, convert and converge all my focus, attention and energy or something. Yeah. You know, we're far right. Hmhm. Like running gun everything. We're just like, pull up, do it, pull up, do it, do it like that is our entire life. What do you mean? Go to the restaurant. Like the gym. Pull up. What am I doing today? What did you last time? What we're doing right now. A-plus workout. Let's hit. It. Like do it. Restaurant. Same thing. Table like. What's going on here? Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. When we need you to do music, it's just like, pull up to the studio. What are we doing? This song. Do it. Well, just be knocking it out like everything. Is just like we kind of like, put this like what? What's next, what's next, what's next? And we just keep one foot in front of the other. This motherfucker. Yes. I don't, I don't. Know, I just keep it PG but. Yeah but then PG. But if you, if we were able to like tame that laser up and be like, like focus and like, I don't know, man, I just anytime I do that, it's always a successful end result. Yeah. We're spending a good 36, 32, 32 or 36 hours at work. You know what I'm saying? Every week, 30 plus, we show less than 40 or 30 plus. And it's like, damn, if we put all that into something else. It's also the formatting, like to format that with my life, I have to sacrifice all of this other time and energy and. Yeah. Routine, you know, but with a new deal, if you were to remove that as a constraint, you could create a new format. Which is fine. Off the rails flying off the safety. There's no there's no handlebars over here baby. Unicycle is this bitch. This is. This is meditating on the. Tricycle to a bicycle. It's a unicycle. It's like oh shit. We out here for real? It's a heavy balancing act, but if you do it well, it's the most beautiful thing in the world. What's the thing? We could do it depend on yourself. You been on something? You always been on something. That's one thing, because it's like you gotta. It's like my mom, for example, she was. She's in insurance and State Farm. But then, like her agent or whatever, however the hierarchy works, I'm pretty sure there's like State Farm and then you can make your own branch if you have the certain certifications to be the whatever agent you need to be, whatever levels search, you need to have, have an agency have people working for you. You get commission of what they bring in, and they get commission of what they bring in or whatever. How I'm not sure how it works exactly, but whoever's ahead of her agency, she's retiring or she's like stepping down. So it's like, oh, shit, I need to go find new agents. Right? You know, says, all right, here we go. And I think Jim, Jim Carrey has a similar story with his father talking about. He could have been a great comedian, or Jim Carrey was like, yeah, he's so funny. He was the funniest person I ever knew. But he took a safe route being an accountant or working at some sort of job like that, and then he just got canned, you know? So the company went under. Whatever happens, happens. And just like, shit, man, there's there's always risk involved in anything. You're betting on something. Yeah. You're betting on something. Yeah. Always, always. Always. It's like, well you're resting your beliefs on you know, I have the fact that I could pull up a wreck. That's what. That's what it is. Yeah. And now we have a good idea. And then, we found, we found an instrument. We found, like, a new fishing tool. Imagine if I'm like, bring a hook out. I'm like, watch, bro. Like. It's blue. Like, whoa. You know what I'm saying? It would be valuable. Yes. That's a valuable tool in today's landscape. Business landscape. Are lit. So it's cool. So it's cool. That it's. Been on something. I guess. Yeah. It's nice because you get to become the person that's like the good bet. You know, I'm saying I've. Made some bad bets in my. Life. Yeah. I know what it's like to. Double down. Yeah. On 13. You get. Delta ten. It's a. Bad. But this is different. You know what I'm saying? It's a different kind of bet. It's a different kind of, wager. Yeah. I just like the formatting, the structure, how it the future I can see with it. You know, it's like I always kind of project into the future and in, like, the one when I look into this window of what the future looks like in through this decision path, I was like, okay, that one looks the most clear. Or is I has like the most clarity, the most color, the most whatever. You know, the most, seems the most realistic. Or maybe it's like the most, the closest that we can actually get to. I'm like, oh, that's that's what it would look like. That's it. Yeah. That's it. Out of all the potential realities I could enter into through my decision trees, you know, I'm saying to the decisions that are presented to me every moment, it's like if I follow from born that way, if I think if I go that way specifically, it gets clearer and it gets brighter and it gets more resolution and it gets makes more sense. And then the steps present themselves. My God, that's the one. That's it. That's what we've been doing that for a long time now. Just like through whenever the music started back in the day, even before then, subconsciously we were just talking about before we started the pot, all that shit back when we were kids. Yeah, it's crazy crumbling video fucking being fucking wireless. Yeah, we had a dance video doing a. Crazy dance video. We're going crazy as. Krumping in a hot tub. Yeah, it's out there somewhere. I'm sure it'll circulate when we blow up. But if you ask me, like, why would they sent from. Yeah, I was trying, I was wrong, I thought it was funny. I thought, I want to make content. And then once we started making content, I was like, wait, hold on, let's try to hit this, like, do the thing and then we'll do this thing and we'll do that thing. And then it was like playing Mario Party. But like with making content, I was like, it's complicated, but if we do it all. Yeah, we take a whole bunch of takes. Or like we were trying to get the choreography down. Yeah, yeah, the timing, the choreography. But I thought there was something like worthy there. It was like practice. It was valuable. Like. Why was a mark to hit? Why do I hit a eurostep when I walk through a doorway as a kid? It's because, like, I wanted to, like, always be trying to do the thing I was trying to do, like all the time in the now. And it was just like fun, you know what I'm saying? There was like. How long ago was that? Like ten plus years? It had to be, right? yeah, probably like 30. And that was my idea of what YouTube videos were. Yeah. That was the other thing. I was like, I thought that was a people. Throw it on the wall. 2010 something in that ballpark. Yeah. Lord knows. Early YouTube videos are just like my hey. Why are you like this? Early virality was a low threshold. Yeah. It's talking to the lady about that yesterday. Because we grew up born in the late I guess early 90s. So like we saw the whole progression of like when we were seven and eight, it was like 2000, 2001. It's like we're right into that corner. It's like we saw some shit come out. We saw the phone, the internet, fully developed social media come into play. It's like we saw all that come into just like the The matrix, into the matter, into the day to day use of how we interface with this life thing. enough people do it. It becomes commonplace. So it becomes, what is it? You know, I guess in the matter, you know, back whenever only a few select people were on Facebook or like the early adopters or innovators, it's like small scale with whatever it is, and then eventually it becomes the meta or whatever, whatever that references to, you know, if enough people adopt it or see it or believe it. If it's the truth, Like, yeah, we saw all that shit come into the meta. Yeah. Phones. Yeah. Social media was a crazy social media. Facebook was a crazy thing. I mean, we had. A crazy childhood. Now thinking. About it. Yeah, that's some crazy. Shit. Yeah. We were like seven and eight years old. Yeah, it does feel like 13. 14. like our parents were tripping on having a phone that was like a quarter phone. And you would, like, walk around with, like, this really long cord, walk around the house, this phone, and then, like, you'd like sacred. Hang it up. That was like a whole culture. Yes. Family. Household. Was that shit, and like, really fast. We had, like, just cheap, like just wireless. Like do do. Do do do. Like your home line really quick. And so there's no more really home phones anymore. It's like it's like, yeah, we saw everything like set. Yeah. Full spectrum weird. Weird childhood we had. Yeah. And now these children are going to have that whole landscape. And then and then some say, oh shit. There's this kind of, this. Is weird. There's got to be okay. Lived some shit so crazy. I'm thinking, like someone that was alive in the 50s and then went through the 60s, like, let's say they're 20 years old in the 50s, and then by the 60s, they're 30. And then by the 70s, they're 40. That means they'd be 50 years old at the 80s. So like when they're 55 and it's like 85, they were probably like, yo. Yo, yo, this is crack. That's some shit. I made it that far. Was over 50. Five years old, right? I hope I'm joking about Joe Rogan jacked that 50. Five like a gorilla. Yeah, well, that could be like the zoo. What the hell? You got out again? Saw forearms walking around? No, but yes. Times are different. Different times. Just sad to say. I guess that the perspective of man, I saw so much curvature, I'm like, I wonder if everybody that lives through three decades has been like, this shit's nuts out here like this. It just evolves and evolves. But specifically with us, the the internet, the internet really was a. That that started like when we were kids, you know what I'm saying? We saw that YouTube coming to fruition or like from nothing. It was cat videos and shit. Yeah. Yeah. That that's that's pretty bonkers. Yeah. Right. And how big is the internet paying people. They are. How much is YouTube paying the people that I'm sure a lot. Many, many are YouTubers that are getting paid. That's like what's a lot. And the top one percenters make a lot more than the top 10% probably. Yeah, that's how a lot of it works. But what's a lot? You know what I'm saying? If you have a TikTok account that gets $10,000 a month, like, that's a lot. That's a. Lot. That's that's income. That's fact. It's fat income. Yeah. You chilling on that. Does people who have six. Figures. Just fucking spooky story TikTok pages that are. Like conspiracy shit or whatever, whatever niche faceless videos they're making it look just how the Instagram ads and I can see. If you feel like y'all see that's on the algorithm. People like, man, it's just so easy. I wake up, I make videos.$10,000. Come on. I met. You, stupid. I met a guy. This thing came out that. He looked sad. It looked like it didn't work for him. Like laugh. And he said you saw someone who it didn't work for? No. I was, introduced to a person who was telling me about how they were, entrepreneur, more or less. He was like a 20 year old dude. Viral. Maybe 30 year old. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I was I worked and, he said that he was like, you seen those TikTok videos where you like, you know, I was like, yeah. And he was like, I tried to do that, but, like, you know, that one that worked out. Really? Yeah. And then of course, you got to be like, what? was he trying hard? Did he do his best? Did he go about in a smart way? How much did you you know, how much did you put into it? Yeah, all those questions, of course, but the guy looked like he looked sad about it, and I was, like, discouraged. did investigate further? Nah. Yeah. Nuh Okay, I heard. No, man, I sure didn't really work out. I was like, oh, okay. I wonder why. Am I I'm right. I was like I said, I'm so sure I'm still gonna try and work out for you, dawg. Is it just cause me one bit where you use the hash to see why you. You fucked up somewhere? I got this, but I understand, like, the internet's a crazy thing. Like trying to make money off of that. And it's a crazy thing. How much money is in the internet? So much. So much. People make it seem. I don't know what. They're also trying to sell you some shit to everyone. Trying to sell you some shit. Don't need want your attention, need your attention. I want you to click on something. Some shit. Ulterior motives. Trying get money. I think Joe Rogan isn't necessarily doing that though. Or like people like that. He he broke through to the top 1%, right? Once you get there, you really. Don't give a. Fuck. Exact Kendrick. Don't give a fucking fuck what you got to say on social media. No one. Really does. They're really living like some people are. Just like. Content is crucial, just like people as they are. Like the Russells. Why you. Get that. Once you get there though, I guess. Right? Because you can't just not once you enter the manor, once you get in that motherfucker, then you're in. Like the the meta being there, like the day to day culture, the day to day of what people are talking about. The consensus of general population. Yeah I guess, yeah. Well. What do people even talk about? Is it what people talk about? That's I think just being. What's the what's the what what meta. We're talking about the culture. The matter of culture. Yeah. So like what are we talking about here in San Antonio as a culture. Yeah. Right. Spurs. Yeah. Right. That's what comes to mind right away. The Spurs. Spurs. The first thing I think about I guess it depends on what you're what you're into. Yeah. You know the same way that whenever you go into a store the store presents itself in accordance with what you're setting out upon it in search of, you know, I'm saying that's what life is, I think. So like no matter what city you go to, you'll you'll find the thing that you're interested in. So if we asked 100 people in San Antonio, that would give us some different answers. But I think the consensus spurs is one of them for sure. Yeah. See, we can go to six like. you're talking about different cities or I guess, I guess I was thinking about like musicians, popular musicians from that place are popular, like the Riverwalk or popular tourism things. Yeah. Or they say it's a it's a culture. Music, movies, big. Little town sports. Little big town. Yeah. That's like a cultural thing, you know what I'm saying? Everybody knows everybody in San Antonio. It's a weird thing. That's the video San Antonio, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the those things like that, that like, what are the people at the watering hole? What are the people that what are they always saying? So like people we say the same stuff. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. And I'll be picking up like okay, this is something y'all think here. You know what I'm saying? I know a lot of the old heads in San Antonio mentioned that. Like, how do you like, 1604 like North side of 281? Like just in that area? I guess it's in the area. A lot of areas in general in San Antonio, like I am in like 30, 40 years ago. This is. Pasture. That I let go of that. This is just this is just green. Like there's nothing here. Look at all this shit. That's crazy. Because I find myself saying that the when I go back home to, you know, like, I'm like, yeah, my high school town. I was like. Now look at all this shit. Yeah. So maybe that's. Like, it really blew up over that one. 83 North Side over. That's crazy bro. yeah. Cedar Park, Texas, North Austin, Texas in general. It's crazy. It's just bully. Poppin. This is growing. San Marcus is pappy I remember I saw it, it was like me like mid pretty early pop to like nowadays pop I saw like that whole thing happened back when I was in high school. Still I was like, oh yeah, this place is poppin. This place is booming too. The university is a great business school. Well, let's talk about some business. That's a they also they stand in all business. They really stand it all business. Can you fucking take bankruptcy on their loans, bro? They standing on the most business. That's the shit that would come up for that money. How are you going to pay us? You're gonna pay us really? For what? But for, like, staying in a dorm for years. Like, the dorm kind of sucks. But in your case, there was 100 other kids in that dorm. Like so many. The business model is crazy. So many people paying so much money. And they charge whatever they want. And I always, when I was there, there was at least a full, I don't know, I could be mistaken, dude, but I am open or in my memory, there's there was a four year run where they had the largest population of students that they'd ever had, like year after year after year. And they were like, yeah, just like every year we take more people. Largest incoming class. Yeah, we've ever had one. And they go crazy. With their orientation. Yeah. Every NSO from that point, whenever we started to whenever we finished, just new or more and more and more every time they're making. Money, brother. Yeah. So even if you like, bump up the tuition like a little bit, you're already, like, breaking a record every year. Like you could take it down year. You could just keep bumping it up$1,000 a year until you take a decline year and then be like, well, that's our line. You know, I don't I don't think they do that because I remember one of the reasons I went to Texas State is because it was more affordable than UT or A&M. But yeah, you're talking about a business. Then if we talk about business, they're making crazy money, brother. Crazy, crazy. Money. Do whatever the fuck that one. Yeah, bro. It's a crazy place. It's a crazy place. And like the. I don't even want to talk too much about it, because I don't want to get canceled out here. And I canceled all on YouTube. Take this episode down. R.I.P. 48 episode episode 48 rapping I remember cash I was on Spotify, but because you had to see you in Jordan Peterson, talk about it. But it just makes sense that they're like pharmaceutical companies or whatever. The money is a fucking quoting The Wire right now. He's like, if you follow the drugs, you can find drug dealers and drug users. If you follow the money and I'll tell you, got a fine. Yeah. It's like who. Whoever wrote that. Bars. Yeah. That's truth. What did. You see that you saw that. Recently? No. fucking in college. You remember? Yeah. They, you know, I watch this shit like a year ago, and I remember that. That's fire bars hit me. They hit me, dog, and they stick to me. Yeah. That's gas. That's gas. Now, that's just great because it's like there's times like that where you're like, fuck! It's like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? It's like Game of Thrones is like that. This is some crazy shit, bro. I was like this. Yeah, good writing is good writing, bro. That's what fucking rules our culture. It's a good art, you know, whatever fucking Michelangelo was around doing his crazy shit, da Vinci, whoever the hell else, it's like, man, just make something that'll stop you in your tracks, make you cry. It's like, what? How do you have that power? What does that where does that come from? Oh, I can tell you exactly. But it exists. It's like good art rules our culture. The closest expression of the truth. To some of our most valuable things on this. Earth. We love it. People love Game of Thrones. people. Love. Yeah. People love movies, shows, books, love music. We can do the rest of the. It's a lifeline. Food. You fucking love it. It's like. It's like that. Food is like that. And that was like food. Yeah, yeah. The artistry. Like, they share that connection with artistry. Just like we really need food. But I think we really need the artistry as well. Yeah. How much were you talking about? We outsource our crazy sanity. We also of sanity. How much city do we outsource to are like, oh, bro. like, what do you mean, like. The music you listen to or the movies that you watch? Just kind of like validating, like that life even looks the way you think it looks like when you see someone going to work wearing a suit because he's got a clock in. It's just like when you see other people have conversations and like, you see someone laugh or you see someone like you kind lie or like whatever nuances of like personal connection, you see. So like that's like validating that you like, your life is like fucking something that's actually going on here, that you're not like a crazy person dropped into reality saying, all my memories are, you know what I'm saying? And I think when you listen to, like, Kanye West or anybody talk their shit or be upset about something or going through something that's like this or some of that, like, oh yeah, like I'm going through that thing too. I can relate. Yeah. The ability to relate to others is what makes us. Like, it helps us, accept the hallucination, almost. You know, I'm saying. Yeah, kinda. Because I think that's what I was feeling whenever we went to a mega multivitamin trip years ago. I remember that feeling of like, wait, are y'all real? Like, I remember that that coming to the forefront of my consciousness, I guess twice I could remember two instances in those. Realms where just the. The thought and the feeling of like, no one else is real, then no one else exists. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, what? You look like you're real, right? You are these people real? Like you're not a figment of my imagination. I can't be sure about them. I'm not 100% sure. I know that I'm I, I am in this. Motherfucker because I'm in here. I'm experiencing experience. Like, for sure. Yeah. And I look over, I was like, wait, but like, you're not like you're going through this thing also, or like their own thing. Yes. But then a completely different planet from me, like I'm sitting on this planet like I'm in this planet, like I. Am the Earth or whatever the fuck you want to call. I am this whatever. That's like, you're you're also or whatever. Like you're also doing that because in my world, like, there's nothing else. Like everything outside of this, my perception, outside of my mind, whatever the hell that is. Your imaginative, imaginative space, wherever you dream or wherever you daydream, whenever you conjure up a mental image in your mind, like, where's that? You think of a beach? Okay, where is that beach? What the fuck? It's like it's in your mind's eye. It could be an actual beach, but, like, it's in your head, you know? Yeah, whatever that places, like, we all have that, and, like, we just connected to it or we're all experiencing our own thing. I know I'm having mine for sure. For sure, but, like, I guess we use the other people to be like, you're also doing this. And this is all like a real thing that we're doing going through together, though. Okay, okay. I could like, accept that it makes it easier to just like, go along with it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. That's the we need that almost. Maybe not. Otherwise it'd be crazy. Yeah. Me too hard to operate day to day. Yeah. If you're losing yourself you're like am I real. Yeah I can. Fucking drive to work. You couldn't like like like be with your spouse. Yeah yeah yeah. And that's like do you have other like. Yes. Like birth. You like I'm real. You're real I made you. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you sure? How sure are you of that? You sound like a crazy person. Like a lock. You look to that kind of shit. No, we're all crazy. Oh, this is it. Sounds like also it is almost. I think that. Like, you would think maybe you wouldn't need that. But I think if all of it were gone, it would be kind of crippling. Like how much we would be like, is this is what I think's going on here? What's going on? Is everybody working a job? Am I getting taken advantage of here? Like, you guys have like, husbands and shit, right? Like you're making compromises. People in your relationships, like you need to fucking. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. Yeah, yeah. What's going on here? How should we act? How should we operate? Yeah. We need that. We need other people for that, for sure. Definitely does validate your sanity and help validate like an like I to consolidate what's going on here to a manageable chunk. It's okay. To. So it's some deep interesting stuff. That's what I'm saying. It was when you were talking about like I am this planet, I am this existence. Like this, this experience that's being played out is like a single RPG straight into my life. Like, I can't I can't distinguish this world revolving around me from not revolving around me. Unless you do exist, which is pertinent information to me, like I need to know that. Like you're also having experience too. So that way I can, like, properly organize myself as a participant in this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would. Need to have that. Otherwise it would get real weird real fast. You know what I'm saying? I don't even know how weird it would get. Yeah. Outside of your fucking conceptualization or understanding our ability to understand. Yeah. You hit that. Bitch. Let's go. Yeah. Some words. You brought up an. Interesting fucking thought because. Because that's like, the fear of. I think some of your fingers when you're like, I can't. Oh, yeah. I couldn't figure it out. That's okay. It's that's sketchy as well. Does it smell good nor bad? I think it's just burn. It's just when you lie to get like a lighter upside down, the flame light goes up. Yeah. And you're like, son of a bitch. It's like an end of long neck. Yeah, long neck lighter. I was hoping I had a torch from work, but I've been out of butane for, like, two weeks. At what point is it my responsibility to go on to Amazon about myself? Butane, I'd say probably right now, but that was the last question I had asked myself the other day. And that's how she gets done. That's how one does. That's kind of gears. That turn, that turn our. Country. Okay. You're not. Country for a decade. Millennia, a. Millennia, millennia. Centuries. The word I was going. But yeah, at some point, it was funny. I was just like, I need this thing. And it keeps not being here. I guess I was going to get it myself. And I was just like, what a miraculous turnaround. What a miraculous. How much of that is just like birth our country, you know, It's gotta do the thing. Let me do the the thing that presents itself to me right now. Do that thing. that's all I can do. Let's do the things as a as a present themselves. Don't worry about the things that haven't presented themselves yet. Try. We kind of have to. That's the plan, but also needs to be loose with the plan. So it's like, yes or no. Paradox. Paradox. Then meaning. What we're talking about for. That. Yeah. I don't want to get too far. Because we're. We're hitting. It. Yeah. We're hitting. That's it. You're talking about your experience. I thought it was also interesting that. we need others. You had to ask your you you said it like it was just so off the cuff. But I think he really meant you, like, actually asked your mom. Yeah. Yeah, I was in the hospital. She's like, you're real, right? Gotta say it. Yeah. Still coming down. Okay, back to this. Back to accepting whatever the hell. Hallucinations playing out in front of us, whatever we call life Day to day life. Like, I was coming down to that and I was still in like, the my own universe was like, okay, well, you're here, right? You exist, I know you, you're real. These people I. Know you're real like, for sure. And you know that I. What was it about your mom that was just, like, such a sure thing? Whereas other people might have been. I guess I was. I knew her, you know, I'm saying. You can. Feel that I was able. Yeah. Or like, I knew I knew I knew who she was, at least in my story. And then in my story, I was able to remember that that was like, makes sense. It's like, okay. Yes. Like she's if anyone can, like, validate that I'm like a real person and that there were real persons like it would be this person who, like, brought me into the world. That's crazy. You have the proof? Yeah. You you definitely like, I didn't just plop into this body. Even though it kind of feels like I did sometimes, like, plop into this existence. Yeah. I didn't just, like, jump in here. I was like, not like it was like, maybe it's not as miraculous, or maybe it's just more simple than that. So you're able to simplify that. It's like, no use, like birth to me. Okay. Now that explains how I got into the game. But I'm like. I think it's deeper than that. In the in the prelude to the game. I think there was nothing that was going on before this that we jump into potentially, or decide to get into or whatever we're called, or it's our turn, or. Maybe it's a really, really long. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, we're waiting for a long time. Yeah. And there was like, yes, we get to enter experience or whatever, just plop into this reality. So here. I am, human. And if all the things that could have been all the things we could have been, were humans. Bonkers, these. Specific humans, these exact people right here. So what's this a lot say I was. If you need the other people, they'll validate. Like, I'm not crazy here because we're all a little bit crazy. I think there was another, it was a Game of Thrones character. I'm trying to remember exactly what the situation was, but there are talking about crazy people, quote unquote. And it's like a crazy person. Or maybe I was on Instagram was like a crazy person isn't really necessarily. It's not that they what they see. It's not that what they're saying they're seeing isn't there, it's just that no one else can see it, you know? So it's not necessarily that that is a crazy. They're just in a minority of perception, you know, says. Yeah. Every we're all crazy. What's before. They're all fucking crazy What's before an early adopter like innovator. Yeah I guess like an innovator would under those guidelines always be considered crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Every time. Every time. Mr. Beast. Elon. Jeff. At first comedians. But I think also like you said, we're all crazy because we all, like, have a particular perception point, and because that particular perception point would point us in the direction of new, that would make us all crazy because we're not generalized. No one's like just doesn't generalize. They're going to call college and majoring in general studies. So you're not gonna like, specify you're not specified to anything. You don't have any interest. But I think naturally we all have real life interests that put us in a niche. You know, that's crazy. I guess, like going into college, I was like general studies, you know? So it's like, I don't know what the. Fuck I'm doing. I'm going to go to the College of Science and Engineering or whatever, see what the fuck they have to offer. Yeah. And I just went with, my roommate he went to because we were in the same boat. That's like, what the. Fuck are we doing here? He's like. I'm not even sure why he ended up going that way. Maybe because some of our friends were had this. Have you thought about what you wanted to do with your life up to that point? Not really. Not like fully. Yeah. Actually, yeah. I'm not like at all. Like a loose abstraction at best. Yeah, yeah. What are you expected of a 17. 18 year old? You know what I'm saying? Like they're just. Kids. We're all just kids growing up. Did you ever see, like, like a doctor on TV and think, like I want to be that guy? No, I don't think I'm trying to remember because I didn't really want to be like an athlete either. Like, you know, I love playing sports, but I didn't. I didn't like I projected going into the NBA, and I was like, I don't think I want to like, go that or like, that's not like the it's not calling to me, you know, saying I never really had anything that was calling to me, just an abstract idea of just like, I want to be successful. And what does that look like? How do you do that? And then I guess that was kind of coupled with the idea of like, well, you need to set yourself up to have a good job and to have something consistent to fight the consistent. That's fucking life that's going to come, like comes at you expenses and all that shit. So you need something. You need something safe, I guess was like, I like the thought that college was like that route that presented itself as like, the pathway to that type of life, that type of reality where you're safe or like, you feel okay. Yeah. Financially stable. It's like I had to get a good job. You go to college. I was like, you know, that's that. That's how it's been painted for the last. Whoever knows how long until recently, you know, say in the last like eight years, I would say that the narrative has been like. It's kind of switched big time versus like 20 years ago. There's a couple of things going on there. Okay. Definitely, yes. You don't necessarily need a degree to be. Like to have that successful life that I wanted in high school. Yeah, my mom was definitely like, you are going to college because I'm more of a. More. Vocal. like no questions asked because I'm a good mom. So I'm, I'm a good mom. So I'm sending my kid to college and, like. They're making my kid do the hard thing that's worth doing. Right. And I think that culture felt that way for like, a super long time, long time. But it definitely seems like you can I don't know, are people talking like that? Yeah. What's the alternative route? What are they saying? You do this instead. You go to college, you just go there. Yeah, I guess there's options for like, trade schools or drama with this one guy I saw on social media talking about it, I think he said, yeah. So most of the people who get degrees don't even, like, use what? That I get a job in the field of what the degree is in like 80% or something, like some crazy statistic and things like, and most people who end up getting a job that they keep for a long term, they end up or I guess it's like, yeah, it's not related in the field. And they get like on the job training or like they get a different certification that's like for that job specifically. Right? So it's like it's not even really being used for like 100 like as as intended, you know. Or I was like, it should be intended because no one knows what the fuck they want to do in that day. Young. You know, it's a crazy thing to ask somebody to pick, hey, you haven't experienced enough life to know really what you want to do. Like, yeah, I had at that time was like general conceptualization of, like, an abstract idea. I want to be a successful person like you that says as specific as I could get it. And then even more specific, as I got through college, I was like, okay, I want to like, on my own business one day. I want to be in like the one who's in charge, like I want to be the one who's, like, working for me or working for me was kind of like, I don't know, it's another another kind of idea that's been spread throughout culture, like entrepreneurship is probably an all time high. You know, I'm saying, yes, doing dropshipping, do whatever the fuck you want to do. Definitely seems away in Instagram. Right? Instagram's got me too algorithm. I think we share. Now I'm with you. That's what Instagram does too, because it shows us. Oh, like, if you like something, then I'll show it on my feet. And if I like something else on your feet, that's. Crazy. Because we're friends. Instagrams crazy. or where we engage with each other's profiles. It's like algorithm. These companies are nuts. But I do agree. The tension horse. I think Covid also launched a lot of people into trying to make their own money through the internet, because they just had time on the internet. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Like I saw somebody on Shark Tank and it was this lady and she said she started a dropshipping company where she was selling sweaters, and she had like a crewneck and a hoodie, and the crewneck was like 45 and the hoodie was like 52, and she had made $700,000 a day. But that's why all the sharks were like, well. What are you here for? Like, you still want more money, you want expand? And then she was like, oh, I made $700,000 today. This fish this fiscal year. But my total sales are like, 1.2 million or something like that. And they were like, okay, so you started a clothing company, they dropship it, you do it all by yourself, and you've generated over $1 million total revenue. Like, you're fucking cracked, lady. You're cracked like that's. What you're do it like what's. Okay. What is is that was Shark Tank trying to get me to believe that. Maybe because it just seemed to. I was just really engineer propaganda, right. who knows how deep the puppet strings get? What if. What do they want? That's the other thing. It's like, what do you want for me? For what? Like. For what? Yeah. You're trying to sell me the American dream in hopes that I fail more or less because that's the only reason. It's like a bad. Unless you're just, like, happy. I think they want people in debt. Probably. Yeah, I guess they want people spending money. You know, saying for sure, maybe not. Maybe that's like the most common route. There's just like the debt. But I guess, like I said, what is like a healthy market where the energy's flowing, the transactions are flowing, people are borrowing and lending and paying back and offering services and paying for services and innovating goods and whatever, I guess. Right? Yeah. What are you spending money for sure. So profitability. That's, that's that's the fucking the center stone of a business. So if you can take what you have and turn a profit out of it. Right. That's how you live. You progress so you survive lifeblood of a business like your reviews, the ability to bring more people in to do more business. The reviews are. Marketing, reviews are validation. You know saying. That. To get attention validation we need social. We need we need the people to tell us what's. Real and what's not. What's the fuck's going on here? Yeah, we. Do, you know what I'm saying? That's why reviews are important. Yeah. Whether there was no reviews about anything ever. There was a time like that, like fucking 40 years ago. People talk. Everybody. No. Yeah. We need people. This is because I don't know. This is a crazy thing we're going through here. Yeah. Crazy experience. But it's also individualized. You know, I'm saying the same times. It's that paradox. It's a whole bunch of paradoxes in this motherfucker. It's like you are the individual singularity. But like, we are so interconnected, we and we're all experiencing this individual singularity together, and we're all connected in that. I think whatever's generating my individual singularity is also generating your individual singularity. You know, I'm saying it's all coming from the same source. Yeah. You know. Yes, I see that as like, like a diamond reflecting light from a source. Yeah. Or all this different, like, angle of the light connection. Source. Yeah. Exactly. Right. But it's from the same light. several fucking reviews. Lifeblood of a business. Profit. Because what do they. Need to make money? That they want. I guess if they want the economy flowing, then that's great. Well yeah. Well we're talking about the government shark tank. There we go. Yeah. How deep is the propaganda. Get. I don't know. It's scary thoughts. It could be. Yeah. Yeah. Who's control. And what were we talking about before that. We're talking about. I think probably what that is is they're trying to they're that show is trying to sell us in that moment. They're pitching that that the demographic for that show that's hitting right there is like the people like us. I want to make money independently. They want to start a dropshipping brand. I just don't think a lot of people are making $700,000. She said she did it by doing like, yeah. What was special about her process or her designs? She they were really high quality, really nice. And she designed them herself. I don't know, I don't think she answered that question. Maybe she did though, but yeah, also, she dropped them like in drops. So she dropped like I had like three sales a year and then they would sell out every time. And she just like reload for the next shop, drop it and then sell out. And she's like had X amount of successful drops. How did she get these people to even look at her drops? It's a great question brother Shark Tank super. I'll do that. Like. Okay lady, I believe