Episode #58

On this Episode of The MJ38 Show (Podcast):

Matthew and Justin talk about Fasting, Gross Stuff, and Lying

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I'll see you in the morning. And then he was talking to me. And I was just like, dying. Like my head was screaming. I was really tired. My legs were hurting. You don't get much sleep the night before either. No I didn't. Right. And so I kind of woke up with a headache and then, like, was able to, like, shower, listen to music, put on the suit, get myself in that position to not to be feeling good. And then I got through the work shift. But then like when I got out, it was, like I had a headache again. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And then. Long day. Wanted to get lifted. And I just text Julian, like. And I'm not even. I don't even want to, like, ask him. Let's go lift. I'm just like, hey, bro, what are you up to? You know. Was it a feeler? Just a just a feeler. It's the. Lightest feel. Like it's the lightest of feelers. It's a caress. It's. And he just. Fucking calls me back and he's like, sup bro? Just get out of work. What are you doing? And I'm like, just get out of work. Do you have to work out today? It's like, I didn't I didn't didn't get to work. I haven't worked on a couple days. I actually really need one that's like. what day, what do you do for legs? I'm like, oh my God. Okay. But the call, the call. It was like every time I was just like, hey, it's like, yes, yes, yes, yes, I'll see you there. And I was like, all right. On the way. I'll see you in a little bit. Yeah. All right, let's go. Let's get a squat rack. I'll meet you. The squat rack? Yeah, right. I feel like, That's my dog. That's my dog. I appreciate him so much. It's such a great influence. That's fucking lit. Yeah. It's awesome. And then. Yeah. Did. You didn't eat the whole day? No, I don't think so. I'm trying to think if it's just like before I left. But the thing was just like, no, I know, I know, I didn't eat before I left because I got to work and I was like, today is going to kind of soak because I didn't eat anything. I usually make eggs in the morning, and then I usually like hummus and salami before I leave or like, but I'll get a rotisserie chicken. I'll have something, you know, so we'll have something like our I go to snacks or like meals, you know. Yeah. Again, like seasons or phases of doing certain types of meals. Sometimes you stop doing it for whatever reason. Though, it's for sure. Yeah. Oh, really? On the hummus kick right now? Yeah, yeah. I'll open your hummus. Right. Well, it's dying out, dude. We can get into that. Okay, but. Let me finish the Jewish story. But yes, I'll open your hummus is the one. If you're going to buy anyone. It just what I realize is that what they make the hummus with must be different hummus to hummus. Because each hummus flavor taste and feels like chickpeas. Yeah, but it must be like. Because I guess they emulsify the chickpeas. So I imagine, like, hummus must be, like 50% almost if I chickpea and like 50% the other stuff. But like, not literally like, like weight wise of the ingredients inside the compound, but like the thing that makes it the flavor of it because like, garlic hummus and roasted red pepper hummus are not cousins. They're not they're different families. Really? Yeah. You would think they're very similar. You would think that's what I mean. Maybe not, but that's what I thought. Okay. And then like each one is just like really different than the other one okay. So jalapeno hummus is like really different than garlic hummus. And I just think it's like steer like the texture, the way it hits your palate, the aftertaste. all of it. You finish it. Seriously though, like the. Garlic's, not even the garlic's like decent. It's like be. And then there's a lot of C's. Like a ton of C's. Not even a lot of A's I haven't. There's like nothing. It's like, beat it. It's classic couple. Yeah. And I've tried there's maybe like seven flavors you could try. Okay. Jalapenos number one far away. Damn. Yeah. But yeah we will go to those kind of cycles of eating different foods. But we need, we need, we need to go to, you know, it's easy to just I can go to you know, how much time. What do. You do for go to. Right sandwich. You know what I'm saying? Typically like a turkey sandwich or a peanut butter jelly sandwich or like a peanut butter Nutella sandwich. Did I. Almost. Or chicken salad sandwich. Oh that's cash. Yeah. Those are also those are like my top four. Like doesn't it's like there's in there that's two sandwiches. You know that the salad that they. Definitely get the job done and they're portable. Eat them in the car. It's good to go. That's a life hack. That's a. Life hack I don't. Think you should just gloss over. That. That's a big. One. That's a big plus. The portability, mobility. Eating your lunch while you're driving somewhere saves you a lunch. And saves you, like 30 minutes potentially. Or who knows how long in the in the grand scheme of things, right? It could be an hour. It saves you. Yeah. I, when I'm eating, sometimes I'm. I get relieved knowing I'm getting to the end of my plate because, like, my brain, I don't know if I don't know if I have some ADHD or maybe, like, OCD, maybe both. I don't know or neither. But like. Well, I don't want to be doing this anymore. So I start to I'm like, okay, I'm about to be able to like throw this away, wash my hands of it. Literally continue my life and go back on my narrative. Because, like, the pit stops kind of annoying, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Also sometimes, like, I don't want to take the load off either. You have to like, kind of let go of everything, but like, okay, now, now I'm eating lunch. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a big the big portion of your time every we have to eat every day. I remember whenever I was experimenting with and getting into intermittent fasting, I started to realize how much food like kind of dictates your entire daily schedule. You know, because I would just not eat for 16 hours at a time. Sometimes I would push it for like 18 to like 20 and not eat and just fucking when that window came out, slam everything I could for that window. But to me, the thing about that that's so interesting is I know what it's like to be in a place with your relationship with food and when you eat and what you eat that that sounds like impossible. It's like bonkers. Like there's no way I could, like, I get so hungry and I crave the food and to just be, like, excited to push it off. That's bananas. That's like a psychopath. It's crazy. Behavior. How do you transition from that place where it's like, that's an impossible task, a dreadful chore to like, you know, you're in the middle of it and engaged with it and you like to do it. This is going to start with what you can do. You know, I guess ideally the split for intermittent fasting is 16, eight, 16 hours of not eating and eight hours of a window where in which you can eat your total daily caloric out or whatever, input, whatever your allotted calories are per day that you kind of are experimenting with to see how how your body responds. I remember doing that just like having okay, I'm trying to have 3000 a day, or I'm trying to have 2800 a day or whatever it would be, and just messing with that. But then just to get all those calories in in that window. But and it's, it's hard. It's a long time for sure. So maybe starting with at least the idea of 12 hours, I guess. Also, there was some, drinking coffee because you can have black coffee and you can have like, tea. It is just calories. Zero calories. Yeah, yeah. Zero calories. So sometimes a black coffee would be nice, you know, just to put something in your stomach. It's not water. It's drinking a lot of water. I mean, we start with 12 hours, 14 hours. Work your way up, try to implement it into your schedule beforehand and see how you want to break your fast and what you're going to eat. Plot everything out. It also really helps because I had a a work schedule that was coincided and allowed that schedule, eating schedule. So to be all right, I wouldn't eat at work because I would get to work super early. I, I would be fasting until pretty much I got home. Really? Yeah, I know, and maybe I'd break my fast. Probably around, I guess. What was I doing? Maybe like 11 to 7 or 12 to 8 maybe is where I was breaking my fast 1 to 9 somewhere around there. Maybe actually, because I would probably break my fast at work was lunch or whatever we were doing for lunch, and head home and then eat snacks throughout

the day, have dinner, and then be done around 8 to 9: 7:40

00. And it's not eat until lunch at work the next day, right? So that that work schedule really made it kind of easy to implement it into my life in that way, because I couldn't imagine not doing them like a server schedule. Right. That's it's rough. Yeah. Depending on what your hours are. Well, I had I don't know, I consider. Do you kind of want it first and foremost. Got a fucking want it. There we go. That's it. If you want it bad enough, you'll work it. If you work it, you'll win it. And I agree with you. We shared on a previous podcast about the Oatmeal cream pie story. That was a moment of like, well, I think sometimes maybe if you don't want it bad enough, you have to, like, hit a rock bottom somewhere, or like, there has to be like. Enough is enough moment. Yeah, exactly. And so I've been in the place where, you know, you're like, that's just crazy, you know what I'm saying? And food is food. I got to eat. I literally have to do this. Yeah, I'm sure dieting. I could eat healthier foods. Who couldn't, you know? But anyways, you can get there systematically. Helps too. If you're like, I have a plan, I'm going to eat like I'm going to wake up, I'm going to do this, this, this, go to work, eat on my lunch, and then I won't eat again until I get back to lunch or dinner. So like, I just got to get to dinner. When I get to dinner, then I'll eat everything. I'll be good. And then I'll go to bed around ten, which is one of my window starts. And then all I got to do is just get back to dinner. So like if you have a game plan around what sounds like a hard thing, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. Helps a lot. Scope out the battlefield. Right. Trying to maybe implement the sleep also to right what's on window I need to try to knock out I get knocked out eight of these hours. Have I to sleep sleep for half of them. So now I'm really only awake not eating for eight hours. Right. I'm sleeping for eight hours, not eating for eight hours and then eating for eight hours. So it's not not a crazy, crazy, crazy ask. I think the benefits are. The benefits are there, bro. I'm sure you can do your own research, whatever, but I've seen and personally my own experience as well. I definitely helps helps, at least at the very least limit the amount of calories you take in like day to day. And then also fasting has its own benefits. It has like the physical benefits, allowing your body to not be digesting food for a long time, or because you're if you're always snacking, then you're always pushing some through your system. But if you just have like a system reset more or less almost where there's nothing going on for 16, 18, I'm done 24 hour fast before. And like I know that there's definitely health benefits associated. And because in that time your body is able to discard some of the old damaged cells and biological shit that's going on within your body right at that molecular level, or like at that cellular level, it discards all some old shit that's damaged and not working properly, and then it replaces it with fresh, new, like, recycles like like our body does, you know, just grows new hair just grows new whatever. Right. And then whenever you're fasted, it allows your body to like, do that at a more efficient, more productive level. I guess naturally our bodies just heal itself. They're they're fucking healing machines. Yeah, I do that. I get sick sometimes. If I get sick, I'll just not eat for like a day. Really. I'm trying to get my body on a reset. Let it do its thing. No, it knows what to do. I ain't killing your immune system. That's it. Dude, I don't think anybody is hardly doing that. It's an interesting theory, and I'm not saying you're wrong at all. I fuck with. It. Yeah, I think you're right. That's why fasting works, right? I think so. Yeah, I think there there are definitely benefits for sure. I know them first, like I've done it and then I've seen research about it as well. It's like subjective and objective. I have things to like check both boxes. Yeah, this is true. Or at least for me, right. But yeah, you're saying that you've fasted for I don't know, I guess I was saying also there's like the physical benefits I just talking about, but then also there's like I think you do you get to a wavy place when we definite we're using that terminology back in our mid 20s, early 20s talking about, you know, wavy and feeling like the, the walls of reality start to meld with the like walls of spirituality and abstract thought. Right. Those two different places start to collide and mix and mold together. It's like, oh, it's getting wavy. So if you don't eat, because I've experienced that as well, going on like a 24 hour fast, I forgot I'm going to not eat today, not start or eat dinner the night