Do What Is Meaningful, Not What Is Easy | Jordan Peterson Was Right | The MJ38 Show #129

Most people aren’t suffering because life is hard—they’re suffering because they’re chasing comfort instead of meaning.

In this episode of The MJ38 Show, we dive deep into Jordan Peterson’s philosophy of meaning vs expedience, spiritual warfare, sacrifice, leadership, truth, and what it actually means to live a life worth living.

From Nick Saban’s obsession with discipline and systems… to the deeper Christian idea of sacrifice and obedience… to the battle against entropy itself—we break down why modern life feels heavy and why most people are choosing comfort over purpose.

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We also discuss:
• Jordan Peterson’s recent health update
• leadership hierarchies and “top wolf” dynamics
• Nick Saban’s coaching philosophy
• spiritual warfare and internal battles
• investigative journalism, truth-seeking, and free speech
• why your life needs a real narrative
• the difference between what is meaningful vs what is merely expedient

This episode is for anyone trying to become stronger, think deeper, and pursue something greater than comfort.

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128 129. Sorry. Just flying through. Doesn't even matter. It's all now. It's all today. It's all here. Oh, now I know we're pushing in the rain. Loving life. Life is good. You want to start with a quick prayer this morning? Let's do it. Oh, yeah. I like this one. Yeah, if you want it. Yeah. Either way, I'm good for it. You got it. Take us there. Dear Heavenly Father, I just want to come to you in this moment and say thank you for this moment. And thank you for our lives. Thank you for all the provision you provided since before the beginning of time. Allow us that true attitude of gratitude. Spirit of appreciation. Do not let us get lost on the little things. You are in the smallest of moments, so we appreciate you for that. We appreciate you for our stories. We trust you. We love you. We know your timing is impeccable. There have been late. Never been late. May not be early, but we never been late. It's a story that's outside of our comprehension. But you've given us the gift of our own comprehension of our story. And through that analysis, hopefully you allow these thoughts and these articulations of those thoughts to help stimulate us towards you and to feel the the truth that is life itself. And appreciation for that will allow us to manifest your story full of abundance and blessings and graces. I'll also do this. So for everyone who's listening, whoever she comes into contact with at this time in Jesus question, we pray. Amen. Amen. You beautiful purple. Thank you. It's nice. Bring the demons out. Well, the taking the moment. We're talking about the wolf hierarchies. Truth of that, seeing these things are drawn to Pearson's talking about play out in life. Yeah. The real. If you're the tough wolf, you got to take the. If you like the best server, you gotta take like, the toughest table. Like, this is a VIP like critic. We gotta we gotta be hidden. It's a full machine. There's a whole, like, we're all doing our part. Kitchen's got to execute and execute. We got to execute. That's outside of our control. Completely. You know, you can't really do all of it. All of it, man. Yeah. If you if you're doing it. Yeah. Because it was like a the systems man. It's just the truth. No no no it's just the we had a I guess a critic that was like a, a validates and accredits for Forbes statuses for like hotels and stuff or whatever. Like it's, they've, they've, they've created their own rating system, but they come in and say like who's gonna get the Forbes lady. Like it's got to be you. Yeah. Right. Here we go. So that's the soup. So let's hope sometimes that maybe it's because our experience of understanding like what the role of servers. We know that that's like the biggest drag. And you have to be able to slay from the other side. Like sure things are complicated. There's people who have importance or influence or some kind of authority, and you're going to have to, like, perform really well for their service. Like what is that? You know, that's something that's very real. But if you're just looking at like sir, like what you value in a server, like as a server, that's like the hardest thing you're going to have to do. So then like being competent with being able to do all the little things around, what is the good service, you know, can you pull up and deliver great service all the time? That's kind of the call of that dungeon. And then you have to like perfect that craft. That's difficult. You have to figure out how you say things, why you say them, how do you organize them. How to act in different situations and types of situations with different kinds of people. Right. And then all of a sudden that also gets to a place where if you're talented enough in my opinion, then you realize that there's a somewhat of a hypnosis to your presentation. Then how well do you maintain the hypnosis you bring into the cadence of your speech with you, with your spiels and your responses to certain types of things that are happening at that, that have read repeatedly happened over a long, long time of doing it? Yeah. Like there's a categories of things that happen and like you said, like mental synopsis for each one. Yeah, we have audibles for every, every set we get. You