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The MJ38 Show
Episode #59
On this Episode of The MJ38 Show (Podcast):
Matthew and Justin talk about Big Sean’s Album, Things Happening In 3’s, and Watching “Superbad”
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I absolutely. I absolutely love Big Sean. I love that guy. What we're going to say about the album. Well, first of all, I love it. It's amazing. I think you should listen to it. I think you listen to. All of I enjoyed it. I think it's like a beautiful baseline for how you should just think and feel all the time. Yeah, he gets, he gets and he gets metaphysical. He's abstract. There's a lot of just like being positive and being grateful. I love the bar. How could it get any better than this? Because it's like if that gets stuck in your head. I had a whole day where I kept saying to myself, how could it get any better than this? And I think a mantra. It is a mantra. Yeah. And it's a positive. It's like, because if you're going to ask something of the universe, if you're going to make your mind think about if you're going to put a thought out there, it's like, how could it be better? How could it be better? And that's a great pulse just to have. Yeah, you'll get an answer. It's so much better than being, like scared or nervous or worried because that's like, what's the question you're asking? Like, what are you what's what's there to be afraid of? Like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a dual dual weapon. It's like the now in the future. Right. So how could I get any better? But it's like. I don't know. Like, there's also an implication that, like, it's already amazing. You know what I'm saying? Like. Right. Blessed as it is really having any better than this. And then it's like, I'll show you all right. Right. Yeah. This surprises you in a positive way. I felt that that's I agree with you because I felt that when I kept accidentally doing that mantra all day, because most mantras are. Like lyrics get stuck in your. Head. Exactly. So, so it's just boom, boom, boom. And then, like, after maybe 3 or 4 times of myself, like catching myself. Just like saying it impulsively, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was like, okay, I could choose to stop doing that now. Like, that's almost annoying, even for me. You know, but then I was like, wait a minute, though. That's kind of like then it hit me that it could be beneficial if I just, like, kept thinking that all day long, you know? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it's hard to be on that five every day, per se. But that's why it's a good album, just to kick around and play around, because I feel like there's a lot of, like, just good shit in there, you know? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. His that he kind of built his artistry on that, at least through my lens of looking at him. Right. He's he's always been kind of about a little bit deeper or like, I guess trying to strive for that expression of that idea, trying to communicate his truth and his truth seems to be like, yeah, reading the four spiritual laws and or the Four Agreements and all that, kind of like the alchemists, that type of mental warrior. Create your own life. Positive enlightenment like upward. And so he's always been about that shit. Yeah. It's it's lit. Yeah. He also has the way he talks about being a dad. I thought it was just like, really? the show was fire, dude. Like, I needed that in my life. Just, like, thinking about having a kid, you know? And just like the way that he talked about it and the way that he, like. You know. I think there's like he says one where he's like, on up that song specifically, I feel like is like. Dedicated, right? But that influence is all in the album and different bars and stuff. Yeah, and I love the song on it, man. Like, it really. Like. Kind of just gave me a vision for someone that I relate to and aspire to be and how they think and how they feel and how they like, manage the stress of that and stuff like that. so I felt for anybody that's like a 30 year old, which checks out because Big Sean popped when we were like in high school, you know what I'm saying? So like, that is his core fan base group as he grows and just talks about what he's going through in his life if he still does it. I like the pinnacle of his pen. It's still going to hit me like the true fan and, growing with him and evolving with him. And that's like, I mean, do that as a that's art, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like being a. Rapper or shared experience. Yeah. Fuck the business side of it. Like make it money. Like that's dope. You know what I'm saying? That's dope. To be able to grow somebody like that. Yeah, that's super cool. It's like I. Yeah, I just kind of had the thought while you're saying that that we did sort of the same way that like Luke and Derek and I with you and like everyone's like our friend group and our surrounding friend groups are like having kids and growing up in that sense. Yeah. It's like we got to see, like Drake and Big Sean, like, have a kid, you know? Yeah, like. We know them. Kind of like that. Like, oh, I know he's got a kid. It's crazy. Right? Yeah. It's cool. Definitely bring something else out of you. Yeah. For sure. I think, There's a lot of things I think about it. One, I think that it's like, it's a it's a archetypical thing that happens. I think it's like a story thing that happens. So for you, for you to naturally go through a lot of changes when something that's going to change you is occurring. It's not I don't even think it's it's funny because I wouldn't think it's biological in nature. Like, why would my biology change? You know what I'm saying? Why would I get stronger? Or like, why would my physique, like, change? Like I'm putting on weight and stuff like that and like a different way? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like. But if it's archetypical in the story, the story is bigger than the biology. Like, of course my biology would change. You know, I'm saying you could literally become a different person. You do become a different person because here's what happens as you navigate the frequencies that your energy can exist on. It radiates to what you are. You know what I'm saying? What you are today and what you are tomorrow. The glow you have on your skin, the way your smile looks when you smile at somebody, the the deepness in your eyes can change overnight, dude. And it's like not every experience is so transformative, but we are not so bound to this physical being that we feel like you see in the mirror every day. Yeah, it's not the case. If someone goes through something traumatic, you'll see something in their face change and they're not the same person, you know? Yeah. But also like if you see someone that, you know, just went IPO and they just went from having like barely getting by. So they just now they're worth like $2 million and they're getting that salary coming in now they got a bigger house. Now they got a boat company's doing well. That person's smile, they're fucking whoa. Yeah. The whole physiology. Yeah. They're the biochemistry right. Yeah. And when you're, you know, the opposite spectrum of that, that's how you have like, you know, you see that guy smoking cigarets and he's going bald and he's out of shape and he's hairy everywhere. It's like, what's the what is that? What is that thing? You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, it seems to me that you're the the manifestation of the reality that you're living in is highly based on, like, your belief system philosophy. What kind of thoughts that allows you to think, what kind of mantras you have, whether or not you're conscious of them or not, or they're hip hop lyrics or there's something you self read in a book. Yeah, like what do you tell yourself every day? So like I'm Aspro. Self talk is big. Bro. It's huge. It's like a fucking radio that your mind's listening to. All day, all day long, every day, all day. So all that to say, Big Sean is great in the sense that I would want to I want here's what I want to do with that record. I want to buy a fucking. Record player. Record player, and then I want to get the vinyl of that. And I just want to play it when I'm cleaning the house or when I'm fucking doing something, and I just need something on in the background. That's maybe not just like random TV, just like play that. So that way it's just like kind of like on as a vibe that like, you know, any, you know, also maybe you know, my kid one day if I'm doing that will just like be rapping Big Sean at me and not even know if I kids like just walk around being like, how can I get any better than this? I'll be like, let's go. Good baseline. Yeah. Good baseline, good baseline. I love that album. Yeah. It's good. I'm fucking with it. I'm fucking money. This is where you're talking about better me than you. That's what it's called, right? Yeah. Big Sean yeah. Just came out last week. Yeah. Sometime in that ballpark. It's great. Love that guy. Love like that. Following him since. Yeah, we were in high school. Long time. So, like 12, 12 plus years, bro. That's a long fantasy. Really cool. So many. We can go down talking about hip hop them down. one thing is that about that album is what I am sad about. I'm not critiquing Big Sean at all because I love it so much. But I. Wanted like. The bangers that would be my anthem. There's like a playlist in my Spotify that's like my soul. Okay? And Big Sean song used to be number one on the playlist. That was my soul. And I'm like, where's that? Where's my where's my tomahawk? You know what I'm saying? Where's my Jordan's flu game moment? Like, I need something from you that's like that's why he's my favorite rapper. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And I'm not saying it didn't have that, but it. I felt like it was lacking the punch, man. Where's the punch, bro? You know what I'm saying? We've been punches in, like, like like a bank or like a, like a gym banger. Or. Like what? Like, what do you mean? I need that gym hype banger that's also like, man, like, like fourth quarter freestyle. There's, like, I turn my click faculty when I'm done, they go statue me touchdown in my city, a fucking walk in target like I don't know man. This it's so hard. But it's also so like a spot like what I truly aspire to be. You know what I'm saying? He's not out there saying, like, I'm turning into a mob boss. I got people working under me, you know what I'm saying? He's saying, like. I turn my click faculty operation to factory. Like, I don't know, it's just, like, different, you know what I'm saying? It strikes me as like a more not like, appropriate, per se, but it's just like metaphysical is deep. It's exponentially more energy to manifest than something like real that we could touch. So if it's his stuff is just like from such a different perspective that I think it's like more true and more effective. So it's like, I don't even want to listen to that other shit because it's not true. I can't like, apply. It's not applicable. It's just like. I'm rolling Rock and. It's like, I like that shit, too, I do. There's a part of me I want to be like, just go crazy. But it's like, Big Sean had this way of saying some shit that I was like, that's why he's better than everybody else, bro. That's crazy man. That's like. We feel like I didn't have that. Where was it? Do you know. I don't know, I don't know, I guess. I don't know, I guess I just kind of heard it throughout the album or I guess as, as I listen to it in one long take. So I didn't really break it down by like, song by song because I only know the songs exactly, but I definitely heard it all the way through at least once and every, every song. Maybe sometimes multiple times, like a couple songs like come to mind for sure. Like yes yes yes yes yes, my gym banger. There's like the this is the energy behind it, you know, just the energy behind it or the, the intention of the energy. Okay. Yeah. That song is. That's heart. Yeah. That song is, that's what. Gets me there. That's all I'm saying. That something you can put in your bag. That's the thing too. You can be like. No, motherfucker. Yes. Yes. And then that's like, what is it happening for me? What that means to me is when something is like a roadblock or a no, it's like, I can't do that. It's like. Yeah, the can't do the the no. Yeah. The roadblock. It's like, nah, fuck that. I overcome. I make it happen. It's the make it happen. This comes out from the. Foundation of I'm a I'ma get it. Done or don't take no for an answer like I've been given that advice. Just like don't take no for an answer like that. You know. There's a way you can. You can say, you can say no to a no sometimes. Yeah. And that's powerful. You know what I'm saying? And a no to a no is a yes. It's a yes. Yes like exactly. Yeah. And And so yeah, that sounds like something you pull, you can pull that out of your back. You can use that like old Big Sean, like bro, like, finally, well, finally famous Big Sean was like one of my favorite albums of all time. I don't even think that he. Like, like the first one. The studio. Yeah. With the very, with the red cover. Yes. That album was whole. It was complete. Like, truthfully, I'm like, that was good football, boys. We're going to run. It just like that smash. Make him just like though I used to that, It had freakin. It had everything you could want. I had I do it, which was a radio banger. That was also a gym banger. Yeah. And my last. Chris Brown singing. Like an ass. I had asked club banger, memories. Memories. Get to your heart and soul touch. All that song. That song is Big Sean. You know what I'm saying? If there's one song that. That's the one. I think that's the one. And if you've never heard it, great song Memories by Big Sean. The intro to the album is amazing. It's just like 45 minutes of him. Kind of like a second. Sorry. It's long, longer. 