Episode #60

On this Episode of The MJ38 Show (Podcast):

Matthew and Justin talk about Remakes, Nudity in Movies/Shows, and The Voice in Your Head

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Hello Yes, sir. New pod in the new digs. I guess the last one was also new digs. I guess that came out today. Or it's gonna come out in a couple minutes. But this is the newest of the digs. The dig iest. The Stephanie Kennedy with it again. Diggy with it. Oh, I was wrong. To dig roots. Whatever digs. Doing the shovel dance. I love my quarter here. But nothing like a touchdown. Dad's celebrations. Yeah, it's like to score a touchdown is one thing, but then to get in the end zone and then do a really like that because you could flop on your dance. You set culture a little bit with those dances. So seriously, it's a lot of responsibility. That's a. Target within. The target right there. Yeah. The best ones are authentic right. It's funny I had like a very similar thought crossed my mind whenever I saw Justin Jefferson score. This. Sunday. He was I don't even know what he was doing but he was ingredient. He was in some other sort of dance. Really? Yeah. Then like, that thought crossed my mind. Like he's gotta have a whole, like, Arsenal dances to do. And also know that on the back end this is going to be a in like the dance the people are going to be doing. Like in culture now, like all the kids and high schoolers and people, people playing peewee football, right? I'm about to hit him with this level. But to set the wave. Of what's the dance? What's this? Ellie yellow shouldn't even be thinking about that. Oh, yeah. No, but how could he not? Yes, he. He has to. Yeah, he has to think about that. It's because it's the super true in his story. I wonder which at which point did the gritty was the last authentic. Gritty. Just like. Pure joy. oh. Like. Well, when do you think the. Last, the last true gritty was. Before it became commercialized? Oh, okay. Before it became popularized. Yeah. So there's a point where it was like beyond popular, you know, say, like, everybody in the gritty, like. Everyone knows what the gritty is. Yeah. Score attached. And do this. For a while. Him and Jimmy Chase were just doing that. And it wasn't like every kid in the world was hit in the gritty. But when it when did that start like there like. So like rookie. Year, sophomore year. This is Justin Jefferson's third season or fourth. I think it's their third because the first one was 2021. I'm pretty sure. Yeah pretty sure. So third. So yeah, prior on their rookie season I would assume. Right. I'm pretty sure. Or did dumber and do it first? No talent. No talent. George was different. Josh was huge at that time. Josh was huge. Yeah, John Moran it. All was going down and not well. I think it was all going down around the same time, I think. So they were kind of like driving each other. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely. I saw the link between the two. I thought there was a bridge there. Yeah. I was like, oh, that. They probably talk about this shit. Yeah. Probably in a group chat. We all want to do what you want to, but what they still want to popularize. I don't I don't. Think so. I think that's a, that's the. Next one maybe. Yeah. Well the thing is too, it's like I think the best thing to do would be to know all the dances from all the songs that everybody's doing, and then there'd be like a feel for it. You'd be like, oh, I just gave him that. you. Know, those who like it, it would like, really make sense of that. It's actually it would hit hard instead of being like, I'm going to go in there, I'm going to go with the we're going to do the, we're going to right now. I'm back, you know. Okay. Yeah. They can't do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. But like Stefon Diggs I feel like his watch is Diggs. Stefon Diggs baby. Like that was real. That's it. Yeah. So you can't take that away. Yeah I hit that in in real football a few times I remember the first time in real football okay. Doing dances were getting kind of popular or like Diggs was doing that. And I was like that's tight bro. And then I was like so nervous. I scored like a 60 yard touchdown just on like a go route. And I got to the end zone and there was nobody around me and I was like I'm going for it. For the ball. So I dig it and then hit that thing. And then the ref was like. Okay, okay, well there ain't no way to celebrate what you because you got a random ball, but I see you. Yeah. I was like, thank you. Ted voted that I was nervous. There you go. Yeah. Because it's like, okay. He did the thing. What's he going to do now? Yeah. All eyes on this guy, right? Yeah. Okay. He did the thing. This is just to praise God. Praise God if you're trying to get a little a little silly with it. A little silly with the silly. Come on. I'm saying it's cool. It's a target within a target. So I'm here now. What am I going to do? Yeah, right. It's a different a different mainstage. With the celebrations. Gesicki you remember. When Gesicki. Gave the. The gritty back to Ja'Marr Chase? I think, what do you mean? Like, there was a point where I don't know if they were playing against each other. I thought maybe they were. But there was a point where Miccosukee scores a touchdown and then proceeded to do the griddy, and it was. Like his griddy. It was it was tough, bro. Tough look tough. And I don't know if it was like genuinely he was trying to hit that dance, but I thought he was like kind of making fun of them. But then after that he was definitely making fun of himself for a while. It just like I saw that. Yeah, yeah. Going crazy for some. Remember that? That was like last year, right? Was a two years ago. I'll say this. Why two years ago? Yeah, it had to be two years. Yeah. So yeah, at that point it was like pretty. It's been huge, you know what I'm saying? Gigantic. Yeah. I was watching Hard Knocks. What part of what made me think about all that was it a lot of hard knocks. And then there's a point where the bears are playing the Bengals, and the bears defense is just like locking up the Bengals. And then, One of the defenders, like, gets another Swat or something like that and knocked the ball loose. And he gets up and he's like, I look at him and he starts doing the griddy like at Jamaar Chase. and then I was like, that's crazy. That definitely happens to him all the time. Yeah. Everywhere he goes. Oh yeah. Right. If you use it against them. Yeah. That's a whole different life than this. Alex. Yeah. Being a professional athlete, they getting paid now, bro. Inflation bro or whatever is going on. Everything is going up crazy on the contracts now. It's like every contract is going to be coming out for the next five years. It's like it's going to be I guess. Not all the contracts, but of the contracts that are being signed by professional athletes, the top 1% of all those athletes, those contracts are getting so fucking huge every year. It's crazy. Hundreds of millions. I remember. Thinking that when I was. Arm's length. 12 years old watching football, and I've ever been like, oh, so-and-so is going to be the highest paid quarterback ever. Isn't that crazy? Yep. And then someone so Drew Brees. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But then either I think it was my dad explained to me that like every quarterback maybe it was my stepdad. I'm not sure. But every quarterback that signed the contract that's like. Like an eight year quarterback, like the best of the best. They're always going to reset the market every time. So if anybody's like in the top five of their position and they get a new contract, it'll always be the most that anybody's ever made there. I think you saw like two tackles. If it was the highest paid quarterback of all time for a little bit there okay. Yeah, yeah. They're all getting that that that little title. Yeah yeah yeah. But every new contract that comes. Out if you're. That it should. Be. You're like. CeeDee lamb. He's like he's got to sign. You know like the highest paid non quarterback contract ever right. And it's like well I think Justin Jefferson did the same thing. Like this line is yeah. And the Saints just going on with the edge tomorrow. Chase is trying to get that same ballpark deal you know. Yeah. That's why he's holding. Yeah. Could have held out. Didn't hold out. Took the fucking l cinnamon thing. My money I should have been thinking about fucking X's and O's. I tell you what. Them should have been sent to training camp. Boy. Joe Burrow freakin dinosaur blond. First of all it looks like he's pulling it off. He's within. It. He's fired. Let's go. He reminds me the one of the bartenders. Yes. What? Yeah. Much like that. That's like. That's the thing people are doing. People are doing that now. Going for it, dude. The doing it. The bleach bleaching. Your hair is coming back. If you right now it's the like in a month it might be played out. But you could do it tonight and you'll be on the money. You'll be in. Yeah. I've seen the push. Your cultures do it. I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it happen. I've seen it. I guess willing to people in my own personal life. And then Joe Burrow for sure is another one. He's a younger cat as well. He's in his early 20s, mid 20s. And he's a culture pusher for sure. Yeah, he's definitely truly stylish. Some people just wear it like a nice outfit. Offensive clothes. Exactly. But now he's he's got it, you know what I'm saying? Got that touch. So, sorry, I was trying to. I was thinking of a way to say positive. But I was gonna let it go. But, I think that this is, like, Eminem. Blond is what I'm trying to get around to saying. Okay, like, I don't know if you could. This not blond, you know what I'm saying? That's like. bleached. Yeah. Bleached. But it's not yellow. Yeah. It's fire. It's white. Fire. If I were in a different place in my life, I might just go for it. I feel like he just told people that. I'm like, all right, let's go. That's what we're doing. Like this. Seven in here. I'm game. If I was going through, I don't know one of them I don't know. You know, what's he going through right there. He's going through trying to find relevance again. Different. Think that was part of it. Like people forgot about them you know. Yeah, I wish I did. Put some put some faith into them behind. I know exactly, but kind of. We've been on the whole season. Week by week. But I'm in the freaking Bengals. Part of it was I watch the Matrix Revolutions. Okay, the fourth matrix, right? Yeah. And one of the things that I noticed in The Matrix is like when the people who are like, awake and they're able to go to the real world, when they zap back into the matrix and they're dressed in their own clothes, they're always like. Oh, no. And the original matrix, they're wearing like, all leather. All black, all black. They've got their hair in, like, braids and stuff slicked back. They're wearing sunglasses. So sometimes, like, Morpheus is wearing, like, big red sunglasses, like they've got this flare of swag on them to where they're like, shit's kind of dyed purple here. Or like, they're drippin dog like, for real. Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of a. Cool representation of a. Thug, right? when. I try to place, like, what the style is there, it's like, imagine, like computer nerds on full trip. That's what it feels like they were going for. There. You know what I'm saying? Right? But it's also like trying to symbolize. Choice, I guess. Like if you had true choice within something that was normally completely confined to you, this is what you'd actually look like. And there was something like about that style that was like a I was trying to like, you know, peel back these layers. But when I saw Joe Burrow with the bleached hair, it was like reminiscent of that. Okay. So if I were him, I'd be like, we're fuckin. I'm turning it into the best of the best. We're about to be our Super Bowl shape. I know kung fu now. Like, don't I ain't. Talking about this, that or the other. Let's fucking play ball. I know kung fu. Show me. That's what I hope happens. I mean, they gotta hand it to. Them, bro. Yeah. They like. Yeah, they're big. A hundred are big favorites. I think the time for the biggest spread of the week. I don't think anybody's had a larger spread than that. Seven and a half. It's big. No, that was big. One big boy who was the other seven and half. The bills. Was. It wasn't really seven and a half. Oh man. And Arizona. Seven cards. Yeah. Why don't we. Why don't. We. Come on. Why didn't we. That seem like a money lock. Hindsight. Hindsight's some. Bitch. What is it about hindsight. It's like that. Because you guys. Let's see. you get to see how the movie plays out or, you know, like, it's like the the result of the actions. Yeah. You see the reaction. That's it. That's that's how it played out. I should have played like this. I should tell you I hit that bitch, right? I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. Healing us on this, but yeah, man. And a foul. This whole bitch. Joey. I see you. You're. You were talking about the matrix. The the most recent one. Yeah. All right, guess what was the the style, the styling choices is, like, similar throughout the whole series. Is every saying I was a little different. Well, in the movie, it's like the callback to scenes from the original movie. So I was able to, like, see some of the original matrix and like, you know, the scene where they're going into the bank for like the last final big fight in Trinity. Yeah. And they go fucking bonkers. Yeah. Yeah, that's freaky. He's. got. To start doing the wall runs for the first time. I don't think you ever seen that before. Yeah. One hand in cartwheels and shit. One hand and cartwheels with a strap. Just crazy. Business. Iconic. That's what I was looking for. Walks through the fucking walk through the metal detector. Opens the jacket just strapped to the gills. Don't look the guy. Open the jacket. Keys, belt. You fucking awesome shit. The good stuff fucking on, bro. It's fucking. On. At that point. Yeah. That's fire. You know that scene so well, bro, it's in my fucking memory bank, right? Yo, there were like, a lot of. There were in, like, leather. Everything. Oh, yeah. She's got, like, leather boots on a leather trenchcoat. They've got these, like, black sunglasses. Their hair's all fucking. I think Trinity has like, braids on the side of her head. Maybe, like they're fucking. Just like the drip is crazy. They're not. They're they're. Not ready. They're like Rambo or like, police with, like, armor on. They're just like. Fucking dripping, dude. Oh, God. Out with a bang. Because, oh, take a pig dog. It's crazy, I love it. Yeah, we do, we do. It's just started to stand out to me because there was a big fight scene where these they were the free minded people were tapped back in to try to go with neo, to go find Trinity, who was still stuck in the matrix in this version of the matrix that they're in, this reboot that is literally a reboot. You know what I'm saying? Okay? And it's so self-aware, like the whole time, it's like making fun of itself the whole time. Like he has to make a new matrix video game, but he's famous for making the old matrix video game, which is supposed to be the old ones. And then they basically tell him, like, we're going to make this new matrix game whether you want to do it or not. And that like, is also what happened in real life with the movie. That's like he wasn't going to do it. But then they told him like they were going to make the movie with or without him. So then he did it. And then they put that in like the movie. So it's like really weird. How is this. Funny. The kind of Reeves you said, all right. Yeah. You mean right? Yeah. Keanu Reeves in real life got to do it. Wasn't going to do The Matrix reboot because he's like, that's dumb. You should not try to recreate this thing. Let's just make like, new movies like we made John Wick, let's make new John Wick. Like, why are we going back? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. They were. Like, there. And with that. A lot of people say, stop remaking movies. There's so many remakes in the last ten, 15 years. It's crazy. Ridiculous amounts of remakes. Sorry. Reboots, whatever. No, I hate it. But we can talk about it. It's annoying. Dude. It literally grinds my gears. All these remakes. Yeah. Fucking remixes. Please. Okay. Can we get. Some original content in this motherfucker, bro? Right. People love it, though, I guess. I guess, like, maybe it stems from where is like the where's the where's the intent coming from? Truly? You don't say, are you trying to, like, pay homage or are you trying to, like, ride the wave and reignite some the and get some plays off of that because like, well, if you're trying to like, why don't you try to make new shit and I'm saying why, why, where does the energy come from to even want to make a remake there? Remix. That's a great evaluation measure for whether or not we should think this is bullshit. And I like what you're saying about because it's if it's nice, if it's like, I'm going to make this song. Everybody loves the song, but I sound so old, you know what I'm saying? Okay. It's like the ten year anniversary of the song. So if I just like, do a slight, subtle, like, new mix on the song and then maybe add like an extra verse at the end for everybody's listening back, that's kind of cool. You're giving us some original content. When you were doing an extra verse for us too. but. Like when Big Sean came out with the ten year anniversary for Finally Famous, I don't think there was any extra content on there. Maybe like an extra song maybe, or something. There was an extra song right? There was. I remember also the whole thing for that one song I remember. Sure. Yeah, I remember that. I mean something else. I think it was the remix I mastered as well. And I get it like keep himself relevant. It's cool. Like if he wasn't going to release music that we get that instead. Okay, that's cool. But like, think about a movie like if you the your favorite director is like spending his time making a reboot of an old movie and like, you're going to go see this, like new version of this old ass movie that people liked a lot. Like that guy could have been spending his. Whole. Time and energy and effort and all the money they paid, all those people could have gone to like, a new movie. Like, I want fucking Ken. Dude, do you remember the feeling when you watch good Will hunting for the first time? Where the fuck is that feeling? I want that back. Why are we doing everything over and over? And it's not. It's. I need fucking. Fresh. Boom. You know what I'm saying? Something new. Take me somewhere I've never been. Oh, so let's ask. Dude. Matt Damon and. Ben Affleck did it in an apartment. Like two dudes. The spitballing. Do you think that was like. Yeah. Well, what makes that movie so great? Or what's the what's the thing you're referring to? Well, I like to use that movie as an example because I think, like, you don't have to everyone that that movie hits everyone for the most part so hard that you're just like, dude, that movie is fucking amazing. Demos, everything. So like redemption. So I don't have to explain what I'm talking about, but it's a good question. Shawshank redemption two, right? That's the other one that's kind of in my head is. Like a sure you want to. You're like, damn, movies are crazy. That's it's great. Right? That's it was great. So maybe it's hard to ask people to go make those. Make great. Art, just create great art out of nothing. Why is it so hard to ask? And I guess because isn't that what we're doing here is I kind of maybe what we're stemming from part of our like, why? Why do remixes? Because it's like, I think part of what we're doing here is creating new art, like. Right. And then it's like to not be creating or to be creating art, but to be remixing it or remaking it. It's like, maybe it's not completely in line with what I think we're doing here creatively, or what I want to do here as a creative. Right? Mean if I do, if I am going to make like a movie or a show or a song or something, and I do, I'm not going to do like an exact remake or reboot of something. Yeah, because I'm just trying to like, run out the scenario where I become like a director, like I make movies. I'm like, in my director's mind, I don't want to make redo another movie. Someone or like, you know, if I'm a writer or whatever, right? If I write the scripts, right? But if I'm writing the script from Shakespeare or writing a play or whatever, I'm doing the thing I would, I would the way that I would, like incorporate the remake or the remix or the incorporation of the old information into the new, and to bring it new again is like, you know, like try to find subtle ways to pay homage to it through like similar situations or through like a, like a nod of inspiration. You know what I'm saying? So, like a character's name or something, they say, or. I don't know. There's I think there's a little different way to, I guess, like in music is an easy example. You could like you like use someone's bars, like in a different flow or use someone's flow with like different bars. And it's like paying homage, kind of do it or like bringing it back to life, like I did on, her loss or the first song like, and, What's it called? road on road. Yeah. Come on girl. Yeah, that's where all my players know. Yeah. It's like the 20. The flow from to 24 is. Yeah. Yeah. People do it all the time in hip hop for sure. So I guess that might be why I think like that. But if I was gonna do it in a movie or a book or a show, I would also try to incorporate the same ideology or same thought of how to incorporate the past instead of like trying to remake it. Yeah, for itself and like just redo it. Just being inspired. Yeah. I would just try to use some of the inspiration or like maybe like a pivotal thing that happens. I would have like a similar set up and pivotal thing happening, but like maybe like the opposite would happen or, I don't know, something, you know, I'm saying. Something like that. Yeah. But I ain't trying to remake a whole fucking movie just because. Where does it end? What does it end there? Are we doing remakes of our remakes in like 20 or 30 years? It'll never end. Like Star Wars, the original Star Wars one through seven, right? All those are gonna get remade in the next 30 years. Probably so. Right. Unimagined things. I mean, it's not the same resources going to remake those movies as it is new movies. So maybe it's okay for people to dedicate money and budget to people who want to remake those movies. I mean, we do. I am happy that there's new, like Lord of the rings movies. I guess someday if they remade the Harry Potter movies, I'd be like, you know, it's nice to have it. Re going to. Remake that with a new Daniel Radcliffe. Oh, you're saying that? That's nuts. Dude. Dude, I don't know, right? Okay. Why are we spending our resources doing that? That's the thing. Well, let's just make a new Harry Potter. Leave it alone. You know, I'm saying. Yeah, like. A like a continuation, is there? So. No, I just like what Harry Potter was in its. Oh, okay. Seriously? Yeah. It's a story that. Rocked the world. New book. Yeah. I need a new series. Yes. Yes yeah, yeah. It's the same thing with like Game of Thrones. It's like they it's like House of Dragons. It's like, you know, I'm saying keep people in that world. It's like, dude, it's like a reboot almost. You hate that. Do you love that? I enjoy it, I started watching it were like an episode and a half deep and I've. Yeah, I've asked multiple people their their opinion on it. And I guess the general, the general answer is always like, oh yeah, it's good, it's good. I don't think anyone's I don't think it could pass or surpass Game of Thrones in any capacity. Maybe later on we give it a couple seasons, but this shit's Game of Thrones. It's pretty tight. It's pretty airtight. Yeah, it's a great story. But yeah, I think that, it's valuable, I enjoy it. I think it's. Cool. Vikings has the same thing where there's like two other whole shows. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's like that. Vikings, Valhalla or whatever. Yeah there's Vikings Valhalla and there's another one too. yeah. But exactly. And that's like the same show, but it's not the same show. It's different characters, different problems, same setting, more or less same culture. Same world. References across back and forth, you know? Yeah. And then that sense I do like appreciate those shows to some degree because it's like I do kind of I still live in that world. I like, I think a fresh story in that world. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm not here for the nostalgia. We love that. Shit. I hate on that. Yeah. And then we also like, like with, the Beetlejuice remake that just came out like it's, I think I'm not sure if it's a remake or a sequel might. Be a sequel, but they have. It like Re Re revitalize that franchise or that movie, you know what I'm saying? And that cult following. And then I think now they're it's like a double whammy because they're able to revitalize it in records of data for the people who have been following that particular, whatever it is, that niche of movie or that niche of type of show and the rebooting these things, and they're able to like the viewer who's, consuming it is able to re consume it in a new way. So like, here's our nostalgia and it's like new enough but familiar enough. So it's like a fucking it's like a beat of honey or bird of honey. Yeah. But then also they're able to like, share it with their kids too, because it's been like enough time has passed for a lot of these people to have kids. Right. And they can go watch these movies together and like. Do the whole thing again. Back at it again. Yes. But where it's money, where. Are the people making it? Because the one thing is that we could define, we need to define what a reboot is or remake what we're talking about. We don't hate. That. That's nice. It's nice. But at the same time. Where's the new. Art? Like the Ghostbusters. Remake? Okay, like just make a new movie. Please don't. You don't have to do that. You're just going to borrow that idea. You're just going to redo it with new people, and we'll go watch it because it's like, oh, it's the updated version. It's a different take. I'm like, just make a new. Movie that I haven't. Seen, you know, saying Kevin Hart does it. There's a lot more, I guess someone's thinking about it like money or fiscally. Yeah, it's like. Find more money in the. Big bang. Sure. A lot. Or maybe not a lot more money per se. It's all relative. Depending on how much you spend and whatever the return is or whatever. Whatever draw on goes with any. Other shit. Just the name of it. It's a lot of revenue. Yeah, it has a it has a much lower floor, so it's a much more solid flex. Yeah. To make a reboot. Than it is to fucking start. Somebody who could drop a dead on. You. See, I'm not playing fantasy football with my. Art. I'm making art. Yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah, that's what we're talking about too, I think. Yeah. Well, Ghostbusters came into the meta and fucked up the meta because that movie was just like, right. It was original. Yeah, it was good, well-executed. This was what was going on. And this was going what was going on. So people were familiar with this, but not quite familiar with this. And in time and in place, it just hit perfectly for a nice little fireworks show of a fucking moment and culture. that's what we're looking for here. Just like feel. It's around, you know what I'm saying? Tom Cruise is making Mission Impossible seven. You know what I'm saying? We just did Top Gun again. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like my dog. Give me. And I hating on it. But just like, come on, can we do something not Ocean's 14 with these guys? You know, it was a furious ten. Yeah. There might be more. There might be more. And, then. I say that. But at the same time, when I'm watching a great TV show and it ends up fucking sad, I never want the show to end. Make something new, though, damn it, like. I it's hard to ask for both, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So which you have it all is the boxes we live in. What, the new original art. Okay. Netflix has been. They put out a whole bunch of types of shows. And, you know, I think there's they're trying to curate a creative, you know, film media like shows, movies. They're trying to do a whole bunch of shit. They're all over the place. I think a lot of stuff coming out. Yeah, they're seeing what sticks. Yeah. 3% cable. So yeah, 3% was tied that altered carbon. She was tight. Gas. That shows gas. Absolute gas. Highly recommend. That sounds good. It is super. like Hypersexualized in the first season. Some super gory, like, everything is like on a times ten filter. Like all the normal, like nudity, drug usage, gore, sexual scenes, all that. It's just on ten like that. They just want to, like, make a statement with being like, I feel like, super aggressive with everything at first. So when I recommend it, I'm not saying like. Isn't that tight, you know, you like that. they. Tone it down to the second season, which I appreciate just to some degree, because sometimes you're like, oh geez. Yeah, it's Game of Thrones, and it's like, all right. I get it, I get it. They're in a whorehouse. I understand, that's okay. Should we move on from the fact that they're in a whorehouse? Guy I understand 100%. I get it. Come on. Hit me with the facts. I mean, with the dialog can mean with the storyline. Exactly, exactly. Where does that come from? They're like, oh, we need to keep the viewers. We need to keep them in and attained. Keep them engaged. It's I don't know. It's a little let's talk about let's talk about it. Why not a little weird. Why? Okay. There are those shows that do that with that recommendation. Yeah, yeah. You know that. Give me that recommendation too. Yeah I have it's a little I've got a forewarning for, you know, watching with a child. I don't want you with the kids. Make sure they're in a bed asleep. Better sleep. It. Call me tomorrow. Put them to bed. It's not a cool part. Why did I, when I was watching Altered Carbon and evaluating why? This is the thing that's going on as motif. One are. Just trying to desensitize us. That's one question, but desensitized to that stuff. That's the conspiracy mind. Okay, okay. If I'm looking for, you know, a defensive version of a reason why, but maybe they want to capture attention. Maybe it's just like statistics, like sex scenes longer than this time frame. And at this many intervals per episode, captures 30% more viewers. Per. Episode. Yeah, exactly. It could be as simple as that. Like a I said, the analogy coming to mind across reference of like, it's a kind of like, the restaurant analogy you were talking about are the restaurant statistics insofar as it's like first time goers of the restaurant, like if you make them a second time comer of the restaurant, than they are much, likely or much more likely to stay and come consistently. Yeah. It's like if they watch the first episode, they might fall off. But if they watch the first two episodes, the likelihood that they're going to watch all of it is increased by 45% or some shit, I don't know. So maybe there's trying to get that some, some something along those lines for retention. Yeah. But then who are they retaining. Who is like, okay, well watch this show. This show's got. Boobies. Who's not a fucking child. Right. All right. Most people that are appreciating that are in a group of people that say that you could tone it down a little bit, right? Yeah. Is that for. Sure? Is that for the. True viewership of the actual story? I don't know. So I also wonder why there's desensitized. Yeah. I also wonder whether sex scenes in movies, you know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes I mean, just like, okay, well just part it's like, does it ever make sense to have a sex scene in a movie? Like, you don't have to. You don't have to do that. Most of most of the most of the time. It's not super relevant to the story. If it happens, it happens. Or it's like in a book, you know what I'm saying? Or it's like you can like write it out or just like the implication or whatever, because I've seen it done tastefully, you know what I'm saying here and there were just like it. The implication is there. Yeah, it's like that, like the lead up and then like the implication and then it's like next scene. Yeah, yeah. I was like, okay. Like that's. I get the idea. How I would. Do it. I see what happened in the story. I get it there at a whorehouse. Like you said, you get out of my face now, right? Yeah. You put that away. Yeah. For sure. I don't know. Or there's people that are just like. Oh my God, this is us. This is us fucking weird people. This is like, their favorite. Part of the whole fucking production. You. Yeah. Weirdos. I don't know. That movie was great. They could use a little more sex scenes. But my personal, my personal opinion. Storylines, great acting was great. Supporting actor was even better. Setting was great. Not one of pain or mean. No pain or vision or beans. I see none of that. Give me a little more. I'll come back next time. Like, what the fuck? Who's thinking those. Things? Well, here's one. One thing is to think about because you could write every book like you don't. You could just not include that in your book. Like you could tell the story of the movie and just not. You could take out anything in the story almost. And like tell the story is long. As long as sort of like a critical fucking changing. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like, sometimes I remember watching a sex scene in a show recently and being like, all right, I think it was in a movie. I think it was watching like, fucking. There's definitely one movie I was watching called fuck, and they take Arnold Schwarzenegger. Crypto cop, I don't know, let's go. Fuck, yeah. There was a sex scene in that movie. So what's a decade old movie? So yeah, it's. Called like cry Out Cop or something. They pull Arnold Schwarzenegger out of a cry of total. Recall. Or whatever. Yeah, maybe that's it. I don't know, Sandra Bullock, Arnold Schwarzenegger. They, There's like a scene in the movie where, like, they're they go back to their house and they have some, like, sexual tension, for sure. And then she's more or less kind of just like, do you want to have sex? And he's like, okay, babe. Like, totally. Okay. He kind of talks like, oh, shoot, babe. All right, I don't know. I can't do Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's somewhere in that range. And, I'm here for she's. Like, okay, we'll put on this helmet. And he's like, you know, there's there's some awkward tension where. He does some cosplay. He doesn't quite know that maybe sex is different for her and this future that he's come to because he's from like 100 years, many times. Got it. And so he's all taken off his shirt. He's like smile on his breath. He's like, oh. Shit, here we. Go. Whatever. And then. He puts on. His helmet, get a pump. I think, it's, it's it's not. Arnold Schwarzenegger, it's Sylvester Stallone. Oh, God. I'm fucking it up for you. Okay, there you go. There. I felt there was a disconnect. It's funny, because it's just like his acting is hilarious, too. That's part of what I've been making fun of is, he doesn't just like, he's not like, fucking Matt Damon's like, hey, how are you doing? I'm Jeff. He's like. I don't know about the fucking drug about, but. This kid's in the rough. She's in there. He's still. He's always rocky in Rambo, okay? Every role he plays in this movie, he's a cop. Or he's like a he's got. Yeah, he's a cop and he's a badass human. He's on like a like a robot. Nah. Just normal. Got it. Cry out cop. He came out of the ice, got it hurt. And, he, Has a lot of problems with current culture because they've gotten super PC and they have like a he's like, what the fuck is this? And it's like, you've been fined $1 for breaking. The. Verbal abuse policy set by our standards in our community. He's like, the fuck. You motherfucking. Cocksucker, just start spitting all these tickets at him. It's just it's a weird take on culture, for sure. Okay, cool. so they put on these helmets, she's like, let's hook up. And then they fuckin put on their helmets, and then they start, like, having, like, sensory sex with no physical sex. But it's also not so straightforward that he's just, like, feeling it. It's like a weird mental thing going on. He's kind of like, not sure. And then she's just like having sex and he's like, yo, what the fuck is this? This is crazy talk. And then she's like, oh yeah, well, what do you mean? There's like, we have sex. Like, you know, no, I'm saying. Animals like animals like dogs, like dogs. And then she's like, oh no, that's crazy. It's primitive. That's that's ancient. History. What are you talking about? You guys, you want to exchange bodily fluids with me? Like that's been outlet for like, 50 years. We don't exchange model outlawed. Yeah. So they're like, not even. And then reduced disease rate by like 90% or something like that by not not exchange of bodily fluids for this cultural change. So in that movie when I was like, why is this even in this movie? And I'm like, I guess it kind of expresses like how culture would change. And if we don't want culture to change to whether all of these controls on us, that we're so pacified, we're like, okay, let's have sex, we should like, do something about it or whatever. Maybe that's a statement they're trying to make. Yeah, but I've also seen other movies where they're just fucking and it's just like, why was that? Even in the. Movie? Why the fuck? It was so. Random, you know what I'm saying? They want to show her boobs for a second. It's like it's rated R, so they get. To I. Don't know why they're doing it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right. It's like history PG 13. Yeah, right. Without the sexy. It's like now we need to be rated R for what we're going. For here for our demographic. We're gonna make it right at all, or you know what I'm saying? Come on. It's fucked up. If it's a good fucking movie, it's a good fucking movie. We don't need the extras bullshit. If it's a great story, like. Right. I mean, I guess in fucking Shawshank Redemption or in fucking good Will hunting, how many sex. Scenes are there in either of those movies? I can tell you. I'm sure ChatGPT could. I'm thinking good Will hunting, I don't think has hardly any sex scenes, maybe with his girlfriend, but it's definitely like, it's okay. So here's what here's we're. Trying to push the envelope. Like, why what what do they what envelope are they pushing? And what's the reason for pushing it. Right. Because I do think that there is room in good art for like he like, falls in love with that girl, you know what I'm saying? And go hunting. Yeah. Yeah. Like love is a. Powerful. Trope. It's a. It's a powerful thing. That we build a lot of stories around. Bruh. Like almost all of them. So I get it. I fucking get it. But like, come on, what are we talking about? Right? Right. Maybe sometimes HBO is trying to make you a fucking statement. Like, look at just how fucking. Not. Commercialized we are. Not controlled. We are. But like your other media is. So you're like, do this shit on HBO. It's fucking. Crazy. They never show that shit on Fox. Yeah, maybe they like having that as a brand to some part. Of the branding. Yeah, yeah, I can see. Yeah. I guess. What's the energy behind it? It's my question. Who's the who's the, the who's running HBO who's like thinking that or like wanting to push that narrative more forward? It's like I push it a little bit more, a little bit more versus, yeah, TV shows 30 years ago, British TV shows now like bruh, bruh, I haven't seen, I haven't even seen, I guess like the example that just came to mind. I haven't even seen the show, but euphoria. Have you seen that show? I've heard about it. I know about. It's a great it's a show that Drake co-produced or whatever. The song. Oh my God, let's get into it. Right. I haven't seen it. I know that, my fiance, a sister, has definitely seen some of it. She's talked about a little bit to me, but yeah, apparently it's just like super sexualized, like, hey, I guess super dramatized and sexualized and almost like, grossly so with, like, high school as, like the setting. Right? That's what I heard about it when I was out. Yeah. Yeah. So I haven't seen like anything about it or I haven't watched a single episode of it, but from what I've heard it was like, oh, what the hell's going on here, y'all? Who's making these. Decisions? You know why? Yeah. Okay. I'm going. Can I see a world where that's a good art? Like mad at you? There's an argument for it. Like if these adults are supposed to realize, like, you know. Well, did you have sex when you were in high school? Like. Yeah. So I feel like a lot of people can connect to, like, I guess if you were going to sexualize like make it. But what it's like, why are you making a show about those parts of people's lives? You know what I'm saying? But there is room on the back end for these adults to connect to that feeling, but then also open their eyes to like the high school is like this crazy chasm of, like, its own hierarchy and its own fucking jungle, you know, and maybe just kind of like sending your kids to that jungle all the time. You're not thinking about it. So maybe there is an argument to be made that the the on premise alone, it could be good art. Right? That's the reason. Right? I'm like, the words are coming. In your mouth. I'm going to catch that. Like, because it makes sense. I could see a world where it's tastefully done, you know what I'm saying? All the people having these sex are like consenting people. Unless it's like the episode is about the drama that comes about from something not consensual. But if they're just being kind of like the the arguments that I've heard against the show is that it's just like more. So maybe Drake made a show that was kind of loosely like just having these sexual, drugged up, fucked up scenes where it's like, okay, this is what we're going to make art today about. Act like this is what you're going to say. And just like, not not making creative art that has an expression, it's trying to make these motifs is trying to hit and these ideas, it's trying to share it with people. Like there's a difference between, you know what I'm saying? What could we what we're. Talking about, Amanda. And what right. Yeah, bro. Desensitizing us man kids to watch it, desensitize them to it. Like that's