MINING MY BUSINESS | Trading Cards, Mining in RuneScape & Measuring A Second | The MJ38 Show #116

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Matthew and Justin talk about Trading Cards such as Pokémon and Magic The Gathering, The Hustle in Venezuela of mining Gold Ore in RuneScape to make money rather than working hard-labor/dangerous jobs & figuring out how we measure time precisely. 

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How you doin? How you dirty little Weezy? Baby, I'ma take my turn. I was, I was when he was saying. Don't take a shower. You're just gonna pee on people. Well, Kelly, we're talking about know the Lincoln toilet, but he does kind of take you away from there, you know? Either way, it's fine. We're talking about Pokemon. We're talking about Costco. We're talking about value. Shopping, couponing, saving money, spending money, becoming more mature with your thoughts and your values. Makes you feel different when you see someone on sale to go shopping at Costco. Talking about Pokemon cards. There's certain ways they put together Pokemon cards to try to maximize interests and surprise and reward or whatever. And this is a similar idea proposed with McDonald's is, monopoly. Yeah, it's not for me. There's a whole documentary on HBO about it, about how it was, like, all fake. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I think they came back with it because monopoly. But that was all fake. And like the people who are just making the fucking things like along that chain of command of passing it from the person who creates the thing and creates the pieces that are boardwalk in Park Place or whatever, and like distributing them out to the public like there's a just a passing over from human to human, from air system to air system, who just like going to potentially fall into the corruption path. And so, yeah, that that's what was happening. So, I was just like connecting those two dots. You're talking about Pokemon as well. So I was like, maybe the people who are making like, who's determining who gets these packs? We're talking about San Antonio. They might not get like, the super coolest packs that might get the biggest pop online. You know what I was thinking versus other big cities or what? I guess I think about promotional stuff. Like if they only have like 200 promotional pieces, then I probably gonna send them the bigger cities, like in packs, but like, what's in the pack? That is I think, was it Wizards of the coast is one of the companies that makes them. I think they make Pokemon too. They definitely make Magic The Gathering. They make the cards themselves. They make the series. They make the cards themselves. Like they print them on. There's like a big sheet of paper, and then they cut them off of the papers and then, like, serialize them in a way where they're then randomly distributed into packs and they're like, known to have integrity, to be like the forerunner of what? Like making cards, basically trading cards. And then you see like tops. Yeah, there's like the baseball and the athletic cards. Yeah. Football, basketball all think of what other baseball cards are besides Topps. But yeah, the football cards are not not made by Wizards of the coast. Okay. Basketball cards. Yeah. They also came up with a Disney one called. Look, Hannah, have you seen that that Disney one got, like, can they have them at, like, chubbies and stuff? If you ever pop in the card aisle. It's just like Pokemon Magic The Gathering and then Lord Cana and then it's like based on Disney characters, okay? And they're trying to get like, kids into a new trading card game. Basically the trading and collecting games. Yeah, Yu-Gi-Oh! That's a pattern. Those cards worth anything they got do or something? The hell yeah. The Pokemon, like the front runner. You know. Right. Hold on to those because those are the most expensive. There's like $1 million Magic the Gathering card or right. Is that the most expensive card out there? Well, now, the thing about that one is, Post Malone paid $1 million for it, but he was like, I'll pay you $1 million for it. It wasn't like price that. How do you. It's impossible. It's one of one. There was only one. So like, it could have only gone for $500,000. Or maybe you could have taken it to auction and got 2 or 3 million, I don't know, but then post was just like, I'll buy it for a million right now. And the guy was like, okay, so then now it's worth $1 million. So, you know, that's bananas. Say what? What's something worth what? Something will pay, I guess is like the truest answer. It's crazy. Yeah. But yeah, the Pokemon. So I guess on average you think, most I would say most popular, but the Magic the Gathering cards are, like, spent like, especially the older ones. There's. They're called the Power nine. They were like, the first rarest cards that were, like, more expensive than every other card. And then now they're like, super expensive, like, like, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars for. That's a great, have you know about that process? It's so crazy. It's like rune scape with the fucking. There's an item in there. It's called. It's like a party hat. Yeah. It does nothing, you know. So but it's so expensive. It's just a cloud became a symbol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. I always wear a party hat. It's like. Like I spent fucking mils on that shit, dog. It does nothing except to say you got meals to spend. I love to talk more about cards, but you know what I think is more interesting? What on red scape. Okay, there's a, there's a deep web like conspiracy theory out there proven by science proof. Okay. That that the the economy of the trading. And what do they call the GT's. The grand trading, the GT. Yeah. The grand change or grand changing exchange? Trading exchange. You know what I'm talking about, I don't yeah. The thing where you go buy the stuff. Yeah. Like that economy is like, directly correlated to the world economy. And the reason it's directly correlated is because. I'm sorry. I'm not laughing. This is terrible. No, but but but take me, take me. Okay, so in Venezuela specifically, there are people who just mined gold in ruin scape and then sell that gold to like, a website and then that website sells gold to players and like in like a legal fashion. I mean, legal is like a strong word but is against the rules to like buy gold. And if you get caught, you could like get banned. But people do it anyways. So and like in Venezuela, for whatever reason, culturally people just decided that the money that they were making in their sweatshops and the amount of fatigue and stress that they were going through working in those stress shops, in sweatshops, it's easier or maybe a better life for you to mine RuneScape gold and then save up enough money to get someone to take you to the United States. And that became like a fucking cultural thing over the last 6 to 9 months, that there were a ton of people just grinding roots game, trying to get out of tyranny, bro. Yo yo yo. So the thing with this is like how shitty Venezuela was, was an indicator of how the world economy was doing, and then how shitty Venezuela or is doing is an indicator of how many people were deciding to mine gold on RuneScape. So then when all the gold flooded the economy and moonscape across the economy, because there was so much money, everyone's spending a lot of money. That means people could jack up prices because everyone had money to spend, and then that would make the poor people not able to buy things anymore. And then because of that, then, like you could directly see on a graph, it's like, here's the Cape economy, here's the world economy. And it was like month to month. The world is just on board this crazy world. You saw this, where did you see this? I got a nerdy algorithm. Sometimes it's a conspiracy. Nerdy. And this video just, like, fed right into me, you know, that's that's, That's crazy dog clothes, bro. I'd seen it 2 or 3 times, but I hadn't seen a video explaining the the culture of mining gold in Venezuela was really high. And then they explained, it's because, like, it's an easier job. I mean, if they only make like $5 an hour doing it, if they're good at it, but it's better than making $8 an hour and like breaking your finger or like working a 16 hour shift in a sweatshop with someone who's, like, yelling at you and shit. It's like, fuck that. I'll just stay at home and fucking Grand Escape style, dude, I dude. Yeah. Do you play I shit forever? I guess it's crazy. I wonder how many other video games is happening with people playing all the video games too. I guess people make it. Well, the thing about it is like, no one wants to make $5 an hour, so it's like not worth it to most people to like, I don't know what you would do. I guess like in Madden terms, you could like I have 3 million sitting in my savings account, 3 million coin currency, whatever. And I think it costs like if you were going to legally buy it, I think it's like,$25 for 500 K, so I could sell it for, 50, $150. But if I was living in like rural Mexico or something like that, $150 might help my family not, you know, eat dinner, you know, like, that's just some kid grinding Madden ultimate teams like, you know, they did it, bro. World's crazy place. Let's go with all the internet crazy things. But I guess like, the reality of that is it's just like $1 million Magic the Gathering card here in America would rather work it in and out. That's why I tell anybody. It's like chick fil A, the barrier to entry is really low. The culture is really great and you can make decent money. It's like, that's good for your life no matter where. If you're in a shitty spot and you need money and things aren't going well, you could you could do that and be okay. America offers that, which is cool. Now, granted, you know this if you come in here and you don't have your papers or green card, it's harder to get in those positions for sure. And that's a whole thing we're dealing with, bro. We're all just trying to. Survive. But then attached to that, we're trying to do it our way or like. That's part of it and figure it out. You know, we all have to do that. You know we're all tasked with that. Yeah, there's that there in the image of God. Some people don't. But we're self conscious, are more risk averse and value security so much that they're not trying to do things like their own way. Percent. I think I was saying that Frank Sinatra song, when you see someone who, like, chooses the path that's like individualistic, but then they take like a hit for it, like there's some kind of sacrifice for being individualistic, and then their song plays where it's like, I did it my way. Like a lot of people aspire to, like, be that kind of guy who. There's also that poem by Robert Frost that he talks about like, I think it's called Invictus. And at the end he's basically like, I'm the master of my own destiny. And that's more valuable to me than, like, that big salary you could have paid me or, that relationship that I had to suffer through to, like, have a partner. It's like. No, like, the at least at the end of the day on the captain, my own boat. And that's worth something to some people, you know. That's how we got some people are like, I got security, bitch, I got a house bitch. And I'm like, how much is your soul worth? Like, has your soul happy? Because if it's not, that's like a bigger problem. And just ejecting is like, ejecting isn't going to make your soul happy per se. It's like that's a tougher task. Yeah. She still. You know, we're not like, aware of the, I think the breadth and depth of. I kind of like, just like taking a part in like, you know, saying I think we're like, super, because we have to be we are literally in our own minds with, like, we are part of, like a. A different level of, like a thought pool. Like we're connected. You mean. Yeah. I've seen Pluribus, you know, so Pluribus is like, really one of the most popular shows on Apple TV. The season one finale is already happened, so people have had plenty time to watch it. Skip ahead five minutes. We know what spoilers. It's going to likely come through one of these ideas. This is just introductory stuff. It's alien invasion happens, but the way the alien invasion happens is basically like a frequency more or less comes through and, taps into everyone's mind. So you see them go like, and then they like, wake up, and then they're like a hive mind. And the idea is, it's like everybody is in everybody's mind, but we're also like in your individual body. But you could just like, tell me, like, hey, we need to go do this and, like, but the other thing is, like, you would only know that because, like, someone in leadership told you this thing, but like, the leaders are just, like, appointed arbitrarily because it doesn't matter. Because like, they're all equals. But it's like the grand decision for everybody that everyone checked out and, you know, because you were a part of that conversation too, is that now we're going to do this, this and this, and then the time to move the truck from this spot to this spot is that and like you've been assigned to do that. So like, do you mind moving the truck? And then the person is always like, you know, it doesn't even say anything. Just like they're happy to work like worker ants or like bees in a beehive. It's like, no problem. Like they're all on task doing whatever it is for the grand plan. But then the thing about Pluribus or I don't know why they call it that honestly, but the main character and maybe like seven other characters in the world, they didn't get affected by the world. Okay. And then they, so they're kind of freaking out. They're like what the fuck is going on? Like there's, a government, but they've also like, streamlined everything. So it's like you get free electricity and free food and like the and the nice as fuck. Don't even make your food every day like they come over with breakfast. So like, hey, you doing okay and anything. And then if you, if you were like, yeah, I need a AR 15 because I'm a little nervous right now. They're like, yeah, sure. Do you want to grab like one like they got whatever you want. They're super cool. But then like, I think that that's a transitive idea. Like from a writing point of view of, like this idea of, like if you were to take mushrooms and feel like, oh, everything is everything, and we're all fractals of one diamond, and then God is the light shining through, and I'm just a reflection of God's light through a fractal. But truthfully, it's no difference between you and I. And maybe when we die, we'll come back together just as light and there won't be separation. I feel like that idea got turned into like, this idea is what it feels like to me and Pluribus. And then the idea being that like we're all we are the hive mind, it's just like it's hidden from us by our ego. Yes. The. Yeah, the lens that we're all but we're all dealing with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we need to I think we must need the ego. It's like I think it's the like when a rocket takes off, it needs like, extra jets. And then eventually you shed those jets. I think that's like the we must need the ego to, like, get us in the air. And then you probably need to shut it to get the outer orbit. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise like why would we have it. You know what I'm saying. Why would God design us like this. Yeah. This is what's going on you know. Yeah. Yeah. This door is here. Me buying Pokemon cards by magic. The Gathering. Cards by party hats just to put them on the well, that is, I said, speaking of wealth status, there was this thread talking about there was an app initially and like the first three months of the Apple, Apple Store or the App Store on iPhones ever being open, or you like, go on the App Store and find like cut the rope and shoot, you know, it was just like a red light. And it was like, this app does nothing except remind you that you're incredibly rich every time you open your phone. It's like there are no hidden features. This is just, wealth symbol. And anytime your friend looks at your phone, they're going to see this app and know that you have wealth. And it cost $1,000 for an app that did nothing. It sold eight times. Okay, okay. And then the store. The store banned it. The app store. I think they were nervous because it, like, had just launched because everyone's like, why would they ban it? Like they clearly said what it was no false advertising. But I think that Apple was like worried about being predatory, taking advantage of people. We don't want any, any reason to take down our new program, our new wave that Motorola Razr is dead. It's iPhone for days, and we're not taking any risks. This is what I think happened. But my phone, because we're buying it. Eight. You don't have sold over how long of a period of time? I think it was, three weeks. It's how long the app was up, I don't think I'm think $1,000. Yeah, yeah, eight grand. Yo, I what did you do exactly? I just, I put something on, like your phone, like lock screen. It was just like an app. Okay. And then the app was like a black background with, like, a red diamond, kind of like light in it. And it was just like, people will see that app on your phone and say, oh, fuck, dude, you have the wealth app. That's a, that's a I think when you open it up, it was just like the red diamond thing. Like didn't even like you couldn't even do anything. But how do people see it? You think so? People that were selling point is like, it's a reminder to yourself that every time you open your phone, you're like, yeah, I'm just fucked, bitch. I got the wealth symbol. I drive a Porsche. It's okay. Yeah, that. It was like, also, if anybody would ever borrow your phone or look over your shoulder at your phone and see that you're going to stun them, oh, what a stunner at the well, that. Well that's ridiculous. Yeah. He paid a rack for that. You drive. You've had a rack for that. Exactly. Okay okay. But that's close to the party. That is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's literally what it is. You see this? Well, symbol. One thing I would think about differently. I would buy a party hat as an investment. I probably gonna go up in value, at least retain value. And then you get to wear it in the meantime. And if you only take a 10% loss on a wealth symbol that you had for three years, and you were treated differently for three years and you took a 10% loss on an investment, it's not the worst thing in the world. But then if the rug gets pulled and then party hats where drop in value, well then that would be. So that would suck. Because and that's kind of what people think is going to happen to Bitcoin is that eventually and then it's like, how would it dramatically drop in value a party hat or a Bitcoin? It would have to be something from the structural thing of a moonscape. So like you can't wear this on your head anymore. It'll only stay in your inventory. The, prices would tank, especially when you get into a selling frenzy, because if I see a drop 20% of value, I'm gonna freak out. I'm gonna sell it for even cheaper, which makes other people freak out. It turns into a whole thing. And I think Bitcoin's the same thing, if regulatory wise. We were like. Right now it's considered, property, not currency. I'm not sure if they legally changed it to currency, not property if that would change things. If all the people, all the major investors in bitcoin sold all their bitcoin, that would really fuck up, like, the internal mechanics of its value, sort of utility. You know, there has to be something true that it's doing, accomplishing a problem and solving or something that we need or something that makes something easier for the party. That's not. Yeah, not at all. No. Is different. It's like if it's like a weapon that's like really expensive. You know, I'm saying certain weapons can do servant certain value. Right. Unless mechanically they change what it does, but its value is protected by the fact it's has utility. Party has no utility, no, Bitcoin has utility. So if they took away the pure, well, simple, no utility. Ridiculous. And people aspire to have that, except that makes you feel like more right. Yeah. You see it as well. Or like, to see yourself having it or be to having it. And then the ability to determine if like people are going to be to need this anyway. Yeah. Like the utility that's like the weapon versus a for profit pure party. And maybe the app would increase or decrease in value or would they sell it for, you know, say, yeah, different levels. Yeah. Right. Just make more, more expensive the $10,000, $1 million, dawg. Yeah. You get one motherfucker as the gathering card, the Million dollar Wealth symbol app because you'll get sick. A friend in accounting always fucks and his red dot and be like, you're not even wealthy, though. That's why people go and get the the Pharaoh. Like, still ain't nothing to say nothing. Just start wearing it. And a guy like that, you know, people start talking so much all like all that talk like I, I in security talk. You talking too much. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah I, I don't think, I think in that position you would hold firm. I don't think you'd ever come down on price because even if like you're the interest and you left for the time being, it's like don't the value of the product. It's like just try to re garner interest, you know, because once you devalue the product, it's very hard to revalue the price like increase value culturally. It's like it's acceptable as a person to say like, oh yeah, we were off of that. But now we're onto that because of this, this and this. It's like, that's back in style. But then like, you know, you can see like Olive garden go like, oh, it's like being less of a, like when I was a kid, I feel like that was a much more cool place to go eat food. But now it's more like, like I like to eat like fast food dining. I don't know if you get that perception off guard. Maybe that's a bad example. Fast food dining. Yeah. I feel like there's a new level of like. Like Chili's is almost like fast food dining algorithms, fast food dining, Applebee's. Whereas like, these have a little more gusto to them. Okay, it's all grass is not that thing. They're like, obviously not fine dining, but they're not like Chili's, you know what I'm saying? And I think that, oh, we're talking about Falcon, not Applebee's, not Chili's. Olive garden used to be a little bit more like Sawgrass. But then they. Yeah. The restaurant experience. Yeah. We were like kids. Kids. Maybe I was a kid, so I'm like, am I wrong? But I think that's the thing. I think they sold the Darden and then they drove price points down and try to make it more accessible to people. And then they kind of like lowered the value of their brand a little bit. And now it's like, if I want to take a day to Olive garden, they can take me to Olive garden. That's what I think might happen versus maybe before that wouldn't happen you know. Oh I love I never any pasta breadsticks. Oh me breadsticks. They tell me hey dog I'm sorry. Like oh yeah I do. Yes I love the ego separating us. Don't, don't fucking ruins. Keep them at the gathering. But we're not. We're talking about a marketplace and the economy. Yeah I'm super into that. Yeah Vince gives a shit dog. I'm back in the day. Just. We were. I remember specifically, we were walking to the Wildey from lobby. We had all our gear and everything, and this guy was like, I'll buy your rents, give me for 30 K, and I paid 22 K for it. And I'm like, oh, I do like that is how I make my money. I was like, it's a buy low sell high, buy low, sell high. And I was like, it's just not worth it to me to like give it to you and then go find another process again, another one. Yeah. I was like, but if you pay 40 K for I'll do it. And then he was like, okay, I'll pay for a ticket for it. And I was like, sorry guys, I'll meet you in the well, there you go. Find another rinse. Give me to this. Like that's the name of the game. It's just buy low, sell high. And then it's funny, like like that feeling of like, that's not worth it for me. Like eight grand profit. Not worth it. Make 18 grand profit. Now then. Yeah, I'll do a little more work. And that's just economy. That's just like. That's fucking business, you know? But it was RuneScape. But I remember, like, that moment sticks in my head of, like, having to evaluate. I was like, now that's how if I want to make money, you know what I'm saying? I want to be about my business. I gotta I gotta do this real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard to make money or like when you don't have any money and you look at all the things you want to buy, you're like fucking. I gotta find some kind of mechanism to get shit, you know. Go buy some fucking gold maybe like fucking the first guy to be like to make it out of Venezuela because he was mining room scapegoat. Yeah I know that. Like there's like a path you can take that get your character like the ability to do the quests and do the things that like maximize the mining stat. So you're doing that, you know, you know, just going hard. Okay. There was a point. Yeah. That's like a eventually they've created a mini games where you can like make this or gather the ores that are required to make the armors and the shit. I've seen you in them in the mines before. Yeah. This is like a mini game, almost kind of dedicated to it now. And he's like, grind up to the level to where you can do that for gold. They just make gold. They turn into the GPS somehow. You turn it into like amulets and things that people can sell for to use. Yeah. Or like, high alchemy. There's like certain dynamics within the game that, you know, give it to a boy like this is more valuable. We need this thing. Yeah. It supplies the. Because there's that. Yeah, I guess a whole bunch of different stats. And, like, you get different experience from doing different things. And he has a whole covenant economy of that. It's a whole thing. This 12 is deep, dark or competing with this game is 40 old Venezuelan men trying to make it out of the country. Made like the third grade. Hey, what does it do for you? Right? This is awesome. If you write your password backwards, it'll glow. Keep going hard, bro. If you want to party hat automatically, all you have to do is write your password backwards. What? What? That's like a scam. People are dude roots game in the early days because like, oh yeah, we need your password. It would start out, but if you did it backwards, it wouldn't start out. And then they would just write down your user ID and your password, and then later they'd get on your account and trade themselves all your shit. It's like ten years old. Like it's all my shit you think of in your bank. There's this is dropped everything. Then it's like when you go to switch and pick it up. Oh, man. It's terrible man. Yeah, I guess there's some kind of regulator on it now where it's like, you can't over take too much money for something. Like if it's valued at 200 and 200,000 GB, you can't trade something with 5000 GB. I think it says no. Or maybe you have to say like, no, I want to do this like a few times. We confirm. Yeah, well then yeah, you could just steal their stuff easily. Yeah they did. There was there was a time where they were like, I remember, I remember flash back to when I was like ten. I remember, I remember there was like like drop your armor and then you could, you could trim it. There was a ability to put like gold trimming on your armor, you know. And yeah, I see the trend armor. Yeah. You could, you could you it all in that for let's get it's the gold trim shit dog. And then they were just like where you were. Just take your shit. Oh my God, that's huge. I didn't know I was like, I would think I did it by myself. You know? Okay. Some of them was claiming that in the, in the bank and I was like, really? Let me go see who's not enough to get away from it. But I'll go, let me go down the road on this. But I was like, oh yeah, that locks you out like that. Closes browser. Yeah, yeah, it closes the whole program you're on. It's like task manager and task. Oh, it's so funny. I almost say all for it for the other day was playing a video game with Grace. And if you hit all over. Yeah. I think if you just hit F1, it shows you like these are your abilities. And I was playing like a new character, so I was like, fuck, oh, hold on, what is it? F2, F3 or four out of four? Like, it was just like one of the snaps. The thing. Yeah. So that's the thing, right? I was like, oh, don't do that, don't do that. You know? Yeah. That's so crazy. Yeah, it was a while. Pokemon cards personal.$1 million purchase of a match together in card. Costco. I guess one of the other points I would say was what you were asking. Like, with monopoly, I'm pretty sure that, like, the people at the top were corrupt. Yeah, it was corrupt from the jump. Yeah. Olympus has a couple times before it got to the to the public. Yeah. And then like a dude at the top was like working with another guy down who was working, who gave them to like, his cousin or something. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. So they knew, like, we got someone who's going to win on our side. Everybody else can just like, play the random raffle or whatever. And then they were like, this works. I think they like, did it sort of doing it. So a lot of guys like passing out winning pieces and stuff and just winning the prizes and keeping them. But and then the same thing happened with a now there's a different story about a like a Pepsi challenge or Coca Cola challenge. So if you find enough of these special Coca-Cola's, then you win a jet. And then a guy like did the math and he's like, dude, we need to just go to every store everywhere, buy all the Cokes and just look at them one by one. Because if we get this jet, we're up like $700,000. But to make sure we win, that was another one. They got like abused and then looked bad and post that I got. It didn't really work. But was is the ghost is supposed to have a level of integrity that people appreciate enough that they don't think that like they trust them as a company. And so that's just goes to say that if you have a culture of integrity, it can actually attain value in the marketplace. People, you will be appreciated more, especially as more corruption comes out and people get disgusted by corruption. Then really appreciate integrity. It's hard to put a value on that until you feel the abuse or see the abuse of the system, but it makes his grossed out. Your wife or you're like, especially the women. I'll be like, oh, what a scumbag. And then that directly impact your. Oh, shit. Well, she doesn't like scumbags though. But I have some integrity with, like, things that I've decorated around her that there's a very tangible, easy way for you to care about integrity just because disgust, you know, which is neuroticism, which is a base personality trait. So you can't really get away from that. If someone in your life has high neuroticism and you care about what they think. If you want to, if you want to take the most ego like or root for integrity, there you go. It's like perception is valuable. But in, intrinsically, it's a worthwhile pursuit to have integrity, to have a boat with no holes in it so you never have to worry about your ship sinking. But that's a harder sell then. The girlfriend doesn't like holding the boat. Happy wife, happy life. I think that's one of the reasons I think that neuroticism is one of the core five personality traits, though. I mean, biologically, it's to stay away from disease. When we're cavemen, it's like that. Guys rotting. Don't fucking eat that meat. Like, I'm going to throw up. That's so disgusting. Don't do that. Yeah. I was like, oh, don't worry, I don't know where openness comes from or any of the personality traits of the guy. You know what I'm saying? Part the filtration of the ego. But I guess like biologically, people that had neuroticism as one of their traits were more likely to live longer in caveman times because they didn't eat rotting animals. And, if something smelled bad, they tried to clean it. If something felt gross to them, then they would avoid it. And then it turns out that gross things will kill you. Sometimes. And then that rate is higher in women. Now I'm just calling Jordan Peterson at this point. It's higher in women now because men were focused on things more than people and then also had like to kill and cook or at least kill and come back. And then the women were more like society structure cleaning, washing, deciding what to cook, what not to cook. And so they needed more disgust than like men did, because men had to go into like the trenches in the mud and be sweaty and disgusting and get the kill and come back. That was like higher priority than being grossed out by this kind of gross. Oh, buddy, do we smell bad? Sweaty? Yeah. Yeah, everyone just smells terrible. Everyone just smells terrible all the time. I guarantee I wouldn't smell bad like that. Well, the thing is, is valuable because if the animal smells you, they're gone. So we smell like the forest. That's good. But look at dude, there's fucking lakes, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think the idea that we would never want to bathe ourselves is kind of out there, but apparently historically true, I guess, depending on which had available. I guess at the time I heard the story that the King took too many baths per year, they'd be like, this guy's a pussy. Yeah. What year did that come about? Like 1400s, probably early. Early Catholic church, rising up crusade time. Yeah, yeah. Like our king is such a went to the showers, like once a month. I, fuck is a rich poser. Rich douchebag. Fucking silver spoon. Looking more fuck over here. Yeah. You having some grit on you? Like the kings that have been to war were way more popular with people, usually because they're relatable and went through that shit with you. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, but kings who were, like, politically elected officials through family, like you were this through the choice of the ego, right? Or you're the grandson of a king. Like, the fuck does he know? And then some kings will take it upon themselves to really try to like make a public showing of training a grandson. So they're like oh well the king we really liked, he spent his whole life mentoring this kid. So he does know shit we don't know. But that's also where politics came into play. It's where Rome became like a sign up, you know, saying like, a lot of it was, they realized, like, you can control like we talked about Krampus. Oh, a lot of that was psychological control of population to retain kingship. And then. And then if you listen, listen to Kurt Metzger. That turned into, like, the French and the Illuminati, which turned into, like, ultimately one of the larger controlling programs of like, global global economy. The Rockefellers were heavily involved with that. These rich industry people. The fuck's going on here? Oh my God. So it's just it's crazy and minuses. Tennis. Well, for my dad's like a notable person who's a public person. Don't go, don't go. Blast my dad, please. Says Candace Owens is like schizophrenic. Yo, it's like that. She is off the deep end. I don't know what to believe. I haven't seen much of her sheesh lately. But it's just a crazy structure. We're in here, man. He also said something that was true, and he said, the more you fixate on an idea, the more real it becomes to you. It's like, that's true for any idea, except for one. There's sometimes you are like, you can't convince yourself of something untrue. But if you have someone like Candace Owens who's constantly like, well, what about this? And what about this? And what about that? Like, maybe even you can create your own rabbit hole, and then when you fixate on it, your rabbit hole keeps going deeper because you're creatively finding new reasons to believe it. And that's where it blends into schizophrenia. I don't know if schizophrenia is like a disease that happens to you, that makes you do that, but you could like, put yourself in that place if you're not careful. The same way you can give yourself OCD if you don't control your thoughts. Yeah. The thoughts and actions I think about that kind of like the utility on top of that as well. You know, saying. It's like, your egoic contribution to the social structure of what's going on in the play here, and then what you're. Thing, the perception of what you are in people's minds like is also backed by you doing your thing in your own right, like your actions, you know, saying and it's like the utility. If you if you like, you're a president. It's like there's your egoic contribution to like the thought of who you are. Then also like what's getting accomplished? Like if you're a manager, okay, you know, say break it down like that. Like this is the personality of the person who's running the restaurant. But then it's like, okay, well what's happening? Okay. When they are running the restaurant, right? So you're saying there's like the going personality, then there's like the actionable what happens when you execute that thing into that? And yeah. What's going on here? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's not in the action. It's not about that. Like sometimes a you know. Yeah sometimes I'm, I think like I'm executing the idea of Matthew every day. It's like I, my job is to execute Matthew. And like Matthew is kind of like ideas and philosophies that I've, like, put together up here and like, it is me. It is my identity. I'm not saying like I've dissociated what I'm saying, like, the actual execution of the you how does it impact what's happening? It's like when I go to a table like execute Matthew, what does Matthew do? He gives a nice spiel. He has. Great. Would you say? Yeah, exactly. You know, what do you. Yeah. What would you say here. What would you do here based on what you're aiming at and what you believe. Yeah, totally. And like Blake's going to do a different it's going to have a different result. Maybe not so varied when we measure whatever our measurables are. But the experience will be different. Yeah. Maybe in the abstract the same, but in the execution individualized, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Different and different for sure. I mean Blake's very I mean he's also all our own thing dealing with this fucking thing. That was that thing. Yeah, yeah. He's got to do the job with each other. Yeah. It's like the show. If you're writing for a show, you can, like, make a situation and then you can write different dialog based on the people who you are embodying an idea. Yeah, right. How do they act? Yeah. What would this person. And then you hope the character comes alive. The contribution to the story here that would make a story here. Yeah. Yeah. Like what would how say here how it would say, you idiot. Everybody was like, I don't even have to like, write that dialog. It's raw. Yeah. So what would you say? What would I say? Like, sometimes you can just lean on identity. The idea but yeah. Yeah. That's the two of town action. That's what we're doing. Sometimes it's not so apparent. But then there's other times where it's like a head coach goes into a football team. And the football team like changes its identity because of the influence of someone who's high up on the ladder. Sometimes new coach comes in and the team at the end doesn't change because, you know, they're they're adapting themselves and integrating it into something that's working or in their perception it's working or they whatever. It's a choice. You could decide, I'm changing things or I'm going to lean into this and make micro changes. Yeah, I've been thinking about that idea, the idea of coaching, like in the assistant volleyball team, you know, you say we're doing that. That's a dream, bro. You're living a dream. You can't wait for that. Can I do this? Thank you. Anyhow, bro. I got it for context. Just signed up to be the assistant head coach of his Stepdaughter's volleyball team. Yeah, fine. Not officially, but, you know, unofficially. Sure. Yeah. Officially unofficial. You know someone he's on, though? That's pretty official now. You know, we were out there running drills, you know, saying, like, I want to contribute to the idea of, like, we came here to get better, right? Like, let's, like, organize our time and energy and effort here and getting better. Okay. Like, I want to make sure that that's happening, you know, that's like we're coaching your influence into the program to. Yeah. Yeah I like the idea this I kind of what the staple of the coaches or like the idea of like a, like a self help coach or like a coach, someone who is watching the film and try to break it down objectively and trying to win and trying to whatever that is, you know? Yeah. Oh, I was gonna ask you to check your phone just because we got a text. But then I forgot. But I'm still listening to that. Yeah, but then that was making me think about all the NFL coaches that have been getting booted out. Oh, I do a lot this year. This is like. Whoa, people be changing. Coaches like, often, often I'm thinking about the idea of like, what is, what's going on there? What's going on there? They're all trying to win, but then something just happen. Or like there's like schemes that are better or just. Their business decisions for sure. So like, sometimes a fan base really wants to coach on budget. It doesn't make fiscal sense this year. Maybe it makes more sense next year, but also I think these big picture guys tend to like let's say like it doesn't make sense now. Maybe it makes sense next year, but let's see if it starts to make sense this year. I'm open to that too. You know, like the it's almost like a non commitment until like we're absolutely sure this is like what we're going to do. And then it's like drop, drop a guillotine at that point and make it happen. Felt that way about the Ravens head coach Harbaugh yeah. Oh I feel like it was such a changing of the guard or such, like a dramatic drop off, or just because there was a lot of coaches that came back with teams that were very good the last couple of years, and now they're like poppin like Jacksonville. They were fucking, they were they were popping. And then who else? Who's the coach of them. The Seahawks clone. Yeah okay. Yeah. So he came from the Bucs I don't remember. That's right though. That's okay. Yeah. This is I think there's been a couple instances of people Ben Johnson go to the bears right. Right there poppin say oh shit. That's a traditional he took like the most classic route be successful. Oh, CDC opening happens and then you're hot and pop and you're gonna make the fanbase excited. Let's fucking. We want your sauce on our burger. That's like, the most common way that shit happens, for sure. Like Harbaugh going to New York, that one's kind of nuts. That's another a different scenario where it's like you were the doing the same thing over here at this place, and now you're gonna come over here to this place. Yeah, like he's better than the other guy, I guess. Fuck yeah. We gotta get rid of this guy. But at least, at least put him in jail. At least bald guys names are now very, Dabo Swinney, those are not somebody else. Oh, they so, like, I sucked. Anyways, I like the coaching. Oh, yeah. Of the Giants. Yeah, they will is a double double I think so, yeah yeah yeah yeah. People didn't like him very much at all. He's part of the staff. They got rid of Cyclone Barkley. What's actually this year. Looks like a better decision than it looked like last year. That's really three an idiot. He wasn't that good this year. But anyways. Yeah you some Mo Malik name has been hurt like two years in a row, right? Definitely injured the entirety of last season. And then they start this year too I think. Well I mean I mean this year. Yeah. Okay. But last year he played in Boulder. Yeah I think he he definitely played at the end of the season for sure. He bought out I'm not sure if he was in games I can't remember. Regardless it's it's exciting. That's another thing. I don't know how many how much owners care about this. But New York is excited about getting Harbaugh. And now they've got Jackson Dahmer like neighbors Campbell, Bo. It's like, that's exciting. That's fucking excite. I'm excited for the radio student that they get the Hoosiers quarterback who will die for his team. You seen that interview you guys cracked? Is that the end of the game? Just like I die for my team, I do whatever this team needs me to do, so I back. I'll take shots from the front, from the back. At least his friends like, that's it. I'll do whatever they need to do. We don't need you to take back shots, bro. It's okay. Yeah, but it is after that run. Yeah. Did you see his big run to help win the game? Oh, my gosh, I almost want to show you right now if you haven't seen it. Guys, go watch the quarterback for the Hoosiers. He makes an incredible run to help seal the game. It's like, tucks it down and shakes. Shakes off the deep end, goes up, gets blasted at like it's fourth and five. Gets blasted like three yards into his run, absorbs the contact, turns around, puts his hand on the ground full 360 just dives like almost like Andrew Luck dives gets hit and the and the and his hip on this side and his shoulder on this side. And just like gets through and scores a touchdown. It's like one of the best players I've ever seen. Dude diesel. These kids fired to help win the natty bro. They know that. They're like, that's hard. How do you feel? Like you cool? Just taking shots like that. He's like, I'll do whatever this team needs. Does it literally. It's like, dude, yeah, that's crazy. I believe Alabama, yes, Alabama can, Hoosiers and Miami, I don't know where. I guess the Hoosiers were number one seed, but they're also like, I'm coming into the season. Yeah. No. Crazy. The first team to ever 116 games in a season. 666 in the know in college football I know like the playoffs and stuff. So maybe there have been other teams that did it, but it's sort of set a precedence and first national championship in school history. The coach what's going on there. You know, I mean there's a culture being instilled here. You know, saying there's a the idea of culture like what you are, what's your thing? Whatever, whatever energy you're putting towards the, whatever your idea of like, not disgusting is the ability to have the like, because we have the disgust. That's rotten. Don't eat that for the like was the opposite of that. You're saying? Yeah, I guess like, the opposite of openness will be like closed off ness, but we don't have, like, we don't call it closed. Honest. But then, yeah, I don't know, disgust me like, admiration appreciate or it's like you're going steering away from a negative thing and going towards a positive thing. Wherever that it is, whatever. It's like a good contribution of your thought and action. You. Do you think that to be our morals or whatever, like whatever, you know, there's like a a way to have the hope that like, not have the holes in the boat, whatever that idea would be. You know, I'm saying, well, have you seen the Indiana coach, any of his interviews or anything like that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's like known as this, like straight laced discipline. Sure took the no nonsense. How long have you been there? I think one year. No way. I'm pretty sure. Yo. And then when he gets hired, they're like, you came from a small school, and they're like. So like, who are you? He's like, Google me, ma'am, Google me. Yeah, I want football games and I like that. Or that. Google me. And then it's like all the highlights of him, of his team going crazy. But yeah, apparently he was like a winner. And I guess he was like, maybe he's gonna get picked up by the NFL, dawg. So, you know, they want to make that jump like some people like saying like Saban. He went to the NFL and they came right back. Didn't like it. So the NFL players were divas and entitled too much. The college players were at least, more moldable. NFL players like the phone that make like hundred million dollars. You fuck yourself, Saban is like, well, you're not going to be on this football team. Like you have a contract, so you can't get rid of me like that. And there's like, oh fuck. That's like the the power dynamic. It's not as conducive to like a head coach running a ship. So yeah, that's what I was like because I always made that same assumption too. If you crash at college, you go to the pros because that's what athletes do. But for coaches some of them are not like that. Yeah. I guess it just comes down to the idea of the like I win football games. That baby could just win football games. Yeah, I think he was saying that there was a point where he was like, like a position coach at a smaller school that was having a lot of success. And he was like, if you'd ask me at that point in my life, if I would ever get here, I probably would've told you now. But that just goes to show you put your nose down, work your hardest, dream high. Anything can happen. I