before, finish eating around nine or whatever. Eight and just don't eat until dinner the next day. It's 24 damn thing straight. And then towards the end of the 24 you get a little wavy. Same thing. Like if you go, if you don't sleep, if you're like sleep deprived and you fast like those are two methodologies to experience that like psychedelic state, you know. Yeah. Whereas not I was like naturally going on in our own bodies. We can kind of just like get ourselves there. It's wild. What is that I guess I guess is an endogenous hormone that gets released through those processes. I'm not sure it was. Triggers in some of the DMT is naturally occurring in us. That's what I'm thinking right. Something have some of the releases or. Yeah some, some of the some reaction takes place where we get that like whoa what the fuck. What is this place? What the hell's happening? Who am I? But yeah. So you were kind of there the other day. I got any yesterday. Oh, maybe that does explain why I feel so wavy to. Actually, I like talking about it. That's going to be trippin. but you're like, sleep deprived. You know, I love to sleep. And then. The fasting. I'll get you there. Yeah. It's like, whoa. So this 24 hour fast was like a concept that my boss had brought into my scope, because right around the time I was having, like, stomach issues, he was doing a 24 hour fast, just based on a recommendation from a podcast he listened to. And then he was like, yo, you should try this as my help. You. And I was kind of like in that space where I was like, like really difficult to do. It's hard as a server because, like, I need some energy here and I be so hungry at work by the time, like, if I could get to work without eating, it'd be like starving. And then you see, like a crab cake and be like, oh baby. I feel good now, Bubba. I'm back. Charged up. Yeah, kind of sucks or whatever. There's such a positive ramification for just eating a little bit of food in that moment because, like, I'm performing every second, so I know whenever, like, dude, sometimes just literally like one by the food, you're like, oh, I feel so much better. Yeah, it's crazy dude. You can do that. Food. Food is. Awesome. Like water. Take some time to hydrate you. You know, sleep's like, not something you could just grab out of the air and put in you. Yeah, yeah, I'll take it on the go. All right. But our food is bull. But anyways, so I kind of neglected to, like, follow up on this 24 hour fast, you know, because. I don't know, I don't know, I guess I just didn't ultimately think that it would fix my problem, and I wasn't fully committing to it or wanting it or like, just like, how would I try that later this week? Or I need to do that happen and I'm going to do that. Let me see if I can do it, but not really doing it. But then it like happened to me. Like I just like accidentally fasted for 24 hours. And then I feel different today. Like I feel like some of that stomach stuff I was dealing with, just like, not I'm not dealing with it today, which is weird. Yeah. Right. Where body does that, bro? Our bodies are intelligent. They're like alive, you know, it's preparing itself, going your shit pumping. Yeah, it's doing it all for you. I'm just sitting in it, observing. It's nice. Good job buddy. Thank God. Where'd it go, buddy? Do you think so? Yeah. I think there might be some merit to that idea of the 24 hour fasts. Or, like, that's kind of my go to. To get over being. Part of my sick remedy. Yeah, yeah. At least trying it, you know, just drinking water, getting some good, good rest. Of course it's trying to sleep so I can sleep. Sleep and drink water and know that's always step one. Step one for sure. And we'll take it from that. I like to. Believe in the body's abilities. I'm into it. I think you should try it. If if you're at a place where you're like, I'd like a remedy for this. And maybe the next step is going to the doctor, but you don't know if you need to go to the doctor for you. You could just try to fast for 24 hours and see if that, like, helps your issue. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Chronic chronic stomach pain as here's a conspiracy theory we can get into. Okay, I think the last round of Covid transferred from just being, Well, initially it was like, fuck with the first round of Covid that gave you the fever and it made it hard to breathe, and then it made it like difficult to you. Can you lose your sense of smell as a symptom? Yeah, yeah. And then it kind of evolved into more of, like sinus and like congestion issue with like a cough attached to it. And I don't really think that that cough was really attached to it so much the first time that Covid was around. and this is like, I don't know when I'm thinking about this, maybe like a year ago, Covid, I remember everybody getting sick again. And like when you were sick at the beginning of working at the previous employer and, you couldn't talk because your throat was really destroyed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I thought that might have been a little bit of Covid symptoms, you know, and then now then I think what happened is it went from just, like, fevers to, like a throat sinus thing to like a stomach thing because I think a lot of people are having stomach issues around the world in the last like six months, more so than maybe they were in like the past two years. And that could be just like my little tiny slice. And so we're getting this. But it's like, I have just heard of a lot of people having like, just stomach problems, like, stomach cramps, diarrhea. Okay, I'll just say it. A lot of proud of the podcast. But here's. The thing. Here's why it's a conspiracy. People don't want to go around saying, dude, if I've been having diarrhea for like two weeks, I know what to do about it. You know? And because people have so much shame about. Talking about their diarrhea. they, you see professionals, diarrhea expert. Dude, I was having the runs for, like, a month. Golly, I know my stomach was destroyed, like, explosive. Dude. Not solid. Or just. Here's the thing. It was one or the other. It was. Stomach's exploding with fireworks, and nothing will come out. Just sitting there like, please, God, give me some relief to, like, fall on Niagara Falls. Just let it fly. Better Jiminy Christmas, Jiminy Christmas. This is why it might be. Worth it to do it 24 hour fast. You know what I'm saying? My help. Yeah, it couldn't hurt. We're talking about what would make it worth it to do this thing like when I was experiencing that for, like, 30 days, I was like, yo, something's not right here. Like, not cool, not cool. I don't know what what that could have been, you know? But then I felt like other people were also having stomach issues because when I would be vulnerable enough to talk to people about, man, I'm really struggling with like some stomach issues right now. They'd be like, man, a couple weeks ago, I really, like, had a bad run of diarrhea and a lie. Like it was tough. And I just experienced that with so many people that I would be. Like, yo, I think something's going. On here. And like, we're not talking. About it like conspiracy, mask conspiracy. It's a massive conspiracy. The poison in us. Dude, I honestly in poison. I thought maybe at the place that we were working at, maybe we got poisoned for a little bit. What? Because, like, all hand, I thought at first my first conspiracy thought was an angry ex-employee. Oh, wow. Who was really displeased with the way the things were going on and the vibe and the the culture. And he was counterculture, like a counterculture terrorist. And you know how, like, there's someone bombed like Oklahoma because they were like a counterculture, nihilistic person? I felt like that happened with. Us, but. Potentially because also, it was weird. Every time I told someone that my stomach, I was like, I have some problems for like a month. People in authority positions would be like, what's going on? Are you okay? Describe my symptoms. I'd be like, yeah. You know, it feels like I got poisoned. Yeah, I don't know. But, you know. I do think that there. Are actual food poisoning. Yeah. I think that there are some conspiracies out there. I don't know if we actually got poisoned, I think. I don't think that's an actual conspiracy. It's just something I wondered about for a while. Okay. Because it did seem. I don't. Think so. Maybe. I don't think so, I doubt it. Here's the thing is, I think that it's, stress. Stress can present itself as, stomach pain. As a tough shit. Stress personified. It's the runs. That's just what is. Yeah. This. It could be. Like, just stomach issues, like, this right here. anxiety and dread is. cheese. Well, geez. So much so that I think your brain could give you actual stomach problems. Which, I mean, I think it's a small friend. This is cousin. That's a mosquito. It's a little spider from. What I can tell. I've got two flies and one mosquito going on right now. That's the two flies right there I see. Same on the light. Bastards. Sorry. Guys. That's it. I hold the door open too long this morning or what? But I threw it open and I left it open, thinking you might be walking in because I'd hurt your car park. And then it got, like, to where it was. I was like, let me go ahead and close this. But in that time. Bugs are fucking annoying, bro. Fucking annoying. Who? I guess there are people like study bugs. They love books. They empathize with the bugs. A Bug's Life. They love bugs. I love that movie for Fuck bugs. They're annoying as hell. How do you. What do you do? What do you do here? How do you help me? Not help me? Like I don't need your help. But like, what do you contribute? Bees. I fuck with bees. I get that spiders have a use. Yeah, because I kill the fucking bugs. Justify your existence. Yeah. What do you do? Yeah. Some bugs are just annoying. I'm with you. You know. Dude, I think. What if I do? How do they benefit anyone? What do you do? How do you do it? What are you doing? You just fly around touching shit. Nature is a delicate balance. Okay, maybe. Shit needs touched to keep the balance. I so it must. There must be a certain amount of shit touching that needs to go on. This has to happen. Maybe it's for the reincarnation of shitty people. You get to be a shitty reincarnation of a thing that annoys everyone. To literally balance out life. Yeah. Just. Just to get slapped over and over again. Soul personified. Yeah. All your family just getting crushed, bro. Oh, this is not about. Cockroaches on the windows. And shit. You only live for like three weeks. Then you get fucking clapped on being. Clapped on, bro. But then it's over. Then you can come back as a butterfly or something. Until the next thing. Like a blade of grass, maybe like a leaf. Start small like an acorn. The fuck? This sounds like an insignificant spiritual, something neutral. Yeah, not a bug is bugs. Some bugs are annoying, but I guess there are some people who are into that kind of shit. Nobody likes bug pets. Nobody likes a cockroach. Nobody, bruh. Those are like Hitler. Oh, come back as a cockroach. The problem is you have to live as a cockroach forever. They don't die. until they're in my house. Yeah, right. Until they do me, they're fucking made it in. But by that time, I'm sure they're happy to go. Bro, I just, I don't know, I just talking about bugs reminded me of a story about when we were opening this previous employment, the starting to do all the preliminary work and get everything ordered like situated. Oh god. This is gone now. We were, before that we had like a run through, like, kind of practice investor dinner for, like, the investors, you know, and we were, like, working that event more or less. But it was at someone's house, I remember. Yeah, it was cool. But within that event, there was a Seinfeld esque moment that happened where we were just getting everything set up, a set up, the glassware plate. We're figuring out, like where we're going to have the dishes, food like what the sequence of events is, what's the menu, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then we just see a fucking. It's like a millipede or a centipede fucking just like one of those. It was like a red and like yellow legs, and it was like black and red ish, you know, like a predominantly black with, like, a red kind of like pomegranate color hue, like, faded into it looks scary shit. So with this big ass yellow. Leg, just like it's on the floor, how big was we're out there in the country, bro. I don't a country boy. Okay? It was like. It was a good foot. Foot? Plus, what the fuck foot. Plus how big? A half? Quarter size. Of course. That's what fucking. Girth. Good. The whole girthy. Was it? Yeah, I did, for the. It's a good it was a good like half dollar. Good golly. Half dollar to a. Quarter for. Sure. That's a country bug. That's a big booty. You know city slicking bug. That bug seen some stuff. You see that? It was, like, frightening. We couldn't. I didn't want to step on it. Paralyzed for a second. I was yeah, I was like, oh, shit. Hey, Hey, John, look at this. look at our friend we got over here. It's like, oh, shit. And then we ended up like, I guess because his house on the bottom of the baseboards, there's. I'm not sure exactly what what it is design wise. Maybe it's like some sort of thing to sweep trash into or sweep whatever into, I don't know, but he has, like, a little in his baseboards on the floor. There's like