a different energy going into the piece. I see that being. Like, step. Five of a hundred step plan for the pets. You know what I'm saying? I don't yes, I know what you're saying. Hypothetical layer. We're talking hypothetical land here. Ladies. I don't disagree with you at all. Hypothetical land. But in this hypothetical land, I see that this could be, What the what? I'm up with the push and who's pushing it and why. And desensitization. The over sexualization. It's like, Why? I don't know, maybe because the. Pet owners want to make being a peddle, not. A peddle. You know what I'm saying? And yeah, I've definitely. Heard about, like, the proposed verbiage. Yeah. The minor attracted person. Come on, dude, that's fucked up stuff. We talked about this before, but that's what the fuck up again. So the still. Again. Catch a fucking backhand. Shut the fuck. Up till I die with that shit curl. What are you talking about? Yeah. No. Yeah. Maybe whoever's behind that agenda trying to make, you know, trying to reorder straight our fucking wiring of what's like, the way we are able to describe and define what is legal and illegal, just like, through human fucking words and shit. Yeah. It's like maybe they're trying to use their human words and their human influence to slowly get to the point where we can do that. You know, it's like it's like slowly increasing the temperature slowly but surely, like before, you know, if I can boil it alive. I hypothetical in. Dude, I it, that. That idea. That, like force is bigger than us are trying to desensitize us as a people to get away with nefarious things in our culture that are more Western and Christian based culture would typically not because, you know what I'm saying. The idea of that has been present on my head top since I was like 20, about 20 years old, just from some fucking conspiracy theory rabbit holes, bro. I like, working a rabbit hole, working at the library at college, and just like in front of a computer for like eight hours, just end up. Someplace. I was just like, no, you gotta be careful on the internet for eight hours in a row. You gotta watch out in a in a weird spot, like driving for eight hours. It's driving me for eight hours. It was like, oh my God, where am I? What the fuck is any of this shit? How did I even get here? Go back back back back back back. Yeah, right. Yeah. Close out. All the tabs have, like, 45 tabs. This holy shit kind of shook. It's dark outside now. Yeah. Yeah. But so that was our brains. One of our catalyst points for I guess the idea that. What was the idea initially they said to you. That it became present that this was it didn't like take over me, but it became like something that presented itself, presented itself. And I've been like consciously aware of and kind of monitoring since I've heard about it, was that there's, you know, people in power potentially even like, you know, bigger than our government or entangled in our government that aim to desensitize us specifically here in America, to stuff like violence, gore, sex, you know, potentially even, like you said, like pedophilia, to whatever degree to, like, normalize it to some degree to us for whatever nefarious reasons they might want to do, ultimately to try to, like, uproot the more Western idea of a Christian based culture that America was founded on. The family foundation. Yes. Family foundation. Yeah. I mean, we talk about just how you talked about before that you feel like there's forces that are nefarious, that are trying to break down the family model as how we typically live our lives. Whereas some people would say that that's like like a culture trend. That's just the way things are going. But, you know, yeah. There's a conspiracy out there that that's more being wedged into our lives than it is. Like, true. Just like expansion. In. Like, that culture or like Hollywood or Rich, whatever you want to call it, that they're that they're kind of pressing this on us that families aren't like, breaking up so much they wouldn't on their own accord. Like some people argue that what's happening with people's divorce rates and everything else, that it's just like the the nature of human progression, like maybe we were we're not all meant to be in family bundles, and some of us are more meant to be like on our own and independent and not needing other people and not needing children. Whereas originally it was kind of weird if you were doing that. Yeah. Right. Right back in, if you're watching Mad Men. Right. Like whenever the the chicks like divorce, it's like a super taboo, crazy thing. Right? Right. And the show set back in the 60s. Right. It's not that long ago. Yeah. But now it's like almost if you're an independent woman, you know, making a ton of money maybe five years ago. No, not that it's not cool now, but it was like super extra cool five years ago. It's like, oh, yeah, that's what we want to be. It's a we aim to be someone who doesn't need anybody, someone who can do it all on their own. And that being idealized in our culture, there might be some help that's getting some help from some rich, nefarious forces, and a big meta plan that's in place to push this on us. So that way we don't, you know, I don't know why they want to do that to us. Yeah, I would try to destabilize. Right. But that's a conspiracy theory that's out there. That's the Illuminati. That's what the fuck they're doing that that's that conspiracy theory for sure. Yeah, yeah. I've also ran across a similar, similar rabbit hole. Right of thought. Right. But monitoring it, it's like, it's hard to say if that's what's actually going on, you know. Like. Like euphoria being step five of 100 step plan. It's hard to say for sure that there's 100 step plan going on against us. I can't quite tell, you know. But but maybe who knows? Who knows? Who really knows? If you do, let me know about it. I'll talk about it. My most intelligent self. I was making my most intelligent guest gun to my head. I'm taking a test. It's set to test. I've got to make a multiple choice answer here. You gotta hit it with a bang. I'm going with my gut. And what I think I what I think is probably going on is that if that nefarious, nefarious force I think is initially a partnership between Russia and China that started 50, 60 years ago. After World War two or. Something. Yeah. And I think that they secretly got together initially, just them, and they decided what they wanted to do was to uproot our American culture and divide us as much as they can, and then come after capitalism as a whole, as an ideal, and then uproot us and try to get us back into communism, at which point it would be much easier for them to then annex us, take over whatever it is. But just the idea of capitalism and that's it as the ideal and the fact that it contested Russia and China as the number one superpowers in the world. And then at one point in time, we were richer than them, I think they were like, fuck that. Let's at least get them under control and let's get them on communism. And I think because that's what the body of World War Two was over, it was potentially reason for America to invade and take over other countries against Russia and China, just based on the preferences or the presupposition of capitalism versus communism and communism being inherently evil. So if that's what's on the table, our government is inherently evil. And no matter what, you can come and save somebody whenever you want because you think we're fucking awful people or whatever, like, fuck that. We're going to like, fuck all of that culture. We're going to destroy that culture, literally. And so I think if there was a force out there that was doing that, I think it probably started with Russia and China enlisting a bunch of really rich people in America, and then tempting them with tons of money to sell their soul. You know what I'm saying? To do evil shit. You know what I'm saying? To make these movies, to get a Harvey Weinstein and get him in power and then just fucking enrich that guy and let him fucking do whatever he does. God knows what else is going on. You know what I'm saying? At some point, the CIA doesn't fucking want us to know that Russia and China have bonded to take over our culture. And we've been watching their movies for the last 50 years. Nobody fucking wants to know about that. Nobody fucking wants to hear that shit. You know what? No thank you. Just like nobody wants to hear that. The, you know. The war in Iraq was all put together. well intentioned, ill. Intended. That. Tons of people died because of some bullshit. Nobody wants to hear that. You know what I'm saying? So I think that they live in the shadow. That's the shadow they live in. You know what I'm saying? Just the idea of a shadow in general. It's like. Yeah. The outlaws. Yeah, that's the guys that they're able to hide. Like, how do they even exist? How could they exist? And we don't know about them. How could that even happen? You know what I'm saying? It's like there's some blind spot in our culture for it, I think. I think that's why we don't know about it. Yeah. Or also, I think it's just this is hard to keep track of every single individual. There's 7 billion. There's so many people out there. There's so many fucking people just trying to be people. And that's like the assumption that we're trying to make. Or maybe like part of the presupposition that we carry in our culture is like most of these people are just trying to be people and live their life. Right. But there are the ones out there. There are ones out there that live in the shadows or live in that, like the the land of the lawless. Like what? The damn the fucking cartels and people who don't play by the rules like or don't like or think about and talk about things that normal people would never think about, talk about. It's like they live there, like that's their home. It's beyond. It's outside of where the light touches and The Lion King. Yeah. I've seen that in movies. Like there's just someone who's so outlawed, like there's so a way, like a drug dealer in a movie, maybe just so far away from the fucking normal life that everybody lives. But it's their home, their. You know what I'm saying? Not so that. Yeah. Yeah, it. It's crazy in that shit. Yeah. Breaking bad, all the others. Yeah. Dude. So they're out there. This is. It's hard to keep track of everybody hmhm. Because that's why we're trying to give people more fucking awesome. We're trying to put things in place to prevent that from happening, from us being able to keep track of everybody. Yeah. It's like, oh, ooh, governments get a little weird, right? There are like the freedoms that we're granting people or things that are deemed to be God given. it's like freedom of speech or like some privacy, you know? Right. But if there's this nefarious group and our governments here to protect us, they're just completely unaware. They just don't fucking know. Maybe they know they're in it. They're in on it. Now. We're talking. Now. Now we're talking about a shadow. Because it's like allegedly in the system that the school system raises you to just believe more or less is that like our government would stop that our fucking military, our patriots, our flag bearing people, they're not going to let some some nefarious force drive something into our culture to regulate, regularize pedophilia. You know what I'm saying, for instance, or drug dealing or human trafficking or, you know, whatever the fuck else is going on that we don't know about, you know, Like, they should fucking be stopping that. There should be fucking presidents on the fucking news. And we just found out about Pizzagate and we're fucking doing something about that, okay? Yeah. Right. What the fuck that? Yeah, because they're in on it. It says something. I don't know if it says that, but it says something. You know what I'm saying? It says something and saying something. I'm trying to hear it. I'm trying to listen. They're in on it. They're doing it. You. Oh, my God knows. Who knows where it stops. Lord knows some. Of those names. Yeah, because I watched and I'm not sure if it's still out there. Maybe there's a variation of it still out there. It's called Falco Ball. So like that on YouTube. So like a YouTube series, like maybe like ten episodes from what I remember, watch it like 2 or 3 years ago, but that shit was talking about some shit. Going on. Like Pizzagate for show, really big time. A lot of a couple other examples of just like some weird, weird looking shit. It's like our being kind of manipulated over here. but yeah, that Pizzagate thing was crazy, bruh. Alex Jones talking about that. Dude back in. That's the first thing you think about when you think about Alex Jones. He's right. That's it. I think I think the first half of general people is he's crazy. I think Joe Rogan helped change that narrative a little bit like that. Crazy motherfuckers, right? About a lot of shit. That crazy motherfuckers, right? Like he's he's on ten, but he's off. He's he's fucking right. Sometimes. More often than not, actually. Surprisingly. He's like that. One time. While that land is shit things you would never believe, but sometimes they come out to be true. I have a little validity to them. Crazy guy right? But he was talking about this big put together. Yeah, yeah, fucking Pizzagate was crazy, bro. I guess like some of the names associated with Pizzagate, it's like it goes up to fucking everybody. Everybody in that bitch. Yeah. We talked about who went to one seed island. You look at that list of people. Functions are all over. It, right? Fuckin a lot of celebrities. Who's a Microsoft guy? It's like it is on there. It's like, what the fuck the fuck? You never know, bro. See, I think there's another movie. I think my fiance, such as she has watched that opened her eyes to this idea as well. Back in the day. I think it's called out of shadows. Out of the shadows or Out of shadows. One of the two somewhat that. But I guess it's just talking about this crazy interweb thing interwoven like nefarious force that might be trying to fuck us up and might be intertwined with some other forces that want to have us have a destabilize society. Land of the lawless, a little more easy to control, to pacify, distract. I agree, because what's the