it. Okay. Digital marketing. Bet on you. That's what she did. Yeah, it fucking worked. Yeah. She probably. Hey. Funny work. Come on. You know, some independent entrepreneurship I think is at an all time high. Yes. Is it safe to say that? Yes, I think so. I think so too, I think so. If it's not, that's what we want it to be. Small businesses are the lifeblood of the American economy, right? I mean, what the fuck you want? Walmart. And what else is Amazon? Amazon just to be running everything just to give you here's your scissors. And it's just one scissor. That's your whole life. Here's your vitamin. It's just like this. Only that. That's like not how capitalism is supposed to work. It's not supposed to be competing products and competing markets, creating a consumer friendly environment because they're always trying to give you a better deal, give you a better product for less money because they have to outperform their competition. But instead we have these like Google Earth companies that dominate the marketplace. And then if we go through a recession, like during Covid, bro, like a lot of a lot of restaurants closed. Oh, how many bro. Oh baby I think we talked about this before. It was like it was like 70% or something. I don't know, maybe we were just estimating. Maybe we were just getting a little bit. Of speculation. Unless we got. Validation on an actual number, a figure. But yeah, I'm sure upwards of like 70% bro bro, who knows. Bro. Just gone. Anyone who wasn't part of like a mega corporation except for I guess we we no one I fucking survived. You know, I'm saying at a crazy point, like that wasn't a part of a corporate structure, right? A larger corporate structure or has other businesses to help supplement its like. But but most over half for sure. Over half dead. Completely done any mom par any of that bullshit done. Like what are they supposed to do that's rough. That's fucked up brother. Hopefully there's been funds or hopefully someone. Maybe there's been some stuff that started for the service. And I think there maybe have has been something that started for the service industry specifically after that time, shortly after. The relief, something. Yeah, some sort of foundation or organization, something. That assigned a lot of money towards it, but I don't know how much of it all went there. Who knows about. That? All you can tell us. And a Joe Rogan crazy. Crazy thing that happened there though, in our in our life. Yeah, I think with a business like that, it's tough to try to be a small business that stays alive forever. Like maybe small businesses are still alive forever, and maybe like small businesses need to grow into large businesses, you know. As I saying. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's kind of true, I guess. I don't know, unless you get to us or ideally, like Joe Rogan, for example, is just trying to get to a point where, like, you're just breaking even. I guess he has other supplemental income, but if that's like you're sole income on that business, you can just be breaking even all the time. Yeah. Can you can't. Can't inflation happening. You can't eat on it. It's coming in other small pieces. Businesses are forming to provide your service at a lower price. And then in an enhanced way. That's the name of the game. So you gotta I think you got to get yoked. You gotta get business and financially yoked up. Yeah. Yeah. That's one phosphates, one theory and that's a thing. Yeah. If it's a small business really flexible and liquid edible. And like if you turn a profit for 3 or 4 years and you can like keep your brand and your business alive no matter what happens to like the physical constraint of the current ecosystem. Like we all got the recession. We still need to be able to find a way for our company to be successful, for the new idea, for the new site, for the new service that we provide, for the new product. Like if we have to adapt to the marketplace, we need to be able to be like adaptable, you know? But if you're a freaking mom and pop Italian restaurants for 20 years, satellite adaptability there Hmhm can't turn that company into something else. You know you can't really pivot to too hard. Yeah, you could drop shipping spaghetti. Calzones to go calzones. Yeah. So I think that's one one way when we designed, our businesses were super flexible because this idea has been flexible our whole life. We do a band or make YouTube content. What we're doing here, what we're doing, we're making music, making gas music. Okay, that's how. It's coming out. Y'all. Yeah, music's. Dropping. By the time this is out, it will already have been out for a couple days now, so enjoy that shit. This is bang. Yeah. Hope you like more music coming out. The passion. That's the spirit that drives us forward. Crazy shit keeps us shit going. Yeah, yeah. It's just coming out. Yeah. So hopefully I'll enjoy my music coming. And we're just fucking keep going. Keep moving. Hit the target. Hit that target too. We're going this way now. That target. Just keep. On. Keep on calling, baby. All right, there you go. Right where I fucking there. Oh. Right there. All right. We're right fucking there, dog. It's going down. Y'all right there. It's going down. It's going fucking down. Yeah, bro I love that we named it passion because it's like that's just our it's like the transition from death to self to alive to passion. As far as like a three track, three track, three track and then we had we spring on I Miss You as a single, maybe a sprinkle in, whatever. Red hot as a single. By the way, the three packs are a cool progression. One, two, three. It's like that. The self alive and then passion. And it's just like the idea, like, I like the transition that we kind of made or like a that people make or like the one fucking like in books, like spoiler alert, whatever, Harry Potter dies. It's like he dies and he comes back. And then like, people like, that's a very common motif in a lot of stories. And then that is like the death to self, to the alive and like death to self being like the death to your whatever you think is going on here, whatever you're holding on to is like, this is what's happening, this is what's happening. This is what's happening. It's like, you're probably wrong. I'm sorry. Sorry to tell you you're probably fucking wrong. Yeah. So then you have to, like, let go of that. That's very scary, because then what is there? And like, what is it? If you're right, it'll come back. Well whatever the truth is what's left there. Yes. Right. Yeah. And so if your perception. Of truth objective reality. So hopefully letting go is like hopefully it feels good because then you're like holding what you thought you were holding and that would be awesome. But if you're not you can just attune yourself to that, you know. Yeah I can. Let that go down to that egoic that that, that, that part of yourself or whatever that is many other interpretation. We can go on for days about this shit. Yeah, but just like the idea of that in a loose sense. And then. Yeah, and then what comes next would be like the rebirth of the rebirth into new life or into a different perspective, a different understanding, a new understanding, enhance understanding. More experience, more fine tuned, more refined, more definition, more anejo, finer wine. You've seen more development. You come back with that new perspective, and then you operate with that, and then you make new decisions and do all that shit. And then I think those decisions and the thing that should come after that, if you're able to let go of like what I think is happening here is like, hey, I need to go to college and get a good job, I need to get that good job. I need to work there, I need needed whatever that was my that was my particular specific egoic what's happening here? How do you how do we exist here? What's going on? What's worth doing? You know what I'm saying? How do I how should I live my life? I want to have a successful life. Okay, that makes sense. You want to be, like, financially stable, have, like, a family, all that. All that good shit. The American dream fucking pop there on 4th of July, all that fun stuff. Pop bottles on New Year's Eve. That was my projection going forward. I'm just like, I want to have that type of life. And then but I didn't. I had my own. I developed my own pathways of how to get there through my own means and my own definitions of what I think is happening. And that was go to college and then you get a girlfriend and then you do this, you graduate college and then you get an internship and you get a job, and then you climb the ranks in that hierarchy and whatever the fuck that. All of that was what I thought was happening here and was what was worth doing, or how what was worth devoting your life to in a broader sense, but in a day to day what it looked like day to day, and then it to be able to like all of that and say, fuck that. What's worth pursuing here? What's worth doing day to day, what's how, what's worth living your life look like? What is it? I guess ultimately you want to feel something. You want to be more. It's not that wasn't fulfilled at that job or in that life, in that relationship or whatever. It was just a different it wasn't, I think, there because we're I think we're called here for something. I think we're there's a this is tailor made your individual individuality and singularity is tailor made for you and you alone and like you specifically like intimately more than you even know yourself. It was made for you, you know. So you'll stumble upon the things in your life. You're like, oh my God. This is crazy. I love this thing or whatever. This is hidden, this is indifferent. But so the ability to let go of what I thought was happening here and then to pursue a different, unknown, completely unfamiliar territory of doing music, from transitioning from a fucking 9 to 5 Monday through Friday job in like a corporate office eventually, or like in more of a lab, but then transitioning eventually, ideally on my career path from, the person who hired me and like, what they had to offer me going forward in the company was also going to do that for a little bit and then progress into the fucking cubicle, whatever. You know, I'm saying the office. Office. Right? And I was like, right on the cut. So I was like about to transition into that within the next like six months probably, or whatever. And there was a job opportunity within that to help me get out to like further put me in that there was a job this like just just coming back to me right now. But like there's a I remember there's an opportunity that came up within that company that would have allowed me to apply for that job and then to potentially get it and then go to the corporate office just like boom, boom, boom. And then it presented itself. And I was just like, that's that was like a you feel it. You know, that's a feeling process here we live in, you know what I'm saying. And like choosing hitting a on that option in the game was like further doubling down or continuing on the path of my own perception of what I think's going on here and what I should do, how I should act. And then to I was like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. Truly. I truly don't want to do that. Like, you know, you fucking know. If you listen to yourself and like, just like the open and honest with your heart and your mind and your thoughts and your imaginative, imaginative space, your mental space, if you're open in that to the fullest, you you know, you feel what's right and what's what, you how you should operate, how you should move, how you should act. What's the next action here? What's the right thing to do as it presents itself? And in that moment I just knew, like, no, I don't want to do that. Like I just my soul like, that seems like to be the next logical progression here. And then in like the fucking movie of Justin does this stuff and works at this company and progresses through the hierarchy, that's how that story goes. But then I was like, nah, that's not the story. I want to live like, that's not what I want to have happen here. So now I had to, like, be able to let go of that and then to find something else. That was that thing that felt at least a little bit more like that was like when we made music and when we were hanging out together. I mean, we were talking about being fucking doing our own business and making our own media. And when this stems from when we were kids and making our own, that video, like YouTube video, like 14 years ago. Using crazy trumpet doc choreographed fucking scenes, a whole choreographed like. Minute and a half skit in in a hot. Tub. In the middle of the night. It's like December. Like, you know, have. 12 year old sisters recording. It. Yeah, like, come on now. Like where the hell that come from? So that's that. And then so not doing that job, progressing down that rabbit hole led me to, okay, well, what if I'm not progressing down that rabbit hole? What the fuck am I going to do here day to day? And that being in the way back of our subconscious and it's everything playing out that's like freestyle rapping in college ever since, like late high school, early college, all that time, all of that led to the like, I want to do that. Like, I love the way I feel when that happens, or like when I am doing that and I'm doing it correctly, it's the best feeling like you could have, you know, saying when you're fucking just crushing it. And now, like, I see that transition into other things in our