know, they didn't like this one or oh, they're, they're looking at their state like this or other. They're asking about this thing. Yeah. There's only so many these questions I get I mean but I want a dungeon. Yeah. Yeah. No you're so right. So that's what goes into it. That's what I'm saying. That's the dedication. Like that's, that's all up here. You know like you got to watch your film. That's what I'm trying to do. It's like a post shift every day. It's like I don't really care what happens in the post shift as the post shift is to just put it in your mind while you're leaving that, like what you could think about what just happened, you know? So I'm like, tell me how to tell me a low and then is it was there any good criticism that we should hear about from the floor? And then I think those are like valuable things, but more at the high and lower, just like you evaluate your own day. You know, what was going on there? Were you crushing? How was the how are we playing? Yeah, we can box. Yeah, you can box and then tell me what was going through your mind while you were getting books tonight. Like when you were in the zone. What got you there? What was going on? Can box. So that's the kind of stuff I'm doing because I think it's a mental thing. It's just like if they will go over their own stuff and decide that they want to fix stuff or get better, or fight the dungeons, fight the dragons, it's like they're going to go down the same road that leads them to. Can you handle for Forbes Lady? And so from the other side I kind of want to like value that as competence. And then you know things are a competence I'm going to hierarchy like. Most of the time if you got your job it's because you were like talented enough of what you did to like get a job. Most of the time I don't know how things work everywhere but you have influence over there like you do it machine or like at the Future Teller machine. I think you could contribute to that or have your like we were talking about before or off the air like before the part. But the, the wolf diving deeper with the wolf analogy in the hierarchy there. It was like I guess you're. Yeah. You are the person who's leading the tribe in the direction that we were going. Like you were determining kind of where we're hunting, if we're good and if we are successful in the direction of following you and where we're hunting, insofar as our society is taken care of, like we're. Everyone's eating like no one's starving, we're all good. There's relative peace among the like the tribe. And we're all fed and, like, alive and, like, not complaining too much about anything. And then we're going to follow you and you're going to lead us in a direction that's supposed to be that thing or results in that experience reality. And like you're like the top wolf you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's so I'm so far away from part a part of me is like would agree with you less just because my desire to compete in the dominance hierarchy isn't for a desire to, like, be a top wolf. That's not why I'm trying to, like, make this role a thing. It's just like. But I think that that's when this idea gets viewed from the outside. It's hard to separate those things. Like I'm not saying that. I'm not saying we need to go off you because one day I want to go off me. I'm just saying we got to go out for you because that's just like how this whole thing works, you know. You know we put someone there or someone is there and it's like based on, you know, the story of life. Yeah. Like Moses was there you know. Yeah. And then also and then we'll see. Yeah. You're you're in control of the doing that doing things machine. That is our mental socially connected sort of conscious subconscious. You know. What direction are we all going on. Hopefully we're all able to. Go in a way that makes everybody, I guess, happy. It's like kind of a root of what we're all, I guess, subconsciously maybe aiming for. And it's like, what defines us better? Yeah, potentially. For the individuals on Earth where it's like, you know, I'm having a great time. I think the framework in the narrative just makes the, the, the world stronger or something like that, because I just, I take these ideas and I put them in different, like real things. And it helps me conceptualize like football teams, like Nick Saban is crazy to me right now. Okay. So he is a guy who's like, thinking like this about systems like that, and he's a head coach of like the Alabama football team. And he's like on this level with it. So he has like and one meeting where he's explaining to them like 20 people why they need to install something the night before. And like the importance of when we show up on the field in the moment, trying to install something it's going to take or we're getting we're losing like ten minutes of practice because you're teaching when we should have taught the night before, like I told you, we need to do. I don't know why I didn't do that. And then too, like their brain, like take pictures with you so you can show them what you want them to do, and then they'll see it and they'll think about it, and then they'll come into practice. And I've already been kind of like ready to go on it. And then they'll like, just perform better as a whole because they're not trying to be in the learn phase while we have them on the field. Yeah, yeah. Maximizing time. Yes. Well, plugged into the game right. It's