Merry CHRISTmas | Christmas, Easter & Evolution | The MJ38 Show #111

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Now we’re listening How are you doing? Yeah. How you doing? Merry Christmas. Merry born's day. We're out here. You feel me? Yeah. Liam Neeson, Yeah. Let's do it. I don't know. You feel me? Yeah. Come on, kid. Go get it. Energy. You know. Come take it. Energy. Come and take Eddie, and I'll go and get it back. Oh, Liam Neeson rapping my ass off lightly. Okay. Yeah. Nice. There's a moment in the car where I call it, like a flow. That was. There wasn't even a flow. I was just like, I'm not sure. Okay. Or something like that. But like, the rhyme scheme was so good. And then I ended up just, like, hitting that thing over and over. And I was surprised myself. I was like, oh, this is really good. Fuck. Oh, fuck. It has been a while since I've walked into like, oh, I'm rapping. Rapping you know. And then I don't really know what it was like. I felt maximally stressed out. And then I felt like a free, free bird out the cage moment. And I was just like an oncoming foot. Sheesh. I don't know. It was going hard, but it was going to really flow in the cadence and the words. Yes, yes, yes, bro. You lose yourself. Yes. Golly, it was so close. Bend inwards too. You know, like photographer. But it was hidden because I was rapping like Young Thug. Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. Anyways, that's just to say, I think there's something about your spirit. It's like sometimes when you're constrained, you can't touch the outer limits of your own frequency, which is where I think some of the most unique energy of you lies. It's like out there in the most free places. And so sometimes, you know, you just got to get back to touch. And all of you out here. Yeah. Things can. Things can stop you from being all you feel massive, though. A big, not like a big dog. Not like, you know, it says I've gained weight, you know, ain't nothing like that touch on the outward ends of myself. The weight has to clarify for us. Yeah. For me, what he's saying there. I also resonate with like, a different thing. It's like, sometimes. Yeah. If you. I don't feel loose enough. It's like, I'll dance, but it's not gonna be good. It's going to be like, forced and kind of, like, not in rhythm. There's those times where I'm just so happy I'm gonna, like, hit a spin, move on. I'm walking through the kitchen. You know, I don't even. I'm not even thinking about nothing, you know what I'm saying? Everything's just like I'm loose. Yeah. Free space. And those two feelings are different, you know. So yeah that's. And then I saw that this week felt a little free. Felt a little hit the dance move you know. Yeah. Your spirit's a thing. Yeah. Right. We're tapping in the spirit announce we're now celebrating the birth the gift. That's why. Hence if you're not watching online you're just listening. We are Christmas out for this one for sure. You'll see it in the in the vid regardless. Sure. Open up this one. You see it on the clips you see? Yeah. Either way. But in that spirit of celebrating that thing, because we have our own spirit and our own feeling in our own interpretation of the experience, and we live in that. And then I guess, yeah. What's the feeling for you aspect of it? We're able to be like be a come on, separated from sin, the thing that separates us from that moment. That idea like, of that source. Yeah. The same as the thing that separates us from that. Yeah. Like the ability to be like. Oh, okay, we can still get to this thing. We could feel it. I would 100% say that. You're right on the track of. It's the sin that stops it. It's the it's the the sin nature. Yeah. It's the way you've betrayed yourself. It's like Jelly Roll talking about. And that podcast was almost annoying for me. No. Okay. Jelly roll is so like. Oh, I just bubble. Listen, bubble. I just want to be a friend. I'm like, I'm on here with fucking cam, okay? And Cam's like, listen, man, if you mess up, it's all right. And I'm just like, okay, but oh my God. But I'm just a lucky some guy in the world. Like then it's like five minutes later the same thing happens. It's just like he keeps, like he's so, like, just talk. That's how I felt in the podcast. Like, you don't have to keep being so, self-deprecating or, like, so, like, oh, little. Oh, me. Oh, my. I can't believe what's happening to my face. It's like, I feel like you kept doing that. And I'm like, I get it. You're a down to earth guy. You're humble. You're authentic person. Like, stop trying to convince me it's how I felt. But maybe it's just like he, One of the things he kept saying was he. He's trying to make new friends. And so I think, like being a 40 year old man, trying to make new friends is a scary thing. And if his way of going about that is being like very down to earth, very humble, very like, thank you for hanging out with me. Thank you for your friendship. I know, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Thank you. Like all the time. Then I get it. You know? But just as a podcast, I was like, bro, just talk to Joe Rogan, please. You're a famous person. Like you. Stand on your own feet. You don't have to, like, keep thanking him for the invitation he invited or, you know, I don't know. That's something that I felt like I was listening to it. Yeah, I guess. Is it his character? It could be. Yeah. He could just be a good guy. Maybe just a good guy. Maybe I. Know you have some. You have some detective abilities. You know, with our energy and in the spirit. The spirit analyzation of what's going on. Yeah, I think it was. That's just like a subtle, like a pat on the. But like a, hey, could just go play ball. You ain't got to be so worried every time you slide into a base. If you hurt the other player that's not in the basement. Yeah, right. Good. That's what I wanted to tell him. Not the biggest mark in the world at all. Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of this. Repetitive. Not repetitive, but a lot of the same types of ideas kind of explored. And then coming back to that same sort of point of like gratitude, like doing the hard thing, like hitting the hill or fuckin hit like talking to your friends or like creating new friends, whatever the new, the surrounding yourself in different environments. Yeah. But yeah. So it wasn't repetitive exactly, but it was definitely a I don't know, I guess we're talking about his, like, delivery. I think it's like a caricature or like a play a little bit. It was just so they got to a point where when he would say bubble out, cringe. That's just like so sick of being like, look bubble. Like, oh my goodness. But this just his cadence too. People have certain cadence. So sometimes if someone keeps saying, you know what I mean? Like too much, I start being like, like hit me hard every time you say, you know. But I don't know. That's not to say I was saying that I, it wasn't my favorite podcast but it is a good one. Why did we bring it up. Jelly roll talking about. The spirit of something. The spirit. Yeah. That's what separates us. Yeah. He was talking about how he was just, like constantly. He was just a boil. It didn't boil down to for him, but on a lot of things, I'm sure. But one of the things that really boil down to is dishonesty, because he's got a coach, he's got a nutritionist, he's got people holding accountable. He has told those people like, I want to do the thing. I agree with you. I'll be accountable. They're like, all right, yeah, good. All day I'm going to take off, be back in the morning, don't eat too much. And when I'm gone, more or less. And then he's like, okay, let's eat a little bit. Just a little bit. It's like then he's like, well, a little bad is like very subjective. You know, a little bad for me could be a pie. It's like this is a little bit trust me, I could do much worse. I could do some damage. Yeah. So he's just, like, constantly betraying the. It's like. Because everyone's like, okay, we love you. We know you fucked up and we know you're not where you want to be, but we want to help you. And we agree that we're willing to, like, help you in this thing. And then he's just, like, constantly betraying himself and them all the time by not actually following the diet. And so I think that that I think that the thing that he was kind of pointing to when he's like, it's not so much he's like, it's a feedback loop that I couldn't get out of. That's really what it was. And then on top of that, it boiled down to like, I felt like a dishonest fuck all the time. It's like, that's what my life was, a feedback loop I can't get out of, and I'm just a dishonest fuck about it. And like, I think that that thing he identified that is like, that was what I was going through. But I think that's more akin to like, what everybody's going through when they're not doing the thing. That's the best thing for them, because I think you naturally agree. I want to do the thing that's right for me. All your friends agree. And most of the time, your inner circle is down to help you if you need help, like dramatic help, you know, like your lives on the line or something really bad happening. But then like, the only if the only way that doesn't work out is like when you're betraying what is the right thing that you want to do for yourself. You're like letting yourself be attached to the chains of sin that already have you. And you're not just like walking out of them with the freedom and authority of Jesus Christ. So the spirit of that thing like yes, I think what am I trying to point to I guess like the first I was just like feeling, not feeling free, not feeling like you have your own spirit, not feeling like a free bird or like all of yourself think it seems like you're being. It boils down to like dishonesty with how you're living your life and betraying yourself and leaving yourself wrapped in sin. Even though Jesus is like trying to give you the authority to walk in his spirit. You know, just like self betrayal. And then because you're betraying yourself, you can't be yourself. You have betrayed it. You poisoned it. You can't be the freest, most like you're not loving yourself enough to let yourself bloom out of yourself. And that's what's going on there. Sometimes you still can you know, we still can. We can do that Jesus be grabbing you in the middle all your shit bro. Like come with me. Follow me. Kind of lead. I'm like yo that's the savior. As a savior we're lucky to have man. It's awesome. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Born in a manger. It's crazy because that's what we're thinking about Christmas now. That's how we're thinking about Christmas now. But like back when we were like 1314, 15 means get some new Call of Duty brother. I mean, dude. Oh, my. It's time to play some Call of Duty. Did the kids are you. If you don't have it already this week, right? This is like the last week of school for the kids. Probably. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, this is it, dude. Burning the halls down right now. Monday, last week of school not done. Christmas break, two weeks coming up. I'm taking the day off. Even if I'm there, I'm off. Yeah. Little one was off today. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Yeah, yeah. Go to the, tennis pose, but yeah, it's like, here we go. Thanksgiving, Christmas time, New Year's. It's just a nice little way to just wrap up. It's a it's a banger. You know, like the episodes of life. Yeah. It's a lot of pivotal moments within a month span a month and change. Yeah. Yeah. Like the day of Thanksgiving to Christmas to New Year's. It's like boom, boom, boom. It's a good finale to a year that everyone's like, yes, here we go. We all agree. Is 2026 coming up? Let's go. We're all going to say it's whatever day and time. Here we go. It's exciting. It's exciting. We I think it's funny that we do it every year. Like no matter what, if we die or not, if we're here or not, people are going to freak out for the new year because it's just weird to see 25 go to 26. What's going to celebrate? They're gonna celebrate their forever. They'll never stop Christmas to, let's get cool until it comes back to you guys back. I guess we're slowly enjoying the time during the moment. Yeah, life is chill. Life is too. Life is so random. Sometimes I want to get a couple stories I want to bring up. So it just happens to you, you know, your story just happening to you and want it, like, because I hey, I got I think I was talking to you last Sunday and then we were, I was going to HB and then hit a pothole and I was like, oh shit, dude, that's good. I remember I called you, it was rough. It was a cringeworthy pothole. You're like, I got to look at the dude. I was like, oh no, I got rocked right now, bro. That's it'll make you cringe hard. Oh, driver didn't hit a pothole. Jeez, Louise. But then, yeah, let's see if I can find the tire. Then I had to go to discount the next day and warranty. So I got a new tire. Bingo. Bango is not that bitch. Hey. And then a couple days later, come home. A little one's chillin. She has a friend over. I was like, oh, okay, what's up? And ready to play soccer together? Whatever. And then we chilling. We're going to go to the rec center and go, they're going to go hit the volleyball around a little bit. We're chilling. There's like a playscape kind of like a crazy large playscape outside the rec center. But something, you know, for little kids. And there was a little spinning object and they were just playing. And then they went to go play volleyball for a little bit, playing and then we got in the car. I was like, all right, let's take it home. Let's get some food real quick. There we go. Pick