life, but back then, it looks like I want to continue the feeling of whatever produces the feeling I have whenever I'm freestyling. And then I'm like, just because you could feel in your freestyle and you're able to just like you're at first year trying to rhyme words together red head, dead cat hat. And then once you get past that, you're able to, like, set yourself up and create nuances and like hit different syllables. And the each beat is a different offering of a potential way to dance, every different tempo, every different drum pattern organization, all that is different opportunity to dance in a different way on the beat, verbally. So then, like whenever you're hitting that in the fucking real time with no preparation and it sounds good and it makes sense and it's hard as. Fuck and like you're on the beat. And like you're delivering it with confidence and you're so ahead of yourself that you're able to, like. Hit it with. Some. Confidence, even though you're fucking. Just making art out of nothing, out of air. You're fucking making magic happen. It's like that feeling is crazy. I want to do that. And that was what? Alive. Just like a passion. That's what it is. That's what the passion is. Whenever you become alive and open to the idea of like, I don't know what the fuck is going on here, maybe there's a better way forward. How should I live my life? And then, like that thing that illuminates and cause to you that that that feeling of fucking. Maybe you don't have that yet. I know it's hard to fucking find. That's the thing which we're all praying for. Yeah, that's what we're all hoping for with faith is just a belief in like a higher spirit is to at least a little bit of a degree. But I think that calls you forward into that adventurous like adventure of your life. Like the thing you're meant to do that the the fucking you're Lord of the rings, you're fucking The Hobbit. Whatever your story is. Yeah, you're Bilbo Baggins moment where you fucking go out of your home and you go crazy, slay that dragon, get the fucking wealth. Yeah, it's worth doing. I think that's why I fucking love that progression of death itself to alive. And then once you become alive and enlightened, or at least awakened to the idea that you don't know what the fuck's happening here, it's like once you strip yourself of your ego or have one of those experiences, it's like, oh, okay, I don't know the fuck's happening here. Maybe there's something else out there that's good. Like, help me figure it out, because if you want to figure it out, you'll you'll you'll figure it out if you really want to. But some people don't want to. And that's that's okay. But you need to. Kill that part of yourself. Yeah. Let's see this side of the coin. That's, I can take full responsibility for this experience. And if I did, there's no telling how ultimately awesome I could be. and that's a. There's no talent. It's just. It's just hard to sign up for that war. You just don't even know that there's an enlistment guy around the corner. Your own personal David Goggins. And you ready to sign the contract? You ready? Yesterday. The day? Yeah. What about today? We're gonna put the shoes on and go for a run. We'll do that thing. We're gonna sign on the resume. Yeah, we're gonna open that book, and we're going to whatever the fuck it is. Dude. Fucking do it, bro. You got me over here, bro. It's just one of those. Moments where I know I'm going to watch this shit and get inspired later on because I'm just like, that's it, bro. That's the there's always a there's a there's a conversation, there's a negotiation. There's a you and a you at a table and there's a you that that wants to do some shit. Like you said, it's like hard to be passionate about something like it is. But like, you also like you kind of know like there's this guy I was talking about. We have like, these childhood embers of, like, things that we would have liked to have done with our life. And, for him, it was like he wanted to be like, a jet pilot, and he wanted to be a rock star, and he wanted to be, a football. Player. We wanted to be in a band. That was a thing that, like. You know what I'm saying? That made sense to me. Made sense because it was, we were. Together for. Someone. It was an outlet of this thing that we're talking about, fucking being able to whatever, bro. Yeah. Eight years old. And then he said that, like the. The like the keeping alive of the embers, the sprinkling on to keep the embers alive of those like childhood passions is what ultimately manifested into the things that he was able to do as an adult. And it wasn't necessarily like doing those things literally. But he's like, that's what how people could end up like finding their personal purpose or their passion. It's like started the roots of like when you were a kid, like, what did you dream about? What do you think about doing what? What excited you? Right. I remember being like, I because my doctor would always ask me when I was a kid, I was like, part of the physical checkup was like. A spiritual checkup? Yeah, right. Where's your head, I kid, what do you, put your heart in? One of the questions was like, what do you want to be when you grow up? Okay, I love that. How old are you? this is probably like 5 to 10. Okay. And then there was a point where I think, like, the earliest answer, the the the first answer never makes sense to me, but I said, like, firefighter or policeman, like, I. Want to uphold some fucking justice. Yeah. I mean, one of the good guys. I want to help people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be a good guy, right? I'll get the bad guys. I'll help. Help. I'll help the. People. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. And then I never really remember having, like, that conversation as a kid whenever I was like ten and looking back at, like, the the fires, you know what I'm saying? But then it was like policemen and then it was like, video game designer when I was like 6 or 7, I was like, video games are. Creative. Games are awesome. Can I just make these? You know what I'm saying? That'd be pretty. Cool. Yeah. And it made sense because my dad was always on a computer. I don't know. Okay. But then. I see. I'm pretty sure after that, like a, like third grade, I just wanted to be a professional athlete. And I just like professional athlete, professional athlete, professional athlete. But there was and like that, that when he was talking about the story, about the embers and like he was basically saying like homeless people have like the embers of their childhood dreams and wishes and things that excited them when they were kids. And if we spent more time keeping those embers alive, they would ultimately find purpose in our world. Like they could find a job or a career that would be like, worth pursuing because it's hard to get out of homelessness, you know what I'm saying? But to, like, bear the responsibility of having a home and a job and keeping yourself alive and paying the fucking electricity bill, all of that shit, like what would make it worth it to them would be ultimately like, and. Then it rooted in there. Yeah, right. Connected in some abstract way. Because it's them. It's their fucking life. It's there's tailor made experience. That would be the escape from the hell. The things I call to you naturally. Right. Investigate those. When you talk. At the deepest roots. I always think when. You're talking about passion. Yeah, yeah. The same like thing in me. Wrong deep is like how do you find passion? And it's like, I think it's the embers of, well, something along the lines of what that guy was saying. It's like it's in there. It's in you. Like, yeah. We wanted to have a band. We were kids. Yeah. But like that idea, like, died and then, like, was gone for a long time before we were like, long time. Let's make music. Yeah. And this media and this different medium. Yeah, right. We're going to be a rock band. Yeah. Yeah. So I hit the drums. Yeah. Then it made sense to me. Like I was taking guitar lessons and my dad played like six instruments. So my mind I'm like, well, you could just learn any instrument, you know what I'm saying? But I just like taking the time to learn all these instruments. So then that's. Tight. With this thing that we have going on, like you and me, though, it's like, well, we'll just learn every instrument. Like, fuck it like that part. The work doesn't really matter. It's like, what do we want to do here? You know? Yeah, yeah. What's worth learning? Learning is all of our superpower. We all have the ability to learn something, right? Integrate unknown information, incorporate it, and then be able to act differently because of that and have a different output and a different results that gets better the more that you do it. So it's like we have a crazy superpower. It's like, what the fuck do you want to use at all? I was thinking about I was going through like the insurance stuff or like thinking about anything else. I had to learn anything. I just fucking sat down and wanted to learn it. It's like reading, like you would read shit that you're interested in. That's the I want to go to the Jordan Peterson Academy, right? Like I want to sign up. I fucking want to do it. I don't I haven't looked at how much it is. I got the email because I'm on the email list. Come on. For early enrollment. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. And I'm just like, I want to do that shit because it's like, what's worth learning? It's like, that's a difficult fucking question to ask. And I do feel like you said, and maybe, I think maybe you were just a more honest person when I asked you, did you know what you wanted to be when you were going into college? Because, like, I had some idea of what I wanted to be, but did I actually know what I wanted to be? Fucking? No. I was just like, telling myself some story. Of what? You know what I'm saying it. And also like you're doing. Yeah, regardless. And maybe you just are more honest approach to it where you were like, I feel like a general studies major sometimes just in life. Or I'm like, you know, I'm not exactly sure what the right thing to do is all the time, you know what I'm saying? You got to, like, feel that thing and like, yes. I don't know what the fuck I was talking about, but the passion fuels a lot of that. The passion is what keeps it, like me, attuned to, like, I'm warm when I'm doing this. Like, this feels like what I want to do. Yeah, you'll feel it. Because life's a feeling process, man. If you open your, Who knows? I don't know if I'm talking. About, I guess what I'm saying. It makes it it makes sense to us as a kid through the to the band. Yeah, yeah. To the band and to pursue the music and then just. Yeah. It's just so strange though. There's like the, the way that life played itself out allowed me to stumble into a thing that because I wasn't even the we weren't the precursor to, like, let's start freestyling. Like we were just hanging around people who were freestyling, and then that's just, yeah, entered our culture, entered our matrix, and we were like, this is awesome. And like, just like. And it. Was right. It was. Awesome. We would like, yeah, even just listening whenever we were, say, like you would, I guess typically you would put the phone in the middle or whatever you were doing on the computer, play the beat, and then you would usually go around the circle to a degree sometimes or whatever, whatever was going on. But even whenever you listen to other people, it's like you get that feeling of whatever the shit's popping off. You're like, oh shit, this feels great. Yes. Yeah, what is this? It's crazy. It's crazy. It's a magic. It's you know what I'm saying? It's just the way that life played itself out. Looking back, I could see all the other dots connecting, thinking about. I was in fucking choir in sixth grade. You say? Fuck yeah. Oh, some random shit. Yeah, I was in choir. Lives in choir. And I think I may have already mentioned Slipknot previous, but I'll say it again. I was in choir in sixth grade on some random shit, and then my senior year of high school I had enough credits. I guess I had enough. I filled in all my classes, so I had enough time for like one more free period for one more elective base class or whatever. And then I ended up getting I didn't pick a class. And then I guess whenever I was doing registration the year prior from junior, senior year, but then I get my senior year, schedule the first day of school, and then my last period of class on the day is music theory. AP some other random shit. Just like I was. What do you take this one breath. Took it back. Looking back, it's like, that's a weird connection. That's a weird connection. That's tailor made experience, bro. Who wouldn't want. Slumdog Millionaire type shit? Why does the movie hit that? Movie hits? Yeah, does. We talked about a year plus ago. But it fucking hits because that's the truth. It's talking about is a tailor made aspect of the singularity that you're experiencing. Yes, you're the singularity and you're the fucking collective or the entirety. So it's difficult to manage and process, but. It's a lot. Are you connected to it at the very least? Yeah, at the very least. I'm not saying you're wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're made in God's image. You know what I'm saying? What what that sentence means is, like, you spend your whole life trying to figure that out, and it'll evolve. It means the difference. You. I think as you get older. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's like the way I'm to be rewatching a show, a rereading a book, you know, the person. You're the person you are, the books. The same. The media is the same, the arts the same, I guess. But like, it's different because you're a different person whenever you're reading it and like, you're able to pick up different, interpret different, conceptualize different like make connect different dots like see. So you couldn't even see before like in rewatching Game of Thrones, I was like, man, this show is so fucking good. It's even better the second time around. It's even better the third time around. That's how I feel about season 25 on the bar. Yeah. Better the second time around. But a third time, yeah. Never the same thing. Heavy was working out to like same thing, same weight, same squat. But I just like as I get older, you know what I'm saying? I'm like I just see different things. Like I feel different things from it. I have a different appreciation for it, for respect for different love, different hate. Yeah. Some of the difference in me. Yeah. But especially crazy in books. I remember my mom trying to express that to me when I was a kid. Just like as you get older, you got to keep reading these books because like it. Yeah. As you get older, it'll grow with you. But that's that's hard. It's a hard thing to conceptualize as a kid. But then when you start seeing it happen, you're like, whoa, give me ten. Second time around is bananas. You catch it, you really catch on. Like worthy of a second run. Oh, absolutely. Really. The second one was better than the first, for sure. People say that and I'm just like, if you've never seen it one time, anything, if you've never seen it once up there, like second time's definitely worth it. I'm like. Really? Like, damn. Yeah, run it back. You had to run it back. All. You got to run it back. And yeah, the lady's in complete agreeance. She's like, oh my God, this is so much better because I'm able to follow it or like, I'm able to like, here's kind of the whole time you're like, what the fuck's happening in a whole bunch of crazy shit is happening, like all the time. Every episode is like, crazy shit's going down, but it's like, it's hard for you to you to understand who the characters are, how they interact with the dynamics are the nuances of their character development, what's happening, who's related to who, who fights for who? So who's married to who? It's like all fucking. It's all there's a lot a shit going on here. So it's so it's so much it's just like Harry Potter, but like the, the whole fucking. It's just all about, there's so many, there's different names and houses and like, a whole country and a whole history to this country or to this land, these lands, these seven kingdoms. So there's a whole bunch of information. So the ability to see it all once and to have a loose understanding within enough time past for you to forget a lot of the major events or not. The major major like you'll you'll never forget some of the stuff that happens because like, but whenever you rewatch it and then that shit's, you're able to have enough of a foundation to like, keep up with the pace of the show because the show is running like about a million miles a minute from the jump. That's just like, oh, there's a whole bunch of backstory here. There's a whole bunch of nuances. Like there's already a whole bunch of like, because it starts in the and or like 17 years past a rebellion. So it's like life is happening, rebellion happens. The war ends, 17 year happens. Okay. Now here's what happened 17 years after we rebelled and we won. And now here's the landscape of the land we killed all the motherfuckers who were running things. Now we're running things. And that's where it starts. Saying, oh, that's awesome. So it's like. All that backstory. It's like, you don't know any of that when you're watching it the first time. So it's like, wait, what? Why is that important? Who is that? How are they related? And so then now she has enough of an understanding to be like. Oh, this run is great. This is this is the run, this is the run. Am I getting dragged like, yeah. Yeah. There that's I it's it's the area. Yeah. That's it's so worth it. It's so tight. So many nuances. It's so good, so good. Speaking of good TV, I loved Mr. Mrs. Smith. Oh, you Donald Glover fucking boy. You just. The man. Just does a. Legend. He's a legend. He's my favorite. He's my favorite rapper. He's my favorite. That's. That's my guy. That guy inspired the shit out of us. Dude, I saw Mr. Mr. Smith and I heard yo Shinoda like yo Shenoy. Yeah, that song. And I was just like, that's a lock for me. Instantly. Number one locked it in. He he can at any time. I need to hear that song. At any time. He can make what the fuck we deem a banger at any time. He's just doing other shit, which I appreciate. He's being a creative. As fashion leader. Yes, yes, that. Now that I see him in that. Light. Yes. Now we're old enough to see. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm like, you're my favorite artist for sure, actually. Yeah. You have like, a truly creative, entrepreneurial spirit, like entrepreneur per se, but like, well, creative. Yeah. He made fucking Mr. Mr. Smith, you know. He made Atlanta. Yeah. So there's something there about entrepreneurial or like he wants to. Venturing out into different realms. Just fucking conquering. Just going bananas. It's just so. Good. He has 16 Emmy Award nominations. Really? Yeah. Son of a bitch. It's going fucking. Bonkers. Dude. Well, Mr.. Mr. Smith or Atlanta? Mr.. Mrs.. Smith. Oh, shit. Okay, cool. That's a that's on Amazon, right? Yeah. Okay. And it's one season. Is it done. Is it one one and done or is it, The the ending is people are hoping that it gets renewed. Okay. They're just hoping it gets renewed like it hasn't been renewed yet. Like your Honor. Yeah. Like, Wait, what do you mean? I think Your Honors. I'm not sure if there's a third season going to come out or whatever. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, similar to that. Okay. Where it's like the doors open. Nothing definitive. Exactly. I don't I don't want to deliver. No spoilers, no. Spoilers, no spoilers. But it's definitely open to interpretation. Okay. And people are really, really hoping and August you know, I mean we're not. It's a lot it's a lot. I don't know how many. What's the maximum amount. But that's more than one is a lot. Yeah. You Sargon is great. You know you'd have to get a job. Good job. Good job. 16. Yeah. And those are like those type of awards are like best screenplay biggest best lead actor. Yeah. Best sound effects. some of them are less like Golden awards you put on your mantel, you know what I'm saying? But definitely 16 is a lot. Yeah, I'm sure they have some crazy nominations in there. Yeah, I pull it up right now. Just fucking. Let's do it. Let's look it up. For the people. Mr.. Mr. Smith. Yeah. I just want to say thank you for really taking us through, what death itself alive and passion was and what that man and what the truths were there and where that really came from. And that show was powerful. Yeah. That's the best representation of our brand I've ever heard. Ever. Because that's. My dog. That's what it's about right there. That's what it's about. If you asked me about my artistry that that's that's what I've been. That's it. That's what we've been doing. That's where it comes from. So are we been making. And whenever we never we didn't plan that. None of that was planned. We didn't plan that progression into those three tracks or those three projects. No. But I'm also like Mike. It makes sense to me, though. Yeah. It's what we experience or it's what I think happens here. It's a really dope representation of because I'm writing the story of my life more or less, and I think that's a really great representation of what the story of my life has been. So I'm happy to have. I love it, you know what I'm saying? I love what we did. I feel like we really like, yeah, we could do a better job here, do this thing better, get better, get better. Sure, boys. I'm like, those are my dogs. Like, that's. It's tight. Yeah. Job, guys. Good job. Voice yeah. We to keep going and. We grow a lot from what was our first album. Surreal. Oh, God. I don't know that lately, brother. All I know is that whenever you place a real. That first line upon a. Baby, baby, baby boy. Yeah, I say yeah. If you ever needed a beat in college, just you just make one. Yeah. On the fly that was. That song is great. That song is tight. But that was this ironically, is the first song on the album. Was the last song that we wrote. it was. Because we were just fucking just progressing like madmen, like. Madmen, madmen. We were. We still are and we still are. Every so not slowing down. And actually we're like increasing tempo. It's like, oh my God, we're getting faster. The faster it's getting faster. And I'm recognizing it's we're getting recognizable. The the speed increase of the speed increase. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah I felt it yesterday for sure. It was so cool to be like sober and just chilling. And I was just like no I don't really need to like change my state too much. I'm just like, let's get creative. What are we doing? I was like. And just like streamlining creativity. And it was just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, tapping into the world. Come on. Yeah, bro. And I was just such like a good feeling. I was just like, okay, yeah, like, I can do this. We can do this anytime. But it's like very difficult to just pull up to a studio and write a good song. Like five years ago we were doing it. We're fucking doing it. But it's still a difficult thing to do, you know. 100. Percent. But I feel that like right now we're really on the swell of just like crashing bro. It's a big. Wave after wave, wave after wave. Yeah that was a long time ago 2018 I want to say 2018. That is six years ago. Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Two plus four, six. That's a lot of progression. Maybe even just from. The last pack. That's death itself to now. It's like we're still just continuing. To evolve and grow and. You know, finding out what works, what doesn't work. Expression figuring out how to sing, how to rap. I'll be spontaneous. I'll make good art. You know what I'm saying? How many anythings you have to do? What if you to make 10,000 songs to make a good song, it's like, Let's get started. Yeah. Right. I made a whole went to song as a high school girl. I mean, in college. We're getting better fast. Freestyling quick, and. Oh, yeah, I think I mentioned that too. And I was talking about like, that feeling that was like the passion, the that passion, the feeling of that feeling of being in the moment. Crush on a fucking freestyle, just getting being able to get ahead of yourself and like that feeling of being on fire or like just watching yourself. Fuck it. This. Fucking is getting here, bro. These are the chapters. And it's it's like, oh my God, this is crazy. Yeah, the rhyme schemes out of nothing. That's like the craziest part. I think it's awesome. But now I think that's transitioned into like I think that that's that was like the initial call. Like the, the I saying like the oh, I like that. I'm a pursue that. And then in the pursuit of that, that feeling has this. It's still the same. And I still feel that if I freestyle in the car or whatever, but it's also evolved into other facets of my life as well. So that like, bring me more, tell me to go forward towards that direction. And those things are like, yeah, like whenever we're, we're like in the studio and like, I already have the beat, I already have it done. And like, I'm recording the song and like, that's like a different feeling and like performing like, that's, that's a, that's like a different version of that same thing. Or whenever we're doing a podcast and we're fucking in the middle of a riff and we're killing shit, or like, we're on a funny fucking bender of like, jokes back and forth or a story that's funny. It's like, that's a great feeling, you know, saying and finding like a good clip and being able to cut together a good clip with some good little overlays. And I was like, oh, that's a good clip's a good feeling. You know? I was like, that's that. That same good feeling is this is the same initial passion that led me out of the fucking desert forward. It just looks different, I guess in other facets that was like a more musically specific facet. But I also feel it in working out. That was another big thing. It's like I'm I'll make some incorporate this into a part of my life too. When into a part of my day to day operation, week to week operation in this body thing. And that was another good, good feeling. And conquering that thing or being able to. Like see it, set it, go do it. And then I feel good about it. And then being able to progress through time to like a goal, it's like, okay, yeah, I put on fucking. I did that where I lost, I later I put on that weight or I did that, I hit that rep or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. Like that's it. Such a like yes I want to corporate that that thing. Yeah. That's part of the passion too. But then like specifically I guess that was also a pursuit that led to the idea of trying to be a personal trainer. Right? I was like, maybe I should do that, you know? So yeah. Me too. I felt that I sometimes. Right. Because it was I was real passionate about fitness, you know, helping people. Yeah for sure. Yeah. But it's crazy because now the thing that we're doing is like, content creators, like, we're gonna incorporate that too. It's like it's another facet, another branch of the tree. Yeah. November 38th. Nice, dude. It's better than you could have imagined, kid. It's far, way. Better than working in that office job. You to take. Holy shit. No. Same as if I took the promotion like. Now imagine if we made more money than you would have made. Taking that promotion, doing this shit instead, right? It starts to get fucked. But it starts to. Get, like, exponentially wild. And I think that's the that's the thing about exponential reality is that when you get that weird that first times for this way, it's just so weird. You're just like, oh my gosh, like, things are good, things are going my way. Like life is like, I don't know, not, not out to get me or like I'm not stuck. I guess that feeling is crazy. feelings like story almost, you know? Yeah. That's, we're all just living in our, like, headspace or, like, living in the result of our headspace. Like the feelings that we have in our emotions. And it's just such a feeling process, bro. I know we've mentioned that so many times where we get that from Big Sean, one of our foundational pillars of how to progress forward, what's happening here. You know, saying, who are your. Foundational pillars of what's happening here? It's like we have some good ones that have stood the test of time. Yeah, we've gotten to the place where all all I know is that I have to go with that feeling and like, that's when then I realize what he's talking about. You know what I'm saying. And then you start integrating that awareness of what he's talking about into the more nuanced part of your lives. And you just feel it, you know. Fucking palpable like temperature. Right. Fire. Yeah. You're pulling up stats. I got him. Let's go. 16 nominations. 