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The Strange TRUTH About "Remote Viewing" | The MJ38 Show #79
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Welcome in. Hello. What's going on? Last time we didn't welcome you in, so I thought we'd start with the welcome. Welcome in y'all. Welcome to the Water Spa as a warm episode. 79 AMG 38 show. Matthew and Justin here for you. Let's be here together. So good to see you guys. Enjoy this life. I hope you're having a great week. If you went to church, I hope it was awesome. Hope it was fantastic. Happy may. We're 33 or over a third of the way through this bit. It's 25 every time. It happened so fast. So hold on tight, y'all. Hold on tight. Tight. Wrap up the story I was telling off camera where, listening to a song. Dirty soul blues, jazzy songs. Awesome. Coming up on the access road. Feeling it's my mom's birthday. She passed away. So I'm kind of like navigating the waters. Of letting myself feel cathartic where you. You feel kind of sad, but it feels kind of good because at least you're. Alive to embrace those emotions. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Be a human. And, and this memory flashes in my head, tells me, hey, don't floor it. Because last time you flooded it right here, you lost traction and you almost crashed really bad. On Access Road going on to a highway. Yes. Yeah. And so I didn't floor it. And I just look over, man, I hear it now. What I hear is bang and I look over. And the way this car is moving in the lane, I'm like, they have to be crashing. That's not normal driving behavior. But my brain is also like, there's no way because I was just visualizing when I had crashed and literally like one second thought about that. The next second didn't accelerate. The next. I heard a bang, the next second looked over and I'm like, there's no way. And sure enough, this car just, slams into the wall, continues to go because it was going fast as fuck. I guess spinning around in circles hits the wall again a little less hard. Oh, and I was just like. And then also it was like a scene out of a movie where, like, I'm just driving music, going crazy. You just look over like I just felt so. And then what do you do? You know what I'm saying? Call the cops might be short, but at that moment I was. It was on the other side of the highway. So I just, like, kept driving. I wasn't going with you. You weren't merging onto that. It was like a on the opposite. Yeah. Spectrum. It was on the other side. Okay. Got it. And, I, that also I couldn't figure out the physics as the car was traveling the way that I was traveling. Yeah, it wasn't going the other way. It was like. So I think maybe they turned on or they turned into a part that was actually closed off. Like where the workers were, like, parking their trucks and stuff like that. Sometimes on the highway. You see that because I don't know, I couldn't explain it to you. It was so out of place. But like, the car was traveling in your direction of travel. But that was like the opposite. For what? Like for their lanes. And my visual, I think there was like a middle compartment in between the two lanes that were traveling opposite directions. Because he wasn't in my three two lanes. I was 1604. Yeah, but he was going our direction with traffic, like you're saying. What the fuck? So I don't know, the super fucked up. Yeah, he could have been. He just got, like, rear ended and spun out backwards, I guess. I don't know, that makes no sense, I'm telling you. But it was. Him. You telling me that felt. Weird as fuck. None of it. Yeah, buddy. Crazy moment. Right? Yeah. And so, I don't know, it just felt so. I felt so tapped in, in that moment where I was just like, what the fuck? How did I like. I saw that seconds before it happened in my own mind. So yeah, if you're not careful, that'll happen to you. Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Whoa yeah, I was I sense that you were just thinking about that. Those consequences and that type of action happening like a car spin out. Yeah, I don't Florence cars. Cars spin out. And you're like, oh, shit, there's one right there. Crazy dude. It's the timing of the thoughts and the reality. Yeah. And the feeling associated to, like, playing a song that's like a movie score. Like, literally. We found it from House. We were watching the show house, and then there's like, at the end of the episode, they're playing the song and it's like real dramatic and cathartic and we're like, dude, download that shit. Fucking Shazam that. And then so just like, put me in that mindset of like, this is like a scene out of something and then boom, boom, boom. And I was just driving like, I don't know, man. Whatever that feeling is, sometimes I just want to pursue being that tapped into life. That in line with the story. Yeah. For for focusing on being an open like receptor for like intuition or the vibes or whatever. Your intuition big time or the ability to, to see what's going to happen, you know, or at least have a good sense of what you think. Could it be happening based on what you've thought and then how things are moving? I was like, I feel that way a lot during like shows and movies because I'm we're always just trying to figure out what's going to happen next. I guess sometimes you could just sit back and watch, but now I don't. I mean, you know, maybe there's everybody, maybe that's just me. But whenever I'm watching a movie or a show, I like to try to figure out what's going to happen. You know, that's like what we're doing, you know? Right. I'm not trippin. Never was watching a show. Or do you, like, sit back and watch it? I don't think you can just sit back and watch it. Can. You know, there's a lot of times where I'm trying to figure out what's going to happen. Yeah. Or you're like, what's this mean exactly? You know. Yeah. Because that's also digesting the show. If there's things that are foreshadowing, to digest the show properly would be to appreciate that in the moment, not just like in the afterwards. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I think. Yeah, I think whenever I'm watching shows and movies, I can get into that zone of like figuring out what's going to happen, at least, just like based on super subtle, like context clues that I'm able to try to pick up, which when I'm watching it, or it's like there was a then, White Lotus, we started watching White Lotus. We've season finished seasons one and two, and then we're on three. Nice and amazing right? Yeah. It's a it's good. It's solid. It's super, super super solid show. It's so chill. But it's like it's amazing. Yeah. The whole time I try to forget what's gonna happen. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's all that shows because it always starts with the seasons. It's own sort of storyline. There's a couple character crossovers, but more or less each season is independent of itself, so they all start the same way. And it's like a similar premise every single time. But with different characters. But the premise is always from the beginning somebody, somebody dies, you don't know who it is. And then like, you get the the city. Are the episodes in the season are figuring out how they got to the point to where somebody dies and then disclosing who who it was. Yeah, totally. The same thing every time. But like whenever I was just watching that season three episode one, I think, and then there was a part where the guy was, one of the, one of the characters he's inquiring about somebody saying, oh, did she have why would she have a husband? And then some was like, yeah, he was, he was here. But now he's he's not here anymore. He's a he went back home to Bangkok or whatever and he's like, fuck. And like just from that, you know. So I was like he's probably sent there. I don't know, I don't. Know yet because like, why exactly. Like in my mind. I'm like, why did that happen? Why was that his reaction, what's going on here that could create that reaction? I'm like, maybe he's not there on vacation in Thailand, maybe he's on there, or maybe he's in Thailand on a mission and doing some work related stuff. And he's like, supposed to be getting this guy. And then he just missed them because he thought he was gonna be here at this hotel. He's not he's not here anymore. He just. He just left. So then that could create some frustration within him. But he's also not professional enough to not say fuck in front. Of the, like. Worker that he asks. So that's like there's another layer of nuance on it. Yeah, yeah. Contract killer. Obviously. You know, silent assassin disappear. Businessman. Yeah. Well, what's going on here? I'm not even sure who he's there with. Is he there with his wife? Or like, he's intrigued or like he's his wife or she's his wife? It's weird. I don't know, was going on. Yeah. His thing. But I'm not sure if everybody does that. Yeah, yeah. No, I grew up in a house where that's what we were doing. That that's watching a show or watching TV, you know what I'm saying? I can't really watch. I can't really have stuff in the background either. You know, it's like some, like, I see, like what I'm doing working on the computer or I guess there are many situations where people would just have a show on, on the background. Or. I guess while they're doing whatever. But even when I'm working, like I've tried it before, I just put on, I don't know, like The Office or Modern Family or something that I don't really have to be super engaged with to like, find the nuance and enjoy watching. But like, even then I don't because, like, I want to give my attention to it or you know what I'm saying? And it feels like it's more taking my attention instead of like, being a subtle thing. Or even if I do on a podcast, I would feel like I want to listen to the podcast. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Versus I guess there's some things you could do on put your body on Autopilot and then still perceive everything like an audiobook or a podcast. But if I'm like doing work and I have to like, be focused on the computer or like focus on playing or whatever. Are you like silence? Yeah, I just I locked in, yeah, that's locked in. But even when I watch shows, I can't stop thinking like that. It's like, why are the things playing out this way in some, some, whatever show it is or what's going to happen next? I'm looking for the first shadowing moment. Yeah. I'm not sure if that's everybody. If I'm just. I think that's properly digesting the show. I think that's what watching TV is. I guess more or less what you're saying. Listening to a story. Yeah. Truly being engaged in a story. Yeah. Right. Where your brain is like following step by step. Because I guess, like, the protagonist is also wondering what's going to happen. And that's like a life, you know. Yeah. So I think and then that's the game that White Lotus plays is they give you little breadcrumbs, little clues like they, they, they throw you for a loop. Like why did he say that that was put there to make you say, why did he say that. To create mystery. You know what I'm saying. Exactly. And they do that with like a lot of their stuff. That's why they start with the murder and the juxtaposed with all these people allegedly going on a vacation. What you think would be like happy, relaxing. Yeah, someone's going to die. And happy relaxing. It's like, oh shit. And then no one knows. You're like, oh shit. Like, who dies, who kills them and why? Yeah. And the stories are told in such a slow unraveling to, like, make you wonder what's going to happen next. You know, like, Well, I don't want to. Spoilers. It's a great show. Great show, worth a watch. It's awesome. But it's the way we. Watch it is is right on the money. There's another thing too, is if you if you know what should happen, then sometimes what actually happens hits different because it's like if someone has, there's a lot of foreshadowing that someone's going to die and then they don't die. You're like, yo, that's crazy. He definitely like, should have died. It's like, what's the story of someone not dying? They should have died. It's like the story isn't enhanced and you can tell, I think a more nuanced, like truth. If you are able to play with like, karma or play with the idea of, balance or like because most of the time how someone is acting in a show is going to be what happens to them in the show. If someone's like a good guy, good character doing the right thing, they usually end up like winning or being okay. And someone has really bad karma in the show. You're like, they're cruisin for a bridge and like, it's going to get them. Yeah. It's like it's like, almost every show, every movie is like that. Breaking bad, for sure. Yeah. Right. And Game of Thrones type shit. Right? So yeah, no matter how bad did any part of you want want to get away with it? A little bit for sure. Yeah, right. For sure. Oh my god, for sure. I'll try to explain that to my dad. And he's like, that's not breaking bad. Like, you obviously want wall to get stopped by the end of it. I'm like, not really. I know this is a big thing. Get in, get the money, get out clean. That's been the mission the entire time since season one, bro. Yeah, that's every show. That's everything. You know, like all the bank robbery movies, the Ocean's 11, the fucking need for speeds. Fast furious. That's like a lot of the what we're hoping the protagonist gets, you know, does his thing, hits his lake, or whatever succeeds. Accomplishes the goal that they set out to accomplish in the beginning. Yeah, whatever that was. But I guess, like, somewhere along the way, I guess you're supposed to realize that Jesse Pinkman was the real good guy on the show, even though he was like, allegedly more of a scumbag at the very beginning, I'll say, yeah. They started off on opposite sides of the spectrum, but then like. Rotated throughout. Yeah. So that's supposed to supposed to be the it's like when the, when the good guy succeeds in and gets away with it. That's like when Jesse is like screaming in the car. That's that moment like when Walt dies, that's