up some food. Chick fil A hand to go drop off the little ones, friend. And then this here Jessica. But oh, no, I hit a little. But no, oh, no, oh, no. We had taken everything out of the of the. We were the chick fil A took everything out of the bag. We were all like getting ready, got ready in the parking lot, you know, got our food, got situated, got everything. The dough laid out. Getting ready for the travels. Here we go. Going on a hike, automobile hike. We went out the hike. And you know, sometimes you go on a hike, hike and then. Yeah, just, but but and then her friend just started puking and then she was, she had she had the bags soaked in the bag. It was like it went through the bag. Jesus Christ, no. Oh, Lord, help me, help me now I do. In the adult. It's not so funny. The kids are like, what do I do? Like what do we do? Oh, fucking dumb fuck! Franklin! Damn it. He, like, rolled down the window. That's young. Lead it. Go with it. Rock with it. Pull into the gas station there. Oh, I can clean up a little bit of this and clean up a little bit, and then. Yeah, I get it now. Cleaned up, detailed and happy. The camera. I'm so sorry. Yeah, it was rough. It was rough, but coarse, detailed. So that's nice. That's our first time done. That feels great, right? Yeah, it feels awesome. Regardless, I've never gone a detail car clean. I've only gone just like a regular car wash. And then you hit. If you've been extra with it, you go through and you hit it with the vacuum. Oh, you hit him with the vacuum moon. You know, he's really clean them up. It's all good. And then now this is a different level never getting than the full detail thing before. They'd be like popping out your buttons and shit and cleaning your screws. Yeah, it's crazy as wild. My dad gets his car detailed sometimes, and every now and then he'll get my detail because he's like, sometimes he's, like, doing trades and stuff. So he's like, sold someone something and then they owe him like eight car detailing or something like that. So like, I'll take your car. We can get a detail because I'd like a, I need to get my money back for this thing I sold. I'm like, okay, cool. Thanks. That's baller. That's cool. Let's go. But it always feels great. It's been like a couple years. But then I think like, man, I just I myself. And then sometimes I thought about opening a car detailing business. They're pretty successful. Some of them never. So never had that before. Life is the story just happening, you know? So nothing I could have done about that. Nothing I could, I guess I could have done something about the pothole, but can you. Matthew? Mark I don't think so. In that moment I said no. And then I got this is like bingo bango. But then even that was, I was like a it was so weird that it was such a delayed, like we shouldn't eat any of the food that we got. It was just a delayed reaction from the spinning thing, I guess was being in the back of the car or. Yeah, I don't know, but it was so much longer afterwards. I was like, what the hell, she got car. So I was way ahead, was dehydrated. And us by the way, culminated to the, it came to a head, the backseat of my Camry which went through the back. Yo I was like the holy saving grace. Why is God. Thank you. Thank God we pulled everything out of there if you know what I'm saying. Knocking out the goods knocking out the goods. It went through the back and then went through the bank. Oh, man. Just then, the only thing you didn't want to hear was like, fuck. Okay. Was I good at talking? It's like, yeah, I didn't even tell my parents. All right. You know, it's like because I thought, like, got food, food poisoning or like a too quick or something was wrong, but it was like, now just you didn't want to make them feel bad about it. Yeah. Yeah. I also like it. She was I guess it wasn't a bad thing. She was like, sick. Yeah. You're saying, but, yeah. Whenever I was getting kind of detailed, I was like, he's like, what's what are you looking for? More or less? I was like, oh, I like, you know, for his sister, who's like my daughter's friend, you know, got sick in the backseat of the car was like, oh my God. He was like, is it like still back there? Let's go see it's not he. Is that exactly how he like phrased it? But at least that's the sense of it, how bad it was. I know we cleaned it out. I at least like, it's like, not there anymore. Like we wiped it with some fucking some wipes. Also shampoo it, but you know, fuck it. That was a you're going to. Yeah. I don't like I came to the professionals for help honestly. So myself putting like dove shampoo in the I don't know what you'd use you'd buy from HP or something. I don't know, it's a sort of fabric. Fabric wash, I don't know, but yeah, it's, like, what has happened to you, bro? You could be as prepared as you want, but your story's just going to happen. And you're given these choices and these every moment is the choice to wrestle with the thought of trying to do the right thing. Try to understand what that is. We don't know what it is exactly. The most right thing is to let go of yourself. And yes, you know, saying it, try to let go of yourself enough to where you could free yourself. The thing that is letting go, you know, for that thing usually used to, and abstractly, at least in this crisis, was all mental. Yes. Yeah. So usually it comes down to a fork in the road where self-sacrifice. It seems like you need to cut the corner and do something objectively selfish to achieve the goal that has been deemed a worthy goal. But then it turns out that self-sacrifice, even though it looks like it's going to take you into a place where you're not going to achieve the goal, is actually the key to achieving the goal. And that's a Christ like, like motif, you know? And I feel like most the time it comes down to that, that's, that's where your pivot points are going to be like, yeah, I just do this thing. I just want do this thing. You're going to do this thing. And then you're like, there's a reason I definitely shouldn't do this thing. You're like, no, because it's gonna make everything work. Do the thing. You're like, it's. But it's wrong. And then you got to, like, not do it because it's wrong. And that part's always hard. That's the hard part. The sin nature. For some reason there's a story. True. Yeah. We're just living that out experiencing that. Yeah. But yeah dude part of part of what made Christmas time back when you were in school middle school and high school especially, it was like the Christmas break bro. That was fucking late, bro. If the best in you typically get Call of Duty, if you didn't have it, Call of Duty was the shit. It still is to a degree. I'm sure. Very popular, but not in my matrix. I'm sorry if we got on and started to claim we'd have the best time. If I could dedicate a good 4 to 6 hours a day, at least 4 