45 seconds of him. I think he's just kind of like rapping, right? Yeah, he's. I think he's rapping on the beats of memories. Yeah, right. It's like a talk, like talking, rapping. It's kind of a spoken word, almost. Get it? Let's go so far. Go go go go city I'm a bad man. And then I was a slave man. Long enough to dream. So I. Did. Yeah. He's been going hard. He's been going hard. But the couple songs on that, on his newest shit that I'm fucking with. Yes, for sure, for sure, for sure. Typecast. I like typecast a lot. Yeah. I've never hear that song thinking. It was good. It is what it is, is really good too. Yeah. And then. those are like, kind of like more of like, Jim Jim tempo songs, but then also, something is the other one I like a lot too so far something. Yeah. Everybody got those are the. Yeah. But I got all those up there. Yeah. Because yeah it's like. Isn't that a nice thing to have to send your house. Right. Exactly. Cuz I have, I got. Some this is fags. Everybody go do something bro. Everyone's going. Through it. We're all going through it. That's what I learned at my last job. Like two jobs ago. Didn't know that last year. It was like a keystone lesson just to like, just to have more empathy for the narrative that everybody's living. So like. Was there like a particular instance or something that, like, happened to switch that, flip that switch? So two jobs ago, I was definitely just more, one of the keystones was Michael Jordan. Learn to be more like Michael Jordan. But then it got to the point where like, yeah, when Steve Kerr like, punches Michael Jordan because he's just like I mean pushing people. Bullying, almost borderline bullying. And bullying. Such a it doesn't feel like you're doing it until you're outside of the washing machine. And you're like, I guess in a sense, I definitely was like being pushed. In for. Sure, antagonistic, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's bullying, you know what I'm saying? But pushing he push and push it literally. Yeah. It's also like this weird thing where I also thought we were kind of like the best of the best around. Yeah. So if you weren't, like, performing or honoring or respecting that, it was like you could just leave, you know what I'm saying? You know, what are you doing here anyway? Yeah. Like you're not talking about this is not complaining about these standards. These are done complaining about these standards. But you're having, like, a really rough time again, pissed off at me for for being the one person to ask you, aren't you living up to the standards? You know, but then, like. I went down the Michael Jordan train. And. I had like, three days left before I was leaving for a better opportunity. And this dude, like, slapped me in the face. Yeah, I remember this. I remember this story. I was like, you know. Dude, you're not. Doing a job. You're playing. I guess you're late today. Late every day. What the fuck did? Because I didn't really start that. But it started with me being like, bro, I'm tired of backpacking your section, like, can you please. I don't want to take care of both sections. And then it turned into a whole fucking thing and then resulted in him like, he, like, tried to slap me, like, almost like a Will Smith moment. I kind of leaned back and he just, like, got my lip brushed you. And I was just like, my lip popped and was like bleeding a little bit, but then like, heard it all, you know what I'm saying? I was just like, bro. I'm getting brushed. And then I. I left prick. They were just like, say bro, you don't have to finish you two weeks at school. But it was like one day left and I was like, all right, all right, that's cool. Whatever, bro. Fucking weird. So leaving that and also the thing was, is that I left because they didn't want to give me a raise in a promotion and I left for that, raise a promotion. But I got slapped. And then when I went into this new place, I was like, maybe, maybe the reason I guys slap me is like to them, they were like, that's why we didn't want to hire that guy. I mean, like, he literally got slapped by someone he works with. Like, that's not someone we want in a leadership position. Oh yeah. Okay. So you're saying. That's kind of like maybe our hesitancy validated in that sense? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, fuck y'all, man. Like I don't. Want to be. Yeah. You know, I was I was like. Well let me look inward. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And then we're at the new place and then we're going to fucking war every day, start a new business is no easy task. Yeah, just. Going about right. New business starting in like the busiest time of the year for that particular type of industry. Going ham, going nuts and having to figure it out every step along the way. Right. So. Just the way that I saw those people work and I saw them come in and I could relate to them because I'd been in their position also, I was in charge of them. So I saw like from like a over like a third person perspective instead of being in one experience. I saw 40 experiences of the new, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then from that perspective, watching the people that cared and committed and like, rounded the corner and like we set the expectation, we set it verbally. We showed what it could look like. And then we gave like a literal example of us being that way. And some people rounded the corner and became like the Cirque du Soleil archetype that we kind of demanded, you know what I'm saying? And that's it to me, because I've been to the struggle of being new and new in that environment and having to to round that corner myself. And I just, like, earned so much like, so it was like the Grinch, like my heart grew like four times the size. And I was just like, man, when I look at them and see them messing up, I just wonder, like, are they okay? Or if they're lazy or if they're like not performing their attitudes bad? I'm just like instead of being like, hey, what the fuck? This is Chicago, baby. We're going on a playoff run, bitch. This is hey, And said. I'm like. You know, are you okay? Like, what's that? Like, how can I help you? How do I help you get back? Like, what do you need? Let's just, like, get you right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And, I the reason that's not a shorter story is because, like, life pushed that into me. I didn't, like, really go out to seek that other than just, like, being aware. And then also when they earned my respect and my appreciation and it made me want to like, chill out. There's also another part of me that's like, maybe that's not good. Maybe you need to be like, it's a better tactic to win more championships if you just, like, push people like that. You know what? I'm saying? Push yourself like that. But it just felt. Like. I was sitting there feeling and I was like, I don't think that's the way to, like, win right now. I don't think that's going to help these people play better. You know, like, I think that being more supportive and more empathetic and applying more love, what that at least what that is to me, you know, is going to boost the performance and get us closer to what we need to win in this situation right here, for sure. And, I don't know, man. I think that's just to me, that's like how character growth happens. That's how it happened to me in the last like, book of my story. You know. That was like true change that happened within me. And, no, no, no. That's cool. Yeah. Everybody going through something? Yeah, bro, that's the thing. That's the thing, man. Like, yeah, I'll deal with this. I don't know what's going on in their life. Yeah, I guess it demands it's always a balance. It's always the underlying truth of fucking everything. But it definitely is. You need to have empathy and love. Lead with empathy and love, for sure. But you also need to be their standards. You know, their standards, and we need to uphold those. And, accountability and responsibility. You know, it's like it's a privilege and or, it's kind of, if you like, take that away from somebody. It's like you're taking away the chance for them to rise to the occasion. So that's not good. So it's a balance between the love and that. Not fear necessarily, but like the enforcement of standards for sure. Because one thing is like if you can't play to the standard almost think you belong there. That's what the standard is. Okay. So then that's the line. We're talking about this Michael Jordan tyranny. Like it's a bad thing, but like that's really the spirit unnecessary. Yeah. Right. It's necessary to a degree. But then I realize that these people. I mean like. These people are paying their rent, you know what I'm saying? Like they're paying the rent with the money that we're paying them. It's not like they're buying Lamborghinis with it. It's like they're just, like, barely getting by with it, you know? and so sometimes it's like, that pulled more grace out of me when I saw somebody that I thought was under the standard and should leave. And then I saw them, like having a rough time and not, like, looking like they're having very much fun while they're getting their ass kicked. And then I realize that this is like, they're only doing this because they have to pay their bills anyway. Because they feel the need to. Right? Yeah, they have to. Right. And in that moment, I'm just like, just help them. Just help them. Like, I don't know, you know, just help them because I think gravity's going to happen anyways. Like, if they're going to I don't have to take them out of the situation. The situation will take them out of the situation if that's what's going to happen. But if all I want to do with my soul in myself, it's just help them well, while I have the chance, you know, that was like one of those things that, like, clicked in the character change. What changed my perspective in a place was when I, like, saw that person having a bad time and then it was like, click. And then I just went over and started doing shit as much as I could, you know what I'm saying? because like, who am I to be like, fuck this, get them out, get them out. I don't want to be the executioner like I fucking don't, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I guess if you're going to be the king or the person who's in charge or like, running, like who's judgment, we're going forward with, it's like you need to be able to to pass the sentence. You know, we shouldn't just be beheading everybody for the little ass shit. It's a fine. Balance. It's fine balance. Candy, burn everybody alive. Turn to the mad King. This is a good question. Do you want to watch the kingship? Because we talk about that kingship. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so let's just. Let's just like, let's say I am like a king of a country. Like olden times, like five hundreds. I've got like a. Yeah, medieval times. Medieval type shit. And I'm saying, yeah, okay. So they're not super huge kingdoms, but like, you. Know, we got some land and shit. Right? And you got a kingdom, okay? Right. And then we meet each other, and then it's crazy because we don't know very many people that are like leading countries, right. so, like, how do you handle capital crimes in your country? Couple of times. Really like murder. Yeah. Well, I don't know what you do in capital crimes. Okay. This is one of my other questions. You know what I'm saying? For instance, like, cattle rustlers. Okay. Yeah, I stole cattle. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They were. That's a capital crime in Western culture. So they would just get executed. Even though stealing a cow right now wouldn't get you executed. You know what I'm saying? Sheesh. You see, I was much more important back in the day. Yeah, because I guess it was kind of. It was fucked because eight guys on guns with guns and horses could steal 100 cattle. And if you had, if you were a rancher and you had a hundred cattle and they stole all of them, and one day, like your family would die, like it was the depression, like you couldn't you'd be cooked. You know what I'm saying? You're not going to. Make any money. Yeah, you're done bro, right. Yeah. You probably owe money on the house and the farm anyways. So you're like, the debt collectors are coming. It's a whole thing and that. But if you're like a farmer, you can't steal a crop. You know what I'm saying? If there's, like, plants everywhere and they're like selling corn, you can't. You can't like, steal someone's whole farm settlement in, like, an afternoon, but you could take their and take. All their cattle. Yeah, exactly. So then I heard this on fucking Joe Rogan. I'm not. This isn't research. I did, but just to share the story. So to get some context. Okay? Okay. So then these cattle rustlers, they treated it like murder. Like if you were someone who stole cattle from people like that, they just executed you. They were like. I was like, don't do it type of thing. Like a discouragement, you know? So in our country. Yeah. Hell, yeah. Cattle ranchers are horrible. I don't know what timeframe are we in. Right? I don't know. Viking times. Yeah. Medieval times, thousands of years ago, let's say 2000 years ago. Yeah, it's definitely cattles cattle. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But I'm saying, do you guys execute people? I kind of have to, I think. So is there any country that doesn't have a death penalty? That's a good question. That's a good question. Lord. Justin, I haven't met. One country. Or one country. One never seen one. One kingdom that doesn't have a few heads on the on the walls. All right. Because I guess, to what degree do you need that that discouragement, that level of discouragement, people are going to do shit anyway. People are going to be give a fuck anyway. But the amount of people that would enter into that give a fuck category would be a lot less. I guess. Presumably if you had some sort of penalty or some sort of negative ramifications for being a piece of shit. So. Right. So being a good parent. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I've had this like in my mind before, but it's like being a king or being a president, whatever. Running some shit, running a country, running a kingdom. It's like being a father. It's a being a, a parent, you know, like you have to like, how do you raise children to be independent and wise enough to make their own decisions without being too much of a tyrant and controlling their every move and being, like, unjustly, whatever, you know? Yeah. Hard. That's a great it's a fine balance. It's it's a fine balance. You can't let your kids do anything all the time. Of course, it's like, yeah, I can be doing that. I can just do what they want to do all the time. Can't be doing that. I think I get along with other people. It's like you need to encourage that type of behavior and at least to have a negative association of signs or other types of behavior or social interactions between themselves to, you know, there's it's a fine balance, but I think. There needs to be. Ramifications. There needs to be there needs to be a fucking bell. That needs to. Be a beheading. I agree, people need to feel safe, like the regular people. They, they need to feel like we're doing something about that. Yeah, right. Right. Otherwise, they'll just guess that was. Well, why wouldn't they just take someone else? Like, I think we want them to like us or want our reign. Yeah, I think Jordan Peterson. Saw around my country. Some people don't give a fuck. Yeah, right. I think he's mentioned, I guess the need for, like, a justice system or like a properly implemented justice system as far as, like action, reaction or cause and effect and how we deal with it. Because then it's like if he's like, kill one of my family, then I come back to your family and then you come back and kill for my family. Then we come back and kill, you know, say, it just never stops, right? It never stops, right? So I guess ideally, the justice system would alleviate the need for or the, inclination towards vengeance. Revenge? Justice. Yeah. Making your own justice. Right. We need to stem and other us. We outsource that. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, man. It's crazy. Yeah, I think that some crimes are probably worse. the though we could just banish them. Banish the crime person? Yeah. You've been banished. Exiled? Yeah. Just kick him out of the city. Right. But if that's murder, you know, that might be murder. Anyways, because you're, you know, they're going to die in the wilderness. Yeah. Let's see. But then I'm just going to go be murderous fucks with the whoever else they go with. Right. I guess hypothetically, what. If it's a crime of passion. You know? yeah. The the context matters. The situation, the circumstances. Yeah. Like everything that plays into it. The context important. The brother sold half the farm and the other brother killed him because the. It meant that the whole farm was going to go away. And it's like you've been charged with killing your brother. should we execute that guy? Yeah. Our guy comes in, sees his wife cheating on him. That's kind of passion, right? Is that is. That is deemed. Yeah. Yeah. I think it also kind of has to be like, not premeditated at all. So if you just, like, pick something up and does it, you know what I'm saying. That's a crime of passion. But if you like went and bought a gun. What a. Lawyer. What a lawyer that made that. Shit is like. Yeah, right. Someone probably went ham on defending this guy. So he's like, gosh. I need to, I need to fucking. Go a little bit out of my ass. What, this what. You've been passionate. About anything in your life? It probably was just the case. The guy is like, I lost control. It's empathy, I know. Yeah, I know what I was doing. I just. Blacked out. Yeah. He's like, it sounds like. Passion to me. You're blinded by love. Love is blinding and is blind itself. Can you blame him? Can you blame the man he's in love? Scott freed up. Yeah. Terrible, terrible. But this is this is. These are the questions someone. Is had to think about this shit. Yeah. This is how society is made. We need justice systems. We need something in place to make the people feel safe who aren't committing the crimes. Because if there's no repercussions for anyone doing fucked up shit, then it's not. It's just. Context matters. Context matters. I remember when I was in sixth grade, I got into a fight at school. Scratch that. Seventh grade. Okay. Okay. Middle school scrap. Where I went to school, there was on average, I would say 0.7 fights per day just in that locker room. About like 4 or 5 days a week, 4 or 5 fights a week. Yes. Then we'd have weeks where there was a fight that day for sure, because I remember at one point thinking to myself, this is. A. Real moment in my life. I was like. Oh yeah. Everybody in this room is going to have to fight someday because everybody eventually fights it just different every day. And eventually, yeah, it's different. It was or wasn't. There was a Usual Suspects. I feel like there was repeat offenders. I mean, there was a lot of people that once it got started, were basically like pulling out money and starting to like bet on stuff or like they'd start rubbing the dude's shoulders, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh shit, it's going down today. You're up baby, let's go. It's your turn. Seventh grade. Yeah, yeah. So how old I was at 12. 13. That was 13. I could have been 14. I could have an eighth grade. But I think it was like seventh, eighth grade, you know, and, Fucking criminy, dude. Yeah, man. I was just like, you know, one of these days. The all these happened, all these fights happened where, like, in, like, the gym locker room for. The most part. Yeah. I got hurt because. Because when I was in eighth grade, it got to the point that there was like police sometimes like a security policing. Yeah. Policing. And that if you got into a fight and it was just like on school grounds, like you'd be like getting fucking tackled, maybe even getting arrested, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah. And, That's crazy. What was the principal's? What was the principal's mindset? I'm sure. I'm wondering, during this. I don't know if she drove a Mercedes. I was going to tell them. Yeah. She give a fuck. I think she always had this red Mercedes parked out. He didn't give a motherfuck. Yeah, so she was. I'm kidding. I'm joshing. Joshua. It was a weird situation. She was like A59 white lady in her 40s driving a red Mercedes. And this school was kind of in the hood. I mean. Fights every day. It was a smaller town, so it was like the only really school you could go to in the middle. School, like in the town. There's a public and a private school. Okay. Most people went to the public school. Private schools had small. So yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's kind of a it wasn't like, alcove of, like, really terrible area that some places have, but it was just like the only school that had, you know what I'm saying? So anyways, locker room was a bit safer, you know, contain that fight. Okay. Well, fight. Let them fight. Break it up, get the showers, notice anything? No one says a word for the coaches during all of this. Where's the. Teachers? Where's the authority? Fucking letting us get sharper. Making men out of those boys. Boys too, man. Bus, bus! Whoa! So we didn't. Know anything about that Penn State coach there was. But, not no Sandusky. But, there were, Slovak. Sometimes. Ever let us duke it out? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck, I don't know, where's the supervision? Where's the regular vision? I don't know, man. So, Christ. At some point I get into this. I don't know what it is. So it's your turn at your time? Yeah, it's been enough weeks. And the fights have passed. Right. Where's our beef between you and this other guy? Or so? What are we going to say? I'm getting ahead of myself, you know. Well, it was just weird because this guy was kind of my friend. His name was Jeremy. He was also one of the white kid. Okay? He, I remember, like, between seventh and eighth grade, I, like, coached him up on how to play basketball because I played in seventh grade and he wanted to play in eighth grade. So like, we were cool, I think. But then. He was like, talking shit to me in the locker room. And then I was just like. I don't know, for what? I don't remember, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Just like for social points. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So like, simple social jockey hierarchy, it. Was like after practice and I can't remember if he was talking shit about my, like, performance or like. X y z, I don't know, I don't even fucking remember. And I'm sorry, but enough that I just, I was just like, whatever. Fuck you. You know what I'm saying? and then he just, like, was like, backed up and was like, yeah, fucking it. Just so it's kind of going off to everybody. And I was like, fuck you, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like whatever. And he's like, oh. Yeah, fuck me, I'll fuck you. And I'm just like, what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? Super. Like once you fucking fight me or something, you know, and I remember just being like, oh, yeah, is fucking. This is my turn. It's fucking Jeremy. This isn't bad at all. I can fuck with Jeremy's. Thank God I got fucking this guy for Vince. Could be way worse. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There was, like, I had a worst fears scenarios. Probably. Now, sometimes I was like, that guy's gonna fucking kill me. No. Okay, so whatever. Do we, like, fight. Right. And then, I remember just, like, pushing him and then, like, maybe he hit me in the body or something like that, and then I just kind of, like, wail on him like one, because, like, he's, like, falling backwards. And then I well, on him a couple times, and I kind of just like, get out of there, like, that's it. You see what I'm saying? That's it. What does that say? Right. Okay, cool. Does nobody say fucking anything? You know what I'm saying? Nice. And then I'm like, leaving. And I don't even really remember feeling a high about that. I remember feeling nervous. I was like. I'm in trouble. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And then out of nowhere, on the way to lunch, from the gym to the fucking lunchroom, there's like a space outside and there's like a ag shop, like where they were would weld and stuff like that, and and this, like, outside little unit in this, little like, it was like in the back of the school too. It wasn't like a courtyard or anything like that. Just like parking lot, kind of from the gym to the where this lunchroom was going to be. And then he just runs up to me and like, from behind, I didn't even know he was coming. Pushes me on to like, my face, you know what I'm saying? And then starts like punching me in like the back of the head are like kind of. And I'm like, yo. And then I just like, roll over and then get him. I kind of like on top of him and then roll him over onto his back. And then I'm like, don't want to punch him in the back of the head, you know what I'm saying? So I kind of like, punch him in the back a couple times and then just like stand up and then just start walking to lunch. I'm just walking to lunch, bro. Fuck that. I'm out of their shit. But then they grab me and take me to the office and then like, call my dad. And they're like, basically saying I need to be suspended from school and go to ISIS for the rest of the year because they have a no policy on fighting at the school. Get the fuck out. So they're going to remove me from school and send me the fuck in. Just ISIS keep. It in the locker room, kid. Bro. Gotta keep it in the locker. Jeremy, you fucking asshole. You prick. You broke the sacred vow. Okay? But this is a sick moment of my life, right? Because my dad comes in and, like, I don't even know what's going on. I'm just sitting with the assistant principal. I'm fucking crying like a pussy. Oh, my God, I didn't even want to file suspended. And then, my dad's, like, talking to this awesome principal, and this is real. So, like, yeah, we have no, We have. no. And, yeah, zero. Tolerance. Zero tolerance policy. There it is. So, like, there's not really anything I can do. And I'm like. My dad's like, you're telling me that this kid right here who's, like, sobbing right now because he didn't want to fight, this guy doesn't want to get suspended. He's on your honor roll, plays every sport. This dude right here who fought with one of his teammates on the team, like you think that this guy deserves to go to suspension, like, outside of the school for the rest of the year? Like, can't go to classes anymore, like nothing. And then he was like, I mean, I agree with you that it feels like that maybe wouldn't be the best solution here. And then he's like, okay, then like, why do you have a zero tolerance policy? Like, and my dad just starts saying, I can, I can name two reasons why someone might get into a physical altercation with someone else at this school, and there's no way that they should be removed. Like, what if someone's self defending themselves? What if, they've been bullied all year long and then they finally just like, don't know how to deal with it because they haven't talked to a counselor and then it results in like a physical altercation. Like, what if, a teacher is harassing a student and they don't know how to talk about it, and then it turns into a physical altercation, like, are you also going to kick those kids out of school for the rest of the year? And he's like, well, no, probably not. In those situations. It's like, so you don't have a zero tolerance policy, then like you say you do, but you don't. And then this person was like, hold on, I'm going to go, I'm going to go talk to I'm going to go to the principal, see if I can get her, and just see what she thinks about the situation. and then the principal comes back in, the principal's like, okay, what we want to do here is we we would like to suspend Matthew for three days. Just stay home, come back to school in three days, and, we'll talk about, maybe signing some paperwork, saying that if we get anything else the rest of the year that we're definitely gonna have to talk about outside school suspension or something like that. And, my dad was like, okay, great. Sounds good. Then we walked out and then we were driving home, and I remember just being like, that was fucking crack, dude. Holy shit, that was crazy. That's just words, bro. Using your words. yeah. What? That was like, you heard the story and it was just like, didn't even know what to do. He was like, oh, yeah, you can just, like, play Xbox. Whatever. It's cool. Don't don't worry. But don't do it again. You're chilling. Yeah, yeah yeah. Donkey cut. That. That was like, kind of fucked me up moment cause him, like, the same way a lawyer some day was like, what's a crime of passion, your Honor? What do we do here, your honor? Come on. What are we doing? Are you a married man? Your honor? Right. You come home, your wife's getting plowed. Like a field in the spring field hospital? Yeah. Field in the summertime. Oh, jeez. This. Yeah. So I feel like, it just showed me that, like, I don't know, man. You backspin or something like that. You can fucking use some words. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just wiggle out of, like. And you can say no to a no. And I was like, no. Zero tolerance. Bullshit. Yeah, you can tolerate this. You can tolerate this. Like real talk. That show is cool though. Yeah. Yeah. I guess we're talking about punishment or how do we get into. This zero tolerance. Policies. Okay. That's what I'm getting to. Okay okay okay okay. For our kingdoms. Context matters. Yes. Right. There we go. Who the person is. What happened? Why? What the relationship is? Yes. What's the history here? What's the movie? If I've been watching enough of the movie, I know what I want to have happen. You know? Yeah, yeah. I know what I deem to be justice or. Like, what I'm looking for. In my mind, I hadn't. Gotten to my second chance yet. I feel like if I fucked up again, then I'd be like, okay, this is your last chance. You know? It's all two chances. What do you mean, right? As far as movies go, you know what I'm saying? My third strike. You play baseball. You American, you know. Why did. We adopt? It's one, two, three, a fucking baseball. Three strikes and you're out of the ballgame. Where the fuck the song is? But why did that become a presupposition for our judicial system? Like some some guys? A good rule of thumb, I. Guess. That was Jefferson was like, that's how we should run things right there. One, two. The third time. Get them out of there. You're out. That's the last. I mean, what are we gonna do? Watch it fail again? Yeah, a fourth time. Fuck out of here. Well, my watch. But rule of thumb you're saying. Yeah. Or it seems maybe like, maybe like a universal thing or I think Jordan Peterson has mentioned also that as well. Like as far as like using three, a three count of an occurrence of something happening three times for it to like justify or maybe to suggest that it's more than just mere coincidence or happenstance. Right? You know, if it happens once, a lot of things just happen once. But if it happens twice, like, okay, I notice that the first time I'm seeing it, the second time, I guess he was he was saying this to use this kind of reference in, I guess in, I guess through psychology or whenever he's doing, like social work or people who are in that field, or I guess if you're trying to talk to somebody about their behavior, it's like, I know one time is one time two times I notice it the first time, and the second time is also making itself apparent to me. But then the third time it's like, okay, no, no, no, no, okay. This is like, this is a trend. Now, if it happens twice, it's going to happen three times is going to continue, probably. Whatever. Hypothetically. on the receiving end to even my own spirit. If someone tells me I've done something three times in a row, I feel like it's super easy for me to be like, maybe you're right. Like, even if even if I disagree, the maybe you're right. Like, how could you deny someone that? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, right. But the context matters. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Depends on the accusation. Right. Like if first if I'm getting, you know, told that I've been staring at women's butts and then 3 to 3 separate times, like, I know exactly what we're talking about. And I remember the moment and I know that I wasn't staring at that girls. But it's like that context matters for just because you have three instances of, behavior, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm guilty of that accusation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's. Yeah. Through your own subjective lens, who knows what's really going on. Yeah. Yeah. True. Right. It's like I saw these things happen and it's like well like you may have saw them, but it wasn't necessarily in line with the truth of like the narrative of what's actually happening and what my actual intentions were. Right. You know. Yeah. She had juicy written on her butt and I couldn't quite read that. And what I was trying to do was read the words because it was confusing to my brain. I wasn't trying to stare at the butt. That's a joke. But it's also an example of what I'm saying, though, like. Yeah, if that were true. Yeah. Come on, the fuck. That. I'm just saying though, like, you don't really know. It's so hard to tell what's actually going on. Like, it's hard to think of an example just on the fly. But things all the time could look like it's something, but not really be that thing because you're not in that moment, actually, you're just witnessing it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But I think there might be something. There was like three times, especially with like, like winks or like things like that. That's where I like it. So yeah, that's why I like it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What. That's that third wink. Be that third. Link here because I'm like. The third time you see something and it's like, wow, just think about that, man. I just think about, oh shit. Okay. If it happens again I'm tripping out. And then sometimes it happens. That third time you were tripping out. You're like, whoa, yeah. Like this wall. I started to wonder if there was a like, Because the reason the Bible. Is the holy number. Yeah, it's a magic number, I think. Or has it has associations. You know. Let's say that's happened in threes. Yeah. Right. What's that? Third time's the charm. What's that? There we go. See. I love pondering this shit. Look at my. So wander away. What what what are we talking about when we're talking about the three. What is it. That's this like, because the Trinity in the Bible also three is not like just a holy number. It's like one of the biggest. Like, God presented himself three ways. And so. Whenever the three, six, nine or like those are, I've heard Tesla say that the laws of the universe are found within those numbers or something along. Those. Yeah. I heard Terrence Howard say Tesla said that right, right. Yeah. That's three. And if three three times. What are we talking about. We're talking here. Are we. Talking about. Something. About. So the Trinity. Two is a two is like a special number as well because it's like where the two or more gathered I'll be there. There's something about having two a duality. Yin and yang. Is the two a duality. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Two sides of a coin. Yeah. So two's also this, like special number and then three is something else. Like maybe like the world runs in duality, but spirituality presents itself in like, Trinity's a trinity. Yeah. Trinity's. It could be like, it's crazy because I'm like, there's no fucking I can't Google at this point. You know, saying that we're getting into space right. Astrophysics. Yeah. You're not. There. But I think there's something to it. I think there's something to what the especially when I just realized that the third time's the charm. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There's so many times that we use that as, like, some kind of moniker of. Yeah, validator or gives us some extra meaning. Some extra. We assign it extra meaning if it happens a third time. I guess I've also heard that that that happens in threes as well. That's a that's another common phraseology. And but I guess I've never really empathize with that in any fashion or form. Has it like cross you or hit you in any way in your life? There was never a time I can't be like my cousin, and my uncle and my cat all died on, like, Christmas, like 2005. there wasn't a time like that. And but there was definitely, like, when, aunt Carol passed, and then my mom had another friend that passed, and my mom was like, oh, yeah, I'm just, like, a little bit worried. Just because they say death happens in threes, you know what I'm saying? And we're being like, well. We got believe someone's going to die. Why are you why is that? Why are you bringing that into the ether? Well, we thinking like that. Yeah I know that happens in threes. I'm not sure where they. Who were that originate. Who the who was like. I've seen it enough times to say that this is a saying. I want to create this saying they. Probably came from writing. That happens in three. Oh yeah, I guess I serious. I mean, it's killing characters off in like in plays or scripts. Yeah, that's what I was thinking with Shakespeare plays maybe like, okay, people die in threes. Maybe that became like, some phrase people adopted, you know, that, but I don't know if that's right. That's where my first thought went. But I think that writing itself like, are we not existing in writing? Is writing not a reflection of writing? We are. Is tis tis the Lord. So that's the thing. Like if if it's a some what church me out is if Shakespeare taps into that intimation that that happens in threes, then he writes it, then it's success could mean it's validity. It could. I'm not saying it does. But if something moves people, if art moves someone, maybe if it's because it's true, or maybe it's just because it's convincing or interesting. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Playing into our psychology of viewership, something we like as, like a, like something that salivates our mind up here is when death happens in threes. And that's why they do it, not because it's universally true. It's hard to know these things. Yeah. Because, I don't know. I can't I can't recall any instances in my life where I felt that truth or, you know, so I felt a truth within that phrase that we've we've been saying for a long time. My, my grammie and my uncle and my mom passed in my childhood and those were three super influential people in my life. I don't I don't group that as like a thing often, except we were trying to, like, group it right now. Yeah. but I remember thinking, like, when my grandma and uncle had passed, I remember thinking like, yeah, it's kind of fun. Like, they were like, I really loved them, you know what I'm saying? Like, years apart. yes. My grandma passed. No, it was right around, like, 15, 16 times. So, my grandma passed when I was like 15 or 16, and then my uncle died kind of suddenly, like, same kind of age, like right around there. maybe it was within like two years span. Okay. And I'm, we're being like. That's it's fucked. Like. This is gonna sound fucked up, right? Okay. I was like, why did you kill those characters off? You know what I'm saying? Like, some of my first brushes with death in my family were, like, ripping people that were super influential on me. and I was. I was like, that's ass. You know, I'm saying. And then my mom passing, like, five years later, it's like one of the most influential. That's the biggest one. You know what I'm saying? So it was like I could think about it like that. I could, but don't really very often think about like, death happens in threes. Look at my life. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know it's weird. Interesting. And how are you know this is like threes threes. So we're talking about. Strange things. Magic numbers. Think about anything else with three. Is there any other phraseology. Commonality. Universal sayings. Threes. Threes I don't know. But I remember definitely watching the videos. It was years ago though. But it was about like the Tesla kind of going into the philosophy behind that. I forget entirely what it was about. But I remember being like, oh shit, this is trippy. All this shit's got a trippy yo, I guess I was also, Was it? I don't know that it was how much of kind of like, scientific math talk angles, like splitting like a cell or having, like a, like a triangle and then a square and then, like, just adding more sides to it. I don't know, it was a it was a whole thing, just like shapes and scientific abstract, sort of like quantum level thinking is where like that kind of tied into Tesla was all that shit back in the day day. I think that's the. Code for. The quantum. Yeah. Like if God just used English and was like, yeah, what things happen in threes? Because it makes sense because of x, y, z. Like quantum mechanics would be like that. Just let me like input that into the universe, you know what I'm saying? So I think we can get back to the raw code of, of that, of those things happening like we're like quantum entanglements, real. Like I can prove it. It's like that's a mechanism for something. But we'd it's hard to just know what the mechanism is. You know what I'm saying? Unless you get Jordan Peterson saying, I. Know some of these mechanisms. And he's like tearing out, telling you, you're like, that's the mechanism. That's the axiom. That's that's I know that's the verbal reason why that thing is happening all the time. Okay. Yeah. And so the verbal reasons are more executable. It's more like we can actually use that in our life. You know what I'm saying? that's that's what I think about quantum mechanics and like, fuckin. Now that's so word quantum mechanics. Yeah. I think that's just like string theory and all of that, like physics and stuff like that on that level. that. Like, explains to some degree our existence on this earth, like the way. That. I talk about energy and attraction works and like, how your thoughts become reality and. How. Your reality can change, like, drastically from, like, year. To year, overnight. Overnight. And then that would change your biology too. And like all of those, like how you ended up where you ended up like, dude, I find this weird cosmic connection between, fucking and, you know, I'm trying to do this for you right now. San Antonio is a city, and there's another city that I just feel like it's cosmically connected to. Denver. It might be Denver, bro. Truthfully, which would have me trippin. What's the area code in Denver? I don't know. I can tell you. You can find out real quick. This thing is a city that's quantum entangled with San Antonio. Maybe it's Detroit. I'm thinking. Of. Or how so what? What brings us? Because here. We go. I think it's Detroit. What's the area code for Detroit? For two, three, one three? But what's the zip code of Detroit? Oh, that's you're saying. Yeah. Okay. Let me see. I'm sure there's a whole bunch, I guess. Let me see what they start with, because I guess I'll Texas is seven, eight seven, eight whatever. Yeah. Wherever, depending on where you are after that. Detroit zip code. I could have sworn that there's a Detroit zip code that ends in two. One. No, that Big Sean references at one point. Oh, okay, I guess. No, I was thinking I was thinking of, like, area code, right? 313 is like the Eminem. Everybody in the 313. Yeah. That's fire, that's fire. ZIP codes there. Start with, four eight. So 481 27 482014820248203. Maybe it was 4201. He said. 48 210. 4210. Yeah. Okay. So Big Sean says he's from 48 210 I'm pretty sure. Really? Yes. And that's how about 1040 821 is Wayne County. That's I heard him say something about that before. Right. Wayne County Wayne maybe that's where we got it from. Who knows? Wayne County. Yeah, I think I've heard him say that bar before. Okay. You with me? Yeah. Because I almost let it go. Almost like maybe I'm trippin. Nah. Continue. So the big Sean's from the county in Detroit. 47821. Oh, but that's area code here. 4821. 48210 or the 210. I was living in area code 78210 not that long ago. Okay. Okay, okay with me and with you hardworking people. Coach Traylor reminds me a lot. Of. Coach. Lions head coach Campbell, coach Dan Campbell. The similarities. The gruff in their voice, the southern boy in them. You know what I'm saying? Okay, dude, they're just like, when I. What? Because I was, like, trailers, like, freakin Jamir Gibbs version of Dan Campbell. What? What you. What do you mean? He's, like, a little bit lighter, a little speedier, a little quicker to the point, more composed, a little more hands on with it. Like he's a little more like. Like, no, he's not a Dan Campbell light, but he's like a more like, speedy, athletic hits the whole run and gets out of there. Okay, Campbell could take more hits, I think. Probably. But he's a big boy. Yeah, that's a big. Boys a tight end I'm pretty sure. I just think I think same. That's funny. Saying someone is the Jamir Gibbs of somebody else. Yeah. That's the Aaron Rodgers of Roger Goodell's. You know what I'm saying. Like he got an arm on him. He's like it. It's a it's a meme on the internet. But, Dude. Okay, so cosmic entanglement though. Why does Dan Campbell work there? Dan Campbell fucking works there. And Jeff Traylor fucking works here. Like, they have so much success since they've both entered those roles. And then I think just just to me, when I'm thinking about this cosmic entanglement, to think that the same archetypical character entered a cosmically entangled cities that is somehow maybe archetypical, similar, I don't know, because I haven't I haven't been to Detroit like that. but like, and then both of them are also having, like a ton of success from like a middling to like, lower stand with this archetypical character. it just feels like they're and I think this happens to people across the world too. Like you're going through something similar because you are something similar, because there's only so much coding for these quantum mechanics to to run this whole fucking thing that we're doing. Is. Beyond complicated. Super complicated. Beyond my comprehension. But I think that you can see these, like, ties between places sometimes they're like similar storylines kind of playing out, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, it's. Rare because we wouldn't really we know if it was like, this is just this state's demographics or just like the state's demographics. Like they they what do you call it, fuckin voted. they, What happens when you make someone president. Like you're, elected? Yeah. There we go. Yeah. They elected the same type of people across the board. They're the same laws across the board. The crime is the same. Like we would see that kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? On the numbers. And the numbers. But there's some similarities for sure across the board. Yeah. And I think there might be something in San Antonio, in Detroit, the same way that I feel connected to Big Sean. I wanna say Miami because we're connected big Sean, you and I, you know, I'm saying so because you and I are so entangled with him, we think that, maybe there are connections that present themselves