the bad guy dying. It's like, you want that. You want the good guy to get away, and you want the bad guy to die, right? It's like, so then don't tell me you wanted Walt to live at the end, bro. You don't know what you're talking about. And I'm like, damn that. That's good. He's got two stories, bro. You know what the school of the learn how to tell stories better on some level. But I definitely felt that throughout the entirety of watching it. Me two definitely the first time, it's. Really what I feel like. Come on, Walt, same thing with fucking. But you know, you know, he's he's fucked up. Better call Saul. I'm hoping he gets away with it, too. Like, I'm. Hoping he can, like, turn the plane upside down. And Denzel Washington, I'm hoping he gets away with it. That movie too. Yeah, yeah. At some level, yeah, but, maybe it's just some protagonist. Just when your heart ache, when Walt says someone knocks on the door at 2 a.m. and gets shot. So you think that of me, I'm like, you know, I have no idea. Knocks. I'm like, oh shit, I fuck with. This guy jumping bars. I'll try to follow this guy. But like, obviously he's a bad guy, but he won my heart. That's the that's the. Yeah. And he starts out so sweet or like, you know, relatively sweet and innocent trying to do something right for his family and make sure that if they're okay when he's gone and just fucking dealing with the circumstances of life, the unknown, unknown, even unjust, you know, the randomness of, like. All right, never saw the day in your life premise of Breaking Bad. He gets lung cancer, never smoked a day in his life. Just a little chemistry professor for high schoolers. And now he's going to die in the next whatever he's got terminal lung cancer. Yeah, right. Yeah, a lung cancer. So he takes that information and then it's like, all right, fuck this. I got to do something before I'm out of here. And that's very much all premise of the show. But so he starts out like in that vein, you know, it's like I was trying to. I. Was trying to do some shit here, man. I'm just trying to handle circumstance that's been dealt to me in the best way I can and make a mark before I leave. Leave something for my family. And you're like, come. On, man, do that, man. Yeah. And it goes from that to like. I am Heisenberg, bitch. I am the one who knocks. It's like, oh man. Yeah, he kind of lost his soul a little bit. Yeah, I think that's something I have to drink on some level. Okay. Yeah. So I think it just he just hit the point where he was Heisenberg and it's like, we need you. We want. We needed Walt. Nothing was the same. Walt. Yeah, that's good leather. Come on, man. Yeah, I'm just thinking about trade because I think, champagne poetry might be one of the best albums I've ever heard. Which one what's it called? Not called champagne poetry. But that one seal CLB, right? Yeah. Certified champion poetry. It's the first song on there, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Okay. It's got everything. It hits. It's got. What do you want? It's got everything. Yeah. Trust I know that trust I know it's like I can think you got. Okay. You want to be switch. You got champagne, poetry. What, you want some some deep, gut wrenching soulfulness. Listen to fucking fans. The switch up on that song is you insane? Then you got, get along better. Like, I don't want to try to sing like him because he's got Auto-Tune here. He cheats, but, like, just pouring his heart out, like at the top of his lungs on some parts. And it's just, like, emotionally, like, we'll pull you in. Then it's like, what do you want? Bars. You only live twice. We got that. You want like hip hop. We got Rick Ross on a song. CLB yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got a fair trade show. Scott I fucking love that song. Amazing. I miss you. Too. I love that song. It's guys. It's got everything, bro. No friends in the industry. I love that song. Make it like there's so many different. Like other types of hip hop songs that I like. It's got one of all of those, pipe down. Pat downs. Great a. Love all. Raise my mind, bro. Like Raised My mind. Probably one of the favorite songs on the album. It's just so it's so tapped into a true relationship dysfunction that I can relate to in such a Drizzy way, which is my favorite way to relate to anything from from that emotion, from that feeling of like confidence. Success is like, but like I still have problems. These are my problems. But I'm obviously the confident winner that can handle it all. So it's nice not to be like, oh, I'm the I'm getting crushed by these problems. I'm a loser. Yeah. It's like now even full blown savages have these problems. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So you can't escape the problems anyways. But then it's like, where do we lose him? Well, how did you go from, like, Scorpion? I thought that was one of the best albums I'd ever heard. I love Scorpion, so good. Certified Lover Boy, maybe the best album hip hop album. Like if I had to pick one to listen to for the rest of my life, I might pick that album. Damn. Let's go. It's fucking good. And but now we hate him. Like, I don't know. If we hate him per se. He definitely lost in the perceived battle. Between post World War two. Dude. Yeah. Dude. Between him and Kendrick, Kendrick. At least it's also social. My perception of the social perception of what happened between those two rappers was like, Kendrick one. And I know Drake's like, he got the Super Bowl, bro. He got everyone in that fucking stadium screaming a minor and call him pedophile like this. That's that's pretty wild, bro. That's pretty deep. That's very deep in the hip hop beef industry. Yeah, I. Don't like saying I like Drake anymore. Yeah, right. So something happened. There. What do you like? Pedophiles. You know, I like Drake. You support Canadian pedophile. Send certified lover boy. This is America. Nothing was the same. What's that album called? I'll keep forgetting what the albums are called. Yeah, that was the same. Yeah. Okay. Those are the second one, right? When was this, like, him in the sky background? I thought nothing was the profile. This is a song. Title two. Right. Nothing was the same. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just a different song. I could be. Hit if he uses those bars in a couple different of the songs, like. A. Of that. Nothing was the same album. The, I said, I'll be a dragon. No, no, no, that's what I'm saying. What's going on? Yeah. No no no no, because I heard a. Guy sounds great. I heard a guy do an acoustic guitar cover of that song, or he sang it like, almost emo guy. And it was fucking hard. I was. Nice, though. So it's a dragon. No no no no no no no, that's the beef. Yeah. That was the same. Yeah for sure. It's called nothing the same. Right. Okay. Cool. Getting old. All right I remember what these albums are called sometimes for this thing. I think they made those moons for this thing. For anything vampire fan. I mean, I know, let's dig in the Rolodex. Regardless, but maybe it's just a natural. And maybe it's like a Paddy Mahomes Steph Curry type shit where you're just run in the fucking metal for too long. Tom Brady disease some people don't like you run the metaphor too long. True. You know, I think that that partially played into it. So maybe we were looking for Drake to fall and maybe some people within the hip hop industry and can and community for sure had the belief that Kendrick is a better rapper, quote unquote, or lyricist or whatever it may be. More true, more. I'm not sure what it is, but I was running this shit. Yeah, he was winning and he was winning. Whatever metric you want to use, you know, it's like with Jordan, it's easy because he's got rings and Tom Brady's got seven championships. Whatever the championship metric is, I guess Grammys or billboards or week on number one or streams, money, whatever. They don't have. One. Whatever it is, there's some sort of metric going on there. I'm not sure. I think it was just kind of common knowledge. So I'm not sure exactly how Drake was winning or his Grammy to Grammy like artist. Comparison with other people in the industry. Your wifey, your wife. You want. He talks about it all the time. Right? So like he. Was just running the shit for a while. So anyway, like Penny Mahomes, people want him to lose now. And like Steph, I'm not sure if people want Steph to lose a sweetheart, but people are rooting super hard for Steph. Maybe some people are like diehard fans, but some people probably who are not as invested. Maybe if like if your team is eliminated in the playoffs, I probably don't. You probably just want someone else to win, you know, then the person who's been winning the whole time. Yeah, give someone else a fucking turn. Right. Different to happen. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Something different happen. Yeah. We don't like saying Yankee. Yankee, Yankee five years in a row. That's boring. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Yeah, but it's the truth. Someone gets to the top and they dominate. Usually Steph did it more. Paddy Mahomes did it. Drake did it. So I think it might just be that partially playing into the way that people are, the way that people have perceived him now. But he's a little bit different or feels a little bit different. After all the beef. Just he crossed the line, I think when he made her last two, or he was just like, fuck these bitches. Like every song. Well, he's just like too much of a savage or I'm just like, what is? I think they're making trying to make more like trap music, maybe. But it's definitely like. Got that 21 influence. Yeah, yeah. But it's a whole lot of stuff I don't want to embody where I'm like, I don't really want to be saying this, but there's other parts of other albums where it's just like, so fucking true and he's doing the thing, but he's not like, I feel like you kept evolving. And then at some point he evolved into like a red eyed, fucking scary black dragon version of himself is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't burn the city down. Holy shit bro. He's like, oh, it's like, yo, you should have stopped somewhere. He got there. You were in a sweet spot, a certified lover boy. Sweet spot. Was that before or after her loss? Before. Right. Yeah. Certified lover boy. Her loss. And then the third one was. Honestly. Never mind. Yeah, that was just be kind of like a tragic trilogy of albums. Kind of. Yeah. The honestly never mind stuff is crazy. I don't know, it's it's a lot more like EDM house music for sure. So I'm not sure exactly what the art is. There. Maybe it's like, go crazy, go to crazy, chill out, I don't know, rebalance, I don't know, but Yeah, it feels weird. I guess to your point, it feels kind of weird to mention. It's like I still fuck with Drake and people are like, he. Lost the battle. He's a pedophile. What are you doing? He's old news. It can't be like that happened a little bit. Yeah. Totally. Right. Totally. It's like, yeah, I cracked I don't I maybe, maybe I'm like, is this, is this me? I just got old over there. I'm old now. I. You can't drink beef. I got old like the rest of the world. Is just like Kendrick is the guy like. But if he came out with Luther, bro. He came out with Luther after that bitch dog. Oh he did. He played that mission a Super Bowl dog. I can't even fully appreciate it, because I've only heard that song like, one time before I heard it at the Super Bowl, but I knew I was like, oh, this is a song with Scissor that goes hard. That's all I knew. But yeah, I listened to it more, more so afterwards, like a the following weeks, I was like, oh, this song was fucking bananas. I think that song is the longest running number one at the moment in 2025. This year so far. Song banks. It's perfect, perfect alignment. You gotta have a song that does well on the radio about the streamers and on TikTok. Buh buh hey thank you, thank you. Multiply. He wins. He wins in the. First 30s of that song. You're fucking in. I'm in. Yeah. Oh, he's going off right here. This is awesome. I don't know what it is about that just not then. And then and then and then and then, that's not. Anything crazy. No, it's not, you. Know, crazy flow. No. Crazy like intricacy with the fucking delivery. This is very like that. And and and and and and and and and and Which is a little bit nuance to. It, you know, with a little bit of. Fluctuation in the cadence. But it's not he's not breaking ground. It's just fucking good. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry. It's a fucking good song. Did that just come to him one day? Yeah, I think so. Yo, names that make him multiply it. Yeah. So then that's kind of going back to just wanting to be open to gut intuition and stuff like that. Yeah. Open myself up to, Luther to find. That bar or. Yeah. It's like because it's it works like an, a gradient. It's like once you're if you're really tapped in and really open, it's like you're not just like one step closer to maybe writing a good song. It feels like you're like a lifetime closer. Depending on how far you get. It's like it's so different to being tapped in versus being just kind of like cold or however you to describe it, you know, I would think, like emotionally burdened, distracted, sped, closed off energy wise. Yeah. Well, yeah, your energy's not. Maybe you're not harnessing the fullness of your energy potential. You know, maybe it's. Yeah. You're being energy is being diverted through distraction or not even like distraction. Maybe like necessary life thing that you need to give attention to or whatever. Right. So I'm just going on for real. For real. But if you're able to, like, take all that and keep it for yourself or not, keep it for yourself. Exactly. But you know, to harness at all and to like fucking go super saying like. Goku is like, yeah. He's like, hold on, let me bring all that back here. It's like, come on. Yeah. And then you're like, tapped into that intuition or that it's crazy because you were talking about this. This is a guy on Joe Rogan who's talking about the ability to, like, have telepathy or like, go somewhere mentally. Yeah. While being in the same place physically. Yeah. And like, actually see what's going on in other parts of the physical world through a mental capacity that we all have. Well, I think I think that doesn't make sense to me as far as, like we have an imagination, whatever the fuck that thing is, we can go to it. And like, maybe it's different levels of imagination and we could like travel through that and like whatever. But I, I say that has the same like the that I mentioned in the show last time, Stranger Things during the D&D episode, but like, that's like part of the premise of that show too, is the government was running experiments to try and access that place, and then whenever they're accessing that place, they, like stumbled upon something that they shouldn't have. And like, it's like, the Upside Down or like the evil force or like the reciprocal of our world here. There's like an underworld and they're like, tap into it and piss some things off and that, like, we're connected to that underworld and that we're having to deal with that shit. But it's like part of that. What, like a Eleven's like the main character or one of the main characters, for sure. She's like the one who's like, had the experiments run on her and she has like super powers to a degree. But part of the super powers is if she goes into like a sensory deprivation tank or like water with the whole bunch of salts in it, or Epsom salt, whatever it is some sort of chemical balance water to get her to float on top of it and like meditate more or less and like lose her sense secondary or surrounding sensory input. She can like clever her eyes getting that water tank and she can travel to other places and see what's going on there. And those like part of what they were trying to do to like, see, like spy on Russian government officials or who they're talking to and try to get more Intel information for government type shit. But as part of the premise of that show to them and all that to say, it's cool that other people are thinking about this kind of shit because they're makes sense to me at least a little bit. You know, I kind of follow that abstraction because I believe in that other place, that intuition is a real thing. You can, like, pluck stuff out of the fucking nothingness, and then all of a sudden, the thing that you pluck out of nothing and then say the word strawberry milkshake. It's like someone. Like, dude, I was just thinking about. Ordering strawberry milkshake right now, like I'm. Atwater Burger or whatever. Yeah, yeah, like the timing of. That shit is going to fuck somebody up. Yeah. If you get in a zone and you do it like 3 or 4 times in a row, you're like, this shit's real, dawg. That's like the knowingness of it. Is that other place is going on, you know, like traveling to. It. Yeah. Then you come back to this feeling and you're like, what was that like? What is that? Is that real? This guy on this podcast makes it sound real. I'm like, bro, there's times when you fucking know. You're like, ain't it dog? It sounds when I'm playing basketball in that thing and I'm just like, making everything. I'm like, it doesn't mean I'm not thinking about any of it. It's just like it's it's not a body mind thing. It's like just staying on the rhythm, staying on the vibes, staying. And then even just one bad thought can throw you out of there. Sometimes just. Fragile. Yeah. Yeah. It is fragile. And I think you could be more fragile if you're not like fortified like in the Harry Potter movies and the books, Snape has to try to teach Harry this thing where he, like, closes his mind, like, so like I assume, Aquaman. See something like that, okay. And it's like Voldemort has a pathway into Harry's mind. And so if he's not. Because what happens is, is Harry has a dream that Voldemort is going to attack Ron's dad, and then he tells everybody, and then they go save him. And then he realizes, like their minds are connected. But then they realize that Voldemort realizes that their minds are connected. And then they're like, let's teach you how to do this thing so that you can stop people from going into your mind. It's like a magic. It's basically like a forcefield. Yeah. Like, like a forcefield around your mind. Yeah. Or like a meditative, like looseness. Or it's how I visualize it so that, like, something can't get in there, you know, like, there's nothing to penetrate. It is like, still. I guess I was thinking about the opposite or, like, fortifying it or like fucking making a fortress. Making like a like a metal encasing around it. Yeah. Nothing can penetrate. But then that, that also makes more sense too. It's like make your instead of like being a solid as someone can enter and penetrate. Make it like a fucking gas, you know, like how are you going to corral the gas? Like I'm just part of the atoms in the air dog. Like I don't exist. Yeah. It's crazy. It's very different. It's very different. Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know, I don't think they describe it as one way or the other. It's kind of like this meditation thing where he has to, like, not let him in. Yeah. But like when I. Think about the desired outcome is just preventing intruders into your psyche. Totally. Yeah. And I think that's you have to do that in real life too. Yeah. To not lose your, your touch on the pulse of what's what's happening outside of you. Because it's real easy to just, basketball, get upset, like, start talking shit. Even if I start getting too excited, I'll lose it. Got to really stay zen down if I get, like, too competitive with someone who's getting real physical and I'm like, don't fuck this. Get up, I could lose it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I really just got to be like and in my own rhythm or like, that's why I like playing with the headphone and sometimes because I can just, like, stay on whatever this is, like, I'll just be saying, this song is dancing in the corner, you know, like nothing crazy but a light little emote, you know, just like I don't really care. I can feel it right now. Like dance on three. Like there's another ten out of seven. Yeah, that's a little. 2 or 3. It's like they're arguing on the foul or whatever. And I'm just like already sweet. Give me that rock bang. Let's go. Yeah. Crazy. Nothing crazy. Now just having a good time as soon as I start being like, oh, it'll leave. Yeah. Be careful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, this sounds like something that will I shit. But I just watched the whole podcast on it not being shit. It's weird being like I was. I, I spent like years thinking that this was the thing. And then it turns out like we were right. That being tapped into the wave, feeling wavy, feeling like a psychedelic level of intuition. Yeah. Serendipity that we. At one point I thought to myself, I should live my life to be a conduit for this thing. Like I should create my habits and rituals around making myself as open as possible to life's influence on me so that I'm not fucking on my own life. I'm just going like where my gut kind of tells me to go, what feels like the right thing because it's like what? What we see isn't what it is. It's like things can look bad, but they're good for you. Things can seem awesome, but then they're terrible for you. It's like, what do you follow if you don't know what to trust, you know? And then this guy is like on a podcast telling you that I think maybe that's what church is telling you sometimes, you know, it's like to do the right thing or to follow Christ is the way and the truth. And the lie. So how do you follow Christ? Like, I guess you try to learn have like an idea of what that means through study and then also like following the intuition of what's right and wrong, you know. Yeah 100%. It's a, it's a feeling thing for sure. But it's also you gotta be careful not to do the because it has a feel, it feels right. It's like right. Like you had mentioned that and that was that sparked that in my mind, this thought. But because yeah, you can't because what you see is not what is, you know, and and vice versa. It's like you can't there's there's another realm going on here. We have imagination. We all know that imagination is real. We all have dreams. Dreams are real. Like sometimes you don't remember them and sometimes they seem so random that you have no no idea even had. It's like possibly dissect it or give any meaning or gather any meaning from the symbolism behind your dreams. But like we have them, like they're not. When someone says, I had a dream last night, you're like, what the fuck is that? Like, everyone knows who that is. So we all are in agreeance that this dream place, this place where we can close our eyes and imagine something you can daydream to. You don't have to close your eyes, but you can like, visualize and see things that aren't here right now. It's like that place is real, and that place is, maybe that's just like the doorway into, like a crazier, grander, infinite, infinitely, infinitely more complex and gargantuan version of that little imagination dream perception that we have. Or like, maybe that's like a whole different realm that is going on regardless, we at least have those two places, our imagination and our dreams. Those are real, for sure. Irrefutably so. Everyone knows what those are. Everyone can do it, at least for the most part, is anyone that you think they can't like. So if I imagine a strawberry, imagine a purple strawberry. It's like, how many people can't do that? I think there's people that don't do it naturally. That's not how they visualize the world. But I think that everybody probably can. Oh yeah, make it. I can animate like a gif if I want to. I can make it dance. I can hit the nugs, bro. Like, yeah, it's got a strawberry with like, fucking stick arms, like Mickey Mouse hand gloves and like some stick legs and it's just fucking. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, exactly. So we have that place. That place is real. So regardless of what you say about the fucking. If we're like the woo woo woo talk of, like tangible non tangible or here not here or like another realm. It's like it's another dimension. It sounds crazy when you put it like that, but it's just like factual. Like that's what's going on here. There's that other place and we have this place. And whenever you're able to bridge those gaps, or maybe we are, maybe we have a, a line just like inherently attached to that place. I guess we must because we can do it. You know, I'm saying if we couldn't do it, maybe we would be like, like cut off from that place. But we can we can visualize in our minds, see things. We can go to a beach in our mind right now, if you wanted to just imagine a beach, like, feel the sand, feel the heat from the sand on you, unlike your back. Feel like the towel, the the linen fiber of the cloth on the towel on your back. That's on the beach. That's on the sand. It's on. It's hot sand from the sun. Waves are crashing in. Seagulls are. Like you can go there. You can go there right now. Dude. Yeah, when we do that. That was crazy. I, I think everybody got there from your description. Yeah, you can just go there. Is that just an etch-a-sketch? Like, you could just draw things in your mind when you're bored and then just erase them there. Like, how does that is? I think partially, yes. I think we have a connection to that place. And then I guess that place also, maybe it's a two way street to that place, because sometimes you could draw the thing with your own mind or like with your own conscious intention of imagine a beach. And then sometimes it's the opposite. It's like sometimes you'll just get a vision or something, like a thought of a milkshake or a thought of a, I don't know, like a protein bar or something. Or maybe you, you'll perceive something from that place, and then you get it in this physical realm, in your mind, in your in your imagination. And you could like, play with it how you want to or try to interpret it how you want to, or dismiss it completely or trust it completely, I guess. But that's just going on that that's real, but not even like woo woo anymore. Like that's just happening. I'm not sure what's going on in that place, but I think that's where the intuition comes from. Maybe it's one of the two way street kicks back the feed back to you or just a line of communication really. You know what I'm saying to and from maybe we get some information from that place and maybe whenever we're tapped in, we're able to meet halfway, or maybe we're able to interpret the signals that were like the Morse code from this imagination imaginary, non tangible realm. We're able to, like, interpret the message correctly or interpret the. The thing, or think about the thing in the proper way and handle it. And then we receive information, we digest and handle it properly, put it in its proper box, or use it in the proper way it needs to, and then like it results in a serendipitous moment or something like that. So I think that intuition that that's just real as hell. Yeah. You know, it is. It is. I think it's easy to say that it's not real if you don't have experience with it. Same thing was probably like the Holy Spirit or God or something like that. So like if it if especially because life can feel so flat sometimes it's like there is no like outside help. It's like there are these like cold, hard steel bar rules about life, and no one can escape that. But then there's other times where it's like you are experiencing something different and, and then, you know, and it's like, that's why it feels so crazy. You're like, oh my gosh, it's insane. My mind is blown right now because it's normally we live in this like as like flat like is earth just like ground and gravity and there ain't nothing crazy going on here. It is what it is. Yeah. Like science makes it seem like science is real and magic is not real. So what is magic? We talk. What are we talking about? Fucking card tricks here. Or like being able to know someone's