Becoming A Father: All The Things To Worry About | The MJ38 Show Episode #66

On this Episode of the Podcast:

Matthew and Justin talk about Social Media, The Birth of Matthew’s Daughter, Self-Defense, and President’s IQ

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Everyone is happy that she's there. You know what I'm saying. And so like she went and practiced her set three times in a row before she went and filmed it in San Antonio. Just because like and then they were like talking about the idea that San Antonio is a chill place to just go run material because, like, you could definitely get on stage and that's like a big. City. Outside of your normal, like market if you're in Austin all the time. But big city, you know what I'm saying. So I thought that was cool. I say. Yeah I was like dude if they could just like get in the habit of. Doing that, make it San Antonio a hub. Baby. Hub it up. Hubby. How do you feel bro. We're right next to Austin. Texas is like the hub. You know what I'm saying? It's like, why? Why move to Texas? Like, we got a whole bunch of shit out here, man. It's crazy. We got guns. Yeah. Joe rogan. What else do you want? We're chilling. We're having a good time. We got cowboys. We got horses. Yeah, land. We got, like, a drive for six hours. And you're still in Texas, baby. We got two football teams and three basketball teams. We're good. We rocket two baseball teams. That's crazy. What a sport. Teams for a state land. But. For. Yeah. For one state. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Texas got it. All. I love Texas. Yeah I heard a Joe Rogan there talking about somebody said at first if you were too nervous to go to New York City. Just got awesome in the ocean. It's like come on. Because I guess, like, New York's oversaturated and super intense and the killers are there. So you can come to Austin and it was still big city, lots of room to work and grow. Maybe a little less room, but also like less talent maybe. Or it was just little. Slept on over here. Yeah, a little more chill. A little more chill because it wasn't that hot spot, you know what I'm saying? But now it's becoming more of a hot spot. Big time. Well, last couple of years, Austin specifically. Yeah. But Texas in general it's always gets good vibes like when we're in Vegas I feel like. Where are you from? Yeah. We're people from International Hub, you know, people from all over the world going to Vegas all the time. You meet people from Australia, people from Asia, different parts of Europe or whatever. Africa, anywhere, everywhere. But we're like, oh yeah, we're from Texas. It's almost an immediate it's like a positive reception almost every time. Yeah. I was like, oh, Texas. Cool. Yeah. Like, I forget who they reference. So what do they say? Rick Perry that Rick. Perry games. Bitch. Talk about the governor. Yeah. Some governor Rick Perry, right? I want to say. Yeah, I want to say that that's the name. But that was years ago. Either way, I'm so not. Having is that habit or I'm not tapped in at all. I don't know at all any of the fucking local politics. Oh. I'm sorry. We just trust Texas to be Texas. Let's just. God for mostly. I remember in college being like. Just like, don't you fucking. Are you worried about Donald Trump being maybe getting elected or, like, what are you are you going to get out there and vote? Like, what are you doing about all this, all this hoopla? Yeah. He was like, what? Who? Blah who who who's blood, you know? What are you talking about? Like, life is got its own. I don't even give an extra stress to stuff that doesn't impact me. When's the last time a politician impacted me directly? Yeah. And it's. Some people would be, like. All the policies and all that shit. And and some people would say that's a really irresponsible way to think about politics. But I just thought that you were just so right. You were just so right in that moment, and you still are. So it's just it's true. Or, you know, like we're all the world is the common people trying to get by, trying to fucking buy bread, bread and milk and eggs. Yeah. Let's get. Gas and go to work or do what we got to do to take care of the kids, for the most. Part. For the most part. So we're doing day to day. We don't really have enough time to be diving into the fucking policies. And the truth about who's doing what, foreign relations, where the money's going. Yeah, you got so many. Worries or so many topics to, you know. Yeah. Give your attention to. An educated voter is that's an interesting idea. And today, 2024, like how many voters are educated voters compared to like in 1980, being an educated voter wasn't such a, there was like less and less total information. So when you went for your politics information, I think it was more streamlined to you, like, this guy represents this, this and this, this guy represents this, isn't this. And, this is this guy's history, and this is this guy's history, and I think X and Z, I think that was more straightforward. But now it's kind of like, how do you even keep up? What do you know about Kamala Harris? What do you know about her? I know she's on a podcast couple weeks ago. Yeah. Me too. I know Donald Trump's been on many podcasts over the last couple weeks. Dude, it's honestly a very damning piece of evidence. Well, when I tell people about our business, half of the people are like, that's tight. Just like cool, man. So being your own boss is sick. Opening a business sick. They're just like juice. Congrats. Don't need to hear anything else about it, you know? Then of the remainder half, half of that half is like, you know, you're doing. Social media. And you're in the podcast for the social media as, like a marketing. Firm. That's like front line, dude. That's like, that's some you're like ahead of your time if you can like master that and be on top of that. And that's like right on the edge in the cusp of current technology and what's happened, what's really happening, you know. Trending how how we interface with social media or with each other, you know? Right. It doesn't matter if you're two new people can't adopt it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's too it's too blurry. They can't see it. That's some of the feedback I've gotten was like, you're you're so in the in the new wave. Like, do you get any like people that aren't ready to understand that, you know, stuff like that. But then like the last remaining quarter, they're like more or less want to say podcast? They're like, it's like disbelief. It's like, well, it's like they see a whole new business, which is cool. I'm open to that show. You like, tell me, you know what I'm saying? But they're saying, you know, that podcasts aren't like that. It's a fad or that they're not as big as that they are or that they're not. You know, why would a business need a podcast? You know what I'm saying? And then I'm like, do trust me podcast. Really fucking huge. Did you actually did. You see the doctor. Of the Kamala Harris on a podcast last week? Why do you think they did that? Why do you think they did that. It's going to be common commonplace is not going forward. You know it's like last election I think that was going on. Maybe, maybe it was on a smaller scale who knows. But eight years ago definitely not. But I think now and then every four years going forward for the next ever, that's going to be the run. That's going to be the the media run. Instead of doing CNN and some talk shows and radio shows or whatever, going to go on different people's podcasts, different influencers and curators, whatever. However they produce content, you're going to tap into those people, tap into their audiences. Whichever demographics map up or whichever demographics overlap with important demographics for certain states, whatever it was, they have a lot of followers in fucking Idaho or whatever, or fucking Illinois or in Florida, and we got to get this influence that we I get on the podcast, we got make a good impression. It's like way more that that's the thinking now. That's the thinking now. And like the people who are like on the forefront of that thinking, they're thinking like podcasts or like a getting into the the stream is just it's, it's you can't even you can't find it anymore. It's, it's, it's a necessity to have some sort of social media presence, some sort of touch to tap into the social media platforms that everyone's using. Billions, literally billions and motherfuckers, billions. Would it be multiple billions on like Facebook? And then there's what I learned about yesterday. It's called a WeChat. I think it's China primarily. It's like I'm not sure what percentage. I would say it's like over three quarters of their users are from China, but it's like a crazy app that has everything. It's like one app. And then inside that app, there's like thousands of mini apps that you can use to like Uber Eats or buy something or order something or make a reservation or do a review or whatever. It's like its own subset of crazy. Interfacing apps, like an all one stop shop kind of thing. That's just a fucking way that we're moving now, baby. It's like if you're not tapped into any of those at all, like nowadays. Like you're so fucked. You're so fucked. Every, every. Company is opening of a social media branch that's going to be or already is like kind of a subset of their marketing or advertising budget that's already been around for fucking forever. Radio ads and fucking newspaper ads forever. Yeah. Billboards and shit. A lot of people have TV commercials. It's like why, you know. Get their name out there trying to make an impression, trying to. It's like they need it, you know? Yeah. Right. Yeah. You need to get out there. And now it's just like everything's going on. Or, ever since online came about that that's been the direction and even more so specifically online, it's turned into these apps and the social media shit. And it's a weird hub. It's just it's a strange thing that we're doing as a people. It is strange. It's efficient. I guess it's cool to communicate and exchange information like instantaneously almost. I think one of the reasons we're still doing it is because there's negative ramifications for not doing it, not just because we like doing it. What do you mean? Like not being on social media has. You're, like, out of the loop, you know, like you're not going to know what people are talking about as often and your references are going to be off. And that's going to have like negative social consequences for like friendships. And also just like. It was not catching jokes. And you had like social social watering hole mishaps. Exactly right. Everybody knows to be laughing at a hack tool and you're like what? Yeah. And they're going to be laughing at oh, you never know any of the things, you know, tapped in and then there's going to be like a separation of like, yeah, we don't really I mean, they don't even never know what's going on. Like, you know, I feel like left out, almost like looked at differently for sure. For sure. Yeah. Not give a fuck though if you're not, if you're on those platforms. But I don't give a fuck. Yeah, right. You would be one of those people, right? Yeah. Right. But just just that to say that I think that that's like some of the looping that has made social media so integrated into our life is that there are like just negative ramifications for not being on social media in the sense that it's just so integrated that you're kind of left out if you're not doing it. And like, for instance, I don't know, like. Because I don't think you have to do it. Like I don't want to be on social media personally. Like I don't want my whole life to revolve around it, but like it. Well, now that I'm in a business of it, that's I open a business of it because of just because of how fucking. Unavoidable it is, because I can't not do it. And even though I'd. Love to go offline. I'm like a hippie in my heart. I want to, like, fucking lay in a field and, like, talk about the clouds, because I feel like that's like a fucking stream of consciousness, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's an experience. You know, I don't want to look at clouds on my phone and then scroll past them like, this is not an experience, you know what I'm saying? This is not a stream of consciousness. I do get inspired sometimes with my phone, but it's like there's just so many things going on. One, it's fake. Almost all of it's fake. Yeah, a lot of it's dressed up, embellished. Yeah. So to the fullest. So then when you go into your natural life and it doesn't look like Instagram, like, what if your subconscious expectation of that moment doesn't get met because it doesn't look like it is on Instagram. But that's like real life right in front of you? That's like actually happening. That's like a soil that could actually actually grow a plant. It's not just dirt, you know what I'm saying? It's like fucking fertilized with magic. Yeah. And fuckin, you know, there's this temptation to think that to pull out your phone and look at something else because this isn't as interesting. Yeah. And or to take a picture of this so that you can put it on the phone and thus ignoring that experience that's there that like stream of consciousness that's there in that moment. And instead you're going to go to the artificial world so that other people, you know, Drake said it in the song is like, take pictures so you could post later just so you can still look like you're on on the road or whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's you, you maintain a persona. Yeah. Dude. All of the fuckin temptation to, to do that and not just engage with life like I think we're supposed to, that's like why I don't want to be on social media. Like I feel like it's like Coke, coca Cola. Sorry. It's like a sugared soda. Very similar. It's like, I just don't. Don't drink sugared sodas. Yeah, yeah. There's something I feel the same. The same way my spirit of spirits, you know, just like at the foundation, I was like, I don't want to be on that. Or like, be, I guess giving more energy and attention to that then I think it needs. And then the amount that I think it needs is very minimal. All right. Especially for my personality. I see the benefits for others as far as like keeping up with family, updating people on on stuff and stuff. But like, I don't even post, you know what I'm saying? Like on Facebook, like I haven't. So. Right, like I haven't interface with the any of the social media platforms, like maybe a little bit here and there, but very, very minimally like maybe once or twice a year, a couple times a year. Yeah, I'd say like a birthday. Thank you for all the happy birthdays that came through. Right. And then a fucking like when I proposed to my fiance, like I put that on there. Nice. It's like, aside from that, it's like there's not many other situations or instances where I feel the need to be like, I need, I need to share this. Yeah, that. That's just my personality type, though. That's like just me in a nutshell, but I think that it is. So for some people, it definitely has the opportunity to be like beneficial, at least for that, just for keeping up with family and friends, maybe new sources, but that's what I use it for something I use it for more like that, like information gathering. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm. Saying. But like, even then, like, it's still like a it's still in my life. I'm still I still have it. I use it more so for this type of information gathering and not even, not even like commenting or posting or like, engaging. Really. You know what I'm saying? I'm kind of like scrolling through and seeing what people are talking about. What's happening? Yes, what's happening in sports, what's happening in news, what's happening whatever. Yes, bro. Whatever your interests are. But like as far as interfacing with it as a social platform and like posting my shit and like status updates like, oh, I'm feeling sick today. It's like no one gives a fuck, at least in my mind. Oh, dude, you're so wrong actually, because even people who. Post I'm sick today and then you don't comment on their post and they're like, you know, well, you didn't see my Facebook post. I'm not feeling well. I try to invite them out to the bar later. They're like. Bro, I mean, what do you do? You fucking just don't keep up with my Facebook anymore. That's kind of me being a little bit mean, but in another sense, like, my dad for a while was legitimately like, posted on Facebook. You didn't see it on Facebook. I posted the picture of the thing I'm trying to tell you about. Come on. What are you talking about? Hold on, I'll send you the picture. Okay? Okay. Yeah. So, like, they're, like, even in a smaller way, it's still like this pressure. It's like. Well, what is it that we're doing there. Right. What is it that we're doing. Right. I've had that question ever since it came about like in middle school. I was like what are we doing here. Like what am I trying. To do here? I'm trying to well you know what? We're trying to express ourselves. So communication at the beginning I. Wanted to post like fuckin sometimes I felt like my voice needed to be heard. And it might have just been like virtue signaling or. This was early Facebook, but it was like. Like what? What are you what are you saying? Something would happen and there'd be a big, riled up feeling of maybe they'll come for, like, our guns or something. Okay. And I'd be like, just so everyone knows. Okay, go on. Just to make it absolutely crystal clear. Okay, so all of the public, I was wondering. I disagree strongly with the current narrative. That we should. Be taking away our Second Amendment. The Second Amendment protects the First Amendment, and the First Amendment is what makes us America. And if you don't support what makes us America, I don't know if your true patriot. Okay. What are you doing here? With that being said there's also a lot of. Conspiratorial views about what happened on this date in time. That the. Okay, the bullets don't. Match what they say they were, you know, the phone footage shows a different narrative than what they said. And I would just, like, go through and, like, say shit like that sometimes, you know what I'm saying? And I thought that was like being a fucking good. Stand up person, you know what I'm saying? I was like a journalist, you know? I'm here with the facts, y'all. Yeah, right. Like that's important. I thought it was. I thought it was just, you know, this. And all the chatter. Yeah. Yes. But I don't think it's important to post that shit on Facebook. I just feeling sick today. I was on board. I was like, here's the facts. And here's how they don't line up. Here's some legitimate information and value. Here's the thing is, I don't even care anymore. I don't fucking care about what you guys can think. Whatever the fuck you want. I don't care that I don't care to tell you what I think you should be thinking. And I guess I used to care more about like, man, there's just so much bullshit going on in this room, I'm gonna have to fucking say some truths. You know, I want to fucking say, hey guys. Yes. You heard about tower nine? Yeah, you're about building seven. Okay. Come on. Okay. That's, the the the 911 conspiracy. Bringing in some. Shit. Yeah, but just being like, you. Know, extra information. Right? Because I guess we would talk about all that shit. Just what it seems like it's not going on so much anymore, but more like in the 2005 to 2015, there was more times where, like, something would happen and everybody would be talking about it and South Park would make an episode about it, and we'd all have this like opposing view between like conservatives and liberals. But like, that doesn't really happen. I haven't seen that in a while where it's we, you know, a school shooting happens and then we get all. We're keeping the guns, we're taking your. Guns. Or like I, I'm thinking about that. The other day I was gonna. Say like a big abortion case, like a big public thing that makes everyone have to pick a side. And then we get all. ROE v Wade. I took that away in Texas. Riled up. Yeah, like we haven't been doing that. Our feathers haven't been ruffled in a minute. As a society. Or do you think so? PD should ruffle them. But that's pretty ruffling. We've got it wrapped up. That's a good ruffle though. It should. But it should ruffle your feathers that that much shit is going on with that many connected people. With someone that you know, maybe you don't know him that well. That's a household name. You've heard. His name. You've definitely heard his fucking name. So that's. Yeah, I think we're hopefully trending in that direction. A further feather ruffling as far as information that's coming out. But I was thinking about that the other day is like, we haven't had a like a George Floyd or like, you know, say a school shooting and I feel like a minute or maybe not. I'm sure it's been going on shit like that. Police brutality and whatever the fuck else. I guess. We've been having more war talk recently, right? Ukraine, Russia and fucking Israel. Palestine. That's been more in the narrative last couple. Years, but it's kind of detached from us. So we're not, we're not real riled up about it. Yeah. It's hard to understand what's going on in Israel. Yeah. And with the Ukraine too. Well, I guess like in high school, I probably would. I would have like the viewpoint where it's like Ukraine was a part of this thing, NAFTA or whatever trade union they're a part of. And then Russia didn't like it because of this reason. So then Russia wanted to invade to try to make this happen. Like, I know that there's a reason why they invaded, you know, but. I don't. Know what it is, you know what I'm saying? I guess part of it was to is I felt like I needed to know exactly what was going on, so that when I got into these arguments that I could be, like, very factual, I'd be like, that's not true. This is true. But it's because I don't care to get into those arguments anymore. I'm like, war is bad, I'm going to kill people's bad. Okay, I don't know. I should be more educated. Leave it at that. Yeah. Can we leave it at. That's pretty simple, right? It seems like the same thing. With Israel because Israel's getting attacked. I'm pretty sure from, like, bad people. That's all I know. Nuff said. Brother. No wars like fuck does it did the alone here. Come on, man, we're almost chilling. Yeah. Oh, it's fucking weird, bro. Fucking War day. Come on, man, why are we killing each other for beliefs. Control, money? Why would you kill someone? You know what the fuck? One thing. About. Directly opposing beliefs that come when it comes down to it, or to how do I go forward? It's like, no, I think we should go forward in this direction. Like, no, I think we should go forward in this direction. It's like, well, we literally have like diametrically opposed directions here, pushing to go forward. And it's like. I kill you. Then we go my direction. Oh. Oh, that's fucking crazy, man. We are creatures. Yeah. The origins of war. Why? Why? There's a couple. Oh, okay. World War two is a patriot's favorite example of why you go to war. And it's because there's a bad guy. That's pretty bad. Guy. Yeah. Mass genocide. That's pretty bad. Which by start, that. People love. That because he's he's trying to go in that direction. You know, I'm thinking like, we should go this way. Yeah. We shouldn't go that way. That's a bad way to go down, sir. What the fuck are you doing? One of the reasons that the the fucking the 1970 Americans love that so much is because, it's because the war is wrong. People would say like, the answer is never do like, shoot people is to fucking invade countries and bomb people and shit like that. That's that's never the answer. Like in a really, fuckin libertarian society. It's like, well, if you're going in that direction, it's like, well, I'll just go in my direction and I don't really care what you do. But in then instance of World War Two, they couldn't you couldn't keep going in Hitler's direction because it was like they were invading other countries and making other