one. Fucking thing that people die for, like in the movies? And like in real life or like that are willing to die for most people are willing to die for like their son or like their daughter. You know, I'm saying like a family, like your mom or your dad, like. What are you saying? That's like our strongest social connection. That's like our strongest point. It's like the family. So it's like, if you don't have anyone to fight for or anything to fight for it, then you're not going to fight right? You're going to do whatever the fucking government tells you to do, or whoever is supplying your existence. Keeping you going. Right? Right. Because I was like, yeah, they're trying to do this. It's like, not me, me and my family. We're going, we're going to hold out, bro. We're going to fucking go down to our already in Texas, but go down my fucking stepdad is, I guess, not a ranch, but he bought some land. Get some guns and you got to come and take it. Like, get the fuck out. Here. I was going to get there with you. Texas, right. Boy? Come and take it, bitch. Yeah. Then that's that's crazy. Because, like, that's why I. The biggest thing I get really active about politically is if they come after the Second Amendment, there's. You can't bro. You can't because it's the only thing that's like, okay, maybe you're in the government, maybe you got the culture, maybe you do, but you're not in my culture. You're not in my. House. Yeah, you are one small blast of what's going on in my life. And you guys can never control that. You can never. Yeah. You can never take over my, my, my fucking. You'd have to like and slave home. You know what I'm saying? You got to kill me, bro. Yeah. It happens to people that get enslaved. For sure. If you went to a Nazi prison camp. Dude, they made it. You're fucking. Nope. You're in. What is a holocaust, you know? But to keep that, to keep everything, the ability to minimize it to it, nothing. Because it's not in your real world. Where in front of you do you have to be able to bear arms, like, have to you got to be thank they ain't taking me and they ain't taking my guns like you're just not on my family. Oh my family. We're gonna shoot it out. You're not taking my family like you know that is is. Yeah. Maybe that's part of this. One of the strongest forces, bro. It's like one of the like, we're true love comes from. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I think I've had this. Thought also hardwired to feel that. Right. What do you mean? Like in our DNA and stuff, you know, because, like, we're reproductive creatures. So you're supposed to, like, I heard this thing that was like. the. Only the receptor, the thing that creates love or feels love, its job is to connect the parent to the kid. And then when you feel love, even for a partner, it's still the same receptor that was bonded and placed with the purpose of for the the parental to child love to like keep them together to like make sure that the parents take care of the child and to make sure that the child doesn't act like a sociopath to the parents, like they love each other, you know what I'm saying? And there's a receptor designed to do that. But then the same when you're in love with your wife and then it's like they're examining the same receptor, it's like it's not a different fucking place in your brain that's doing that. So then there's to say, like, there's, The same pathway. Yeah. Like it's like one one like the family. Like it's literally we have. I. Don't know if that's just to keep us going as a species or because it's priority number one in our hearts. You know what I'm saying? Right? Right. Maybe I, I think it might be that one. The latter. That's the asking the heart one. That's it. I think it is. Because you feel something. Living in love. Yeah. You live in feeling for sure. You feel your life. You feel your experience. Right? Like love is a big one. Pain for sure. But love, love and pain are like, right there. They're right there. Like top of the list. Right? And like true love or. Yeah, being able to like, love someone I think. Yeah, I think I'm, I remember having this connected moment with the idea of like, loving someone or loving something and then like, the phrase I got are, children are God's gift. It's like the ability to have a child and be like, I love that thing, you know? So I would die for that thing. I would kill for that thing. Right? I'm saying, yeah. I think that's maybe what they're trying to destabilize. Maybe you can't come and try. Yeah. Come on, take it, bro. Bro, I'm also just, Me. But you, you, you know me. And that's just how I feel a lot of times where it's just like, no matter how you want to make me feel, no matter how anybody wants to make me feel about anything, like, me, like, And I'm true to myself, too. Like, I'll. I know how to feel something. I know how to listen to that thing. And even if I know there's other stuff going on I got to cope with and deal with, like that feeling of like how how I feel about something like, you just can't take that from me, you know what I'm saying? So now that's what, like, you could try to persuade me all you want, you know what I'm saying for sure. But like to be persuaded. Like you'd have to like it. Have to be true. Like I'm. That's also. I want to be open to persuasion, too, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but, take away how I truly feel about something. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can never really do that. Yeah, because. Yeah, I'm trying to live more on the truth. Or it's like, you can't, like, manipulate. You can only try so hard to manipulate the truth. Right? And say, I'm willing to let go of any of the things that have been, you know, several like, oh, maybe none of that's true. Right? Mean. No, that's just true. I could back it all up into, like, nothing, you know, say, make it irrelevant. Like, oh, yeah, it doesn't even exist. That's like that's how untrue it is. Right. So then you heard something like this. You're not going to be like, oh, man. but remember when they were saying that one thing, it's like you're you're out of that. You know what I'm saying? There's no influence on you anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't you can't do it. You can't, you can't take my I think we mentioned this before, but you can't take the like, you assign your own meaning to your life. You know what I'm saying? So you can't really you can try to influence someone and how they create their own meaning and what they think things mean, and have them create a life based on that lie and manipulation. But ultimately, if someone's aware and conscious and awake, then like, you really can't. Right? You really fucking can't. There's nothing you could. Do, right? There's nothing you can do. Sorry. Can't touch them. No, there's no fuck that. That's like the idea of maybe doing what your parents want you to do with your life. You just know it's not what you want to do with your life. No matter how bad you wish that they were right or that it was smart choice, that you had the passion for it. It's like, you. Know, like. I don't like doing this shit. I don't like growing tomatoes. I don't fucking. Like, fucking, don't. Fucking hate carpentry. I fucking hate it. you know, I. Got more splinters than I can count. I fucking hate it. So, yeah. There's so much stuff I like. And. And this is a field like that, right? Yeah. That feeling is, it's I'm so happy that we have that you know what I'm saying. We're not a hive mind. We're not truly manipulated in that sense I don't think. Yeah we definitely be influenced heavily by others. But sometimes you know it just takes one person to be like, no, that's not true. I guess maybe to identify something is not true or off, and it's just like, be able to stand on it, you know, saying. Right. That's that's the hard part. That's me. Like, I stand on this shit. I can actually be about that shit. I ain't about that shit. I'm so not about that shit that I had to say something about that. Yeah. It's good. Taste like to get there? It's fucking courage. It's like real courage, you know? And yes. The social discrimination or social ramifications for going against the herd or speaking up when shit's fucked or trying to set a rat. Social justice. You know, injustice. But it's like, yeah, truth. Whatever it is. This is wrong. This is this is off. Y'all gonna take a vote on this shit? I'm not going to go with a vote. I'll be the opposing. Yeah. You know. It's got to be unanimous. It's like, oh, shit. Yeah. Fuck y'all. You're wrong. But yeah, I guess what gives people the ability to determine what's right and wrong? Again, fucking morals. Talking about inherent good and evil. Yeah. Let's think about this movie with Matt Damon where he wants to go and frack oil in this small town, and it's coming down to these people voting on it, and he's like trying to fucking get them to, okay. So he can like, do his job. But then he, like, falls in love with this lady in the town. And then he kind of like, maybe knows in his heart that the fucking studies aren't quite right. And it might kind of fucked. It's kind of fucked. And then, you know what I'm saying? So then it's like, yes, I kind of decide whether or not he's going to like, continue to just like persuade and say that this is the right thing to do and be charismatic. Or if he wants to like, fuck it up or how he's going to how he handles this, this fucking situation, you know, and it's when I was thinking about that movie, I was like, well, ultimately one thing what drives him to like, doing the right thing is the feeling of like, love and compassion that he develops for, like, the people in the town. Yeah, right. So there's some connection between like that love and, like doing the right thing, which might be why it's so important to not lose the sense of that love that we have. You know what I'm saying? These connections that keep us aligned with what what what's the right thing to do? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right. Right, right. That's fucking deep. Right? Because if you like. Yeah. If you really, like, love someone, I love something. Even if it's just, like, in a general sense. Like you love like people, then you're much more, much less likely to, like, do something or act in a way or okay, a decision that would results in like a negative ramification for people in the general sense or like a mass scale. Right? Right. If you had that love, like really. You know, I love these people. I'm not going to. Put my fucking people at risk or whatever feel like you're a kingdom Lord, Lord of the fucking kingdom. These are my subjects, bro. I love these people. Hopefully you do. Hopefully you do. Hopefully some people. There's definitely you see the. The timing all the time. What do you think about all the time? North Korea's leader. Do you think he loves the people. Or South Korea? North Korea, one of the Koreas. North Korea, Kim Jong un. Kim Jong un. Maybe he does. Maybe. Do you think he loves the people, though, is a question? Yeah. maybe. Maybe that's ain't. No. Of course. Probably. Probably. We'll say yes. We'll say yes. I love you. Guys. But I think he loves. Ruling the people more than he loves the people. You know I guess from like a dictator standpoint that yeah they kind of make what a dictator is. Yeah. Someone who loves the ruling more than the actual thing that the ruling. Yeah. Checks out right. Checks out. But also you could love ruling I love. It I love it. Oh my God. Ruling ruling it rules animals or allergies. Oh God I'm ruling right now. Well that's a rule. Right I decree, but also sorry if I'm talking about. This at the same time. At the same time. They love. Ruling. You could be a benevolent ruler too. I'll do anything to keep this shit. I'll do any. What do you guys want? What makes you happy? you can have it, I don't care, you know what I'm saying? Okay. you could even be like, somewhere more based, like, really enjoy the job. And I also really like taking care of people, and I love taking care of the people. But, man, there's something about this job. I'm so happy every fucking day. I'm happy to be a servant to you. You know what I'm saying? There's a potential for, like, the love of the job. Not necessarily being a corrupt thing, but maybe. Maybe only loving to rule. You're saying? Yeah. Yeah. Like if that feel if you had that feeling you just displayed about. Your job every fucking day. World might be a better place. Feel like that on your way to work, right? Right. I'm about to work. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. So, like, really, really. Enjoy what you do, but that doesn't necessarily make you corrupt. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. It's like yeah. If someone loves to rule I guess maybe. What aspects of it do you love. Or you know. Maybe it does that about it. That's the question. Now that I'm, I'm like really evaluating it. Okay. Get in. There was a question. Does loving the job more than loving the people innately make you corrupt some way? Because maybe you're supposed to love the people more than anything. And I'm saying it was like the ideal, like missing the mark. If you're not loving the people more than. Anything in that job, particularly right, or like ruling someone or like being like a in charge CEO or a fucking lord or a. King, right? Yeah. You really have to love the people more than the job. Is that is that a pure requirement? Maybe. Right. I guess we're talking about that with dictators. Yeah. Am I? It might be a cornerstone of defining a leader, a cheerleader. Yeah. Someone who loves the people, I guess, because what are the. Yeah. What are the. And that's not even broaden it out. It's like they love the people. Okay, well, what do they mean they love. Not like the people necessarily, but maybe like the a prosperous community is what they love and what they want more than anything. And it's like wanting that more than anything will just naturally ascend you to a point of leadership and like power just because, like, you really want that. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, that's that checks out with like Ragnar and Vikings because he's like ultimately his rise to power is because he wants to go explore, because he wants to like, get more wealth so that they can live like a better life as a community. He's like as a community, we always travel to Spain. Why are we traveling to the unknown land? It's like Spain is just like, not great anymore. Let's go to the unknown land. That's the best thing for like us as a people. Yeah, and then. That rises into leadership. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I want our people to experience more. I want us to prosper more or whatever. Right. Expand. Prosperous reign. Yeah. Just good interaction, I guess, with the fact. What does a thriving community look like? I want. That, right. That'd be. I think that's maybe a prerequisite, but then I everyone would have a different picture of what a thriving community would look like. Sure. That's where I gets a little. Thing that people such a strange place to be, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's easy to love the people until one of your people like murders. Bunch of people then. Like, how much do you love him? More or less than the people that he murdered? Yeah, right. It's like, should you kill that guy? Is that, like, loving him? The loving the people? Probably would probably take your fucking head. Off, dog. If he's. Like, sitting there at the trial, like. I'll kill you all. I hate this place. You have a king about you down. They just have no body to the ground, right? What do. You. How do you even handle that guy if you're not going to kill him? You know, what's the other? What's the alternative? Someone to sell the woman in prison, right? Right. Having a prison collie having a prison break must be terrible. What? Wolf? Just all the psychopaths criminy I get. Just decide. And he did. Watch out! Oh, God. Watch yourselves. Yeah. No. Yeah, bro. That's scary. That's fucking scary. Oh. I think about that. Because as a king, right? Yeah. It'd be way easier to kill him than if I ever have to think about that. Yeah, just fucking put him out. Take him out. Oh, man. Yes. Rough. Rough. What are we talking about? Before all this? We're talking with Kim Jong-Un. You know. King being a dictator. Really trying to define how important love is and how family based love is. Okay, if you love the people. Yeah. Yeah. Because loving the people, ultimately. How much does it help you if you're a CEO? You have a bunch people underperforming. It's like, I love them for sure. They're great. I empathize with them and I know them. I understand where they're at in their life and what they're capable of and what they're not capable of, what they can handle, what they can't handle. And like, this is not what I envision for what we're supposed to be doing right now. You know, it's like you got to let them go. You gotta let go for your self-love. Okay? So there's priorities and things that are shifting. Right? I think so I realize. That's one problem I have. Yeah, I just have I. Feel that it's like, Yeah. Because of Elon. Well, fuck the CEO. And we're going down a path where it's like, right, we're not fucking performing. We're not doing it. It's like ultimate. They're going to lose a job anyway. You're saying if I, if I. Fire them or not, they're losing their job if we continue on this path. Right. How do you mean? It's like if we're just all underperforming, like across the board. Oh, you say so. We're fucked. Also the line. Regardless. We're not making any money. Yeah. Like is that like then the conversation would turn from like I have to let you go. It would still be I have to let you go. That's like I actually I don't have to let you go. Like we are. All of us are getting, like, up. Right? It's all done. Right. It's like, oh, shit. So if I'm like the in charge of that company, I can't let that come. I can't let that happen. Right. You know what I'm saying. Is like. Inevitable. Yeah. I need to be able to for everyone else's sake or whatever. If it's only like a couple, a couple people underperforming or whatever, the metrics are not being met. Right? It's like, God, we got to let those people go. It's like for the safety and foundation of like the core of who's keeping us going. Right? Like the rest of the business, the rest of the people who are doing the job and depend on this job. It's like, it sucks. We're going to let's go. Let's go. All right. But kind of I have to, you know, I'm saying. Right, I guess. So then I guess that's kind of like self-love to to a little bit of a degree at least. But also for the general, it's like overall health of the organization. Right? It's like, I can't do this, man. I can't let this shit go. I gotta go, you gotta go. Right. And that's that's transcendent of love in that moment. That's not a love. Love for that individual. Right? Right. Yeah. You're not like that one particular moment. I believe in you giving you a second chance right now. Because I love. You. Like. At some point. At some point, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At some point, it's like, if that's what I'm saying, there's an issue with being like, hold on, I love this person. You know what I'm saying? It's like I what point do you bench your favorite fantasy player? Yeah. Right. What point do you drop them from the team. Right. Right. You're first round draft pick. this is terrible. Yeah. First round draft pick. It's week nine. He's had a never never broken ten points. You've got a small bench. Small bench by weeks coming up. Oh some waiver wire pickups looking pretty promising. Some injuries happening. It's like oh. I had to drop that guy. My favorite player. My favorite player. That plays drop and duds. He's dropping goose eggs. Yeah. It's about a sandwich guy. Let him go. Let him go for the good of the team I love him. Then if our team is going to playoffs, continue on this path. No one gets. To go to playoffs. No one right? So then make some moves. This love feeling is transcendent of decision making. Then it's it's incorporated infused, but it's just larger than it's at. Its actual definition exists at a different scale from like making fantasy football decisions or firing people at a company. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can love somebody and it's not like. I. Don't I it's it's bigger than making choices here in there. You know what I'm saying? Because you could fire someone and realize it's a mistake and you could still love them. You know what I'm saying? You could have loved them the whole time. You know what I'm saying? Like, love isn't necessarily like. The. The driving force of, like, choice making per se. It's just like infused in the inspiration that is choice making itself. And then I think maybe without. The inspiration. In our choice making, maybe our choices are so poor that we're a more equitable country, or I don't know why they're trying to take the family base out to remove love as one of the inspires for choice making. Why would they do that? Why would anybody do that? You know, I'm saying. Yeah, I guess what would be the consequence? So what would happen if we did do that? What would it look like? I'll probably collapse. I want to people. Not letting love influence. Our choices. Right. I want a psychopaths, right. It's like, oh, I want to get my I'll get it while the genes. Good. Yeah. I don't know what Russian community is like, you know, one's. Wanting to do on his business or pay on his work or being on his relationship or. it's like, try to. Envision what the society looks. Like. They don't. Want to live their. Fuck that. I'm chilled. I'm pretty chill. The fuck that, bro. This shit, like, don't have any honest relationships. You don't get to experience, trust and love. And those things are like, yeah, why are all the movies and all the art about it? You know what I'm saying? Why? Why is it one of the things that goes into choice making? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like one of the most beautiful things we have for sure. Certainly great love. Is it? Yeah. Loves the one. Yeah. It's like the. Like a base. Yeah. It's like one of the base things that we get to experience. I like, I think maybe you might be like a trigger to let us know that we're, like, alive. A part of it. Pain for sure. I was like, you're real. You know, like, this is like a it's real in a sense, enough for you to perceive things and to feel things into like have action, reaction. Yeah. And you like your emotions and also physical for sure as well. So it's I mean I love is like the big one bro. 11 pain love and pain for sure. I think Adrian Peterson mentioned that as like pain is like what's the most what's the most foundationally true reality. Like pain like you can't you can't argue that. You can't argue it away. You can't. It's like if you're feeling pain, like. You're in pain. That's it's real. At least to you. Yeah. At least in that moment when it's happening, it's real enough. Yeah. To like, make you feel a certain way. It's like, oh, this fucking sucks. Things like, I think love is more transcendent than that. It's even deeper. It's even bigger than that. If you look past the pain, love and be the most true foundational thing that there is, and we're born out of that. But yeah, maybe a society that doesn't have that as like a presupposition or like a running theory of like how to be like a person. It's like you just carry love in your heart. It's like going to carry you through a lot of situations that'll get you through. 99% of shit should be like a loving person. And when it's not reciprocated, it's like you have faith. It's it's all going to be work. It's not going to work for good. It's all fucking faith and belief base. But so. Maybe society that doesn't have that love and faith and belief based, it's going to be a way different place. To live. I guess they could still be because there's still atheists out there who are. Like good people, quote unquote. Like they're chill, treat you, treat people with love and respect. That's it. You know, you got to be like religious to do that. Yeah. You're right. I think one of the. Maybe like the other thing about these honest, respectful, loving choices and priorities that you have is that they're just more true. Like they're literally like a better like taking myself almost like the Matrix out of what we think the world is. And maybe like, for instance, when America was fighting, you know, and World War Two, like the foundation of what we believed in and what was like important to us and like. The. I mean, I say like Western Christian based culture, but I mean, like this cookie cutter house, job, family, have kids, this like American culture that we'd built. Like that thing was just like metaphysically, foundationally more true and more worth fighting for. And it like, helped us to win the war by forces outside of our own control, you know what I'm saying? So maybe that's one reason why they're always fighting against that is because you can't ever beat it. Like you could never get to the. You. Can't dominate the world like your presuppositions and your ideals are just too flawed. And as long as we stand for like love and like stand up and do the right thing and, like, have this like, real thing that we're pursuing, then you can never actually beat us. You can't. Like, you can oppose us for sure. But like this, that this thing that we represent will always beat you. And so you're coming after the thing that we represent and trying to take it away from us so that we don't represent it anymore. Yeah. So that maybe you could one day actually dominate us. But I think that that's the thing about, like, the hero or the protagonist always like finding its way to be the protagonist is like they represent something that's more true and more real. Yeah. But yeah, that's it. Like that. Love frequency is like. It's too big, bro. You're little like, oh, man. You know doing it. It's like not the same like to me. Yeah. It doesn't vibrate the same. Nah. So yeah, fighting with different weaponry. Right. Right. Like you're fine with smoking sticks and stones. Yeah. And we got love guns, right? I just imagine, like, two militaries are, like, coming at each other, and they're outnumbered 30 to 1, and they're never going to do it. And then, like an earthquake happens in the whole 30 to 1 military, like the big military, just collapses into the Earth, and then they root them and they went right afterwards. It's like the idea of that it sounds silly and like something maybe you'd see in like a biblical, biblical story, right? Yeah, literally. But I think that that's just like that when we're talking about all of these very real things, that that thing resonates with me. Like, why is the love thing important? Why is it. You know. Why is why would we why would they care so much about taking it away from. Us? You know. Because it's like a superpower. Like, I don't think that they can physically beat us in this realm if they represent. Bullshit. Yes they can. Yeah. Like I'm sorry. As long as I'm able to articulate and stand on and be like doing the quote unquote right thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Truth and love. Right? If I'm able to identify those things and articulate those things freely, like which I am or like I can, you know what I'm saying? Conform fucking. Put me in a. Voice in a cell. Whatever. Right. Lock me down. Solitary confinement. Now I'd be a little different. I might be a little fucked up. But if I did it, I still got God, you know? Really? Just because. Always just me and God, that's it. None of y'all are real. Like, yeah. As far as real is, that is like, the thing that's generating my experience is way more real than anything that's happening in my experience that's being generated. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And maybe we're all there. Maybe they're fighting at the generated experience level. Like, you can't even fucking touch my generator. No. Like, you know, thinking like, try to kill my character, but like, I'm a master chief. I respond, oh, I'm just like, fucking come back tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Coming back. I'm good. You keep telling yourself that. Well, you said 30 days in the whole. You tell yourself that a lot. Nothing's real. The main generator. Man. God. Just a god in a cell right now. That's all they've been. For 30 days. Ever gonna be. That being said, I have no fucking doubt that you could get through that. I think there would be some weird physical things that happen. Like you'd start to be delusional a little bit, and you'd be, like, fighting with your own brain a little bit because you'd be so deprived. Yeah, probably some legend. Now there's some weird fucking. Some weird. Shit, psychedelic shit going. On. Some weird shit would happen. I also think you could meditate through it. I think so too. That's what. That's what the monks do. They like, they always be doing. They should be reading and meditating. Reading and meditate. Yeah, you'd have to. Like if you could find a way to pop out of yourself like fuckin the one. Yogi. What's his name on the Saint? Joe Rogan all the time. Sadhguru. Sadhguru talks about we just find a way to I think that might be the right stimulus. You know, I'm saying you're in the hole for 30 days. It's like, nope, I'm coming out. Yeah. That'd be the right thing to do it. I'll see y'all in a month. Seriously. It would definitely be some psychedelic experiences to that. But yeah. Oh yeah. That'll be fucking trippy. What you're saying is true because you'll respond so in 30 days. Sure. Maybe you're fucking crazy in 29 days. Through batshit crazy 30 days, you're banging your head on the wall and they pull you out and they put an I.V. in you and get you some Tylenol and like, two, three, four, five, six, seven days pass, like you're going to be you again. You know what I'm saying? they can't really, like, hold it down forever. And I also think the forces that be God, for instance, with doesn't let that happen to people. There's always a fucking little story action. Someone left the door open. You know. The nurse didn't want to give the guy the meds anymore. Like, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's some little wiggle of love. And something maybe pulling us to respect love and truth and. Yeah, yeah, pulling us in a direction. It's like inherently. Right? Like. Yeah. Like gravity. Is. Yeah. Like gravity. It's like we know what that is. You know what the fuck is? And you know what the wrong thing is for sure. Do you watch enough movies? You know. You fucking know. You know. If you're watching the movie of your own life, what the what they should do and what they shouldn't do when you're watching any TV show, you're like, oh my God, has got to act. He shouldn't do that. He's only fucking do. He's he did it. I fucking knew it. You know, since I got what a piece of shit. Yeah, you know, I knew it. This is weird. Yeah. It's a strange little gravitational pull towards love and truth. I think that conscious or that fucking. Maybe not even a voice for some people, that's like a feeling. Yeah, because everyone has a voice in their head. Or, like, they can talk to themselves in their head. Some people don't. It's a percentage. It's low. They don't have any. Okay. Allegedly they can't even like, read, you know, say they can only read aloud. I'll try to read it right now. I think I guess, yeah, some people are. Maybe you think I'm referring to like the, like a Jiminy Cricket or like something trying to tell you. Right. Like everyone has like a voice in their or like, can generate a voice in their head. So thinking is this. Is going to fuck you up, right? A it oh, don't fuck me up. Studies suggest that approximately 30 to 50% of people do not experience inner speech, meaning they don't have a constant voice in their head as many others do. 30 to 50%. Who, y'all? Who? Who's on the survey? Who's on this survey? Are y'all getting these people? I'll ask you. What the hell. For this study. And I'll also say this. So they can't read silently. It feels jarring for someone with a voice in their head. I'm jarred. Well, I've. Enjoyed. Really? Put me in a jar. Voice in their head. Does that mean they cannot read silently. Or. Well? So what? The kind of things you do with this inner voice think? Yeah. Think in words through inner thoughts. Because if that's true, then that's absolutely fucking bonkers. There's no way that. People just can't think. Or I guess what? What would their thinking be to them? Just thinking and. Pictures. So I guess a study kind of was. it's One of the most notable researchers in this area was this psychologist, Russell T Hurlburt. Who. Used a method called descriptive experiment sampling. And this involves participants carrying a beeper that goes off at random times, prompting them to record what is going on in their mind at that moment. So then wait, what? Beep. Nothing. All right. That doesn't really keep writing down. Nothing clicks. Right? What are you talking about? It's important to note that lacking a constant inner voice doesn't mean someone cannot read silently or think in words. People without a constant inner monologue may rely on other forms of cognition, like visual thinking, abstract reasoning, or other non-verbal forms of thought. They might still think in words when necessary, like during complex problem solving, but they may not have a persistent verbal stream of consciousness for Simon or others who experience a continuous inner dialog, the idea that others don't have this experience can be surprising. But thinking without an inner voice doesn't imply a deficiency. It simply reflects the diversity of cognitive styles. Those without inner voice can still engage in verbal thought when required, but the default mode of thinking might not be verbal. Similarly, silent reading is still possible. But okay, that's what I'm saying. It may involve more visual or conceptual processing than the hearing the words internally. Okay, okay. So there's something to it. Yeah, that makes more sense. Or at least somewhat like what the fuck? That can't even, like think in their own mind. I can't really read. It's like, well, no, there's no way. But I guess it's just saying that there's not or they don't have that. It's like a narrator like saying, now I'm saying what's happening, because I guess I would classify myself as someone who does have like an inner voice, like inner monologue going on with because I'm like, thinking about what I'm doing or, you know, or what needs to be done. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm thinking, yeah. This is where the world is. Right? This is all in my. Don't I organize it? What are you talking about? You don't have a dome organizer. Yeah. What are you talking about? And it says they did. Like, even if they don't have, like, the verbal portion, they might have different cognitive recognition or expression. Instead they might use image visual images, pictures or abstract methods. What the fuck does that mean? Fucking 3D chess in their mind? Yeah, something like that. Even the world differently. Like what the. Fuck? Yeah, I would think it's pretty normal to have like, an weird what? Because you have your your thoughts, like your dialog or your monologue. Yeah. For sure. And then I think sometimes there's a, there's a dialog going on whenever it becomes a dialog from the monologue, that's how I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this shit's getting crazy, y'all. Let's just get deep out here. But some people don't even have the monologue. Like what? What? What are you talking about? Maybe they just have. Like, they have a different monologue because, yeah, we have to be perceiving our story. I guess maybe, like, some artists might be like that. Or are people who are like painters or sculptors? I'm trying to think what it looks like. Like if you just wake up and you're not going to talk to yourself, that you just know what you have to do, like, all right. Going forward. I love. This song. Even, like. I guess maybe that's life to some people. You know. Whenever you're doing stuff, though, you still have to. Think about. It. Think about it a little bit, you know? So, you know, it's like fucking blindly moving around here and flailing things. You're like, we're it. We're not pinpoint accurate, but we're pretty precise with our movements. Like everyone, like when you're putting your fucking keys in your car and you know, he missed it a couple times, like, hold on. Yeah, yeah. He was like, get in there. Like, you. Think that, you know what I'm saying? And then you act it out. Yeah, yeah. You're right, I they think I know they think no they think yeah. They don't, don't. Somebody don't think they might not have that second part or like whether it comes into a dialog and able to like perceive a Jiminy Cricket Christmas in your fucking head. Right. Like, well like I feel like I'm like Pastor Ed talks about I got like a fucking something. This God drove the message in my mailbox, like, I know what that feels like, and I know what it feels like to come across coincidences enough times to feel that same feeling of like, my experience becomes a fucking dialog, or it becomes a movie that someone's watching. And I know that they're watching it, you know what I'm saying? Or it's like knowing that you're on camera, like knowing that you're streaming live and it just says one because you're the only one watching. And then it goes to. Two. And you're like, oh shit, there's someone else in the chat. Yeah, I mean, the guy. Yeah. That's all. Like, not everyone can have that. Yeah. All right, I think I think everyone can't have that developed. Not everyone does have that. Right. So I think maybe or I guess I was just trying to sexualize the entire question. We were even posing in the first place. I was like, what people don't have. Like even the first thing, like, I didn't say like that. Not the second part. Like, not like the they could see someone enter their chat in their live stream of life. Like, I'd see that sometimes, but they don't even have like the how do I get through the live stream? Like how do they do anything? Yeah. You know, they have to think, yeah, they had a thing first. They got to read. Right? Right. But as they're reading, they don't say I was running down the dialog. And then I came to a point where I was moving to the trees, and I was I feel like that is how I read. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean, like I read? Well, it happens when I'm reading. Sometimes I go into that place where I'm just, like, purely daydreaming. Looking over the words, like, yeah, reading with your eyes, but not with your mind. Not at all. Right? Like I have, like. What the fuck that I read, right? I didn't retain any of that. I just saw words. On a page. Oh, well, there's that time too. But there's another time where I'm reading it and like, so I've painted the scene in my head so well, or I'm so locked into what this mental image of what the scene would be like there. Like, I'm not I'm no longer taking in the words with my due to the I'm just I'm reading it. Yes. But like it's just playing out in this image in my head. It's like a movie. Yeah, it's a movie. It definitely. And then I'll like, get to the end of the page and I got to like, come back to like, reality and be like. And then I gotta like, keep it going and then hopefully, like, I don't get like. But when I start reading, it's never just immediately like, I'm in the fuckin zone within the world. Right? But like the fifth Harry Potter, I've every time I reread that book, by the time I'm in the middle of it, I'm literally just like like. I remember, I remember the the book Ender's Game did that to me when I was a kid. And then they made a movie about it, and it was kind of trippy because, like, you've got this, like, mental image, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, well, how you drew everything. I remember one thing that tripped me out is that with Harry Potter, how I envisioned Dobby up here was like, exactly how I looked in the movie. I was like, fucked up. I was like, did I see this somewhere else? Like how. Trapped in the. Describe it really well, like, I don't know if that's what happened, but like, I swear that's what it was in my head. That's crazy. That's like a good like casting. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like casting is they hit the bitch on the nose, right? And like, Harry Potter himself or Daniel Radcliffe. Right? He's pretty close, right? He's like, on the money, dude. I think he's on the money. Later, later in the the movies, he gets a little old. But at first it's like, pretty fucking perfect, dude, you know. I think so, yeah. Then that crush, that Game of Thrones is a really good job of their casting as well. Really. They hate that bitch. Nice day data. Shit. Righteous fucking nice. Yes, it. Yeah. Here is, It's a little weird when it's all, like, parody. Like we got to do the right thing. Out of my. Way, Weasley. Know he doesn't say that, but Ron. You pussy. Come on, Ron, this a times where he's a bitch. Yeah. His, the way that he expresses his nobility or, like, his charisma or like his, like, entrenchment and doing the right thing, you know, like passion. Sometimes I don't feel the passion coming out of Harry. That's more like. Well, that's. Not it's all it's like more analytic or science. Science based or something like that, I don't know. Anyways, we're just fucking debating the nitty gritty of. The. Wizarding World of. Harry. Potter. You know, our wizard books though. But it taught me I, when I was a kid to be like, able to realize I was like, mom, sometimes I'm reading and I'm like, in the book, you know what I'm saying? I'm not like reading the words anymore. And she's like, that's fine, right? That's what books are supposed to do. That's why books are lit. That's why books are crazy lit. Yeah. And I was like, okay that's cool. Like a good book should do that to you right. Yeah. But imagine if you just thought like that all the time. That's why I'm like is that how these people think. They're just like I'm like here looking at everything all the time. And sometimes I daydream out a side of myself and I get like, higher frequencies. And I'm like, feeling the feelings of things that aren't here, but like, maybe they're just like some kind of abstractly daydreaming their way through their life. Yeah, I guess maybe you're right. They're more visual as verbal thinkers, because I think that that's a that's a question I've heard before. And like, are you a verbal or like a visionary thinker? It's like some most people are both, but some people probably in one way more so than the other. I don't think in words for sure. Both, but definitely words is my primary. Yeah. It's weird. What's my thoughts like right now? Like, I, I asked myself, I'm like. Do I think. In words? Am I thinking in words right now? And then I'm like, I started drawing words with my mind's eye, like purple letters like this is with words. And then I started laughing at myself while I was doing that. And I'm like, well, it's not real dialog for the self that's laughing at the self. I don't see that speech like a closed caption, you know what I'm saying? But it's there thinking something, you know what I'm saying? It's there giving a response, a reaction. but like, you ever seen Dexter, right? Yeah. Then Dexter, he's like walking, and he's like, I love the smell of roses in the morning, but he's, like, not talking. But it's like his internal dialog, right? Like that thing is like when you're watching it, you're like, this is so fucking Ty. This is so fucking tight. And I feel like there's definitely times where I'm doing that. Right. Is that what we're talking about when we say, like, internal dialog? Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. Thinking with words, but not the visual words. Yes. Because words to me mean like put words on page. Okay, I see you're saying right thinking in text. I think it takes we're. Thinking words up here. Yeah. I think thinking in text would be more, more visual. That's weird though, because a picture of a word. Right okay I did I had to splice that wire open because it was confusing to me what we meant. Yeah, I see you're saying. This. Whole thing we're doing is crazy. This whole experiencing things is crazy. Trying to define it. It's bonkers. Yeah. It's bonkers. We're just. We're plunged in, brainwashed, plunged into the matrix. Baby. Remember when I was a kid, I was trying to think two thoughts at once. Do you ever play that game? I don't think so. You have to, like, devise a way to be able to think two things at once. So I'd be like, okay, I'm going to say Buffalo Bills over and over and over again, and then I'm gonna think of a hot wing at the same time. Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Bills, Buffalo. I think I did it just now. But like then I'd be like, how do I get to three? You know what I'm saying? And then in my own mind I would start to like have like a longer, slower thought out here and then a thought that's like a thumper and then I'd be like, then you just got to think one thing while that's going on, you know what I'm saying? Okay. And then I would do that while I'm just like sitting there watching TV and shit. Like fucking bored. Come on and play with my thoughts. Yeah, I play with thinking it's a I doesn't get a shit thinking that things. Well, I kind of thought we were all. Doing weird stuff. Like that. No, I'm saying I don't think I sit around thinking about that like so that's cool. That's cool. I definitely one other weird thing for sure, with thinking that I did when I was a kid was I would one of my favorite things, like straight up favorite things to do was to take a long, hot shower. And so I would wake up like 30 to 45 minutes. It started with 30 and then I got to I was like, if I get up even earlier, I'd have even more time. I'd go into the bathroom while everybody's sleeping, turn on the shower, you know, set it up, then turn off the lights and then creep into the shower and then lay there and just fucking think, bro. And like, it was so fun. I remember that feeling like I can really think in this bitch. Yeah. Like charging up my thinking stat right here. Like power training, thinking it got. To a point where if I was in the car thinking about a problem that I couldn't quite like, work my head around, how would I even. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Like, I got to take the shower. I just think it's just, like, attacking that. But I get back to the shower place. Will work that one out. Oh, that that that. Thoughts getting tackled. Michelle. You know, I thought now that was like a legit a legit crazy. That's awesome. Yeah. But that was kind of weird behavior. Not weird behavior but atypical. Atypical for. Sure. It stands. Out to me in my. Own self as like. Kind of a weird thing. I still love a shower, but I don't really do that anymore. charity. Is like a meditative practice right there, you know what I'm saying? That was like meditation action. Like relax, relaxation. It's like a and also, like you said, you're doing it in the morning. Yeah. You know, and you're like kind of your brain is already in. I sort of like not fully awake state quite yet. You still have a little bit of that. That juice, that. DMT juice. Whatever's going on with like other whatever generates our creative or crazy like dreams. Yeah. Whatever generates those things. Like your brain still in that dreaming frequency a little bit when you first wake up. Right. It's like you're getting that bitch in there and then you're it's like jumping back into that place, like in that already kind of susceptible state. Right? You probably some high level thinking in your hands. I think it's in that bitch. Yeah, yeah. It's also easier to explain to people why I was. She had the lights off in the shower for 45 minutes. No one was awake. What are you doing in there? It's very important. 40 minutes. We're going to be late. I know the lights are off. That's. What's he doing in there? Oh, over. You like seven, eight years old. Oh, my God. The obvious suspect was masturbation. This too. Young. Dude, I'm telling you, is purely just. I was thinking, dude, just thinking. Dude, you about something? Oh, I bet you're thinking, boy. You're thinking real hot. Loving a girl. There's a. That's so crazy. What did it? It's. It was started around seven and eight. When did you. When did it become a not a common practice anymore? The weird thing is seven and eight, when I know it was in full swing. And all cylinders, that's when I figured out. The lights off was better. Okay. Because in the. Morning the the lights hurt your eyes a lot. Yeah. So it started off just being like, oh, I don't want to fuckin deal with that. And then I realized, like, the feeling of just like being able to exist in the dark for a second when you're tired and you can open your eyes and it doesn't hurt. And I was like, oh, this is a more like, relax, stay right here. You know what I'm saying? Like, this would be a more enjoyable like shower experience. And then I realized that, like in the dark, you can, like, stop feeling your body, you know what I'm saying? And just be, like. Kind of all up here, you know, mental. Almost like, broaden that screen a little bit. And then that's when I was like, oh, I can like really think in this bitch. Like, I remember I was trying to figure out this when I was in school yesterday and I couldn't figure it out. And I was just like, I could do like this, or I could do like this. And then once I realized that you could just start being like, what about this? Or maybe this way I was like, that's crazy. The ability to do that is nuts. But when did it start becoming common practice? So it's like definitely a cyclical thing, like where I've built up to that point. And then, man, when I was in high school, I used to wake up in the morning and at that point I figured out even cooler what you could do is you could turn the tub on first, fill it up about halfway, and then turn the shower on, because then you're like, warm on the bottom and you got water. Hey, how'd it evolve, bro? Bro, that's next level, bro. Right? Okay. Wake up, like 30 minutes before I had to get out, like, 30 minutes before I would have woken up to get ready. And then take like. And I still think shower. But the problem is, is that in high school it got to a point where I would sleep a lot, like it wasn't as pure. I was so tired that I would just be like, sometimes I'd set up an alarm just in case, and I'd be like, out and just take a in. So shower and I out take that. The shower. It's a lake of all disoriented and soggy. Like I'll prune up goddamn it. Exactly, exactly. Okay, so I'll continue through high school. Yeah, I would say to high school. Yeah. Wow. And then let's just definitely when I was in college, there was a point when I was living at Arnold where I wanted to, like, fucking kick it in the shower, bruh. Like, what the fuck that? Well, we had, like, communal showers. Community bathrooms in some of the dorm rooms. Right. So at one point I took like a in, like a stepping stool that like an unfolding stepping stool. Got it. And then like, there was like a bigger shower because it was not like Jackson, y'all. Showers were like. Stalls. Installed stalls or. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but this was like stall scenario. But there was like, I think just two showers in our bathroom and one was like a little bit smaller, and the other one was like pretty big, bro. Like maybe from, like the edge of the table there to like the wall here was like the whole shower. Nice and so but it was mostly like concrete all the way around with like a small curtain for an entry. So I just turn on the shower, but I step stepping on there, put the music up on top. Chillin, bruh. Fucking chilling. It's like a song. That's why this song is so nice. I think, you know, I. Love the song A boy. Right? chilling bro. But then it was just kind of weird. Sometimes someone comes in to take a shit you're like, but as naked fucking. Chillin this thinking I a snack, I guess I find you insulting chilling, bro. Good. No. So it's weirder. In a public setting, right? A little bit. I realize that because. It's where you find yourself. I realized that I'm like, okay, I can't really do this here. But I would say, like when we were at You Heights and we got super fucked up the morning after getting super fucked up with a hangover. Need a dark shower. That was it. Go to. Oh that's it. Go see for you for sure. That Rose Roselle. It's funny. I gotta get out of here. Yeah, yeah. So there's, like, it changed in my life, you know what I'm saying? But I'm the purest. Like, the coolest was when I realized it could be a thinking chamber. And that was, like, around seven, eight, nine years old. That's awesome. Yeah, actually, it was tight. And yes. Now I've definitely I haven't laid down to take a dark shower since. Like, fuckin. I never did it at Foster's place. Yeah. It had to be like, right. 22, 23 when we left San Marcus situationally, it just got to where it was not like super viable. Yeah, I'm sure it'll rear, it'll make a comeback for sure. We work out now too. So that's another opportunity for you to have like this like place where you're thinking more freely and less obligated. I think that's maybe maybe it never left. It just, like, changed its presentation. You know. Yeah. But as a kid, it's like hard to have, I don't know, 7 or 8. I didn't quite know how to, like, step away from everything and just, like, just think and just work out things. You're always in the washing machine trying to get out of the washing machines kind of hard when you're a kid. I couldn't smoke weed, you know what I'm saying? it's some kind of laid off entrance and. Yeah. Just stuck in the kid body. Yeah, it's like I. It's hard to think sometimes. And then. Boom! That thinking chamber, bro. That's crazy. Yeah. It's cool. That's awesome. I remember thinking it's like not. It's like, you ever try to get a night out of, like, your fuckin. Rope or whatever? Cable shoe? Yeah, whatever it could be. You know, you're, like, trying to figure out how well I can't die. What do I need to push and pull to get it to do what I needed to do? Right. And you got to, like, find, like, where's this? I used to where's the center of that knot? How did this get knotted? How did we get here? You know what I'm saying? I'm doing ancillary. Not nine. Yeah, but, like, there's a. Fucking need call not to. Yeah, I need to undo clone at two and I'm good. Right. That I, I was like, that's the kind of shit that you got to think about in the thinking chamber as I was like a direct, like, transit of thought was like knots like this. Like, I don't think just like I'm frustrated right now and I can't get this knot undone. And I want to just give up and do it later like that. Sometimes it's good to do that with your problems and not, like, give up on it, but just be like, I need I need to go somewhere else to think about this because I'm not able to like do it right now. Yeah. Fresh set of eyes. Right. Fresh mind on it. Right. So yeah. Dark shadow change your life. That's crazy a dark shower bro. Fucking thinking. Plus to like. Get in there. Okay. So we got to be deep in this thing. Oh yeah. I'll say if I, if I wandered anywhere like an hour 40. 40 plus, I. Can't wait until the day we get to do another hour. 20. Just keep on pushing. Every fucking. Week. Every day. Do three AirPods. Come on, get some guests. On. Well, hello. Yeah. Thank you all for joining in episode 60. Episode 60, 60 them thangs. Boy, we've come a long way. That's a lot. That's a lot of fucking. Pods, bro. That's over 60 hours. It's closer to 90 hours. Content. Really? Yeah. He was like an hour and a half on average. You know what I like about it? It's it's original. This is an original thing. OG. I guess we're remaking Joe Rogan to some degree, but I think we're fresh. Yeah. I'm saying. Yeah, it's a it's a remake. It's a reboot. It's a little bit far, like new art. Fuck no no, no, it's. A it's all original thoughts. Like trying to find that it's. Like stream of consciousness. Yeah. Be like telling a movie maker. It's like, make a. New form for. The media. I don't wanna watch movies anymore. Yeah. It's like I have all the stories you could tell is only 26 stories. Is like, I want a 27th. It's like there's only 26. I'm sorry. This is how it goes. Yeah. True. There's constraints. But what's in that? We're fucking Golden. Recalled. Oh see all day I'll see you all day. Oh G content. I'll see you. More content coming, more everything. Appreciate you all for being off the journey this long. Thank you. New office, new spot. Looking nice. I'm fucking. With it. I'm fucking a heavy. It's a vibe. it's a vibe. Her passion for promo right there. Do do do do do do do with that. We'll see how it all flip this