was like, I fucking love this guy. I think they're like 101 odds. I think to win the no. To win the lady at the beginning of the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. I mean, the Hoosiers, I mean they never I you never know. They make a run in basketball every now and then. Never in football. It's crazy. I guess another thing that they did is they recruited, more 22, 23, 24 year olds. And like the idea is, is that they're more disciplined and have been around programs more. They know what they're doing. And so you don't have to like, spend as much time coaching culture and that, like, shit paid off. So being 18, 19, 20. Yeah. So I guess like right now everyone's trying to find because like, you know, how the young guys are always faster than like every year the rookies come in, they're faster than the rookies before them. So they're like, well let's find the fucking fastest 18 year old because that's going to be like the fastest kid we can get, most talented, most athletic. So they're really lean and young. And then he kind of like, went the other way. That's it just worked out. So he's cool as fuck. Definitely like a great example of mine because yeah, I think it's discipline, accountability, responsibility. Those are like the three tenets of someone who doesn't have holes in their bowl. And they're very hard. They're like three different fucking tempos are hard as fuck to the master at all. While dealing with that shit. And he embodies them, though he's that's probably what's happened in Rogan. I was just asking like, what do you think's happening there? Something that's like unexplainable kind of to a degree. There's like sometimes there was a time I was uploading like the audio data from the file, just downloaded it, put it into the thing saying that the clip and then at the beginning of the clip was there was audio synced up with the video. And then at the end it was it was like, what's going on here? And then like just randomly like three quarters of the way through the audio track, it just like. Auto started from the beginning again. I was like, why do you do unexplainable things? So like, okay, whatever it was some reason at a restaurant occurs all the time. Restart printers. Something unexplained must be happening. It makes sense that it's in the program. So I'm like, why doesn't just buy another Mac? It must be. The current version of this program has this issue. So it's like if you want to use logic, you might run into that. Yeah. But to hold up our Patreon, I just want to go to like another 15 here and then go a little bit more generally. I just wanna go one long episode for total. I'm cool with all of them. Last time I didn't do a Patreon, so if we wanted to reward the Patreon folks by hopping over right now, I'm happy to go some action back one. Or we can just keep it all free. B for the free T I don't know how many people are paying for Patreon right now. I'd be upset about not getting value for there, and I would show that right now I wouldn't have anybody paying for the for the sheesh. But they can go over there and still find it on patron. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cool. Oh yeah. Just go for patron. Every time I here go to Patreon, I'm always like, oh, I pay up. Let's go. Look, I just need you to support our life. This is our gold. We're trying to mine here. Dark. We're grinding, you know, out there. Hamilton and I wrote my way out. Yeah, yeah. That's what. No, no, no. I don't know if anything we can do can get us to the place where we're going next. Most of the time, it's gone, I guess. Yeah, you can, I think either elevate or the elevate based on whether you can made the right choices from the things that are presented to you. It's like, are you going to catalyst creatively find a spark that no one thought of? And then because you were such a genius and so innovative, your life will change. Kind of like that happens all the time. That's not I don't think that's how it happens. I think it's like you make the right choice based on how you feel, what you saw, what's around you, your intuitions, intimations, and then because you made the right choices, then the season changes and you either like get better, get go down. Through these tiers of. Yeah. And then the I was thinking about the like in a year or two over a year if you want to. Yeah. I was saying we could just do the whole thing for you. Okay. Yeah I'll do let's go. Yeah. But there's, there's like, I was thinking about a job where he's like just doing the thing, but he's just, like, going down, down, down, down, down. But then even in the end, he does, like come back, you know what I'm saying? He does get blessed. Like, even if you are, if I can just it's he can the story can break in the other direction better than what you've perceived. Like you know, saying way more justified for the suffering that you've gone through. Yeah. The bubbles and beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. And that's just making the right tone here. It's all in your mind to time. Find your frickin head. Dig within. Not all in your head too, because you're the actions. Yeah, it's both for how you perceive what happened from your actions is in your head. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And why you made actions was in your head. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that's what I saw. My sister I was like you can think you're so jujitsu. Yeah. Yeah. There's also effortlessness. It's like sometimes jiu jitsu is so much clenching. It's like you're clenching in too hard almost but then effortless. This is just like so like don't even hear the criticism. Don't even feel the constraints. You're just like cooking. Just floating. Yeah. It's like everything's going in and I'm just gonna stay in this flow state. Yeah, but there's other times where it's like, you have to think. It's like I have to block out and I have to, like, play this guy pressed up on man. Not like I know I'm tired, but push through the fatigue. Push the tired, run the floor, run the floor. You got to like, think that shit or it's not going to happen you know. It's like time for both spend effort and conscious control trying to put your energy on that. Choose the energy that you give into that goldfish and. Yeah that's a real thing. Yeah. Coaching dude. Tombow. What I'm talking about amps. Playing amps. Yeah. Really that I'm trying to get there but a lot of it in the book of job, comes down end comes through, always comes through. I'm like, of course it is. This is the character of God, you know, and it's not even in your lifetime. We're so short lived for so, so I so, like having kids is like. Your ability to try to progress this, you know, I have no idea. Like, we do have past lives. My past life was my dad. Yeah. That's like not. I'm not conscious to that, but my DNA is like, my inherited biology is. Yeah. And there's stuff that he did. And because of what he did, I have a different life. Like a better or worse life because of, like, like my dad would've just been a raging alcoholic. And then because of that, like, abused me. My life would definitely be worse because of that. Like, the same way we're talking about, like, if you are live a shitty life now, you might end up a cockroach in the next life. And it's like you'll just make your kid a cockroach and then what is he going to do? The the pressure for him to go down is way higher because of his starting point. So like, the best you can do is try to like, yeah, break that. Whatever the sense of generational curse. Yeah. Dude, this is like seven one. The sins of your father last seven generations. That's because it takes like that many years to shake off alcoholism, in your DNA to, like, get get it out of your possible inherited sequences. I was like, just because you didn't inherit the addiction gene doesn't mean that your kid won. Inherit it. It's like that's that's what I'm saying. Since your father last. Yeah, that's when I was thinking about, like. I don't like that there. Right there is reincarnation. Like, at least insofar as that thing. Yeah. The thing that's animating us and getting you. And then you pass the thing that's animating you, you want to something else that is now animated by that same thing. Yeah. You know, like I'm attached to that thing or what that thing to do. Well, yeah, I think is me. You said yeah, to a degree. Yeah. I was like, but I'm also me. But they're also my influence, my coaching, you know. Yeah. Like when you're sitting with your kids, it's like clearly not you because you love it so much. It's like, I don't love myself as much. I mean, I do, but not like that. Now where, like, wells up in me, you know what I'm saying. But then like at the same time this more metaphysical principle. My source. Yeah. Like the every my actions, my decisions who I am definitely impact our life like 100% and who should become you know. For sure. Yeah. It's crazy man. Past lives that the this I think I was talking about on a pod previous. But like the thing the past life is just like the, the, the thing that's animating your dad that's animating your grandpa. And then it's like there were down and down. The same thing is animate that animates and animated them, is animating you, and you're just a part in that process of being animated. You know, I'm saying if I'm being animated for people life, being alive, being in the egoic one on one okay thing, I think of animation as like urge sometimes, like I have an urge to go play basketball, like, something in me is animated to want to do something that is like, I can't really put a finger on why it is I want to do that. Yeah, I guess you like your your illuminated in your animated, like the light that's turned on and then your observation of the actions that are taking place. Like how, like the physical urges or the physical sensations, the the doing the things, the being being the thing, being the human. Yeah. And the thing that was animating them is animating this, like me, you know, I was like, looking in the mirror on the on the trippy trips. And I was seeing, like, the reverse time lapse kind of, you know. Yeah. Crazy like, like back in the how long dog. Yeah. How long? Adam. Whatever. Something something. Regardless. It's like that. That thing's. That thing is weird. That that thing is beyond, you know, the thing that illuminates us to even be able to think about things at all. What is thinking like, come from this is happening all the time. Yes. It's just so happening. But yeah, we're illuminated for a certain amount of time, no matter how long, you know, like like you're going to pass on. Yeah, it's going to happen. We haven't figured out immortality. At least. I don't think so. No, no. Yeah. Life is it's short for sure. And it's definitely real because you're you like I like going to give it a it's like your daughter's now she's like a part of your story and like, you're a part of her story. And like the it's more real with the social implications than reality are all just sharing the same thing. But like, we are the thing. No two at the same time. Yeah, yeah. It's true. So it's like it's definitely as real as your past generations. But it's hard to think about like really like what's going on here. What have we been doing for like thousands of years? And it matters and it doesn't matter because like yeah, the constraints are different. Yeah. My life is different and it's individualistic and they're not they're not in my suffering. Like if I don't go buy groceries they're not going to feel hungry. So it's like it's funny. Yeah. It's like everything's two sided like that. And it's like it matters so much that it defines everything that you do, but also has a relevance to right now. But then what you choose to do with your right now, but still what you choose to do, even though it means nothing but like it means everything. That's like why it's important. Make the right choices for the wrong choices have consequences and that those matter. It's everything. So you can't just like say, oh, fuck those consequences. It's like, no, they're going to fuck you. Like you can't say, just say like, I'll do whatever I want. Yeah, I guess is there like an inherent I think there's an inherent call on your life. That's a grand question right. Is there something you're supposed to be doing here Jeremiah 28 1129. Yeah. In 2011. Yeah. There's a point for your life that's been written out before you were born. And then there's another scripture says, God knew you when you were in your mother's womb, like before you were even in your mother's womb, got into you and made you, like, handcrafted. You perfectly. So those are scriptures to me. Point to. Yes. Like there is a story like you came into. It's been scripted. You've been cast action. You're in the story now. It's not just random chaos. So call on your life. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah I think it's more nuanced than just like I was made to be a veterinarian. My grandfather was a veterinarian I love animals, I think it's like that's like A1D version of this. I think it's like a 3D version. It's like God is like constantly moving you into different places to, like, round out your personality traits, to help you come out of your shell to be the best version of that you could be, and then give you all these experiences so that you can have a maximum moment of impact on as many people for good as you could have. It's like we're just like way to simple to understand that though. Yeah I think the same thing about that. I mean like she's like your story is like I don't know what's gonna like unfold to me too. And I'm like interested in that. I'm not writing that story. You're not writing that story per se. Like we're playing parts in this play. Yeah, yeah. So I'll play my part really well and like, encourage you to do the same, you know? Yeah. Just cheer for a character arc or whatever. Yeah, yeah. An easy life. Not a easy life. It's a good life. Yeah. Life. Doppelganger life, like ups and downs, were way more ups and downs, you know, a beautiful story. Yeah. I mean, that is a dope show. I hope it was dope. I hope it's dope. It's the whole. But, like, I don't want her to like it. I mean, this is just, like, fucked up shit just to, like, throw some shit out there, but it's like. Like Gary Battier. Amazing life. Like the actual person. From Remember the Titans, the. Okay, okay, okay. The linebacker, left side, wrong side, the white guy. Like he gets into the car accident. Yeah. Like that really happened. And then he really didn't get to play with his teammates anymore. But then he really went on to be a Paralympic gold medalist. So that's a beautiful story. It really is an awesome and long run. They didn't quit. It became like a symbol of like that fucking guy, that guy, man I want to be like that guy. It's like, but I don't want my dad. I'd rather my daughter just win the championship than have to go through all of that. Oh my God, you know. But then at the same time it's like really really like when you're dead. Really like when she's dead. Really. You don't want like the best story that could have happened. Yeah. Fuck. That's why there's like a transformation for. Like a kid's movies like going to win like the the movie of the year, you know? Okay, more than likely it's going to be like, something more sophisticated where the characters are more nuanced and in depth instead of, like, 2D. Simple, bad guy, good guy. It's like everyone's complicated, you know, and like a I think a good it was like Jamie Lannister's kind of like a socially accepted, like person who's like a super weird kind of story, character arc. You're like, run against you hate him at first, then like, you're like, you learn to empathize with them a little bit. Some like to a degree that he has like redemptive moments with Brienne and then he, like, has a weird for like fucking kind of ending. But ends up also saying bullshit. And he's a super complicated character. Like that's way more in depth than, like Bluey, you know, if there's something childish and simplistic about the way we conceptualize the ideas of people, you know, saying, yeah, yeah, but the truth is, they were all super, super complicated. Yeah, I couldn't agree more, Alicia, specifically, but generally we're all the same. The general skill, and we're all deal with the fact about dealing with that, that it's all crazy. Steph was pushing do whatever they got