going to call you right before they call you, like, dude, it sounds like crazy person, but I swear to you, I know when someone's texting me, it happens. I would say 80% of the time I get this like, I have a thought of that person. Like I think about notification. Yeah, just pop into your matrix. It'll pop into it like a, like a like a thought about like like I should have, called them back about this or whatever, or I'll be like, maybe like, I was trying to work things out with the babysitter for next week. And then I was thinking to myself, like, I had texted the babysitter and then texted a lot of people on the shifts, and then my brain was like, nobody texted me about a shift. Yeah, and it's been a while since I texted the babysitter and like, as I'm thinking that bloop, the text from the babysitter and it's I'm just like, not even surprised anymore, bro. It's like something, something will occur. It's not like they're calling you, but it's like a thought happens. Some kind of they come into my matrix and then I think about something with them, and then it's like Julian's calling me and I'm like, oh, you know, like like this morning. Oh, yeah. Just like Julian didn't call me back last night. That was kind of weird. But maybe he was just passed out sleeping still. No no, no, no, just don't call me sorry. Ross passed out sleeping. Like, what the fuck, dude? It's crazy. Yeah. The intuition. It's a real place, man. I think you can make yourself more susceptible to it. I'm not saying I'm doing, like, a great job of doing that. Or maybe my proclivity was higher. Or openness is a trait that allows you to see that more often. That pathway of a little more. Sure. Just have a base that without work, I don't know, but we have it a lot. I think it's flow state engagement is a lot of what will allow you to get it naturally without like having to figure out how you're getting that. It's just like when you're doing something that you love to do and it feels good and you're really enjoying it. You're just crushing like that. Maitre d on season one of White Lotus. Yeah, it's like, what does he say? What? He leaves the floor. He's just like. Then I was like a ceiling. But sitting in my fucking life, just seeing the guests for dinner and walking around saying hi, pulling out chairs, pouring some wine. Yeah. All smiles. Hitting a spin. Move around a waiter. Yeah. Dropping the menu off. Yeah. Like that. That. That vibe, that electricity that'll let you, like, know stuff that you're, like, outside of yourself. Maybe it's why I don't know. I know exactly why I'd write a book about it. Yeah. I'll get there. Yeah. I think it's. No, I think, I think we're just we're just we're talking about kind of an abstract thing, literally. But I think we're we're we're we're hitting some, we're hitting some shit because I think you remember you were saying a thing that I went off on a tangent about something else, but you had mentioned that, because we're not we can't really see what's going on between us and that other realm, like what we see here is not exactly reflective of or maybe indicative directly of what is actually happening in the metaphysical realm, or like the place that the place that precedes this that gives us the ability to have imagination and life at all. Maybe something's going on over there and we can't see exactly what's happening. Translate it directly across. So we're going to remember we're making our best guess. And so we have to do what feels right or it has like that. What we are gut feeling is inclined towards is like always a good indicator. I think it's been scientifically proven. Or maybe I've heard, maybe I've just heard this. Maybe it's not even true. But like your gut feeling is typically right, like more and more often than not, I like 60% of the time, 70% of the time, whatever it is. But it's more often. More often than not, you just go with your initial feeling of what the right choice is. Yeah, for the most part, if you have a good orientation, I'll see that thing too, because you mentioned. Yeah, like you have to be able to feel do it feels right or feels good. Maybe that feels good because like feels good can be like positive pleasure. But like maybe it feels right is a better a better way. Looking at it maybe like if you've attuned yourself to want to do the hard thing naturally, then you would feel more inclined to do the hard thing anyways. And in that instance, you would do it feels good, even though it's a harder thing then maybe like feeling right. But we have to have our own perception of what the hell feeling right is and what's what are we oriented towards and what's the what's our guiding force in that? You know what I'm saying? Because if you yeah, if you're doing what feels good, that's like the in the moment, you know, moment to moment or in the singularity of this moment right now, what feels good. So I shouldn't be doing that. It's probably a different but it is. It is feel good. Yeah. It is feel good or like gives you like more meaning, gives you more happiness meaning. It's just like meta happiness or like happier than happiness, deeper than happiness. So whatever gives you like more meaning and purpose and that feeling of magic or you know, where, like, the world's not flat, this shit's crazy. Whatever gives you more of that shit, maybe you'll be able to get your gut feeling attuned to that thing, and then your gut feeling will naturally kind of put you in that direction, because you can't. We don't know what's going on here. We don't know the fullness. No, we get a sliver. I think there's a piece of your brain that can go into the quantum and say pertinent information, pertinent information. And what you do with that is like that. That's a whole different thing you got to figure out. But your intuition just being the sensory thing that you have that like, and if like time, people say time is a flat circle, right? So everything that is happening has happened, is happened, will happen. It's all happening right now at the same time. But you just perceive time as like. As this moment. Right? So it's like, if that's true, then it's definitely not out of the spectrum that we could perceive things that are happening right now but happen later in the now. Yeah, yeah. And it should be like this is pertinent information. This is pertinent. This is pertinent. But then like you have to be able to that's why it reminds me of like a seer from like Vikings or Game of Thrones. There's no Syrian Game of Thrones, but it's like they always go to the seer. And then the seer tells them, like information, but then they're like, what do I do with that? What does. That mean? And then they're like, he's like, I don't deal in meanings or whatever, you know, like you can't help them. Actually, here's like, here's what you should. Do, just gives you a dream. And this is like interpret. It in more or less. Yeah. Like that's always what it is. It's never a true this is what you should do. It's like here's here's a riddle for you to solve. And I think that's kind of intuition is like we get it's like pertinent information. It's like someone you love will betray you. It's like, well, that's like always true for everyone ever. You know, it's like, well, it's also true for you. Like, I don't always watch out for that. And then they usually end up thinking like, oh, it's going to be my lover. It's going to be the one that betrays me. But it's like really a twist. And something happens that they didn't expect. It's like, oh, the seer told you. You could have expected it. Yeah. It's like, no, but I couldn't like, oh, I actually going to the Seer to try to find out distracted me from being able to see it happen in real time is usually the how the trope plays out. Yeah, right. Like you never should have gone to the seer in the first place. You're overthinking. So that's kind of what intuition can feel like sometimes. Maybe it's like a metaphor for translation for that. Sometimes. But. We can't do I think we usually can't figure out how to follow that pertinent information. Yeah. Based on the gut feeling it gives you. It's like especially if you're aligned properly so that good things are appreciated, bad things aren't appreciated. You have your red flag says red flags and your green flag set is green flags. There you go. Yeah, that's a red flag feeling for sure. And I have a typically I have good red flag feelings in my. My red flag radar or whatever. Yeah. Or like when how do you trust somebody. It's like that green flag feels genuine. True. Yeah. Right. I remember that about whenever we came back to the spa after we had left for those months. And then it's like, oh yeah, this is employee right here. She wants to get hired or she I guess she did get hired. And like, I guess like she's here to do paperwork or maybe get like a final interview with, you know, what? I was like, okay, well, and hire this person. I think you get a feel for them. I seem to, not a full story. I gotta formalize second interview. Exactly, but just. I need to get a feel for this person. I think I talk to them for, like. Two minutes. I guess. Check the green flags on the red flags. I'm not even really looking for any answers or questions I need to ask them that are really pertinent. Like I said there, you got the job, quote unquote. But I think you get a general feel for who this person is and like, yeah, look for the red flags and the green flags and it's not even. Yeah, it's not I guess it is. It could be translated directly to dialog that they say or answers that they give me or the way they present themselves. But like the body language and the just overall feeling is more, more intuitive. You know, more like telling. Yeah. At least for the most part. Yeah. I think we all have that at least a little bit where, like, you can feel someone, you can feel a general vibe about them. Yeah. What is that? Right. It's not a sense now like touch and taste. No. It's all. Yeah. It's something that's beyond our. Yeah. The five. Whatever. We can't taste it. You can't touch it. Can't. You can feel it. It's like temperature but it's not. It's not the thing. Skin contact. You like tactile. Don't have that that sense overly developed. Then maybe that's it maybe got have it. But it's just different levels of development for each person. It's just that in the video game. If you were like someone comes up to your friend group talks for like five minutes and leaves and then in your brain you're kind of like, well, that guy's a douchebag. And then one of your other friends is like, oh, I fucking love that guy, man. He's the best. And you're just like, what? That sometimes I'm like, well, maybe it's like, I don't get it, you know what I'm saying? Maybe I'm like, I don't know this person well enough to. Not have enough information. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But then sometimes I feel like if we both encounter someone, like, maybe we both went to a restaurant and then the server was like, I don't know, had like an attitude or kind of weird energy. And then they leave and I'll be like, Grace, that guy was fucking like off, right? She's like, nah, he was great. What are you talking about? My sister is usually on the same page with me, but I've seen there's times where there's like a disconnect where people don't know what I'm talking about. And I'm like, I don't think I'm wrong, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, I'm willing to give, like, the benefit of the doubt before. That's that's a judgment, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, Maybe I caught him on a bad day. Yeah. You know, you never know. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's funny, because, yeah. The opposite will happen for sure as well. Like, everyone's been there or like, where you're you're talking to somebody and then somebody else enters your, your dialog and becomes a trialogue, the little triangle. And that person dips back to your regular dialog. And then the other person is like, man, I fucking hate that guy. That guy's so annoying. And you like, right? Yeah, yeah. So we definitely. Know that's that's a feeling for sure. Yeah, definitely. It's like, maybe not even what they said at that particular moment, but it's just like the iterations of annoyance across time that has led this person to be like, God, I guess fucking annoying dude. Yeah, there they be. Yeah. And then they could be completely separate instances. Or maybe someone could say that it could be like revelatory to you. They're like, do you like the new kid in the school? And then you come in and then someone dips off in the same sort of way. You're talking to somebody. Third person enters a chat, leave the chat, and then you're just like. I don't know what it is about him, but I just fucking hate that guy. And then the other person who's like, been at the school is like, nah, dude. Yeah, everyone hates the fucking guy, dude. He's like, oh, okay. Thank God. I'm like, I thought I was tripping. Yeah. I thought that was just like, maybe interpreting this. Falsely interpreting the reality of what's going on here. Yeah. It's like, well, I was I thought I was being a little over judgmental or I was a little I don't know what it is, you know. Yeah. Because we want to be give. The benefit of the doubt for the most. Part, not cast judgment. Most people. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what it is about that guy, but like, yeah. Yeah, he definitely has some sort of something going. On. Yeah. I don't know or whatever. So yeah, we're feeling that. What what is that like an. Intuition. Right. Or. Yeah. Like you were feeling his energy but they know from experience. Like it's a weird sort. I don't know what's going on there. We're doing something though. Yeah. It's tied into the same intuition talk or you know. Yeah. Tapping into another realm that's not here physically. Yeah. And a lot of times we're making gambles. Right. Like if you talk to someone for 30s, you're kind of making a gamble on whether or not your intuition is right about them. But I think that sometimes we get to where we're just hitting a lot of times in a row, and it gets pretty crazy because we're just like, dude, I'm fucking tapped in. Like, I know what's going on around me. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Right? That's it. Yeah, yeah. Because we're making a gamble every time we read a table, because you don't really know that. That table is like what you think that they're like when you're reading them. Yeah. You think they are like it's it's checking the boxes. Like, let's say like, it's like, okay, let's say it's like three business guys and they're dressed really nice, written Rolexes. They started off or they just, they got there and the first thing they want to do is get a few lamb chops and oysters, and they don't even look at the menu like, my brain is, like, already kind of like this is going to be a big tab. Also, they're probably going to want to do like. Some nice wine or some nice, nice Bourbons or. Something. That's exactly nice red wine. Nice bourbon is like that's where, I'm hedging. Like, not like let me give them more attention than the rest of my people, but like, hey, like, play good defense here. Yeah, you know for sure, dude, like, every motherfucking server. Knows that shit. Yeah, right. Everybody. It's like OSHA, they're saying, I got to lock into this table. Like I got. I got to fucking eat. All this is like, I put my shorts. If I have anything, I'm like, yeah, if I want to have what I. Give myself, if I put myself in the best position possible to make the most money I possibly can, I gotta try as hard as I can't right now. Like in order to try as hard as I can, I need to fucking LeBron James puts everything. Else down, dog. Yeah, totally. But we're we're making gambles when we do that because it's like, yes, they might not order the red wine. They might be fucking white wine drinkers. But I'm going to hedge and come and be like, hey, would you guys like to see the wine list? I've got a couple of really great bottles in tonight. It's like that whole dialog might be like, we weren't wine drinkers, so you lose a little bit of, like, this guy's fucking amazing. You know? Everything we wanted. That's like, the optimum goal. Every time I come in with, like, intuition and gambles that don't pay off, I get further from being this person that was able to. Anticipate needs fully. Exactly. Yeah. And but there's times where we're just right. Like a lot of times in a row, like you read all four of your tables and you got the good read and you made great recommendations and you crushed all of them. But like, so that's what I'm saying. It's a gamble. But we're also really successful. It's not like the Las Vegas gamble where it's like 5050 or the house always wins. Some people might even have to gamble on that level. But I think for the most part, we're able to have a really like a 90% success rate on some nights. So yeah, all of the hedges that that's insane to to do that much fucking guesswork on reality, to read energy and people and be able to like, assume to some degree what they would appreciate and enjoy in such a way that they're like really appreciative. That's like a form of magic, almost interact like ten years ago. You just like, meet someone. It's like hard to know the fuck they got going on. But you just meet so many people, talk to so many people and read so many tables, so much data. Yeah, that's the thing that helps us out a lot is the amount, just the sheer amount of interactions we have day to day. Yeah, week to week. It's a ton. Working in the. Yeah working in the service industry, the restaurant industry specifically. It's like you're talking to and interacting with hundreds, thousands every week. You know, a lot of people depending on where you're at and whatever you're doing, you could work at a mom and pop restaurant. Small town. Yeah, but if you're working in a big city, you're talking to a lot more focus. Yeah. A lot different kind of, because I guess it also depends on what city are in if you're in a big city. I was just going to say like, if you're in Vegas, you're probably meeting a lot of different kind of people too. Yeah. That's you. A lot of like when we're even on the Riverwalk, like in like the downtown, like travel destination places like you're going to meet a lot of people who are on vacation coming there who aren't from there. So you can get a really broad spectrum of like, types of people, types of personalities and types of way to ways to dialog and to go back and forth with different personality types and how to read people and how to, you know, do all that shit. Our restaurant a little bit more consistent with the clientele, people in that area, not a lot of people traveling from fucking Africa or Asia coming over here to our restaurant specifically sometimes, but not if we were downtown. It'd be a different a different story. Yeah, totally. But we were downtown for a while, so we got some of that exposure too. Yeah, I saw tons of people traveling from foreign countries. Yeah, people from different parts of America. But one thing that's crazy is working in a really, really high end restaurant is that, we interact people when they're having a really fucking crazy day in their life because it's like, if it's your. Anniversary, it's a big day. Yeah. Anniversary, birthday celebrations, graduation, people visiting in town that they haven't seen in years. It's like, they're son just turned 18. I mean, these are fucking crazy days, big ones. But, and not that we take it for granted, per se, but on some level, we definitely do because we're like, oh, I gotta go to work. It's like another table. Like, get the fuck out of here. Like these people, like, this guy just graduated from the Air Force. This is a fucking crazy day for him. Like just graduated. He's beaming. Dude, he's at a dinner and it's a full fucking graduation. So for this whole family who isn't in town, usually. Very often. Fucking Grandma Susan town. Yeah, grandma. Like, that's crazy on our end to all these interactions that we have for the most part, are these really highly energetic people at like, climaxes of their lives. We live in a crescendo ville. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. So they'll take it for granted. That's like I'm like, hey, how are you doing? They're like, I'm. Crescendoing when life is hitting a wall. But the most meaning I've ever felt in my life. Yeah, I think whoa. That's awesome dude. Yeah, that's. Really cool that we're just around that kind of energy all the time. I wonder if, like, we somehow our energy was, like, drawn to a pool of that kind of energy. I don't know if that makes sense. Maybe. Yeah, right. Fuck yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so. Because we were like, on a pursuit of trying to make people's lives better. Maximizing. Life. Yeah. So we got taken to a building that houses a lot of maximal life for sure. The celebrates it caters to it. Make sure it is experience at the highest level. It can be, you know, if you're going to have a birthday. So there's only so much, so much hours of the day that you're going to be consciously awake. So like, how are you going to maximize that? And then out of that you're going to do X amount of things. You have so much to do. And whenever you come to have dinner, he's want to have like the there is a best experience possible. But it maxes out because we're like humans and we you can't eat everything like. You can only eat like one meal. Yeah. Like we gotta make sure that shit is perfect. You know what I'm saying? One of my coworkers called it the orgasm. The the. Orgasm, the. Orgasm. Yeah, yeah. She's like, it can only like, an orgasm is an orgasm. It's like eventually you're going to hit that threshold where you gave them the best experience possible. It's like there's there is a threshold where it's like, okay, they had the orgasm. It's like they, they had the best night that they could possibly have. Oh my God, one of those. Yeah, yeah. At the end they're like. This Madi, this was unbelievable. Everything's amazing. Unbelievable. We will be back. You know, it's like that. That happens for people. That's kind of the goal. Yes, definitely. Yeah, that's the maximum experience. Yeah. I was trying to describe. Trying to cater that or trying to create a cultivate an environment where that can happen. Yes. That's worthwhile as fuck in my opinion for sure. Yeah. Fuck yeah. But yeah, there's something to, normal people having regular interactions in their office job. They're not having the same interactions day to day that we're having. And so I don't know if that creates like a different in our personality or our experience or our toolbelt. Yeah. Or like yeah. As far as like reading social situations and different personality types or the intuition feeling we've been talking about like. On if frequency and energy, electricity has something to do with our capacity for our brain to function more, to be more tapped in, receptive. Yeah, exactly. I, I think maybe being around those interactions more might have charged us up a little bit more then if we were not to be in that same sense for dealing with more dull drum life. Yeah, yeah, I could feel that. That makes sense. I don't know, I. Guess because there was a there was a point in time where we weren't at the restaurants at all, you know, for for Covid. Yeah. It was, it was it easier or harder to get more tapped in or feel more tapped in during that time? Yeah. I think I could have lived my life in a way where I was still having good intuition and stuff like that, but I wasn't doing super well, so I don't think I was going crazy. Yeah, I guess I don't know. So I was just trying to say that, to say like, maybe if someone has an office job, it wouldn't necessarily inhibit them from having that or reaching or, increasing that vibrational frequency for intuition there. Yeah. No, I don't think so. Developed it. It is something you developed though. It is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. If I can go kicking rocks. Yeah. Kicking rocks. Dog working with like three people. Yeah. It's a a social interaction. It kind of started for. Sure for sure. But I think there's something to maybe get to it either way to develop that frequency and attune yourself to it regardless of whatever your external situation is. If you were working at a higher restaurant or working out of an office job with two of the people, or working solo, you're driving for Uber driver for fucking Lyft or, favor Uber Eats, Grubhub type shit. Do whatever you're doing. Regardless. You had to. Maybe we mean, we we all have the ability and capacity within ourselves to increase our into an intuitive abilities, the ability to think what's going to happen and to be more accurately in line with objective reality. I think we all have the ability to do that naturally. We all dream, we all have imagination. But yeah, it just takes us to a level, a certain level of honing and trying to get yourself to that vibration, to that frequency, through meditation or through doing the right shit. Keeping a clean house like you're clean, like maintaining your own hygiene and your own cleanliness, and then doing something physical. There's something meaningful or like like a hobby because I guess we have both like a eventually the, the ideal would be to have the hobby turn into a job that you get paid for, and like you help people in the process of doing the hobby as well. I think everyone can do that. Or it's the kind of like a baseline belief I got. But either way, if you have some sort of those components in your life that maybe might help you elevate yourself to a higher and higher levels of intuition and perceive ability of what's going on here with objective reality? Yeah. And you could use that information to conduct yourself in a way that would just generate more of that, more on that, more of that. It's like the yeah, the more is more shit. Yeah. You know, I'm saying, dude, I mean the in the podcast he's talking about, they did like an experiment with top 500 company CEOs. So decision makers, big balls, big balls, big balls. And the people that scored higher on this abilities for, like, remote viewing for like, this, like tapping in more or less they their company scored higher on the fucking like for building wealth versus, losing wealth scale. And it got to a point where they, the scientific conclusion was that there's so many decisions to make all the time. And it's like, how would you be able to or one of the best factors for making these right decisions. It's like it's all guesswork. We're all making gambles all the time with all of our decisions, your. Judgment. Your judgment. Yeah, it's a. Gamble, your judgment, determining your behavior and gambling that your judgment is right. The exit. That's it. Yeah. And the people that were more in this field of intuition was going with their gut feeling with like, whatever tangibles they could scientific quantify how you would be able to do this remote viewing. They were like proven on paper to be being more successful. And I'm listening to this just like, dude, what the fuck, bro? Like, I was living my life completely hands off the wheel for a while. Just like just going with the gut more than anything. Or like what felt right. What felt wrong? Like this intuition feeling rather than trying to, like, drive my life to a place, you know, because it's like if, let's say you walk into a bar to network and it's like one person out of the 100 people there can actually help you. So how would you determine that? Like any regular person, what are you going to like you have? Let's say you only have enough time to talk to 15 of the 100 people. One person can help you. What would you what would be your tactic to discovering that one person, like a lot of people, might look for like wealth status symbols. Someone in the same industry or some sort of reasonable gap. To jump that would get you there. All of that out the window. All of that out the window. Fuck that straight stomach strike you're. Probably gonna miss on a couple. Like, yeah, for sure. What the