like we a lot of like in the ruins game. We're going off dog I got all these things planned up. Yeah. Like the night before right. Oh really. That's a yeah. Like I like I would, I would I had that realization of like when I was like logging in if I feel like logging in without a purpose was like, I'm just sitting there wasting time on the sitting at the front of the bank or whatever, just having it open. And I was like, I don't belong in those hours. Those are good hours. That's are cool. If you're gonna play this game like, you know, it's more than just this game, you know? So you gotta come up with your strategy. Yeah. What are you doing with your session? What you're going to do whenever you log in. What's your objective like? What are you what are you searching after? Yeah. Request stuff. So I think that's the same thing that he's kind of to say about when we're logged in at practice. I want us running good reps because it's like a double dilation, like more time, less teaching. And rep is like better rep. So we're working on like two elevated things. So he's like, don't teach on my football field if you don't have to. So I tell you to install stuff the night before. Why? It's why we have film on these days, in these days and these days, it's because, like, I want on the field to be, like execution and then like coaching. And then it's like when you coach, don't waste your coaches. It's pretty much what he said, too. He's like, catch the football is one of the worst coaches I've ever heard in my life. You want to tell a kid, catch the ball like, get off my football field. Don't fill our chat with that. Yeah. He's like, no. It's like, tell them something to do. Like turn your hands over. You should have cupped underneath or you, you let yourself hold on to your own contact, like break free and make the catch. Like give them some kind of coaching point if you're going to coach them otherwise like don't coach them. And I was just like, man, he's up there. That's like, I don't know. You only get so much control or you only do so many moments with these kids like time. We have so much time. Right. Like make sure the uses of usage of time is like striving in the best direction possible. Yeah. The nuggets kind of convoluted. But it looks like football wins right there. Right. But it looks like money too. Unless you. Yeah. Unless you just, you know Rick Pitino. Yeah. No I guess I'll say I was thinking like, how do you define successful football teams or how do those people get paid? Like, who do you value more in that system? We pay for wins, like championship wins. So those people are rewarded more in the hierarchy financially. But then also you could use that to buy teams which would make your team more competitive. Right. But because you want wins so that there's not so much a definable win in other industries like there isn't sports, other places when you want to translate these things and these ideas, the jobs are really cool because he's, he's is a manager like he manages a football team with like 20 coaches on it. And then how much time does he spent with each individual athlete. But then he goes out and he like calls the place, you know, the crazy role to be in. But it's cool. So when he steps into like a team practice or like it's talking to the entire team and he's like going off, I think it's important for him to like, explain where they're going or why they're doing this, or we're working on this because of this right here. It gives them like a direction for the week and like, I think that helps the people who are in the group at least be on something. Like, if we're all directed towards, I'm going to put my energy somewhere like, let's unify on trying to get 30 trays out of our dining room floor. You know, like if it's funny when you put it, if it doesn't thing, everybody needs some focus and it doesn't matter who's giving the focus. It's like, does the system of that is important for us to like, execute something? We need to be in sync somehow. It can't just be like chaotic. You know, everyone's in their own world. Beep boop boop boop. I'm like, that's why I sometimes I'll be like, this is going on over here. This is going on over here. This is going to be crashed out. Please help these people over here. We're working on this tonight because it's like that's the that's your narrative. Like, I think everyone needs a narrative for the night. But then I think other people want to be left in their own world. Preach it. Just be like I'm just at work, but like, let me make my money and just do my thing. And you're I got the real estate. I'm selling the stuff you got to sell. Other than that, I'm just like a contracted worker, like, nah, bro, we're like, this is a unit. This is a unified unit concentrated on getting this dub that I that is tonight. Like, if we were going to win the night, what would that look like? Yeah, these want to do really well under pressure. We'd get extra walk ins for people over here that would balance out the money. And then this thing's going to be slam. So they need some help over there. If we could like get all all of that handled well that would be like the win. You know he's like paint that narrative. Get the win win tonight. They're saying I was like let's win. It's gonna win today. Win the night is a hard shirt, bro. We should make that shirt. That's far. Yeah baby. For a restaurant. Small group. I'm trying to start. I'm here one