It's Been TOO Long | The MJ38 Show Episode #70

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So jump into the intro to 38. Yo, what's up y'all? Episode 70 we're rolling deep. We're coming back. It's been a minute. It's been too long. It's been too long. Welcome back y'all. Justin Matthew Andrew 38. We're here, you're here. Let's be here together. Have a life, kid. Welcome. The presents. Welcome. Welcome to the moment. The moments. Nice. We're chillin in it. We're basking in it. A lot's happened since our last. Since our last pod. So much life has passed. There's like, 100 days. It's been, like, pretty damn close to 100 days since our last podcast. Unbelievable. Where does it go? Where does the time go? Yo, if you're not careful, she was fired by you soon. If you're not careful. A whole week go by and then that'll happen 12 times. Yeah. Oh, shit. There you go. 100 days. That was fast. That's crazy. Because, yeah, we were executing a plan, like a mission. And I feel like it was like, execute. And then I can like. Do the universe to this woman right here. And I'm like dude that was a wild. That's a wild program. We just right. Is in play on the new simulation. But man you. Yeah a lot of shit going on. We're going to have what we were talking about earlier talking about GTA GTA six who knows. I you know when supposed to come out the projected date for it. But it's been. We were talking about just how long it's been. It's been like 11.5, almost 12 years since the last one came out. And people are still playing GTA five a lot. Right? It's still super popular. It's like in the middle of stuff that you should be doing. If you're like a person that's like a youthful, I guess, like, boy, probably, you know. Yeah, I think it's a male demographic dominated game. Yeah. For sure. Like one of our friends, I went over to their house and their their kid was playing GTA. It's like driving around and stuff. And I was just like, that's the meta. Like, you know, everybody got mad. At that GTA. Call of duty. Yeah. You know, like. I guess I could guess which games he runs. They're just like Fortnite. He runs Fortnite. I don't know if you talk to me about it. I was just like, yeah, that's cool. This is what being a kid is nowadays, you know what I'm saying? It's a little different than we're being kids before us too. Okay. So that's it was, it was nice. It was like new. It was fresh. Call of duty was like just coming out Halo. You know. I think our, our parents expected us to play outside a lot more. Did you get that from your mom? Nah. Maybe. No. Not really. I don't think. We played a good amount outside, I guess as kids. And, like, we played sports and stuff. Yeah. So we're, like, involved. And we had shit that we were doing outside of. Yeah, two games at the. House, like, practice and stuff. Yeah. So I wasn't like super, super harped on. But there was definitely times where it probably could have been. Hard on the logging hours, bro. I went into. Whatever I was, I even played back in the day. Yeah, like ruin scape, call of Duty, Halo. Put. Hours into that shit. Lots of time. Stayed up all night and all night. But you know, playing zombies with the homies until 4 a.m.. That was a common thing. Yeah. You know. Yeah, from ages 5 to 10. I definitely was more. In high school, though. When I was younger, we were like, outside more. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was like. Yeah, like 5 to 10. I feel like my parents like threw me outside. They're like, go play. Yeah. You know what? I'm saying? Yeah. And like we had bikes and we played a lot of times. Just played football outside after school. But a super chill. Yeah. Yeah 100%. Right. All that stuff you know. But I don't know if that exists right now the same way. I'm not sure. Yeah I guess being a kid now you're playing Fortnite and shit. That's the meta. Yeah. Yeah that's the. Meta. I think video games are way more integrated. It's also just like more chill, more safe hyper kid like right over here running Fortnite you know. Right. All right guys it feels yeah it feels a little more weird or you feel as a parent you feel a little bit more weary. Just layer layer kids go outside right. At least a little bit. At least in my opinion. We have an 11 year. Old and. I don't know, much like in our backyard, you know, but like we would go out in the apartment complex because it's a little different house versus the apartment in the apartment complex is like, it's like just like a little city. It's like a very little. Mini mini mini mini city with, like, your homies, you know, it's like a mini college. Yeah, yeah, a little bit like the dorms are right there. Yeah. I think we go to his house. I don't go to his house. Yeah, seriously. My neighborhood when I was living in the house was we treated at the same now, but yeah, yeah. I remember yeah. Like you had a couple homies that we would always go to play football with or play basketball or whatever. Yeah, let's go hang out. Totally. Like like Blake lived out there. Kyle lived across the street or like, the other street over the cul de sac. At the end of that one, they had a bunch of basketball hoops, but I don't really know those kids, but they'd be playing basketball. Sometimes we ride over to the basketball court to see who's there. We did that like all the time, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Ride our bikes. Yeah, yeah, we had a ride the bikes were back then, but when I was living at the ranch, we would just pull up to the basketball court, like every day. Yeah. The apartment complex. Yeah. And so it was cool. And then when we'd be at an apartment complex and then like, walk over to the neighborhood and then just see if people were open or whatever. And that was always fun. Yeah. I feel like it's a little bit different now though. I guess you know what I'm saying. We were like a probably around that age like 10 to 12 doing that kind of stuff, hanging with the peoples. Yeah. Hanging with the kids in the, in the social environment that we were in house or. Apartment, I. Feel like now, I don't. Know. I wouldn't feel super comfortable. Maybe it's like boy versus a girl thing. I don't know if I had a son. Criminal minds came out like. We seen way too much shit shit, bro. We just went to when and. Where the show is now. So there's Morgan, bro, I got I'm Derek Morgan there. You know in the Derrick Morgan right. Versus they close like yeah. Oh is that. Like a is that a media inspired pop culture thing or is that truth. Or was it always super sketchy. And we just got away with it. We were younger. I think that. Was the more crazy people. That I heard. My my parents were 40, not so much anymore, but when they were like 40, I remember them saying something like along the lines of like, that it's just not it's not like it used to be. Like you would just be able to, like, walk outside and leave your door open. And everybody was cool. Everybody knew everybody. And like. I think this still applies, though in some places. I think. Right. You like. To think so. Maybe in some small, small. Some small town. Towns across the Midwest. I bet, like if you're a. Resident and, like, lost his house like that row of houses, like you're probably chill. El Sendero or which one? Yeah, that's just like one example. But like, in that area, there's like little neighborhoods, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I feel comfortable walking up and down the streets, stuff like that for the most part. But like leaving your door unlocked and like leaving your keys in your car, you know what I'm saying. Like I feel like there was a point in time where the older people were saying that they used to be able to do that. And now there's like, we can't, you can't do that anymore, right. Yeah. Right. Is that I guess, is that pointing towards like, are we crazy or now is there more crazy people? Are we more like, prone to criminal criminality? What's going on in our society? The the kernel of in my story, it's because I watch so much Criminal Minds. When I was like 12 years old, that I was. Like, oh, I got to be careful, you know what I'm saying? There's like, bad people out there. Yeah, there's this a lot of documentaries about that kind of shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's like probably like thousands. I remember being just scared when I was a kid, though, you know, like, you want to take the trash out at night and shit like that, like, go drop this off in the mailbox, but it's like 8 p.m.. I remember thinking, like, you know, I was I was running side to side on the road. Just in case there are any shooters out there who knows? Snipers. Oh, give them that. Take me out again. The serpentine. Walking the fucking serpentine. Driving up the mail as a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Watch out. Okay, dude. Too much. Left, right. You gotta go left, left right left right left right right right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? On the drop. Yeah. Oh, good looking out there. I love the cooking. Running with the burpee. Dude. You ever see it coming you get it. So with you. So I think the maybe there's like a natural fear that we have of the closet or like the dark. Yeah. The thing that lurks in the dark. The unknown. Yeah. The bad thing that could happen. Yeah. And then and then maybe Criminal Minds and all these Netflix documentaries and all that shit, like gave a face to that, like boogeyman that we're worried about. Like the idea of criminality, like what that actually looks like. And, and maybe that's why we're, like, more cautious now. It's like, it's crime, higher percentage wise. I don't know. I don't know if anybody really gets a crime down. I don't think we'll ever maybe, maybe I don't know, it might just be part of our inherent nature as humans. You know, we have that born out of sin. Where but one argument. Be crazy. Other country is crime rates are way higher. There are some countries that have way higher crime rates than us. Really? Yeah. Oh, so. That's the. Internet. What are the highest crime rate percentages in countries across the world? I'm I guess we're not even like the top 20. There's some there's some bad place. I think we're in the top 20. I don't know, maybe I'm not. Okay, well, what's your guess? What do you think? We lie. Dude, if right now or if I'm going with, like guy, I'll say like 23, like Michael Jordan. 23 like Michael Jordan did. Okay, hold on. I'm pulling up some shit right here. Just because there's there's much more third world countries where, like, people are living a lot more rough than us. Are they even, like recording those crimes or like that's another thing, too. Well, well, Bureau's collecting this information. Yeah, yeah. And this. Is on. I don't even know. This is what is this. Nation, master nation, Monster.com. Oh, you know how legitimate this is going to be. We'll see. I mean, this is on the reputation at Google at this point for the number one. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm on Safari. This is on this is on Apple. Shit. Steve Jobs is corpse did not build an empire and fall to have Safari be so shitty at this 2025 age number one. Oh, god, I think I didn't say my guess. What was you guessed 23. I guess 20. Three. My guess. I don't know. I just feel like we're. Maybe that's just media propaganda. I feel like we're a relatively dangerous place. I would say top ten for sure. Maybe top five. Okay. I would say like, like six, maybe 5055. Okay. Like an honest on the top five. On top five for sure. And this is saying totals per capita, total crimes per capita okay. And this is 2002. What the fuck is this. What's up Downing bro. This is it. We can be talking about that. George. Jeez, Louise. I was going to type it in. Christ on a cracker. I think. It had it had it it had a. Response for me. Like I generated response I had. This, I. Mean, unless I could use the bread. My body. Yeah. Okay. I'm some of the highest crime rates 2025 nation national. That's the most 25 dangerous places in the US from last year. Most 20 dangerous cities in America. Let's just say countries. Chad, you busy might be able to put something together right. Well, I guess I should heat. Crime rate by country updated 2025 world oh stats. Dot com. Okay, let's. See what we're out here. Top ten countries with the highest crime rate per 100,000. Population number one Venezuela. 