16 Mr.. Mr. Smith outstanding drama series, outstanding lead actor in a drama series. Donald Glover. Come on. Outstanding lead actress in a Drama Series. my a lady. Yeah. Got it. Outstanding writer for a drama series Donald Glover. Come on. Outstanding music supervision. Outstanding stunt coordination for drama programing. Outstanding casting for a drama series. And that was their top seven. Those are the big ones. Those are the big ones dude. Come on bro. All right. And wrote it in it himself. Come on. He's fucking nasty. I told y'all in my college communications. Class back in 2011. This guy's got a fucking blow up dog. He's the craziest man on earth right now. He's cracked. And that's. I mean, all three. Grown for a reason for 30 Rock was acting in community. Childish Gambino just dropped camp just like. Anyways, a stand up comedian. Yep. It's like, bro, this guy's nuts. Then he proceeded to be more and more nuts. Yeah. Why are we so fascinated by that? Why? This is drawn. Just like that's it. That's the fucking it that I want to have. Yeah. If I could ever do anything I wanted to do that because he's doing all things. Yeah. You know, I'm saying Renaissance man. What a Hollywood buzz. I refuse to go back to not liking who I was. Come on. That was fundamental bars that I built my life around. I don't know where that came from. I don't know where that came from. Came out of my being. Came out of the depths of my soul. We're going through my code. And you came to a line that's just an audio file. It's like, what the hell is this? Yeah. Audio sample that lives in my DNA now. Yeah. I'm going to pass on to my children. Because I think I've seen that artist live in show in concert more times than I've seen anybody else. So why? What is it? If you're just looking at the stats in my life, you're like, well, what is this, disproportionate? This means something. Yeah. I'm saying it's like I was literally drawn. I was literally like, I just believed that there was something there that I thought was. This is worth a sacrifice of my time to go do. That's what I'm fascinated by, interested it. And my fan hood goes to this, my, like, I wanted to digest his music more than I wanted to digest other music. Even if I felt like the other. The music was definitely better, you know? Like it didn't matter because it was like what he stood for, what he represented was what I wanted to brand myself as. And identify with. Yeah. And I did that through fan hood you know. Yeah. Yeah bro. Fucking love that guy. Outstanding actor, outstanding writer. And that's you know we were talking about the culture like great writing. Good artistry is what fucking runs this shit. He's a great writer. Like that's that is awesome. He's fucking awesome. Yeah. It is so cool. Yeah. There's moments about that that are like. It's great. Yeah, I love it. I love the series. I thought it was amazing. Nice. I liked different episodes were themed differently. Like there's just one episode that sticks out in particular where it's like generally in one location, and I just like, got to the end of my thought, like halfway to three quarters way to the episode. I was like, oh man, like this can't they can't shoot the rest of the series like, through this format, like it's been it's been strange that this whole episode was in this format. And then it got to the end of the episode, and then they like, ended that format with the story. And I was just like, oh yeah, okay. And then the next episode was like, back to doing some other shit, you know? So I feel like it was a nice, like they wrote it so that each episode can be, like, enjoyable and palatable. And it's not like the same thing. You're not just watching one long car chase, you know? Okay. It's cool. It's so it's Mr. and Mrs. Smith, but Donald Glover's twist and I saying it's his twist because he's the one getting credit for the writing. So I don't really know if it was him. but it is now. It is now. that they take it's all relationships. Like the show isn't about them being like spies like the show. Mr. and Mrs. Smith, the concept is like a husband and wife are secret agents that at one point get turned against each other. That's, And then the nuance of them being secret agents in a suburban life is like the comedic twist, irony, the similarities between what it would be like if you and your husband and wife were actual killers, contract killers, but still had to play family. Like what? Where would the crossover be? You know, how would that play out? And I think that's what is enjoyable about that concept, but rather turning it into like, shoot em up action thriller with a bad guy. Maybe they come together. It's like more fixated on the the relationship aspect of like, being with somebody and living with somebody and, well, being in a relationships like and fighting with somebody, and it was good. It was like really good art. Like, I felt like me and, me and my girlfriend were both pretty moved by it, honestly. We were like, I could tell that we were both like, I love this guy, and I love this art. And I like, want, I want to like, like. And they reference a book in the movie called The Prophet. And I just was like, I wonder if the prophet is just a metaphor for the alchemists, because everybody she says it's her favorite book. And then he says that he's read it, but he didn't actually read that book. And then it comes up like later when somebody else is like, oh, yes. And then from The Prophet, and then she's like, I love that book. A little, and he's all like, oh yeah, you love that book. It's like, I thought you read it. And he's like, I never read that book. It's. It's the whole thing. It's hilarious. Right? It's good writing, right. And then I thought it was The Alchemist. And then we both wanted to read The Alchemist, because we just wanted to keep that show with the somehow, you know what I'm saying? Like we were. We felt for that side. That's good. Yeah. That's good art. Come on. Yeah, bro. What what we what do we want in this life. Bro? That's really, that's one of the things that I want. I just love waking up early, working my fucking ass off, getting home or, you know, working at home. If I'm. If I'm at home, I'm still working. What the fuck ever. If I get to a certain point in the night where it's like evening time, okay, we're going to start winding down in some food, enjoying good art. That's what the fuck I love to do. Yeah, that's gotta be that. That's why I fucking. I love it so much. I love it so much. Opportunity to Donald Trump. I love it that much. It's that good. I love it's huge. You can't find big a love. Many men with that the police can't hear you. With the. Yeah. It's my favorite thing to do in the world. watching. Some good dude watching, Your Honor was amazing. Watching Breaking. Bad. I felt bad last weekend because I was just like. So, are we going back to Cassidy and movies any time soon? But usually the movies. I hate to be that guy, but, Sometimes on that, like Sunday, especially like I'm trying to land this plane with some nice food and a great piece of art, but. And Mr.. Mrs. Smith did that for me. Perfect. It's. We love. It. We saved the last episode. Had a nice meal. I could watch the last episode. Yes, yes. You gotta give it its attention. We I give it its due. Yeah. And be fully present for this last episode. But that's how ritualistic life gets when you're, like, trying to. Yeah, I can't start a Kickstarter because she's not sent down yet. Yeah. No. Yeah. We're not ready. She can't sit down there because. The moments that ready. Somebody. That's the that's the not ready. We're not ready. We need the. We gotta we gotta turn the thing on. He's like move the chips. Okay, I think we're ready. Sneezes damn. Kleenex is when you takes. Clorox because. Because it feels like I was sitting there I was like I just want to eat. Was of a. But we're just we're humans. We're so funny. We love it. But dude, yeah, I've realized that's one thing I love to do, bro. If I. Could just love. Watching Game of Thrones or a good fucking piece of art that someone wrote like, man, this is great writing. If it's great writing, it'll hit you. I guess everyone has their own interpretation of what's good writing, I guess. What else has been on lately? The Olympics. The Olympics are on. I don't really see much. I've just laughed at some of the stats. Some of the scores. Yeah, College fucking Olympics. Going off we went 100 USA 100 meter dash. I don't know. One of my. Nose. We did. Yeah. Oh really? That's fire. Yeah. Was it the young kid? I don't know. I think his name was Noah Lyles. Oh yeah. I want to say man in the world. Yeah. Officially. I think you're saying both got upset. Someone got upset about himself. Clips of that. But apparently if you win the 100 meter dash. You are the fastest man in the. World. Yeah, you shouldn't. You should have competed if you're faster. Yeah. You saying you think you beat him like right now? Let's go. Like, dude, I want to see Usain Bolt. Tyree kill this guy Noah Lyles. Alas. Who else do we got? Wasn't even close. Devon. Okay, get him out here. I take get him out there. Come on. We'll take a lot of the Miami Dolphins offense. Like four. Players. There's definitely someone right a 4 to 1 I believe you're worthy. There it is. Yeah. He's worthy. Yeah. He's worthy. He's worthy. Dude. He was the rookie for Texas. And I just saw like worthy flying across my Instagram screen making a one handed catch for a turd that was like, like save. Set his phone background. Just it's just his name just hit so hard. Yeah. The. they all dropped in that boy. Yeah. Yeah, the Chiefs are. They're just. Villains. He ran. What? Yeah, he got drafted. By who? I think. My God, they really. They're looking for that piece. Yeah, well, Tyree left a hole, but. They still got two chips back to back. Give a fuck. What are we talking about? What are we talking about? What hole? Okay, well they're fine. Yeah, that's a banana sandwich. You know, they say this kid 4214. With a running back. Dude Pacheco. For the last two years. Pitches. But he's not like, put checker. How come I can't play him in fantasy football? He's inconsistent. That doesn't translate. This man fucking doesn't. Trent. The running. Back is like the running back game is soft or they don't use it or whatever the fuck it is. Know what it is. It's because it's weird. Because I had and I'm in another league where I have Patty Mahomes and he doesn't. Score a whole lot of points sometimes, you know. But they win games. That's the thing with them is they fucking win. Yeah. When it matters. Like when it comes down to it, they can fucking play with anybody. They can win on any given Sunday. I don't give a fuck what the situation is, what the spread is, where they're playing. They play with anybody anytime, especially if it's in the playoffs in like the Super Bowl. Like obviously they fucking ball out. They've won three now right. Yeah the one three the 140 Niners. The loss of the bucks. They didn't make it. Beat the Eagles. Beat the 40 Niners again. So he's got three damn bitches. And he's been there four times at the last five years I think maybe four I lost six. Whatever the math is he's fucking ball it. They could whoop but he's not he's not putting up the same numbers without Tyreek. Like he's not balling out of control. Fantasy football points. Wise yes I was like damn it. He's not. Killing it. He's not fucking. He would have like 2020 points pretty consistently maybe like 30. But sometimes you may have like 1519. Yeah 14. Like what the fuck. Are you doing this. Again. Dubs this. but that's not worthy