to 8 hours, 6 to 12 hours a day for the next couple weeks or months, I can get back in it again and get in top form. Yeah, I get in top form. Different form, different form. Yeah. You be an apex predator. It was fun. There'll be a time Christmas, when we decide we're like, we're going to stream this game for like six months to a year and it'll be worth it. And it's going to be so fun. And then we'll probably not really play video games very much after that. Be like Pat McAfee era Fantasy Factory era stuff, like maybe Grand Theft Auto six. It's still like yet we talked about that. Somebody tried to get us to go. People are going to make a ton of money streaming that game when it comes out. At this, yeah, it's going to come out eventually and it's got a huge expectation on it. It's got to be amazing. It's got to be amazing. It's GTA five. Amazing. I never really played it. Wait, what if it never comes out? I just released what do you mean? It's like George R.R. Martin. Yeah, it's a scam. It's just drama in the flesh. Yeah. They're just like, you know, another round of investors. Another round of investors. Just figured it out. How did not ever that be crazy? Because, yeah, we're Game of Thrones. Where are you? What's happening that's been in the works for so long? Since the 90s, 90s. Once a good time to release it the day he dies, before he dies, hopefully. Maybe it's like, meant to make his kids rich. This was, Oh. You know, if he has any kids. Oh, fuck, I don't know. He could, he might. I don't know, George. I don't know George or Mr. Martin, but yeah, referring to the Game of Thrones book series, the show's done. They're making spin offs. House of Dragons, A night of the Seven Kingdoms, and I'm not sure if they're going to do a Game of Thrones continuation, but it's based on a book series. George R.R. Martin's the author. He in the book series, the original book series that was translated into the show that we know that it's eight seasons or whatever. There's five books so far. There's supposed to be seven, so six hasn't even come out yet. And seven is. And it's been like that. That's been the narrative since I've known about it, and that's been the narrative since like 2008 or some shit. So it's been a minute. It's been a minute now. Been a minute. George. But due to coming out, you know, with all the keep on pushing, we'll see. I don't know, it's, it's just an example of again, the supposed to be great Mark. Our world came out of a country where for a little bit when something groundbreaking happens. But you know, who knows what's going to happen with video games. It's one two years. Like if there's like a real life Pokemon, like Neuralink game. Yeah, probably stream some of that. Dude, that'd be really cool. Yo. That's. I mean, 50 shit's gonna be weird. How weird? Weird? I think so, too. Yeah, I knuckle, I'm John, I don't know, I trust you, I don't know what the hell is going on at all. No. Yeah. Autumn myself surrender. So sacrifice the ass to understand. No, I can't control the story. I can just control my contribution to the story. They'll handle the story and that's it. And my interpretation of the story. The mental story I'm telling myself about what's happening and why. To a degree. People want to know the why. The why is everything. But then that comes down to the face of self-sacrifice, of like, I don't know, you don't know why they're that's that's why I don't know why exactly. So I had to give it up. Said something that's more intelligent than me, whatever that is. Yeah. Our understanding or from my understanding comes from what gives you the ability to comprehend things and understand things and remember things. Yeah. It's like, what the fuck? Come on, man, Christmas. I'm saying I would love to have a different now, but it's crazy. It's awesome. I felt I hate on Easter for me this year too. I was like, Easter's like everything. That's the one, bro. That's the one. The one. Yeah. Christmas is if I got more glamor and glitz on it and it happens in a different time of the year. So it's maybe for different reasons. And this is a different season that hits for different things when it went in and of itself. Right. Right. From December through February. Yeah I think Easter's the one. Yeah, yeah. Saying I don't know. There's just a lot to think about. Like like the beginning of the Saviors journey is kind of like what Christmas represents. It's like that has begun, you know, but also I think it kind of represents like the magic of like, like beginning. Sure. But also just like birth in general. Like the birth of life that as, like a metaphor of a thing when it's like it's it's like magical that like, God breathes life into these situations and opportunities and relationships in our life, you know, but then also just like literal babies too, you know, it's like miraculous. And I think that that kind of like sometimes what it alludes to, I also wonder is like we say Merry Christmas. I'm like, is that like intentional? So like Mary really back doored into the narrative of Christmas, keeping it relevant. They don't we don't say Jesus Christmas, everybody say Merry Christmas. But obviously it's not Mary. But it's still like I'll say Mary, anything else? Mary? Times like Mary. What? Not only Christmas. Yeah. What does Mary even attack? What is Mary even mean? He's a Mary. They had a maritime. Maritime? We don't say that. It's not a thing. It's only Merry Christmas. I say Merry Hanukkah. You don't say that either. Merry birthday. No, merry new year. Yeah. So I'm always just like, man, Mary got it in there. She just was like, it's turn me into a verb. Merry Christmas. It's like, what with the double entendre at the bar, you know, I don't know. I'm not sure what's happening there, but. But yeah, I like how you're saying like Christmas is. It feels like Easter's the massive victory. But it's, like also important for us to celebrate, like the founding of the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like having a war hero and then celebrating his birthday celebration is resurrection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rebirth. Like the ultimate victory or like winning the war, you know, saying. Yeah. It's also just like for us, the day of the day he won the war, believe it or not. Which is more important? The guy that would have set us free was actually born. That guy was actually gone. Let's guess. Yeah. We're like, yeah. On this day, God became a human for us. It's crazy. We're into that. You know, that day he paid the price? Yeah. It's funny. Or is that I guess there's like a, like a motif that he's like, because I didn't remember Jordan Peterson just referring to his, like, stories. Like a story was like the worst possible thing happening to the best possible person. It is in and of itself, like an archetypical story, you know, saying regardless, and