fuck do you know? You don't know what's gonna happen. No, I like your gut. Might be like, well, that guy's dressed sharply and has a nice haircut, so maybe he knows what he's talking about. Or, like, maybe because I try to dress sharply and have a nice haircut, I would naturally be like, he seems like a friend, so maybe I'll go start there and then. But ultimately, I think it's going to be like something in the milieu of your entire life pointing you towards the woman with the black dress on. It's like, I don't know what it is. I feel like maybe because I was watching that show and I was talking about that actress, and then that other lady reminded me of the actress. She kinda reminds me of that actress. That all happened over the last 2 or 3 days. I'm just gonna use my one of my 15 on this one. Yeah. There you go. It's. I think it's more that. That's different. Than it is. Like, how do I fucking do. Doo doo doo doo. Doo doo doo. Yeah. The mathematical calculations. Yeah. I don't know if sometimes math obviously you have to use math, but I think when you're navigating life and stuff like that, it's it can be a hindrance. All logic goes out the window. Yeah. It's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. What are we doing here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes. Yeah. Follow in the White rabbit. Like that fucking trope in The matrix. You know what I'm saying? He doesn't want to go. It's like the very first scene, or one of the very first scenes is where he walks, walks with or he doesn't walk with, but he's walked up on in his apartment, knocking at the door, doing business with him, gets a little message on his computer, follow the White Rabbit. And he's like, what the hell? Sees the people at the door, gives them exchanges, the money or exchanges, whatever they do, whatever they're buying, and then sees a white white rabbit tattoo and then just follows the lady to the club. And then in the club, that's where the the interaction happens between him in there and the shit, you know, said dude. Yes. We were talking to a coworker one time about if you were never around church or anyone who is a Christian, how do you know Christ? And I was trying to explain. That you and I were are you were. You? And I were in the office talking to one of our coworkers. Okay, that sounds familiar, because I was I'd say I think I remember this conversation. Yeah, but. And I was trying. To remember the premise. In The Alchemist, when he goes to the well and he meets the lady like, it's like a feeling he has. He's like, whoa. Like I've loved you in a lot of lifetimes. Like, I need to see you again. And then the person we were sitting with was like, you're talking about, like, the lady in red. And I was in the moment. I was just like, Yeah, sure. Like I thought he was talking about from some other book or some other movie that I hadn't seen, because I was really trying to describe this alchemist scene where it's like, you could just be living your life and then get overwhelmed with the feeling of like, oh, there's massive importance here. And but in reality, I wish I would have pivoted that conversation because it hit me, I was like, oh, he was talking about in The Matrix matrix. But the lady in red. But she's a distraction like she's built to keep you engaged in the matrix so that the matrix can swallow you whole. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the White Rabbit. It's actually a better translation for the metaphor that I'm trying to describe. Yeah, because I feel like the Holy Spirit or God or Jesus, like it can give you white rabbits that lead you to him. Yeah, yeah. I like the idea of, like a burning bush. Yeah. Even if it's not like a literal burning bush. It's something that would be life light like that would mimic life itself with its depth and intensity and its meaningfulness that you're able to look at and be like, whoa, what the fuck? It might not be an actual burning bush. But you'll feel like you're looking at a burning bush. Like, what the fuck is going on with that thing? Yeah. And then like, that could be. Yeah, like the white rabbit that would lead you. Then you follow it, you try to talk to it, you try to interface with you try to incorporate it into the way that you're going to handle your life going forward. Right. And that's like what the what the call is or like the. Yeah. Like the white rabbit intuition. The fucking. There's so book in the movie or something. I'm working with us. That's not just us working on life. It's like life reaching out towards you. Yeah, yeah, I think that's real. I think that's real for everybody. There's lots of stories, movies, books. It's real that we have to put it into art because we can't quantify as like, this is sunrises, sun falls. It's like, you can't like, see it like that. I can't perceive it like that. Yeah, yeah. It's like the, I think we mentioned it in the beginning of the pod, but just talking about science is like the, it's like it's we're trying to discover what the fucking like. The walls are like, what are the what's like this? The encompassing thing that is earth. Like, what are the rules that keep Earth together? You know what I'm saying? It's like for the, like, the laws of physics and like the laws of like our body and that laws of our body, but like our, like, nutritional makeup and our fucking medical advancements, like we're just trying to technological advancements. We're trying to figure out what's going on here. But ultimately this like, that's just like what science is doing is figure out what's going on here to the best of our ability at the current time with current information. And there's the known unknowns, things that we know that we don't have the capability to Google yet. It's like, okay, yeah, we need a certain amount of money or a certain type of battery or a certain type of X, Y, or Z to make this experiment work. And whatever we do have that money and that equipment, we can run these experiments and then figure out some of these unknown things, the known unknowns. But there are the unknown unknowns that were always in me running into 100, 200 years, 1000 years down the line. We'll figure those out when we get there. We don't even have the ability to get there quite yet, but it's like science is doing that kind of shit. But there's something that transcends that. That's like the the magical part of where you're talking about like the fucking flat earth versus like the crazy depth, the nuance that you can't even comprehend. Yeah. Like, yeah. I think that's that's more real. That's the thing that's going to predetermine or like. I guess. Yeah, it's the intangible. It's the no thing. It's the beyond. Imagination, the thing that generates the generator. Whatever is going on here, the things, the animators, the fucking intuition. And you can tap into that thing. Yeah. If you were me, someone who just has crazy intuition, they just like, figured out a way to, like, perceive those intuitions out in their mind or in their gut, like, oh, I just felt something. Sometimes you can feel something and not even realize that you had felt it. Then later you're like, I knew something was off. It's like, did you? It's like when you feel it's off being like something is off in the now. So that way later you have to say, I knew something like, now I know now, what is it like? Let me like try to like without obsessing or getting compulsive about it. Getting crazy. Yeah. It's like, can I figure out what it is that I'm feeling right now? And you can. Sometimes there's definite moments where it's like, I'm doing my gambles based on expectation of reality, are hitting so crazy hard that it's like, what are you doing right now that's making you so bang, bang, bang. Steph Curry with the three pointer. It's like I am out of my body. I'm literally living in effortlessness world. I'm not thinking about much. I'm just like I am the task. I'm not even going like I am the task. I am the task. And it's just like, Yeah, the nothingness like we're talking about with the Harry Potter mind, like versus like trying to, like, fortify yourself versus like being nothing. Yeah. It's like super protection of the self versus complete opposite dissolution of the self. Oh it's like I'm nothing bro. Oh I'm just. I'm I can't even feel my arm right now. Like yeah I. Don't know where my arm starts. And the oxygen molecule stop. Like I'm. There's just one thing right here dog. Yeah. That's it's crazy. That's hard. We can get there. I think we're talking about earlier too. It's like it's a I think we all have the ability to get that stat generated and increase and add experience to it and level it up, but it's it takes time. And you had. Yeah. It takes a conscious effort is the other thing. Yeah. You know try to be following your intuition and seeing what that feeling is like. And I don't know, I'll just talk about intuition. I was thinking about people who, can into it or like, I don't know, have you heard of stories of people who are super lucky? It's like win contests all the fucking time. Yeah, these people have won the lottery twice, right? What the fuck is that? That's something that's. That sounds like a mob ties. Yeah. Type shit. That'll sound real, dog. That's not like a burrito. That's McDonald's monopoly. Money. Yeah, no, but I'm with you. Yeah. So, like, are those. People people just like. Blessed to be lucky, or are they, like, manifesting that reality? Or is their intuition just, like, stupid? And maybe if there's a multiple, multiple parts of this question, maybe this have stupid intuition and they're able to generate that intuition and aim it at the purpose of winning contests or winning money. But if they were able to do that, would they also be able to then take that same intuitive power and apply it and aim it towards, I don't know, medical advancement or some shit. So like, is that that's one question and then the other one is more base level. It's like, are people just like lucky like that or how how are they manifesting that reality? Because I've heard stories of people who know people who've won multiple types of contests, and it's saying like the same, same thing every time. I guess there are some people who go to Vegas or play the slot machines, and they went often. Or there's I've also heard stories of people, friends of friends who like, yeah, like that person like won a car. They won a trip. They won. They won like a, I don't know, X amount of money on a scratch off. They do well in Vegas every time they go. It's just like every avenue there's, there's like lucky people or whatever. I'm making sure that is. So is that. What is that thing? Is is it tapped into intuition or is that's like natural? Sometimes I think it's intuition just got given. I think what you could definitely distort your luck. I believe I think you definitely make your luck worse. Yes. For sure. Like, having shitty karma is one thing that comes straight to mind, right? It's hard to like put your finger on them. Like I don't know. The Bible doesn't tell us that karma's real. So I'm not saying that karma is really like that, but I think if you like, like, you can kind of say things like, first of all, negative belief systems, like if you think like you're a loser and you never win anything and you're not a lucky person, I think that will just like, plummet your ability to be lucky fix. I believe 100%. Also, like, have you ever seen, like, a main character in a movie who's like, what could possibly go wrong? And things have really gone wrong? Like something, oh, something terrible happens, like, right then you know what I'm saying? Like, so in that sense, no, like, everything's going perfect for them. But they're like, they get there's like a word for it. I can't remember, but it's just like where they think they're doing untouchable. Yeah, that. Sure they think they're untouchable or, they're giving themselves way more credit than that. They deserve like, they're not being humble enough. So then, like, God humbles them or they get humbled in the moment really fast. Okay, I got, I got I got it. So if you're like being, I can't think the fucking word humble is the closest thing I got to it. Like, you have to be humble so that this is happen. But if you're too. Prideful or, like. Arrogant. Yeah. Either way, like pride, pride comes before the fall. Whatever that thing is pointing to. Yeah, too much pride can lead to a fall. So that would be like generating unlucky ness for yourself. So I think like being real humble and giving like all the pointing, all of the praise outward away from you like helps generate your positive electric charge towards getting lucky, but also intuition of like, I don't know, have you ever been like, I'm not going to make that phone call a little bit later? Or like, like when I do something if I'm trying to, like, have good timing on it, if it feels like maybe I shouldn't do it right now, then I'll like, wait a little bit. They've made call in like five minutes when the airwaves feel a little more clear, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to, like, feel that out sometimes. Yeah. It's like, what time should I get to the gym so that I optimally get to picked up for the first game of basketball without waiting an hour for the first game of basketball? It's like there's a little fuckin well, I gotta get out the door. Or I gotta leave right now. Yeah. It's like you just feel it. And then also like traffic. You ever just, like, beat all the traffic somehow and then try to backtrack to, like, what made me leave. Right then it's like I didn't make that cup of coffee. Like, sometimes I'm like, I got to go now. And I'm like, but I want to do the doo. Doo doo doo. I'm like, I think you got to go. I think you got to go right now. Like, don't fuck around the timeline. Yeah. Like that feeling happens too. That might just be literally crazy person shit. That's doable. Yeah. You know, like, if I start a lot of things with you, call me crazy. But there's times where I feel you feel something like, hey, I got to leave, like, right now. Like, I know if