countries communist, which would also propagate this like horrible evil, like any country that became communists could end up having a Mussolini or Hitler. We gotta like we have to keep it. We have had to keep it, democratic systems with, like, voting and shit. What's that called? Democracy. Yeah. Yeah. Right. That was like, our reason why we were, like, validated in sending people and invading and dropping nukes and shit like that was because we were like, we have to protect democracy at all costs. But I think that the what was what you were saying, just like if someone's going one way and then we're going the other way, it's like, we don't have to. I don't have to stop you from going there. Seriously. Yeah. You know, but that guy, we had to stop him. So we needed m-16s and grenades and tanks and shit. Like America gets to be really. Cool because there was such a bad guy. I mean, be the good guys. Exactly. With dope. Fucking shit. You fucking jets and shit, bro. You. Yeah, but it's because some people would be like, hey, it's not cool to like that shit. They're like, well, what do you want? A fucking Hitler running around? You want to fucking. Do you like the mass genocide of Jewish people? Yeah. Just that the where's the fuck's I come from, bro? Because it's got to be pure evil. Because I think I ran into a, I think was Russell Brand. He was talking to Tucker Carlson. Was that you? I ran into an evil dude. It's a real evil motherfucker. You gotta have that big one head to slay him. Yeah, yeah, but, I told it was. Oh, it was. Yeah, it was a Russell Brand. And I think he was talking to Tucker. Tucker Carlson. But, Tucker Carlson was more or less just trying to say, like, violence is never the answer. More or less like violence. Violence is only acceptable in, like, self-defense. And then I was like, thinking about that. More on that idea over a little bit. It's like, I think it's I think that's about right. But then I had the idea, like I was like, should we kill Hitler, though? Like he was saying, it was like literally example that came to my mind. I've had the same like I was evaluating the thought of love is bigger than everything, you know, but it's like, where is there an instance where I can't love someone? Then you know what I'm saying? It's like, where's where's that instance? And then that came to my head was like a terrorist on a plane. If he's got like a bomb on him, like, I can't love that guy right now, I can't be like, hey, man, are you okay? Like, I have to fucking shoot him, you know what I'm saying? If I had a gun on this imaginary plane. Okay. Yeah. Strapped up. Yeah. Yeah. Like, because I wrote that bar that was like, if I can show you love, then I'll show you how we cut throats. But then I was, like, trying to justify that bar. I was like, wait, wait, wait, can I not show someone love Hitler? Hard guy. Gotta show some love to. At his peak. Peak hit peak. Hitler. How did whatnot. What's the Christian thing to do? I don't. Know, that's my question. I'm thinking that's the. That's why I was kicking around the can of. Because I was like, I agree with that. But at the same time, I don't think is right fully, because then I got to a place with where I was thinking about, yeah, coming or like the example of it's only, reasonable or acceptable. Makes sense in like, self-defense. It's like, why else? We definitely, definitely need it in that scenario, you know what I'm saying? But then I was thinking about it like in the abstract kind of realm. I think I was like, took it out a little bit. It's like, okay, well then what happens when you encounter the spirit that requires you to need self-defense? Like, what's that spirit? What's the thing that would need me to be self-defense, if you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like, what's the thing that's generating somebody and animating them to attack me so that I need to defend myself right. It's like whatever that thing is as generating that and animating that motion, that action. It's like, what the fuck do we do with that thing? We can't just we can't just what the fuck is that? Because I think it's right. Well, you can say it's like evil, right? Right. You could say that. But it's not helping anything because it's just it's too generic. Like, let's say like someone's going to rob you in an alleyway and they've got the knife out and they're like, give me the money bitch. Right. You. And then in their own mind, they've already decided that if you don't immediately pull the wallet out, they're going to cut you, but you don't have your wallet. It's like you're fucked. This guy's just going to stab you. Because in his own mind, he's already came up with a tactic to handle you maybe trying to handle him. But ultimately, no matter what you do, because you don't have your wallet on you, he's going to stab you. What level criminal is this guy? He's like a level one criminal. If he's a little one criminal, I. I talk him down. I was like a level 12 criminal. I probably can't. I want to say that, he is, I see he's used drugs so that he could get to the point of no return because he probably can't really do this, like, all the time. He's not, like. Clear mind. Savage, you know what I'm saying? That's like. He's got kids. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Maybe. Maybe he does. Maybe he lost him. Imagine this guy's like, semi homeless. And this picture that I'm painting in my own mind, I love it. I'm here with you, and he's. He's robbing me. Come on. Yeah, yeah, it. All right. So you're in that position of like, What? What? So that would be the position that you're talking about, where you've now encountered the spirit that wants to, like, assault you or like, I want to use the word of self-harm. Right. Damage he's willing is that he's willing to stab you. And then he's got so much fear that you might actually stab him that he's willing to kill you in the art of or in the act of trying to rob you. So what I'm saying is that some of it is a tumble effect, because maybe he was like, barely able to entertain the idea of robbing you, then took drugs so that he definitely could entertain the idea of robbing you. Commit to it, and then to protect himself because he's so afraid of doing that, he is willing to kill you to protect himself. All of that is like results in what we're going to call evil on the back end. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, okay, so then where does he get to the place where he's going to rob you. Yeah. How do you get to that place? Yeah, yeah. Maybe he's needs the money because he needs whatever for whatever fucking reason. Who needs money so bad that they won't just get a job? I didn't have a job for. A lot of people. I don't. Know, I think a lot of people. Right. So. But some of that is like, what's what makes you desperate enough to to solve someone else's thing results in the evil. That's like desperation or something. Yeah. Yeah. The need for survival. Yeah. I feel like. He probably different person, you know, starving. To death. Tons of people surviving right now that are robbing people. I know like 20. You know, I'm saying it's not like 2000, but it's a lot. So I guess what I'm saying doesn't it doesn't necessarily justify those actions, but they happen, you know. Man, I just fucking, you know. Yeah. So. Well yeah. And I don't know, it's like what is that shit. What is do we kill Hitler? Do we not kill Hitler? What's the what's the right thing? There's a fucked. Up direction to take it. Because I almost feel like those people aren't like fucking. There's something not, like, right in their mind that, like. Like what? How is that ever an option? Like, I'm just going to rob this guy. Has that ever an option? You know what I'm saying? Probably a couple things. Maybe like if maybe if you're, like, around it or maybe you've seen it, right? You know, it's like, okay. So people do. Right? Sure. You know, so maybe it's a little bit of an environment and then, yeah, maybe just getting to a place of desperation and or I. Know how, bro, I know how. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You ever seen, like, a fucking cowboy movie for the bad guy? It's kind of. Badass. Yeah. You know. And he's just fuckin walking in. Give me the money. Let's go. We're fucking doing this. You shut the fuck up. You crying too much? Get on the horses. We're headed down to Arkansas. Giddy up now. And I see that guy, and I'm like, I could do some damage. I could do some fucking damage back in the day. Just cowboys rolling around. There's no internet, barely any cops. Shoot all the cops. If you want to. Use this. Log right in there, probably jail and probably playing cards. Dude, it's like, do whatever you want. Pretty much. Yeah. So. But then. But then I have this. I think those thoughts and I'm just like, you know, it's like Roy on Rick and. Morty and Red Dead Redemption. Yeah. You can just balling out, you know. Balling on Red dead. Going crazy. And then if you robbed enough banks you'd be richest. Fuck you get where the fuck you wanted. Yeah. You like Opie in that sense. Some people have done this with their. Lives Jesse James some people. Have done this with their lives. But there's like a thought that happens. It's like like I don't want to enter the realm of possibility where anything can happen. Or I could do anything to anybody at anything. And anybody can do that to me too. And like, I have to live in this place where, like, I'm stealing from people. And I got to live with that on my conscience. And I got to think about karma in a different way now. And I got to, like, wonder if I'm going to hell. And, like, there's just this line that if you cross it, sure, like, yo, it is, you can fucking rob people like you Rob, he rob a ton of people. Yeah I think yeah I remember hearing Joe talk about that. I heard like three different stories from Joey where he's like oh and then we stopped over at thing and then I hit the you know we're going out of town anyways. And they were all, hi, Uncle Jane. And I just ran over and I just robbed them. I just took the money from behind the register and I left. They never knew a fucking thing. They probably found out. They never told me it was Joe Rogan. I stole them out. Of money in my. Life. I brought a lot of motherfuckers. Joe Rogan. Yeah, my. My Joe was a great. Shit. Joe. Joe does the best. Joe hates a good Joey. Oh, hey, listen, Joe, I get okay? Okay, I'll get do this forever, cocksucker. But, yeah, you could just be. You could just do that shit. Yeah. You could. Does he ever talk about it or just talk about, like, his mindset or like where where that comes from? Because it's like, what the. I guess, why the fuck not, I guess. Yeah. Being in the energy of fucking GTA, Red Dead Redemption. That's not a well person, I don't think. Nah, I don't think that's, I don't think so. We're willing to throw those people in jail. So people that cross that line. Yeah, just robbing motherfuckers. We made laws. We made fucking law and order for this to for society, communities to fucking just keep on going and to keep on going. So then I guess the people that would do shit, there was enough people doing enough shit that we deemed whatever they're doing, it's like we need to create like a fucking rulebook to, like, not let that happen because it disrupts so much of society or whatever the fuck the people. Just the everyday, everyday motherfuckers just trying to live. I'm showing you bread, milk and eggs. Yeah. I was watching The Highwaymen, which is a story about Bonnie, not about Bonnie and Clyde, but it's about Bonnie and Clyde was such a problem that they had. They got Texas Rangers that had been like, since phased out of the law. They were using like, fucking cars and policemen and stuff like that. This is like, I don't know, 40s or 50s. But then these Rangers were like used to like, ride on like horses and be in the Texas Wild Plains where there was still like Native Americans that were hostile and like, keep order and like this guy that said he'd been shot like 16 times. Like, apparently it was fucking crazy when the Rangers were around. So then these Rangers are like in their 60s, 5060s, and then Bonnie and Clyde was such a problem that they, like, come up with this idea to hire these two ex rangers to like b. Take them out. Yeah. To take them out. Nice. Yeah. So they've got like the FC. Yeah. It's a true story. Yeah. Oh right. Yeah. So they've got the FBI working on it. They've got all of the local police departments for all the crimes happening working on it. And then they've also got this other two people coming in and then they don't really want the other people are like, get the fuck out of here. But like going down to fucking Jacksonville. I think I heard they were down there. They don't really want them around. But they get hired, they go and buy like $3,000 worth of guns and they just start fucking being Rangers again bro. But the and then they end up ultimately being the people that take down Bonnie and Clyde. Like they investigate them and they figure out their pattern and they figure out where they're going to be a couple times and they hunt them down. But Bonnie and Clyde were just like going from Texas to, like Arkansas to like Kentucky to Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, back to Texas and just making this loop and just doing crime chilling. They had safe houses set up all over the place, but their parents were back in Texas. And then one of the crew members parents were in Louisiana. So that's where they ended up, like pinching down. And ultimately finding them where like they figured out some of the secret messages that meant they were coming home. And so they were close a couple of times, and then they find them and then they they kill them. Damn. Yeah. They said that they kill them like it came down to a shootout. Standoff. Fucking. Like Bonnie and Clyde reiterated that the Rangers. The Bonnie Clyde. Oh, wait. What? Yeah, I don't know. The Rangers did that to Bonnie and Clyde. They fucking just like. The spray them, Like 50, 60 bullets. It was nuts. I don't know if that's an exaggeration in the movie, but was it? Yeah. The jump. Was there any attempt at it? Just an arrest? No, no to I guess the name of the law just fucking comes out. Plays up. One of the major motifs in the movie is they keep saying he's not going to, he's not going to get arrested. Yeah, yeah. He's they're going to go go out with a bang. Yeah. Like his dad says that to, the governor says it to them like it keeps coming up in the movie. They're like, he's not fucking gonna let you arrest them. But that could be a lie. That could be a lie that they're feeding us propaganda. Maybe we should have shot that guy. Maybe, I don't know, but but the thing, the reason there was the problem is because, like, systematically like like I'm talking about, they had systematically figured out how to do whatever the fuck they wanted because the cops didn't have, like, fuckin even really radios that worked yet so they couldn't, like, communicate with each other and like, link up and share details and like, you'd leave a jurisdiction now you're just in another jurisdiction and just in a sedan and nobody fucking know the fuck. There's no fucking license plate numbers yet. Like looking them up and shit. When was this? What time period? Like 40s or 50s. Damn. Yeah. Not that long ago. Damn. Ain't nobody doing shit. They do whatever they want. And they became like superstars. So people were like, trippin because they were like these flashy gangsters. And she was kind of like this American icon. Sexy ladies. Yeah. And, they had nice cars and suits and they at one point, like, they're in the hometown and then, like, they get seen in the store, and then these people just start mobbing in the streets like, oh my God. It's like shit, dude, the killers. But the idea of what I'm saying is really bad. And outlaw. Is like, fucking tight, you know what I'm saying? It's like represents the man. You said it when you were like, we need order, we installed order. It's like the idea that we could drive in chaos and just be fuckin superstars. It's like, I think that idea is, like, real or prevalent or it's something I think maybe in the back of all of our minds, I could just be a fucking wild cannonball and get it all done and ace everything. That'd be great. I don't need this organization or this thing slowing me down. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking crazy, bro. Yeah. Like who's. It's all just people determining what's legal and illegal, but I guess for good reasons, to try and maintain law and order and try to maintain a thriving society, you know, make sense? I'll place holders or I'll try and do our best. But the Bible says thou shalt not kill. Oh, no. If it actually says like that then I would just be my own dramatization. I think so it says, I think it means murder is what I've heard. Their interpretation or a Hebrew. I've actually heard pastor. I talk about that. Right. Maybe, I don't know, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but. Right. Okay. That's definitely says that. Self-Defense. Yeah. Because, yeah, I guess if it came down to it, it's like, if it's either you're going to kill me or I got to kill you. It's like, what the fuck? The question is, is, are you not going to heaven if you kill that guy in self-defense? Yeah. Oh. Thanks, mate. Maybe you're still good, right? You're still good. That that's that. That'd be kind of fucked up. If not. He'd be like I told you. I told you right here. That's the place. I couldn't give it to a plane. Right? To hell with you. Straight to hell with you. You know, I don't think it's that. I mean. Obviously, the whole idea of accepting Jesus Christ is that we will sin and still hopefully, you know, I mean, we'll be granted access into heaven through Jesus. So, you know, Jesus got your back if you got to work that guy. I think so, yeah, I think so. It's just fucked up. But I have the. I don't think you should kill. But I think that you should have some things that you would kill for. And I don't say that lightly, but I think you should have some things that you would kill for and some things that you would die for. Yeah, but you don't. That's right. But but you would. Yeah. That. Hopefully you have enough finesse to get yourself in and out of situations where you wouldn't have to kill or die for these things, that you would kill or die for, hopefully. But you would. And should you be in that situation, you would. And I think that's, that's just a mechanism that would push someone to where they need to go. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. I've thought about that. I've literally had that same like or like this same string of thought, like the idea of I guess in relation to like family members. You, I'm saying like you're like your parents and like your children, like you would kill and die for those people, right? It's like those are like the most are like to kill someone, to take, to take life. It's like, you can't be doing that. You can't be doing that all willy nilly. That's one of the worst things you could do with your time. You're saying with your time here is the kill killers. Take the and someone else's times. Like one of the worst things you could do with your time. Yeah, it's it's right up. Right up there. It's gotta be up there with, like, torturing somebody. Fuck that. So it's like, yeah, but the bit. To be committed enough to say, like, I love this thing enough, or like I care about this thing so much that I would like if something were to get in the way of this, if the equal and opposite force were to come in and bring that killer energy towards this thing, like I would have to, I would stop that at any means necessary. Whether it meets with a that'd be like with my own life or taking that life. Yeah, I'd be willing to put myself there. Like I would be willing to do the worst thing you could do with yourself. Yeah, to save for love. Or you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what really comes down to, yeah, you're fucking your mom and you're your kid. Yeah. You know, I'm saying. Yeah. What is that? Syndrome. Yeah, right. Oh, fuck. Someone up. You fucked someone up. I was like, that's. Kind of fucked up. How bad? I would fuck someone up? Oh, fucking no. No second questions, bro, for me. Bring it a bring the orange jumpsuit with. You, right? Right. Yeah, I was thinking about that. I was like, yeah. Did this thing means that I have a higher likelihood of going to jail because there's not a lot of crimes I would commit. Crimes I could do. Yeah, that life could do to me. That would make me care so much to act in that way. Right? Even if I were to myself, I would be like, still wouldn't want to send myself to jail over something that happened to me. I would just like get over it. Mentally. I feel like that would be the struggle. To deal with it. Yeah, but yeah, not for your kid, though. I mean, yeah. Dude. Yeah, this is a perfect Segway. We got fucking another member in the family. Fucking bring it in. I don't know if we got an official day. We talked about it on the pod with, ace and Nick. That was a month or two ago. Maybe weeks and weeks ago. But now it's officially locked it in. Baby's touch down, feet on the ground. Lungs got air in them. Crying, pooping, eating healthy. Baby, my dog is in the dead zone. Let's go. Let's do it. We're here. Dad zone. All right. That's awesome bro. Oh, baby. Now that's pretty crazy. Yeah. Kill for that thing. Yeah. For all. It's fucking murder for that thing. It's nuts. Yeah, the stuff they say is definitely real. Like, one thing is, after you have the baby, it feels way better than before you have the baby. Because just like a lot of nervous energy, like, gets to the point where it's like, can we just start playing the game already? You know what I'm saying? It's like too much buildup for the game. I think. When is this kick off going to commence? Oh my god. Yeah, seriously. But so yeah, I feel like, you know, like I fell in love with her in the sense where it's like, I feel that connection. I feel like like I think about her all the time. Like, even in the summer, like driving on the highway, you know what I'm saying? I'm thinking these thoughts, like. Oh, is my mom I love definitely said. She would fuck some people up over me. And Grace definitely expressed that she was like a polar bear. It's like the chill. Like you fuck with their kids, then you die. I was like, that's funny that she said that because I feel that thing to some degree. You know, really watching a crime documentary on Netflix and you're like, that was my daughter, though. Some parental ferocity, bro. Just in there. I'd be a ghillie in the midst. From a. Mile away. Bro. People, that's like the one. That's the one that's like the one relationship. Most people, I would say if they had it or they were asked, is there anybody in your life that you would kill for or die for? And who is that person? I think anyone who answered yes, the answer would probably be the child, one of the children, or something like that, or maybe vice versa. Or like your parent if you don't have child yet. The other thing is the investment is just too high after, I mean, you know, like maybe he's been alive like this in a week. I'm so invested. Can you imagine after like ten years, it's like you're so invested in that thing that it's like. And we do have a proclivity to care more about other people than ourselves. So I think that there you might not shoot somebody for yourself, even though I think you would in the right situation, but you would definitely stop someone from attacking someone else that you love. There's that urge to protect that's really just like like I'm saying, like you'll stick up for someone else before you stick up for yourself. Most of the time, I just think that's true, you know? But so there's definitely that outward expression of, like, it's all the investment. Is there like emotional investment in my life, like, all going towards this thing, like you're gonna try to take this thing away from me. I'm gonna fucking stop you. I'm gonna stop you. Like there's no if, ands or buts.