the consequence or like he. Fuck, I was losing it. That was trying to pull me down. Worst possible thing happened to the best possible person. Yeah, it is more typical. Damn. They'll come back here with it. Like, it's like the consequence of pursuing Christ, like, characteristics and traits is that you're attracting the worst realities into your life because as you're becoming more Christ like, the the problem. So you have to deal with, leveling up as well. Your pastor says, like, new levels to new devils. It's like an easy way to say this feels true to you, though, you know, as you become spiritually stronger, more spiritually strong workouts come to you to help make you more spiritually stronger. Seems like that's why we have an adversary. It's to help mold us into the path that God wants us to be. Now we're the clay, and he's the sculptor, you know, is, our time here on Earth is somewhat of a kiln that will change us into the finished art piece that that God wants us to be intends us for us to be, you know, But that does mean that as you become more who you're supposed to be, I feel like it harder on you. I don't know it is. I don't think it's like a forever thing, but. Yeah. Yeah, right. I guess in theory, part of it's like, as you get stronger, you lift more weight. It's not like the weight is harder. You're stronger. So that way it's easier. So doing more weight, it's not changing the load that's happening to your muscles on some level, but then pass. But then At the same time, there's other times where it's like, yeah, like, getting stronger, but also the weight during like these 2 or 3 weeks got like substantially higher. Then I was like able to handle. It's like the only way to do it was to lean on God. There's other times where it's like really easy to maintain your life and do what you have to do. So, that balance is constantly changing and evolving too. I don't, I don't really know or understand it. But the seasons, like I sort we're talking about Christmas and Easter being is really like the one the victory, the pressure to be the consequence. Oh, the motif that is connected to like Jesus's like story. Story where he's like born into being chased after and like, sought after to be killed through King Herod or whatever. It's like the infant that's in trouble. And the same exact thing is like in Moses's story, too. And he was like, Moses was like the one, that one like Old Testament, you know, since like the Book of Moses is like Genesis, Leviticus, Exodus, like the early books, you know. So, yeah. And then he is also born to the same type of situation and even Game of Thrones, it's like Jon Snow was like born to the same exact type of situation. It's like a most difficult thing, like the and Simba ni know I'm saying it's a good it's just like a common it's a thing that happens in story here. Yeah. Yeah it's true. It's crazy. It's weird. He was born into that. And then. Yeah through the. Oh that was like that was a price surprise. They won the war. Shouldn't be me. Won the war. You won the war. Except I got the good God super good. Yeah I don't know how you define a good god for me that works. It's good. God done a lot for us. 33 years. Well, it. He was going on well. I was different back then, too. It's good. Lord. Couldn't imagine it, bro. But it was going on, bro. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. Like part of the thing that keeps me grounded or kept me grounded the most. When I was the most separated from myself when I touched Nirvana, went to the hospital, was like seeing my mom and like that was a real tether, a real strong actual tether to reality. But God did those. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. I was like, I thought I was about to fucking walk my way with this fucking hospital bed, dog. I'm out of here. Yeah, I just look out the window, you know, my mom. Okay, so I'm real because you're real and I'm real because you are real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's been going on for generations. Had a generation, 20 years span 20 years, and every 20 years or so. Yeah. New generations and generations say, oh, shit, let's make it up for a minute. Yeah, yeah. I think part of that is like the care she gave to you when you were a baby, too. Like, on a subconscious level, you're like, I'm trusting you forever, right? And then she's like, yeah. And then he's like, because you're real, right? And then says, before I was born, but then potentially or like, absolutely. Yeah. Before I was born, for sure. And then I think for you to be like and you're real. Right. And she's like, yes. It's like, you know. What's you off that got your boy? That's a that's a dove. That was, it was enough for you to become get rich. Yeah. No, I was done fighting the story because I don't know if the doctor couldn't convince you. Fuck, no. They'll say, like you've just tapped into a different realm where I was willing to sacrifice everything I ever knew about everything. Fuck what I think I know about anything, bro. Yeah, yeah, I feel like, it was. It was nothing. It was everything. I feel like if I told Demi, like, yes, you're real, she'd be like that dressing. I don't know, it's all I've ever trusted. There's nothing else to trust, you know. It's just. It's true. It's true thing I could tell I watched you have like. Yeah you're real you know. You're not robot. Yeah. Yeah yeah it's wild because when you get out there into the matter realms I think like you're like well okay. I don't feel like that. I feel like we're all one thing. This is all one thing happening here. Yeah, I'm a part of it, I am it. We are all it it it's fucking crazy. But I we're, like, localized in our own little isolation chamber. That we talked about that before. Yes. We're just as much. You're like all crazy dude. It's hard. Almost like I just want this fucking. It's like I was foreshadowing myself. Like I was crying out for help. Don't go crazy, guys. Not is wild. Yeah. It's a lot going on here. It's a lot going on. And then you isolate yourself for the stressors. Get too high. It's just hard, man. So people need vacations and stuff. I wish we had them in a different timeline. Maybe in the future we'll have, like, my sister's going to take like a week off next week leading up to Christmas. Like, that's sick, bro. That's sick. You to pay vacation before Christmas and have Christmas, Christmas Eve off. It's awesome. Yeah. They're loving life over there. Beautiful. Christmas is the best. I guess. Yeah. What do you like more in in both in story and in practicality Christmas or Easter. No I mean because I feel like Easter is the one. It's just a one for sure. It's just the Christmas is more fun. That's when it hit the game winner. Yeah. That's when you hit the game winner Dame Lillard yeah. So it's it's two different things. And they're both awesome. I'm happy