to do. I don't think people put this much emphasis on pushing. So like they're keeping on keeping on for sure. Yeah. Because if you are Goggins, that's for sure. There's not a lot of Goggins is. So do people. Yeah. Like searching for meaning or trying to discover they're there. Jeremiah 2911. Yeah, I guess I was kind of like one of the basics of the early of the starting point of some of this questioning. So I call up people's lives. You call on your life, I think so, I think there's so there's there's something you're supposed to be doing. I'm pretty sure, you know, and I think the thing is, I guess hopefully you are trying to strive towards whatever that thing is. And then I think changes over time because you have a limited view and then something is just like a domino effect into different situations. Or it's like the idea we were doing, like the music and like the podcast kind of like came about. And then that coupled with like the things that we were doing, just like in our work life was like talking to tables and being on the spot, you know, like, oh, I'm what people are. Yeah, yeah. Freestyling. Like people are super uncomfortable on camera sometimes. Yeah. And I was like, I get it, I get it. You're sure? But yeah, I was trying to capture the authentic, authentic conversation. Yeah. You know, authentic moments. So like. That's the thing you're trying to make the movie seem as if it's like if you're making a movie, you're trying to make it feel like this. It needs to be authentic whenever it's, you know, if there's inauthenticity in the scene into whatever we're trying to capture here, it's like we can kind of feel that, yeah, we're we're checking physics, too, because it's like observed objects move differently than unobserved objects. So we're trying to act like unobserved objects while we're, like, were observed obviously, by the camera. But we want we want to be observed by like an audience. So like right now, an idea of a person. Welcome back. Who knows what things we happen. Nobody knows. Nobody knows or cares or just doing our best to figure out why. But it doesn't matter. Because in the end, God will bless you. That's what I like about you, your kids. That's the other thing too, because you have, you know, like passing on your sorry, then you're passing on the next iteration of existence and the light. It's like you're coming into the light. It's always just like this. Life is super short, right? Especially when you compare it to eternity. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like like if you go to heaven, that's a blessing. Like you're going to be. Life will be. So it's not life anymore. Eternity is awesome. I don't know how much. I don't know how to talk to put into this life at all. Like, I think that's part of why I don't know why the monks do what they do, man, that's a bad example. But yeah, it's like it's like a good dog. It's like, I don't care if you like. Ultimately, I'd love to get a tree, but I'm not begging you for a tree. You know, I'm just going to be a good dog. But yeah. But then I know my, I know my owner and my owner is like an awesome owner. And if he doesn't give he's not giving me a tree. It's probably because like it's not time for a tree or he doesn't have any right now. But he's definitely going to get some it's ending with this one. The parental relationship shedding light on God's relationship with me is one of the most valuable parts about having a kid. There's like, there's specific moments where Demi is like crying because she wants food and I am literally making her food, and it's just like, she's so upset and I'm like, I couldn't I couldn't get it through any faster. Like, all I'm doing is making you food right now, and I'm like that. That's God for sure. There's times where I'm like, super upset and God's like, I shouldn't be getting you where you need to go any faster, but I'm not really being like mad at God, but like, understanding that, like, it's not like demi cancer. It's like she's not mad at me either. She's just upset. But if I could express to her like it's coming literally as fast as it possibly can. So, like, whatever you're feeling inside, like it's happening, you don't have to hurt or be afraid or like, nervous. The food's not coming. It's like, if I could just tell her, like, as soon as it could possibly be there, it'll be there for you. I think it would subside some of the negative emotions she's having. But then I could decide my own. When I scale that up to God in me, I'm like, okay, God's working as fast as it can. And like, maybe this doesn't have this thing right now, this ingredient right now, it's like, this needs to happen for this to happen, for this to happen, then he'll have meant then he can make a mojito or like, whatever, you know, I'm saying, obviously God can make anything happen is omnipotent. Omnipotent. But I also think that there's like an optimal plan. Maybe. Yeah. And yeah, give yourself time. Time is the only thing. Yeah, yeah. It's also like and one coming in the time that it takes to build it or to create the food, you know, you know, for the thing to come to remedy the opportunity. Yeah. The story we. Days are getting shorter and shorter. That's true. And that's been like we operate in days. But yeah, operating in eternity. I had a hack. I was sober when moving into moving the thing about decades always saying like, how do you know that? Like when your watch takes a second, that's like exactly one second I like, I guess you pull out your phone and be like, okay, start like. But then how do you know every phone is like one second? What's the second? I think it's I think it's all based on like the sun, like with a 24 hours like going around, but that's also off. So we have leap days. But I guess with leap days it works. But I think new changes a little bit every day. Like where the sun is when it's noon. Is it always directly vertically up from here? I think it's different, a little different every day. Yeah, I guess I could definitely, spatially. Yeah, yeah. But I guess what we're saying is that I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Wasn't there an element that's possible I, I that goes like one, I forget the exact connection. Butchering it to death, monitoring it to death, hacking. It's a fucking hack job over here. But I thought there was an element. Perhaps that's like, we use as a standard for time to mention, like, a second. I forget what capacity that would make sense. Okay, that answers my question, because it's like with a ruler, it's like this long. It's like we have like, fuck no, that's problem too, because it's like as you get smaller, it's like, well, a centimeter is 1000mm in a thousand, a millimeter is it's like, yeah, but how do you know, like the accuracy of just like the one unit, you know, like same thing. It's like if I think with a clock, it's like, we agree, like, this clock is right. I'm like, okay, but like, what is this like a second is like, what determines what's a moment. Yeah. Yeah. We're just what is this thing arbitrarily sectioning off time. And then we've got enough computers to be pretty close to like what a second is. You know, if your computer's off it actually, your computer's automatic sync with like, the Microsoft clock, so. So it's not like it's running its own clock. It just like checks. So often it's like, am I still on par with what the Microsoft clock is? So it's like, I'll get that. So if that one gets off it readjusts like your watch can just like stop working. That's different. That's like, how would you readjust that? You would find a clock that you trust. Okay. Well then like which clock do I trust my computer clock. Well I don't trust that one interest the windows clock or who do they trust. It all goes to like a trust system of like basing off other clocks. Maybe they've been shortening seconds on us. Do maybe that's why the days feel faster. Yeah. We just haven't noticed. Now the sun would tell us the sun or tell us. So. Yeah you're right, you're right. And that's the sun. The seasons. Yeah. Illuminate it. Stealing the sun. And then the series of the sun. Yeah yeah yeah. No you're right I said I'm like a crops girl. But on some level they are kind of. Yeah it's subterranean. Yeah. It's a name we put on a thing that we call time passing or whatever that is. We call it a time passing. Yeah. We're thankful for it. I'm like I like having a watch and stuff being illuminated. I'm not mad at seconds we're illuminated. Oh yes. Experiencing what's happening in here now. You ever like, been at work and like, the clock in clock is like two minutes later than every other clock. So nice though. Like the the clock you clock in on. Oh. It's a little earlier than the little that's like. Yeah, a little slower. So you got there like 502. You're like, fuck.

But that one says 5: 1:08:12

00 and you're like, oh, I fucking love this one. Nice, right? I think it was like the, the cafe la. I would get like, am I watching my phone in my car? We're like relatively saints. But if I was running a little bit late, that clock would always be a little bit generous. I was like, you're such a sweetheart. I always forget every time I forget that you're going to be a little sweet to me. This nice slice. Yeah, yeah. I set my clocks like that. Like the clock in the bedroom, in the kitchen. Like this is a tackle. Minutes forward to come up. They've been too many. I'll know. I'll start adjusting like. Yeah. So. Oh, I say 15. Yeah. No I know it's like 15 minutes. What. What are we talking about? That's the big jump here, kid. I gotta trick myself a little bit. Yeah, yeah, trick yourself a little bit. Oh, no. Give me some a minute. Wasn't deftly, literally manipulating my psyche. Brainwash was a success. Yeah. True, true. Everything's brainwash every day to say I don't believe in something. Yeah, I belief. Yeah. You gotta put your stock in something. I've been on something. Beliefs a crazy thing. Yeah. Basing how I'm acting, what I'm doing. Where's I color from? Some of it's just fucking egoic survival. Most of it. And I don't know what it's like to never have taken mushrooms anymore. Forgot a long time ago. But I do remember that my interest in like why I was doing things and then doing things predicated on why, like watching my own film and saying like, we run this, right? Like shit like don't do that anymore. Especially now that we know we run it like shit. But like, I don't I don't have that same kind of intention before psychedelic experiences. That's all that sometimes I think other people don't quite have that intention. Why do I do this? I don't get great results when I do that. And then here's a more proper way to do it based on examples that I trust. So let me try to emulate their behavior. So I maybe that's just your frontal lobe closing frontal cortex. Cortex I don't know, literally just maturing for sure. That's a real thing that's going on here. There's a depth that happens from the child to the Game of Thrones, you know? Absolutely, absolutely. And it's it's dope. It's dope. This is way dope for. Yeah, it's way. I don't know, the game is more intricate and complicated and the and the game is just your thought mental jujitsu of what's going on here. And you're able to analyzation what's happening. But say what would you say. But just before this. Oh I just the brain developing. Yeah. It could be just like, like literally your frontal lobe cortex closing. It's like, that's when you start to be like, why do I do the things I do. But it's so to get into more of like a coaching aspect, you're saying like yourself, what's my motivation or I doing here. Yeah. What does a win look like. I'm trying to win I want to lose. Yeah yeah. There's a game all on here so I don't, I don't have good parameters to like 12 rules for life for such great parameters. So like here's fucking a system. You can try the rules of the game. Yeah. It's like do this, do this, do this. To this, do this. Things will be better. It's like, okay, all right. Fuck I don't I don't have any kind of like direction before that's a hit and I should be hit in here. We have in constant very regularly conversations people saying this is amazing. Let's different day time bestseller, global tour, trying years. Yeah. It's like this some of the rules of the game here because there's a game here. It's a game. Game has the connotation of like yeah, like a kids thing. But it's a. Just a thing that's happening. And then we're trying to measure that. We call it seconds and time, but we're just playing the game. So it's like the worst players and you could show, we could show that. We could show. You guys are working in and out. Just be in that room. Yeah. Just handle the now circumstances. And I think a lot of people are doing that. Think it's hard to want things to want better for your life. To be ambitious is a difficult thing. Also is ambition a good thing. Not always. I think it's. The best maybe vain or type of ambition is like just like the wildest thought of like time wise conceptually like generationally thinking of, like what's like satisfying sacrifice. Yeah. Like natural selection at this point. Give yourself some time or some grace to build something. You know, I'm saying, look, I work a little, I'll cook a little bit, but we also have to live in the here now and this thing that we call the second. It's like we have to act in the second, but we're also like, we have to we can think about whatever, you know what I'm saying? But it starts in the second. And then sometimes your seconds just drawn away from me and, you know, like consciously thinking about like from the second outward to generations, decades. So it's from the outside. And that's like the truth of it. So give yourself some grace because there's some there is time, like, like a cook. But also it's like the, the second, the second thing, it's irrefutable that. Yeah. How do we measure the second whenever you're restarting your clock, you know, like what are you going to align yourself with what's like the proper time? What's the true reality foundation of what's happening here? That's why I'm always troubled about the fucking calendars and shit, dog, because we're just like, agree. We agree. It's Wednesday or whatever. Friday. Yeah, we need it. We need it. Yeah. This is a part of the rules of the game or any of the organization of our time. We put labels on this. It's a Rockefeller concept creation. They created week so they could create work week so they can create factory workers. And I'm just kidding. But Kurt Metzger might feel that to name something, you know, saying what you name something and then branded as forward, you know, it's like, why? Why did you do that. What's the alternative to just exist in time? I think we don't really have months. Just like it's cold outside. Now it's hot outside the and this was happening like we call it like kind of like here it's January. It's like it's fine. All right fine. Anything. But let's just redefine words. Words don't define themselves. Whatever it is we call it January. But it is like it is it's here experiencing the is. Yeah. There's also like oh first one of the things that I want to bring it back to since we brought up Jordan Peterson almost said this earlier. But when you were like do you think there's a call in your life? I'm like, honestly, I don't even like need to like ask myself that because someone I trust innately has told me that there is. And he spent a lifetime working on psychology, psychiatry, philosophy. Like he understands. Dive into the car. There's one channel that Nietzsche. Jung. Like the great thinkers, the thinkers of our time, to the point where he's like, absolutely. This is calling your life, right? He wrote a whole book on it. So I'm like, I don't even really feel like I have to think about that too hard on one hand. I mean, like, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, obviously. The other part about just like suffering in your now because you don't have you're not where you want to be. That's, that's, that's a little ridiculous. I think now being a little more mature, it's just like, first of all, it's the day that God has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. It's like that, isn't it? It's like I'm I'm just I'm pointing to the rulebook. I'm not saying, like, every day you should be like, yeah, God made this day like, almost a practical best is going to happen. It's like the Bible is a library of parables. It's like, what does that mean? It's like it's a rulebook that has stories, and those stories have metaphysical meanings, and you're supposed to abstract and interpret the metaphysical meaning and then take it and then apply it into your life. So, like the parable is, this is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. But the interpretation is like, this is a good day. Like this is where you're supposed to be. Like, what's happening is what's supposed to be happening. You perceive good, you perceive bad. But like, this is what's supposed to be happening on some level. Hold your water, make your right choices, and fight to another day. Don't give in to the adversary and God will come through it for the rescue. It's like that's that's what it is the whole way through. Every time. That's like, that's a character of God. Like, you almost don't even have to like me. I'm the thing generating the entire experiencing thing you're experiencing. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. So, like, I keep pointing to scripture lately, and I feel like people are like, that doesn't help me. I'm like, okay, because you're not interpreting it. I'm not saying, as in like base level, like, yeah, these words don't always a hallmark card is not going to help you. But like, and sometimes you read a hallmark card and you're like, oh, the sentiment feels good. Like, that's not what I'm doing here. I'm not trying to give you a sentiment that makes you feel good right now. I'll give you Rocky. Yeah. No no no no. I'm like telling you like the schematics of the game. I'm like, when you get to level three, then you get the two and you're mad that you don't have the upgrade, but the upgrade comes for free later. Like, don't stress out. Burn all your capital trying to get an upgrade that comes for free later. If I just said it like that, you'd be like, oh, okay, cool. It's like, we don't have that per se. We have like a library of parables that are out that you need to interpret. Except for what Jesus said, you don't have to interpret that. But Jesus was more like literal. He was like, they're seeds that like the oh, I forget exactly how it goes. But, and a whole lot parables. Yeah. Right. Yes. And but then he's like telling you, it's like this is a parable for you to be interpreted. Yeah. The seed that fell on the good path is like, why can't you just tell us, like, exactly what to do, like, because, yeah. Because this is a made for everybody and the people that don't have the heart of a Christian, the heart for Christianity. They will read this and they won't get it. They're gonna say that sentiment doesn't help anybody. Like, but the people that understood like for them, when they commit their heart to me, they'll understand that these are parables that understand that the underlying meaning, and then they'll be able to apply it to their life. That's why Jesus said, these spoken parables are why God's using parables. Well, Jesus is God, not man. It's nice. It's nice and nuanced and meshed the yeah, the as a deed through step through. Yeah. But then the riddle it all and back it was a couple things I'll say. One was Jordan Peterson, the other one was like suffering in the now. Yeah. I just don't think I think that's all garlic stuff for the most part. There is like not being the person you want to be. But there's also just like steps you can take to become more like the person you want to be. And then if you're making becoming the person that you need to be. Yeah. To have the thing that you want to be. Yeah. There should be something soothing about making the right choices. Or it's like, yes, yes, I'm headed towards my goal. Even though I'm not at my goal. But then the problem that we're talking about is in between. It starts to feel like maybe you're going to get lost at sea, maybe the storm's going to take you, maybe you're going to run out of energy. You can't paddle anymore. But from everything I've ever read and heard and believed, it's like that's all, to calm the storm. That's all a mind game. That's all. A mind from the adversary to make you compromise your conviction. And you trust that that's the relationship. Like the love and the trust and the conviction. And it's like it's like someone told you that I was talking shit about you. I think you'd be more likely to be like that. Doesn't sound like Matthew. I'm going to go ask Matthew from a place of openness, not from a place of fear. And that's our relationship. And the same thing with your partner. Someone's like, I think your partner's cheating on you. It's like, if you have trust and you have love and you have compassion, you have a relationship, you're more likely to be like, I don't believe you more than I all of a sudden have fear of my partner. I feel like the same thing with the adversary. They're trying to get us to compromise our trust in our love in Christ, and then freak out and be like, you did what? To me? It's like, yeah, no, don't you know who I am? Like our relationship? Come on, dude, and so I think that's like the constant battle there. Like, that's the only battle almost, you know, that's it, that's it. It's God, the thing generating the experience. There's like, I'll go experience it with you. Say it. Yeah. Make it not so much like a you don't even know what I'm going through that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You know, you know, I'll do it. I'll do it. Also you has done let me say has does like perfectly. Yeah beautifully the best hero ultimate sacrifice for perfect person. The heartbreak heartbreaking. All the people around him were like no. Oh a single Peter that's the other example is like Peter walking on the water. It's like couldn't compromise his fear or compromise his conviction that Christ was bigger than anything to the point where he can say walk on the water like it's cool. That's like a first. He's like, all right. Yeah. And then but I think at first it was kind of like, we don't know, because The chosen kind of depicts it as like this moment of like, I trust you so much. I want to do this, to let me do this with you, let me walk with you. But I almost wonder if it was like an ongoing thing to be like, dude, like me, like you do anything you could do, anything you could. I don't know, I never came from a place of like, if you can do anything like, let me walk on the water with you, or if it was like, oh my God, I'm so convinced in this moment that you are so powerful that you could even command me the same way the the Roman soldier was like, you have authority. You could just say it and it's done. That's a lot of the things. Like, if I touch your cloak, I know it'll be done. You're rewarding faith, you know, you can literally change the entirety of the matrix that I'm experiencing now. I will move, but you are the Christ. If you say so. Yes, like for sure. So maybe Peter was inspired in that moment to realize that thing. And I was like, let me, let me walk with you on water. And it's like, okay, come on. But then like at some point he stopped believing that that Christ could like, that's that nothing bad. What happened? And then that's when he came back in. Yeah. A little bit like like what's going on here? This can't be reinterpretation of the moment. Yeah. Like you are walking on this water. It's like this is. Oh shit. Oh shit. Almost like when neo is flying across and then like, doesn't make it. Yeah. Yeah I think that's kind of like just like one thing that I've definitely noticed is that a lot of it is just like do you believe that Jesus is matrix breaking. Okay. Now how about with pressure. How about if we send the DNA on a blitz. How about you're throwing a pass in the drop in the coverage? Like do you still believe that Christ is matrix breaking? Then it's like, don't be afraid. But we, the ego is so hard to dislodge from. It's inseparable. Yeah. That's true. That's actually yeah, you can make decisions outside of your ego, but it's not like you've dislodged the ego unless you're real deep on on the micro. And so the monks are trying to do, you know, maybe that's what it's about is making decisions from the fractal place for the whole. Because if you're in the hole, you couldn't make decisions as a fractal for the other fractals, it's like being a fractal, but making whole decisions is like, I think that that clicked in my mind was like, oh, I think that's what it is. A lot of times it's like, if you were just you and I was just me, like, I would like, just robbed people, right? Yeah. Let's give me a capital. We were brutal back in the day. I feel like Genghis Khan is shit. Yeah, it's it's conquerors. Real crazy people. Crazy people talk. That's crazy. Somebody didn't just kill him. That's what happened. A lot of Rome orchestrated of Sherman Fox trap. There's much more turnover in Rome than there wasn't, I guess. Not getting it. I was just running. Running, running? Yeah, running. Yeah. I'm sure there's people. I mean, obviously you got tons of battles. Art of War. Sons of like, these people saw some shit for sure going crazy and more focus. But there's more political assassinations in Rome for sure. One of my grand questions for my dad was, do you think that Charlie Kirk was killed by the person that the news outlets are claiming killed him, this Tyler Roberts? Yeah. Do you think Charlie Baker was killed by Charlie Robison? I'm absolutely sure. Oh wow. I was like what about the guy with the thing on his sleeve. And then the guys were up to the body or whatever. And he's like let me just explain to you that, like for the most part, for the most part, any random person can decide they want to kill any other random person like they could do it. It's like, not that hard to buy a gun train a shooting stock. Somebody forgot the routine. Find a place where they're open and vulnerable, and then execute. And it's like there's also a lot of way they're saying it happened. Just doesn't make any sense. Dawn I'm like, if this is the person that did it, okay. But like, even if even just with that person removed, whoever that person is, the story you're telling me with the actor in it, it's it's shit. It's a shit script. This will make any sense. Like what? What part? I just like whenever Joe was talking about, like, the the type of gun and the like, assembly and disassembly of that weapon and the amount of time that it would have taken to do what they said it had to have happened in the story for him for like if they found the guy in the story with a backpack and a gun, like the gun disassembled in the backpack. But he was able to have it disassembled in the backpack, and the backpack is questionable. Still, if it could even hold the gun. So it's like you're wearing it in a backpack disassembled that's too small. You go up on the shit, you assemble it, take the shot, disassemble it, backpack it up, and then you're gone. That's what you're telling me happened. Sorry. No teeth on my sheets. It's good. It's not that bad. We can end, You like? I told me that the other thing. So the story smells like bullshit. Makes you feel like it's not reality for me, the thing that really triggers me is how am I gonna cover up this going on? Like they demolished the stage, like the area of the campus. Like you remember outside of LBJ, there was like that steps that went up, and then there would be people, like, playing music or doing a play or like preaching, not preaching, but like maybe doing some kind of, political, like, hey, let's vote on this thing. Student bodies voting on this, here's information about what's happening on prop 17, LBJ right outside of the subway, like bus. Okay. So okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Right outside the blimp is is that little like area right there. But the people could sit on the steps and sometimes people would be playing music and people listening in food and hanging out playing chess, whatever. So like imagine that like Charlie Kirk got shot there. Then like within a week, they demolished that whole thing, like took out all the steps, like repaved it, put new stuff in there and then got rid of that area. Why, why, why would you do that? What about the autopsy? The autopsy never happened. They got put on to, like, the Air Force One replacement. It was on Mike pence jet. Oh, yeah. That's his name right now. Who's the vice president? That's. Yeah. Bob version. Yes. For whatever reason, the body got flown on his jet the same way that JFK's body got flown on to Air Force One. And there's this period of time where it's like they're alone with the body. It's like, why the fuck did that happen? So after that, that should, on my note, like, what the fuck? Why? Why, yeah, why? What's, The narrative, the narrative. There's two narratives here. Okay? It's like, the narrative that we're giving us of what's happening, what things are going on. The there is facts, I guess, or there's, there is real story, but there's definitely a someone who is in control of our belief of the narrative because they are in control of the narrative the same way Sersi in Game of Thrones is telling Joffrey the truth, like the truth will be what you made it back in, like season one. I think whenever Joffrey gets attacked or like hit by Aria and then, or he, like, pulls up upon them. She's training with that. The little boy that is hidden sword playing with fake swords. Joffrey pulls up with his new sword given to him, and then, she ends up disarming him. I forget exactly how she disarms him, but she ends up disarming him. Let us the the wolf. The wolf came in, and with the data. And then he's recounting that to his mom. He's like, how can I be like a brave soldier? Or I can how can I be like someone who am more or less saying, how can I be somebody who embodies the energy of, like, the person that you're supposed to do it like that? What if I was doing it like the guy, by the garbage here, you say, like, that's some shit. That's some energy worth embodying. You know, save. How can I say that? I'm doing that whenever I like. Like a little girl. Disarm me and, like, whatever. And she's like, one day you're going to be ruler. You're going to be the king. And the truth will be what you make it. You say it. So I was like, So don't don't be buying into that narrative of the people who are trying to tell us what the truth is exactly. Always be open to like, oh, yeah, I have to keep a tight circle of people who I also agree that are like a relatively, you know, on that same sort of like seeing was what's going on narrative and interpreting narrative, nothing too easily, easily convinced of things or you know, yeah, I guess part of what I was saying too is that like, ultimately like, we'll never know who killed JFK and you'll never know who killed Charlie Kirk. So you have things a year ago, like attachment to the discovery and understanding is irrelevant to your story. That's actually distracting. I was like, oh, that is true. There's like the other thing that's like Occam's razor is like, the simplest explanation is usually the most that's the most plausible. It's the highest possibility of that thing, highest probability of that being the truth is the simplest explanation. That's like so to say that like, all these things just happen to happen, that this grand manipulation on this grand scale, it's like it maybe, but like the every time you have to add another caveat of another conspiracy, it's to like, well, how would they how would they be involved? And they didn't know and then how would they be involved? And they didn't know. It's like it becomes more and more implausible. I'm like, okay, okay. But then, But then not what we're talking about. There was a riot in Minnesota over a lady that was killed by ice, and then she's like, I think that that. Right. My first thought is like was, do you think it was a staged right, or do you think it was a genuine riot? He's like, no, I think it was staged. Like, okay, contradiction. So they'll say riot. But you think that it's not the same kind of people that would have killed Charlie Kirk. And then he's like, well, it's like the thing about the riots is, like George Soros has like kind of openly taken responsibility for, like paying these people to riot, like the professional rioters, and they get, like, paid to go riot. That's fucked. That's like in the open. That's not conspiracy. I'm like, Who's George Soros? And he's like, basically the guy that owns the majority of the poll for the Democrat Party funded most of the campaigns at the the person that has the most people in his pocket. His name is George Soros. So he ends up making a lot of decisions for the Democratic Party on what they're going to do and why they're going to do it to him. Okay, well, why does he do that? And then that's kind of what the Trump cult like most of them, I feel like it's because they're making money off of it. It's like these people lobby for war. Well, the people that lobby for people that are in the military industrial complex, people selling them, the bullets, they're the ones lobbying for war, and they're the ones likely to do things to cause war because they're going to make billions of dollars. So, yeah, that this conspiracy exists. Obviously, you think conspiracy exists, but at the same time, not not on that grand of a scale. Yeah. It's, the people are kind of trying to rig the McDonald's monopoly game, but you don't think it'll they will focus on Bitcoin, you know. What do you think, Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK? Complicated question. No idea. Can tell you. Even if he's the one that shot him. It doesn't mean that what I'm saying isn't true either. That there wasn't a grander conspiracy. Netflix just dropped. 