a compartment, almost like a door, a doorway, or like they kind of like a revolving door, almost. It looks like, or something. But yeah, just like kind of called in in there, Like, well. What? And you had to live. You couldn't get to it. It was in that bush. It's like, well, it's going to be interesting when he comes back out. In the middle of this dinner with these investors. I don't think we ever saw it. I think it ever came back out for when, like, from what I can't recall. I wonder if that bug is danger fucking. It looked like it was. Yeah. Right. Right. Like the black and yellow. Some of those are poisonous. I wonder there's a saying. I think that's more references. Yeah, yeah. And black friend Jack or something like that. Right. Yellow and black. Black and something. Red and yellow. Kill villain for sure. I think. Yellow and black. Friend of Jack. Yeah. There ain't no red on a safe snake in my opinion. I could be wrong. And what's that? What's that design? That's crazy. Yeah, I was wondering if. It looked poisonous. You know, it looks like you didn't want it on you. Yeah, but maybe that's just me. Maybe that's just me. Dude, when I was. Maybe it's just. Me. Pose you the question. I was going to be like, was it. Red and yellow? Like, I almost just. And then I had to be like, translate that thought to a listenable thought. And you took it straight back to where I. Started with it. That was weird for. Me mentally just now. Like, just like as a brain, but like. Yeah, no. Because there was a question there that you have asked which was like, do you think that like there's a design to these dangerous animals, like does nature do that? Does God do that? Right. To the point where we could like, identify. Matches your exterior, matches the interior or like the in the the capabilities of the potential like a poisonous spider looks like a poisonous spider. Just like. Oh shit, you don't want to fucking touch it. Yeah. Like understanding what black widows and brown recluses were when I was a kid, I was like, yo, watch out for that shit. So yeah. I see a spider. Thought, right? Yeah. I was like, shit, man, people just like, don't know, this is gonna be careful out there. They're gonna get you. Dude. And then when I was in eighth grade, my basketball coach, he had, like, been bitten by a brown recluse. And he had, like, he was a black dude, but he was like, maybe, 50% of his thigh to, like, 25% of his leg past his knee was all really, really black and like a little bit degenerative because he'd been bitten by a brown recluse and it like, fuck his leg up for real. I really out there in the. Country, that was one of the first times I was ever like, oh shit, that wasn't cap. No, it wasn't elementary school bullshit. Fuck. That's scary bro. Right? Because I remember getting bit or like waking up happened to me the other day, but I remember, like, I guess I guess it more so happened. Or maybe I was noticing it more so in, like in middle school, maybe when I was little younger. But I remember waking up sometimes and having like, little bites, you know? Yeah. It's like, well, spider bites. Yeah. And I was like, oh shit. That's weird. So like to have that be like a reality that you could fall into, it's like, oh my gosh, bugs are terrible. Kill them all. Kill, kill them all. That's destruction. Yeah, dude, I'm not here for that. Have you ever met somebody that like. Sorry. Sorry, bug. Lovers. I don't disagree with. You fucking weirdos. You seen the people that don't want to kill a bug? I'm that person sometimes. Oh, it was like a ladybug. Okay. But like it's cockroach. Oh, no. I got to go. Gotta fucking go. Die and burn. In hell, bitch. Wasp nest. Burn in hell. I'm spraying you down in the middle of the night. When your children are sleeping. You can fucking spray down, bruh. No remorse, no second thoughts. Geneva Convention for. A one, a whole. Can I waste a whole can. On one nest? I watch YouTube videos of people wasting a whole can on the nest in a sadistic way. Oh, God. Watch them die and be like, nice. Great work. I'm almost there with it. But not. No, not quite that level, I don't I those. Sorts of out, but I watch from. The mix in my humanity, mixing my humanity with it. But there's definitely a like, it's like, oh no, I had to kill that thing. Like, you know, I'm saying that has that has to be checked. Oh, it's like I'm, I'm killing these fucking bugs. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm fucking doing it for sure. Have you ever. Yeah, I guess it was the question you were saying was like, people who don't kill bugs or like, do. Yeah. Because it's so it's such a weird thing that I feel like I had to, you know, my girlfriend when we fucked up. Sorry. Maybe you. Kill bugs. Yeah. On site. On site. Squarespace. I'm inside. I'm inside. You're not inside. Done. But that's it. You don't pay right here, dog. Yeah. No, this is my domain on over there. Now, outside, I'm less likely to kill it like yesterday. Okay, I'm standing with Julian outside my the gym outside our cars. We break it down for a little bit, chop it up. And a big ass beetle walks by my foot to the point where I'm like, it's gross, you know what I'm saying? It's like you big enough, like, bigger than a half dollar sized to the point where I'm like, that thing's pretty. Gross, I gotta go. Yeah. You got to go. You're not a you're not a a beetle. I could just ride off into the the mess. You're not, in, you know, insignificant enough that I can let it go. But then I realize I'm like, I'm in a fucking parking lot. Got some girth on them. This is. I pulled that one out of the bag of words. I was like, oh, so I got one here. Fucking. Yeah. I was in. His domain. so bad. Wanted to just stomp that fucking thing. Dude was walking right by my footage for, like, you know, Ezekiel. Ezekiel probably just squirted guts everywhere. It would have been gutsy. Pretty big. The bigger the. Name. But, I, a little live. Because, like, I'm outside, so I'm saying that's my. Situation. Yeah, yeah, that's the the unwritten code that every man has to live by, right? Everybody has to live by. Like, unfortunately, if I'm eating dinner and I see a bug, I can't really eat my dinner until the thing is dead or I don't want to. I could, you know. Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't feel like it sucks whenever they're in, like, the corner and, like, I can't really get to the bug and it's like, sit there and watch and wait for it to kind of move where you just got to fucking make the move. Just like. And then if it, like, crawls behind something like it's there's no confirmed kill, you're like, oh my God. I'm kind of obsessed with that, right? Me too. I gotta kill this bug, bro. I need to see a body. Yeah, that's a high priority task. Everything else. Very medium priority compared to that. Get rid of it. Get rid of it. Yeah, I'm with you. So grab a chunk, grab gravity. Grab this. You bury the thing, dude. Yeah. That fucker. Paper towel. Like, just grab it. The paper. Yeah. Just fucking. Savage. Hit it with a bag and then pick up the corpse. I'll go. I'll do that. Easy money. Dude. All day with it. All day. We're like. Not really a cockroach, though, because that one's gonna die with a shoe. I need some distance separation. Yeah, you're right. It's a long race. Kill. that's a bow and arrow. Yeah, that's a bow and arrow. Yeah. You can't kill that with a melee. It's in distance. Yeah, but. But, I'm gonna kill the bug. What's the most. Effective tool to be killing these bugs with seasoning? Sometimes uncle. Is pretty good right. Up there in the power rankings. So sometimes I, like, would like to try to use a broom to get the extra distance. And it was not as effective sometimes. Yeah. You try slapping against the wall a couple times. Yeah, it was scurrying. Oh no, I like to start that. Stomp is money. Oh, it's on the floor. I know it's dying. I'm Mario Power or something. Double jump. Double jump down. Yeah. Hey, down a fucking hoover. Boom. Both feet full. Gather and jump like bomb. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Sorry about it. They cause panic with the women and children. Oh, instantly. Instant. Instantly. Like instant irrational panic. I think my fiancee is terrified. I guess we're transitioning into a slightly different subject. But of rats. Oh, they is in the same family. Oh, this is the worst. I guess ever. Listen to me. Sorry. I'm so pooping. Bugs and rats. What is different than our last voice? Good. Do it. So what's the potential? This one though? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. This is a this is for. I see a little redemption pod. We lost the plot through just abnormal paranormal. Not paranormal activity, but it's abnormal superstitious fucking unexplainable events that occurred. I had the file, went to sleep, woke up. The file was gone. Okay, this is how it goes sometimes. Yeah, like like. It was a great part. It was a great part. I guess we can talk about some of the stuff we talked about. There are like, kind of incorporate that. But yeah. Sorry about. These idea, these subjects in this. Polarizing the two ideas were. Yes. Sorry you getting this. Let's turn that down because I think yeah normally I have them on the opposite switches. Let's go. Yeah but no but I'm getting louder. This one from the fucking. She's terrified. Terrified of rats. Terrified like she's. She hurt. She was. So I figure up the other. Day, two days ago, whatever it was, I picked her up from work, and she's just like, babe, I'm I. I'm one of my worst fears happening right now. This is the terrible. This is terrible news. I was like, oh my God. Like, what's happening? You're not like, freaking freaking out. So like, I'm confused. So I'm like juxtaposed between how much I should be like, what's wrong? Yeah. I was like, what's going on? She's like, what do you think? Well, we're like, well, what do you think I'm talking about? It's like, what are we to get? We play games here. Yeah. I was like, I literally have no idea. Like, please tell me. It's like it's not freaking out. Or I could like put my anxiety in a box. So, like, we could be referring to, like. I'm on ten right. Now. Something terrible with your. Family happened or like, you know, say what I went to saying. Something awful just happened. But then she's like, what's my what's my worst fear in life? It's like rats. Speaking publicly. Is like rats. Like, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Newlyweds. Like ding ding ding, 20 points. Let's go. I think you guys, you went. Oh yeah, we crossed. We did a little couples game night a while ago. Oh yeah. Brandon's. Yeah. That's why I think murder. Squad of the murder squad. Out of the film. So rats. Number one answer. Easy. And she's like, yes. And I just heard my coworker, I guess one of their managers was wrapping up the the training day, finished finishing everything and sending them off. So okay, thank you for doing a service. Blah blah blah was good training day. We're going to do this and this tomorrow, whatever, blah blah. Everything went well tonight. The kitchen stepped up, really did a lot better. Everyone's kind of get into the groove now. Everything went really well except for the rats. And then she was like brushed by and she's like kept on talking to her. So I kind of push it to the side. But then, I think there was another one of her coworkers was like, not in cahoots, but knew what she was referring to me, or she was asking her like, what's her like? We got talking about like I heard her say, rats. Like, you know what she's talking about? The fucking tell me. Give it to me straight. Tell her like fucking tell me right now. She's like. Yeah, I went to I went to the dry storage area to get some whatever the fuck I was getting and saw a rat. Saw a fucking rat. And then she just, like, was in that. Energy and emotion in my car because of a story of someone else seeing a rat out. It's a hypothetical, still like I. But then I go rat completely like it's. There, but it's not there. I didn't see it herself. Is that it's that much fear. Is that it's that it was. You had to be direct. It could be a. Story of someone else hearing about one in somewhere that you frequent and you're like, oh no, oh God, no, I'm. Never going back there. Yeah. I mean, if I need to quit jobs, you know. It's that level with it. But rats have I have a smaller micro version of that with cockroaches. Fuck, I hate those things. Yeah. Me too. Big time. Like fear initiators, like. Oh, fuck. Oh, yeah. Petrifying. Then the wrong girl. Next. Kill some. Bitches. Yeah. There used to be, And when I was in high school and my bathroom at night, occasionally you would find a cockroach once a month. So it was this, in high school. Okay. So my. House. Yeah, I was, like, in middle school when I was seeing a lot of them. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, the worst is getting up because I wouldn't really see them there in the day. But at night I'd get up in the middle of night to go pee. Yep. And then the lights are kind of off and you just see a fucking cockroach kind of screaming, you know, like. Turn on the light in the bathroom. Then you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, give me a shoe. Are you barefoot? You know, say like I'm. Vulnerable in my boxers. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. You don't have no armor on. No weapon, no armor, no weapon, no gear. Low stats. Splatter full. Of piss. Yeah, plus, you're freaking. Peeing is a vulnerable thing, you know, like, get yourself real vulnerable. Around these bugs. Like, oh. Yeah, I feel you. But I definitely also feel like, Yeah. Like, there's a couple. There's a couple moments in my life where I had to do something like real petrifying, you know what I'm saying? And, I think it helped me kind of get over that feeling of being petrified, you know what I'm saying? Like, some people, like, my mom was the same way that you were describing. Victoria is with rats, too, like, Spiders. Oh. Okay. Super. Like irrational fear of spiders. Like to the point where. Yeah, she had, like, see a spider. Borderline phobia. Yeah. For sure. Phobia? Yeah. Like she open it like watching the Lord of the rings movie where there's a. Giant. Spider. It's a giant spider. All right, Harry Potter with the giant spider. Hobbit. I think maybe it was the. There's a was. A little lemmings two. Right. The third one, I think when they're finally getting to the mountain. They're spiders in that one. Right. There's always the same spiders. What do you mean? Or like because the Hobbit, just like the Lord of the rings world. But earlier. Yeah. Know I'm saying. So maybe I'm pushing the spiders in that one too. Okay. Yeah, maybe the same spiders. Either way, giant spiders and shit. Definitely giant spiders rolling around. But then also there's like a scene where he's like climbing up mordor and he's like really close to finally on the top of Mordor. And then there's this giant tarantula like, huge 30ft spider that's like, bites Frodo and paralyzes him, and he wraps him up in a web and he's going to, like, eat them. And then Sam has to, like, free Frodo. and not be afraid of the spider and fight back. And they end up like, I don't know if they kill it or how they get away from it. They have a sword and they get away. But like, I. Remember that relic shit this was. Yeah, exactly. my mom just, like, destroyed by that scene, though, like, super petrified. Like I can't watch. I can't watch, I literally can't. Watch this, you know, in Harry Potter, in the second movie, when they go to the giant spider in the woods. Could look at it, like, for real. And I was like, so then that helps me to conceptualize that, that, like, irrational a phobia, like, you know, that you shouldn't be afraid of, like a TV screen, but like, you're literally immobile. Like you can't even, like, do anything on screen. Yeah, yeah. What what? I guess that's coming. That thing is real for some people. And also it's coming from a place I think of, like ancestral DNA for some reason. Yes, I was I was just going to say that, bro. I was just going to say there's like, I was I've been having this inkling in my mind of a thought. I think I may have mentioned it before to you, but like a TV show or a TV series like, like The Descendants or fucking and like it's it'd be cool to have, like, because you could have multiple different storylines going on all at the same time within the show. But it's like they're different. They're all like a a lineage of DNA, you know, I'm saying. So it's like you can have like my, my story be one of the scenes and I'm one of the main characters and everyone's surrounding my cast and my whatever I'm doing in my scenes on the show. But then also you get like, go back thousand, 10,015 thousand years. So whoever I was related to and like their struggle, what they're going through. But like the yeah like near the stories or echo the stories and like have similarities between them and like have reasons and explanations as to why I am the way I am in some degrees and facets. I don't understand, I can't explain. All right. That's to be. It's a show that is beyond. That's one of the best shows I've ever heard. You pitch. Right. That's how I one crazy bro. Every time you'd have to be making like three shows at once, which would kind of suck, because if you're going to have it be like in caveman times or Viking times or, you know, like a Viking show, you got to have like a regular New York City. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And day. But like, dude, you get the right budget. I mean, it's fired. Someone should fucking do that. Like, every time we. Should do it. I mean, it's like, come on, money, but come on, dude. Yeah. Okay, man. Show. Have the fucking like, medieval times have a version. I mean, fucking, like, working now and like a restaurant or doing whatever. Yeah, yeah. Playing basketball versus, like, hunting or something, you know what I'm saying? Like watching your aggression come out of you or like conflicts. Yeah. Tribal times and shit. Yeah. Like watching, getting into a dispute nowadays versus a dispute than days. Yeah. That would be group dubbing. Dude, there's a lot of shit. Yeah. The way you handle it, each of the adversity is the same. You know what I'm saying? Are like the the interactions, the character interactions are the same, or maybe they're a little different, but there's some things that to stay true across stories, across time. Yeah. We can find those. Yeah. Mirror them. Yeah yeah yeah. Character development character arcs and like lessons learned or lessons not learned or whatever. So if you're watching and you're from Warner Brothers, contact us, hit us up. I'll make us happy. Get us in the room, get us in the room. Movies are a crazy thing because they invest like hundreds of millions of dollars to make a movie. Like just gambling that it's going to make money in the box office, right? Yeah. That's a big ass investment, dude. Like big gamble, for real. There's a lot of movies, I'm sure. Yeah, and that whole industry is just predicated on it. You just got to hit the button at the box office, make your money back. That's why a certain actors are worth so much money because certain actors demand or. Bring a viewership. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah. It's like oh what's this. What's what's in it. Oh I just denzel's in it. Oh, Denzel. One for. Us. Yeah. Me too. Me and. My girlfriend. Anything with Denzel. Were like, oh, actually. Denzel. Yeah. Who else is like that? who else is like that? Will Smith and Denzel, for sure. Matt Damon for us for a while was like that. Damon's good for his movies. Another one for us is, Samuel L Jackson. Okay, not so much on about myself, but when I'm with my girlfriend and we're looking for a movie or watch anything with Samuel L Jackson, he's they're all great. He's amazing. Morgan Freeman is in good movies. Yeah. Like Jim Carrey Steve Carell. Jim Carrey I'm on a Nicolas Cage run right now. Nic Cage, he's he he's mixed reviews. He's funny. He's I love. It. It's funny going into his body of work knowing the mixed reviews because I'm like understanding when the what they're talking about while they're talking about it. I love National Treasure. I know. Right. Because the debate started was is Nicolas Cage a better antagonist or protagonist? That was the debate between me and my girlfriend. She's like, I can't even think of any movies when he's a protagonist. Like a good guy. I'm like, National treasure. National treasure, first of all, first of all, us. That's one of his most devoted pieces of work. It's a national treasure. It's like, yeah, appropriately named Let's Go. Yeah. Come on. Solid about here on in 60s. Oh, I didn't even get there. Great movie. Oh. That's a great movie. Obviously that would be the wall. I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid. I remember when I. Was a kid, I watched it. Now I'd be fucking awesome. Hopefully. Hopefully it. Holds up. Maybe it's shitty, I don't know. No. Oh, no. This is the Nicolas. Cage, Conundrum. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. We were innocent. We were kids then, you know. No, I might be great, though. My dad liked it when I was a kid, which my mom. Was. Did, too. Right? Yeah. It makes you think we'd like it. Yeah. Yeah. So what? Fast and furious doesn't hold up so much. It doesn't. It doesn't look corny. Yeah, and there's fucking a thousand of them. You kind of gotta beat that horse to death. Nicolas Cage like a sketch. Yeah. So I know he's a antique. I've only seen a couple movies where as an antagonist. Go on. What? Do you have any more protagonists or see if you in the viewership can name more protagonist Nic Cage movies? I know he's a protagonist. And what is it, Ghost Rider or something like that, or. Yeah, a fucking flaming skull head guy on a motorcycle. I never saw it. I think I'm pretty sure I saw it, but I not memorable. Not memorable. I watch it now just cuz I'm on the run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. What else is Nicolas Cage in? He's in a couple of other movies, but I don't know. that's pretty much the extent of my Nicolas. Cage knowledge is that three movies versus. It and. Kick-Ass. I think he's in Kick-Ass. He's the antagonist. Nice. He's in a couple of other movies. I should have seen him. She said, Connor is one of the movies where he's a good guy and it's a phenomenal movie. And he's a really good, good guy. Okay, there's a question was more was is he good at being a good character or is he better at being a heel? Okay. Yeah. Antagonists or a bad guy. Gotcha. and then she was like, well, okay, he's a good guy, Connor. And that's a really good movie. But then, then I suppose. The antagonist side, I would you say. Well, then I said, in Face Off, he's a great, good guy I've never seen. And she's like, no, you fucking dumb ass. He's the bad guy in that movie. And now she didn't say that, but like, she was like, pause. Like, you know, it was a good point. It's like incorrect. And I was like, wait a minute, really? And she's like, yeah. I'm like, I thought I seen that movie. Like, maybe I haven't seen that movie because, like, maybe I'm thinking of Connor. I'm not sure. And then she was like, okay, we'll stop everything because we have to watch that movie at some point because it's like a classic face off. And he's an amazing bad guy in that movie. And I was like, okay. And then it started because I started watching a movie called Snake Eyes that I found on Amazon Prime, and all I saw was Nick cage and a bunch of other good actors, and it was like, late 80s, early 90s movie, I think. And it looked like, like, you know, just had that classic feel to it. So I was like, all right, I've never heard of this movie. Let's try it out. And we're watching it and it's like, not great. But then it's like getting good and it's this weird, like it felt like maybe it's a cult classic because it's like trying to be a big time movie. And the but the lines are a little cheesy and it's all 90s and it was like kind of getting into it. But then it turns out, I think it turned into like a really good movie, because Nicolas Cage is like an asshole, dirty cop that ends up being the protagonist who, like, wants to do the right thing and then everybody's like, nah, just just let it slide. You building inside your whole career, don't don't let the truth come out. The truth come out like you need to let the conspiracy happen. And he's like, I can't. And then they, like, beat him. Then they offer him money and like, do everything that they can do to get him to, like, just take the bribe like he's always done. And he's like, this time I can't, like, I can't do it. Can't let you kill this person. Like, I can't let it's not okay. And then he ends up like breaking through and being like a true protagonist. But it's like the it was like watching someone, you know what I'm saying? Transition or. Yeah. Because he's a cop. He's like allegedly a good guy, you know what I'm saying? It's like a dirty cop. It's like. Yeah, cool movie, great movie. Propelling characterization by Nicolas Cage. Good job guy. Yeah, and that's what spun it all this whole thing and, into balance. But then after we finished Snake Eyes, I put on Face Off and. Holy shit, he's a great bad guy. Like, he made me sick to my stomach, which is like, I mean, as an actor, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's pretty good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like you're you're trying to evoke emotion, right? Like it feel something. Exactly. And, John Travolta. Yeah. It's crazy. It's a great one. And the movie. Leo. Leo I forget Leo. In that moment. I don't know. No, no, no, he's. You know, John Travolta's in the movie too. Yeah. On Face Off. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. Well, what. Is Leo saying? Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm not one of those actors. Oh, that if they get him in a movie, he's like good about his his viewership. You know. I watch anything with DiCaprio on it, right? It's fire. He's gas, he's gas, he's just gas. DiCaprio. And, who's the other guy? The fucking, the guy that did the, got his body so crazy. You, Christian Bale. Christian Bale. Christian Bale and Leonardo DiCaprio. I think they're on a different level. Okay? They're like s tier. Brad Pitt, solid two. Yeah. So you put them up there. Matt Damon I think is in that's tier Samuel Jackson Denzel Washington those are s tier dudes right there for me that I'm like. Willie Smith. That shit's bangin. Will Smith fell out of the coolest here. The guy who slapped Chris Rock. Who's just a tier now Joe, Joe and Adam Sandler. We're talking about that. That's all he. Is now or not. Like that's a that's a heavy. Association with his person. Yeah. You're like he's got some of the best hits I've ever heard. I'm like. He kind of fell. Off, I fell off, I fell out, which is like the meta. Organization of things which happens. It's all right. So I'd love to tell you the plot of Face Off. But like most people probably know it and I can tell you later, but it's definitely worth watching. Basically, I'll tell you just a little, just the slightest bit. Like John Travolta is a good cop and Nicolas Cage is like a terrorist. And then ultimately Nicolas Cage becomes like incapacitated. And then John Travolta, to get the information that he needs, is going to take Nicolas Cage's face off, put it on his face, and then they're going to cut his hair and do all this biometric trimming for all of his facial features to make him become the bad guy so that he can infiltrate into the layer of bad guys and get the information that he requires as the bad guy. And he's the only one. This guy's been hunting this guy for ten years. This guy killed his kid. This guy is like, his arch nemesis, and he knows him well enough to, like, go in there and pretend to be. Him, act like him. And he's the only one that can do it. And it's the only way they can stop the ultimate bad thing from happening. So reluctantly, our protagonist agrees and he becomes the bad guy. But then the bad guy wakes up in the laboratory. Without his face. Without his face. And that's a crazy fucking scene to watch Nicolas Cage be. Faceless, terrorist. Faceless man. Insane. He does an amazing job. That's so fucking crazy, bro. Because Game of Thrones, there's like a society of people that are the faceless men who literally fucking do that. Like it's awesome. What? It's crazy. It's like they they kill people or they don't kill me. I guess they do kill people, but they also receive bodies and get bodies, and then they're able to through their connection, through their own spirituality, they were able to learn how to kill these people. Or when once they're dead clean, the bodies take off their faces and then, like, store them and keep them preserved in this like temple place where they have the all these crazy faces on these giant pillars, and then they're able to like, be this person, beat this person out in public, doing the fucking thing, doing whatever they got to do, usually assassinating people. And then they just like, take off the face and then they're back to the normal whatever. But they say fucking change faces like people change clothes. It's a and their body changes when they have the face of the other person on through some sort of magic. More or less. Yeah. Wow. It's crazy. That show sounds nuts. That's like, just like. A small little sliver. That's a small sliver. That's delicious. Yeah, it's. You might. It's like 60 days. So we start watching that. Oh, bro, it's such a that's like this one little part, like just such. A grand scheme of. Things. It's fucking wild. Well, that's just crazy that you have or like, watch that. That's what happens in that movie. Yeah. Because Nicolas Cage wakes up faceless, but then ultimately brings his terrorist friends in to make the doctor put Travolta's face on Nicolas Cage. So then Nicolas Cage, who was the bad guy terrorist, now looks like John Travolta, the good guy, and then vice versa as well. And they're still facing off against each other as each other. But then as far as acting goes now, John Travolta is big. Thing. Is Nicolas Cage in his body and that shit is nuts, bro. Like. I was so intrigued by that and they were crushing. The movie's great. And it's just like, you know, Travolta did a really good job, I guess because they knew the script and they knew the plot. So he's really one way in the beginning and then really the other way after they switched bodies. As far as like attitude and like how he talks to people and the way he treats his daughter and like it's it's like, at some point the bad guy ends up like parenting the daughter a little bit, but like, differently, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Then like how he would have done it. And it's like effective in some ways. It's just a crazy like, I don't know, man. Just playing out of personalities. Yeah, yeah. It's nuts. Excellent. Excellent movie. So so good. Yeah. That check out Nicolas Cage. This as far as movies go. Yeah. But I, I wanted to I definitely heard of it. He's going with you. We were talking about about Game of Thrones. yeah. No, no. We're talking about just actors. Actors that are. Yeah. Because your actors watch that shit. Yeah, sure. I you know, I got I was talking about actors. Will Smith slapping dude in the face. You know who else I can't really watch anymore? Who? Drizzy Drake. Drizzle. The music. Don't hit the same. Hit different. Now, dude. Kendrick poisoned his discography. It's a big it's a big claim. That's a bold claim. That's just like, He got hundreds of thousands of people yelling, yelling that Drizzy a pedo yelling at the top of their lungs with joy in their hearts. The sparkle in their eye that's kind of fucked up, you know, wiggle. In their hips, dude. Like celebrities, kids, athletes. They not like us, you know, like us. Like, oh my gosh. Oh, sorry. Well, the logo song said Obama. yeah. Oh go let's go guys. Was like Obama. Then one of the guests at our previous employer like, mix together. I agree with you. I agree with you to the tea. I feel like, yeah. After that, it's just weird because, like, you know, there's a lot of Drake songs that I would like to go listen, I remember how it used to feel to hear that song. I'm like. I'm like that feeling now. I go to bite the fruit, and it's just not even fruit anymore. It's just fucking plastic, okay? It's okay. But. Yeah. and that just meant, like, you know, it's weird how that can happen, right? Sure. You never should have fucked Kendrick. Sure. Let it be, dude. Let it be. You really fucked it up. Well, then how much is also it because of Kendrick is just. Like, lying about this shit. And, like, that's kind of fucked up, right? Because there's literally negative social ramifications and fan ramifications for what he has done. He should sue. Him for it. Yeah. So maybe he's not suing him for this slander. This slander is bullshit. I guess someone would say you wouldn't shoot him. You wouldn't sue him. You would shoot him. Just to take him to court is kind of a bitch. Move and thug it out. Yeah, right. But they ain't done that either. Done. Heavy beef going down still or who, who knows the truth of what's going on? Was it all premeditated? I doubt it, I think they've been that that I guess maybe having kind of beef in behind. Not like publicly, publicly, but maybe subliminally, a little bit deaf. Over the last ten years. Videos about it. Yeah. Subliminal beef. Subtle. So subtle jabs through verses and through whatever else. I guess Drake was really butthurt after Kendrick dissed them on control. And then Kendrick was like, oh man, this is business. Like, you know, I'm saying it's all of. Yeah, I don't even like, say that you're bad. You know, you're saying I'm trying to kill you. Yes. In this rap shit. Yeah. Yeah. No. But then it turned into a whole thing because he was like, hey, a body me on song and act like you're my friend in public. And then I'm like, you don't get that right. You know what I'm saying? I just competition like. That for going. Yeah, it's fucking like Kevin Durant and LeBron. We're just going head to head. Yeah. There's mutual respect from the spirit of the game. Yeah well they want I'm trying to win. That one song for song after each other. But I'm telling you like Drake's in a PR nightmare right now. Yeah yeah yeah I guess what is what is the claim exactly? Okay. Pedophilia. All right, all right. What's the what is what is he saying exactly though? You know. one thing. Because I think those levels. One thing is like he was allegedly dating and grooming Millie Bobby Brown when she was, like, 16, and I was trying to like, you know, I don't know exactly what grooming is, you know, but, like, trying to get her. To. Be down for the lifestyle that he wanted her to be down. For it to be down from a young age. Yeah. It's 1516. Okay. Yeah. That's young. Yeah. For sure. Or you're saying that there's a different claim. I think there's like the, the, the. Yeah. Like the Hollywood or the whoever, whoever runs and those, those circles, I think there's it gets deep in those circles into that realm of people and gets sick. And Epstein Island is like a whole allegation, you know what I'm saying. Right? Yeah. How many people famous celebrity, influential political powers. One went to that place on those white. Lines because then it's like, yeah, this is they and chicks were like 18, 17 or like 19. It's like Leonardo. Yeah. Leonardo was like dating 25 year olds. Like he cuts them off, you know, saying 25. It's like a similar. What's different. Right. A couple of. Years. There's like a thing about there's a thing that we're okay saying and that's like college girls are hot because they're young. Like especially girls in their 40s or 50s. Okay. Playing with that trope, no problem. family Guy has no problem playing with. Yeah, I was, I was I say they, they stay the same age. Yes they do. He's talking about high school which yeah that's that's like that's a scene from another movie. Yeah I'm pretty sure. Right. It is. Yeah. It's Matthew McConaughey, his breakout movie. It's his breakout line. Yeah. It's it made Matthew McConaughey. Yeah. And all right, all right, all right. From the same movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's based here in Texas. Got any drugs? Yeah. Possible. Or if you did something like that. Yeah. Yeah, that that movie is based out of a small town Texas. Yeah, yeah. What was that? what's it called? I'm trying it. I'm trying. I'm trying to grasp it in me before I got to this sentence. When I'm talking the sentence, I don't have it. So now I'm talking about how I don't have it. You know, it's called. The Ridgemont High. Yeah. Fast times at Ridgemont High. Come on in. Because the family Guy episode is called Fast Times, buddy. Sante. Hi. There we go. And I had to know what the reference was. That was one of my things about family Guy. Well, if I don't get it, what, am I, dumb? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm just. Yeah, I guess I'm just saying that there's, there's kind of levels to it. So it's like the label pedophiles like. Well, that's a, that's a big one. That's a big ol fat. I really don't think that they're. Hampering. Like little layers to like. But here's what here's my point is that yes, like he's young. Yes. We allow like younger girls to be high as a trope because like, just like you could say any feature about a woman, you could anyone could find attractive. Like, they're tall, they're short, they're thick, they're tiny. Like the any way you could be, like, old or younger. I feel like the dichotomy, any kind of like something that is like defines you could be found attractive to some degree. But like, you know, I think it's weird. I think it's weird that he's like, high school girls are hot, bro. I'm like, that's a little weird for me, bro. That's weird. That's weird. They're not. They're also not like, on one hand, they're young, but then on the other hand, they're like, childlike in their mind. So, like. They're immature to. It, to, manipulable. Like it's not a true relationship you're not going to see. We're saying, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. They're not fully individualized thinkers. And yeah, not at all. Life creators to the point that like the other, that's a boundary. And on the other side of that boundary is something really pure, like you can't cross that boundary. It's like heinous. Not only am I saying no, I'm saying like, you're fucking disgusting. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really stop that at like 16. I don't, I don't think I could qualify like four year old pedophilia worse than 16 year old pedophilia because it's like, I guess it is though technically when you're like, is that worth more sin points? You know what I'm saying? It's still boys on the board, right? Missing the mark is missing the mark. But true. I guess there is like the legal age, even like a legal age. Girls age or 18, I guess it depends on state to state or country to country. I guess in some cases, as. Pretty sure Texas is like 17, I thought. Yeah, might be 17. Yeah, 17 in Texas, 18 other places, who knows. But like yeah, 17. There's like, oh I was that's you know, he's legally okay. But this is like, is he still like a in the pedophile range. But he's legally okay. Like no, not in the pedophile range okay. Not there we go. Legally not a pedophile. No. Right. No no, no, I think that you're. Who made that you're. Dating a young girl, which is kind of. Weird, but it is very fucking weird. Yeah, I guess maybe that's what I'm trying to say. Maybe he's like, There's Kendrick calling. I would just deem very weird. Right? Like. Not like pedophilia. You should be arrested, right? Because that's like, not true. Like legally if it's like a 17 year old or whatever, it's hypothetically. But I guess in the in these allegations, you were saying that there was grooming prior to that. Yes. Waiting to get to that age. Was this fucking creepy a shit? Yeah, yeah. Still creepy a shit. Still waiting to get to that creepier. And that sense is creepier. Yes. Because if you were just like, nah, man, I'm not talking to her till she's like 17 or 18, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying a couple of years. Three years passed and then you were like, oh, wow. Like, yeah, let's let me take you out some shit like that. Like to to me like, yeah, weird. Like a little weird for sure. But also, I don't know what it's like to be 40. And also I've heard from other girls that like, 20 year old girls like to date four year old dude, sometimes like, because there's something attractive about it or there's some kind of like, you know. A nuance there. Yeah, yeah, some nuanced allure about the whatever they think about. Understanding how women date across it up. I think women sometimes want to feel that thing. I seriously that truth, that nature that they could actually date this person and get them to treat them nicely. It's like, oh shit. Like I imagine for a woman, that's a weird thing to understand about yourself. You know, like. A like a 60 and a 40 year old. Right. What's really different about that compared to a 20 and a 30 year old? But like ten years difference the other way. But it gets the maturation age makes it less weird, you know. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Patrick's how old? Like 38, 39. Somewhere in the ballpark. Yeah. Somewhere that. Ballpark dude at this. Stage, 17 or 18 year old. And it's just I would never do that. But you're not a pedophile technically. Like, legally, I guess, but still fucking weird. No. Yeah, I feel you. But yeah. So if Kendrick is saying that that was that's his claim or maybe that he has other information that we have, I don't have access to it. So I'm just saying that that might be a little slanderous. Okay. Could be a little slanderous if he's just like, wrong. It's also just weird. The fuck they what's weird is I would have if I were Drake, I'd be like, dude, you're pussy and you're slandering me. Like, you have to tell lies about me so that you can try to give yourself an edge, but, like, that's crazy. you know, like, that would be my defense. It wouldn't be like you're on some whole little weird shit over there that, supporting a claim that ain't even true. Like some of the outros on the songs just sounds weird. His rebuttal is weird. It's like. It's like he's avoiding it. He's just trying to avoid the allegation and let it pass, which is like what I. Think a guilty person would do. But that's just. that's. Pretty well documented to, like, my sister told me about Millie Bobby Brown, like. And that's. Four years. Ago. And that is the actress in Stranger Things, right? Right. and then also later and there's a movie that's out right now that's really popular about Millie Bobby Brown goes into a cave and has to, like, work her way out. It's called like, it's about a, it's called a princess or something like that. Okay. Damsel. Boom, boom. Yeah. It's called damsel. I was like, one of the number one movies for a little bit there. Okay? And, she looks so young in that movie. Dude. I was like, That's Millie Bobby Brown. Five years after all that shit, she still looks like a child. She's playing like an adolescent girl. This is only, I don't even know if I had a guess. It's why I like 16. 17. Because I know that she was a Stranger Things. She was younger, for sure, but that was a long time, I think. A long time. But she was 15, like five years ago. Okay. Like 20 now. But that's also when it happened. It was five years ago. But yeah, probably like 20 now. But even now as a 20 year old, she still looks like a 15 year old, which makes me feel like that's really creepy. Drake. Extra, extra creepy, right? But she was like a Hollywood starlet. She's also clearly on the path to fame, I guess. What was the dark like? The documentation or what was the evidence or what? What's like what's right? How was the grooming? You know, I guess just, I don't know, being in proximity and then hanging out. Allegedly sending creepy tags, hanging out too much. Trying to get into the club. Right. You know, she's 15, right? Having a 15 year old dance on you. What the fuck? That's fucking creepy. Yeah, dude. That's fucking gross. I'm saying it also sounds like if it's true. Right, Drizzy? And let's talk about this spectrum. How about, For the people in Hollywood who are doing really disgusting things? Okay, maybe that's not so disgusting. So maybe, like, that's some kind of like in Drake's mind, where he's in this Hollywood world where people are doing pretty like, you know, a lot of really heinous stuff. Dating a 50 year old was like, the least heinous thing he could do to be still doing something heinous in that culture. To have skin in the game. Something like that. Right. That's almost like some plausibility of some way to understand what the fuck happened there. But even so, I'm like, bro, what the fuck? Like, you're one of the best artists in the world. You can run away to Canada and never have to deal with Hollywood if you didn't want to. Yeah, you can go fucking build a fortress, dude. Live there. Live in a castle? Yeah. You're choosing to do this at this point? Yeah. I would never choose to engage in Hollywood games like that. Like, not worth it. That's what. That's what people that don't believe in themselves do. They think they have to make a sacrifice because no one can ever really have it on their own. There's no way I could. So I'll do whatever I have to so that I can have fame. It's like you're you're a nonbeliever. There is. No faith, no. Faith, no self-belief. How sad is that, bro? Yeah, you don't even. That's one of our big, I guess we were talking about some of the things. Oh, that this was a redemption podcast for losing the other podcast the other day, and that particular podcast was fucking guys talking about some shit. But one of those things was belief was one of the foundational things that we were talking about, like your belief system and like influences your thoughts which influence your actions, which is like your life and also like your expectation of what you think is going to happen here in your expectation. And your beliefs are kind of like hand in hand, even though it's like the beginning of the end of your live experience. So yeah, some people don't have the ground self belief, like they don't believe in miracles and they don't believe in treating others as themselves. Those are a couple of like a couple of things that maybe like questions that you were to ask people that like, you would be able to determine kind of where that person is, like headspace is that. Yeah. You know, so I do believe everything happens for a reason. Like there's a plan for you. You know, I'm saying there's a couple. Do you think every sane person would say yes to that thing? Every what Sane person is what I said. But I guess I'm saying like you're saying you're hoping that the person would say, like, yes, I believe everything happens for a reason. Almost like it's the right answer. I'm like, is there going to be people that out there that are smart, intelligent, charismatic, well-balanced people that don't think that's the right answer? Yeah, for sure. Right. For sure. But it is going to impact their their belief about what's going on around them, you know. Yeah, yeah. And some people don't have their own self belief. That's that's the part where I'm like, what are you even doing here? Like what's the point of your autonomy if you don't believe in yourself? You know, and I guess, I guess if you just feel like, you know, you're a fuck up and you let everybody down all the time and you don't want to take the last shot in the game because you won't make it. I'm like, I don't know about grinding in that motherfucking gym and that metaphor, whatever it is that you're not good enough at, that is your defines. You. Can you get better at it. You know. Yeah. Yes. That sucks. Fuck that. Yeah. I don't even know what that's like. It creates a crazy reality that. Yeah I can't even imagine. No I won't let myself imagine. Because I'm like is it out of. My matrix. Well I'm done with that. Good bye. Onto the next subject. Yeah we were talking about some crazy shit though. But yeah, we think that our. I think that you're. Because I guess we got to those. That's like where we ended. We ended with the beliefs, the thoughts, the actions and then the expectation. And those things kind of create what the fuck's going on here? Because I guess all of that was predicated on the idea of us talking about cliches, about life is what you make it like. Thoughts create reality. That type of shit. So I think that there is definitely is something there. So like if you don't have that self belief and the expectation is going to be that things are going to turn out negatively because of what your self belief is, then like, this is going to be fulfilling and like you'll justify that and that's what you'll create kind of, you know, it takes a crazy person or takes a, a somewhat delusional amount of faith and yeah, it's like craziness to think that you can change something that's not currently happening or to think like, okay, like I know what the results are, you have your expectation. But it's like in order here to like change your expectation and change your belief in order to do that, it's fucking it's crazy. You have to be a little bit crazy. You have to be willing to be a little bit crazy, because you're literally going in complete contrast with what is actually happening in the business of the of the now. And you're like, not fuck, what is this? I, I accept it, but like, fuck this, this is no more like I'm going to whatever I'm going to change this shit in some whatever way. You're going to change it. Yeah. And so it takes a lot to get to that fucking that flip if you don't have the self-belief, but you need that to have a chance, bro. You need that's even have a fucking chance out here. Yeah. Otherwise you're just going to be. Coasting. Coasting to death. Leading a life of quiet desperation. Going up the river as. The quote says. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. You're always and going with the flow. You'll never have the chaos to go against the flow. I mean, sometimes it's just like a pure cry out, like it's like, desperation can get rid of the need for self belief. Like, I don't believe I can get that job. It's like I need that job. Getting that job. Yeah, I'll need a lot of stuff. That's right. You know, I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah. The necessity. Yeah. Create necessity and urgency. Do it now. Do it now. Do it now. It's good, it's good. You don't want to always have to be desperate to make a play and make a play. Just a normal state. But it's a hit more often if you're in a normal state. Yeah. Yeah, man, I think having a couple of those questions of like, do believe everything happens for a reason, like your self belief. Would you or do agree with the sentiment of like treating someone as your neighbor? I guess it's trying to be even in that sense, you know, not trying to fucking fuck anybody over or hurt anyone unnecessarily. Sometimes you have to hurt somebody with like if it's true or if it's going to be beneficial in the long run or it's gonna be like a coaching or a learning moment, then like you have to hurt them in that moment to do a better overall good. But no one's, I guess not no one. But we're talking about that to potential the amount of people who are in that percentage, like who are fucking people up, narcissists and psychopaths who are actually out there. It's like fucking scary, bro. They're like power. Recluses and fucking. Black. We don't think they're fucking out there. Yeah, that's like that's like definitely a 2% of the population. But then up to 10% of the population is just like hyper disagreeable conflict. Doesn't agree with any of those sentiments, is like, there's no fucking there's no plan for any of this shit. What I do here doesn't matter. I can treat anyone instrumentally and do what I want to get what I want. Give a fuck, dude. Also, I feel good in the moment. When you ask those questions, man. There's other questions. Like who? Who does that person think that they are? Who do they think that I want them to be? And then who does that person want me to think of them in my own mind, not only like the perception of what I actually think, but what do they want me to think of them? So, like all of that plays into what they'll say about themselves. like the the decision to be vulnerable and honest to that question. And then on top of that, to actually be aware enough to know your character and have a belief system and then express that belief system in that vulnerable and honest way. But I don't I don't know how many like what the percentages of people that can communicate like that. Some people are so worried about, you know, being the right person in a conversation or someone sounding smart in every conversation that they're at just so that they don't ever have to be someone's fool. Especially like in a workplace. Sometimes it's like just being honest. It's like, no, I got to say something that sounds boss right here, you know, like, that's not me, per se, but I think that that happens a lot with, like, like Jack saying and, like, posturing, you know? Yeah, I'm trying to have others, respect your authority or give it validation. Right. Something. So I'm. The boss. I wasn't the. Boss because I, I agree that it would be awesome to have that on our, like, if we're gonna hire somebody, like, would you mind filling out this question? Air force? Yeah. Just like getting honest response. another thing is, I think it would be beneficial for a job to determine what your love languages it's like. Tell me what you love languages so I can know how to, like, have a relationship with you. Because if, like, I'm really good at Words of Endearment or whatever it is. So like, if I appreciate you, I can communicate that I appreciate you. And if that's how you feel loved, then that's going to like be enough, you know, like you're going to be a happy person. But if you have a different love language, if it's like gifts or something like that, and I don't know that, and I'm never like trying to go out of my way like, hey, I got a $20 Starbucks free card this week. You're doing great work. I really appreciate you a lot. Like that's going to hit for that person 20 times more than anything I could ever say. And then it's like I can meet the needs of my employees much better. If I knew specifically what would help them, like vibe, you know? But then I was like, doesn't do you guys know, like like if I'm interviewing ten people, how many of those people know what their love languages, not only do they know what it is, but then they actually know what theirs is, and they're not going to lie to me to do like it's some kind of test. Like which one? In which one means a lot to you? Which ones? The right. Answer. Yeah, right. So what do you want me to be? That's not going to help us. Is the truth please the truth? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You need to have. You have your own thing. You have your own fucking thing. People are living in the perception of the perception. That's a big cornerstone. Yeah. That's hard to break through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes everything. It can take everything in your being to do it. Yeah. All your mental fortitude. To just express yourself purely. To fucking. Yeah. To true. Try to be the truest expression. Not to lie to yourself first and foremost, and then to anyone else. Yeah. This is the best of your ability, you know. Even on accent or like, sometimes it's just like, you don't know, you think it's a little white lie sometimes and you're like, accidentally saying something and it just like, sounded good on accident. Like it? You ever like the jump was ten feet and I'm about to tell them it's ten feet. I'm telling them I actually said 14ft and they loved it. So I'm just going to leave that there. Why correct myself at this point? It's going to fuck up my flow. and like that's just like happened to me sometimes. And then I make a mental note, I'm like, why did you exaggerate there to embellish what you were saying? So you would think that you were cooler than what really happened, you fucking lame. Line 88 you do segue. Disingenuous douche alert. Yeah, I call myself out like that because it's, you know, because it starts off on little accidents. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm trying to get my accounting degree. yeah. I'm going to finish up soon. It's like the fuck. No you're not. Why are you telling that person this? And then I just don't want to ever, like, tell my boss, like, you know, I'd rather be like, I was like. Because I fucking mismanaged my time. I don't ever want to be like. Traffic was really bad. And then one time it's like, what? traffic. And then he's like, there's no traffic on the road now you're just a fucking liar. You know what I'm saying? That's a hard. Boss. Is going to check the traffic. let me see about this traffic. It's all good. This traffic you speak of. you. I guess what I'm. Saying is, like, telling a white lie to cover yourself up, but then, like, having that instantly be revealed as a white lie, just like you lose such credibility and respect. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Or it's like that becomes also like a your it's a habit. It becomes a habit at that point. And by habit, I guess I'm more so I'm saying it's it's almost becomes a response instead. It doesn't even got I guess, a habit and a response is almost similar in some aspects, but it could be like, because I don't know, I remember in particular, there was one employee that we used to work with and I think I would ask, I don't even know. I was like, I would ask, I was like, oh, did you do this or this? Like, could you do this? Or say, I would inquire about doing something about getting the restaurant open. So, all right, let's get this shit open, blah, blah, blah. We're doing it. And then we're to ask her like, oh, would you did or did you do this or have you done this? Or why isn't this done? I think that that's usually more so. It's like, why isn't this done? Like, have you had time to get to this yet? And then I know there was a couple times, because we work together over the span of a month or two. So multiple not a whole bunch, but a handful, five plus interactions of just like us doing this thing and like I've noticed a couple, maybe 2 or 3 of those five interactions where I would ask something and then I would know that the response I would get was like a lie. I would just like an instant lie, really. It's like a white lie was like, oh yeah, I did that. I was like, I was like, oh, did you? Because I think I'm okay. One that came to mind right now for sure, for sure, for sure. The most recent one it was I was like, oh, could you get some taco bags and taco boxes and then go about doing things do do do do do time passes, 30 minutes pass, go back down, check in the same area, look down. And there's no like there's some in there. But it's like a very, very small amount. And I was like, you didn't put any in here like in here. And I say, hey, do you have time to fill me up with taco boxes and stuff? Just like, oh yeah, I did, or like something like that. I was like, if you did, then you only put like five in there. Like, you know, like maybe you did. Put five in there, but like, if you're gonna put any in there like fill it up. Right. So like why isn't like maybe it's is like a habit or response that's built into something, into something into the perception of the perception. You know what I'm saying? It's like double speak, because maybe she wants you to know that she's going to do it, but she wants to say she did it so she can say she did it, but it's like. It's taken care of. Yeah, right. Yeah, man. Don't worry about it. Yeah I got that handled. Yeah, yeah. Under control. Yeah. It's better than saying I didn't do that thing. You're right. Oh dang I. Forgot. Yeah, exactly. You can just like take what would be credit from you. Like, positive reinforcement from you, even though it's not deserved. Yeah. And that shit's gotta die. Gotta kill that. Thing. I think you might get there accidentally by telling those little white lies on that. Like at least logging it in your mind. Yes. Of like, hey, why do I do that? Like, why watch out for that in the future, you know? So yeah. Then don't be doing that all the time. I agree because I think it leads to that. It's just like, that's not good. Yeah. It's just it's a quick little bit. It's like, why not? Cool. I'm not even like a mean. Boss, you know. So yeah, I'm not going to like blow up on you. Never like okay. Could you, like, just fill it up, please? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Is it so. Gotta be careful. Gotta be careful out here. Do your best. It helps a lot else. Just clear your vision. It helps you. You have a better sense for the truth because you're telling the truth all the time. Save a better sense of, like, when someone's being honest with you. What's happening? What's actually happening in a situation, right? That awareness is rises up because there's less distractions. It's less. Blurry. Yeah. Willing to try to be truth the like detectives are like monitors. Yeah I can feel it. This is more true. I could like, maybe see intentions, you know. Yeah. Got to a point where I felt like I could do that. I could, I could sense when people are capping just because I could feel like intention. Opportunity for lie. Yeah, exactly. And lots of. Opportunities to manipulate my perception. Yes. It got eerie, in fact, where I was like, it smells like this. Smells like a lie. Yeah. I could smell the cat and the Joe Rogan describe that. He feels like he can sense when someone is being manipulative or lying to him or ill intentioned. And he said it. It hits him in his nose, too. He's like, it feels like I can smell it. Like I know that's not what's happening. I think it's like pattern recognition. That's like cuing me into like a hunch, but I feel like it happens in my nose. I was just like, bruh, I know exactly what that's like. It's weird. I could smell your bullshit. And then you'd smell it. Him.in Huberman were saying that there is potential for people to give off. Like micro. Like liar odor. Yes, stress and anxiety for sure. Like the way you would spray if you're, like, stressed. Nervous. Yeah. So then if there's a nervousness to being dishonest at all, then you would. Exhibit it'd be perceptible. Exactly. And I mean, we're getting into a whole thing right here because some people think that you can like, read people by just looking at their face and their body posture and their gesture and the tone of voice, you can discern if someone's lying to you or not. Body language. My thing is that you can always you can almost always discern if someone's having anxiety. There's natural state, then there's anxiety versions of people. And just because you can, maybe someone has like a nervous tic. So you see me being nervous and you think like, maybe he's a dishonest person. Maybe I'm just like having anxiety, you know? And to claim what that anxiety is based on, you could never I guess some people get anxious going to a second story of a building like that's not being them being dishonest, they're just a little afraid of heights. So like, the best thing to do would be to befriend that person and ease their anxiety because that's what's gonna allow their truth to come out. But if you become like, I have sworn and you're like, I see, I see you're fucking. Fixated on it. I know you're not being honest and genuine with me. It's like, that's going to make that person have even more anxiety, which would create like a negative feedback loop of like, he really is dishonest. Yeah, he's a witch. He's a witch burning. But this dates exactly right. And that's I think that's why you can't you can't tell yourself you can read people truly. You may be able to pick up something, and you might have the I think if you have the intuition to not be trying to find out when people were lying, when someone is lying to you, that one just kind of hits you more like, I think that's capital you know. Yeah. There's something there that's crazy that there could be legitimate scientific evidence to suggest there's an odor or some sort of perceptible give off that happens that we're able to like, I can feel your line. Yeah. You know what, I guess you, you kind of just put see opportunities for someone to to manipulate your perception. you know, I mean, if you're able to, I guess, able to kind of to see, like if you, when you ask people questions like, definitely if you're doing an interview, you know, right. Like you're I'm building my perception literally off your answers. Right. You know, but I could dig and I could ask different kind of questions. I'm going to be like very skeptical. Skeptical about what you say. But you're you have the opportunity to lie a whole bunch and an interview. A lot of people do. I'm sure, and that. Everything is definitely. Definitely. A go to guy over there. Go to go. The go to guy. Not that that's a to go guy. I'm the go to guy. Yeah. You work to go short. Yeah. You're the go to guy for that to go. See you wasn't even the best guy. To go. Actually it was this guy didn't work there. Yeah, right. Dude, that's that's happens all the time. People lying on your resume is like a classic thing. It's like 50%, Apply for a job interview one time that it was to be a server. Oh, yeah. My dad was like, I embellished. We didn't lie, I lied. We know you didn't. Yeah, that those I embellish. Sure. Embellish is your embellishment. because I definitely had restaurant experience. I have worked in a restaurant before. Facts really have restaurant experience. Prior to the. Riverwalk in San Antonio. Was helping my mom at Marie Callender's during the holiday season, particularly Thanksgiving. Because they get slammed, because they sell a lot of pies. And I was boxing a lot of pies and organizing a lot of boxed pies in a. Restaurant that's side that's restaurant experience. That's right. From experience. Yeah, this was my experience. Go to guy. I was gonna go to taco guy. Oh, that's a true story. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. No, I told them never. Serve the table that day. Well, I've never taken an order. Never served drinks, none of that shit. But how do I start? Experience? Sure. Yeah, you did then. Like. If they never asked you what you did and you never. You never had to tell them about shelving pies. I told them I held at my mom's restaurant. Nice. Not a lot of, like, dessert. Crafty. Not a lie. It gets game of Thrones is like that. Or like it just highlights. That truth of like the the game of talking like narrative. Really? Yeah. There is a lot of omission is a lie. Oh hundred percent. Yeah, 100%. I knew what I was doing, I knew what they wanted, I knew I didn't have it. I needed it in and I needed it anyway. Okay. As God working, that's God working. God like. No, I got my freelancing. Oh. Hey. Who what are we talking about? Know what we're talking about? What are we talking we're talking about? That's a new unsaturated part right there. Well, you know, I got baby girl coming. I don't even know. What to think about that, bro. I didn't lie, I lied. Oh, what do you say? I told them that in high school. There was a guy who owned a Mexican restaurant that was a big fan of the football team. Not a lie. Not one. Not a lot of good stuff. And that that, he was, such a big fan of the football team that I played on that, he would allow me to come into the restaurant and wait tables, like, once or twice a week, just whenever I had some free time just to make some money. Yeah, I could call him up and say, hey, can I work tonight? And it was like, it's at like 10 or 20 people. It's just really chill. Makes place. yeah, I could take I could take orders. I can get drinks, I can provide food. Like I haven't done anything like this, but I was a big time athlete. I played a bunch of sports, had a lot of pressure situations. I know how to work hard and how to be on a team. anything I put my mind to, I find a way to be successful. I promise I'll do that for you. And he was like. He usually don't hire people that don't really have experience, but, I don't know. Let's just do it, okay? You'll be. All right. Let's go. Yeah. And I was like, oh, got a job. Let's go, let's go. We paying rent? Homeless man experience. Homeless man experience. That was a lie by the way, I have never I used to go eat at Monos. I ate at a Mexican restaurant. Was there plenty? Plenty of time. Well, twice a week I would come in and see the guy. Who loved the football players. And, I bet if I asked him to work there, you know. If I would have let me. There we go. Yeah, there we go. No. Not a lie. Potentially. There is a lot. See, what makes a great lie is you surrounded the truth. Oh, yeah. You got to, you know, cushion that. Keep yourself as normal, like as truth based as you can. So that way your lie isn't, like. Completely out of left field. You're just imagining a world that doesn't exist. I don't want to teach you guys how to lie or anything like that, but I think it's funny. That. The one of the only ways allow passes if it's padded with truth, because it's like, so polarizing, you got to smuggle it in, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're we could I guess maybe maybe that points to the, the fact that we can, like, detect truth and like, we have to smuggle in the lie sometimes. Yeah. You know. Yeah. The truth detecting machines. True feeling machines. We have this feeling process going on here. All our five senses plus our sixth sense. Yeah. Just want to say that's not something I really gathered from my life, per se. I didn't realize, like, after a ton of lying. The best way to lies. I saw it in a movie somewhere that was in a movie that was. Like, all I know, Your Honor. Two. Really? Yeah. When he's, like, helping him create his alibi. Yeah. He's like, what the actually, like, let's actually go do all that shit. Yeah. You know, saying that was not, like, validating for that thought, but I was like, oh yeah. Like, I have, like a presupposition notion that supports this thing that he's talking about. And I think it makes sense, like he has to tell the story over and over and over again to like, implant an actual like thing to recall would get rid of. If you're to take a polygraph and he's like, yeah, we went to the cemetery and you like went to the cemetery, there's no skip in a heartbeat because you're just like, you're not imagining, you're recalling. And that's a big difference in your brain waves and the way you're going to talk and the way your eyes look, inflection points, recalling is a different thing than imagining hmhm. Most of time people say, when you recall, you look down, and when you imagine, you look up. Maybe we are. Oh, okay. Yeah. what happened there? you're looking into the, to the. The abstract thought realm. Yeah. Like, where is it? Where is it without cabinets? I learned all this when I was a kid. I, you know, I don't I don't remember when I got fascinated if my dad was telling me about all this. But the problem is, there's times where I know I'm recalling it. Like, I know. You know what I'm saying? It's my fucking life, you know? I'm saying, and I know I'm recalling something, but my face goes up a little bit. I'm like, oh, when was that? When I did that. When was that? You know what I'm saying? So you can't use these fucking textbook guidelines. Yeah. Criminal minds, that's. Why I love that show. We love that show. I love. That show. That show had it in my head that you could fucking read people and profile people and understand all that shit about them based on behaviors and shit, you know? But it's like. This one truth to it. But there's no definitive by the book textbook. This is how it goes. This is how it goes. There's a lot of variability and randomness and chaos. It's like trying to define intuition. It's like he can't it just. And I think you're you're trying to find science for the. The gut feeling. Yeah. Exactly. Even then I think we I think we did I think there's a, I don't know, scientific research backing that idea that there's like an energy center or like a, like another brain almost. And like your gut. Yeah. Yeah. That has thoughts and has feelings and has expressive qualities. Fascinating. Crazy. That's just real hard to hard to grasp. But yeah, we're all just such crazy combinations of everything expressing what the hell we're trying to do. It's overwhelming. It's honestly it's overwhelming. Yeah, yeah. If you really think about. It, it truly is. It's overwhelming how deep the shit kids we get out there. So far out there, dude. Out there. Yeah, bro. I wouldn't have been having it on all this time. I was really just trying to get us away from what would be one of the worst podcasts in the world. Rats, cockroaches and diarrhea. Pedophilia online. Here we are. We're talking over some dumb, gross shit, y'all. Sorry I had to do a mental jujitsu moment while I was talking to you because I'm like, dude, this is horrible. We're bombing like. Jesus Christ, this is bad. Sorry, guys. But I also. Think so, y'all. Yeah, if we had. An investor, you'd be like, let me just check out an episode. Let me see the most recent episode. Oh my God, that was one. Oh. What's that? What's this? Especially because of how polar opposite the other episode was. Yeah. So uplifting. So I was speaking in Canadian. I was just so tapped into Jordan Peterson Energy. Oh, yeah. It's just like so sophisticated. My word choice was all my leg cross was different. Yeah, it was all different. You know? It wasn't like I was in different. Like I was embodying a different energy. Yeah, we a different energy last time. I can't control what animates me or what I'm influenced by what what is inspiring these conversations? I think that they're alien ideas and energy forms just being talk about this. There's truth in this. There's real in this. Like, if we can't talk about something then we're we're fucked up. I want to be open enough to find the truth in everything, to find the comedy in everything, to find the like when we're talking about like what's the difference between 16 and 4 year old pedophilia. That question. A lot. No news. Broadcasters answering. That question. No one talking about there's no CNN, no fuck no no one. That's just a you're gonna crucify yourself you know. But I think that to be afraid of just talking about anything to understand the nuance of it, to like, parse it out and say, do we really feel a certain way about some like, how is it that we think about this shit that's like a super power of ours. To find a truth? I think it requires a certain amount of openness, which is a personality trait, to be willing to talk about anything, you know? Yeah. But, yeah, I'm proud of us for not shying away there. I kept digging in. Kept looking. Just. Yeah, I got just the way. The things. These things bridge together. Yeah. This is just so random. Something weird. Run. It's like. We're weird. Run. It happens. We said the devils might have taken away the last podcast. Unexplainable things had the file. There wasn't the whole file, but I had the. I had the project on ProTools. It was fine in the night time, editing it, lighting everything up. Got the intro, cut the beginning, boom. I ended up got the outro. Okay, we're good to go try to export it, but I only exported like an hour and a half and it was like almost two hours. So I was like, oh yeah, I need to slide this thing over. It's actually worth the whole thing. Did, did the hour and a half one on accident the night on the night. Woke up that next morning. Didn't even close the program still open. Realized it was only an hour and a half instead of the whole two hours. I was like, okay, let me just export it again. Try to export it again. Fucking nothing. See what what the I didn't even nothing changed. Nothing changed. Literally zero zero. The things changed. Maybe the program froze while I wasn't saved or something like that. Something that I am unable to explain happened for sure. I'm sure there's a reason for it. I know there's a reason for it. I'm not sure what the explanation of that is or how and why we lost that part. It was great. But yeah, potentially the devil took it from us. That's why I classify it. We just lost it to to the ether. It goes. To adversity. Yeah. To the adversity. The adversity, the inevitable, inevitable shitty thing happens. And we really witnessed a lot on that podcast. It was a lot about Scripture. God famously. Belief systems. I mean, dude, that was honestly one of our best podcasts ever. So to have it taken from us and then to get on here and talk about, you know. The gross shit. Literally everything that makes a comic dirty, that's dirty comedy for you morally. I mean, that's it. And that's we can clean it all, but I don't know, it's a weird thing, but also, I feel good pushing, being willing to pursue truth through any subject that comes up, just finding the lulz with you. And yeah, cooking with it, not being afraid. And then also. Super stream of consciousness. Yeah, right. Right. Del Estado. Oh yeah. If you ask me personally, I praise God. Yeah, I'm, I'm saying I try to do the right thing. Praise God. I feel like, okay, there's nothing there's no there's no judgment to be had, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like free enough to just be me. You know? That's what I'm about. Yeah, that's what I'm about. That's what we choose to be about. Hell, yeah. It's okay. Bro was, was winding down. We're gonna head over to the office. We're going to get this hip hop in and hopefully get it furnished and decorated in the next week. Hopefully sooner than that. Look at this shit. Rolling. Got client already empty 38 productions. We're going out with a bang bang. This is going to be also part of episode number two of the under 38 vlog series is coming out. We're going to be documenting this journey of entrepreneurship, business, startup, the whole fucking thing. So we say it's going to be ten, so be on the lookout for that too. Yeah. More content, more streamline. We're here for. You trying to increase the podcast production time. Maybe go twice a week, maybe three times a week, depending on if we get the guests, and then also our upload capacities, maybe get one on Patreon or something like an exclusive pod on Patreon. Oh, and real quick I want to shout out hello! We had, Oh, I saw that email. Yeah, dude. I'm trippin. We got a fucking subscriber, bro. The bus crash subscription. Fucking $10 a month, bro. We're not all for a sub, bro. We got a sub. We're making money. That almost pays for the Buzzsprout subscription. Yeah. Ronda Trevino and yahoo.com. Ronda. You're savage. We love you. Let's go. We appreciate at some point during your day you stopped and you were like, where can I contribute to this? And you must have done some research because I don't even know. I don't even know. We had buzzsprout subscriptions. Yeah. And you found that and you committed. That means so much to me. Thank you. Yes. Maybe we'll do that as well. Or like in in tandem with the Patreon podcast, we'll have a Patreon and a subscription only podcast. Yeah, that comes out once a week. Yeah. And then we have two other regular podcasts where we try to get guests on twice a week. That's awesome. So we have three podcasts a week. One of them is exclusive to Members only and on Patreon. Yeah. Just as an extra, just an extra way to support us, you know? Yeah, extra value for you if you. Want us to talk about anything, I think DM comment, whatever. We got you, Rhonda, we got you. We appreciate getting there. We'll get in there and talk clearly. We'll talk about what? About anything. Anything. Doesn't matter. She's got a flex subscription. We'll be okay. Episode. No, I'm just kidding. Never. Oh, no. I'm gonna lock it in. I don't know, have. I lock it in? we're just. Playing for the LOLs, but we're going to continue on. Have a great rest of your day. Whatever you're doing great rest of your night. Wherever you're going, you're going into work, going and just going to sleep, washing the dishes. You hit that shit kick on. We love drink. Come, Chico. They really do. They didn't works here on the other side. Peace.