I get both. And I wouldn't want I don't want to pick. But yeah you don't appreciate you share as much when you're a kid I think. But then as an adult it's like the other thing is spiritually like fasting for lent is powerful as hell as powerful. And and then you're able to do that, in my opinion, because of what Jesus did for us and does for us and because of the because of the power of Easter. Like that energy is in the air, like the fasting during is during lent is different than fasting the rest of the year, in my opinion. And then then, yeah, you're doing it because you hit the game winner. And then when you get to like the end of your fast on Easter and you're celebrating like the victory of Jesus and you just like completed your fast, which is like all you could do, you know, it's like almost like you got to be a part of the game a little bit, you know? But yeah, that feeling is insane. And I think it's I think it's incredibly transformative for what can be the rest of your year. If you dedicate that that Lenten season to fasting, the person you'll be afterwards will be different enough that that whole year will benefit from that season of fasting. And that's that's very valuable. Like Christmas. I don't even know if Christmas is that valuables. What I'm trying to say. So Easter might even just be a more valuable holiday for an adult. Seriously. But then Christmas is more fun. It's just more fun. Like you get to have, like, Call of Duty fudge, fudge, cocoa. Now, I guess football, football, football started in like there was. That didn't happen before. Back when we were kids. I think Jesus hit the thing, so know what it's like. So it's like, was on a Christmas Sunday. No, they had NBA Christmas Day since I was like in high school. Now it's cool. But this is the first year that did Christmas football for sure because everybody said like, oh man, you just took the NBA thing. That's fucked up bro. NFL is like, move over bro, I don't know, okay? They got big dog like this. Yeah. So but yeah it's cool I think on some Jesus did all of that so that we could have days like Christmas. I think that's like the thing like Jesus won so that we could have days like Christmas and and be okay and just be like warm and happy and together and everything, like be a celebration, you know? That's what I think that Tyler's Sandra, both of them now turn to like. Yeah, like, I probably need Easter in my life more because my life's a struggle, too. I'm trying to get where I want to be. Easter is the one. It's got to be the one that I want for me. But yeah, Christmas is more fun. Yeah, yeah. Like doing Christmas morning with your family and stuff. Awesome. The best. Yeah, yeah. Then transition into Christmas afternoon when you've got your lot of presents and you're going to haul. Yeah. You're going to like start, you know, open a little some. Let me just go ahead and let me start playing Call of Duty. Oh but now only the rest of the stuff. Maybe hang up these new shirts right here. I'm gonna put on this new shirt. I just got put on this cold. Sorry. Let's go. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. Great, man. It was great, man. Where's the budget? Yeah, I feel like the best. They chill. I remember one time I got, like, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater or, like, underground three or a new Tony Hawk. That came out in 2012. And, yeah, it's just the best feeling, just knowing, like. All right, here we go. Army little cinnamon roll some orange juice to start playing the Tony Hawk game, man. It's like you're enjoying the back side of Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, bro. You're gonna play with the new toys. Yeah, I remember there was again, there's like, a Sly Cooper game. I got, like, sixth grade. Oh, this is hard, bro. Listen to American Idiot. Yeah, this is fucking hard, bro. I mean, bro vibing. Oh, fucking freaking bro. Yes, yes. Crazy bro. Crazy times story. Always great. Thank God. Are they got so. Yeah that's a real tether. So I can't imagine living back then. But that's what was going on. It was just like this. The same level of consciousness and awareness. You know, we we just assume that the people from long ago were like dumb. They were just like, uninformed about certain areas of life and things that were to come or that are now like, so obvious to us. It's like I was watching hangover after we went to the green Bay Dallas game and like, they didn't have FaceTime like on phones and that movie, you know, crazy. The idea of that. Yeah. Or maybe they can. Either way, it was just like a it felt like you know, so it was back when we were in high school, it was just like a iPads now. And just all the different when we think we're so technologically advanced are we were more smart, we were more aware of information. Now because we have those tools versus like back whenever we didn't have those tools, which I assume that those people are fucking idiots. Oh yeah. We seen the cavemen. Yeah, but they probably talked just like we talk and not in the same dialect or the same tone or the same whatever, but definitely in the same exchange of communication and information that's always been going on. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's like a super sophisticated thing. We've been in a super sophisticated level for a long time. Long, long time. Yeah. Like 1700s, 1800s, like thousands of years ago. 2000 years ago. How fucking long? It's like, whoa. They were just like this. Yeah. You know, but it's hard to imagine living back then. For real. Yeah. True. Miserable. No, I see smell like rank. You wouldn't even know you're miserable. So it's like your baseline. You're saying everyone's dealing with this shit when you take a bath and you feel clean, there probably still feels great. And then as soon as you start hot and sweaty and dirty and crusty fingernails, I'm sure it doesn't feel good. No. Yeah. I guess your threshold for just dealing with the desire. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Those 2000 years ago, I was just going to the like everything you know I don't know. So let's who was the first like person we have in like scientific recorded history. When did we start keeping track of people. With like civilizations, with culture like Mesopotamia I guess. That's fucking why that paper. But I guess I could have been some before the or like the Egyptians are before Mesopotamia or they're right next to them. Mesopotamia. They're piles of shit. Yeah, for sure is a pile of shit. It could have been more advanced than us, right? Yeah. Who knows? Because it was just like this. Yeah. The pyramids could have been nuclear jet fuel reactors. I don't fucking know. Trying to break the game. Trying to break the matrix. Yeah. Take them out. Yeah, yeah. They're trying to put gold particles in there. I don't fucking know. It's our Bibles. For real. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. But I think that. Yeah, I think the thing that you're alluding to is that at any segment of life, it is life. It doesn't feel like, oh my God, I can't believe I don't have an iPad. So you could always just feels like this. The story is the same. There's something that's to come and there's something that has been yeah, that those people look back at the other people, they're like, I don't know how they did this. What I yeah, fucking bows and arrows back then. Don't know how they caught anything. Yeah. You always feel like you have better technology than the past before we started riding horses, right? It's like all these puzzles. You know how to ride a horse. You got away one one up on that guy, you know, saying. Yeah, it's like moving through life, navigating like how your pussy. I'm gone. Yeah. Eventually. What? Time traveler. Yeehaw! Bitch. Fucking travel through time. I want a horse so bad. I want a horse really bad. I want to go fast. That's the person who's walking now. Some people's life for sure. That was everyone. Probably, who didn't want to ride a horse that year. Around that time when they say it was like, just like, how do you do it? Did you just fucking do it? Someone had to be the first person to go do that shit, ride a horse. The Native Americans were doing jump on it shit. Like I bet I could fucking get on that. I bet like a table. No you can't you fucking crazy man. That's for sure. How it happened. Watch me pussy. Yeah. You be like oh son of a bitch. You break the horse. Jump on its back and ride it out. I guess some horses are harder to break than others. Yeah. You know, but the idea is to say so slow how much they fuck with you. I think it's like you smell terrible. They're probably more likely to be like, this isn't going to be the fucking for me, bro. You're not worthy. You're on me. You focus on veg, you greasy bastard. I get stuck at the fuck out of here. Yeah, yeah. Like if you're fucking go and say some, like, fucking or farm for a little bit before you jump on its back. And yeah, that's what oil farming comes from that do it real gracefully. It's a break the horse. Yeah. It's like, nah I rock with this dude. This fucking go home into this. I'm here for it. Yeah, he's worthy. And they're like, oh shit. Okay, I bet you can ride these horses. And then, yeah, the name makers are crazy stuff on horses. Things are happen and things that have been and how far back as I go. Oh, yeah. Well, we don't know if there's a lot. They say that, maybe there's a civilization wiping events every, like 30, 200 years. So it could be going on forever. It could be every 3200 years. It wipes the board and we start over. Dinosaurs could have been crazy advanced. Right. So the house is. Do they had a run? I remember we talked about that in the podcast a long time ago and it was a run. They were here for millions of years, millions of years like hundreds of millions of years. It's like what? They went on a fucking run. Yeah, they were dead. So we call them dinosaurs. Who knows what the fuck's really going on? Yeah, they might have gotten on a spaceship and been accepted into higher society. Maybe then once I came back for them, I don't know. The pissed off, the International Intergalactic League of Legends of Alliance, they could have been. I think it's a conspiracy. I don't think the comet hit them. The dinosaurs? No. Yeah, I think they fucking pulled them out and then shot a comet down and then left a bunch of bones. Fucked of was. Stuff that looked like crazy animals. Like fucking monsters. There's this fucking dummy bullet. There. I don't know what this was, but I don't know, dude. It's just weird. They're like it. It's weird. It's all weird. It doesn't make sense. They were crushing forever. And then one comet comes and it just changes the fucking temperature. Just enough that the only thing that's really surviving is actually a much smaller mammal. And thus mammal with a monkey. Fish frog. Crazy, bro. How the fuck does that happen? And then now people dominate. Never would have happened. Well, I know what's going on there. I can tell you. You would think about evolution all. Oh, I usually believe like evolution is true. But then also. Right. Just like Jesus made all that happen, you know? Right? Yeah. Why not? Well, yeah. How's it going to be like, why can't it be both? Yeah. Or like in the Bible, it says God snapped his fingers and then made man. It's like a science. Like. If you're using like he's talking about in the Garden of Eden. So like, if you're going to use science to disprove. So you'd have to find the Garden of Eden and they'd be like, yeah, there's no fucking people here or like you, I don't know, like it's obviously some form of a metaphor because there's no literal Garden of Eden that you can trace back. I think I saw there was like, I don't know. Do we have Adam's bones? Is that a thing? I trippin? I don't know, but, maybe or maybe not Adam exactly as claimed as such. But a person who is our, quote unquote Adam was the first person to potentially be another thing. Fact check me. Correct me. You feel me push for a little longer in the YouTube and then we'll move over to the patties. And what a double barrel shotgun today. Cool. This is. Do we have Adam's bones? Where's bones at? The person that might trace back to the first person. There is no verified physical evidence there. Any bones belonging to add on the first people human exist. Human fossils go back 300,000 years ago. What the fuck? The bones, the great. The deeper idea. Saying he's a theological archetype or a representative figure. But, the church doesn't seem to think so. Okay. 300,000 years. What are we talking about? That's as far back as bones goes. As far back as we know that there's people inhabit and popular in the Earth 30,000 years ago. It's kind of crazy. As you just say that bone, how did people go back to here a thousand years? There's bones and general bones do. Yeah, well, I can have such a theory. People. People? Come on. Chat. Come on. Chat. Here's some shit. Okay, let's see what she's going to say to us. Come on, come on. Yeah. It is saying that 300,000 years ago, they find the first human faces. Human faces. 