11 2363 Hulu original fucking phenomenal. It's based on a Stephen King book. It's a banger. He only makes bangers. It's a banger. I'm not going to lie. It's a banger. It's good. But yeah, you watch that and the plausibility goes so high for the fact that you're like, oh yeah, JFK probably. But here's a very real thing. Lee Harvey Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald was killed by Jack Ruby, and then Jack Ruby is directly tied to another gentleman. And then that gentleman worked for the CIA, worked for MKUltra. His name is something stupid. Stupid fucking it. Okay. What are they fucking gay? But it's a yes, but it's also like. Then that guy came and visited Jack Ruby in his interrogation containment cell. Spent 20 minutes with them leaves, and now Jack Ruby is like an insane person after that. And then the conspiracy theory is that he dosed them with, like, acid, and then, like, through the MKUltra stuff, talked to him on this acid trip and basically, like, convinced them through hypnosis to, like, forget himself. Or he just said, like, look, don't you want to know that they want that to happen to you? You better act fucking crazy like I'm there and blah, blah. Ain't nothing to it. But it's like those ties, those connections. Like the real, like Lee Harvey Oswald. That's just this expatriate that had CIA connections when it came back from Russia. Ex Russian expat. It's a little fishy. Yeah, the narrative is a little fishy. Fishy as fuck. Yeah. Should be more cut and dry. Yeah. Then there's a fishy. So no, don't be trusting. It was like I have no fingerprints in his house, you know, no silverware or whatever type shit. Whatever's going on with that, that's what I'm saying. Who the fuck are these people? Like, fuck. What happened? The surrounding senses are ridiculous. Yeah, that's the thing. So it's like, why are you going through such lengths? Or like, this is so just, like, not believable. Like, this is not a good movie. This is. I don't know. But there is that inclination. I think we said it in like, inclination to corruption. We have that. And if people are willing to do it with the McDonald's monopoly series, I probably like to do it at the higher levels for more benefit. You know? Yeah, I think how does conspiracy hold that sounds like that anymore? It was though for sure. Yeah. And it's not not like that. Like the fucking Covid vaccine, bro. It's like a clearly Anthony Fauci a little diff corrupting a little a little out there, a little out there that it's just like, oh, certain aspects. You can definitely point to that. Like the CDC and the who knew that kids didn't need a vaccine for this, that they had the immune systems to fight it off, that the death rates were in elderly and comorbidity. People traditionally with obesity is one of the co-morbidities. That's the that's the people that maybe needed a vaccine and they're giving it to healthy 20 year olds. Kids like social pressure to give it to everybody. That's that. That wasn't supported by any science. That was just trying to run social pressure. Yeah. Well markets more pockets. That's a fact. Yeah, that's a fact. And then why didn't I get the vaccine. Because I have an openness to conspiracy. So so my dad saying like openness to conspiracy does nothing but deter you from understanding your own life better. I'm like, well, I didn't get the vaccine or the booster. I think the thing is also your interpretation of your own half like I had, it was dribbling to the rack and I lost the bell, but it was like, you're there's I think I mentioned there's two narratives. There's the narrative of what's happening here in life, and then there's your self telling you what you think is happening here, life, objective reality and perceptive reality. Yeah. And there's like the narratives that were being told. And there's also like a narrative that we are, I guess emerges or it becomes, comes into contact with our interpretation of what's happening. And there's like what we're told is what's happening. But either way, even our interpretation of what's happening is not real either, in a sense. You know, saying there's something outside of that, it's even more real. Yeah. And the only way to you like hopefully be aligned with the with the real is to try to do your best to line up with it here. Yeah. To align yourself with objective reality, to remove your ego honestly helps a lot with that. Stop lying to yourself. That's the thing is, don't realize you're lying to yourself, but you can realize you're lying to yourself. If you stop lying to other people, then that's once you become sensitive to dishonesty in it. Like externally, you can find it internally. And then once you remove that, you can be more aligned with what's actually happening. Yeah that's that's a very real thing. That's a dunk. So yes. So being open to these conspiracies and understanding what's going on, aligning yourself with objective reality is the goal. So I can't just let myself be a sheep in that sense where I'm like, okay, well sounds good to me. Yeah. Well we got the guy. So whatever. The other guy doesn't feel right. The other thing is, bro, okay, this is a fucking heavy thought. The this is what was what? Okay, bro, I just had this idea where it's like, it's important to know, to be aware. Awareness is important. It's important as fuck. Like, you need to know if you're being taken advantage of in your job, in your relationship. And then it's like, I think with a lot of things, it's like I'm trying to figure out a process, right? It's like our ideals sometimes don't incorporate malevolence. It's like never, never being or like losing your cool. Losing your cool is like, never a good thing. It's like, no, sometimes you need to lose your cool. Like, if you're in jail and somebody decides they're going to like, take advantage of the fact you drop the soap, you both fucking lose your cool. Like that's an important time to lose your cool, to yell, to scream, to make noise, to fight to, to not let that happen. And that's when malevolence is introduced into the situation. And then it's like, how does that happen to kids? What happens because abuse happens small and then it ramps up. So if you're taking if you're getting small abuse, like you should make a big deal about it. So you need to tell your teacher, you need to tell your counselor because like the big abuse is coming. And so I think it's like some of these ideals that don't incorporate malevolence. But then how do I support that with Scripture? It's like, well, the meek will inherit the earth. It's like the person that knows how to use their sword but keeps the sheath will inherit the earth. Okay, how do you know how to use your sword? How do you become trained in that? Ever? Because it's like you're not meek unless you know how to use it. So how did you use it? You must have had to train or use your sword to understand malevolence on some level. But then at that point it's like, okay, well, don't lose your cool, though. It's like, well, sometimes though, sometimes you need to pull the sword out like there's a reason it's there. It's not just for show, it's like it's there because the malevolence exists and you have to fight it off. And so that that's a kind of a counterpoint, I think, to some of the far more like peaceful, docile notions of Christianity. It's like, let, let, let let that ever turn the other cheek. It's like there's a time, there's a time, friend. Yeah. It's different. It's different. If somebody slaps you out of disrespect than if somebody is assaulting your family. Those are different levels of what's going on here. It's like, should I let them rob me? Should I sit here and let them take advantage of my wife? Well, well, I'm just like, well, I'm going to turn the other cheek. Well, while this happens, y'all like that. I don't think that's it. I don't think that's it. The grand hopefully the perfection of Jesus Christ and God's provision is going to keep you out of the situations. But like, you know, my dad's a pastor and he carries a gun, keeps him the holster for the most part, but he's not gonna let something happen. One of my stepbrothers, you know. So I think that that's like, that's a part where, like, sometimes I can feel I have my awareness open to conspiracy, and then I feel the people I love being taken advantage of, and then it's like, don't lose your cool. And it's like, we're real close to malevolence, y'all. It's like, maybe we're not there yet, but eventually, if we step into the realm of malevolence, it is important that on some level we lose our cool or like break or deviate from normal behavior. Now, maybe there's a better way to lose your cool than other ways. And I think that that's sometimes where I have trouble, because that's maturity. I haven't figured out how to integrate that, mostly because people tell you don't lose your cool, so you don't have practice losing your cool. So so I'll feel this urge like, no, now is kind of the time where somebody needs to say something or somebody needs to break from deviate from normal behavior here. And then I get like anxiety because I'm like, I don't know how to do this. I know I need to do it, but I don't know how to do it properly because there's I haven't seen a lot of examples of that. And so then I'll get like emotional or like my voice will crack or like, I'll like stutters, stutter like that. It's like, I just don't know what to say, but I know I need to say something, you know. So that's definitely a thought that the proper integration is crucial to because it's like you're deviating from normal behavior. Normal behavior protects you. So if you're gonna deviate from protection you don't want to fuck up. That's kind of I feel that's, that's true. That's true. I was abused when I was a kid by someone else in my school. And it started small and then got bigger. And I wish that if I would've made a bigger deal about it when it was smaller, it wouldn't have happened. And so I feel like I do want to teach my daughter. Not that exact example per se, but just like, hey, when when evil is popping out, when things are happening to you and it's not right, it's not okay. They talk to me, talk to somebody, make a big deal about it. Maybe don't freak the fuck out, but you need to make a big deal about it's important. I'm not going to teach her to turn the other. I will teach you to turn the other cheek. But there's a difference between those things that's important for people to know. You know the sword is real. Yes. Like at that point, I think anybody would want their son or daughter to make a big deal about small abuse happening from a bully at school. Because it can get way worse. But if we're doing this daskal Christian turn the other cheek stuff, you might think like, oh, I'm not going to make a big deal. I don't want to make a problem. I don't want to just let evil spread. That's fine. Fine. That's not good. But you put it like that. Obviously the. Yeah. No, but it's not necessarily our job to stamp it out either. I think the thing about love, love's a hard word because we all define it differently and we define it differently at different times. But love is equal. Equal best energy possible for all the people in the situation. That's one definition of love for me. It's like I'm in that equation too. So at some point it's like I have to stick up for me. If I'm going to respect love, then maybe I put myself behind everybody else. But eventually it's like, if I'm not taking care of me, I'm not loving. I don't embody love. So I think that's like also another justification for why that is true. It's like you have to take care of yourself to make you exist for. An adult. And we're trying to surrender ourselves to Christ. Yeah. That the self you do exist, but it probably is easier if you didn't like, not like it like that kind of way, you know, not in a particular way. Yeah. I'm not saying it's, it's okay. It's, our interpretation of what's going on here is who's to say they know exactly what's going on here. You know, how dare you? How dare you? Well, just try to figure it out, bro. So, like, there's a truth in that where it's there, there has to be something you surrender to. It's beyond, like, just the, like, incomprehensible. It's like. It's like that about you, about it that you bought or something. Something I think that's for you. God is a place in your mind. And if you don't put God or Christ in there, you'll put something in there. It's like innately true about us. We can't you can't convince or you could convince yourself otherwise. But objectively, that's true. If you put money or women, sex, drugs, there's something you worship. There's something that you use to experience these things. Yeah. It's this is beyond comprehension like we call it God. And then it's just we try to understand things. We use science to try to break things down. Even in theology and science, the same sort of idea was like trying to figure out what's going on here, proof of what's going on here, how to control time or what's this make constitutes a good life. Oh wait, like a matrix. Like fuck your time to like, on some level. Yeah. So you could walk across the water, bruh. Yeah, yeah. And then someone who is walking across the water will fall. It's like, oh, you're afraid it's a past. The boat is tossing and turning right now. And I'm like, watch. Like the sea doesn't move anymore. It's like, yo, see? But I'm trying to tell you, like, don't be afraid of the boat's rocking. Like, just chill, bro. The show, you've got this. You're worried over petty things. Like how powerful. And then the sea no longer moves. It's like, oh, wow. Okay. I think it's more. That's more of like a show stopper moment. There wasn't. I think that was more to say. All of it is like, leave your conviction and faith in me. Stop worrying about everything else in the matrix. You need to operate in the matrix, but you need to trust me more no matter what. Yeah. No matter what. The matrix though, is that you need to trust me more. Yeah. Legitimately carry your cross, which is like the expression of conscious control over your thoughts and behavior and, like, align that with me then, like, if you do that and you're really doing that, like it's all good, it's all going to be good no matter what. I think your story will be beautiful. Yeah. And it's not. And it's also not even just your story because. Yeah, like to pass it on to your daughter and then was like, if they're having a great life, you have a great life. You're like, yeah, that's nice. That's different too. It's like, I'm rooting for you. I want you to win so bad. My mom was such a good person that, like, we love to be around her. We loved how she interacted with people. Our experiences with her in them were so awesome that even when she wasn't there, just like, appreciated and loved her a lot. No, she passed away. It's like there's a void of that, but I still carry it with me. This like thing she passed on of like just being this good, like, loving person who tries to, like, care about other people and like the difference between me, like, just, fuck the spirit. So I'm gonna bring up Derek, for instance. Derek. No shade at all. No shade it on that it it's just just for an