that would help validate their thought or to help reinforce that thought. We have definitely felt entangled to to him for a minute when he's like, yeah, because he's going when he's going through shit or when he's. Whatever, I don't know. I guess maybe in his career of like one time, like the timing is really like how how you would identify all the shit. It's like the timing of things. And when you notice something and like, maybe the timing of when he's, like releasing music or whatever he's doing, what he's doing, coming, becoming a dad, growing up in his own right, it's like we're we're kind of in that same entanglement or experiencing maybe similar life change or transmutation of what's going on in our stories at the same time that he's feeling it as well. But I think that's a real thing going on. I. A what is that connection? Right. I think that we're trying to do the same thing. Maybe we're inspired by the same alien idea, like we're we're going down the same trajectory. Or if you had to paint what he, his life story is, and yet to paint what our life story is, maybe you'd use the same color palette because it's like a similar arc that we're going through. maybe we all have 100 Carmel lives we go through to learn 100 different character arcs. And this is but we're both on 97, like, and that's kind of crazy. Something like that, something like that. You know what I'm saying? Because that on the level that I tend to lean with it is that like if Detroit and San Antonio are two cosmically connected cities where this archetypical person is supposed to go, be able to do the thing that would, throughout time, perpetuate into. The. The thing that they need to learn what happened there. It's not farfetched for me to think that my my energy, my frequency, my being was gravitationally pulled to San Antonio through my life story to get me here so that I could be in the place where I'm in the churning of the thing, just like. Big. Sean was able to be born into the city where he was able to be turned into the thing that would make him the thing. And I think that, like, that's not far, that that's the gravity of that I think is like gravity dropping a pin, like we're pulled places, we're like drawn to things like we weren't. You're choosing everything you do all the time. But it's you. Are you what are you like? What are your choices? Are they free? Well, are they inspired? Are they biology? you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Where's the final decision come from? Right. Why do you want the things you want? That's a crazy. So anyways, when I think about like that, when I think about Nikola Tesla and quantum entanglement and, quantum theory, astrophysics, string theory, all that shit to me, that's that's what it looks like. It's not numbers. It's like how these divine explanations verbally for the craziness. That is the way that life works. Why deaths happen in threes. It's like, I think it's something like that, you know? Yeah. I read into the code. Yeah. What's going on here? Right. Maybe helps us see the code. Yeah. That at the quantum level that we know it's there. We could observe it, but we can't see it legitimately. It's like. There's. I think this part of the code literally is building our shit. It's kind of scary. It's trippy. When you get into the quantum level of things. There's definitely like 100% science on all of this shit, like the particle versus the wave when someone's observing something versus not observing it. Crazy shit. Our observation creates reality. Like what? Unexplainable. But there is, I think, these missing. Maybe there is some magical referencing or ties to some numbers or numerology. A lot of people put stock in numerology. Big number. I've seen a guy on TikTok talking a lot about it. Just talking about Michael Jordan. Like popularizing 23, I guess. Like the first because Michael Jordan, I guess, was born in, I think February 17th, something like that in 63. So he's like the first, the first number of your birthday. So for him it'd be two, I guess another the last number of your birthday, 20 of the year you were born. Rather. So the two in the three. I'm not sure what he was saying exactly, but about that. But what? I guess it's like a popular number for you. So my mine's 93 versus 84. Yeah, it was number eight and number four in high school and basketball in high school. It's crazy how many 93.93. September 3rd or December 8th 83. It's it's Trinity number I. Mean. Come on nine and three. That might be just like a triangle shaped like this in the fucking geometric realm of looking at reality that creates some kind of fucking illumination. I don't know. Can tell you can. Tell you, bro. Yeah, but I guess so. Either way, that guy is really, really big into. I'm sure if you've you, you may know the person I'm talking about if you've seen him or come across him on TikTok sometimes, but he's always talking about that shit. So people born on the fifth, the the 14th, 23rd, like they're going are they're going to be xyzzy sort of explanation. And like people who are born on the eighth, the sixth are the 17th, the 26th, it's like those people are going to be next to with this kind of characteristics. I was like, how much truth is there that that maybe he's like just tapped into the fucking coding of the world, maybe a little bit, maybe, maybe it's just true for him. But I'm not sure. I'm not sure how to take that and do with it extra stuff, I guess. We went with 38 for our numerology purposes. It might be genius. It might be genius because if they're trapped into something truer than true, you don't want to be tapped into that. Of course it. Yeah, of course I want to then. So these numbers just manifest themselves, bro. Like, that's the thing. Do you think everyone has like a, not a, like, a lucky number or like a feeling about numbers and that sort of way. Well I'm trippin that nine three is your. That that's my Jordan number. But then three is your number. Number. Yeah. Which would be the bridge between those. And I think my mom had a number which was 214. And it just presented itself periodically, often stood out. What was that mean for her? Like, what do you mean, what was it to her? Yeah, I think like 214. What was that? I don't know, February 14th, I was like, usually people have like either 1 or 2 digit numbers. That one's kind of weird, right? Yeah. Three digit number. Yeah. 214 like a time. I guess that's Valentine's Day. Yeah. I'm not sure what love. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't even think she knew it's like that. My sister and I were talking about it later, after she had passed, and we were just. He was just like. It's just like in the The matrix code. Like you ask me about it. Like we were talking about it somehow, colloquially. I'm not sure how it came up, but he was saying that it was like if her program was like a matrix code, like maybe it's just like the last three letters of the code and it just like manifests itself in the file all the time, you know what I'm saying? Like, and it's just it just seems like these numbers are our identity and in the programing, like, it's not even really something that we can help us very much or it could, but it's just there regardless. It's one of the more logical explanations for why astrology hits sometimes is that they tapped into the truth of you're born in this month with this moon that creates this personality type. Right? Then we also have like a calendar of when personality types are going through the archetypical season, what the result is for that personality type usually, and then they're just like, dude, sometimes I'm like. Today. Things are so trippy in my life. And I'm like, call my sister. And I'm like, yo, are we going through something like astrologically or something? Cause it's going on in the stars. Yeah. Just type. I'm looking for something. And she's like, clack, clack clack clack clack. Yeah. So it turns out we're actually in the last 16 days going through this thing called like a Lionsgate or there's like a major retrograde with something called a Lionsgate attached to it. And on August 8th, you'll be able to really push through that. And if you're able to get through the Lionsgate, you'll be like, very good, but it's going to kind of suck leading up to that point. And I'm just like. Okay, okay. Cool. I don't really want to play a lot of legitimate movie legitimacy to what you're saying because I'm a Christian. But within that time frame, we end up like getting funding and starting our own business, like Nocap. And then my my best friend Julian on the other flip side, as I came in, I was talking to this girl about, August 8th and all this, and you should just make
a wish like 8:00 on August 8th. And that's just going to, like, have a lot of power to it, for sure. Eight eight and. I'm eight, eight, eight. Dude, what are you, 38? What are you talking to me? What is it? Just brought that up under, on his own accord, but. Walking into the sauna. Get the fuck out of here. Swear to God, you're the fuck out of here, Julian. I'm not, I love you. Get the fuck out and come back so I can tell you. Get the fuck out again. Like that's crazy. See? Like, what the fuck is that? So, like, because, yeah, now we're getting that. We're tapping into some weird abstract realms of talk of thought and theory of, like, numerology and astrology and like, zodiac signs and the alignment of things and the timing of things is the fucking that's always been hitting me, but not always. But you know what I'm saying, people, I've been mentioned that for a long time now. The timing of things is everything. So it's just like, what the fuck's going on with all of those? All of those are kind of in reference to time, right? Like the numerology comes off of like your birthday and that's like, and so Zodiac or whatever the fuck the astrology type of shit going on, right? With your moons and the Mercury retrograde. The fucking Drake raps about that. Mercury retrograde is what I was made for, or whatever the fuck he says. Yeah, yeah. When the that's what I feel like happens on a retrograde and you got to. yeah, push through, push it through the g force. You're you're. Fucking brains just like. Jesus or you're fucking spiritual being is going through some shit. Yeah. Don't make a bad choice. Don't fold under pressure. Don't rise to the occasion or rise to the occasion. Yeah. Set yourself up, set yourself up. This is going to hit you. Just going to hit I think. We're not sure how much that's. So we're going to say. That's that's it though. It's so crazy how I was like it makes me feel like, And we turned it into words to express that feeling that I feel when he says, retrograde Mercury is what I was made for. It's like, I feel like that's what he's like. Describing is like the capacity to do that, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, first of all, we're talking about this. You described it so well and articulately crazy, crazy ideas. I think that's what Kings. Would have to talk about. We would talk about all this shit just to be like, what do you. Know about fucking people? Yeah. What's going on? Do you know about magic? Yeah. What magic? Do you know? You would just say it just said no. You didn't say. You'd have to ask, bro, because it was. Yeah, dude. So? So. Yeah. But then back to talking about these. You know, I feel like it's maybe just, simply a formula to create story. It's just like we've got, like, 12 roaming modifiers that are the months and then we've got like a roaming 16 month calendar that plays into the 12 month calendar. That is like what's happening to the characters that we've created by the months. And then there's special events that happen based on crazy years in numerology within the year two. And it's just. Like. That could just create all of the story that we ever it creates the magnetism. It's like how many people are living this story out like right next door, and we don't even know, like they're starting a business that power this in that same kind of timeframe, similar experience. Probably a lot. Right. But we would never know. We can never know. But it might be simply that that's why we can all look at the stars and your percentage of your thing, you can get what. Your. One 132 final percentage output is, is like you in one. You are 1/32 of the possible things going on right now. This is probably what y'all are going through in some way or another. It might be presenting itself as like a different physical thing, but the abstract thing that's happening to all these people during this time is something like this. Yeah, yeah. Because otherwise, why the fuck does any of that work? Well, why haven't we done that a long time ago? Some people have completely and entirely. They completely dismiss all that. Of course you do. But I did too, when I was. Who wouldn't? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. And it seems ridiculous. Ridiculous? It's ridiculous to think that just because of the, like, fucking constellation alignment and the way that stars and planets happen to be orbiting around the sun at a particular point in time, would that have anything to do with what's happening to me today? Right. It's like it's a far reach, but, I've, I'm I'm fully stretched out, like, I'm, I'm, I'm open to any and everything. I can't really say one way or another about any particular thing because I'm super. I'm just being super open to the possibilities. So I can't really dismiss it. I don't put a whole lot of stock into it, but enough. Enough to be open enough to let the miracle shine through. If if it's going to present itself through that. Right. Because guess. Yeah, we're also kind of getting into the what is that like the numerology and the astrology or the timing of things, the placement, alignment of the universe, the constellations had at one particular point in time, we're saying that that's like maybe, I guess, this kind of roundabout into what we're talking about earlier, a little bit about just the, the, the inner workings, like the quantum level of things and like how we can't really we don't even really know what's going on with quantum mechanics or quantum physics. Like 50 years ago, we had no fucking clue. So now we're like finding out more and more about this and then like maybe where is like kind of stumbling into and being revealed the some of the fucking universe, some of the inner workings of what's going on here, at least that what we can see. So maybe that might be like quantum physics and like astrology might be linked in that sort of way abstractly. Like they might, might both be pointing towards truths about the foundation of what the fuck's going on here. And maybe, like the creator created everything for us to, like, eventually figure out and find out ourselves. Unfold itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The joy of finding out what the hell is going on here. Because video games. Have to get better. It's not science, right? I guess it doesn't have to get better, but it just that when I talk about video games, it makes sense to me because, like, we're at a point now where like. Better in what way? It's like everywhere. Gameplay, graphics, storyline. I guess what it means is like, that's what makes it cool as fuck. Like that's what makes it like that's what makes me want to stay. Engaged with it is. Because the have the problem with not knowing about how to make it better all the time, like