Dude, it's not like, oh, I'll try to be there at 10: 43:50

00. It's like, I'm going to stop you just. Straight going down. Yeah. So there's that. I think that, Yeah, man. She's just. I feel the thing where it's like, I think she's the most beautiful baby in the world. Like, I feel bad for all the other parents out there that head out there, baby. Someone you know, like, you just don't get as lucky as me. Let's go. But I also I also feel like that's obviously like just something that happens, probably with everybody's baby. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes. Yeah, maybe. I think so, but that's what I'm saying is I feel this glowing like, like almost favoritism or like this thing that's like. Oh, that one's mine. Like. It's like it's me, it's mine. It's like it feels bigger than. It's like the lottery. But you, you hit the lottery, but like, it's not a lottery. I think everybody gets to feel like that. You know what? I'm saying? Maybe not some people, obviously there's complications at birth and stuff like that. We literally we did hit a lottery in the sense where she's healthy, but, but yeah, just there's a lot of, like, magical things going on that I didn't expect to experience that I feel like, are these really cool nuances of having a kid, you know. Yeah. I like also. Like the thinking about it all the time. It's kind of crazy like all the time, all day long. Like if, unless I'm doing something, you know, I'm saying, but if I'm just like having these like daydream moments, it's like, it's like I'm in love in that sense where it's like these thoughts are like coming out of me or coming to me, and it's like I'm thinking about it like in the back of my mind all the time, which is cool. I like it, you know. That part is kind of crazy, feeling like this glow of, like she's perfect, but she's not. How could she be? But she is, she. Is right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, maybe that's the thing that she's fresh out of the spiritual world. So that's what I feel. You know what I'm saying? I feel this, like, perfect energy coming from just. On the other. Side, you know, it's. Like you're not. You're not a human yet. You're not quite. You're not quite a human yet. You're still, like, more spirit than human or more something, you know. More baby than person for sure. Oh big time. Yeah. More fetus in person still. Even on the outside. Just a little thing. No thoughts. Yeah. Okay. Maybe thoughts. Who knows. But no. Who knows. What's going on in the mind of a. Baby. Yeah. There's times and it's really different. Every hungry. They hungry for show. That's one thing for show. They hungry for food drives thoughts. There's somewhere she wants. She wants milk. And I'm giving her the, the binky. And then she like sometimes she'll, she's just upset. So the binky just makes her happy. There's other times where she is hungry and the binky's not making her happy. Like this, ain't it? So it takes her, like, maybe eight seconds before she's like, Milk's not coming in and she gets that same, like I just gave you where she's like, hello? It's like a it's like an angry question. Wait a minute. Wait, what the fuck? She's like, get this shit out of my mouth. And she just starts pushing out her mouth real slow. But I love low key. I love seeing that moment where she. I watch her realize it, and then she just is like, get it this away from me, you know, because it's like, that's a thigh, you know what I'm saying? That's kind of she's there. Yeah. She's there, you know it's there. Yeah. It's like noticing a nip. Where's the nip? Get this plastic shit on my face. Yeah. Yeah for sure. So yeah. Yeah. It's like immediate boom. Yeah. As soon as you're born, you got that tongue? Yeah. That tongue action. Down. Now you're like 80% mouth. It's the funniest. Face in the world, is it? No, no, just just reach in. Just try to get something going. Yeah, yeah that's crazy that that's a, that's a thing. Right. Because, because the umbilical cord goes through their belly button. So. Yeah. Just instinct. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. They're not trying to, like, fucking put it in their tummy. They know it goes in their mouth. Yeah. No. Exactly. That's so. Weird. But everything in their mouth, bro, everything's gonna go in their. Mouth, I guess when they're in the womb, they. They go like this a lot with their hands when they're eating, even though it's like they're feeding to the umbilical cord, but they still, like, have this gesture of. Touching their face. Yeah, while they're eating, which I think is just wild. Life's a wild. Thing. It's like. Yeah, that's probably the most one of the most important parts about us, I guess the sleeping and the eating. It's like we need to we need to eat, to live, drink water, eat and sleep. We need those things to live. We don't have those things. We die. Yeah. And air, oxygen, whatever. Breathing. But I guess in the womb you're not breathing. You're you're in like in fluids, right? It's like a fucking submarine. Yeah. You're like in that bitch. You're floating. Yeah, I don't understand. So then the air comes eventually. And that's natural to. Yeah. She just breathes. Yeah. There was like this crazy moment when because it was just like, man, imagine like you're you're a football player or you're a linebacker. This is all of my metaphors are sports metaphors. I'm sorry, ladies, but you're like looking at the play and it's like you got the play call, but then you hear coach yelling out an adjustment. And so you're like, wait, what's the adjustment? And then the ball hikes over there and you're like, oh. And you're like looking back and things are happening and you're like one step off of being fully in your natural rhythm of it. Okay, that was me when the baby popped out because I was like, lost in my thoughts. And I'm thinking this, and I'm looking at this and I'm like, oh my God. And then I just like the ball snaps over here. I hear someone be like. Oh no, I'll do it. I'll do 42 minutes. And then I'm like, wait, what just happened? And then the baby. It was like they were like pulling her out. But it was like, I wish I would have been watching when they were like, had the ball. Yeah. I'm like watching them pull it. I'm like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. And then they get her out and then I'm like, that's it. Oh my God, that's it, that's it. That okay, now I'm like trying to see her. And then I look at the umbilical cord because Nick told us to make sure there's no fucking red, chunky fluid in there. So don't worry. I'm about to tell the surgeons. These fucking. Dildos. Hey, man. Well, hang on, why don't we hold on a second in that cord? Just because that's what Nick told us to do. What he said I do. He said that if the umbilical cord has, like, fluid in it still to, like, ask them not to cut it yet until the fluid like goes the rest of the fluid to the baby. Okay. But I guess prior to that. So the rest of the food or is like, it's like vital nutrients I need to go in. So I think it's nutrients. Probably some important. It's. Nick said it was the rest of the. That's like the last sip of the nutrients that come from that. And he's like, don't deprive them of that. And I guess if you cut it to it, like bleeds worse and it's like hard to deal with after that. Okay. But anyways, I remember looking at it and thinking all that stuff, Nick said. And it was like completely clear, like go. So it was empty and I was like, okay, sweet. But I think it was even before that, in between when it popped, when she popped out and when they cut the cord, there was like a moment where, like, I'm like, I'm like, wait, isn't she supposed to, like, cry? Because there was like maybe two seconds? And I'm like, wait, isn't that a thing? And then she cried. She's like breathing, you know what I'm saying? And I was just like, that's crazy. It's like not breathing popped out. We're open. Let's go. Just like that. Logged in. Start in the game. Yeah, I started like, bro, that's crazy. So yeah she breathing naturally. This eating. Yeah. Pooping super super lucky. Everything's been like healthy healthy AF. Blessed. Yeah. It feels like my prayer got answered in that sense where like, that was the only attribute I prayed for and asked for her to be like, you know, I wanted. I thought about asking for her to be, you know, charismatic, beautiful, athletic, you know, but I did not. And I just asked for it to be healthy. You know, smart would have been another one. Probably could have prayed for. But I was just like, it just felt selfish. I was like, just wanted to be healthy. Yeah. All those all those far below. I'll let you. Handle the rest. God. I'm just for healthy. Please, just give me the health. I got. The rest. I got that. Yeah, that's it bro. You said your, your algorithm was changing or you've noticed, like, some of your some of your life has changed. Well, YouTube, YouTube. Definitely knows that we had a baby because YouTube, just like in the last, like, week since I got home from the hospital. Maybe like the baby videos on YouTube? No, none at all. No diaper videos or nothing. Maybe I should have, I. Don't know, is it I was sick? I'm trying to figure. Out how they would have gotten this information. I literally I was on YouTube in the hospital a lot like in downtime. You know what? I'm saying? Okay. So like maybe that was somehow how they could have garnered that's how I think they got the information. You think. Oh, so it's been recent since she's been born or like not leading up to it, but since. No. Yeah. Since I got home from the hospital specifically. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's been like a ton. And it's not only that, but it's like they're political ads. Watch. Yeah, they're like, Ted Cruz. Definitely. Would have killed your baby if it were up to him. More or less. They're like. This president believed in this and this. This guy helped this thing happen. And then listen to this mom talk about how. And this mom's like, you know, every time I see it, it's a reminder. There's two sippy cups, but there should have been three. And it's like this fuckin mom talking about how they lost this baby for some reason. And, it's just like, it's crazy to me. I'm like, why the fuck? How the fuck do you. Think that you guys are going to like? You guys are like, shooting videos to emotionally manipulate new parents into voting for who you want them to vote for. Because, yeah, we're real emotionally charged in this time. We feel differently. I do feel differently. It's not like it's not as cut and dry as like I woke up and I was like a different person, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like, I do have a lot of new emotions I'm integrating into my person. You know? Yeah. And for you guys to try to manipulate that into getting me to be like, oh, let me represent myself differently by voting for this person, even though I don't normally vote. But I'm a dad now and I'm fucking, you know, put my fucking. Well my kid. Vote. You know, you guys had a good example here. Yeah. Come on now, America. You guys are fucks, bro. That's that's crazy manipulation. That's marketing. That's marketing, bro. That's politics. That's crazy bro. That's definitely marketing. Yeah, I don't know how they have that information to to. Yeah. What the fuck. How could they have known. How could how could you possibly have known unless you were already like looking up like baby related stuff before? No, I mean, I Google stuff every now and then. They'll say maybe I think they're related. Google and YouTube. Are they under one umbrella? No. I don't, I'm pretty sure I don't ask. Is YouTube owned by Google. Unless I'm tripping on YouTube or something? So yes, YouTube is owned by Google. Okay, so that's how they fucking cover me. Yeah. Sons of bitches. Yeah, right. Yeah. All your Google searches are leading into your YouTube algorithm too. Because they use the same email to log in to my yeah, Google like home page here. I'm saying. Yep. Yeah, that's probably what it is. Yeah. Because the ads are crazy. Like when I see the it was it's two Super Cups but it should have been three. And it's just like sad mom talking about how I don't vote for this person because my baby would be here if some people like him weren't in power. I'm just like, you guys are fucking crazy. That is like high level manipulation. Dude. Bro, that is bullshit in your face. I want to tug at your heart strings, bro. It's. Yeah, and if I. See that, I'm just so turned off to that. Me too. That's what I'm saying. It pisses me off. Almost. Yeah, exactly. Like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, dude. If I agree with you, say shut the fuck up, all right? It's unnecessary. Yeah, I'm with you 100%. It's the form. It's such poor form. Yeah, it's sick or not. It's like it. Disgusts me a little bit. Yeah. That's a that's the. Oh that's gross. Oh, yeah. You trying too hard or like, it's it's slimy. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. This is. Pure manipulation. Yeah. That's not cool. See, that's a snake who. Manipulation is gross to me. Like that. Just like in any. If I feel like you're someone's lying to me or they lie to them or like, you know, they're saying this because they want that response. And then as soon as they walk away, they're going to be like, they're going to change their voice a little bit, and I'm gonna be like, hell yeah, okay. Yeah. Got what I wanted out of that situation. It's like, it's just like, makes me sick, dude. I don't know what that is, but yeah. To put that on ten is to be like a psychopath. Right, right. So every interaction is just that you doing that day to day with everybody you come across. It's like that's a psychopath. Yeah. That's a crazy person. Yeah. Some of it's like you know you talk to your grandma, you change your voice a little bit, you know? Hi, grandma. You know, so I don't talk to them. You like I was a dog. Hey, my tea's with a breeze. Who was that? I think it was. Drake talking about how, you know, old Drake talking about having a hideous taste of a breeze because he was smoking. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think maybe Chandler ever talks about. That. So I love that bar. If inviting in my eyes and my grandma will hug me, you know. It's easier for reason was good back in the day. That was a bar. Back in the day. We were like, oh yeah, yeah. But, that's. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a. I guess it comes into a line of manipulation versus perception I guess because you know they're going to be perceived. So whenever you go see your grandma you hear cheese with a breeze and put in eyedrops if you've been smoking. But like so is that emotion emotional manipulation as well. Are you emotionally manipulating grandma. Not respect okay. Yeah okay. Because because I don't want I don't want her to. Because it she's showing up to her house looking a little high. I know she's going to perceive that as disrespectful. So it's not like I'm not lying to her to when if. She's coming to our house for Thanksgiving. This is our house. Okay, grandma. That does change the rules. Because I do house rules. Grandma's rules. Dude, that's why I don't bounce. It's two cups, grandma. Come on. I keep up. But even so, like with your. I think that like. So my mom would be disappointed if she saw me smoking at the dinner table. So I think out of like, respect for my the spirit of my mom, I might not do it in front of my grandma if that makes sense. Even just like to translate it a layer away from grandma, even like just the spirit of what's respectful and what's not respectful, but also what's the energy that I'm acting in. That's another big, I think, barometer for what we're talking about. Like if I'm doing it to be respectful or am I doing it to lie to her? Oh, I see. I think she's dumb or do I respect her? You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's manipulation means like I can pull wool over their eyes, I can trick them, I can take what I want and they know they don't know the better. Yeah, yeah. Or it's like, yeah, it's like tricking the manipulation tint from that word. I guess it's the same thing as, like, just trying to have a nice presentation, you know what I'm saying? Like a. Restaurant. Sure, sure. They're trying to make it seem like, okay, we're poppin, we're poppin, we're good. Right? But, like, you don't know what's going on for real. Right? You know what was. Really happening. Right? So that's a different manipulation. Yeah. I try to lie, I guess I don't know. Yeah. What we were talking about is the energy of where it's coming from. So what would be. The opposite if you were going to post all of the problems. You have in another leak? Oh. Oh my God, that's right. Go ahead. No no no. I was just kind of kicking the can around because. Yeah, what you said I think kind of sparked that in me. The idea that the energy where it's coming from and then also manipulation because I guess with your presentation, your words, whatever your whatever your expression, whatever your expression is, whatever you're expressing, your presentation of what you're doing, that's if you're using it to influence, I guess, to lie to someone. I guess in the grandma analogy. Try that. We're kind of not. Lying, which was. Maybe the right thing to do. So not smoke that day. So you're not lying. There you go. That would be maybe taking the proper step further. Like the true able sacrifice. Maybe the Cain sacrifices for some teas and febreeze and febreeze. But the sacrifice would be like, hold on, I don't want to lie, but I do want to be respectful. I don't want to pretend like I'm smoking, so maybe I shouldn't smoke. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Because it's like. Kicking this can kicking this can be one. Of the, one of the dents I put in the can do a second ago in my mind was that it's not always because I pretty much do live by when you, when you say what's the energy behind it. Like what's the intention behind it? Because like if you like, you know, if I call this if I call, lady ma'am because I'm trying to be respectful, but then she thinks I'm calling her old. It's like, well, to some degree, it's like, I can't you can't keep doing things on accident that offend people because you were trying to be respectful. At some point, you're being like negligent of what would be appreciable, and then that would make it even though your intention was great, you're still like, not like I think you'd be generating less positive frequency by offending people, even if it's in the vein of good intention. So you need to have good intention and like have it go well, too. You know. Yeah. Good intention. And this is where it all comes from. Good intentions. Right. But I'm saying. As far as manipulation manipulation entering that territory. Right, right. But I guess the, the overarching thing was like let's say that I'm not trying to manipulate grandma, I'm trying to be respectful, but just because I'm trying to be respectful doesn't mean that I'm not manipulating her. We're going deep. If grandma knows you smoke it's all good though. Yeah I. Think manipulation. One problem with manipulation too is it's a little bit different. Like if I'm getting someone to do something I feel like that's more manipulation. And if I'm trying to get them to think something or feel something or do something, or maybe I want them to say something, maybe I want grandma to say something to mom later. So I need to not be high. So hopefully grandma says to mom, oh, you didn't smell like we didn't over there. So sober. It's like, I think that's kind of manipulation. Like, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, now we're talking about shit. And that's where the entire talking word. Yeah, bro words. We're talking vocabulary fucking sentences and shit. We got that. We got the. The noun and the. Verb begin there. Yeah. Subject and predicate. The manipulation comes in when you show it. Yeah, I guess. Because what's the intention. That's where I really want to. Yes. If your intention was to trick someone or to get them to do something, that's where I'm like, that's a clear cut. And you were in the wrong. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hitting your T's with febreeze and eyedrops because you know that you told grandma that you weren't going to be smoking anymore versus like, she doesn't really care, doesn't really matter. But like, out of respect and just out of the to maintain the fucking homeostasis of the home during Thanksgiving. Probably better that I don't smell like fucking Bob Marley. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right? But like, there's a scene in The Irishman where they're going to go hang out with the boss, and the guy's like, listen, think about the boss sucks. He doesn't like drinking. Not only does it not like drink, he doesn't like anybody drinking around him. You know, he doesn't like watermelon. And he puts a rum bottle in the watermelon, and they soak the watermelon with the rum, and then they go to the boss's house. And then at the after the done eating, and they're all hanging out. The the eating the watermelon. The watermelon. Yeah. Fucked up. And the boss is like, boy, you sure do like those watermelon. You always bring him over and he's like. Yeah, they're great. You also. And he's like, oh hell no. And he's like, but then it's funny because in that moment, like the new guy, he's like watching it and he's kind of nervous. He's like, wow, I would be, he's not really eating the watermelon. He's kind of chilling. But the other guy, he's real gregarious and he's laughing and he's kind of drunk and he's. Like, yeah, I know, you know what? I know? I was like that. He's like. You know, I just assume in that moment he's gonna get the shipping out of him. When I'm watching the movie, I'm like, this is going to end horribly. But in the movie, like, it's too much, right? Yeah. That's that's what I feel like. You tricked the boss. Yeah. Or then you're gonna, like, be bragging about it. Almost. Right. That's the that's that's ballsy. Unnecessarily so you're you're. He got away with it, right. You know what I'm saying? It would be, it would be funny if it were just. For the touchdown to. Score the fucking touchdown. Right. He's in a fumble right here. He's about to get stripped. Why is he hitting the griddy on his way to the end zone? Yeah. You know but the new guy just kind of like Laughs. And then he's like oh shit. This guy was right. But this guy is the guy, right. Well I mean the watermelon. But it was like that's a good example of what I think that's that's a little bit too far manipulation that's like you puts you premeditated. You know, you had a plan. It's like you can't really like once you have a plan. It's like and one of the therefore it like a dinner. A meeting a dinner meeting. Yeah. Yeah. So you can't go like two hours like fuck. Yeah. Right. Okay. Swing afterwards. Like, what the fuck? Right. Exactly. That's all too much. Yeah. So I think that there's like, man, there's, there's just a, there's just a truth. There's a truth somewhere involved, like where someone was trying to manipulate you or they were, you know, what's the. Also, people don't have time to. Think about this shit this in-depth. Like, it's like just a regular person. It's like a normal fucking, you know, oh, grandma is coming over. You know, like, I think. If that person said, oh. Let's go ahead and hide the wheat. Stuff, she's not gonna want to see that. Like, that's not a bad person. That's not that's good intention. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. God, it does get in the weeds. Though, because we do this. But, sweetie, why. Do you gotta hide from parents? That's not good. You hide shit from your kids to. To these guys. So as we we've. You gotta hide downwards. I don't think you should hide upwards much. Yeah. Demand. Shit. She shouldn't. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? You feel open enough to tell me anything? I saw a fucking. I saw a threads because I finally downloaded threads. I don't like that Instagram got me for another app. I don't even use it. Well, just sometimes when I'm scrolling past the. In this, I have one, but no reason. The sneak preview threads. Yeah. So enticing. They got some good hooks on it because. They are like great at it dude. Like the click through they get out of me is like it surprises me. Then they get to click there. There's like bringing you to a different. Happy like, oh damn it. Yeah. I didn't download it for a long time because I was like, you know, fuck that. Give me a click through to your own app. You made me, you make me. No one wants to feel like the guy got. Nobody wants to feel like the guy got. Okay. No. And they just want to turn me into a double user. So like, Instagram has a bunch of numbers of money because I give them numbers of money. They want to double that by making another app, just like we'll just times to our product. Yeah, on principle. I guess more more Twitter, Twitter, stylistically, more conversation kind of forum based I guess. People are you? It is Twitter in the sense you can still post videos and still post pictures. It's just Instagram, Twitter. It's just Instagram. So it's just trying to take Twitter's audience. Yes. Or some of them at least any of that. Like doing that. Again. Right. Like come on. Especially because Elon such a debatable character. If we could cancel Elon Musk and just give him Twitter on Instagram, she Facebook people would be happy about that. Yeah. Who knows. But I have on the back though threads. Threads I got. You. They got me bitches. I scroll down past the click through thread and I get to a point that says it's like just a girl posting and she says, oh no. My mom found out about my only fans and I was just like, yeah. Yo son. That's a horrifying that's a horrifying just even just page to read out of anybody's book. Oh, God, oh God above. Help us. Press above us. I suppose I'll come back. Please. Back now. We ready? Please. God, dude, what the fuck? Yeah. It's horrible. That's horrific. Horrific shit. Yeah. So you know that she was definitely lying about that, right? To her parents. But I don't think she should have been, you know. Probably not. Probably not. Why not? Oh, man. Where's that? Anyone? I guess you want them, you need the money or. It felt like the tweet was also this. Like, oh, I'm so cute and trendy. Oh, my parents found out about my only fans. Oh no. No, I was just like, oh, well, Or Just culturally you're just like. Shucks. Oh, it happened to me happen. It could happen to you like. Get the fuck out of here. This is promo for only fans. Go work at the fucking library. Yeah, it could have been. It could have been what I'm saying, but. Yeah. What? You know, the thing that I'm alluding to is that I don't want it to be this cultural thing. People are like, in college, everyone had all their friends for a little bit in college. Like going to become the new lesbian phase. Oh no. Only fanbase. So what I'm saying. Fuck. Dude. Yeah, that's fucking rough dog. What a crazy world we live in. We live in Satan's domain. How is that right? It's like, how is like that in porn? Like legal, you know what I'm saying? It's like legal. Just like, do that, like alcohol. So you just legal. Who the fuck. Is determining these legalities? You can tell me a little bit of someone that grows out of the ground is illegal. Someone's going to open my mind, open my glands. Fuck you dawg. This people like. People serving like 30 year sentences for selling weed. Pushing porn and fucking. I can't take a little taking a little bit of someone ups. It's crazy. That's crazy. Talk. It's crazy. Yeah. They say they say that if you want to get people to vote, you gotta come after weed. Important. Like, do you mean. Get them to vote? Oh, like as far as, like that. Have policies or issues regarding those subjects. Because like most, most politics don't actually interact with your life. Like we're talking about. Yeah, most. Of them you never see, you know, but if you come after weed or you come after porn, people will see that and then they'll be pissed off. Hey. What the. Fuck? Hey, pal, let's just roll a doobie. Yeah, I was born over here. Cock fucking me. The fuck? I was the same. You best believe I'll be voting this November. See me in a booth. But, yeah, that's like, saying, you know, for older people. That's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. There's like, in Satan's domain. Exactly. That's the thing. Because it's also like, who's making those decisions now? It's it's not the slow process of democracy making it difficult to get weed legal and porn legal. No, it's fucking people are like, these are the settings. This is perfect. We keep the the. Setting, we. Keep the dangerous alcohol legal, and we keep the safer, high, illegal. That way we push people towards being drunk all the time. Way better for what we want here. Keep the the stuff that would actually get you like healthier. Maybe mentally clarity let you work through some of your trauma your glands. Your glands. Right. Keep that shit illegal. That's fucking propaganda. Let's see as much as we can to make it seem like people die from that. And then, Yeah. Let's see. Porn. Well, we need the. We need the sex trade. You know, we need to be able to ship little kids across the world. And so we kind of need the porn industry to open up avenues and doors for those things to, to be allowed to happen so we can facilitate it. So definitely keep that legal all the way. It's crazy. That's crazy. I think that that's the conspiracy that that's the greatest conspiracy is that the Illuminati is real and that they pretty much dictate what the fuck that they, that they're the people that are in charge of Russia invading Ukraine. And then the same people that are in charge of Israel getting attacked are these like string pullers that are plotting global charting, and it's billionaires people. I mean, shit, dude. Trillionaires. Have a hard time keeping a couple thousand dollars in my bank account. These people. Have trillion. Billions of dollars. Dude with a T would. It's so much money. It's like, I don't even want to give my kids all this money. It's too much money. It's too much. Too much money. What do you do with too much money? So much power you need. Someone else has got too much money. And you guys talk about what you do with too much money. He's fucking squid game shit, bro. You know, I'm saying, like those guys in the towards the end when they're like the people who are watching the events go on and who are betting on the players or whatever. Yes. Like those guys. Yes. That shit, whoever, whoever dabbles into that or fits that characteristic or that type of trope of character of person. They're fucking out there, bruh. The fucking out there. Yes, they're out there. They don't know that. This right there reminds me of a movie. Have you seen, The Wave? I think I think I've told you about it before. No, I don't think I've seen the movie. Told me. About it. I want to see it on Hulu. I'm not sure where it's if it's still on Hulu, but I remember watching it a couple years ago just on a random whim. It has Donald Faison in it, and Justin Long. You haven't told me about this. He told me to watch it. You were like, hit me, hit me. It's fucking crazy, dawg. It's just you. Yeah, it's called The Wave. And that was like the one of our terminologies that we had to use with ourselves. Like developing our own kind of understanding what's happening here. And I figure out what the fuck's going on in life. Yeah, it's like I think I UAV or like the catch the wave and like a synchronicity start happening and whatever, you know, that was kind of our terminology. So then see, I seen the wave on this movie. I was like, gonna watch that shit. Yeah. And I don't know where. Didn't even like, plan on watching it. It was I think we watched it like in the morning. Like that. Happens. Movies present themselves. To, you know, out of nowhere, no one attention to watching it. No, no, no, you heard of it, then you fucking heard of this movie. I was like, oh, Justin, no, Donald Faison, no, those guys poop. There's this feeling of like, this is something I'd watch. Like, I, I click this, you know, like, that's that's the feeling you get when I read that. Read ahead in the script is like Justin. Clicks. It's like. It's like, okay. You go, I do the same thing because I'm watching. There's certain actors, certain tropes, certain themes. Oh, this is a fucking mob movie. With blah blah blah blah blah. Bang. Like there's like a yep, I'm watching that, you know. Yeah. The the commitment to it. Yeah. But this gets my attention and energy and focus. Right. And it's so crazy how that can happen. Like any. And it seems like these movies that are trying to talk to you will do that to you sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, I've had that happen. Right. Yeah. It's like I think we talked about that before. Were you watching Training Day or something? Yeah, like crazy time. Like just in the in the synchronicities of time, the days leading up to it, in the days following, which was like, what a crazy. And he watches this movie right there, you know, no intention of doing it. But it was the same fucking thing with this one. And it's super, super good. But I remember there's a part of it because we were talking about before that movie, are talking about the people who are like in Squid Games, like the people who are running the show and fucking doing the shit, have all the money in the world who are like, so bored to the point to where the only entertainment they can get is by watching these people, like, die more or less, or like, you know, saying do whatever the fuck they got to do and they're cruel, whatever the fuck. So those people, I think that place like how they get to that place, it comes from a place that's kind of alluded to in the The Wave movie. At one point, there's the Justin Long character, and I forget the the exact sequence of how it all happens, but he gets he takes some sort of drug or he gets some sort of crazy psychedelic experience through some sort of ingestion of some sort of drugs. I forget what happens exactly. I think either way I don't wanna spend too much time on it. But he gets he's in this altered state and he's like tripping the fuck out. He's like, go back to work. And his work. His job is he's not advertising. He's more like a parent, like in like the legality, like a legal team. He like, he works for like a legal team for this large corporation. And and they are currently trying to part of his job is to like try to mitigate loss and try to not pay out as many lawsuits as they can. Obviously try to save as much money as they can legally. And then they're working on one particular case in the movie where he's able to discredit it or like there's a lawsuit filed against them, but then he's able to get some insider information throughout the movie that is able to, like, cancel out his his or like the claim, like the lawsuit claim. So he's able to be like, oh no, we could just fucking instead of losing because I guess they were in the wrong for some reason. Whatever they did, some sort of procedure or whatever the company does, they were in the wrong. So then this guy rightfully sued them and probably was going to win. But then Justin Long comes across this information and he's like, okay, now he can't sue us because of this, this and this. Like we're going to drop the case, we're going to save $20 million or whatever the fuck. And then there's a point in the movie, like while he's disclosing this information to his legal team, a clock on the wall falls down. And like, just as it hits the ground, like he gets transported mentally into, like, he's still in the room in, like, the boardroom like this with, like, a big, large, large table. 4 or 5 people kind of sitting around talking about it, and then the clock hits and then he gets like teleported mentally to this fucking. He's still in the room, but everything is like, psychedelic, like when you're fucking tripping and everything is like, move in and everything is like, alive. And the colors are crazy. But then the people that he's sitting around the table with, like they're just normal people. But then when the clock hits the like, it's like they're the spiritual comes out, or like the abstract. Whatever's going on behind the scenes of this physical world, it's like they're they're whatever they're aligning with. It's like fucking malicious. And it's like a crazy, like money grubbing, like sex laundering or like very sexualized, kind of like evil sort of energy that there's like these, these actors. And now just playing in this crazy abstract world that he's living in or seeing through this crazy drug experience. But like, I think that place is like a real thing. I think that that movie was like, whoever wrote that movie and wrote that scene has, like, dabbled into the other realm and has seen and felt like the fucking because I've seen and felt it. And like the when we take the multi multi mega vitamins. Yeah. You feel that like we're in Satan's playground a little bit. Yeah. Was like, oh this place is crazy. This is a scary place. Yeah. It was a really scary place. Yeah I definitely feel that. It's a scary. Movie. It's a scary. Movie. Yeah I've. Heard it. Yeah. People are actively not trying to be good people for their own benefit, whether it be financial or fucking status or whatever. Yeah. But yeah, that movie, the way. That's the. Only mode you could gain status through. It's crazy to me. Lazy. It's it's insane. It's insane. But yeah, I highly recommend that movie. Especially that part. That part, which is like, fuck me up. I was like, whoa. I think whoever writes these movies, you know, the screenplays, all the people who are there, all this, everyone's just trying to get their message across. And then sometimes they're able to get their message across, portray it through actors and dramatization. And then like, I'm able to see that message. And I was like, whoa, I think I know what you're talking about. I think I know where you got that from. I think I know what you're thinking, like where you're beliefs are coming from. So I think whoever made that movie is like in the same boat of thinking that we are where they're like, whoever's in this like, shit, it's like this, this thing is coming out. This is like, we're getting feathers ruffled in the right direction of, like, truth and like the opening our eyes to the real levels and layers of the fucking evil that's like we're dealing with that is out there. People are fucking terrible. People are. Yeah, like sex trafficking and all that shit. All the Epstein is dirty shit. I don't think it's going to come because, I mean, we Epstein Island, we had the fucking. We had him in jail. We had the fucking the flight log with like, actors in it. Like it wasn't just like we had three people. It was like they had like we had like Tom Hanks and we had fucking, like, names and like, dozens, right? Yeah. I think it's like 30. And, whatever happen with that. Whatever happened, it happened with that. Oh, fucking Gangnam Style came out. Are we still doing anything with that? What happened with that? I can tell you. I. Haven't heard anything. I mean, other. Violence, dude. Like, it might have been years. I can't remember when that happened. That's what happens. You know what I'm saying? What is it, Henry? Henry. I've seen his name. Harry. Jeffrey. Jeffrey Epstein. Right. And some tripping. Okay, so I don't look that up. I don't like. What's the most recent one? Did that even happen? That happened eight years ago. Longer. I was gonna say three years ago, but I could be mistaken. Not I won't make it shorter. I really don't know. I, I was going to guess three Bay. It would make sense too, but yeah, he, he, like, quote unquote hung himself in jail. But it's like people don't really think he hung himself. I think they think he was killed. Yeah. Because he had too much. Okay. So that was that's where we're at with it. Yeah. He's dead. Yeah. He's dead. But they still should have released the flatline. Nothing came out after that. I would they I guess because he wasn't able to testify. It was leaked that like, Bill gates was on the flight log, that, Tom Hanks is on the fly. They said Bill gates. It was like billionaires. I think maybe some of the names had come out. What's going on here man? But yeah he's arrested five years ago 2019. But the push for accountability continues and that's as of July. So I guess they're still pushing this shit. But I guess he's dead I remember hearing that. Yeah. So now he's been he got arrested five years ago and we still ain't done really shit about any of the associated people with his ring or whatever the fuck there. Was never like, the, the, the scandal broke open or these people got brought to justice because of the Epstein scandal or like, here's the people were responsible, like, nothing like that. It was just like one person, him. And then he died. And then that was it. What the fuck? But yeah, I think I think it's those people. The sex and the sex, you know, what do you call it? The sex worker industry or the human trafficking industry? I think those ones are fucking. They do not want that shit coming to light, bro. They need that to be a rumor. But it got a little traction over social media in the last like two years. I think. We are. What do you mean? To be a rumor like that? Human trafficking is as large of a industry as it is that there's people abducting and, like, caging and trafficking people and kids to be like workers and migrant workers and sex slaves. Migrant workers isn't right. But I mean, like, doing like, like unpaid labor, like, you know, like, for, like, no money. Yeah. Stuff like that. I think that should happen. So I think that should happens. I think it's a million, maybe $1 billion industry probably, but. Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure, pastor, it talks about that or you talked about that last year, I think. Right. Maybe that's where my I say I'm not sure why I'm so confident that that's true. Maybe that's why. But yeah, that shit's crazy, bro. But it's like not, you know, this is this this video is not going to this clip right here of this talking about this subject isn't gonna get a ton of views. I don't think like the algorithm is going to play it up a whole lot. I think that like the the people that are pulling the strings want to keep it like underneath the surface level of society so that people don't go to school as little kids thinking, oh yeah, like 100 people get abducted today. It's like you just like, you know, people get kidnaped on like Criminal Minds. They usually find them, you know, but like, that's just scary, bro. That's fucking scary, bro. Yeah. This is really going on. Yeah. Really, really going on. It's fucked up. Yeah, it's it's really fucked up. There's like a fucking black web. So black, dark, dark internet. Dark web. Or whatever I get on the dark web. Of course you don't. It's like this whole thing you got to do. How do you even get there. Bro? I mean, I don't want to give instructions out to people. But, like. I was watching this TV show, whatever the fuck it was called Mr. Robot. Mr. Robot. And then it kind of like talks about it enough that I like, asked a couple questions to my dad, who's super tech savvy and you basically like, you know. Yeah, I was this one person if I were you that if I had to ask. Yeah, he definitely. Had a phone. A friend gun to your head. He could get you there, right? Yeah. But it's like you got to like, the thing about it that makes it difficult is like, you have to have a specific operating system. It's called, like, onion or something like that, where, like it allows you to connect to darkweb IP addresses. And then those IP addresses are like different than normal IP addresses, but they're also like completely custom. So you'd have to like get the IP address from someone, someone that knows. And like usually it's like a username type of thing. So they're going to like vet you to some degree. If you're like come to their site, they're going to be like, who do you know or like XYZ? Do you like to feel like they can trust you? I guess, and then like there's like once you're in and you know, the address of the website, then you like have this computer and you like switch off of windows and then you switch on to the onion. It's just like a black screen. And then you go to the IP address for the website, and then it pulls up like a custom made, basically website that's like I on, you know, on Mr. Robot, it showed like, you know, you can buy like fake money, you can buy drugs, you can buy prostitutes. It was saying you could like pay for like little kid prostitutes basically. And then it was also saying like, you could do murder for hire and stuff like that. And I've also seen other viral clips of like real life people talking about that kind of stuff, being on. The getting into it. Yeah, on the dark web, like people that just know how to do it and then they're being interviewed about it later, you know? Holy shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Dude. That reminds me of the podcast. I think I may have mentioned it before, but it's called Sword and Scale. I want to say listen to it. Fucking a long, long, long, long, long time ago back in college. And it was just talking about how the whole premise of the show is kind of like shedding light on some crazy, fucked up shit that people are doing more or less like the real or. The worst monsters are real. I think it's kind of like part of the intro type shit. But yeah, I remember them talking about the dark web and on one particular episode, and just like there was people that maybe he was interviewing people, or maybe he just had a the episode was about one particular thing, but then he had a segment in that episode talking about how he got some of this information. I guess maybe he knows people or got this somehow, but people who like part of their job is to search the dark web. I think the, like the federal government or whatever the FBI and motherfuckers have to have, have to have somebody on that to like, see where the where the fucked up shit is happening. Bonnie and Clyde. Yeah, right. Because if they can just figure out how to be smarter than the law, then they get away with crime forever. So law, like, has to do something about that. Constant cat and mouse are always chasing them. Yeah. So I'm sure I'm pretty sure that that may have been where I got this information, but I think you he had said that there might be some branch of the government or some branch of law enforcement that has a department that does that specifically, people search the dark web for the fucked up shit to see what's happened. And how can we stop this? Or is it happening? Whatever. Hopefully. Right. I would I would assume someone's out there trying to stop this bullshit. I think that it's I think it's in such a way that you can't like there's not like a registry of every website that exists out there. There's not like a list, you can go there. So it's not like they just like, oh yeah, there's like six really big dark websites. You know, they there probably are people that are like there's three really big ones that we know about that we can't like crack down on yet. And those are the three that we know about. But there's probably more. But yeah, it's it would be a difficult job is what I'm trying to say. It's not so cut and dry. Yeah. Because some people I think when I hear you say that, I was like, yeah, just go in there and stop. Was I mean. It's like they're good and and plus they know too, like once you start playing that game, you're, you're fucking you're going to go to jail forever, dude. Like you're never going to get out. You're all the way in. So you're really not trying to get caught at that point. And it's life and death. Like you're playing fucking millionaires, billionaires in China to help you figure out how to like, run your tech and stuff like that. For instance, like in this Mr. Robot, the main character ends up being approached by someone who knows that he's so technologically savvy and that person is actually there from the office, and he basically gets like him to help him fix his website, but he needs him to, like, not look at it basically. And then at some point, he's like having this internal conversation where he's like, knows that it's some fucked up shit that he's doing, and he's like, hold on another character. Or like, well, because the main character, the protagonist, the white dude, he Darryl's the bad guy. He's the one. He's the one that he's the one that has a website that needs the help. Yeah. And then he also had this whole side story going on where, like, his wife had died and, you know, or was dying, I think it was the, his wife was dying, I can't remember. But anyways, you know, he had to do it at some point for these reasons. And now he can't stop doing it. And then he see, he, like, logs into it and looks at it and it's like all this shit and he's like, oh my God, like, fuck this dude. Like, I'm not doing this. And then he's like, going to report him basically to the FBI because that's what he did for like in his free time. And Mr. Robot, he just found these dark web places and reported them to the FBI because he was technologically savvy enough to actually find them. Yeah. It's just like the it's like the very first part of, like the pilot. Yeah. He's like fucking some guy over. Yeah. That's basically what he would do is find people that were like lying or hurting people or doing really fucked up shit and then like, go through their computer and find all the proof that they thought was hidden and then like, show it to people. So then, you know, this is this guy's fucking ethos. So he's like, fuck it. I'll just, I don't care. Like, and they're like, beating them. They're torturing him. They're Jesse Pinkman in this guy, making him work, fix all their shit, whatever. And then at the end, after he reports them, he's like, I don't care. You can fucking kill me, dude. Like, we're going down already. They're on their way. They're going to be here in 30s like you fucked. And then there was just like, no. Good man. Sorry about it. This is this has been fucked up for a long time. It's like I miss my wife. I'm happy it's over. Like, it was weird because it's like this guy who was, like, running and operating the site, like, beat the shit out of our protagonist and forcing him to do all this shit. Like, when it came down to, it was just like, yeah, that shit was fucked up, man. Yeah, I don't even want to be doing that. You know, deep down he fucking no, man. What? What is that thing? What is that thing that will get you to do all the shit and then just be like, later. Be like, yeah, this show's fucked up. It's crazy, bro. Animated by what you think you need to be doing, justifying it. I guess. Once you're into the you. And then you're into fucking deep, that's a real problem. Yeah, you make it a necessity and then you. There's a necessity. It has to keep doing this. I have to keep doing this. This is the only, only option is going deeper and deeper. That's fucked up. It's fucked up. Darrell. Fucked up, bro. Fucked up. Here's a good character to play that guy though, because I think they wanted you to not hate him or to feel this like he's a person, part of him. Like they would play chess together and stuff and you kind of wanted to like the guy but couldn't because he's fucking facilitating human trafficking. It's crazy. Oh man. So yeah, that story, it's out there, bro. Just out there, man. Shut out. Do you think anything, anything is going to come about like the same way that we were kind of talking about how it's been five plus years for this. I've seen stuff and I don't think there's been a whole lot of ground covered or like a whole lot of retribution or a whole lot of anything going on with any of the names on the list, right? Right. Not to my knowledge. I then again, I'm very uninformed. So that's I've seen a lot. Sure, but I'm sure I would have seen it or heard about it. There's some big shit that happen, you know, whatever, because the big names are on that list. But like, do you think anything, I guess, was going to come out of this, this did he like a similar trickle down effect where it's like this one. So Epstein was the main guy. He got fucking. But now there is this main guy in the spotlight of all this bullshit, terrible accusations. Do you think anything's going to come off of that or any other, any other lists or names or whatever? Because I'm, I think I've heard that's like a conversation piece going around. Absolutely not. You think I think they just going to get killed. You think so? Yeah. Probably. Right. That's what I think he'll get. Epstein. It's too big of a scandal. Don't get. Upset. What are you. Going to tell us? Beyoncé is behind sex trafficking. You can't. Come on, tell us that. Really? You think Americans gonna handle that? Well, like Jesus Christ, what was Michael Jackson doing with those kids, bro? I'm just like, bro, Lord. Knows what. I'm saying, bro. It's like when it's. It's not that it's been right there, but it's just like, you can't keep having Michael Jackson have kids at his house and Pizzagate and Epstein and Daddy, and you just can't keep. I mean, it's just like at one point are you going to be like, okay, I know you're cheating on me. To your. Partner. You need you. Need to see her fucked the guy right in front of you like, do you need to come home and, like, have it be right in your face or like, at some point you're like, okay, like, I know what's going on here, you know what I'm saying? That's how I feel with like, I don't think they're going to come out and say it because because I think there's a bunch of guys, a bunch of millionaires that are like in suits that are saying, like, what are they gonna do about it? What are they gonna do about it? Give him, we'll make weekly lunch. Okay? Fuck you. We'll make we go for 15 years, and then we'll make it illegal. We'll have some people die. We'll say terrible for you. We'll have some studies come out and then fucking we'll be on to some other shit because people fucking forget, bro. People fucking forget. Yeah. Who? Jimmy Hoffa's know. People fucking forget. It sounds really familiar. Yeah. So I should give you the opportunity to answer. But that one trips me out because I'm just like, I had no clue who Jimmy Hoffa was other than Big Sean says, you disappear in the day like you, Jimmy Hoffa. But no, Jimmy Hoffa was like this person that, you know, the Teamsters, you know, like. So the Teamsters were like, like a headquarters for unionizing industries. So like if you wanted to have a union for like, they were mostly like truck, I think it was specifically trucking unions. So it was like if you were in the state of new Jersey specifically in this one city in new Jersey, and you were a trucker then, like, you could be a part of that township if that town had a township. And then that would be like, you know, township. 237 was the one in Newark, new Jersey. So, like, if you were living in Newark, new Jersey, and a truck driver, you would sign up and you'd be a part of that club. It was basically like a social club. And they handled like your money and your insurance and your it was like taking the idea of being like a 1099 trucker where they just, like, hire you individually and then giving yourself like a corporation that you work for by signing up. But they also gave like, like insurance and retirement plans and pensions. So like you would give, you know. Like percentage of your. Check and then they would match the percentage into your for one care or whatever it was. And so but because they were doing that and because they had so many people signed up, they had like, like $1 million, multimillion dollar pension fund. But then because they weren't controlled by a government agency, they were just like their own. This was like Jimmy Hoffa's business kind of he, like, could give out loans on the pension with no there was no check. There was no balance. So anybody that he wanted to like, if somebody wanted to build a hotel and they needed $2 million and he had $8 million in the fund, he could give them the $2 million, like 20% interest and just make money like that. And that's really what he was doing. But he was selling it as like he's a representative for the truckers and that he's like the working man's people. If you got your groceries from a store, they came from a truck. If you got milk at your house today, that milk came from a truck that came from a truck. It's like it's a quotes. Yeah. I mean, like the quotes from the movie. Okay. So like, I don't know if. That was a movie about it. Yeah. Or The Irishman. Oh okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. He, Jimmy Hoffa is like a main character, and it kind of goes into, like, a historical. Oh, shit. Okay, cool. Understanding of who he was and stuff like that. So I didn't know what the fuck it was. I didn't know, you know, this isn't like. I'm not like, yeah, you guys don't know. I'm like, we don't know. You know what I'm saying? We don't fucking know that shit. We don't know shit, y'all. Yeah. No, seriously. So like. Yeah. So this guy$8 million or so fund. But also he's, like, funding the mobsters who were building Las Vegas at the time. So a lot of the casinos got loans from Jimmy Hoffa with the Teamsters to build, like Caesars Palace, And so, like, one problem is, is that the government is like, yo, you got like, the mobsters who we don't like. Come on now. Organized crime. Having their own bank, basically. Yeah, from the Teamsters. And this shit is like, we can't regulate it, so this shit is, like, fucked. But they were just having a field day because they couldn't. They kept indict. They indicted Jimmy Hoffa like, 12 times and took them to court every time. But they couldn't fucking pin him down because, like, loaning money wasn't illegal. There was no regulation on it. So you kept trying to get him for other shit, but they couldn't really get him on the other shit. But he was hanging out with mobsters. And I mean, they had I mean, the whole movies. The Irishman, he's like a hitman. That's his job. So he just, like, keeps getting passed around to the mob and to these different people for these different, like when they need a hitman around. And so like, yeah, they're doing illegal shit, you know what I'm saying? They, they should be brought down, especially the mob. They're making all their money from illegal activities, you know. Yeah. But regardless, that's what ended up happening. Probably because it's like a fiction movie is that, Jimmy Hoffa got taken. He ended up getting sent to prison eventually. And then while he was in prison, they elected someone else to be the president of the Teamsters. So someone else was now in charge of the fund. And then when he, Jimmy Hoffa came back, the new guy that was in charge gave much better loans to the mobsters and many more loans to the mobsters. Jimmy was like a little more purse on the strings, strings on the purse, tight. And then the mob was like, yo, Jimmy, we like down for that shit, bro. And we don't really want to let you be the president again because we don't like how you were giving loans. But then Jimmy Hoffa still had connections with the other people working for the Teamsters, like the administrative board, the board of directors. And so he was getting them to block some of the loans because he was kind of like planning, like, okay, when I come back in office, you can't I don't want that loan out. I don't want don't do that shit. I'll be back in like six months. I'm running again. All the shit. But. And Jimmy Hoffa might have won the presidency again, but he needed to go ask people for support. And the people that he needed to ask for support were people that he'd gotten into verbal arguments with. And he just couldn't do it. He couldn't say he was sorry. He kept being like, the. Fuck you prick is like just blowing. Up with them at the table, you know? No. It's that one actor who's always like. And I never fucking saw it. It's a. It's an all the mob movies. Like Joe Pesci. Joe, it's. Joe Pesci that his name. Is like, who's the coach on, the football movie Any Given Sunday? I think I've seen that one. Oh, man. He's in all the movies. Anyways. He's a great he's a great screamer. Great scream, great scream, great scream on him. Yeah. He's screaming his ass off at, all these people that he can't. All he has to do is say, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that shit to you. Would you please support me? And they would have, like, given him his support. He would've got the presidency back. But then. So he can't. He keeps blocking the loans for the mobsters, and he keeps getting into verbal, disrespectful disagreements with everyone that he needs support from. And then the mob ends up the, they say, the Jewish mob, because it was like the Italian mob and the Jewish mob were both working with the Teamsters. They're all mingle and integrated, especially with Cuba and stuff, because they were making a ton of money and they were making a ton of money in Havana because they're building casinos in Havana. And then it turns out that, like JFK's family, the Kennedys, they were really associated with, like, the Jew mob and the Italian mob. And because they made all their money bootlegging liquor when prohibition was going on. But then there were so powerful in America that they were able to get the the main bootlegger was the dad, but JFK was the son. So they were able to get the son elected through the dad's connections. But then that's why they went after Castro in Cuba, was because they wanted to open Cuba back up and open Havana, back up to American business. But Castro had blocked off Havana from all these casinos getting built. So they were like, well, we'll get JFK elected. But then the Italians were like, we'll get JFK elected, but then we need JFK to kill Castro. And then that kind of balances all of that out for us. And then when the Bay of pigs got squashed, like they fucked it up, they didn't like they invaded with like 2000 people and then they didn't have any air support and they all died. And Castro still lived then that was JFK. Like tried. And then after that, JFK, his dad died and that was the person that was like kind of controlling JFK. So because he no longer had his dad's influence telling him, like, hey, you need to get rid of Castro. You need to remember who the fuck you are because like, it's not good. Then the Italians couldn't get JFK to play ball without the dad in the picture anymore. Bang. That's how JFK dies. And then the, the. In the movie talks about that. Or just like alluding to. It now that talks about it. Shit. Yeah. And then because like they show it, then the JFK dies and they're like. Did I do that, motherfucker? Why didn't I like they're all like, that was we knew that was going to happen. Or like we thought that that because it's always like, hey, if you don't fucking, we're going to fucking. And then if they don't do the thing and then he dies, they're like, oh my God, we knew it, you know what I'm saying? We told him. Same thing with Jimmy Hoffa, though. He keeps blocking the loans. The Italians don't like it because they want the better loans for the casinos. And then he loses all his support within the teamster community. So he doesn't have anybody watching his back anymore. And then, that's when the, the in that movie, it's someone in the Jewish mob says to puts the green light on them. And it's the main character, the protagonist Irishman in the movie. And then it's actually Jimmy Hoffa is like one of his best friends, but he's in too deep. He can't say no. Like he lit it tries and they're like, he's got to go. Like you're watching him fuck up every opportunity. All he has to do is say, I'm sorry. And he can't say I'm sorry. What do you want us to do? You gotta kill this guy. So that's how they say how Jimmy Hoffa disappeared in that movie. Wow. Okay, all of that shit is like, you got to go watch The Irishman and really be fucking paying attention, bro, to catch that shit. It's like a four hour movie. Yeah, it's way too long. Three and a half. Seriously, it is long, bro. That's. God, that was like a fuckin turning point in our history. It was like World War two, the Cold War with Cuba, JFK getting assassinated. And then it was like Bill Clinton, you know? So like, it's just crazy because it's like. That's who that's who was running America. I don't think much has changed. The mobs. Yeah. The mob. Yeah. It's crazy dude. Yeah. There's a point where we needed money for a war. I can remember World war was. And we borrowed it from, I think. I mean, World War two, and. Oh, I couldn't even. I don't know, but remember, there's a point where the American government had to borrow money from the mob because they had more money than we did. We need more money. That shit's like integrated into our culture. It is there. You don't think it's there, but it's there. Yeah, right. I think that's a line that, Ozarks, I'm pretty sure, is that think with the kids says it's like in the whenever the market crashed in 2008, the housing market crashed. It's like what the I think he said, Jonah the the kid of the main, money ladder. If you never seen it, it's fucking fantastic. You got to watch that show. It's amazing. But yeah, I think he says to his teacher one time, I forget why he even talks to a teacher in this way or what? What brings it about? But I think the line was just saying something that like, whenever the housing market crash in 2008, that like mob money was like, what kept the fucking economy like, okay, like not crashing completely, completely, completely. Right there it is saying yes. That's, that's I think that's what I'm referencing right now. Hit land on some money. Yeah I think I money dude. So golly some, some. Who knows what's gonna come from this shit. Yeah I don't know. These are also the things I think about having a kid too, because I'm just like, how do you even tell them that shit? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. How do I even do even want to? I don't know. Not really. I don't think I want to tell. It's all to look, the little thing about any of that, like, literally not in depth. Whenever they get older, maybe a little more of a conversation. I think it's just like those times when you felt like you needed to make a Facebook post. Maybe you should just go on a rant in the car with everybody in there. You just kind of fucking be like, hey man, I don't like. I think I'm trying to get how my dad would do it because my dad would engage with me a lot and he would be like, I think you would ask questions. He'd be like, what do you think about this? Or like, what do you think about that? And I would like, say what I think. And then you'd be like, okay, well that's right or that's wrong because this is this, is this and this. And then kind of like laid out and then like we'd have a conversation about it, you know, and I think I was receptive to like, this idea that he's trying to teach me how to think about things. Sometimes I'd be like, okay, I'm wrong about that. Okay, that makes sense. I didn't know that, you know, but I don't know if every kid's is receptive to that. Probably not. Probably not. It depends. It depends on the relationship. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, dude. Yeah, that's crazy to think about having to having to navigate all this because, yeah, the people. Are just wing. It's how are we thinking about all. This shit, bro? And it's like about or like doing research about fucking the diddy in the Epstein's in the fucking inter interconnectedness between the fucking government in the mob or whatever the Illuminati, whatever's going on, we don't really have time to dive fully, fully into it because like, we got fucking to go buy bread and milk and eggs and gas and you got to live your life. Some people like us, have more time and more freedom if they have whatever situation, whatever life situation is brought to them, maybe the more time to dive into these conspiracy theories and shit, or to dive in to try to find facts and information. Yeah, but I for the most part, people ain't got time to be doing this shit. And people's and I think people's in podcasts. I think that's what even the podcasters, they got the information from a. Podcast. Probably more like. I think that's how a lot of people are doing it nowadays because that, like you said, what are your time. Right? Driving to work, driving home, going to the grocery store, taking care of the house and you go to eat and try to work out and try to take care of yourself in that time. There's not a lot of time in the fucking day. Yeah. So I'm going to follow. Journalists. And they have these journalist break stories to them that that's what Joe Rogan does for as while journalists. But you see that tweet about that thing. Hold on pull that up you know. Yeah. Yeah. Like he knows, a good avenue or a couple different avenues to go down to finally independent journalism and people just trying to actually do what the fuck we're trying to do here as far as bring information and truth to the light and try to spread good ideas and create legitimate discussions. Yeah. It's like, all right, this is what's happening here. Here are the facts. Instead of trying to paint a different story, I know Joe's mentioned that for sure. He's like, I can name a single person that he's named by. No, he's named at least by two. Or three different. Matt Taibbi, I think is one for sure. There we go. Yeah, I love his shit. I love what he's doing with the journaling community. Yeah, or whatever he says about those people. Right. But that's what's up. Keep that shit going for sure. Keep it rocking. Yeah, yeah. Are we. Ready? Are we ready? What do you think? What happens? What? I'm nervous now. As a species, as a human race. Aliens, as a. Generation. Of people. In our current day, are we ready as a unit, a global unit of people to be open to the idea that potentially there is some sort of an Illuminati esque group of people, but maybe even that's maybe even not that that's a that's a big step. Maybe it's like a baby step, I think. I think we might be ready as well. But do you think we're ready for that baby step to maybe be like, okay, this shit is going down. It's like, okay, let's let's say hypothetically, we wake up tomorrow, go on a Twitter or go on Instagram. Breaking news. I'm not sure what the news source would be. That would be legitimate, a legitimate news source that you trust. It's like, oh yeah, the fucking Diddy has a whole confession. These people are in on it is fucking. I don't even know who to say. Let's say, let's say it's like fucking Barack Obama, fucking Jay-Z. And like LeBron and Kevin Hart. And white. Guy and fuck like, say, Tom Hanks. Yeah, there we go. Tom Hanks and Leonardo DiCaprio. There we go. It's like we have confirmation. Confirmation that these six people were heavily involved in this sex trafficking ring. We have all the evidence and all the shit. How do you think what would happen, what would happen to us as a people? Bruh LeBron James tough to swallow. That's tough to swallow I mean I think about those names exactly. But you know what I'm saying. Like that caliber of person like let's just keep. It I mean LeBron obviously not. Hopefully not. Hopefully not I don't fucking know. Come on the pot. Talk to us. You cool. I. Don't know the Illuminati. It's weird I'm sure you've seen that video. But other than that I mean but I like LeBron as an example okay. Because that would be a fucking culture shock to the to the core of humanity. Yeah. We'd all be like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. How do we handle that? What do we handle it? I think. It would be tough. There'd be so. Many questions because you'd be like, well, sports. Movies, politics. Restaurants. You'd be like, well, all these industries. It's not just like one thing. It's like all. Over the place. What the fuck? And then I would kind of like, I'd be like, what's going on there? How are they all? How's it so widespread? And it'd be like, well, these guys are plugs that lead up to a bigger, a bigger outlet of power. And that bigger outlet of power would be the the next step past that, the bigger step. Yeah. And that there is like organized versions of people that, you know, the black market for, not for effort. But organized crime has been around forever. Yeah. Like, you know, you find like the Clintons like if you were to find out everything that the Clintons ever did, ever. Like there's a lot of allegations that they were like selling coke in the town in Tennessee where they those kids got killed. Go look at it. It's a whole fucking thing. And there's I'm sure there's a lot of Clinton shit. We can look up and find some crazy Clinton conspiracy. Yeah, but if you don't want to go on the stretch to say that the Clintons stealing coke and killing kids, the Kennedys definitely bootleg liquors, like, that's not a fucking secret, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, outlaw the president. How the fuck? It's like we've got, like, all these rules. Like, you got to be 35. You need to be born in America. How about like, fucking. You know, you got a good track record? Yeah. Like you did good with your life. So far. No ties to any illegal corporations or. Activities, right? It's like we just. There's something going on there, you know what I'm saying? There's something going on there. What was your initial question? How would we handle it. Yeah. Well what do you think the general state of people would be like in the workplace or just like because we still have to go to fucking work, you know, so we still got to continue on with everyday normal activities, whatever you had planned to that next day or like tomorrow in this hypothetical, whatever you got going on tomorrow is still going on. But it's just that everyone's newsfeed on all platforms across the fucking world are all talking about this crazy uncovering of high level, high profile celebrities, politicians, athletes. It's like the fucking iceberg is being exposed. Like we got the first level, the big fucking names that's going down. How would we. What do you think of the the people react or how would they. What's I'm trying to be like, trying to give you a good answer. Right. So I'm trying to think like, pragmatically or like, what could people do. Right. Like, how could people like, I think gun sales would go up a lot. Okay. So people feel like they're doing something. About a gun about to go, oh no, I fucking I needed it, I think, try. To dope my kids. I don't. Trust nobody. Exactly right. I probably the first thing I mean that that is the first thing that I. Would do if. I think large scale denies. Well, are you in denial? But yeah, I guess that that would be that that. Immediate denial would be met with or I guess the immediate denial would be just squashed because I think, yeah, we're already in a state of like, hesitant non-acceptance, which I, I maybe. I don't think so. At least some people, some people I fall in. Oh yeah. This is a fucking full fucking get them all. Get them all. They're all they're all bad people. And then some people have no completely oblivious. And some people might be teetering on the fence with the idea. But then we have all this evidence and then it comes out. There would be maybe an initial denial, but then it would be fucking. I think that there's a term for it. It's, I remember hearing this term whenever I watched, it was like a YouTube document or YouTube series, like a ten part series talking about the fucked up ness of child sex trafficking and like, the government and just kind of fucked up shit. Things got fuckable. Some shit like that. But there's a word. Cognitive dissonance. Yeah, I think is what it's called, where you say, like, you can't even. You don't know, you can't, you can't make sense of what's happening. Yeah. You don't wrap your mind around. You can't. Yeah. You literally are incapable of, like, accepting what is here's like, what the fuck is happening? I think we'd be in a state of that. A lot of people. Yeah. There's that like was that was also monster answer. Like start your own country like you're fucking. I was the Satan. Go find me in Texas. Yeah, I think there would be a lot of people moving in Texas. You think so? Yeah. Like people moving to. I think it would start with Texas because that's the easy answer. But then it would more generalize to people moving towards like, large areas of land like Montana, like what Kanye West did, you know, like get down some. Space and get a plot of. Land. Yeah. Bunkering down, maybe a little commune. Yeah. But then ultimately, dude, I'm telling you, like. This time marches on. People fucking forget. Dude, we. Gotta keep going. You gotta keep. We gotta keep going. Ten years passes, 20 years passes. Six year olds die. You know, 30 year olds become 50 year olds. Kids listen to 50 year olds like kids don't know any of that shit. And then you can tell them paint and whatever picture you want of America, you can make whatever movies you want, make it look any way you want. You know, I think that that's the tick. Tick. The TikTok has been this. The TikTok is fucking up the soil. It's like we're not growing fucking like I think that the young people have a very the young people have sometimes such a dramatically skewed perception of what's going on compared to what I think like 30 to like 60 year olds have that. I'm like, how the fuck is it so skewed? How the fuck? Like, that's crazy. And then I think it's because it's it's something to do with Tick Tock. It's something to do with these. Like, I don't know exactly because I'm not on TikTok like that. So I don't see all like the political stuff that people see or like the society stuff that people see or the like virtue signaling or the there was just a lot of social engineering that happened, like maybe within the last five years, or it just felt like they really were trying to manipulate us into feeling bad for groups of people and for like, really going out of our way for gay people's rights, like people's rights, trans rights. And not that those people shouldn't have rights, they shouldn't have support. But it was just this real, like outward, like push to try to make me be more empathetic for those things which like, I'm like open and willing to seeing if I need to be more empathetic to those things. I'm all for. Sure. Let me hear your case. Like, but I think that, like, you know, there's some stuff where they, they want a little bit too far, like the transgender stuff in sports, like like the lady on Joe Rogan who won first place. She tied first place. Like that happening in swimming is fucking rare. They go to like, the 100th of the second. Yeah. And she tied for first place. With. With. Leah Thomas. Yeah. That's the lady that I'm talking about, right? Yeah. She tied with a swimmer who was formerly a man had. That's Leah Thomas. Okay. Yes. Yeah. I know you're talking like Pastor Ed had her on their podcast or whatever. The lady I'm talking about. Yeah. The tide. Yeah. Passed out was on her. Wow. That's crazy on his. That's crazy. Yeah. Damn, dude. That's nuts. That's right. Yeah, I, I watched a Joe Rogan episode. It was on like 2 or 3 months ago. So that's all I heard about this. But yeah, she tied the you know, I don't know the exact terminology, but the former gentleman who had Lee Thomas, Lee Thomas, there we go. Leah Thomas, who? Oh, well, he did the thing while he. Thomas is like, she. What's the word? Transferred to? It's not even a. Formal transfer request. Transition. Transition. She'd been swimming before with the men. Yes. Very average. Not doing. Well. I think it was like ranked 400 something for 460 in the. In the nation, right? Yeah. Four plus. Super. I mean, I'm not want to be rude here. I was an average athlete among college competitors out of been the same kind of ranking pool, if not worse, but then transitioned and then was like dominating. Number one. Far away number one. And then this young woman, well, I'm talking about she competed at the state national highest level competition and tied for first place. Crazy, right. And then they had one trophy and then they like kind of like told her like, hey, we're going to give this trophy to Leah Thomas because it's kind of incredible that she's here and that she won and her story. And it's just the biggest thing in the country right now. So we're going to send you home, but we're going to get something to you. And they didn't even send her a trophy from what I heard. Like she never got like a equivalent trophy. It was like, some kind of award or plaque or representation of state championship or whatever. National championship. How crazy is that? Hold on here. Oh, wow. Hold on. This is just like God working. It's like in the story that is life of the story of stories. It's like we're all we all have our own stories and the fucking big book of stories. And like a test, this particular point in the story, it's like a social teetering. It's like what? What's happening here? And then this was like an instance where the story of life was able to tell us, oh, we're leaving this way now because it was literally down to the fucking 100th of a second. How what are the odds of that? That's one of the fucking hearts. That's God. It's like it's like think. Like at the same time. Like it's hard to do that with yourself. Probably losing the touch of your. Fingers at the same time at the exact same millisecond. Right? Yeah. With like with your own hand. It wouldn't have. Even when you think it's happening, it's really not happy. Probably happened like half the time if you like tried as hard as you could to like, touch at the same time, you're like, if I. Should make a game decision making up, dude. Yeah. It's like, what are the. Odds of that? It's like so fucking low. And then for the situation to become a thing because of that crazy low probability thing happening, and then it was just like, oh yeah, society, we're living this way now. This is this is what's happening here. It's like, what the fuck? When did this happen? What the hell was that? Even the how I how can we like what can we be, like, share the fucking trophy or, like, both, get a picture with it or whatever, or, like, shakes the picture. I get a picture of the Farley or Thomas. I'd be like, I don't want it. Let's, let's let's, If you're not going to get one, I don't want one, you know? And if you want to take it, that'd be kind of weird, but I get it. But let's just both not have one. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, right. Wouldn't you not want to do that with that feel wrong. Yeah. I would think so. But then again that is the type of person that would I don't know I don't know I was about to go down accusation lane, hypothetical lane. Putting it putting I know. Oh it's so tough. Trying to find the, the origin of I was trying to I guess I was trying to input my own theory of what their intent was behind the transition. Sometimes it seems like the people that are in these situations are, you know. The type that wouldn't share the trophy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There you go. We could we could make it a prettier statement. But that's pretty much what I'm trying to get to. Is it? It seems like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck, bro? So that was just they. Got other stuff going on. Crazy life and I don't know. And I'm. And I definitely. And you know, there's people in Joe Rogan definitely says all the time that there's definitely like some people that it definitely feels like were a woman born into a man's body and not like that person, genuinely like transitioning helped him a lot, you know what I'm saying? But I also think that there some cases where it says some other stuff going on, you know. And then so then bring it back to later. Thomas I just want to go something, I just want to unravel that string sometimes because we're getting so socially. Well to take it back even further is that we're getting so socially engineered. And it feels like that Leah Thomas was like, it gave me something to point to, like you said, like right here, this is where I'm like, I feel like we're something. Is this a shift happened or we like, I felt all this influence happening and then now we get to this moment and this thing happened, and it just feels like we're shifting and I'm being shifted. And I'm not sure that I like that. Yeah, it was it was that before or after? What is that lady's name? The Kardashians father. Yeah. Here we go. Jenner. Caitlyn Jenner. Right. Bruce Jenner. Yes. What's your name now? Caitlyn. Caitlyn. There it is. Yeah. What's up? Before or after Caitlyn Jenner? Way after. Way after. Yeah. Okay. Kate has been Caitlyn for 3 or 4 years now. Longer than that. Right. That's been like 8 to 10. I don't want to say. Yeah. I was like in college, right? Yeah. Yeah, man. I go where the fuck me is. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. So she transitioned many a year ago and then I didn't she win like woman of the year. Yeah. Like the same year. Yeah I think that might have been another like I'm pushing you this way. We're pushing you. This was just kind of a head scratcher. You thought maybe rolling Stone or whoever was was making a. Statement trying to be trendy. They're trying to push us. This year, but this is this, like, see, the. More times you. How many times you going to push? It's like kicking my shoe, you know, kick it once. Maybe you were just walking. That happens. Yeah. What can you imagine. Come up with this. Yeah. My foot a little bit. That perception totally. Did I get it. But, like. 3 or 4 times, you're like, dude, there's something going on here, you know? What the fuck, bro? You're drunk. Like, exactly. You're stepping on America. Are you drunk? Like, what's happening is weird. That's what I felt about. Unless it's on purpose. If it's on purpose, it's really, really weird, right? And not that Caitlyn Jenner winning woman of the year or Leah Thomas taking the trophy unnecessarily kicks in the shoe. I don't want to. I'm not trying to. There's some women that might feel like that and I can't fucking. I'm not gonna tell them how to feel, you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying I'm not claiming that. But it just. Yeah, there's there's a lot of social engineering going on like a ton of it. And it's kind of like weird. And it's all hypothetical. SouthPark was making fun of it all. But the whole way there though. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like it's definitely I guess social engineering is a strong word, but I definitely think we've been, you know, some people might phrase it more like there's been a civil rights movement, postmodernist civil rights movement of the 20s for equality. Yeah. For equality and, and, empathy. What's the other word? Not equality, but, the equity, but, Oh. So we're looking for equal opportunity. Opportunity? It's like equality, but it's a different cool. No. It's like, come on. It's okay. Understanding. It's like, just one with this. What's the fucking word? It's the fucking, tolerance. There we go. Tolerance. I have all the tolerance in the world. Jesus. Right there. I didn't it didn't make for great podcast material. But I also think that's hilarious when we can't think of what we're saying. I heard Joe Rogan talking about he's, like, the worst part is when you forgot what you were saying. It's like, Well, What? What the fuck were we talking? I was like, and you just need a little threat. You just need, like, a train's trains. And then we were running down the running back. Is this, like, crazy? How our memory works is like, well, just one thing. We'll set it off and bring it right back to our whole. And then I stopped and I'm like, Joe Rogan is just talking about forgetting things on his podcast. The worst is when. We forget stuff. Right? That's it sucks. I was like, don't be afraid of anything. Feels terrible on this show. Fucking. You can just talk about it. Oh, chilling man. Yeah. So, who knows? Who knows? Yeah, but I think you're kind of hitting it on the head. It's like with, could be a postmodernist, like equality, tolerance, empathy, equality. We're all chill here. We're all good here. We're all chill. You're good the way you are. We love you. That's what TikTok's falling for. That's what the colleges are calling for. But there's just stuff going on, man. There's just stuff going on, man. Like Elon Musk's kid. Have you heard. This? No. What happened? Elon Musk's child, he has like 11, right I don't know. Yeah I want to say he's like 11 kids. He's going off. He's just popping them out. He's like popping them out. But he's putting them in. Someone else's mouth. Apparently it's some representation of how he believes that there's a real population problem in the next 20 years, but that's a whole different topic. But with Elon Musk, I don't know this might have been an AI generated video, I'm not sure. Apparently there's a Lex Friedman interview where they talk about it. Okay, but I guess one of his children got enough. I'm wrong. I'm sorry. I'll make it quick. We can find. It. Allegedly, one of his kids, was, you know, through a counselor, someone at school communicated that they're having some, like, body dysmorphia. Some, gender is morphia. Okay. And, basically, through counseling with this kid, the kid ended up signing paperwork to have themselves. Did the thing be transitioned? Yeah, but also signed paperwork to exclude. The. Parent, the parent from having any kind of. That was a thing that's been going on right, right over the last like five. No, not less than that a couple of years. Right. Yeah. And apparently even happened to like Elon Musk. No fucking way. This recently. Yeah I because I was so mind blown that I didn't know anything about it. I told myself like, yeah, I got to go watch that livestream interview because I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. That's crazy. And I never did. Okay. So that's why I'm, like, hesitant to bring it up. But but allegedly. But that does happen to other people if not to Elon Musk. We've been hearing stories about that. And that's fuckin super scary, bro. That's crazy bro. It's crazy. That's insane. That's insane. That's insane. As the kid. Let's do like let's see some like. Google or like Google give it a, like goo goo like easy goo. Trust chat even more with this Google. Right? Yeah. Because that's absolutely insanity because I know he has 11, 11 children, ballpark plus or minus a couple. I'm sure somewhere in that area. So I'm sure they range in ages. I wonder I because I've, I wonder what age his child is because I've heard that there's a I forget I'm not sure what the age threshold threshold is, but there is I remember Jordan Peterson talking about it, I think, on Joe Rogan where they're saying that that's that's happening to where the child can go to the counselor and then to sign something that it's like an NDA or not NDA, but does the same sort of affect it to where the counselor doesn't have to tell the parents or the legal guardian what's going on, they're just going to get him on this medication or not even medication like these. Blockers or whatever, these hormone replacement therapy kind of shit. And this wean them into their own thing that they want to do. And it's like 12 year olds doing that shit. Maybe younger. Maybe have to be a little bit older than, like, maybe like ten, ten and older. I'm not sure what the what the threshold is, but there is a threshold where it's like you can just go about an entire gender change transition and not even have to tell your parents. I think California is a thing in Texas. I fucking doubt it. I fucking doubt it. Player. They have it in here. Where's he even from? He's from like Africa or some shit, but I'm sure he has. His kids are living I would guess maybe in Texas, maybe spread. Throughout the U.S, California. The new thing coming up. Yeah. Yeah. This trend or what's what's spreading I'm. Sorry, I think I was saying like as far as where where his family resides, like where they live. Oh yeah. Who knows. Right. Like what school is going to allow this to happen or I guess what, counselor? Who is who what person is this kid in communication with that would, like do this? I think that typically would happen in California as well. Yeah. This is Los Angeles. Okay. Yeah. This is, this. So this is what ChatGPT came back with. Is that Elon Musk daughter, Vivian Jenna Watson, formerly known as Xavier Alexander Musk, legally changed her name and gender in June 2022 at the age of 18 and a petition to the Los Angeles County Superior Court. She stated that she no longer lives with or wishes to be related to her biological father in any way, shape or form. 2022 yes. Holy shit, and let me read you two more paragraphs. Vivian is one of my five children with his first wife. Generally to maintain a low public profile in 2024, Elon Musk discussed his daughter's transition in an interview with psychologist Jordan Peterson. Oh, shit. On my cheeks. Yeah. It's not it's not Lex, it's Jordan Peterson. Oh, fudge. And then, he expressed regret over consenting to her gender affirming treatment, claiming he was misled into believing it was necessary to prevent potential harm. Musk stated, I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier. They call it dead naming for a reason. The reason they call it the naming blank, blank, blank killed by the woke mind virus. I don't know, it just kind of trails off right there, dead minding or what does it say? It says in, Elon Musk quote, he says, I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier, that they call a dead naming for a reason. The reason they call it dead, that, and then it says killed by the woke mind virus. I don't know if he's making a joke right there, but it says Elon Musk says his trans daughter, Vivian, was killed by the woke mind virus. Elon Musk claimed he was deceived into allowing the medical gender reassignment of his transgender daughter, sensationally saying she was killed by the woke mind virus. I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys. This is before I had any understanding of what was going on. Covid was going on, so there was a lot of confusion and I was told Xavier my commit suicide. If he didn't make the change. Son of a snitch did. That's crazy. Bro. The Tesla CEO then argued to Peterson that the concept of allowing children to transition is incredibly evil. So Peterson claimed there was no clinical evidence backing up the notion that a child needed medical intervention to watch. Musk replied, I agree with you that the people have been promoting. They should go to prison. Musk said that he essentially lost his child and reiterated that he had been tricked. I mean, he's like literally the smartest guy in the world. And if it's your own kid, you know what I'm saying? Well, this is where they said they call it dead naming for a reason. The reason they call it that naming is because your son is dead. My son Xavier is dead. Killed by the woke mind virus. I don't know that naming is the act of using a transgender person's former name against their wishes, intentionally or not. Oh, so like if a trans person, if you're calling them by their old name, then they say, don't that name me because they're saying that person is dead. So he's saying that I if if my own son feels like that, he's going to tell me that that person is dead, then I blame them for killing my my son more or less. The thing that we're kind of talking about. Yeah. Like alluding to with the some of this engineering. Yeah, that's what they really don't get into it too much, which is kind of like leaves the room to say like, well, how do you get Elon Musk? How do you get tricked into that? You know, it's your kid. You know what I'm saying. But his I guess just having the information of like oh they're, they're not doing too hot. They're not doing well. This is like life or death literally became life or death. Oh he's in the mention of suicide. It's like oh shit I guess I don't know I guess you would assume that he would kind of. You have a little bit more due diligence in, like, trying to figure out what the fuck's going on with this kid or, like, what the what they're actually offering or what the what's the what's the fine print in this contract I'm signing? Yeah, yeah. This was the smartest guys in the fucking world. Here's some fucking world, kid. Read that for him. What? Someone. Really? Yeah. Let's see. Right. That's crazy. I had no idea. Right? No fucking clue, right? I know I saw the clip of him and Jordan Peterson talking about it a little bit, and I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, it sounded to me then. I knew nothing about that. When was they interviewed? They're say 20, 24? I was, I was recently, yeah. But then it happened because I think I remember seeing something about a Jordan Peterson Elon Musk episode on maybe Jordan Peterson's podcast. So that had to be it was the last couple months. So I think in that podcast, I've heard Jordan Peterson allude to it. And I know Elon Musk of those quotes was alluding to it, but basically that people are to some degree like potentially like hearing one symptom and then being like, oh yeah, well, they definitely need to like transition. That's the answer for sure. Like they're gonna what I'm hearing is that it's so bad and it's only going to keep getting so worse that the only thing that we can do is do this. And actually, you're a terrible person if you don't want to let this happen for your kid because they have this malady and you don't want to take the proper steps and they're going to fucking be miserable, usually, unless you could be miserable because you're not open minded enough. Yeah. And then, you know, maybe they go through with it and then maybe he watches his kid not be fucking happy. Maybe he's like, oh fuck, dude, we fucked this kid. Now he's fucking struggling. You know, like he's living a lie or whatever the fuck you know, like, but I think also if your kid transitioned and then they were like, oh yes, I'm happy now. Like things are great. Like my chemistry is working, my body's where it's supposed to be. I feel fulfilled, complete the actualized. I don't think he would be sitting here saying, those are evil people. He probably be like, thankful and happy and be like, yeah, it's true. We probably are an advocate, you know what I'm saying? Right. But it's not because they're saying that these people are kind of manipulating the stats and pushing people towards it. And kind of funneling them towards transition, like they want it to be an industry or something. Yeah. Like the I know Joe talked about the numbers, but doctors getting paid astronomical amounts for these procedures like they're getting paid. What is it? I think I don't want to be grossly off, but I want to say like 200,200. Racks for a sex change procedure. I'm pretty sure that was the number he was throwing around that these doctors are getting upwards of a couple hundred thousand dollars to perform each of these operations. Every time you do multiple in a day. So it's like that seems like a pretty heavy. Heavy. Financial incentive, the same way that you would fucking financially incentivize prescription drugs. It's like you, you financially incentivize them so they get pushed more. So it's like you're financially incentivizing this transition surgery so it gets done more. How is this is how do they make money off of that? Maybe it's not about making money, maybe about the fucking engineer. Yeah. It says The market was at 1.9 billion, and it's probably going to grow to 5 billion in the next decade. But I was saying something more along the lines of like. This one, I'm saying. Like $20,000 maybe. Okay. But I don't know for sure. You know. At least 20 grand even. That's a lot. That's a lot of money doing. I mean, probably 85,000 is like 100 racks in a day. The fuck? Yeah. You can make a million a year. You can be a millionaire. Really. Quick, really quick. Really fast. Yeah, that's enough incentive. It's actually it's actually better that it's lower in the sense. Where I seriously and so it's to do more to make. More. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Let's see if you were a, a manipulator that wanted more of this to happen. You'd be like, yeah, yeah, we need them to do about five a day. And that's about what, 50 a week? Wait, that math doesn't work out. Five a day. Very well. You know, over time, maybe it's more days in the week. Now this. But you go and you say, I'm 20. Five and then five for five. I don't know, bro. There's a lot of people that would also say, you know, I'm a white male who doesn't like. Yeah, yeah, you're fucking white guy. Fucking racist white guy over here. Intolerant shit. Yeah. You love Elon Musk, Donald Trump and sucking on gun barrels. Yeah yeah. Talking to barrel. Yeah. Going to strong shaft. Yeah I think that they would. Definitely. Some people would just think I'm a bigot and they'd be like bro I can't believe this is white males about to tell me about what a transgender person goes through or what Elon Musk's daughter went through, having to live with that piece of shit that wasn't there for her, and then he signed the paperwork because he wasn't around very much. So it was just like, yeah, sure, here you. Must not known. Yeah, right. What's going on? Right. There's some perspective there that were just fucking the patriarchy. Where did that perspective come from? What do you mean? I just think I'm a person with an opinion looking at the stats. But where? Somewhere along the line, that opinion got somewhat invalidated because it was coming from a white male, because we have a skewed perspective, because we can't understand tyranny. We're opening up all the Pandora's box right now. But boxes, I'm. Saying I think that came from TikTok. You know what I'm saying is destabilization of. Maybe the social media in general. I think TikTok specifically was like is like trying to push some shit. I never see that shit on Instagram. Did you ever see any white male posts on Instagram? Fucking Tumblr, bro. Probably time like a Tumblr on TikTok. Early days? Yeah, I don't I don't interact much. I see. I think we were talking about that earlier. I guess I do information gather, but I guess I never came across anything like that. Or I guess like you're talking about posts trying to that virtue signal. They're trying to like just paint opinions about other opinions. Yeah. It's like people with these opinions. What do you get these opinions from, Yeah. Fuck garbage ass opinions, guys. Garbage people. Garbage opinions. You gotta you gotta burn America to the ground thinking like that, Yeah. You saying you have seen some of that, like on TikTok? Oh, yeah. Well, I haven't seen it, but I know it's there. My sister told me that it's there. There's definitely a lot of people saying. I can't believe blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Like going off ranting. The people in the comments and then these are her people, these are her people. Yeah. 16 to 24. Some kind of following and some kind of audience. They're just spewing what the fuck you every fucking you ever said some shit. You're like realize later as an adult you don't know what the fuck you were talking about. Yeah, yeah, I'm. Sure all the time. Yeah that some of that's going on do some of that's going on for sure. Yeah, yeah. Kids just being kids, I guess. At what point do you like, consider yourself like an adult or like you're most people, I guess, would say like 17 or 18. You're like an adult legally. Whatever. No, no, I think I guess your mind is for males. Your mind is developing until 25. So even then, like you're an adult. So at that point. Yeah. But yeah, if you're prior to that, if you're just like a kid or like a young person, like you think you're an adult, you feel like an adult. You think you know everything. Dude, right? Yeah. So you're just you're just saying what you think you're saying, what you feel. It makes sense for sure it's valid. And sometimes it's like, man, I spent Spanish teacher one time said, like, you guys know enough Spanish to be dangerous now because you don't really know what the fuck you're saying. So. So you could end up saying some shit on accident. Be like, disrespect somebody. Whereas like in English, you get into a conversation with like certain business folk or certain respected people. It's like you don't want to have a social faux pas. Let's speak real carefully. Make sure we get all our fucking P's and Q's. Yes sir, yes, ma'am, stuff like that. Well, Spanish, you're just like, fucking honest. All up for good. Does your fucking. You know, fuck. You know, you can't be careful, you know. And I think this is, that's the same thing with, like, sometimes the same thing about kids talking politics. It's like even me, like, right now, you know what I'm saying? Like, right now, still same thing. I'm later. I'm up. Be like, yeah, I said that because I was promoting this idea in this time when I really should be promoting this idea, it's always hard to know. But some of this shit is fucking crazy. Some of it is wild, like wild like the cyst y male. Like, yeah, we could just say, like you could say yes, that's still true today. It just having a fire underneath the fucking stove to really cook that meat that is fuck white people. But it is there. You do have a skewed perspective because you've always been what's the word where you get privileges. Privileged. There we go. Right. Sure. Get it. That might be true I don't it's out there. But then there's other people. I'd be like, well that was just like a fucking trend, you know what I'm saying? We hit on everybody from time to time. So what the fuck you going to be a bitch about? It is your turn. Yeah, this is your turn. But I want you to. I'm like, okay, it's cool at least. And I hate normal. It's not picking on me every day, you know what I'm saying? It's fine. But I think that if you look at we're going to, we're going to jump a gap here. Okay. Jump it. Kamala Harris. Come on. I think a lot of her platform is that she's not a white male. She's definitely not. I think it's like the majority of her platform is that she's not who they deem Donald Trump to be, which is this tyrannical asshole fuck you grabbed by the pussy cyst white male, though. He said that shit. Yeah, they fucking said that shit like it was a president. He might be the president again. I kind of he said that shit. I think I'm going in that direction again. I hope. Oh my God, what a. Fucking crazy timeline. Dude. Come on dog, you telling me this motherfucking, But yeah, yeah, I see I see what you're saying hundred percent. That's a large part of her platform. And her, Her draw is she's not a white guy. They're pretty much like, just don't fuck it up. Just, like, stop saying stupid shit. If you could. If you could. Just, like, in debates and sound kind of knowledgeable, that'd be great, because we just got to get over the over the year that you're not competent help, and they view you as competent. They should pick you. Yeah, I don't know I don't know any of her policies. I don't know the legitimate power she has or, naming power per se, with information and access to power. Like, know how of how to navigate politics and foreign policy. Does she have that? I'm no fucking dear. I have no fucking idea, I can tell you. But from what I've gathered, people think that she doesn't, at least for from what I've heard from Joe Rogan. Yeah, right. That's a lot of my opinion. I get it, I get it. I'm the same you. I didn't watch the debate. I'm sorry. You could invalidate everything. I'm saying because most of my information comes from Joe Rogan. If you wanted to, you could paint in a picture. You want to paint, you know, I right for sure. It's an American community forum. It's got a gun to protect that. Right? Yeah. Come on. But but at the same time, it's just like, oh, man. Well, law Obama's policies. I don't think we really knew. I think we did know more back then. Actually, it was more more prevalent. It's like, yeah, he believes in because Obamacare and like liberal policies were like a bigger deal. Big environmental the environmental stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That's just kind of like liberal where, you know, that's kind of like that direction. Oh, he was just a cool black guy. Yeah, he could talk. Well, the same reason I like Washington, Denzel Washington, same reason we voted for Obama. He's great. He could deliver a speech. Fucking a bow, bro. He could talk. That's my. Guy. That's what I was saying. Like. Oh, fucking. That's my dog. I think it's what people want to say. I think people just wanna look on TV and say, that's my dog. He's got it. He's got. I gotta take care of it. You know, I'm saying, like, I think that that. I don't think the policies matter much. No matter. Son of a bitch. It's a big. Popularity contest, bro. For real, for real, for real. Who could talk the best? I mean, the class president, you know? Yeah, right. Who knows the best things to say to the right groups of people? Be cool with the right clicks. Have a competency test. Can we just have like a combined for presidents? They should have their IQ like displayed publicly or not. Like has a high or an IQ. Yeah, yeah. Height weight age IQ not a bad idea. Hometown not a terrible idea. Give me more of a picture here. Come on. Yeah, I think the competence test IQ would be. That'd be kind of a cool stat to have with the presidential candidate. You know. So many things that could happen. Like imagine if Donald Trump had up like two hierarchy points and Kamala Harris field day. Field day. It's his birthday. Dude. But then it wouldn't necessarily equate I guess we could look, take a look. We look back and do some data research. So guy who had the best presidencies and who has legitimate like good tactics and good political mind and who had a how can we correlated the IQ in any way, look at all maybe the smarter people that are worse people or worse. Rulers, you might start 20 years of study. You know, saying it's true. I think it's a fair I think that's a fair stat to ask for, for my president. What's your IQ? What do you want to know? Are you dumb? What do you want, a dumb person? Are you a smart person? Obviously relatively these mid like you could be mid plus whatever. It's just like you get, you. Get fucking Joe Biden and it's like it accidentally pulls up his because of the format he got installed. And it's like 80. Six was like oh my God. No, that's the TV show episode of what we just did. They get that installed and they finally get it through, and then they get to the debate, and then Joe Biden wills himself out in a wheelchair because he's still the president. And it's just, like, so low. It's astonishing. And everyone's appalled that we ever elected that guy. Oh, God, that could. Be true. I mean. I mean, do you. Think is it or when this is the conversation we were having at your birthday at Blue Prime, and we stopped because the waitress came over and we could never find the. Trail. We're back, we're back. We finally made it back. Back, baby, that was months ago. Yeah. What happened? Do you think that higher intelligence directly correlates to more success? Or better life? I think that's that's what we're talking about. Yeah. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think I think we women may have also mentioned the idea that being a smarter person or having a higher IQ actually might make it easier to have a worse life or to be too smart for your own good. You know, it's like to to understand the risk of everything. Or maybe like Rick and Morty, like Rick Sanchez, like you're so smart that it's like you become nihilistic because, like, you're like the smartest person in the world. Yeah. You're like this life is all pain and suffering. Like, oh, everyone's stupid. I've become smart enough to realize that everyone's stupid. And that hurts me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So maybe I don't think it would directly correlate every time to where everyone has a enjoyable, successful life, has a higher IQ than the next neighbor. I think we could. I think it'd be back and forth, you know, because some people could be really smart in something like, I have a high IQ and be really good at numbers, but like have a really shitty personal life and like, not know how to connect with their kids or how to fucking talk to their wife or their loved one, whatever. You know, I'm saying. Right? I also think about, I don't know, I had like a this like a psychic kind of mind. It was like a random skit, but it was just like personifying and pointing to the idea of like and what we're talking about, it's like there's like it's two. It's like a side by side split screen. It's like two different scenarios that are going on at the same time. And it's like the the sea in both splits is just someone waking up and then and one of the splits is just like someone waking up and like, like a house that I'm living in is like super chill, like nothing crazy. But like, we have like, like a home, you know, I'm saying we have, like, a household and like, love and like, we're good, we're chill. We're like, we interact with each other. We're all like, on an upward vibration. Like we're we're we're in a good spot. We're grateful. Like we have everything we need. But like, it's it's a small house. But then like on the other side, it's like someone, like waking up in a fucking mansion, but they don't have anybody in the bed with them, and they're like, drunk as fuck or like, hung over stuff from drinking the night before, and they're like, sloppily walking around their mansion. And then there's like, it's just empty. There's no one in there. No, like there's no liveliness, there's no plant life. Even the plants that are in there are dead. Yeah. So shit like that. It's like, which one, which one's better. Like which one's a better life, right? It's like that person's net worth is like 1.2 million. So this person's net worth is like $1,000. True. It's like, which one's a better life? It's like, and this person might be smarter. Like, the person might have a higher IQ, a better business savvy, a little bit more not political. But whatever connections, social connections that lead you to the more opportunity so they could be have a better financial life and a better house and a car and more financial stability, more freedom to go on vacations, whatever. But yeah, it's like, what do you value? What's the what's what would be a better existence? It's kind of up for debate, kind of kind of make it yourself. You kind of like decide your own value system with the help of some other good influences and some other people or other whatever movies or whatever the fuck you see in the movie or like, oh yeah, I want to live like that. Or if, like if you're lucky, lucky enough to be surrounded by family members who are doing it right or have like a good household, it's like, yeah, like going over to my Aunt Carol's house or whatever. So like every time I'm movie, there's like, it's clean, like the get the dog, it's a nice dog's a nice house. They always got fucking food in the fridge or whatever. Like they got the coolest fucking sodas, like, I so does. I never heard of that type of shit, you know, I'm saying. So it's like maybe you have an example like that in your life. You're like, okay, I want to do it like that. Yeah. So you kind of decide, but I don't know. I just had like the, the juxtaposing idea of having those two side by side of like a just waking up in your house, whatever that is for you. So it doesn't have to be a large, crazy house. It's just like, you know, what's better? It's kind of up to you, right? Some people, big and cool. I'm cool with not having, like, a formal relationship and like, no kids and having my own giant mansion doing my own thing in my own time. I'm not check in with anybody. I kind of like that. Or maybe you're just along for a little bit of time. To like, you know, if you're just like alone for like 2 or 3 years, you know, I'm saying it's like not the end of the world. Yeah. I think sometimes we think like being alone is being alone forever. You know what I'm saying. But just because I've had that same image hop of my own mind where I was like, it was, I had the same, same idea, but it was like being on an airplane, like a private jet, but then being alone on a private jet. And I was like, you're wealthy on a private jet, but then you're like, alone. It's like sad, you know? But like, I think that the I let that be a motivator for me to, like, not want to be alone before, whereas I should have just been like, that's like a fear almost. It's like sometimes you can be alone for a little bit of time and it's like, okay, you know, or like, good. Yeah, fuck yeah. But I think it's like, what's better is the question, you know what I'm saying? Like, what are you what's the how do you want to live, you know, do you want to live like this? You want to live like that. Like also like, let's say like like you're alone in the mansion and then, you know, let's say that person does me a partner and then they get married, and then now he has wife. But then, like, their relationship just sucks. You know what I'm saying? It's like then definitely the guy that is in the happy home who is in a more affordable home, whatever. Smaller, less money. He's obviously living a better life. You know, at that point it's like less comparable. So it's like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, seriously. Yeah. You need like your relationship to be good and you need like the money to be good and like the home to be good and like, organization and peace. It's like so many layers, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, how do you organize all of that? It's like, I don't fucking know. You know what I'm saying? There's like so many decisions I can make every day, you know? Yeah. I think it's, it's a, it's this fucking, it's this fucking cultivating you're doing the whole time. It's like you just, it's like yeah man. Because it's like I cuz a thing you know like politics or thing, religions of thing, hometown culture, you know, family life, what your mom was like to you, what your dad was like to you. You grew up with siblings who grew up a single child. So many factors that can create these different thinking processes. Right. So you're determining like which president would be like the most effective. It's like well for a wide receiver if they're six three run A43 and they went to Alabama. It's like that's the most effective way to say. We're usually not boys very young. Good hands. For him I'll drop that. I'll stick. Yeah for show probably good on that. It doesn't matter what the name is. And there might be certain demographics we start finding in presidents. So it's like, you know, if they're this with this, with that, usually it's a good president. You know, when in doubt, they're like in the fucking fallout series when he's like, when times are tough, vote for someone from 44 or when it's rhyme, you know what I'm saying? Okay. And they're basically saying when everything's you're bad, we usually vote for someone for 43 for president. It's like, I think they'll probably become a thing in our culture now. It's like, no, no, no, I just vote for the the guy that checks the box. You know, the guy that's the. Went to the good school or whatever. Yeah, for sure. Maybe it's like minority president from, like, that went to a minority president. I went to a good school and has a high IQ. It's like those are the three factors that usually lead for the perfect leader could end up being like that. All that to say those, it's too much. I couldn't actually tell you which one would be the better leader in reality. Or like, the better athlete or the better, you know, businessman. But it's like, I know that I don't think any of those factors determine any of those things, you know what I'm saying? I think it's just like your ability, it's a different factor. It's like your ability to cultivate the good life, your ability to cultivate, like, good decisions and like good energy and like holistic spirituality, like your actual how do you really feel like you what's your truth? Can you be aligned with that? Can you can you let that manifest in your life? Slowly but surely? I think that's how you end up on top of the mountain with this great job and this great relationship and these great family life with your kids and all this connections and like weird plugs, it's like I met a guy that had a thing, and now I got a basketball court in my backyard. Never thought I was going to happen, but now I've got a basketball court in my backyard, so, like, things can't stop going right for this guy. It's like because he cultivated the good life wherever the fuck you were working in a fuckin. What's that thing where they break rocks. Big ass like a quarry? Yeah, a quarry. That's my definition of a hard job. Maybe working in a quarry. Or maybe you're working as a server. Or maybe you just went to college. It's like along the way you get along the way. You know what I'm saying? Did you do a good job of of doing good? I like to think that's what makes a person fuckin end up in those positions where they're having that really great life. I really fucking hope so. Yeah, it is matching that vibration or putting that out there with that intention of the. Yeah. Just being able to cultivate the good life form regardless of your situation, your external doesn't matter. Put you anywhere. It's like I will be okay. Like I'll make I'll make good come out of this or whatever. Right. That's all. That's all I fucking can you put that on a stat board? Yeah. I was like, I don't think I could attach to that. I was not attached to that. I don't think so at all. No, I don't think so at all. That's the thing. And I think that that's like a we don't measure that, you know, we don't we don't look at that. I think that's the Bible. And I'm saying the, the fruits of the. Yeah of the tree. Yeah. Defines the tree. You know, because I met a guy, I met Coach Trailer and I just, like, didn't meet him in a situation where he was, like, talking to me, but, like, he introduced, you know, shook his hand, talked very briefly, and then just watched him engage with other people and, like, be at a dinner. And, you know, I was just, like, blown away with how rich that guy's life was, like this. I mean, like, I don't know, I don't know if they're gonna come after that, but just like the the way that he described his relationship with his wife and with his kids and his wife was there. So like, I saw that to some degree, their relationship, you know what I'm saying? Like the energy in the room, the way that he told his stories, the points of view he had, the stories about his kids, like the the what was happening, like the actual scene he was in. I was just like, dude, this guy's life is like, this is beyond having a good life. Like, this is like a, like a really high level rune skate player or like, like a really, really dense chocolate cake. Like, it's so rich. It's like you have chocolate cake, but that's like cafeteria, hospital food. Chocolate cake. Like, that's fucking shit. Cake like this. That ain't chocolate cake. This is like devil's fruit cake, but it's actually angel food cake. Yeah, yeah. But that it just it hit me because it was. So I was like, what. Is he on? What the fuck is. How do you get that? How the fuck do you end up in that? Yeah. It wasn't that you wanted to be a coach. Or that it. Yeah, because you did. But it wasn't that that guy I. Don't know, I mean, you you, me. Yeah. Yeah. Looking at. Him. Yeah. No, I didn't want that. Yeah I don't want his actual position. I wanted the way all of his, all of his life tied together. Everything that he was a part of was like lined up. Yeah. And all of the, all the people, his kids were doing these interesting things and they had these like, you know, one of his kids is an NFL football coach. Has type. Crazy man, bad ass. Not only that, but then his story as a coach was like tumultuous. And he had to like there was like head coaching changes and staff changes. And he thought he maybe he should take another offer. And he stayed and he waited it out. And then now he got promoted. And now they look at him really highly as well paid. And I was just like, this is crazy, bro. This is I'm looking at most people who like fucking their kids are working at the library while they're going to college. Like, like it. Was bananas enough that you're sitting here with your whole crazy life story, and then you've got these kids with this crazy life story, and then your wife's this crazy, supportive person, and you guys have been through thick and thin, and I'm just like, man, it's blown away. You know what? I'm saying? Yeah. Someone living like a really good life. It's a good life. Yeah. It made me realize that that's something that can like. That's like being rich. Like, do you want to do you want to grow up being broke or you want to grow up being rich? It's like, well, I want to be rich, but not like, you know, in a weird way. But I'd like to I guess what I'm saying is, like, if you're a kid and you say you want to be like when you're when you're adult, do you want to be rich or do you want to be poor? It's like, definitely. Want to be rich. Yeah, I'll get a good job and I'll fucking do a thing or I'll be an athlete. It's like the same thing with this, though. It was like, oh my God, I can have a life where I'm like, everything is really intense and awesome or and makes sense and is connected and people respect me for it. Or I can be like, what a drug addict. It's like both of those things are on the table. That's fucking crazy. That's fucking crazy. Scary movie, bro. Oh for real. Like if you're not able to cultivate the good life, then like the bad life is. Fucking right there waiting for you, bro. My fuck is on the side of the street. It's like. Oh my God, living. Under the overpass and shit was like, dude, bro. I don't think I'll ever stop being sensitive. That shit is jarring. You see a homeless person that's just a door you. I think we just look at it like it's like, you know. Oh, yeah, there's the fucking guy in the corner. There should be joy. You should be jarred. Yeah. Like, oh, holy shit. They need a shower. Whoa. Like, God damn, that could be you. That could be. That could be you. It could be, it. Could be, man. I guess sometimes mental health is up play. Yeah, but God damn, bro, that's just scary, bro. Fuck that. Very scary. Dude. See? Anyways, with that being said, I really want that rich life. But not in a weird way, but just like. A rich. Life. Yeah man, I. Want to fucking. What does that cost? What does. It say was though they were doing it right now is proper. Sacrifice. That's the only thing we got. That's that's the best says the best. Method we found. Yeah. Proper sacrifice will lead to a good life. Yeah. Tell the truth. Proper sacrifice. So many perspectives as a coach. Coach Traylor might have been annoyed to be there that day under the surface. Could have gotten the answer. Okay, glad that's over. Done with that. Now I can go home and do what I want. Go over film like I want to. I can go prepare for next week like I've been wanting to, you know, like a real coach or whatever. Yeah. Like, it's, you know, he might have been not having even a great time in that moment. He might have been like, man, the stuff you signed up for when you when you do this life, you know, but like, who knows? He didn't display that on him. I'm just saying, it's so crazy how like, all of the, you know, the guy, like, in the house with the kids in the small, small house being happier than the guy alone in a mansion. It's like, was the guy in the mansion just alone for a little bit, and then he's going to meet a great wife and be really happy, or is he going to meet a terrible wife? And I mean really miserable? Like, what what what is all happening, all the different angles of perspective. It's also crazy. It's also crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's never too late. It's never too late. But. Damn man. Yeah. Be careful. Yeah. Be careful. Oh it happens fast. It happens fast I mean I don't know, but I assume that's how they get there. Do you ever wonder. It can be a scary movie. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure as you mentioned, like mental health and then familial relations or not even familial relationships with whoever, whatever. Fuck. I'm in a bad marriage. Took all the shit, and then you just in a depression, alcohol, lost your job and boom, boom, boom boom, like three steps away from. It's like, oh, fuck. Yeah, I don't. Know. At some point in time, bro, I feel like you got a you got to be like, I'm going to go ask for money. Like you tell yourself you're like, I'm going to go right on a sign because I don't feel like because I'm on, man, I always feel like they just got stranded somehow. They're like, they got kicked out of a van. Their family said, we're done with you. Just the moving van. Yeah. That's it. Cross country, dawg. You don't know where you're at. Yeah. Dropped off in Oklahoma. Yeah. Your wife was driving and she said filing for divorce. We're actually moving to a different house than the one that I told you we were moving to. Get the fuck. Out. So you don't go. Don't go look for me there. I'm not going to be there, never going to see me again. And by the way, your job fired you too, though maybe you quit his job. So he's literally like, you know, stranded homeless guy. That's like what my brain wants to conjure up but in reality. Oh thanks. No I think it's more drug related. Yeah, right. A little more druggie right. Probably. But definitely. Maybe not all the time. But I think there they play a role. Yeah. Alcohol or whatever the fuck. What is your scenario. You have no one you can stay with. Like maybe both your parents have passed away. No family in the area. No family in the area, no car. What are you supposed to do? Well, you just do. What they supposed to do, man. I did walk to stuff in your local Luby's put in a job application. I mean, that's what. That's what I would do. That's what I would do. But I also understand. So you get the wrong person in your ear. Just. Dude, I made $300 on the corner of West Half yesterday.$300? I'm high right now. It's fucking awesome. I'm going back tomorrow. I'll be high. Tomorrow. It's fucking. Oh, yeah. Oh that's scary dude. That's what I'm saying though, is that somewhere along the line, I think you make the choice to go out there. And I just like. I mean, goddamn, have I. I don't know if you should have conviction about this, but I got I have conviction about something. But I'm not fucking doing that shit. I'd rather, like, just find a work anywhere. Yeah, it's fucked up. I'd rather try to, like, ask to borrow a suit or something like that so I could fill out applications, give the suit back. Yeah, like, got a good one. As far as suit, I don't know, I get fucking creative. Do I get fucking crafty in that bitch? Take care of that. Because fuck that, bro. I mean, everyone's got a line, something they won't do. I guess for me that's one that every time I see a homeless person, it's just so jarring. Like, just wrap my head around. I'm like, no, that can't be me. Can't be me. No way. It could, but not I will. Not that I can't, I can't let that happen. Fuck that. That's super scary bro. You don't think anyone's. No one wants to be there. You know. They no one's aiming for that. You just happen to get there. Oh. Oh that's funny. I'm jarred I'm jarred. So it's like being fat, bro. Oh, must be. Fat aiming at that. No. Yeah. Just get there. Just get there. It's like aim at something. Yeah. Aim at something. You develop an ability. Don't develop. That. Yeah. Don't develop an ability. Nah. Nah fuckin dude bro. Fucking dude. What are we talking. You talked about everything, Yeah, we're talking about politics. Did he? Transgenderism. Talking about the baby? Yeah, it's about killing for something. Yeah. It's self-defense. Yeah, true. It's a lot. It's another reason for me to be more politically vocal. What if being vocal doesn't help? Don't fucking cares. But I think you should know what's going. On, right? Yeah. There's nothing knowing what's going on, for sure. For your own self. And then maybe trying to spread that information. Yeah. At least like politely. I know what I'm trying to say. Like cordially. Don't be fucking spamming people on Facebook or whatever. I think with your own kids, I'm fucking. That's that's where it's important. That's why I'm at. Welcome to the school of Matthew, dude. Yes. Right. That's why it's important for you to be, not engaged, but in the know. Yeah. For your kids and your household. Yeah. More so than for other people, for sure. You can't. You can't control what people can. You can't do it. It's not gonna happen. I'm sorry about it. It's not going to happen. And I don't think I'll listen to you. But I didn't want to. I want to it down or no. We're going to follow. The policy of forever and ever and ever and ever. But this is probably the longest part of the day. Good God. You know, we're pushing. Oh I'm sorry. I miss you guys. I miss the Justin pods. Well podcasting with some guests lately. Yeah. We're getting the guest spots up getting the viewership off screen. The audience we got, we got a heavy heavy lifting of pods coming up next week. We're going to be hitting it start on Saturday. Actually. Yeah. Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdays Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We're going to be hitting it and then other shit along the way. But yeah man, more life, more every day. It's crazy. It's going by fast. Life's flying. Sorry about to be December. But within the next year 2025 is already. We're getting old on camera. Yeah, we watch back some of our old bods and in a couple of years, they. Oh, there's some young books there. Go to them that Michael Jordan Mark. The Archies. Well yes man. It was episode 66 six of them. Thanks. Keep it on pushing baby. Follow us everywhere. More content, more music, more podcasts. Everything. All the socials we're getting. 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