80 point. Nine. So what is that like 8 billion or 88,000,080 million. 889. What's the math 80.9%. What capita is it per. 100,000? 89% per 100,000. So for every 100,000, there's, 80,000. So then. Yeah, how many people are there? 80,000 times what? I don't know, I'm not sure how many people are in Venezuela. Let's go to I'm sure it's some calculated percentage that's pointing towards the argument that we're talking about. You know, I'm saying by the way. Yeah. So this one is saying Venezuela. I'm not sure where this is totally Papua New Guinea. Okay. Haiti. Afghanistan, South Africa. Yeah, that's pretty much what I was predicting. That's top five. There's some tough, rough places out there. You know what I'm saying, Daniel? We're blessed. We're blessed up. Holy shit. The next five. So that was top five. Top five Venezuela number one, Papua New Guinea, Haiti, Afghanistan, South Africa and then six through ten six is Honduras and then Trinidad, Tobago, Syria. Jamaica and Peru. Jamaica is top ten. Why don't you vacation spot y'all watch honeymoons? Yeah, yeah, that could be it. I'm sure. I'm sure that's one of those places you hear about, like, don't don't go outside the resort. Probably. They also don't look for us. We're not even in like that. Can't even see us on here. What the fuck did the world is? We're not even in the top 50. Oh, jeez. No way, brother, but I'm. Well, I didn't. My argument was kind of that, like, relative to, like like in Afghanistan. There's just like, I'm pretty sure terrorists that, like, have, like, tolls. That's like, you know what I'm saying? Committing crime on people, robbing them in Mexico, like the cartels and stuff like that. You know what? Like, I can't remember if it was in there may have been two separate instances, maybe of the same groups. But there was I remember hearing about in Colorado, I'm pretty sure, and and maybe in San Antonio, but like some Venezuelan gang or like some foreign domestic gang people came over, started to fucking run an apartment complexes and shit. Yeah. Hear about that? Yeah. What I'd heard was that, I mean, I don't know if we're going to get demonetized. Okay. Go for it, bro. What. I had heard is that, like, at the point in time when, like, the Venezuelan prison releases were happening and then they were just, like, coming, quote unquote, to our border, it was the same time that, like, allegedly, they were giving people like bus tickets and like plane tickets to, like, anywhere they wanted to go, you know what I'm saying? So then there was like a point in time where a cluster of Venezuelan like, I don't know what you call it, people seeking asylum, I guess. Or like, refugees. Yeah. Refugees. Yeah, that's a good word. We're, like, getting dropped off at, like, a specific spot in San Antonio. Right. And then allegedly, I guess I had also heard that a lot of them had like. Well, the word that I heard was like taken over an apartment complex. Maybe I'm getting a Joe Rogan story mixed up, but like. To the point I heard that too. Right? Yeah. And then that was like relatively close to where that's that part of town where that was like occurring that those people were getting, like bussed over here. And then like with that opportunity that was happening and then. Yeah, could you imagine like fucking kind of nuts, bro. That's scary shit. Yeah. That's like the worst case scenario. I don't know how true I don't know what's it to what extent all of that has happened or has it happened. But Yeah, this is okay. So we have. That's the kind of shit that got Donald Trump elected. If we're talking talking. That's the kind of shit that what. Makes you want some change? Yeah, you know that. That'll do it, bro. They're just living in an. Apartment because I'm pretty sure the same thing happened in Colorado. I don't know why that that's coming to my mind, but I'm pretty sure I've heard the same exact, like, story. Maybe not Venezuelan, but some. You know, I'm saying that carbon copy of the same story, but with different characters. Yeah, happened over there as well. It's like, dude, that's fucking wow, that's scary. We're 59, the U.S is 59. According to this website per 100,000 World of stats.com. I'm not sure how accurate. You never know. You never know. That's a sugar company trying to. Get us to. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes it could be propaganda too, right? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. The Venezuelan people could be propaganda. Make us want to vote for Donald Trump. I mean, maybe, maybe not. But it's the. That's what being a journalist is fucking respectable because. That's what the spirit of truth is for, you know what I'm. Saying? Yeah. To discern the bullshit. Because any of it could be fake, you know? Yeah, at any level. Until someone says, I know, like, I did the research, like I went there. I've seen it. I've sorted through all the bullshit. Yeah, the spirit of truth guided me to this thing, and I found him to bring it to you guys. It's like yours we're doing here, baby. Well, I get high. That's what we're doing here, baby. That's the human race. That's the human story. That's why I fuck with journalists. That's why I fuck with lawyers. Not all of them, but some of them. You know what? The idea of a lawyer. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, exactly. 100% like, the that person there and then the judge is like a weird position and now relationship with truth to be like, is your discernment, like, relevant and on target enough for me to, like, change reality right. Now? Yeah. You know. I get I get to determine reality right here. Yeah. Yeah. That job that. That metaphysical. Like being we have it in our society we've always had in society. It's fucking crazy. Dream of reverends put on wigs and. Shit. You can't even beat yourself. Somebody in truth, man, is too big for you. Yeah. Change a hair. Good. What the fuck? Who's coming over here with that? Let me just make a bald. Yeah. Let's just bear the bare naked truth. Yeah. You're sort of in the PR team. Yeah. Judges. Yes, bro. Let's see. I've got a couple more minutes ago. Like, probably 2 or 3 more minutes. This goes nice. Pick up the lady here. A little. Bit tight. Was there anything I want to talk about? Yeah, I don't know. Do you want to do a couple listen to another episode or two? I mean, sometimes we super short one. Yeah. No, we can we can intro this into the following episode. That's kind of cool. Okay. Yeah, I like that. That was cool. Joe Rogan did that. Yeah, it's the lead up a little sneak. All right. Yeah, he sort of has to be a part of the episode the prelude. So this could be like an announcement, I don't know, already announced or anything. I guess this is episode 70. We're coming back with a vengeance. Coming at the tone, holding a grudge. If I can make him make a music. Oh, that's just coming. It's been a lot. A lot has happened. I'm sure we'll talk about it next time. Or this time, I guess later on. This time? Yeah. Next time for us to stay tuned. Whatever we be. Talking about that a lot has happened. For sure. But yeah, man, I don't know anything specifically. The fucking so much cultures have been happening. It just happened so fast. We consume it so fast that the demand is so up tempo that like the supplies, there's so much happening all the time. Or something like all of it's being channeled into our feeds like so much sports news and so much celebrity news and national news and political news. All this shit's gone so much that I, you know what's happened since the last time we talked? Yeah, it's been like 100 days, three. Months and change ish. I have no clue, bro. Just locked in that. Yeah, it was Christmas time. Fucking New. Year's time of the fucking, Thanksgiving. Football just ended. Oh my gosh. All right. You. A lot of shit's happened since our last visit. We'll be talking about it for sure on the coming episode. Yeah, it's a new season. This is a new book. Fresh slate gets chalk out. It's time. If you want to join us on a metaphysical journey through life itself, invite you to a fresh chapter. And with that, join us. Good. Good night. This is for the dogs. This is for the dogs. Love you. Let's keep it going. Yeah, we're keeping it moving. We had a sign off early last time, but we're going to come back in for the continuation. I'll just mention this is for the dogs. I was listening to a back. Nice for the. For the dogs. This is for Julian. It's vivace Tyler. The dogs that are listening to the episodes. Anyone? Anyone. Everyone is for us too. Yeah. Rocking episode 70 deep in it'll be. Yeah for everybody listen. Oh, a new episode. And then they clicked it. And then you're here. That's for you. So. So yeah, that's what's up. That's what's up. Yeah. We do this for bro. That's it. I love it man. Yeah. We were talking about we were talking about witchcraft which I'm like yeah. The most dangerous high criminal or high. What is it. Percentage of crimes. Yeah. So yeah us was like what, 50 something. Yeah. Crazy. Like damn that's trippy. They were also talking before that. Over time, my GTA stuff. Oh yeah. Just rabbit holes, bro. It's just another GTA rabbit hole for a week. So it's on the mind. Dude. Yeah we're talking game. It sounds a little bit. It's good man man I feel like I've been on this kick. I have like I listen to Big Sean's book the go hire book. I listen to that like a week or two ago and like I don't know, the book just caught me in stride, but I was just like, I just, like, revitalized. I feel like it re gassed up, like, refill, refilled up my faith, like gas tank, you know, just get on that wavelength or that frequency. Yeah. And I was on that kick and then on this, I just, I started watching and listening to the because I saw a clip of it on Instagram, but it was a Joe Rogan podcast with, Wesley Huff is his name, and he's like a geologists. That shit is fire gas. Hoping that's how you make gas. Gas, bro. Oh five this it's gas. So everything I've seen past like because now he's kind of on like the spotlight turned up on him. So like, I see him in my algorithm, the. Wesley Huff. Character. Yeah. Yeah. Always fire. Bro. Yes. And I seen some of that shit that cut you off. Sorry. No. You're good. Continue. Please. That was. It. Did you hear. The part on Joe Rogan where he talks about how he got into the argument with, what's that guy's. Car, Billy. Carson? Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's how I started off. At least. I'm, like, maybe ten, 15 minutes deep. And, like, the first half of it, he was just talking about that kind of debate or whatever that the interaction that they had online. Yeah. And then the his, his like crazy, miraculous instance of healing whenever he was like 12 or whatever. Yeah. Well, there's, paraplegic stuff or whatever his loss of connectivity between his brain and his legs did. I forgot about that. That's crazy. Crazy shit. Yeah, that paralyzed for, like, a month. That's that's nuts. And it's miraculously healed itself. It provides, like, explanation as to why he became such an authority on what we know about the Bible. You know what I'm saying? Okay? Not to be an authority on the Bible. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's just like, well, yeah, if you. If God heals your legs, if you like, that's real. I promise you. That's real. Like I'm walking, like I can't quite explain it. Yeah, but it's happened. Yeah, I'm sure that's happened. Everybody's life. So that's listening like we're in some way or another. I think that God is probably like giving you your legs back. Maybe not literally, but like, you know what I mean? Giving you a testimony. But it's harder for us to point at it when it's not something so tangible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. But then I can get it. The I saw some of the Billy Carson stuff where they're having that moment that they talk about on Joe Rogan. Fucking nuts. Dude. Like you body's that guy, dude. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Us. Yeah. Oh, so that's, the lady. As well, because I don't know, it just, like, gripped me. It was. You know what I'm saying? It was like I saw one video on Instagram, and then I remember, like, his name, or I remember seeing it in the comments, and that was maybe like a week or two ago, or like maybe a week plus. And then I remember thinking, last night I just populated in my mind. I was like, maybe I should like look into that episode of like, what was his name again? It was like West, West, something West and Wesley. Something like that was enough. And I stopped in West. Yeah. On the Joe Rogan. Thing that I found it and I was like I said, watching it last night, just kind of randomly. And then it was just like the first five minutes I was just in. You know, saying when your attention is just completely on. Something. Yeah. It's just like, well, encapsulated just fully right now with this conversation. It's only been like a couple minutes. It's like, this is tight. That's good. That's peak Joe Rogan yeah, it's a good episode. You know. Yeah. Yeah. We all love that. And we love that show. I love having a show that does that to you. I was talking to my sister last night. She's like, why didn't you tell me? Dexter was like an 11 out of. Ten go to. And I'm. Yeah, I'm like, I'm pretty sure I recommended it to you, but also, I don't want to over recommend that show because I want people to be like, what? What does this guy relate to this guy? Like, I love Dax. That shows really good. Yeah. He really gets me like not like that. But it's just one of those shows that. Well, and then that's what I'm telling you on the phone. I'm like, it's one of those shows that like, just you could sit down for weeks of of gripping, attention, attention, presentation, you know, like entertainment story. Yeah. There we go. And then some entertainment is just not as like severance. I put it straight in that book. That's what I was like. Lately. I've been like, hey, pause everything. You guys should watch severance. And I think that's a great one to me to do with Dexter. Yeah. And it's funny because without even knowing, they juxtaposed. I was doing that for severance because it's on that different tier of gotcha. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Super, super good, super encapsulating. Yeah. Very encapsulating. Oh, I'm in this bitch. Yeah, I feel like I, I don't I just be like on a wave of that recently with this Wesley Huff thing. Yeah. And like the that Big Sean book. But the Aspen type that's been going on, I think that that's got to be one stuff is just really good. Like some of these are just fucking amazing. You're like on the edge of your seat the whole time. But then the other part of it is, I think your life, like sometimes we're drawn to stories that will help us understand our story, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, totally. I think so, for sure, man. Seen it too many times in my life. Like the influences that you get in a moment when you need to be influenced or like the right influences. It's like a billion books out there. Why do you read any book ever, at any given time ever, you know, It so possibilities. Yeah. Right. Like to for things to get right and also like how often do you read something that gets recommended to you. It's like hard to like. How many times did someone tell you to watch a movie or a show or read a book, right? Listen to a podcast. It's okay. I'll check it out. And you check that out. Never check it. Fucking check it out, Doug. I mean, I. Sometimes. Sometimes I forget what the. Term is that. Sometimes or, you know, that's the thing. What tilts the fence one way or the other. Yeah. Like our friend Tyler recommended severance to me weeks before I watched it. And I didn't watch it because he recommended it to me. But once I was watching it, I was like, I need to affirm Tyler's recommendation. I watched, I guess. Yeah. You were right. You were super, right? But, yeah, things that grip us that Wesley Huff is hardly anyone has done such a fantastic job of making me feel like you can completely trust their like, authority on what they're saying when they're talking about facts. Yeah. Because he like bodied somebody that was like, you know that was a lot of people's boy for facts that were not mainstream media stuff like almost like life conspiracies you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right. The origins of creation. Yeah. Esoteric spirituality. Interdimensional beings and shit. I remember watching, I remember watching, I think I talked to you about it. I'm pretty sure about him. His episode, Billy Carson's episode on flagrant on Schultz's podcast. And then he's also a preacher. He ended up on Joe's podcast shortly thereafter, and I remember talking to you about that. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's crazy, bro. Some rabbit hole. Shit for sure. Yeah. How much of it is true? But it's definitely entertaining and interesting to think about that kind of stuff. Yeah. But now and then he's dude, like, I didn't even know that happened. So never they're talking about it. I like I haven't seen the clip, but I didn't even know what happened at all. But I was able to put myself there in the like. How would that play out with like, this character was this character, and if he really knew what he was talking about and if he, like, really didn't know what he was talking about, I guess, like imagine it was I I'm sure he bodied him. I'm sure he's watching him and he's. Watched that one, one clip of it on social or it was I think it was like one of the first things he, was like questioning him or as far as, like a source of content. Or. Like clarification on his source of content, what he's like, citing from like the Sinai Bible or whatever. Yeah. He's like, what are we talking about? The Sinai Bible, are you referring to, like, this thing? He's like, as if you are referring to this thing. It's like either one of two things I think you're referring to. But if it's this one, then like this is the actual translation. This is like what actually is saying it's going on. It's like that one clip of that just like, oh man, I'm sure there's a whole bunch of that. Maybe not so one sided, but you know, I'm saying. Yeah, 100%. Just like someone might just take the. Book off of the shelf. Yeah. And he's like, you talked about this one right here. That's like the that's insane. I don't know how many times he did that before. Billy Carson kind of got off of, playing one on one full court with a, you know, on facts because that's just crazy. He's like, are you talking about in this one? Well, specifically, we talked about this one or that one. Then he's like, you mean this one right here? It's like, oh shit. And he's like, you talking about this page right here. That's what you're talking about. Is this right. Here? That stuff is funny. That's a rough. To be able to do that. Like a relationship argument. That's what lawyers are doing. Yeah that's true. Yeah. That's funny. The relationship with the truth is. So, like I appreciate that guy so much because his relationship with the truth about, like, the Bible and stuff like that, it's cool. You just, like, instantly probably rely on him. Yeah, because he has, like, a reputation to protect with everything he says. It's like Huberman, you know? Then you're going to trust that guy. Yeah. It talks about scientific studies and whatever's going on with these findings. You know what I'm saying? That's a cool thing that we're able to give to people and let people garner, you know. Yeah. Like trust, be. An authority on something. Trust for real. Yeah. They talk about how we can't really do that with the news anymore. No. Absolutely not. Because we're not 0% now, bro. It's crazy. Over the last 20 years. Shifted. Right. People used to have that relationship with like, their and even. More so like 40 years ago. 50 years ago. Shit. Brother. Well, that's. Yeah. What the fuck? At that point, can you. So many ideas there. But one of them is just that 40 or 50 years ago, we didn't even have the capacity to have a relationship with the news anchor because there's only like 3 or 4 channels. So then people are like they only see 3 or 4 people and then who's the what's the news after that. Your newspaper. I guess. Yeah. Right now people. Talking you. Know the watering hole in newspapers. Dude that was like 40 or 50 years ago. Then it's like we get papers and the papers are gone and we replaced it with a digital tablet in their hand. Rectangles fucked. I know we sound just like Joe Rogan right now, but it's mind blowing just to see it from a different angle sometimes, you know? Yes, 20, 40 years is like we're in that medium, you know, I'm so happy to live in the 2040 year span. Yeah. So weird bro. Yeah. The rate at which things are changing is crazy dog crazy, I guess. Yeah. Because who do you give your trust to? And, like, you don't give it to the news anymore. And that's like, we haven't been the case for a while now. Now it's like shifting heavily into podcasting, which is just such an open. It's just like fucking. It's just a blank canvas, you know? It's just a dead space. Yeah. Dead air. We're talking on it like right now. It's all it is. It's conversation is powerful. You know more. Two more. Gather on my name. God as president. Especially now because we have also the ability in fact, that's that's another thing I was thinking about in regards to like the Wesley Huff stuff was how cool is it now that we have like such an ability, a crazy ability to just fact check things. But then I got me thinking about like, well, who is manufacturing the facts, who's manufacturing the engine that produces what. Facts have shown it is deep. Well, but I. I but either way, we still have some sort of ability to fact check things and like they're right. It's right. It's like a prime example like Wikipedia is kind of like, you never know. It was never a truly acceptable source in school and shit. But I'm like, man, fuck that. Let's just kind of, you know, I think it's I guess there's sources even in Wikipedia of like where they're getting their facts. Yeah, you can check those sources. But like the ability to fact check each other is super like game changing because we used to be listening to the fucking radio or watch the TV and 3 or 4 channels, they tell you what's going on, you read the newspaper lists, both saying the same thing, and you're like, all right, that's reality. Like set that in my mind. That's reality going forward. Yeah. And now we have the ability to be like, you're saying this and this is saying this, that the same thing. But like, let me find my own researcher, like let me go look on. I don't know, other information sources think, That's a game changer for it. And then super cool. I was like, I was able to do that for the Bible and shit. Like theology. That's tight. So tight. That's what's up. Yeah. He spent he spent time. He did the legwork. We love when people do that. Like work. We love when someone's spent years studying the craft. Jordan Peterson yeah, well. Being like us, you know, professor, like a personality psychology professor. And then also like, doing his, like, research on the Bible. Yeah. And like, I'm able to just, like, I can take all that information. Like, I don't have to read any of those books. I could just, like, take his summation of what those books had. Like, I could just take that. As like, nice, fucking nice guys. Standing on the shoulders of. Giants. Okay. There's two things going on here when we talk about this, though. One is like, are they truly an authority? And then the other one is like, do I fux with them? Okay. Because go on. Because someone could be truly an authority, but I don't trust them to represent ideas in a way that I would also say that I would probably represent that idea. Similarly. But Jordan Peterson is one of those people that like just his general. I mean, he said some stuff that changed axioms in my life. I'm like, oh, fuck that. Insert this. That's way more right than what I was operating on. And then they've been like, you know, how often do you get a chance to change your axioms? Right? It's like a difficult like we're doing. There's a lot of shit going on in life all the time. All we're on weird rhythms of, like, like, when we're going through school, you're definitely on a rhythm. I feel like I go to school, and then I'm in the summer and I go to school, and then I'm in. Something I weekends. Right? Guy? Weekends through. Day. Weekend. It's exactly. That's the dance we're doing there. But then there's also a bigger rhythm of like puberty, like just in general, like happening to a kid that's going