I'm gonna make everything happen, I can feel it. Like I got to get out the door. And then, So I'll forgo the cup of coffee. Sometimes I'll, like, not finish prepping something I wanted to do before I left. And that's just like, boom, go. And then there's times where it happens, and then, like, I get there and they're like, all right, sweet, that's ten. Let's play. And I'm like. Pass me the ball right. Now where I need to be. I a tapped in. Yeah. So yeah I don't know I guess I'm definitely hundred percent in agreeance. You can I guess, I guess. What is it, what is it that we're calling luck? Like negative force or negative circumstance? Occurrence? Pretty much. Or positive circumstance occurrence, at least seemingly from the outside. Because if someone wins a lottery, that can be a bad thing for them. You know? So maybe luck is just. Yeah, positive or negative occurrence happening in your life altering your life situation. And then if you have enough negative of those in a row, you say you have bad luck. And I think if you give yourself that self there, that belief system, you will incur things that validate it and give you quote unquote, bad luck and negative life circumstances repeatedly happening. So I think the opposite is true as well. But I guess I'm not sure how that translates into do that. Scrap all that shit. Scrap it. Not yours. Mine. Okay. But I think it's it's when people show up on their birthday, a really fancy restaurant. I'm like, so, did you catch all the green lights today? Favorite song. Came on the radio, walked outside and saw your favorite dog. Like, has it just, like, fucking juiced up for you? You know, real meaty day life. You know, it's beefy. Beefy life perception. But, like, the. Thing I'm asking them because it's like, I think on your birthday or on those special days, sometimes your frequency, your energy can be so good and so high that you're hitting a lot of positive. Like, what's the best thing that could have happened in this moment? And then moment to moment? What's the best thing that could have happened? Because you're on the best frequency, so you're digesting the best version of life for you available that day. And I think that there's something real in that. That's what the guy on the podcast like clicked in my mind as this is true is like it's the it's the stepping towards the city. Like the closer you are towards home frequency. Yeah. The better. Reality is where you stand. The white lie that we were talking about last time. Yeah, like the pure white in the pure dark. Exactly. And sometimes it's your birthday. You just wake up feeling good. It's like. Yeah. Are you doing anything holy to feel good? It's like, no, you just feel good. And you are like a holy being. Like, that's enough. You know, if it can be just like, that's a very pure thing you're feeling good about. It's your birthday. Yeah. If you're like. All I want for my birthday is. A big booty hope maybe that's not such a bright white light energy. That's why her loss is hard to listen to, because it's not a lot of, like, pure energy. It's a lot of, like, shit's tainted. Like, I can't, like, fucking put that in here right now. Yeah. I don't want to get tainted with my shit. I'm not trying to track good. Right to take my taint, which is this. Sometimes if you just play a song on an album and it's hip hop and it's like saying a lot of fucked fuck bitches get money sometimes if you're like, just in that, that three dance ad space and you're not, like, letting it become you, influence you. Hey, you just like dancing with it. That's a really high energy. So there's like there's a lot of nuances there, you know, because music can be different things. It's like, are you are embodying this thing like I am that orb. Or is it just like I just want a vibe. And entertainment vibe. Can take you like. Yeah. Pure fun. Are you just doing it for a pure, just. Plain. Just plain. Play. Yeah. That's so to get lucky I'm saying I think that it's like I think it's a reflection of sometimes not all the time, but sometimes your natural how close you are to that pure energy. Because if you're getting closer, then you're having more optimum reality. You might be more likely to get like lucky. And that's what I felt like. That's why they're saying less goes to it's like, why are they so successful? So tapped in. Is out there, bro. At the highest upper echelon of financial institution. We're just looking at tap dance. That what the fuck? But then if you ask me why, I've been like a successful top five, top ten server at the restaurants I've worked at. And it's like, how are you doing that? Like, I tried being tapped in, probably. Doing my best and tap in the fucking. Yeah, yeah. Like trying to I've got like a a list of things I need to be doing to feel confident that I'm going to do a good job. And if I've done all those things, my energy is so high. Sometimes it's too high to fail. Like it comes in and pushes all the energy out that's there. That's not like pure celebration. Yeah. That's not like a fucking textbook thing dude. Can't learn that at school. Yeah. This guy is trying to quantify it. And I try to like point out it scientifically tangibly that we can get a grip on. They were able to I mean this this shit's fuck this shit, this shit, fuck the world up. Okay. But they were able to use remote viewing to perceive the trends and the silver trade. So he was trading futures on silver. A company was. And then they were asking for funding for their program. And he's like, well, okay, you guys can fucking see the future. You guys. It's like you guys, have someone remote view silver futures for me, and I'll give you 10% of all the money that we make. And then they were able to make enough money doing that to like, fund the program. And then there was like, I. Or someone within the organization who could remove you or they all quit. Yeah, like a lot of them, they were like, this guy was a really great remote viewer who's one of the best. And they would remote view and look at the future prices. Of silver Watts or like they would see. I guess. I got questions like. They would see. Like the just like the numbers on a screen. Or would they see like the like a map, like a fucking geographical map. And there's like, see like the silver trade trends or. In my mind, it's like this circle of people who are going to try to attempt to do it or whatever. Yeah, they all have their own like way they perceive their gut feeling it. And then some people are better at different things, like the way that this guy does it. He's really good at finding locations. So we're trying to find this down plane. We can't know exactly where it is. We're going to try to tap this guy into that reality and find it because he's good with that. But this other guy, he's really good at trends because he like, can feel swings. He's like, no. That's what it is. Yeah, it's probably just the it's just up or down. That's it. That's what this all star stocks are numbers. It's all numbers are up or down. More. More or less. Yeah. True. Yeah. It's way which way is it going. Better or worse. Oh it's going less. It's going to be less. It's like sell sell sell sell sell sell. Yo what the fuck. It made them all like just like, why don't you just keep doing that and make a fuck ton of money? He's like. Are they still doing. That? And he's like, no, no we're not. We got the funding we needed and we stopped. And he's like, is it because it's like, not right? Or like, what do you. He's like, it's like now what I'm doing. So I got me interested in the remote viewing. Not like utilizing it to make money, get wealthy, crazy rich. So like, I'm working with like, the CIA and I'm worried, I'm like, worried that the Russians will get this and then who knows what you can really do with this? We don't. We're trying to figure out what we can really do with it, you know? Yeah. It's like seeing the future. Some shit like that, pretty much. It's super intuition, super clear intuition. Intuition is kind of like trying to feel what the future is going to be like. Now, I got a bad feeling about this. I'm not going to do that thing, because if I do, I got a feeling that the future is going to be bad or the opposite. It's like, I feel like I need to do this thing because if I do, the future will be better. Yeah. So maybe you have a high super high resolution. How do they develop that super high resolution? They had training like they developed a program to try to train these people. They they grabbed a batch of new CIA agents and Stranger Things. Shit, bro. All right, you CIA agents, you are now the Stranger Things department. Yeah. Like, that would be so cool if you're one of those people. Like, I thought I was gonna shoot bad guys, but instead, this is crazy. We're in some fucking acid. Right here, throwing some LSD and trying to tap into the quantum. What? You know? Yeah. So that's what this this guy. It's hard for me to even process and digest that. That's reality. Makes sense. Or I guess I could. It's not that far fetched to me. The idea that we would be doing that or that there are people, circles of people within our government or what is he like? He said he was a government guy, right? Yeah. He started out as a private, I think, a scientist, and had a company doing this. And then he figured out that it was like real. There are people in the next room that doing these experiments where they go in at different parts of the city, all this shit, and then he explains to the head of the CIA what's going on? I think it was maybe the vice president, maybe the president even. And he talks for like 45 minutes. It's his window to talk to this guy. And then the guy is like, like, cancel everything else I'm doing for the rest of today because I'm talking to this guy for the rest of today. You know. And I talked to him for like five hours, and then they create, like a program in the CIA to start, like. Researching that. Integrating it into our, like, foreign affairs. Like how to deal with Russia or anybody that might be like a superpower that would be trying to harm us, then. That's crazy. That's cool that he was able to, like, use it for good like that, because I guess it would make sense to me that there would be groups and circles of people, regardless of if they're in the government or not. It makes sense if they're in the government to like, try to utilize it to help us as a country, or maybe to. Name if. It goes in the wrong hands, that that could also, I could see that happening as well. So circle of people, it would make sense that we would be investigating this type of thing, because I think that that just points to another similar group of people in the 60s or 70s. I think whenever Joe was talking about this on his pod mentions in multiple times, I think it's operational. MKUltra, right where they're like trying to figure out like the, the usage and utilization, if any, that we could get from LSD and that type of shit. Yeah. And give people trippin. I thought it was a truth serum at first. Yeah they did. They weren't quite sure what it could do, how we could use it, if we could weaponize it, if it was dangerous or if it was helpful. So they were like, yeah, drugging people up and try to figure out what the fuck is going on. Yeah. So like, it makes sense that if we were doing that back in the 70s or whatever, whenever that was, exactly that we would be doing that shit. Continuing the entire time probably never stopped. So circle of people are looking for that quantum, the Other Realm, whatever the fuck is going on here. It's crazy that there's more because they're. Doing it insane. Dude. It's so crazy. Insane. Yeah. And, It makes sense to do it for patriotism to someone who's like 60 or 72. Because, like, this world power, like Cold War, Cuban missile crisis from the 60s leading into the 70s, there was this big like, like we knew that the world powers were fighting against each other in a way that might result in, like a nuclear war. It was such a prevalent thing that I think that for that guy realizing that, you know, this is, something that could be used as a weapon, this is something that I think the government needs to know about. Like, we can find bombs. Maybe we could find, sleeper cell sleeper agents, like one of the remote viewers was able to tell President Nixon that there was something in his office that was going to stop him from being reelected his second year. And then they sent, like, people to go search his office, look for, like, toxins poisoning, or something, anything. Can't find it. And then it turns out that it was the tape recorder that got him caught for the Watergate tapes, ultimately was the thing that this guy was trying to describe. But it's like, you know what I'm saying? You can't quite exactly tell them how to avoid the future, but you can, like. Yeah, like a seer or. It's it's just something. In your office that's going to be the end of, you know, what is the acid? The bulb. Yeah. Right. It was like is that it's. Like, no, it was the. End. But he was right, you know. Crazy dude. So yeah, I think with that what you will, you can just live your regular life. You can keep going to work and tapping on the keys. I don't know if it helps you much. Might help you figure out how to avoid the Starbucks line every once in a while, but there's something to it. There's something to being in your best life. Being in your best reality, being the most lucky version of yourself. Yeah, that I think. Like if your job was to be a remote viewer, like, would you do anything different in your normal life and your regular like outside of the 9 to 5? Like, what do I mean? I probably do like more yoga. I'd be. More. I'll try to stay tattooed. I'd be more focused on making sure I got eight hours of sleep. Maybe they have us. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe they have, like a certain protocol they have to follow. But then also, I was just going to say, yeah, what you just mentioned is probably more true that the people who would be naturally inclined to do that type of job or be in that type of energetic frequency field and get attracted to that type of place to do that type of thing would naturally have, like that inclination to wanted to like charge a fucking battery or b be charged up like they're super healthy, super diet conscious, drinking water, getting sleep like you like naturally. But then maybe additional protocols to help maintain their levels of tapping in to bitterness. Sauna. Yeah, all that stuff. He. Yeah, that'd be cool. That's fucking career. Yeah. Let me type it. But the question was would they be where they do it outside the 9 to 5 hours on the job by stuff like that? Right. Yeah. I would put myself on a protocol, that sort of crazy thing dude. I wonder if they're getting paid a lot too. That's another thing. If you're getting paid like a minimum wage to be a remote viewer, that's not cool. I think they're getting paid whatever they want to get paid. Or enough money. To be completely fine. Yeah. Maybe they've rid themselves of that greed that's just like, you know, that's attached to certain amounts of wealth. And I think, all. Right, maybe they're there's, they're they're good with what they got. They're just in they're in the room like the Buddha, like. South west. South by southwest. Coordinates 187186. Like just pure beings. That'd be kind of crazy to to rid themselves of greed is a big ask. Yeah. All right, I see as far just they just trying to mess with the question of. What they're. Getting paid if they're getting paid enough. I think if they have the ability to see the trends or it's happening with their homie who sees the trends despite like the like travelers, like if they need money, there's going to talk to. Oh boy, get some money. Yeah, I guess you could get away from that. You're like, the rat race is fucking down, bro. Do you want currency? Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. You go like, maybe they beat the money game like they worried about money. That'd be cool. That'd be cool. Well, hey, that's how you gotta get. To that. Frequency. Yeah, you could be weird about that shit. You're right. Fuck you. Fuck me up. You're right. It's it. Oh, boy. But, like, who's gonna win the finals this year? Yeah. Right now. Yeah. Just being really pure on your energy. Well, I mean, that was we got. I got into a weird place where we were hitting on every football that we were making. I mean, it was fucking insane. The run was so real, and it was I. How did you do a massive, like, just tapping in, dude. Just trying to feel everything. Asking people what they think, thinking about what those thoughts like, letting those thoughts hit me and being like, no, I don't believe that. Oh, that's very true. Actually, I do believe that. And then eventually I would go with that, like very true feeling. And then sometimes I would go with not the very true feeling because it's like that's too true of a feeling. That feeling is actually a fake feeling. It's too true to be good. Yeah. Three real fucking nuances and levels and layers so deep. So yeah, I wish I grew up to be a a seer, but I'm down. I think we'd have to get into the CIA. I don't even know if that program still exists, which, just like this moment in time. And you checked out that podcast with the guy. What's his name again? It was like one of the more recent Joe Rogan's. Yeah, it's the second. The most recent as of May 5th. It is called How put off. How the boy. Hell, yeah. He took that. One. That's crazy. I feel it, though, bro. I feel you, man. I feel that imagination, that realm, that intuition. It's crazy that he's able to actually can't. Or that that reminds me a lot of that. I haven't heard the other one either. But there's the other part where he's talking to Kai Dickens, I think, is her name. The lady with the kids. The telepathy tapes. Yeah. There you go. That's it. That's that's wild, bro. Right. Or it gives me, like, the same sort of color or like, you know, the same sounding song. When I think about those two episodes. Yeah, they're talking about astral projecting, I think, Teagan, but more or less it feels like the same kind of thing going on there. Like remote remote viewer shape. Removing yourself from your body. And then go to the hill or whatever. There's like, a place where all these kids, like, with autism or some sort of on the spectrum, social disability or social ability, given this gives them the supernatural ability to where they can, I guess, close their eyes and like, meditate and like go to a. Place. Like the way that we can imagine and go to a beach and our minds take a like do that. But like on a super intense level with like more depth and more immersion, they actually go to this hill that they call it, and they'll meet up there in their minds or wherever, wherever, wherever they access it through their mind. But their mind is like the door that gets them into this hill. That's like a collective where all these other kids can go to, and they talk about whatever they're talking about. What the fuck is that? Unbelievable shit. This that woo woo, y'all the science. Yeah, that's not to it. It's crazy because like, the idea that it might be woo woo will stop you from just, like, living your life. Like, what do you like? You wake up in you drink water and you check the news. It's like I'm trying to wake up and be tapped in to live like the odds in my life, you know? Yeah. Not like. Yeah. I mean, love of God. I think like, yeah, God's got to come first. This isn't something that happens outside of God. It's like, I think some people will get those ideas mixed up. It's like, no, I think that, this is this is just life. This is life. Like God made you an image of him. It's like trying to understand what you are is a lifelong journey, you know? So I'm not trying to say you have superpowers. It's like, no, it's like, well, I kind of am saying everybody has superpowers inside of themselves. That's part of being made in the image of God. Yeah, unlocking and unleashing those is a difficult process. Thanks. But yeah, a lot of consciousness is cool. Life is cool. Then it down is in the fuck out. Just what is in the fuck out. Tap the fuck in, keep on push and I see it may. That's all we gotta do. It's all we. Can do, baby. That's all we got. It's just time, yeah. To find some enjoyment in that process. We an hour and a half. Yeah, I think so. What the fuck. I flew by. I love you guys. Never want to leave it.
It was just like 2:00, and I was like. I was just like 330. We're trying to sit in this room and just eat and hang out with you guys again. Just came to an Ivy Park for seven days straight. It was a world record for the longest podcast. We could break it. We will shatter that fucking shit. One of these lifetimes. What's your guess? I guess hell is is a live stream considered a podcast or what? What would constitute it as a podcast, I guess longest podcasts continuous or longest live stream continuous? I guess it depends on what they do on a live stream. But if we're just like podcasting, talking like this, I would say at least a couple of days, right? They gotta eat and sleep though maybe you can't as part of the bargain. You can't be sleeping on the live stream or on the podcast when you gotta stay awake the whole time. A bottle of fucking C4 right here. So we're not stopping. No one of us. Has got to be consciously awake saying something. The whole year, but they get real fucking weird little, real fucking little creepy after like seven days. Dude, that's that's sleeping on and off for six hours. Each or 12 hours each. Whatever. Quite six hours. Yeah, yeah, six would be good. We probably rock for for a while, but I would think that somebody would have pulled this stunt already. So I say like, eight days. Eight days. Fuck. So far, odd. It's also the date is going to get too long. That's become an equipment problem. Oh yeah. At that point, yeah. You need to get a different computer or a different view or a different battery. I guess we have batteries in here. Memory card would be the inhibiting thing. What if we. There's a memory card that goes from you can hear thing straight to a computer because I'm like just bring the computer in here and have it like be logging straight into the computer instead of the memory card. Yeah, yeah, that's what you have to do. I don't know if that exists. Maybe that's fucking. We were ahead of our time. Cutting edge technology. No, this is it. Got it. This has to have been done before. How long do you think? If I had to guess legit, I would say continuous. The longest continuous podcast. I think the podcast number would be smaller than the live stream number. It's a little bit easier, I guess, on the live streams. Maybe not. Podcast is a live stream at some point in front of you asleep. Maybe you have three people. Until you two, you always have to be awake, at least at all times. Maybe that's it. I think it was a caveat. You had to sleep was the conversation going on podcast? You'd have to make it work, and I guess you could dip out. You did go get some sleep and come back and check in. Oh, that's easy then. Yeah, right. That's not even hard. I would say at least three days. My guess is four days, four days straight. So whatever. Any hours. That is. Says everything about. 48 plus 48 and 96. Nice. Good math. It's like almost. 100 hours straight. Podcasting with at least two conscious conversing individuals. 153 hour nonstop podcast. Son of a bitch. I'm like. Okay, so I said like about 100 hours. So it was an extra two days longer than that. Two and two and change just like six days. And 6.3, it's almost. Six and a half days. Straight podcasting. But I wonder what the. Stipulations were to to constitute it as a podcast. The 53 hours is the previous set in 2020. They did 100 hours on top. Yeah, said hold my cock. Yeah. Seriously. We're gonna triple. Them. In 2016, the record was 36 hours. That's not even a hard day and a half. Yeah, but that was it. This marathon featured very shows recorded live back to back, including the Lou locomotive right there. That is the radio and three other ones. So, you know, five different shows making one podcast. It's kind of bullshit. Yeah. That's fucking gay. Yes. Or fucking. Well. Oh that's fucking hey. Yeah. Fuck that. Yeah. With you. That's, not the same thing. No, that's not what I'm think. We could chat room. Yeah, whatever. 36 is probably like, there's two people talking the whole time. Yeah, it was one. Let's talk to fucking. Guinness about this. It's like, how do we get the longest running podcasts regulations? It's gotta be at least two people. The record for myself and my co-host. So that is. Six and a half days straight. But they had multiple previously recorded shows that they just like played over the top. I think it was. I played. During all. Right. You guys are doing the podcast now and then they're like, welcome to the longest podcast ever featuring the Matt and Justin Show. They were they were just like, yeah, they pass it off to each other like a baton. Yeah, yeah. Which is fucking lame. Okay, that's that's it. Was cool to be a part of that, but I'm, I want to be the one podcast, the one show that does that, you know. Is, is if we apply for and we get approved or receive specific guidelines outlining the rules and evidence requirements for your record attempt, understand the rules. Five minutes per hour for a break. Wow. What? It's fucking easy, bro. Plan shifts to allow rest periods for host and support staff. Yeah, I guess we have the pace during that time. We got to go to the restroom. At some point during the pod. Yeah. And if our pod goes out for five minutes or like we have to fix something or change your memory card, it seems like it's okay. Oh, yeah. There you go. I just take a minute. A week of our lives to. It sounds terrible idea. It's not a terrible idea. I don't know how much traction that would get us. We'll record. Hold a baby, give a fuck what we. Want if we make a couple songs during that time, too. Yeah, the music that's part of the podcast. Portion of the pod. That's part of the eight show. Yeah. For sure. That's pretty cool. Get ace in here with a different microphone. I'm spitting into the ace microphone. Yeah. He's recording. Be fucking cool, dude. That is pretty fucking cool dude. They were going to digest the marinate that I did and maybe get back to you guys with the world record. Yeah, we'll try to figure that out because I'm not trying to have other shows on here I guess. What's the longest this one show? I guess we might said it. We might be the ones to do it. Yeah, we might shatter the record by ourselves, which would make it harder and more difficult to shatter. Yeah. You have to be really dedicated to it. You know, that'd be a hell of a week. That would be a bad ass week. We do. Dude. I'd be fucking sweet. Holy shit. Okay. We put that on the backburner. That's definitely something we could do. That be tight. Yeah, yeah, that'd be world record. Breaking. World's longest. But I guess we can also try to have, like, a bunch of guests come in. Yeah, right. Wouldn't that be cool if it was like, a marathon, I guess? Yeah. It's coming in over the course of the week. Yeah, that'd be really. Cool. Whenever they got time, we'll be here literally all day and all night. It's gonna be hard to get it uploaded to Spotify. Yeah. Break it into multiple, like, three hour episodes. Eight, three hour, I guess eight three hour episodes per. Day for. 24 hours. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of bad. As we get a lot done, we'll be ahead for like a month. We've been for a long time. Like a year. Damn. All right. Well, this is the kind of ideas you have. This is what. This is what we have with it. Think of it like hell. Yeah. Stay tuned. For that. Stay tuned for 38 everything. Stay tuned for. Everything. Oh, everything. Be the best version of yourself. Let's go win. Let's be champions today. I believe in. You. Yeah. Make the bed. That's the first level. And make that bed. Get that first brush those teeth. Walk the dog. Do what the fuck you got to do? Make it happen. We love you guys. We'll catch you on the flip. Every night