example. I'm not comparing at all, but there was like a moment where Derek's like, yeah, man, could you just, like, set me up and like let her watch resurrection or something like that and like the person video games with me. And I was like, I like, well, he's a dad with three kids and I'm new to this. And like, I understand what he's saying, like, maybe I can do that. So like I try to do that, but then Demi, like doesn't want to watch that and she wants to hang out with me. And then also it's like, well, like my dad can't answer every phone call that I give him. He can't hang out with me all the time. So, like, I kind of can't hang out with you all the time, but also like, right now, I could and it's just like the then I feel that mom energy of like, yeah, just hang out with your daughter like you want to you feel this call to like she wants to hang out with you. It's like, just put the other bullshit aside. And I'm like, that's my mom's energy for sure. It's like I could make the choice to say, no, she's fine. That's like, more with my dad. Like, he literally told me, like the science at the time said, let him cry. Then I just let him cry. I just found my headphones. Dude, I was right. I'm totally just playing Call of Duty while you were crying because I thought, like, on one hand, I wanted to. That made my life easier, but on the other hand, the science like supported that. So. But like in retrospect, I wouldn't do that to you. Now it's like, don't do that to Demi. Like she's crying, like attend to her, play with her, all that stuff. So like, I feel those things even though my mom's not here in my life anymore. And I feel like if I just continue to embody that thing, it's not like I'm going to teach it to Demi directly. Like she'll have this, like, warmth, this like positive influence in her all the time, and then she'll be able to like, call on that later in life and be there for other people. But it's not necessarily so translatable. I guess what I'm saying is, like our relationships, our influence on other people isn't like necessarily like something we take as information and put into our matrix per se. It's it's a little different that, that these like these, these things we pass on doing the right thing or being a good person or whatever. It's like you're passing down like a, like a permanent, a permanent log in a fire. It's like any and we need that fire to stay warm. It's like if people don't put logs into your fires of good influence and love or good examples, then like sometimes you don't have anything to stay warm with or anything to draw on later when you want to be a good person or to decide right from wrong. I think just being example of good choices is sometimes like critically important. Yeah that that's, that's a little too deep for me. I didn't, I didn't quite put my finger on it. I'm still working on that thought. I'll come back in a couple months with a better more concise version of what it is that I'm feeling. That's one of those you got to turn the lights off in the shower. Thank you. I mean, no, on on this for a little bit. It's like my mom didn't teach me how to be good to all the people. She like the Starbucks, the hub line guy, the fucking person at the gas station. She wasn't like, do this because of this and this and this. She just did it. And I love that about her. And now I try to do that in me just because of how much I appreciated it over there. It's not even like it wasn't a lesson, you know what I'm saying? Anyway, so think about that one more. Yeah. What's one body? Yeah. What's what's worthwhile to embody. So that's just watching someone embody it, not being taught it. So sometimes we can embody things other people. But yeah, I, we learned through osmosis, you know, like watching people do things differently when you have a baby. I mean, like, she's doing it. Yeah, I do you know. Yeah. I'll show her how to eat something. And she's like, oh, okay. I'm sorry. And it helps you navigate this thing. Yeah. And then we're able to watch people and see what. And I obtain that through I guess is kind of also what they, what we perceive them to be thinking and how they manage their thought action behavior, chain loop, what we perceive of that and then what they say about it. Like we'll have people who do interviews and then like, we could be like he's been a little inauthentic or like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think but some people are like, let's say, who David Goggins is. David Goggins, he's just a crazy little fucker. You feel authenticity, you know? Yeah. It's like we people love comedians for that. Like Dave Chappelle, like Joe Rogan. So he's not to try to fuck me over. He's not going to try to control narrative on me and manipulate the mental jujitsu. For me to think something that's not true, not truly in line with the truth on purpose, right? Right. If you're wrong, you're wrong. But you know if you're wrong on purpose, like knowingly bringing me down that path like malevolence. Yeah. And you feel that too. It's real fucking real. So I'm gonna. Yeah. Life is a feeling process of healing. Proper proper feeling process so much as I did your introduction that the Holy Spirit was like a person, not like a force or an energy. It's like a person. I've heard that expression for sure. Like, I think I know what Jesus looks like because I watch The Chosen kind of like a mental image of Jesus. I could put something. Yeah, well, what does God look like to you? Like the father to that? If it's a very I think it's a you don't have like a mental image. Well, I think it looks like zoom. Oh I guess, yeah. Whatever. Like, definitely when, when I, when I had. No I don't think it's like I think it's like the white square child's going to be nothing. You know, I've seen that. I know what he's talking about. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Like the idea of that. Yeah. And then I guess we are definitely whatever. Like Poseidon from Little Mermaid for sure. Yeah. Right. That was the god I saw on my yoked Greek god white beard. Oh, yeah. Hercules, do you know? Yeah. Those cartoons. I love those movies. Yeah, yeah. Same, same. But then I don't have a mental image at all for what the Holy Spirit will look like as a person. I was like just playing with that thought the other day. I was like, I don't even know. I can't even, like, draw anything. It doesn't feel right. I don't know why. I think it's like Jesus is like the representation embodiment in God is like the white square, and the Holy Spirit is the thing that, like, translates white square into what you see when you open your eyes, something like perception, your spirit, whatever's animating this, giving you illumination. Pastor was pretty clear. It's a person, not yeah, that physics. That's where I'm like, can I agree with I even in parable, you know I'm saying sure. Yeah I agree with that sentiment. Yeah. But to think of it as like a human being. He didn't. Yeah, literally it was like it's a person. Not like you would meet like three people. Like you're not going to go, like, engage with an energy. Maybe that white square, like, we can't see God. It would be, like too much. It's too much. So the white square is like, I'm gonna show you the void. I'm gonna show you nothing. Nothing like lightness. Nothing. Not like black. Just pure light. Yeah. Pure light is like. That's all I can give you, though. Otherwise I'm afraid you throw out. Oh, you can't handle. I'm omnipotence. Omniscience mirrors the little thing. Yellow ego. Bruh. You live in this thing and like, it's. I feel it like. It's like being like a grain of sand versus like a like a desert or being like a drop of water versus like an ocean. It's like usually this little thing might add to something interesting that, like, entropy should have taken out people a long time ago. It's like the love life. Yeah. The natural law of entropy. Okay. Government itself should have entrepreneurs by now. Or like maybe it has always had that this Weekend at Bernie's. Okay. That right. That's kind of what's I think kind of been happening. And people are like, you know what? What's going on in this government thing, bro? But you would be like death though. That's the result of energy. Okay. Yeah. It's a true death for decay. And it's not revolt. Yeah, maybe corruption is keeping it alive, but, But we're not. We haven't succumbed to entropy. Like we still have food to eat. We still have some society structure, law and order, families. And and then my dad is like, for me, that's a little bit like almost a proof that you need proof. But like when I want to look at God sustaining us as a people, it's like, yeah, we're sustained. Like life is still going on, you know, like you can think about all these conspiracies and all wonder about all of these things. But like, ultimately, like you still have a life, you have a place to live. You got a job. If you don't have these ones, you get other ones like you can you can run life. And that's crazy because like entropy, like then he's like, yes, like matter can't be created nor destroyed, but like entropy would still like deteriorate, rebirth, deteriorate, rebirth. But like we haven't like died as a society since Christianity happened. So like there's something there, I'm like, oh, wow. Okay. That's a that's interesting. That's interesting. I thought about that. Yo. The founding fathers are like, man, fuck this. We already. We already. I think that worked because it's corruption. This is bullshit. Tyranny loses. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't win. And then it just starts to spread again. And it's just a sinful nature of the game. People, the evil force, wherever is generating that, I don't know, you lose. Thanks for the competition. But without you. Yeah. Yeah, that's it's the the resistance. The thing that also was like supporting the thing they were saying. I remember kind of thinking about it and conceptualizing it as I think that album had just come out, Josh Gambino album like 315, 20, 20, whatever or whatever. So like that it was just numbers. And then he rereleased it as a title, title tracks and stuff. Yeah, but it was just numbers at first, I forget what's title? AltaVista? I don't know, I can tell you there's a fucking wine. That's a while back. It sounded right to me. So like, I don't know, but the album just come out and it was just a white square for the cover of that album, and it's thinking about that in regards to like that, me seeing these things and like when you close your eyes, like, what are you seeing? And then like, I guess, I don't know, maybe me where like my eyes are open, my eyes are closed. It's like it's kind of a fractal point or like a crossing over, like a tug of war with something that's going on here. And then the thing that's generating or like that is used as the foundation of my illumination. Like what I'm seeing my illumination on, like the screen of my movie and like the character of my movie, it's like I'm watching the thing, and that thing is like when I close my eyes, it's they're like, that's what it is. And then that's being generated from something else. And then I see when I open my eyes, I see this thing. But like, if you can't look directly at the light, I'll fucking blind you. You know, it's like the white squares. Yeah. There's too much. There's too much. What is where? It's this little thing. Just a little guy. Yeah. I don't know what level of conviction he was saying that it's not a white square or like when you meet God, it'll have, like, a physical form. Like a like a person. I don't know. I don't know if that's supported scripturally where he's pulling that from, but apparently that's truth because like, my whole understanding is like to not limit him to a person form from what I who am I, right? Yeah. I of course, and it's like, but the same argument could be who you would like. I say, if it's like coded scripturally, but I think even then. So like this the idea of like, who am I to say that my interpretation of these things is exactly correct? You know, God might say, like, I made you an image of me. It's like to like, literally like the way you look is how I look. You're like, oh shit, I never took it literally. I thought that was a parable. It was it. But but yeah, I had that semester at I kind of just like, trust them. Like I trust GBP. All right. Now, if I took my own, I have the same axiom as you. And I was just like, I just tore it down and I was like, what do I fill it with? I know it's or, you know, so like Zeus, I feel it was Zeus. Yeah. What did he look like? Zeus up beside it. It's it's like the dad's from from Hercules, a little mermaid. Of course. I wonder, like the overarching theme, represent Jesus in some level, like Hercules to Zeus is like the half man, half god. That's kind of the correlation I have. You don't see that I programing like, I don't know, the Holy Spirit. I was like, is it a lady? Is it like a real eccentric, like a Dennis Rodman type of person? Huge small person, big person? That's not the question will have the answer to anytime soon. It's more, mental masturbation as well. This is all it kind of wasting your time thinking about interesting things as a podcaster for baby. That's what we're here for. To dive in. We would dive in deep in the depths of life. Yeah. Thanks. I feel like the water is worth anything. It's the water experience. Just feeling better than you did while you are doing whatever you're doing. Then you would be carrying you through these time segments that we call ten minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, whatever. It's like this, this, this makes me feel I'm chillin. There was I was like looking through some of these podcast downloads, looking through which kind of episodes people are downloading. And then one of them, I don't even know what episode it was. It was an early one, like first 20 for sure, first ten maybe for then, like I just like clicked it as I start listening to it. And then I was just like brought to a place of like still warm waters, like almost immediately like within, like the first couple of minutes. And I was just like, oh, this is so chill. And then like I got said that I like I wasn't doing that or I was like, I don't have like, I'm not. I didn't come here to like, like sit like when I listen to a Joe. No, I'm listening to it. Joe. But I was like doing other stuff, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, just checking it out in passing, and it was enough to, like, stop me in my in passing, sort of like pursuit. That's probably exactly what's happening to the people that are downloading. I might be just like clicking like, oh, wow, hold on. I'm gonna save that for the drive. Let this rock this. Yeah. Or fear. You know, whenever you have those pockets of time, hopefully we make that passage of that pocket of time more enjoyable. More at least chill. At least. Just like, yeah, we catch a Joe Rogan vibes. I don't know what's going on. Random things that be happening. Breaking physics. Yeah, bring a physics. The timing of things is not irrelevant. It's all important. It's all significant. The story is beyond our comprehension. You see the take part in it, you get to experience it. Just float. Then we talk about, you know, you just flow or chillin. You can't really feel. Anything you use to try to conceptualize what's going on here is something you're using in the thing that there's something to giving you, the thing that you're using. It's like, you can't get outside of it. You can't get outside of it. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. You can't. You can't do it. God can. Yeah, there's something outside of you. Yeah, whatever that is. God, for sure. You need to. At least in the parable. Abstract. You need to get there. At least. Is there something irrefutable going on here that's a tangible relationship you can have with God? Real feeling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And both are true. Like. Yeah. And and we don't know shit on anything when doing our best. I'm barely touching the cloak. You're doing your best yourself. Kick it off. 116. Love, y'all. Have a great rest of your life. We made the water and pasta this time a little bit more enjoyable, a little more. Some GPP in there, little Goggins in there, a little Joe Rogan comedy in there, and a lot of MJ 38. That's another 38, baby. Keep pushing. Does it call. Answer that call. I'll see you in the baby's.