through that rhythm and stuff like that. And then it's like leaving home like, becoming more of quote unquote, an adult, you know what I'm saying? And like, that's happening to all of us all the time. So with Jordan Peterson, yeah, it's hard to have times like not all of the rhythm with everything you're doing is like axiom changing rhythm. It's like a whole storm that you'd have to cast. And then if like something goes terrible in your life, it's easy to pick up a book and say, I'm going to change my life. But even those times are kind of rare, where something devastating is going to happen, you know? So all that to say, maybe my axioms could still be shaken up and changed as I go forward in life. But Jordan Peterson has just enough times said stuff and like just a way that's like, That way, that way. That like, I generally just trust him. Yes. What? He's talking on the mic, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I sit back and I'm like, that's my dog said that shit, bro. He's got to talk that talk, bro. Yeah. 100%. But that's a different kind of trust, Garner, than just like being an authority on the on the subject. Like, Neil deGrasse Tyson is a person that's like, I guess an authority on the subject. But as far as representing ideas in a way that I feel like I would just generally trust him without any kind of fact checking and stuff like that. I don't know, man. I think he might be like a I think he's like a shell, bro for the science community. You think so? Yeah. They got him. Yeah. Yeah, he's. Heard that before. I think about even me. I heard before either way. But I think he gets paid by somebody to like, like, keep everything chill, bro. Like, you know, nothing crazy. Nothing too crazy is going on. Anybody talking? Too crazy? Just bring it right back to Earth, okay? Science is so much like the whole community is. Well, if it's not proven, you're ludicrous, that you have to prove it like it has to be on paper. And a study proven like we operate off of these proven things. Evidence. The whole thing is, if you can spend your life getting something into this, then we'll all say we adhere to that. That's true. He did the he did the thing. But that makes it difficult for people to like, you know, find out new things because studies are hard to do. And like, there's a fucking hierarchy and all this shit, right? Funding. Yeah, right. It's a whole fucking thing, man. Who controls the funding, right? So imagine you go to school for, like, I want to be a scientist. Yeah, I want to find truth. Who controls the funding? It's so far away from gentlemen. We'll be trying to find truth in college, you know. So science I'm a little out on it just because he's so negative and I've seen him shoot down so many things. It's weird the way he talks is weird. You think so. Yeah I do, I do I think he's too dismissive. I think he's a little too dismissive. Okay. I think what we're hearing is I think Jordan Peterson may maybe have mentioned that in his pod with Joe. Yeah. And in regards to Neil deGrasse. Yeah, totally. Or someone did it. It may have been somebody else, but I remember hearing this conversation brought up. That checks out. Maybe maybe hearing that validated that thought in me of like, I think he's just a little too dismissive, you know, it's like he's trying to make you look dumb for even thinking that going to Mars could be possible. You know what I'm saying? Like that. Yeah. Whereas you could entertain the question. You know, I'm saying you could, like, be funny about it, but he's just kind of like a dick. Like he's like. No, not not. Literally, but like, oh, no, you're absolutely not. Not even close to what could be what it's like. Oh no, absolutely not, absolutely not. Yeah. So people butt heads with him. I think he could do it. He's doing himself. He's either doing himself a massive disservice or. But what I really think is he's getting paid to do that because Bill Nye is so powerful. Billy Nye is, you know, like the idea of, like a famous scientist is so powerful. And then they were like, we got the next Bill Nye, and we'll lock him into, like, a 40 year deal. Yeah. And control the narrative, you know what I'm saying? So, what what is the, you know, Neil deGrasse stance on, like. Aliens and shit? So we get yeah, let's look at that. What is his. What does Neil deGrasse Tyson think about aliens? I guess this is just on my mind prevalently because, one of the recent pods with Joe and those two guys, the names escaped me, but they're just, like, so sure. So sure, bro. I forget the gentleman's names. I can find it real quick, but it was, Yeah. Just people talking about, I think what what they call an AI. Nice non-human intelligence or some like that. The change, the acronym or change the words that we use to describe aliens and AJ craps and shit like that. Yeah. They don't they don't say alien. They call it a non-human intelligence. And that's allegedly what the military or whatever private military. Yeah. So on with it's 20 to 64 Linval Logan and Jason Sands. But yeah, they're just talking about aliens and such. So that's why I was kind of on my mind. But but they believe it so heavily. Like if you have a conversation like, yeah, you. Believe in. Aliens. What are you saying? You think there's little green guys out there? Those guys are, like, so deep that they think they're not racist. Of the aliens. There's multiple different types. Yeah, this is Neil deGrasse Tyson believes that aliens exist, but he wants solid evidence before making any firm statements. He's skeptical of eyewitness accounts. I think that the government should investigate UFOs. No, it's unrealistic to think that humans are alone in the universe. He doesn't believe that the alien abduction cases are true, and he thinks life outside of Earth is likely simpler, like microbial life. Okay, yeah. So it's somewhat open to it. Sounds about right. When went for some. Evidence. Yeah, sure. I'm into it. I mean, science is in. You need evidence. Here's what I want to get to is that those are two examples. Jordan Peterson check. Mark Neil deGrasse Tyson. He gets an X for me. Okay. But Joe Rogan is like I give him such green check. Like right in that like I don't want to just let him talk for me. He doesn't even know me. You ask him something about politics, Joe. You go ahead and answer this one for me. I guess not everything. Not everything. But all that to say, do I give him too much validity in that sense? Maybe. Maybe not. Because I guess he does have, like, a ample sample size. You know. You've listened to a lot of hours of him, so you kind of know what he thinks and know how he speaks and how he represents ideas about certain subjects. So it's like, I think you've listened to him enough and people have listened to him enough to give him that check, you know? Yeah, I'm trying to think about anything. I just straight up disagree with him on. It's weird because I, I always thought the masks were stupid. I'm going to him monetize. I'm sorry. But I'll do it. I always thought the masks were dumb because I couldn't go a single day without masks. Yeah, this isn't like the masses. Know about these fucking sheep out here. Sheep. But, like, I couldn't go. I couldn't go an hour without, like, adjusting my mask. And then, like, your mask opens up. So I'm like, unless I have a dumb perspective of how germs work, you know what I'm saying? Then maybe it's just for the spit coming out of my mouth. I don't. I spit that much. You guys make me wear a mask every day of my life so I don't spit. Okay. Don't pass your spit on someone else, right? But. But just, like, fell off to me, I'm like, people fucking pull it down. I don't get yelled at that guy. It's like nothing. There's holes. An old man. Whatever, I think I remember. Holland did it just like the piggyback on what you're talking about. I remember gaining or having the same sort of green checkmark acquire or acquisition with Joe, like during that time, because I remember, like, the what do you call it, vaccine or whatever it was coming out. And I was like, hesitant about it, you know what I'm saying? And then like, yeah, he had researchers on and people talking about it and such, and I was like, okay, like that hesitancy is like validated it, just that, like, just you're silly for not going along with this, right? You know? Right. I was like, okay. He might be talking some show with it a little. Let's see what he's got to say. But you had that initial like, uneasiness about just like, yeah, say it right. It doesn't feel I'm kind of anti-vax, but you can't because kids get, like, measles and stuff like that. But I don't like the idea of the pharmaceutical company, like saying, I have to put this in your child. Yeah. Because you know what? If one day they figure out a way to, like, calcify their fucking pineal gland at birth? Shit. Right? Okay. That's like a crazy tragedy, but like the idea of that, you know, like the idea of. I don't know what you're doing to my kid. Exactly. Like, I'm not sure. And who are you to do this, you know? Yeah. So then. But you can't do anything about really about babies get vaccinated. But when it was, like this brand new vaccine for me, I had already kind of had that presupposition of like, well, hold up. Like, I don't know what what do you what do you got to say about it? Yeah, you rushed it through to get it to us right away, which means it didn't get clinical testing. Like that's kind of tough, you know? Yeah. And, so. Yeah, so I just kind of, like, avoided conflict with the vaccine at first. Like, obviously not everybody can be one of the first people to get it. I'll be now one of the first people to get it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was like, be able to get it. I don't know what I'll say. And then the Joe Rogan stuff became like validated and then like, because there was a tipping point where the death rates were rising, like kind of exponentially for Covid before things got shut down. And I remember thinking like, you know, if this death rate gets like, right now, it's like 10,000 people have died from Covid, but and then and then I got to take 20, I'm pretty sure. And I was like, okay, so what if it goes from like 10 to 20, then 20 to 40, the 40 to 80, like, what's the number where I'm like, oh fuck, yeah. Right. You know, that's kind of what I was starting to think about. Then they shut everything down. Then they're like vaccine talk. Then I'm starting to be like, I don't really know about this shit. And Joe Rogan was one of the only people that offered an alternative narrative. And then it ended up being what I believe to be like, right? For the most part. Right. Not to get too in the weeds with it. So that's one area where I already agreed with him about his mentality on being active, working out mental discipline. Being an artist, craft all that shit and then to see him like pull something out of life that was super valuable for like, everybody. I was like, oh shit, maybe this guy is a true green check. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I can trust him. He's not going to. Knowingly. Manipulate the narrative for his own personal gain or for the gain of something else, you know? So using a we might disagree by, like, he's he's being genuine. Right. I could trust that at least. Just like he might even be wrong. Yeah. Okay. Because he's been genuine. Yeah, yeah. And it's just a thought experiment. Every time you podcast, try to. Fuck me over. Right now, I'm. Saying, like I trust them. I think I remember, I think Dave Chappelle was talking about this idea of, I. Forget. I forget exactly what when this conversation happened or what, like a time period I'm referring to. But there was a point. I think Dave was on the mic. Maybe it was like after Covid, but I remember it was like one of those shows maybe where it was like limited capacity and like masks only or like, I'm not sure. Or he had to have a like a Covid test to get in. But it was like in that time frame, maybe like early 2021 or 20 twos, I, I could be wrong either way. He was talking about people like asking him his opinion on things, and he thought it was kind of strange. He's like, why are so many. People. Like these fans? Like asking me what I think? Why do they give a fuck about what I think about a political issue A or B or whatever, right? I think it's like, oh, because I think that y'all trust me, even if you don't agree with what I have to say, like, you trust me to give it to you straight into like, not lie to you. And give. You my true, genuine opinion without any manipulation. Yeah, she's like, that's what y'all that I think that's what they feel with like certain people like that. Like certain celebrity figures. That's why they're like super powerful. If you can get someone to endorse you like that. True. Because, yeah, if Dave says. It's good or Joe says it's good, like I'm good with it, you know? Yeah, right. I'll trust it. Yeah. Like a product or whatever. Service. Part of it is, I guess. Like also if you if you tell me what that guy thinks, then I can kind of understand probably how he got there, you know what I'm saying? And even if I'm not going to agree with that, it's nice to know, like that information. Like, yeah, I guess someone that thinks like this with that and they would get there with that. So that makes sense to me. But I don't know. I agree with this. Don't agree with that. You know what I'm saying. It just helps provide more context to know because it's like, yeah, I guess it's like if are we that in need of people who will just be honest that you're like, you start being like, well, this guy will give it to me straight. Like I think there's something more than that's like his body of work and like who he is to us as a viewer. It's like, well, hold on, what do you think about this? Because that'll help me shape my, my opinion, which I need. Like more examples, like my true opinion. I'm gonna need to do some research. So it's nice to have you in my, in my fucking references. Yeah. For what to think about this because it's not an end all be all you know. But if I hear Joe Rogan say something in Jordan Peterson and say something and then like, fucking Lex Fridman, say something, then it's kind of like maybe there's something going on here, you know. At least it's like they're the counter-narrative. So it's like okay the counter-narrative narrative is this. Now. Oh yeah. The what was it called. The intellectual dark web. Yeah. That's something I think of. That's the first time I ever because that was hard for me to conceptualize. Like what you mean the dark web. Dark web. I thought around. In white thought I'm JVP bro. The fuck. Dark blue. That's a light way of talking. Fuck. What the hell are you talking about? But I think it's just because they're counter counter narrative to some degree. Yeah, yeah. That's where it comes from, but I guess. Yeah. What was your original question like, do I win that need. Of someone to be like a truth bearer for us? Yeah. I think so. Kind of. Right. Because if you're like a. If you're the only person who believes something, then you are like, by definition, crazy. Right? You're like the only one person to believe something. Yeah, sure. Right. Sure. We deem you was like a crazy person. If no one else considers what you are, you know, super trying to follow the same truth or you're like a tinfoil hat where whatever. Conspiracy theorists. So I guess we kind of do need someone else to help, like validate. Like, now this makes sense. Like, this is real. Like, I'm not just tripping right here. I'm not just hallucinating or fucking. We need each other to ground ourselves. Yeah. Because I lose myself sometimes. You know, I'm saying. Yeah. True. I agree with you. We need. That's the I like this. Want to try to go back and revisit when the Bible says when two or more are gathered in my name, like, yeah, that he's there for that. It's like what is gathered in my name mean. Right. Because I think we think that it means like church. At least that was my initial perception of that as a child was that that meant like if we gather to worship God together, God will be there to greet us like, no, we'll never go to church and God won't be at church. But I think that also like the idea of us having a conversation and good faith like that, we're going to trust each other to like be honest and we're going to be and we are being honest and we're just like really having a true conversation that might be worth being gathered in God's name means to, like actually presenting ourselves in the world. Yeah. And then and if we're and if that interpretation of that leads to then, then I am there. It's also like, what does that mean for God to be there? And I think it could also mean that, like, we could get to the bottom of truth. Yes. You know what I'm saying? If we hold each other accountable for the perception of our and our reputation of ourselves, then like we can actually, you know, figure things out in the world and that's fire. But not everybody's doing that, I guess, like being honest and truly representing how they think and feel. Yeah. And and providing authenticity. I think it might be more rare. It's definitely more rare in the media. Right. For sure bro. For sure. But people gotta be careful with what they say. Make it a source of revenue cut off or something, lose a deal, lose some, whatever. You know, some sort of consequences and repercussions for not going along. Yeah. Plus there's like Steven's personality is like he's Steven name. I don't know if he can be anything else. You know like sometimes I think his personality probably dictates what he says. Rather than just like, being like, you know, I was wrong or I don't think that way anymore. Or maybe he does that, maybe doesn't, you know. Yeah. I don't watch enough to know. Me neither. But just the idea that you could get stuck to a character. Yes, there's truth in there for sure. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, man. So I think we do kind of need somebody else, but I think, yeah, that's an interesting point because I think it's correct to broaden that out. So you see I think it's were two or more gathered and yeah, just like consciously worshiping. But maybe it's both being authentic in a genuine pursuit of the truth, you know, or could even just be as broad as even, say, two people at all. You know, I'm saying two conscious beings being there. It's like I see you and you see me. It's like, this is crazy, right? It's like we exist, right? I guess we exist. We're in we're in bodies right now. It's like, fuck. That's real, that's happening. At least I feel as if it's happening. You gotta help me verify that. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's. It's like, what is. What is in my name mean? You know, because they would definitely be gathered if we were gathered like that. What is the gathered in my name part? It could just be that we're always under God's name. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Let me see. Oh, I'm gonna look up the the verse. Yeah, I just have that and Google give it a. Google. I know it, it's it sits in my frontal cortex because it was on like a wooden carving in my house. Matthew 1820. Let me see. For where 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name, there am I with them. So yeah, I think it's at a bare minimum, very comforting. But if you go to church, it's like kind of represents the God's in that church, that he'll be there, that you can interact with him or like interface with God. In some capacity, you know, God work on it. But I also think it means more than that. I've been trying to like wrap my mind around what that can mean. And then getting to the bottom of truth, I definitely felt like that presented itself to me, that if we're both playing the game in accordance with our Christianity, then we can have like an optimal outcome. We could get the truth. We can be the heroes of the story. But then I also, then I, then I peeled back the layer of like being gathered in my name. Couldn't like it's gonna sound kind of secular to say this, but we were talking about it earlier today that, like, God finds you, even if you're not like in the church, reading the Bible, like God still interfaces with you and your secular. Life 100%. Yeah, yeah. And so you don't have to necessarily be gathered in literally in his name on your knees praying for you to be gathered in his name. If you're being like a good person, you know, You know, genuinely trying to embody and find truth. Yeah. And love. Yeah. Super true. Yeah. Holding love is the highest ideal, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. So I think yeah I think. 100%. That's that's correct. I don't I was just thinking a little deeper. I was like maybe even by yourself, you know, saying you can find truth by yourself. There are two of you, right. Oh, you're just like talking to yourself and. Like, trying to work some shit out and just, like, thinking about what's the right way to be about it, or think about it or frame it or go about it. Let's see. Action to take. Yeah. You have to. Like you can have revelatory moments, you know, like within yourself. You're like. Oh shit, you're saying. Like this out of nowhere within your own internal dialog. Yeah. So maybe there's even two there in that in that regard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was watching this clip last night. I said, what does it mean to take a long look at yourself like the guy was? It was a whole podcast about therapy. And just like, I guess I would go to therapy and then come back from therapy and then like, talk about what they talked about at therapy and like what the therapist said, and like, break it down together as. Like a therapy on the therapy. Yeah. But they would. Record that conversation as a podcast. So a lot of it's just like super deep introspective shit. And they're like in this open place of, like, working through themselves, you know, so they're like super open to, like, what they're saying to each other. Okay, cool, cool podcast. What's it called? I'll look it up for you. I've probably saved some of it. I watched a bunch of clips last night. We'll shout them out, but therapy pod they were talking about. What does the guys like? What does it mean to take a long look at yourself or like to do some reflecting, like I need, like, I'm like a visual. I want to can I watch, like, a tutorial on how to how to self-reflect? Yeah. It's like, should I journal or should I like. Yeah. Drive down to the beach and like sit out there by myself for a couple hours or like, should I, like, go on vacation by myself and like, get away from everything? Like, what is. How do you go about taking a long, hard look at yourself? Yeah. Yeah, it's a good question. Okay. No. Yeah, yeah. But I also think the answer's like. Not like obvious, per se. But you would have to. It would be something you'd have to do. There'd be some doing to do in that process, you know. Yes. And yeah, driving is great. You know what I'm saying? I'm just I don't know if it's because I'm lazy, but the journaling thing is like daunting. I bought the journal a bunch of times, you know. It's like 40 Journal. Yeah. Then you. Get a package of Amazon journals. Delivered to you. Yeah. What am I doing? The fuck am I doing? What do you need? What do you need? Yeah, what do you what a package of pens. Do you package a filled out journal? You see. That? You feel that in a lifetime? Yeah. No, that's that's bonkers. It's bonkers. Yeah. Anyways, the journaling, I think it helps. You know, I was, I was thinking about, like, writing a book about how helpful journaling can be for your life. I was like, can you imagine? I started journaling and it changed my life. So much so that I wrote a book about how important journaling is. Don't want to tap into that. Maybe. Maybe this is a book waiting to happen. Yeah, right. There you go. Yeah, well, how silly though. Like after this, after laughing about it for one second. The, the switch to just sit down and write, it was like, so they're so prevalent, so much more accessible than it was, even just like 30s ago. It's locked back there, you know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think journaling is a great way definitely for self reflection. That's the only method I guess, because yeah, I guess quick side note was the, that that Big Sean book, the go hire book that looks fucking badass but definitely like rekindled my desire to journal and stuff because I was super about it like years ago. You know, Sally's journaling, meditating all the time. And then at that book, just like re informed me, remember, like reminded me now like, that's just important and you