being like, this is all we got. The cool thing about that is we keep getting something better along the line too. So in life, there's all this like mystery and there's all this, like ambiguity and all this. We don't really know what's going. On a whole bunch in it. But getting a little bit more knowledge all the time. I think maybe like kind of stems off the feeling that it sucks that we don't know. It's because it would be kind of, why are we, like, kind of hopeless all the time and like, freaking out. Right? Right. It's a miracle. Honestly, a miracle if you're not freaking the fuck out right now. Right. To some degree, this is a this is a wild as thing, you know? Where are you? You see that? What do you think you are? It's like. Alive. Crazy. There's a whole bunch of unknown out there. Yeah. Whole bunch, whole bunch of scary, scary unknown things going on out there. Yeah, it's just some of it's scary because it's just unknown. And then some of it's scary because it's a fucking bear that wants to eat you in the forest or like the you're fucking your leader and you lead command of your army so I can turn it against you or betraying you. Whatever. All that shit, all that shit's out there. It's all just scary shit. So it's wondering. And it's a crazy wonder that we're not fucking just tripping out all the time. I agree, we got to put some simplification on this. Just handle my. Box. Right? so thank God. I think part of that is, is life itself unfolds more unto you all the time. Like, dude, Harry Potter. I remember reading the third Harry Potter and being like. Yo. This is sick. No, I. Think it was the fourth Harry Potter. Yeah, that's the one. That's where it starts getting fucking crazy cool. That's when you're like. Oh. Kids anymore. This. Yeah. That's what made it like not worth it per se to me. But like it reengaged me at that point. It made me feel wonder. I was like, oh my gosh, this is going bananas, yo. Fucking guy dies because the death is like, introduce. I guess people die in the first couple. Harry Potter's right. Yeah. But there's something so unlocking in that book. It's thicker, it's bigger. You realize that this world isn't just this anymore. And then while you're reading it, you're like, the whole time you're like, oh my God. Like, it's. I can't remember exactly what that feeling was, but I remember feeling like so thankful that it went from a straight line to like, to like a bubble out. I was like, this world is like crazy. Now. Yeah. Yeah, it evolved for sure, I think. Yeah, it. Was just a death book. Just a death that did that. Maybe not just the day. I can't, but I think it's a big that was a big a big turning point in like the children's book series to more of like a grown up. It's like, okay, this is getting real. And and the character who died too, you know, saying and how he died. And I said, oh shit. This is like this is happening. Like they're going to war. War for real. Like they're bad people are out there who want to kill you like it's going to you're going to run into those people from time to time, especially if you're if especially if you're going to try to be the most heroic version of yourself, they want to kill you the most. You know, I'm saying. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Dude, love that book. You right? That's what it was, dude, because it wasn't just. It was like, it's on. It's on. Voldemort was like a looming threat. And then the very end all, it was really him. It's like, no, dude, you like, killed him. He's covered for you. He wanted to kill Harry, but he got out of there. Just barely, bro. Because. Yeah, because. Oh, boy. Was was, He was supposed to be there. No, he was supposed to win and get to touch the cup and be teleported or whatever the fuck, but they both touch at the same time. Yeah, I guess Harry saved them or brought them with him. So when he's like, well, both. When I fuck this. Yeah, we made it. We made it through this bullshit. Yeah, dude. We both represent Hogwarts too, or whatever, you know? So yeah. And that and it ended up saving his life to some degree. Yeah. I also killed his friend. Yeah. Dude, I'm saying that she was nuts. So, like, turning. Point in the series for. Show. I think that's also that also happened to me when PlayStation two came out. I was just like. Whoa, whoa. Whoa, like, this is this went from being something that was kind of cool to like, Holy shit, this is awesome. and I think that life does that same thing to me sometimes when I go through a wormhole where I'm like, whoa, like getting a car was like that. Like I fucking go anywhere. This is. Crazy. Living in college was like that for the first time with my parents. I can do anything. This is crazy. I go to sleep and eat what I want. You know what I'm saying? And there's there's moments like, you know, when you have a little bit of freaking, you get like $1,000 in your bank account for the first time ever, you're like, I could buy anything. Because, like, I'm rich. Yeah. It's like fucking when those doors open up and create the new like, I remember first working at a restaurant and then I remember, like, understanding the restaurant fully. I was like, oh, that's so much nicer, you know what I'm saying? Now, I can really do what I'm doing here. You know. We, we breakthrough these little moments. Where. The world, like, reshapes itself again. Yeah, we have a change perspective or, a different, more broader perspective or a different way of looking at something or experiencing interpreting something, right? That changes it and enhances it, gives it more depth, more resolution. You're like, oh man, this fucking game is crazy. This game is crazy. This movie, this show, whatever we're watching here, this is life. And we're watching and experiencing life unfold, right? That's all we're doing. We're watching the passage of time, or we're in the passage of time, or maybe worst time experiencing itself, you know, so personified. Yeah. So they've thought. Something. Like that. The personification of time passage. Because like I said, I love to bring it back a little bit. You were talking about that that fourth book in the Harry Potter series. It's like the same way that that happens. It's like boom, boom, boom. And then like, oh shit, we're in it. Like it engages you, reshapes your perspective, and also changes the way you view that world of what's going on there and what's important there. It's like, oh shit, this is going down. Danger is actually here. We need to fucking get it together. Yeah, and defeat these motherfuckers or whatever. Defend ourselves. Watch out for it is bullshit. But I think, yeah, the same way that that kind of happens in that story. And it's an incredibly enticing story. Like it's super like, I'm not sure if it's the most popular. She was the most selling artist or whatever. Most selling author in where's she from? Britain in. Okay, somewhere over there. Yeah, across the pond. Across the pond. Across the pond. She's a British girl. Yeah. She's the. She was the most selling author over there for a long time. Because of that fucking. She might still be. Yeah, because of that series. And it's super enticing. But what goes on is super cool. And we were talking about that, that fourth book, it's like right in the middle two. It's like one, two, three, five, six, seven, right. But life does that in and of its own self. Like the life story that you're living in. Everyone's living goes through moments like that where it's like, this shit's cool or like, this shit's crazy. This shit's in like, the can, I guess maybe could just be events that happen in your life. But also, I think I was more so referring to just like events that happened that shape your and change your outlook and your openness and your inner interfacing that changes the way you interface with the the game and like the thoughts and your actions. This I think life just has things like that. If you're open to it and looking for it and willing to change and look for the the next best thing, or trying. To. Grow and expand your perspective and your awareness. Yeah. If you want that, it's there for you. Definitely at an infinite level. You can't. There's no bottom. There's no bottom of the rabbit hole. It goes deep, forever deeper and wider, exponentially deeper and wider. It gets fucking crazy out here. And maybe part of her success was that she just accurately, accurately represented that in a way that was digestible. and just that's what gets fed back into the circuitry of people like the system itself gives us a brain that allows us to be so interested in the things that will help self generate that experience for everybody else. So I teach you about life through the things that you like about life. And we're just like constantly attracted feeling to the darkness for this warm thing that we do know because it's familiar, but we don't know because it's like a virgin experience for us. I think that's what goes on. I think that's what good art is. Good art is one that like, you can relate to it or it's a fresh perspective or it helps you, brings you a fresh perspective. Yes, yes. Also, I think if. If. Like more opportunities get presented to things because like, how does a song become number one ever? Maybe now it's easier to say scientifically how it happens, but it's like he knew a guy. And then there's this guy, and then about a poem about a thing. And then it got played here, which blew it up over there, you know what I'm saying? I think those things that helped JK Rowling somehow, somehow, I think life like, met her in that coffee shop where she was writing that book and like, brought all the right opportunities to get it on that mass scale because she had like a really great, well molded truth that was going to influence a bunch of kids in a positive way. It was like a super great thing was going to happen. Yeah. But in reality, where it didn't happen right about there is, I guess, hypothetically, like multiverse theory, there's a universe out there which you didn't write it or it didn't get as big or whatever, do I think? I don't believe in the multiverse theory. Okay. What? I believe in that. Okay, so I've heard. A bunch of people say that that's like the highest probability is that that's going. On. Yeah. I guess multiverse theory being, I'm not exactly sure the entire description of accurately what what it is the theory is exactly. But my understanding is that it's just like there's infinite amount of universes where an infinite amount of things are happening. We're in this one. We're experiencing this one currently, today. Maybe we wake up in a different one tomorrow, slightly different. But in these infinite amount of universes, infinite amount of things that couldn't have happened, everything could be exactly like the one we're in now, but just one slight change or tweak here or there. Hypothetically. It's like Mendel don't like the Mendel effect. Kind of like every reality that could. Like, there's a million realities where you're wearing every possible color suit jacket and it's just like this. And that's the only thing that's changed. and then there's one where it's like, every possible change that could be here. It's all going on all at the same time as this one is going on all around us. So, like, I think that's the multiverse timeline. Like, you could do it down to like saying that there's only so many changes, but it's like everything we could have different cameras or it could be a different office, or it could be the same, you know, different. Cadence in my breath, a different heartbeat rate of growth, hair growth. Like all of that shit. Right? It could be the. Ever so slightly as tweak that you can't even perceive. Right? Some people like to conceptualize it like this is there's a version of your life where you got coffee this morning, and that day is just a little bit different the whole day because you. Missed that light, or where you made that light or whatever, and then. You gave that money to that homeless man and you didn't didn't give the money. Or you can take stems and variables all day long, but a good writer would just do like a couple, like different things that happen because of that, you know? But the multiverse theory is all of the realities of all of the things you could have couldn't have done. And all of the potential outlines and trees of all of those things are playing out with you all at the time. Yeah. It's like Rick and Morty has that, right? Yeah, yeah. The multiverse, it's like stemmed on that, that they can just go to another version of themselves. Guy in this universe, we didn't die or like we did die. So we're going to replace our dead selves, right? And yeah. So but here's the thing is that, like, I think that that's a fun theory because there's we it helps us do something with all of our potential, with every all of the choices that we're making all the time, just all of the choices that we did not make, that subconscious thought plays itself out. I think, in us believing in this multiverse theory, because it's kind of comforting to know, well, at least it's going on somewhere. Like there's a me that's a famous baseball player. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? There's the me that, you know, got married to my high school sweetheart. There's a me that whatever all these different life choices you could have made, it's like there's a version out there of me doing that, and it's just not me and this one right now, but because there's a me that is doing that, it doesn't feel so existentially scary that this is the only time I have no other chances. If I don't do it here, it doesn't get done. And I think that's so anxiety inducing. We like multiverse theory, but I don't want to shy away from the fact that I think that this is like the one universe. Hmhm. The bold claim. I don't even like it per se. You know, their whole bunch. I guess we're galaxies and other planets in the universe or whatever. The you know, solar system is expanding, has crazy amounts of crazy amount of crazy amount of shit. Okay. The easiest way for me to bring it to the table is through Christianity. But I didn't come to this feeling through a Christian lens per se. But like in the Bible, there's no there. Like this is it. You know what I'm saying? Like God made this reality. Yeah. And regardless of if that is even true multiverse theory, right? It literally doesn't matter. Like you're here, bitch. Like there might be other universes out there. I think I mentioned this last pod, but I didn't articulate it 100% the way I'm about to. But it's just like, because I think you might not. You definitely don't wake up in the same world you went to sleep in. So maybe whenever you go to sleep, you go somewhere else based on what you put into that day prior and whatever. Because like you wake up, people die every hour. It's like when you wake up in a different are you when you wake up in a different day, it's a different reality. It's different for sure than it was yesterday. And we just assume it's the same. We just have the memory of what it was yesterday and memories of our past yesterdays that were longer than yesterday ago. But with that, who knows what the fuck. It might just be a memory. Or are you not saying that you're in a different place and like now you got to do it again. It's like you die when you sleep. Then you come back as a different, regenerated being and maybe you might not die. But you know what I'm saying? Maybe you fucking. I remember it was almost visualized to me a while ago, but I was running this kind of thought theory and I was getting super wavy. It was whenever lizards were fucking popping off in my in my hood, all the time in my matrix. And lizards were like, representative of like regeneration and regrowth and they regrow their tails and that kind of shit, whatever, either way. But there was like a I had an idea or I was like, I think we're like all expanding, you know what I'm saying? We're like expanding. Like the universe is expanding and it's like a whole bunch of Venn diagrams and like the amount and rate of our expansion would allow us to then be an overlapping Venn diagram with another universe or whatever it is, a rate of expansion. And then based on our rate of expansion and what we've been thinking about, what we've been doing, we like traverse through those different potentials when we go to sleep, and then we wake up in a wherever we landed based on what we have from however much we're able to or not able to expand ourselves and whatever, have a different perspective or execution. Like there's definitely a reality where we didn't have this because this thought just like inhabited me. And like July, you know, there may before that, definitely like before that night, June for sure. It was just like, I don't know where I was. It seems like. Right. Like kind of got into nowhere and now we're here. So it's just I don't know, it's, maybe your rate of expansion would just allow you to jump to other universes if you fucking do it, right? Hypothetically, I don't know. But regardless, that's kind of like a cross between the two. It's like, yes, there is potentially multiverses and an infinite amount of places you can go, but none of that fucking matters because you're fucking here. Ultimately, you're here, but it does matter a lot because you can bridge yourself to somewhere that's better than here. If you do it correctly. You shouldn't deny yourself the opportunity to do that by not believing. In it. that's. Yeah. That's big time. Yeah, cuz you're definitely here, I promise you. But it's a it's a weird thing to be alive. It's a weird thing to experience yourself being alive too. Strongly in my. I don't know, I don't want to not believe in the multiverse theory, because I want to leave the potential for me to transmute into better opportunities for myself. Right. And we do believe in evolution and, elevation and elevation. Definitely. Right. So you gotta, like, get through the season, hopefully with that transcendent arc. So that way you keep getting to the better and better reality for yourself. so we want to be able to do that to cross those thresholds. I do. But part of what brought us to this place was the feeling that you have inside that we don't want to be old and say, this could have been the life, or we did this, this and this. So like that, knowing that this is the only experience we're going to have pushed us to create an experience. So, you know, is this now. so. You know, we didn't do it because there was a lot of multiverse. There was a lot of potentials for us out there. We did it because this is the only one that we get to live. This is our life. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's hard to say. And that I mean like I guess we believed in the multiverse or whatever. But it wasn't satisfactory for me to be like cool. That's cool that I'm just going to do this little whatever this life presents to me without any kind of, you know, shaking the snowglobe up. Yeah. Because we're here. Because we're fucking here. And we have autonomy. We have choices. We can make a free will. We can't just we. I guess you could just let it play out. But we can. Exist. We can do something here. We're alive. It's like, what the fuck is that? What's that even mean? Some movement. It's insane to be just to be just being. Why? Oh, I why. Some people. Saying the same, you. Know, there's animals and. You know. nature and ecosystems and shit. Kind of just a result of, We're the product of evolution or it's the product of millions and millions and billions of years of the planet becoming a planet, having allowing life to be sustained here. And then having that evolution take a course for millions of years have like. Who knows? Yes, yes and no. I believe I believe in evolution, I guess. Why not? Why the fuck not man? It's the Bible doesn't really go into evolution. We kind of just made the image and then they fall and then we're born from them. Either way though, we're fucking here. Doesn't matter y'all. We're fucking in the game, man. You're in. You're in the game. I'm sorry you're in here. You got to do something. Yeah, you got to live. You got to. Eat. You got to have water. Food. Shelter, oxygen. You're chillin. It's a nuance thing. It's so. Weird. But the people that are having the most fun are people that are just embracing the fact that they're here. So, like. I'm trying to make this one is worth it as possible. What would that look like? What would that mean? Yeah, they want to see a rich dude driving fast cars having fun. We're like, well, that'd be cool. If you were doing that with your life, this wouldn't be so fucking horrifying, you know what I'm saying? But there's something like inspiring about that. And it's just like, I think the thing that's inspiring, maybe now that we're talking about this is like, that's what I'm saying. There is no direct answer to that question. Like, why am I alive? Why when you see someone else who you just see another person that's just fucking doing dope shit or having fun on a boat and you're just like, well, that would be fucking cool. You know what I'm saying? A lot of this life is just being like, it's just embracing it, just embracing the ambiguity of, like, we're all fucking out, you know what I'm saying? They're doing this and doing that. Those people are happy. Those people are not, you know what I'm saying? Like, do what the what? You will, kid. Welcome to the fucking game, brother GTA bro. Yeah, being a kid and sitting in the shower in the dark thinking why? Why? I thought to myself like I might, you know, must have asked for this. We talked about that. Yeah, there might be a theological answer to or like a biblical answer for sure. It's like there's a plan for you. That's why you're here. I like your plan. You're here to figure out what that plan is and then to execute it. Part of your. What's that? Let's do it. Why does the Bible say that God made people. Sons. Series tight. Now you can just ask the questions. And most of time it just tells you so that he made in his own image. And they have an eye now for Apple. Apple. And then they come out. Recently. I definitely yeah, it knows how to like go through the Bible and have theological discussions. Yeah, I think I remember seeing somewhere that I had been introduced into Apple the same way that Google has. I don't know. What to call it. Fuck, I forgot some of the G, the Gemini. There it is. Okay. What is that? It's just there. I like whenever you google something, it'll like I search it for you. Okay. As well as produce results. I guess a version of ChatGPT or whatever. Maybe the same fucking software. It really says that. It just says he made his first good works. But yeah, 2911 says for I know the plans I have for you, plans for welfare and not for evil to give you a future and a hope. But it doesn't say, like, I need you to fucking. You know. Go through a character arc so I can grow you for the war to come. You know what I'm saying? Well, I don't want to have to search again, but that that one. Just give me all the scriptures that were relevant. So like what I asked? Yeah. And it was mostly just made. Made in his image. Made for his good works, made to have dominion over the land. In the sea. Yeah. We're here to find out why we're here. That's where the faith comes in. The faith jump. Because none of us know. None of us know for sure. Well, that's not in the scripture. It doesn't say you're made to find out why you're here. That would be a mind f dude. That would be like on t shirts and stuff like that. That's like an alien thought, you know what I'm saying? It'd be like, whoa. But it doesn't say quite that. But maybe that's part of man. That's his good work for the implication. It's probably why you're here. The plan, the plan that's laid out for you. It says that. Yeah, I guess there's other couple of scriptures I've seen for sure where it's mentioning, like the path is like walk, walk the path that I've laid out for you that your steps are already missed. I think chances are about it, he's ordered my steps. There it. Is. The steps are ordered. It's already written for you. Could you just go and live a live your blessed life? Amen. Yeah. Believe that. Yeah. Look for, you know, want to find that? Who knows? Who really knows why we're here? They're nobody. They've asked that question for years. That's. We're all wondering that in the back of our minds, whether you like, tackle that question or grapple and wrestle with that question or not, some people are just like, nah, nothing can exist in here. Fuck this. Oh, whatever. Bam bam bam. That's some shit. They gave up. I don't think that's their true end result thought like, hey, just fucking waste time here until you die. Of course you don't know about that need to die. So I cannot do like you're tripping on something. You gave up on something, you quit. You. There's no way. That's how you think about it. some people trying. To strike a balance. So think. You know what I'm saying? My life and also life leads you places. You know. I think your input does matter. And how far you want to dream does matter. What do you aiming at? Yeah, that's a big part of it. Yeah. Think about, like, a high school football coach. is that, like, a great job? Is that a good balance for someone out there? It's like everything they want, I think. Right? Right, right. There's someone out there that's perfect for them. It's not boats and hoes. are some people just destined for boats and hoes? I think they want boats in house. Piano. Destiny. That's destiny. Island. Manifest. Destiny. Some people destined for personal lives. If that's what. They're aiming at. Is it they really want? I don't know. Maybe they think they really want that. Are people destined for fame? maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. It's we're getting into. To the gray area. Maybe. Maybe. But also depends on you. It also depends on your input. Like you're mentioning it just it definitely does. At. Some point that all famous people ask to be famous. I don't think Jordan Peterson has to be famous. Did he want the biggest platform he could get? I think he did though, right? Well, how big is that? You know what I'm saying? He wants to write an impactful and meaningful book and have that book be read by as many people as possible. So in that sense, he wants to be, like, famous. Yeah. Or known. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying is I think there's some kind of input for, for that grand viewership somewhere along the line. so like, careful what you wish for. That's like a thing, you know, I'm saying I. Never said they. I don't know. People just born to be actors or going to be. Musicians. Sometimes. It's definitely seems that way, like Jimi Hendrix. That guy's story is crazy. I think it was nuts. So what makes a Jimi fucking nuts? I get that guy, I don't know. That's a great question. That's the shit. Who knows how. You get a Jimi Hendrix or a fucking Michael. D'Angelo? Michelangelo. That's a good question. It could be the star's cosmic timing. Just the timing. Zodiac signs? Yeah, we're trying to. We're trying to explain the. Unexplainable, but we're always tackling the. Unexplainable. That's just how it goes. That's. That's. So we're gonna wrestle or something. Wrestle or something. Something big. Which I get to the root. Yeah. Anything funny happen to you over the week? What's been going down a week? I was your birthday weekend. Saturday we went to dinner. Fucking Dan's dinner. New steakhouse in the city. Don trippin. Yeah. Mad men, Draper. Peaky boys, new steakhouse. Yeah, it was big chill vibes. Else we do this weekend or this past week. No. Yeah. We been send up the sheesh. Had birthday weekend. And then we went to try to go to Six Flags yesterday. They got rained on. There's a little bit of rain. Nothing crazy, no thunderstorms. If there's a thunderstorm, they definitely just shut it down. Well, get the fuck out of here. I thought. About that. Get the fuck out of here. I felt. It raining. I was like, did they get a play period in the rain where it's like, no thunder. We're good. Yeah, yeah. If it was definitely coming down. But we were good. We're good to go. That's awesome. Yeah. This is what this mean. Anything funny? I want to. Now just. Remember anything, I guess. Well, we've been watching a lot of Game of Thrones. It's funny particularly, but it's fucking incredible. It's so good. It's gotten to like, we're in season seven. I think it's only eight seasons. So we're in season seven now and it's just fucking gas. It's just gas. It's like the more I'm watching you, this is my my this is my second time watching this season. But I've seen the series other seasons multiple times. But watching this season now, it's like, oh man, this is they made this season for like the fans. Like this is like what the people wanted to see back in season one and two. It's like it's finally happening. It's like, oh, this is fucking tight supercut. Every episode, almost every scene is just like, this is fucking awesome. It's it's great. It's at this point, every episode, every scene is just fucking on the edge of your seat is watching intently. It's like, oh my God, what the fuck is that? It's so good. To watch a lot of that, but I guess I guess the word funny just brought me back to in my last week, and our previous employer is talking to some of the people we're talking about. What we're talking about is we're talking about TV shows, maybe funny TV shows. We gotten into comedies either way from TV shows. And then, Seinfeld was brought up. But that was just I remember there was one particular episode where George Costanza takes that IQ test, or he wants to take an IQ test to like to impress some girl or some shit, but then he gets Elaine to take the IQ test for him because she's like a genius. And it's just one of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen in my life, bro. I don't know why I like that particular scene where he's like, just talking to his or talking to this lady. Like lying to her face, just fucking lying to her face. He's like, supposed. To be in her room or in, like a room in her house. Like taking the test. Like an IQ test to verify and validate that he's doing it within. Like he gets the test back from Elaine, and they got a whole bunch of shit. Spilled coffee on her. Yeah, yeah. She's like, like, gets the test back, gives it to her. She's like, what's all over this test? It's like, oh, yeah, when I went to the store. Yeah. You went to the store? Yeah. There's like. No, you didn't leave it. The front door though, he's like, yeah, I went. To the window like you went through the. Window to the store. Yeah. It's like, is this coffee? Yeah. I stopped to get a coffee to. This is like burying himself in this line is so it is nothing. Nonchalant, just fucking selling it. Just sticking to the story. Even