the night. As far as how we're trying to do contribute to that good story. A good story, man. I just want a good story. Adult movie, good writing, good ending. That's what you want. Duh. Movies don't have that. You're upset. So people just want to go to work. Does that too. Okay. That song is like that. That's pretty much the narrative. I think that's the thing that I learned in the first Jordan Peterson book is that like no matter how no, no narrative, your narrative, is there still narrative and no narrative. It just it's going to happen. You're in it. Yeah. There were there you go wake up when it's still going to happen. Things are still going to call to you. Like your attention will go to something. And then that thing is like, why? Because you like need more. You need some meaning, you need some something more than just do, do do do like you're not a robot. Yeah. Grind through a season a grind and work at the glass shop I think for sure that's true. But every day at the glass shop they don't talk about it. It's all part of your story. That's all part your story is beautiful. The whole thing. Yeah. But. Sorry we're we're seven from people been around but not people been around. But people could choose to act in that way or like, believe that as such. Or like not trying to see the deeper, nuanced significance behind the story that is their life. Yeah, that's just easy to fall into. That. Just to be be moving around. It's hard. Yeah, I guess that's the force of entropy. It's like, that's the natural place I wants you to be. As as simple as you could possibly be to exert the least amount of energy you could possibly exert, because that's all. Yeah, that's up to you. Because you are decaying and it's like, stop decay. So now you have to, like, give more and find more and get stronger. That's the thing. It's like there's weight so heavy you should reduce the way it's like, but also like, I want to get stronger, right? The suffering of my existence. Yeah. So but the force of entropy, it calls out and says reduce the way it all the time. That is, that is like physics happens. Everything. And so I understand the people but I understand the pull, the the urge. But this is the rebellion player. Welcome to the rebellion. Oh, it's like I'm gonna get stronger and see what happens. Yeah, I'm gonna give more and see what happens. You know, like I'm going to it should hopefully look like I'm going to sacrifice because I believe, like in the spirit of Jesus, that like, sacrifices, the way that things get better and things get better and the better is transcendence. So your sacrifice becomes like something transcendent, like things will be better because you gave it. It'll trip you out. That's a lot of the Bible in my opinion. Right. So hopefully it looks like that. Yeah. Yeah I was right and trained in the training that like the two, two. Man. Oh yeah. It was just like that's the rebellion, right? Yeah. That's the rebellion is a sacrifice because it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to your entropy. Doesn't make sense to sacrifice. Yeah. Exactly. Right. It's like you only have so much time for you to use and sacrifice and waste, waste. But you know, I guess not sacrifice it towards the, and betterment of your flesh or like, or what. You know, I definitely took away from that saving to be like. Yeah. When you're going to go to, like, get better, be worthy. Like, it better be like, and like, tell them something like, help them get better. If you know, if you don't like the way that they did it, help them get better. Don't just sit there and be like. And then he said like, yeah, because if you yell at a kid and I catch them ball, then he goes out there and he's a little shook up because coaches yelled at him. Then if I'm the DB, I'm like, I'm giving this guy hell all night. It's like, I've already got I'm I'm already one up mentally on this kid and he's like, I don't want the other team's quarterbacks mentally one up on my kids. Like let them go out there and let them try to dominate, let them cook. And I was just like that's fire dog. That's fire. That's preach that I want I want my kids on fire. I don't want the mental should get what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. So it's hard, it's hard to balance the it's a craft now that's what I'm saying. Like the craft is different for me now. Now I'm like oh fuck. How do I coach. Well like when they save and be coached crazy. Well, that's at least some direction for what you could be doing for people here. You know, I wonder if he has a book. I'm trying to read it, that is. I'm sure it does. I did that I was following. Did you see? I didn't see it. But you said that there was a GP update on this page. I haven't watched yet. Oh, okay. Well, I, I seen it. Apparently the idea is something along the lines of that he had a fucking sorry. Part of my language is just hard to even hear. To take an antipsychotic medications. Maybe like up to six years ago, I don't know, maybe like antidepressants, maybe not sure. Okay. And then medication had years ago allegedly like a flare up of like a disease that you can get when you're on antipsychotic medication. Okay. But he just hadn't been on them for like six years. And so I guess this is like something that is not completely unheard of of, like, delayed effects from drugs that you took. Okay. And so, onset side effects. Right. And so more or less, I think it was something