should do it and it's worth doing. Every time I was like, yeah, that is so true. It's so true. And yeah. And so I've been journaling not every day, but definitely like 3 or 4 times a week, maybe, you know, and meditating forever on the same amount of time or like consciously meditating like taking some time out like ten, 15 minutes or whatever I got because I would do it in the sunlight as well, you know, saying it's like part of my routine. When I was in the sauna. You would journal? No, meditate. Oh, sorry. I was lost in there. So I suggest that. No, no, no. Yeah. I just remember it was, important thing. Yeah. In the book, you kind of reiterated. Yeah, I'm meditating a lot. Yeah. He was that does one of like, so his practices, you know, saying get himself right, get that energy alignment here yourself mentally prepared or I guess there's a whole bunch of benefits to manifest or to meditating like manifestation and visualization. Also like the ability to like calm thoughts and not think, and then also like the ability to like open up the thoughts space and think extra like think. Think attention like think through something. Yeah, it's like a whole bunch of different avenues you could take, by the way. It's like sitting down and like just breathing and like thinking or not thinking. Whatever, whatever your approach is, is like worth it helps say, say yourself. You know, I'm saying still the wires a little bit. Yeah, totally. So I think it's definitely like a super, super valuable self-reflection tool. But I think ultimately he was like asking the question of like, what's the vehicle to do it? But I think this one, whatever your I guess your, your personal preference would be with whatever would work for you. You know, if you want to take a drive or goal, go somewhere or journal or meditate. But otherwise, just like, the long, hard look at yourself I think is is achieved through a mental as a mental thing. It's all mental. You can't, like, go somewhere and do it. You know, sign. Right, or look in a mirror. And do it. It's like you need to. It's all in your mind. It's like, take stock of what's happening in your story. So okay, this is my character in my story who are my like primary characters around me? Okay. Whom are secondary characters? What's going on in their stories? All of our stories together. Like, where was my story when I was a kid? Like, what am I trying to do here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like, where to, where have I come? What's going on here? Where do I want to go? What do I want to try to manifest? Like, how is that going for me? Like, yeah. Saying like, what are the things one of the. Best Jordan Peterson quotes is like, just super simple is like, what are the things that I'm doing that I know I shouldn't be doing? And like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and what are the things that I know I should be doing, but I'm not doing and like trying to get those things done, get those things lined up. Yeah. Dude. Like you spend bars, gold bars right there, I guess. Yeah. Journaling is an opportunity to do that. Yeah, yeah. Like I was sitting at my desk, just, like, not doing anything, thinking about how I. I just started, like, plugging things that happened into, like, a timeline. I was like, I don't even know what this timeline is for my life. So I was like 18, 19, 20 months. Like what? What happened? I remember it being like my birthday when I turned 29 and then J Prime kind of like fizzling. And then I kind of being at Crane and then blue and then the new regime, like the no longer opening blue, but opened blue and then briefly MJ 38 stuff. And then I was at blue again. And that's tight, like super, but I don't I was like, what the. That was like a tornado of life just went. Yeah. Through the. Months. Yeah. And I was like having to take in all the chaos and just putting it in order so that I could understand it all and then like, looking at it and then processing that. And then I was taking like that chunk of time and then like applying it to other chunks of time in my life. And I'm like, so that was like when this happened and that was like a whole fucking thing. Like it was also like when this happened. Cheeseman, you know. Yeah, yeah. And just like that helped like to elevate my, like, awareness on my life and my frequency a little bit to, like, navigate through it a little bit better just by understanding it, you know. Yeah. So I think I don't know how many times you need to do that in your life, but it definitely can get away from you. Then go away quick bro. Weeks will fly by. Bro. A week is like I was thinking was on the lady about this, but like the idea of when you're a kid and $100 seems like a lot of money. You know, saying when you're ten, 11, 12.$100, that's a lot of money, it's a lot of money. And then you become an adult, $100 and shit.$100 is the grocery store trip. No one even cover like a full trip at the grocery store. You know, I'm saying not even a 10th of your rent or, you know, it's just nothing. Yeah, Julian was saying he spends $100 a day. Well, it's not a work guaranteed. Fuck. No matter what he tries to do, you're going to have some bills to pay. You got to do some kind of shopping, you're going to eat. You're going to do something because you're some sort of maintenance, like all of the put together is going to result in a Blake, probably $100 less. I'm just like, I never thought about it like that, but it probably right. Some it averages out to that. I'm sure if you don't spend any money on a day off. Right. The next time I'll come around, you got groceries, a big grocery trip. Yeah. Or big Bill coming up. Whatever. So, yeah, the same way that $100 doesn't seem like a lot of money anymore to me. It's like a week. Does not seem like a long time to me anymore. Like a week is a feel, like a long time as a kid, especially like even in high school, it's like. Oh, here we go. Like another was another school week. Yeah, it's fucking Monday. Yeah. You gotta get. To the weekend here we fucking go and take. Forever. You're right. Now it's like a week is nothing a week goes by so fucking fast. Yeah. So if you're not able to take stock of your life or, like, sit down and, like, read the book that is your life, or, like, look at it. It's like it'll get away from you. Yeah. You're like, Holy shit. It's been I haven't, I haven't because I remember seeing that and feeling that when my journal entries were getting like further and further apart from each other, it'd be like 3 or 6 months sometimes of, like between journal entries. And I was like. Fuck me and shit. Like when I would read the last one. I was like, damn, so much has happened between now and then. Holy shit. You know what I'm saying? I suggest that, the passage of time was a little bit more like accessible, perceivable, like if you're journaling every day, because it'll go so fast and you're like, my perception of that time doesn't match, like the calendar day to that time, but you can have, like a marker for that every day if you journal. It's crazy stuff. I call to a cool tool. Tool to use, you know, in regards to the question of taking a long, hard look at your life or like yourself. Yeah, like your life pretty much. Yeah. That like you tangibly like you right now on this body. But like you in relation to your story, what's happening, what's going on in your chapters, the preceding. And what do you want to happen in the next chapters? I think what you're talking about. Yeah. Started out right. Yeah. That's a I don't know if people are asking themselves that or if you just get to a point where you like, struck a balance, you know what you mean? Like, what do you want to happen? You know, what? What have you wanted to happen? And how has that been going? What, like, you know, are you doing what you want to do or not doing what you don't want to do? It's like, I don't know how how often we're taking stock of that. So good question. Right. Really good. Questions. Yeah I think it's important to do it as often as possible. Once a day for ten, 15 minutes. Shit. I guess there's like different levels to it. Because if you only have that much time because I guess there's different, as I mentioned, different kind of like avenues of meditation. So sometimes you could just like, I guess not like take stock of your life or look at the chapters of your life and like a meditation session or in a time of reflection, but you can just, like, get your energy right or like, just like, try to consciously let go of things that you don't need or like they don't serve you anymore and like consciously try to attract a higher energy like, try and emulate and like think about the frequency of gratitude or like have a gratitude practice where you can use like, say, list things you're grateful for and then try to maintain that energy and that frequency and that, you know, saying that, mission and it's maintain that frequency for as long as you can and, like, stay on that wavelength and like, try to manifest more of that, more to be grateful for this whole bunch of different kind of avenues. Yeah. So I guess if you only have a couple of minutes, probably really can't like dive in there to the nuances and depths of your life. But if it's a long, hard look, though, if you have time for a lot, that's like a quick blip. But if you have time. For a long, hard look, then you can look at it in, chapters and like, what's going on, man? Yeah. What happened? Yeah, that's a great explanation. You would across the podcast if you're on there with them. I think they, they got to a similar. Place with. It. Yeah. Yeah. What they say or do you remember I'm trying. Remember. He was kind of I mean, he he listed a bunch of kind of obvious ways that you could, like, take a look at yourself, you know? But, I think he was maybe saying that, like, he doesn't like to, show his emotions. So taking a look inside of himself would be, like, revealing. Because if you're not, like, showing what you're feeling, then maybe you're not showing yourself what you're feeling. And then, like, if you don't want people to know how you're feeling, then maybe you, like, keep it from yourself, too. You know? So if you like looked at it, you'd be able to like, understand and and maybe that would help to navigate like what you want to be doing, what you don't want to be doing based on those emotions, you know. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. That's tight. Yeah. That's cool. Podcast. I, look up therapy podcasts. If it pops up, I don't I don't know the name off for it. Another thing I was thinking about that I wanted to listen. I got kind of lost trying to try to remember the site, but with what we do specifically to then the passage of time is like, what I perceive our profession, like the service industry, to be a place where time flies. If you're busy, time flies by and it's fucking nice because like, I've worked a desk job before where time like drags. Oh bro. Crawling to to all of the clock like. Nails on a chalkboard drag, bro. Just like look again, only 12 minutes are passed. Fuck, fuck. I'm only not even three hours into the shift. Fuck. I'm gonna be a forever do. Let me get a cup of coffee or something. But I can't stand there. I'd much rather be busy and, like, working hard and then time flying by as a result of, like, pushing myself, I guess. That's that's a more fun exchange. It's a little more difficult, but I don't know if I'm A.D.D. or what but it makes life more enjoyable. But I'm doing that. And then on top of that something I learned in running was that like you can't really like, like a song is like 2.5 minutes long. That's like, if we sat here for 2.5 minutes, a dead air, that's like a long time, but that's not even like that. Maybe a fourth of a mile. So you're gonna have to do that amount of time like four times to even get there, like one mile. And that's multiple miles we're talking about. So there's a lot what I'm trying to perceive run. I'm like, so this is something that has to go through my head, right. And I can't sit there for two minutes and 30s of dead air of that run. I mean, I could, but it's like sadistic. And so, like, I kind of, like, trained myself to, like, be out here with, like, my thoughts and my feelings and like my perception of what's happening and like, think about stuff and like, engage