300,000 years ago. Yo, yo. And then Homo erectus is like 1.9 million years ago. Then Australia, the guess is like 4 to 3 million years ago. They walked upright, had smaller brains, not quite human, but online. Taught us mean all this just for real? Part of what makes them. What makes me want to believe in evolution is just like Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson seems to be pretty into it. Makes sense, follows science. But even that. Yeah, even if it does exist. Because yeah, some people are very black and white with it. Don't know, I'm like, I know you're like, following the Bible. Exactly. You know, to a tee. But at the same time, who are you to say you know exactly what it's supposed to mean, exactly 100% human. Translated abstractly. With the Bible all the way back then, like the Greek translations, I don't know, it's tough to go all the way back to. I guess regardless of whatever a person has written, only the person who wrote it truly knows the intention. He's got the intention, but we don't know God's intentions fully. You know, I'm saying we're limited. We're limited beings. I think that right now we're trying to discuss whether evolution and like the way that the Bible describes people being made, like, mutually exclude each other. I guess because the Bible doesn't say, like. And then I decided that over millions of years I would gradually turn something into you. So like, I mean, man. It's kind of tough not to feel like, the Old Testament. Some of that is a kind of predicated in, like, explanatory religion. Try to like, explain stuff. I don't know, let's, let's just let me answer to that question. Come on, man. Okay. I'm getting them ChatGPT train them. Okay. While we jump over to this discussion, we will jump off of the YouTubes continuing this discussion on Patreon. Keep on going on YouTube. We love you! Merry Christmas, keep the Christ and Christmas. Keep the Christ Christmas about these feelings man. Yeah that's what the season is about. Don't forget it. Yeah. Don't forget it I think. What does the Old Testament star in Egypt. In Exodus. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it starts with Noah being in danger as a baby down the river. Bingo. Bango goes up, goes up in Egypt. Let my people go. So we may worship you in the desert. Yes. So I think that there is definitely scientific evidence of people existing before that, obviously, like in other parts of the world too. But maybe that's like where narrative began, you know, maybe it's like we were just kind of living like animals a little bit like we had learned to talk, we learned culture, we learned how to be in people. And it's like, okay, now we're going to start doing some now stories about start. Hey, I don't know, though, you know? Yeah. Because we got there, I don't know. It's your dog is strange. We use the Bible as like the timestamp. Okay, I we all agree. Boom. Here we go. Zero. And we'll build up from there. 1776 is the same to us as it is everywhere else around the world. Yeah, there's a busy time. There's b.c like this is the lament BC time, right? That's before it's crucified. Or it's like it's saying something before is born. He dies in 33 A.D., A.D. it is a cipher after death. I think that's after divinity. That's when he was born. Yeah. Okay okay okay, okay. Okay. So the calendar starts when Jesus is born. But yeah, there's a the last time before Jesus was born. But, yes, but I don't think the Bible saying like that the beginning of all time is right. It's like it's like, okay, cut to Egypt. Barrels and shit. Like, it's not saying like, this is God was like, all right, and action. This is the beginning of life, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, all right. And this is where our story takes place, you know? So I think Yeah, I don't think I mean I don't think the Bible is trying to say like there wasn't like anything going on before this, you know, like I almost think the Bible saying like God made Adam and Eve and then like they populated the earth with like Cain and Abel, and then the children of Cain became like the people who are these, war, machine makers, engineer types who helped to ultimately build the city of Babel and the Tower of Babel. And, what was the place that had to burn? Because there was like, Gomorrah, Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah. And that the children of Cain came to, like, build these places into, like, functioning cities and things like that. It's like then that led all the way to, like, Egypt being in the situation that it was, is like my take on, I guess what I read the Bible, it's not I don't think it's trying to say that like there is nothing before that and that evolution didn't happen. But I think evolution is trying to say that, like maybe that stuff didn't happen. And I'm like, that's that's where it gets weird. It's like, why are you why are you trying to say that stuff isn't true? Because it's I don't think it's like it's truer than true. All. Yeah, that's that's there we go. Yeah, yeah. That's the other thing is you are living in a, you're an idea within a metaphor. That's your life. Your life is you're not a fucking. You're not even really a human. It's like you're like my heart rate. It's like you're a fucking idea that God had. It's like you are a piece of writing. You're a literary element, you know? You're a character. I think it's way more true that you're a character than you are. Like, an a mammal, if that makes sense. So something is truer than true. It's because you're a character in a story is more centralized to what's going on in your life than like you are a mammal. You're just a more efficient. Okay. Exactly, bro. Exactly, bro. Trying to survive natural selection and survival of the fittest. It's like no, that's why. But then yeah, then that's why it makes it. If it were survival of the fittest, you should cut the corner and not self-sacrifice. But it's like you're actually a character in a story who should generate good karma by doing the right things, even if it's at the cost of your. Now you build a karma arm or story credit. Yeah, like your story will be beautiful. Exactly, exactly your story. Someone will make a movie and it's like, that's a good movie, right? A movie, right, cowboy? And that's more important because it's like, why do you want a good movie? Because you're fucking character. That's why you want to be in a bad movie. No, you don't want that. Fuck that. If you're just a mammal in a bad movie, it's not so bad. But if yeah, all you are is a character, it's like all you can hope for is a not a tragedy. Oh, they're fucking beautiful, bro. Well, I think we only thing we talked off YouTube. Well, I I'll probably do that now. Okay. We're switching over Patreon YouTube. We love you. Merry Christmas. We'll see you I love you okay so this is the Christmas episode, but it's gonna come out the week before the week of Christmas. So this is the start of your Thanksgiving Christmas break. Oh, so Thanksgiving is on break, but they're so close together. Christmas break though, Christmas and New Year's break. You good. Like two weeks off. That was great in college creative our school the time of the year's great. Merry Christmas. We love our YouTube. We're see you later. Go on a Patreon. We got merch. We got life. We got Christ. Well I we got more than enough. Before we go top Christmas movie Christmas movie. 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