of a first round pick. No it's it's it's crazy. It's it's I've realized that with them they just win this win. Yeah. Then I don't really care about stats. Don't give a fuck this way. Also ultimately football is I mean, if your gameplan worked on every play, the you would score like a billion points. But you, you. Practice and think that your gameplan is going to work. So all that happens is stuff gets in the way of your plan working. But like their talent level and their plan does work against anybody. So that's why like in the fourth quarter or the witching hour or whatever the fuck it is, they're just like, boom, okay, we're driving down the field. Never scoring. We're winning. It's like, it's just crazy. But midway through the third quarter, it's like, oh shit. Like there goes the tides, there they there they go a turnin. Yeah. So like boom touchdown boom fumble boom touchdown. Oh shit. Different game. Now I don't know how they do that with the where's I come from that winter energy that winter spirit. Maybe they're just like more probably aligned in their fucking training camp or their locker room or whatever. I don't know, but they're a crazy team. He's a crazy individual that my focus crazy. Patty Mahomes shout out my dog. Lubbock, Texas Texas Tech Raiders. Wash out study winning. So a thing. Like some people do if. You go up like pulling. In hill pretty sure did. That's so I hate road thinking grow rich. But now I'm going to read them. I've read that book people say straight about. That's what that's one of the pillars. That's. Interesting. That's one of the pillars. A book about winning. Yes. Like winning in business. Winning in sports. Winning in Tony Robbins got to the same thing. But those people Jim Rohn those motherfuckers. But yeah we're gonna say steady winning. When you go up on someone real bad there's something in their spirit that's like not having this and they're just waiting for their moment to start having their way, lash back, scoring their points, like. And then if they have the skill to actually compete and come back, like just sometimes it's just like game flow and things happen and like people go up or I don't know, you know, but it's just crazy how like the flow of the game is like just something that. So where you can predict like, witching hour where like usually on average, this is where stuff gets bananas. This is where shit happens. Yeah. That's like what is the predictor of that. Yeah. Maybe just I don't know. Story stories in general get really weird halfway through the third quarter. Maybe we know or maybe I guess we've watched enough stories and have enough statistical data to look and see how many points have been scored in every quarter of every game has ever been played. And then like probably have the most points scored in like the fourth quarter or like the fourth quarter. And it puts a little bit extra, you know, it's like that's where the fucking points. That's where the game is won, ladies and gentlemen. Like it's a lot about the human spirit. Because we know it's coming. We know it's coming to a close. But like I got a ball out, kid. Yeah, leave it all out there, kid, I gotta go. They're going to beat us. Yeah, yeah. first. Just trying to figure each other out, like. All right, here we go. But. And it's going to come to an end, okay? Shit, I got fucking. We gotta. We gotta make it happen. We gotta make it happen. Desperation mode that I'll do anything. Mode. It's like I can run through this. Motherfucker, right? Yeah. I gotta make a play. Yeah, I gotta make a play, kid. I gotta do the impossible right now. Task kept asking yourself what the impossible? Like, legitimately. It's like. I mean, I'm fucking do something crazy right now. I'm. I'm about to go nuts. Yeah, let's do some ham is where that comes from. There was like, yeah. The one who's able to chase away all the snakes or kill the dragon or do the impossible thing. It's like, wow, he fucking did it. It's a whole bunch of the Coliseum full of people who think they could do that. All play against each other. Yeah, you love it. We love it so much. We fucking love it. Coming back. It's like killing a lion. Back in the day in the Coliseum. That was an impossible thing. The fucking bravest men out there with so swords trying to kill tigers and shit. And we love watching it. Oh, I'm sure we loved it. There was a shit. There was on TV. And the fuck else are we going to do to go watch? This was all we were talking about to. Duke it out. Yeah, yeah. We're in jerseys and shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Supporting your fucking champion, bro. Yeah, I like what he stands for. I like what he talks about. Like the way he carries himself. Like the way he fights. Whatever, dude. It got to a point where that was the most influential thing in the world. Yeah. Game of Thrones makes me like. Man, I go. That'd be a crazy time to live in, bro. We live in Savage shit. Oh, I'd be on some shit. We'd be on some shit. I don't think we'd ever talk. We just be working, waking up early as fuck, doing our work. Do whatever the fuck we had to do. Making our name, making our house fucking the legacy. Legacy. So yeah, that's what the fuck I'm trying to aim. I change with the name of the book. Right? Same shit. Just all the externals are a little bit different. It's like, right. You're drawn to that representation. What is it representing? You know what I'm saying? So what you're trying to do. Yeah. Right way to be because like, there's so many different characters in life, they all exhibit different qualities. It's like, how do I how what do I think's the right? How do I identify with and why? And what do I you know what I'm saying? It's a great so good. The character is the main character's fucking badass until it ends its ending. I've only seen the last season, the last two seasons, like one time because I wanted to wait. But George still has not come out with those books yet. I keep him as a status like he. I think we looked it up the other day. He started the first Game of Thrones book. The first book, like Game of Thrones Song of Ice and Fire, 1997 1997. Why is he okay? Wasn't even really a thing. You had to think about it. Yeah, that's the first book. It was so 1997 three. The last book. The last book, the the seven in the series. The fifth book is the most recent one to date that book was released. I want to say I don't remember. I know, I know, I've looked it up in the past. I wanna say it's like 2008, 2010 somewhere in that ballpark. But it's like, bro, it's 2024 date. Like. You're not gonna finish that. Like, what do you what do you do? I know he's writing a whole bunch of other shit. I'm sure for other video games or for other story screenplays or shows, whatever he's doing. But it's just like, bruh, you have to finish this. You have to finish this thing. It's a move, bro. It's a it's it's it's a fucking play. Like, I think he's gonna ride the wave until it literally gets to the very, very bottom. Like you got like two TV shows. And they're doing phenomenal. Yeah, I'm. Rewatching Game of Thrones. It's great. And then like, we're gonna watch Game of Dragon or whatever. House of Dragons after this. Hey, can multiple TV shows from a book you wrote in 97. 97 was what? So yeah, whatever that. Good of writing. Whatever. Plan or vision he had for that shit when he was writing it? It's like all coming to fruition, much like someone who would write a book about all that shit probably would go about his house and his legacy. You know what I'm saying? So I think the final plot twist, he's just saving them off. Like he just saved them on a fucking plot twist, you know? Which would be the final book? Yeah, he's in a he says some crazy shit because there's definitely gets to a point in the Game of Thrones show, which is the books. It's like the first book, first season are good, like in sync with each other. Second book, second season, third book is like the third and fourth season. And then the fourth book in the fifth book are like the next like five, six, seven, five, six and seven ish. But like once it gets into like six and plus it starts getting into, like the unknown territory of like, what the fuck? The actual story is going to be. It's like. That's. It starts getting wonky because there's, there's, there's things, there's characters and there's themes and like the sync are not synchronicities, but the alignment is not there anymore. So now they're telling their own story. I've, I've had to accept the show as a different entity. I was like, okay, the show is a different thing now. But the book that's going to have, because the ending is not great for the show, it doesn't make a whole lot. I guess it's okay. It's whatever. I accept it, it's fine. It's fine, it's fine. I think it's amazing. It's fine. It's not Breaking Bad, it is not Breaking Bad, but it's fine. But I think the ending of his actual writing of the books, that's going to be, I think, fire. Fire, actually fire like it could be the crazy story of all time. Yeah. But we're just waiting. I think the last time I looked it up, who said it was coming out? Maybe 20, 25. Wow. He's still pushing it. Give a fuck. Or on his. Timeline. I'll release it when I release it. I don't know, he's got to be pushing 80 plus of. He's got to be pushing 80. Bro. I hope I'm wrong. I'm gonna look it up real quick. But I think he's an older gentleman. For all you're playing with fire here. Play with him RIP of does it not play. With his emotions I sure I think that he probably has a copy ready to go if anything were to. Happen because he has two books left him. He still has six and seven to go. That's he's 75. Maybe 80 was a predictor. Maybe it'll come out, maybe. When he hits, when he hits 79, 80, he he'll drop. Hopefully both of them by that time. Dude. At least one. One comes out. My goodness. At least one of them bro. I mean he was born September 20th last time. Let's go. Can you imagine? In a world where there's still a Harry Potter book yet to come out, right? That would be fucking obvious. And then be fucking wild. Like, dude. He's kind of a genius. Harry Potter came and went and came back and then went away, and then we brought it back, and now it's pretty gone. Yeah. The mythical beasts and where to find them and whatever else. The fucking secrets of Dumbledore, whatever the fuck, whatever else is going on. But when he drops that book just about to blow up again, everyone's gonna start rewatching that shit. Like. Oh yeah, I need to get ready for. This. I want it back. He's gonna run it. Yeah, he maybe he's a genius. Maybe he saw. How good it was. Maybe he knew how good it was. He probably knew how good it was at the book, too, bro. It's too great. It's so good. He's like, oh, this is some shit. Like a fucking. These are some bars. I'm dropping bars on them pussies right now. And like, I could see book three and four right now. My mind. Okay, I can, I can see how I'm going to, I can, I can land this plane hopefully, hopefully he's on that train of thought. Maybe he's not. He's just like out of inspiration. Dude, that hey, like a bullet in my chest. Like, if you really knew how good your idea was, how patient would you be with it? How much would you scale it? How much would you be willing to wait? Yeah, because Lord knows when he drops out. Six book. It's going to be fucking. It's going to enter the meta like that. Everyone's we're talking about it. It's like I can finally drop this fucking let's see what happens. Because when you see if it's like how. Much of it lines up, like, what the fuck. Happens for real? I've always had that feeling. I was like, oh my God, they're going to get ahead of the books. Being in college thinking about this, like they're gonna get ahead of the books and it's going to go to shit. I don't want to watch. I want to be part of it. I won't, I refuse. Yeah. I eventually caved in like ten years later or whatever, however long it was. Because it's not his writing. So George R.R. Martin's ideas. That. He's a part of the show towards the end? Yeah, I think he was helping. I think he was helping. The helping write an I'll turn it off time, right? Yeah. Or helping validate some things or helping, I don't know, I don't know the exact extent or the what what his input was or the final decisions. Who made the final decisions to write what it, what they wrote, how the characters progressed and how things played out. But I all I know is that when that shit comes out, it's going to be cool. It's going to be crazy. Does it me another one? Hopefully they both come out soon. It's taken this long. He's in a way his sweet ass time. Hopefully he does pass. For a love of God, George, take care of yourself. Do not pass for you. Finish writing these books. You better have a in-house doctor. Come on, come on. Golly. So long. Very passionate suggestion. Level 40. You're pretty much at that now. Yeah. When I when I want a. Watered down rapper down, it's been so really guys. It's a good one since. It's a great life. Guys and girls. Whoever whomever. Woke up this morning had a lift. And I felt. Like so positive. I feel so great. I have to it's no question. It's no question, no question. Thank God we can get there. You can have that much conviction. If I can make it make that should happen. That's so worth it. So worth it. It's fucking worth it. Subscribe. Like, comment, share all that fun stuff. We'll see you all. On the flip side, on the other side of the pillow, when the sun rises again. 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