with other energies and stuff like that. So that way I'm not feeling all of the toll of the run. And then I'm able to do that at work too, where like I'm engaging with the craft of engaging with the people on our staff. I'm engaging with the guests, and that allows me to stay engaged out here and not feel that I'm tired as fuck, you know? Yeah, but that's a double dipper. Of detaching. From the perception of time being something that drags, you know, okay. And that's making each individual day fly by a lot faster than one normal day would fly, because I'll be like, wake up, breakfast light work outside. Okay, here's my day. And with this day, I'm going to run through it. Yeah. Like this mentality though in the service industry for sure. Right. Let's fucking get through this shit, rose. Fucking go bananas right now. You know what? What's taking them? So I'm like, I'm getting itchy over here. I want to get going. And then most of all, we want to get out, you know? But then sometimes I'm like, okay, I to do like 3 or 4 more times. So I need to get out and get to bit, take care of everything here. Let me, let me get some sleep and then wake up and just be you. And then I guess we're also doing like 50 hours of that closer I would say on average. So that's like more time engrossing on the rest of the week that we're living on. Pew pew pew pew. And then we did that for like so long that it like, fucked me up. I was like, how. Much time passed? What the fuck? Hundred days? What what did I do with that? What did I do with that time? Like, what do I tangibly have from that time investment? You know what I'm saying? I guess. Okay, what not tangibly do I have, you know, trying to just take stock of it all because it was it was kind of jarring. Yeah, bro. Yeah. And then that's when I realized like all that time perception. So all of that to say, I think you can be like an alchemist of how you perceive time, okay? Like you have to strike certain bargains with the life you choose. But to some degree you could. I think we can slow down time a little bit. Maybe not all the way, but at least a little bit by just like how we interact with life. And I want to do a better job of maybe trying to slow things down a little bit. Yeah, 100%. And there's only so many things you can slow down or it's like it's it's fleeting bro. It's fleeting. Yeah. Cherish it. I'm like fucking fleeting, but. Yeah, you're flying through it, man. I remember talking to my brother about this, actually, on this weekend when we had our parties engaged, our bachelorette kind of bachelor party in the engagement party. And so of I'm talking to Christopher about it on, I think Saturday night when they came down. And then I think we had mentioned it even before this, but he was like, you missed like, enjoy this, man. It's going to be awesome. Like, just hold on to this. It's like, slow this down right now. Slow the pace. I wish it perceiving life to happen because it is happening fast. And everyone as the older you get they always say it goes faster and never slows down. So on. And unlike feeling that happen as well, like in real time with in regards to how I perceive a week now to happen. But yeah, he was just it's a, it's a mental thing. Yeah. Like take the take a conscious effort to just slow down and enjoy the moment. Just be there, just be present like, oh man, this is good, this is good. And then your mind wants to like, travel to not make it not good necessarily, but to like try to perceive the risk or to like where like the pitfall, where's the what's the next danger I need to be thinking about to overcome, to not like, be hurt in the future. It's like a job, you know, it's like part of our mental capacities job is to, like, plot out the threats, like, for, for forever. We've been doing that. So, like, I think part of that might, like, take us away from the present moment. And then in doing so, we kind of lose the cherished ability. Yeah. But now, thank goodness we don't have to like, worry about jungle cats and shit. But now he's got other stresses and anxieties to worry about that are lurking in the unknown, in the in the dark. Yeah, total. Bills to pay and shit or whatever is going to come up. But yeah, just like it takes a conscious effort, it's hard to like just cherish it and say, don't worry, just be here and enjoy this. Yeah, it's difficult. It's hard. Oh, it. Sounds simple, but it's. Hard. It's hard. Oh I'm in there. I'm fucking two I'm maxing out my caps this go around bro. I'm like, I feel the call to reshape the axiom or to like I'm like a higher level experience person shaping this axiom. So I'm like, I think I can get myself to a place energy wise where I'm like, cherishing my time now. Difficult as fuck, right? Difficult as fuck. Yeah. I think I'd have to really like beyond point with how I'm managing, how I interface with life. Because if you're not careful, it's like you can be I can be doing like living my days, wasting a lot of time, you know. But I think just being in tune with how much time you're managing and not wasting it and then like knowing to try to slow it down when you can. I mean I'm sure the movie, the movie always ends faster than we want it to. If it's a good. One. Yeah, right. Right. So it's like damn near impossible. On some level. Right. But there's got to be times where we can just slow it down and enjoy what's like, right in front of us, you know, taking time to slow it down. Gotchu. Yeah. Gotcha. That reminds me, like a Black Mirror episode. Inspiration I had for, like, we gained the ability to, like, fast forward or, like, pause time. You know what I'm saying? Like click. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But it is like a they're like integrally connected. So that like the amount of time that you fast forward and the amount of time that you pause have to be equal to balance. Like the time spectrum or whatever the fuck. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So if you're not careful and like use like pause all your time in some bullshit and you have to like fast forward there like the important parts, oh the things that you want to cherish or vice versa. If you're like, fast forward and through all this shit, you won't have the ability to pause and cherish things that are important. Yeah, you slow down for the last ten years of your life on accident, but you like have cancer. Yeah, that'll be terrible black marriage stuff. Yeah. Something like that. You know I'm saying yeah. There's is truth in there. Student. Yeah for sure probably I mean you know what if there's there's karma involved in that okay. Like because I spent 18 months on pew. Pew pew pew pew. Like to balance me back out or to like equal and opposite reaction. I have to go through a period of time feeling like slower, you know. Yeah. That could be like, unwritten law of the universe that we don't perceive. We just go through, you know, like, like a gravity that we don't we don't have physical, tangible stuff to see, you know? Yeah. Science can't prove. Yeah, it could be. There's all sorts of stuff. But. On a fundamental level, I believe that what you believe to be true will become true for you. So you shouldn't believe stuff that's a limiting factors on a different fundamental level. I believe that like Jesus Christ is the is the way literally. And in Jeremiah 2911, God has a plan for us to prosper. And I just believe that you can believe that if there's an optimum path for you, there is a way for you. And if you were to craft your own perfect outcome with all the factors taken in, you would have crafted the way to. We're just like, way too dumb and we're not blind enough. We can't see it all. Yep. And so like on faith, you have to trust that that's like actually what you would want. And and I just want to pursue that. And I don't think that life would ever fuck me over because I was pursuing that. You know what I'm saying? I don't think I'll end up in a click scenario. Yeah. You take yourself out of the equation. I like your egoic desires. You know, I'm saying say I want these things. But ultimately I want God's will. I want, you know, the path, whatever. That's how we conceptualize it. Yeah, I want that thing more than anything else. It's like, so worthy sacrifice. You sacrifice your whole freewill. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like parts like the. It's like a. It's a catch 22. It's like being a human. It's like you have free will, but like, the more the thing that you would, the thing that would benefit you the most with your free will, given the free will, allows you to think and do anything you want, the thing that would benefit you the most, and that would be the most ideal for you, would be to sacrifice that thing and give it to a higher power, or to like something else outside of yourself. Sure, you know, let's say we make it as rappers. We're on as fuck. We're on like we go viral, okay? And then we follow up with an album to our viral because you got to keep the fire hot. And then that album just like to the Moon to Mars, we're on fucking Saturn, right? Love it. And then we we're in the spot talking about a sophomore slump. I'm trying to say Juan Berkeley on that ass. Like we're good. And and then we're presented with, like, if you really love this thing, then you should sacrifice it and do something else with your life. I'd be like. Are you sure? Like this is talking to me right now. This God. Because that that would be that would be tough. It's it's a little bit easier to sacrifice something that I don't. That isn't my, like, purest joy pursuit. You know, it'd be hard to sacrifice that thing. But if I was truly asked to, I'm sure that we'd find a way to do it. You know what I'm saying? Find a way to do something else. But, you know, that's just something I was thinking about when I was, if you love a let it go, it's like my dream job, I would let it go. And like a worthy sacrifice. Like maybe that's like a higher echelon of understanding Jesus the sacrifice, you know, but not I think like, you know, Snoop Dogg doesn't have to not be a rapper or who's a good movie star, like, I don't know if Matt Damon has to give up acting to fulfill his higher glory. Maybe one day, but, maybe it's unrealistic. Ask. I think life just is steering us towards that. The way once you get on the way, I don't think you have to sacrifice the way to stay on the way. Right. But Abraham kind of did. That's what makes it crazy. That's some shit right there is the. I guess, the willingness to sacrifice. Yeah. That's the whatever you conceive to be the way, you know, because we're living beings, you know what I'm saying? We don't know everything. We don't know how it's all going to work out. Yeah, I perceive all all of that is a lot to digest, but I just simply perceive it as just trying to do the right thing, like, as much as I can. And then when you do the wrong thing then do the right thing by realizing that's the wrong thing and then trying to do a different next time. And then, then it's just kind of one foot in front of the other just trying to do the right thing. I was thinking about that, that or that particular phrase is like one foot in front of the other, maybe think of like, I don't know, I had like a faith based visualization like pop into my mind in regards to like walking forward on like the faith walk, you know, with like no bridge in front of, you know, steps in front of you and like the only way to have a step generate in front of you under your foot where your foot is going to go, even though you don't want to, don't know where to put your foot. It's like, just walk with that full confidence and like be walking hesitantly. You know, I'm saying it's like a I'm not sure what the visualization was exactly. It was like tiles or something, you know, saying like earthing steps being put in front of you as you're walking. And the only way to generate the next step is to let go the current step that you're on, even though you don't know where the next step is going to be versus like a faith walk. I'm just like. Well, there's truth in there. That sounds like something that they want to remember who it was. I wanted to say Thomas, but I'm not sure if it was Thomas, but when, he was walking on water and then he's like, you doubt it? Like you look down, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And and that's