though he's. Caught red handed. This, that particular scene, I remember laughing harder at that scene that I've lost than anything in a long time. I was just like, this is fucking hilarious. Really. What's killing you about it? I don't. Know, just like his this straight face in this. About it. There's like, he was so. Caught and it was just like getting more and more like, preposterous. Yes. Yeah. It's. Yeah. I snuck out of the. Window to go get some fucking coffee and a pizza down the street. Well, I'm taking this IQ test, I got hungry. Yeah, I think what's. Oh my God. Yeah, I don't know why, but that was, we were talking about funny shit and that was that one will live in my mind. I was like, man, it's funny. This was an isolated moment or it was like a I keep it in my memory log, you know, it's in my fucking database, in my bank. When you were old. Enough, I'm like, yeah, yeah. Like there's only a couple of moments, I'm sure if I like, started to dive into my own film and look through the things that were, like, hilarious in my lifetime, but that one for sure, that particular watching that scene in my bed, it's like laughing my fucking ass off. I'll definitely remember that. It's like categorized and logged. I guess another moment for sure is like a Superbad. Yeah, watching Superbad in the theaters and my homies fucking hilarious. This die ten out of ten high school experience ten out of ten. We had to sneak into the movie, ten out of ten. Nice. And the way we snuck into the movie was funny. I spoke to because we were trying to get someone to buy the tickets for us because, yeah, it was rated R, we had to be 17 or 18, whatever. And we were in high school one when that movie came out. I don't even know. We're probably freshmen or sophomores, maybe even earlier, maybe eighth grade freshman somewhere in that ballpark, 14, 13, 14. But then we try to get the tickets going, get the fucking tickets. We ended up what do we end up doing? I think we ended up buying. I think we bought tickets for another movie classic. And then you said that we were. Trying to figure out how to get into the into the Superbad theater and out of all the theater options. And we was like, we're I don't even know. We we we almost lost hope. I think at this point where it's like, man, the movie's going to start soon. Like, what the fuck? We need to figure out how to get in there. And then there was a moment where fucking Ryan Casey, my college roommate, he's like the most meek of the group. Most like quiet, chill, like. Calm. Like the good boy of the group, more or less. And then he's like, he doesn't say anything to us. He's like, takes off. He's like, breaks out of our group and is like, starts walking down the theater hall. And then we're like, well, what the fuck is he doing? Like, he. Didn't like Ryan lost it. He lost it. He said, enough, I've had enough. I'm watching this movie. But no, no, no, he's had to go pee. And it was in that moment that we realized, oh, like, the movie's like right across from the theater. I mean, the theater, that particular theater is right across from the restrooms. So it was like, oh, shit, we just like fucking restrooms and boobies go right across. So it was like, perfect. It worked out perfectly. I was like, oh, see, we thought you were. You followed him to the restroom. We're like, oh yeah, man, we thought you were just broke into this motherfucker. But he's like, no, I had a really be sick. Perfect. You're done. We're gonna go run right across. We just had a great ten out of ten. High school experience. Beautiful. Watching one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life. That's bad. The movie still holds water now. You know? Movie's fucking hilarious. So fun. And in such a fun. Let's watch it on a loop. Is cracking up bro. So funny. We had a great I think we had a great high school run, a funny movies coming out. We had Superbad was like one of the first ones for sure. And then the first hangover, iconic and Stepbrothers and Pineapple Express. So we had all those in our high school times and I was like, oh my God, these movies are fucking awesome killers. Just just murderers, bro. Just some of the funniest movies. Of our time. Yeah, at least in my opinion. I agree, that's it's grand. You can't really. Because of the culture, it's hard to make movies that are like that fucking wild, you know? Yeah. The state of the state, the current state of affairs. Yeah. The political landscape. Yeah. Social landscape. People want to make movies about, like, dicks and stuff, you know, it's like hard to develop the scene. So like, it's it's. Okay, you know? At what point have we crossed a line? Comedies are really suffering. Yeah. I've heard multiple comedians and actors kind of talk about that. Yeah. In the last. Year or two, a couple of years. Yeah. But what you anything, any film, anything funny happen, man, anything going on in the story over the last couple days? No. Watching that Chinese restaurant lady go crazy. She's just, I don't know if it's the rain or what, but it was also just funny because I like when I called for Chinese food. Super busy, just over the phone. And she's like, I don't. Oh, I don't want to do, like. The social landscape. Watch out. Be careful. Because it's puts me on hold but doesn't really put me on hold. It puts the phone down. Okay. Hello. What would you like today? Takes. Takes a whole order and. Then another. Order. Going crazy while I'm driving I see like, someone like an Uber pull up and then someone come outside for their Uber. And then when I pulled the Chinese food packed and there's like eight people, I count them, eight people waiting for tacos. Some of them are just Ubers. Then I'm driving home. I see another person pulling in and parking where I parked, and he gets out to deliver an Uber. I'm like this rain. Everybody's just like, let me fucking. Chinese food real quick. Right? Crazy. Interesting, right? So the Chinese place is just going off cheese. And then I was just trippin because I was like, man, how many times were like trying to pack a house? So. But when it rains, this Chinese food place is packed. It's like such a different subset for like, oh, it's going to be busy today. Yeah. See that cloud over there. Will. Be packed. People want that hot and sour. Chicken, right? I thought it was two because it was were two because it was Labor Day. I was like when. Most people would be like barbecuing or something. Yeah, yeah. Maybe not because it's the barbecues. It's raining either way. Everybody's on Chinese food right now. And then the lady just working the counter, just like, you know, she had like some helpers, but she was like, taking all the orders out and taking the orders and swiping the cards. And she wasn't cooking. The food was she was like selling it all. She was just like. It was crazy just watching her play restaurant. I was like, she slammed, she's making money, Paul out there. And he got to go crazy, right? All out of control. Funny stuff that happened, y'all. So, so and so in that moment, there's like, a moment where two people are facing the counter, and then this one lady is like, You know. Or. No, the lady with the bags looks at the name. She's like, are you Mona? And she's like, no. And then she's like, okay, never mind. And then like, keeps looking at what she's looking at. Then she's like, I'm looking for blank. It says her name and then she's like, okay, hold on. So it's looking at the bags for that girl's name. But then this lady next to her is like, I've been waiting here for like 15 minutes. I'm also waiting for food and I'm like looking at my phone like, oh shit. And then this lady's like, it was. It was so Seinfeld. This. Because, like, this lady asked for the thing. So to introduce this lady doesn't know what to do. She's, like, just scans all the bags and then she's like, finds a bag. That's this lady's bag. The first lady, Mona, or whatever her name actually was. And then brings her. She's like, okay, yeah, I can check you out too. And then starts like cashing that lady out, and this lady is just like. Bitch, what the fuck? Like, is that on my phone over there? And then. The lady's, like, doing the thing or whatever. And then she that. This lady, while she's praying, steps up and is like, that's my food right there. I'm looking for sir. And then she's like, okay, sir. just one second, okay. And then she's like, oh my God. And then like, wait for the whole lady to complete her whole transaction and then get her food and then leaves, and then I end up in this time because I'm like, come on, there's people back there with food, and people are just like, that's my food. My fucking, my food is my food over there, my. I with it. And then they come out with the bag and then they hand it to her and then she's like, oh. And looks at me and she's like, this one is for you. And I'm like, nice. And then I look at the lady and I'll just like. You can go ahead. But in that moment, I really wanted to just pull out my wallet. And like, go just fucking. Obliterate her, you know what I'm saying? And just get dunked on. But it was such a funny, like, But I'm. Well, she's okay. I know you're first, but hold on, let me just. Oh, actually, you. it was just. Like, too much. Do you want to pay? Yeah. Right. Bitch. All right. Here. See what? I got slaughtered 15 minutes. And it was funny because she. Her food was ready. She's acting. Yeah, it was ready. So she was. Right. You know what I'm saying? Now it's all cold and shit. Oh, my gosh, can you imagine? So. Yeah. Time that to go sometimes, man. Oh, have to if you're gonna do it right. Yeah. First and first out. And we're saying. First out first. All first out. Just hilarious. Just just a perfect Seinfeld sequence. Yeah, yeah, that's a Seinfeld scene for sure. I think that happens. This I felt actually. Really. For the. Resurrection. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is just for a to go order. But it's for a reservation for a table there. Like we only have 15 minutes and there's like walked in and got set. Like, what the fuck. It's like your table's been it's almost ready. For like an hour. Like your table's almost ready. Yeah. It's the other thing about the social situation was that that lady had acted just rude enough that if I would have handed her my card, I think that the Asian lady would have just check me out. no cap. And I felt bad for her in that moment. Like our own justice, we do. We make our own justice. We're all bad, man. We're all bad. Bad. I'm a man, but we're also. I'm not meant to. Batman. Batwoman. Bad person. No joke though. Like those little moments make up. It was funny to me to have. Like, I was so outside watching the scene that I was able to be like, oh, here's justice. Like, go ahead. Like, like, don't worry about it. Zero attachment. You got it. Some people are crazy, though. People are crazy. She could have lost it. If you would have given her your card. She could have. Lost. Whoa oh. Let's be down. Texas. It is Texas. The few people you never know. Because everybody got up there. You never know she's gone through. She could have been on the edge of insanity in the nearest like. Now. It's okay. Hey, you can go ahead. So you could've been a little crazy person. Thank you. Yeah. You're not even on the edge. You know, I'm saying actually crazy. That's right. But you're right on the edge. Who knows? You know, I'm saying. You never. Know. She break down crying. So sobbing. I'm. Freaking out. Everyone looks over me. Oh, yeah. Whatever. Whatever the whatever is going on in her entire life unfolding experience. Rather see universes. We're all just fucking crazy. I'm just trying to help you understand? Yeah, yeah. It's like, go ahead. Don't worry, don't worry. Make it easy. Just chill, bro. Just fucking shit. That's awesome. Yeah, and I got in the car and listen to what you. Get. Done after surveying the menu. It's my favorite Chinese place. Well, my favorite Chinese dish is sesame chicken. Classic. But my favorite Chinese place doesn't make a good sesame chicken dish. Damn it, I know. So I outsource that. But I went with, I want a General Tso's chicken, but I think I'd gotten it one time and it was just so spicy. It was like just chili chicken. Basically. Yeah, but normally General Tso's is just like a little hot, depending where you're at. So I ask around like, yo, is it is that hot? And she's like, what do you want it to be? And I was like, that's a crazy customization feature you just gave me. I want to like, Medhat. Can you give me like a 4.5 out of ten? And then she's like, for sure. Gotcha. So I had custom General Tso's chicken and crab Rangoon. Oh. And I went with the fried rice, too. Yeah, because it was like. Now it's okay. Yeah, I really cheated on my diet all weekend. But I. Did it birthday. Weekend. The rules were off, but I stayed pretty tight, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I was like, fuck that. Ridiculous. Yeah. That ridiculous. Keep us on. Yeah. That's it bro. Yeah, yeah. Let's cool. 1030 these past weekend, boom. 30 burgers, 30 burgers. Dig train. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Flies by that every week. I realize he has to be careful because before you know, it's gonna be Sunday again. Before you know it, it's going to be Sunday again. It's like, fuck. Hopefully I get some shit done that week. You know, I say it's going to be Sunday again and we're done with football. Lessness football's coming back. We're not zero Sundays now. We are zero Sundays away. This coming Sunday it's going down two days is going down. Season opener. But a couple days ago I was thinking this is the last Sunday without football until February. Let's let's. Go different in. February. Let's go brother. First time. Yeah. So first pod in the new studio. We're still getting everything set up. We decided just to do one, just just to do one you know, just to do it here. We're not, we still have we, we're going to do some backdrops, but now we have a different alternative Omaha audible play call. We're gonna do some curtains back up. Giant curtains back here. Giant curtain on that side. We'll get the TV and stuff. But this is, this is it for the most part. A couple more things ago, but we're going to do that. Greenwald, do some more shit here later on in a in a second. But first workday officially first podcast officially in the 30. A production. Studio. So excited about that. Oh, yeah. Just going down. Hell yeah. Absolutely exciting. Enthralling. I mean thrilled me. I want to want to leave it out for about like an hour. 52 here, I love it, I love it, and we've been pushing pushes. Thank you for joining in with us. Thank you for going with us on this journey. A lot of your fans, a true support. Means a lot. Just love you guys. All the love, all the respect. All the blessings. Thanks for sticking with us through the quantum mechanics. Thank we get out there. You know how we do it. You know what happens. That's what we are baby. What we are. We're still finding out. we know who we are, but not who we may be. Well, we still find it out. Thank you for finding out with us. Hopefully we helped you out, entertained you, made you laugh a couple. Times, make you think a couple times. We'll see you. On the flip side, more more. Pods coming up, more decorations coming up, more vlogs coming out, more. Music, more everything. Entry 38 till we die. Until update. But that def def and that. See you later, right?