why you couldn't stay on the water. And then that's like a always a heartbreaking moment for me, the reader, because I'm just like, oh, like to let Jesus down, you know, he was doing it. Yeah, he was doing it. It's tough man. Miss a layup in front of Jesus. Oh man bro I mean I do it every day. I'm sure about it all the time. Yeah. You know we getting. In there, man. But, but that's what that sounds like to me. Like an allegory of that almost pointing straight to it, you know. Yeah. It evoked that same feeling evoked. Yeah. I feel 100%. I'm not sure why that popped into my mind, but just putting them on today. I think those things are something. Man. Those things are something, bro. Something man. Like I wake up with songs playing in my head. I could just be like the reverse of a dream. You know? Like, my brain's, like, subconsciously digesting life and then projecting it into my imagination, you know? That's that's Bible. It doesn't necessarily have to be, like divine stuff. I had this really weird lucid dream involving Big Sean 8 or 9 years ago. Nice. It was weird, though, dude. Where, like, you know, I get some kind of opportunity to hang out with Big Sean, so it's, like, shocking. But I'm expecting it, so I'm not, like, freaking out to see him. And then I think, like, I do something and I'm like, oh man, he's going to think I'm lame for that. And he's like, this, this fucking come on, man, let's go back to my crib. And I'm like, oh fuck. You know, like, I, I don't mean to look like a loser in front. Of Big Sean. Oh, no. Whatever. And then, there's much there's more going on, but these are the only things I can really remember other than just how fucking lucid it felt. We go back to his crib and we're going to go do something, and like, I'm looking at his house, and then I kind of lose him for a little bit. And then I travel through this, like, mansion mansion. And then I get to, like, a bathroom attached to a master bedroom. And then he's, like, chilling and like a Jacuzzi, like, set up, but it's an ice bath. And then he's like watching TV. And I walk in and he's like, crying. And I'm like, oh, this is kind of sad. And he's like crying about, like his ex-girlfriend is like, either picked it up on it or I'm not sure exactly. Just drop into your thought mailbox. Yeah, yeah. And I was just like, this guy's kind of a pussy. But no, not Big Sean Bleep that I love you. So I love dude. More than anything. More than anything. This is a weird dream. This is. A dream. This is this is mental subconscious projections. You are my favorite rapper for sure. I'm not sure he's actually that. I think I'm talking about myself to some degree. Okay. It's like walking in my own inner matrix of like my most higher self, and then maybe seeing myself, like, be something I wouldn't even dream. Like I'm like, what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, you are doing this. Like, why? You know what I'm saying? And, it just stuck with me so, so heavy. And I remember being like, all right, well, I'm going to, like, see myself out of this, so let me do this thing, you know. Let everybody see you. You clearly need a moment. Yeah, yeah. And it was weird. It I don't know, it just like I felt like. And then it was weird. I was like, oh, man. I thought, I let myself think I was lame because he thought I was lame. I was all like, oh, he's going to think I'm lame. He has the appeal. He has the ability to make me think that I'm lame. Yeah, that guy's got some shit going on. I was like, oh, actually, like, I ain't got no authority over lame. Yeah, yeah. And then that's kind of like what I remember from the dream, but it was super lucid. You ever have, like. Yeah. Crazy lucid dreams that make you feel like they're more meaningful than other dreams. That's weird right. Yeah. But I think it's going to happen whenever we take a little break from the multivitamins I think whenever lent comes around this year. Nice. I remember whenever I would or that, that stopping of the smoking and then that coincided with like crazier more vivid lucid dreams. Yeah. But I remember for sure there was one where I was like, I forget the setting. I wasn't like a whole. It felt like maybe I'm trying to remember it now, but I know the key details, but the tertiary details are I'm losing them. But it was like a hotel or maybe like a casino lobby or something. But I think it's more like a hotel because there was a whole bunch of games and lights and sounds and and shit going on, but it was like the same sort of carpet look and feel and vibe of like a casino floor, but no machines, more like a hotel lobby. And I was like, walking through this lobby. And then I see like, a jester, I'm pretty sure is like, like not egging me on, but he's like, presenting himself to me. Then I start following him, and then I follow him into, like, a movie theater and then the movie theater is just like, there's one chair with, like a it's like a one like a royal red chair with like, gold trimmings. And then like, I sit down in the chair and then like, the lights go down and the fucking curtain opens up, and then I'm like, oh, shit, I'm. It's like, watch my movie or like, watch the my life. I think I'm like, this is like the chair where in which I observe my life. And like, the screen that I'm watching is like my life playing out in front of me. But like, this guy who sits in the chair is a different guy who was like, actually in the movie itself, you know what I'm saying? That's not super crazy, lucid dream. That's nuts. One of the let's start. March 5th. I'm pretty sure I'm into that. Yeah. That's fire. Yo, say, listen, dreams are weird, bro. Dreams are weird. Dreams are fucking weird. I remember, like, coming to in the dream, for sure. Me like, oh, I'm, I'm awake. Like, I'm. I'm alive right now. I'm here. I'm in this weird dream place, like, what's going on here in this weird dream place? Who's that guy? What do you got to say? I'll follow you. That's that feeling. Definitely gonna stick with you for years. That feeling of like I'm here in the, It's like a DMT trip or like, I don't know. Like, it's. It's weirder than that. So you're literally stepping outside of reality in that moment. Like, conscious is being conscious. Not in reality. Not in what we. Yeah. Our normal day to day shit. Yeah. That's fucking crazy. Strange. So maybe that's why it's such a trip. Yeah. There's something going on there. Trying to reveal something to your subconscious. Your conscious subconscious. We don't even know, bro. We're just. We're trying to figure it out. We're just getting through this life in through. Garbus. Yeah, hopefully. Because the man I got to read that book. Fucking love that guy. Yeah, I highly recommend it. Definitely. I like listening to it. It was on Spotify. He listened to it. He's the one who narrates it. Nice. It's so. Nice. That's probably partially it, as well as the way I was, like more powerful because I was like, listen to a big song, you know, and just talking to me about his life and shit. And I was like. That's my dog, man. That's fucking dog. That's fucking golden. I got to get that. Yes, bro. That's one recommendation I will take. Yeah, I'll say there. So we're going to wander down a little short episode, a little mini black bear black today. But we're back in this routine to be nice. Get back into the swing of things. We saw. Recording on Monday is pretty much every time or whatever, you know, I'm saying. Yeah, bro, get. Back into our regular scheduled programing of 30. Eight. And boys and girls. We fucking stop it this time for nothing. I can't, I can't do it. Yes, bro. And we have we did have I think that one song in the works. Tonight we recorded with Nick Red hot. We have that one in the works. There was another beta I had at verse two and probably another 7 or 8 beats that I've made a long time ago. And I'm saying listen to those trying to get some bars going. So we guess what music come in for real. Soon. We're going to shape up and. Dance in the studio. So it's 2025. So we've released music. We're talking about it every year since 2022. So it's been 22, 23 and 24. And now beginning of the year, it's like, all right, we got some job 25. Let's go. We're gonna drop some shit. Fucking bro. Come on bro. Yeah it's always with the monster. Fucking volleyball man. We got we're going to do it man. We're going to fine. Everything's gonna work out. Everything's gonna work out. Dude, I had a crazy moment to end the podcast. Quick story. Yeah. You remember the last time we hung out? I was telling you that I woke up with a song in my head, and I couldn't quite remember what song it was, but that it was really trippy to me that that's what I woke up with in my head. This was when I last time we hung out. I kind of told you off camera, that's the song I keep waking up with songs in my head like, unbelievable. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that one for sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, that. I started that by trying to tell you about the one that happened that morning, but in the moment I couldn't remember what the song was. But I remember the unbelievable. And so I just bridge to that part of the story. Got it. So then I get home and I remember not being able to remember with you when we finished the beginning of this podcast, and then I was just like, man, the fuck is it? Like thought about it, thought about it. And I was like, I guess I just have to like. And I'm walking to my desk and I'm like, I guess I just have to like, let go of trying to or thinking that I can figure this out. Like, I'm not I'm not going to be the member. And it's annoying to say, like, I couldn't do it right then. And then as I'm doing that, I scroll down on my mouse because I'm on the YouTube shorts. I just have it paused. So I just scroll down to like, get the cue going again while I'm cooking dinner or whatever. And then literally right there that the song starts playing and it's a little way and he's like. Let it all. Work. Out. And oh yeah, I love that song, bro. Yeah, really good. Right? No, it, yeah. Yeah, I woke up that morning. That song was just, like, blaring in my head for 30 minutes before I realized, like, I woke up with. I have not been able to stop having the song played in the background of my mind. Where is the score coming from? Like, I didn't set this. This doesn't happen every morning. It's like up a song stuck in your head. So yeah, it's trippy. And then I was like a I was like, trippin hard when I was just like, back on the, I don't know, boom. Hit me like a truck. Do you want to call you to call him a fucking ton of bricks, bro? Yeah. Yo. So get right to my face. It all worked out and it all worked out. That's how a song is. I'll never forget it. I was tripping one time with. I think it was a coworker. We used to have a mic at Leno's. Emily, one of Victoria's, like best friends, bridesmaids. And, we did like a habitat for humanity or whatever. And then we just, like, chillin and smoking and talking and then had music in the background. And then I remember telling her about us, and then, like, just, like, telling her how crazy our stories were and like, how the kind of like, equal and opposite with, like, your mom and my dad, and it's like you're on the East Coast, I'm on the West Coast and talking about that kind of shit. And then like that song was playing and then like I finished saying what I was going to say, and then I was like, just ending my spiel of us with, like, I was like, yeah, I'm not sure what we're going to do. I'm not sure how it's going to happen, but it's all going to work out. And then like then Lil Wayne, she's like, and it all worked out and she's. Like, whoa, I'm tripping right now. Full fucking mushroom moment, bro. That's I was that that was probably like four years ago. That's so far. But so far yeah. So I kept me for one two. Woke up for are you woke up with it all worked out. Unbelievable. Wow. Yeah yeah it doesn't. Oh manifest that shit. Oh yeah I'm into it I feel the call I feel the call. The wild. So it's just. Let's go y'all. It's we're locked in. We're gonna be back in this beast. Long story short we're rockin 38 everything socials Instagram MJ 38 Justin Matthew more things coming. Everything's coming with love. You guys have a great rest your life. 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