basically like restless restless body syndrome was what I had a like. So to the point where it's your whole body feels like restless leg syndrome, and you're getting up and moving a lot. And there's like a history of like a disease, like psychiatric disease of this. And I guess he was dealing with that to a to a debilitating point. Oh, God. Dude. Yeah. Restless leg is annoying as hell, bro. The death of your whole body, that's, like, torturous, right? Right, right. And I guess that's what she was maybe describing as like what spiritual warfare was like. I don't know, like he was under attack on some level. And I don't know man. I don't know what to make of this life. This life isn't like that kind of stuff is. I don't know man. What the dreams been. What the narrative, what the narrative, it is. This game feels so interactive sometimes. Or like your narrative is so interactive. You can go get after your day. You can go like and give your all basically. And things will transform. It's crazy. It's crazy. That's true. Now what what hierarchies should we organize ourselves in so that we can be the most effective and efficient. Like I don't know man. I, I just know what I would do. Let's assess the thing. Yeah. Because thought is thought. But then we gotta, you gotta get a bucket on my back. Yeah. Right. Oh he's seven six dog I know what I would do. You know. So I could tell you how to go get your bucket open. You can't tell. You know, I don't know how to slay your Goliath. But y'all got one. No. Yeah. No. Yeah, but that's why I'm like, it's on you like, you call it. You can call it. You know what I mean? Like I'm on because this data for me, no matter what, that's the other thing. Like, even if we don't go the direction I want to go, I'm still going to learn something about the direction that you went. And maybe I'm wrong, you know? Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. And then being a good leader would be like, vice versa. I'm like, okay, I was wrong and you were right. So I was like, maybe in the future we can blend more of our whatever or how to do things machine together. Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing. And that's a good thing. I should use your influence more. I feel that a lot in the pickup, because you'll be you'll be on a heater, and I'm like, I need to listen to just its influence. More like he's crushing it right now. Like, what are you feeling? What's out there, who you like. And you're like saying friends going in, dude. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's that fella's good. I'm really good at you, boy. Yeah, yeah, sure. That's helped me be successful so much that like, that's a, that's something foundationally I'm like, take other people's like, influence a certain level. What's going on. Your story and anything in your story is that like speaking to you crazy right now? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. Because if in your story it's like, I really I feel conviction or passionate about we should do this this. And that is different than saying like give me a city. You know, I'm saying like, give me the the magic, the magic potion. But then if you ask the question like, is anything in your story like this coming up a lot in conversation or like, you know, just picking up on some just seeing like Minnesota has been I got this podcast, this like news article or whatever. Like I just came back from Minnesota and was like, okay, that's more validation, you know what I'm saying? That's like a little deeper than that. I'm out of here. Yes. Minnesota is the thing that's been presenting in my life lately. I've been like three times in the last day. You. Oh, dude, that's the Holy Ghost. You got me. That's the Holy Ghost. Yeah. I'm out of here. Dude, that was dirty. Oh, man. I was just talking to, somebody was telling me Julian's going to Minnesota. Let's go. This is the first one. Yeah, this. That's not. He did. So I was like, get the Vikings. What about we will beat them for sure. Right. And that's the kind of thing where I'm like in the three. Maybe in the three at least. At least maybe the power dude let it ride C.J. Stroud. Make him proud. Trust the vibes. That's what the Minnesota that was. Believe it or not, that's what. That's the only way I've been able to be successful. Like in the NFL pics when I ride that feeling right there. Like that's the model, you know? Yep. That's it. That's it in real time. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. And then I just like authority assertion games because it's like I think in Minnesota I think they're playing tonight. I think right I think they play. No. Yeah I think they play in the nuggets. I'm crashing out over here right now. I forgot there were even a team. We should Dude, I'm not saying you should gamble, but 20. What is that one on our boy? You're gambling every day. Michael Jordan jr, you know. Let's go. What's Anthony Edwards? Yeah. There are 20 wrecks on air tonight. You are gambling every time. You are constantly. I think that's a book I want to write. I don't know if we like really pop off. We should write a book about like how. Because I see myself as being good at, we're going to make money gambling like, I don't know, I just think so. You call it gambling, I call it analyzing life. This little plan, what I'm saying. So I want to tell you. Yeah, I follow that, and I lose it. That's fine. Also, I want to have enough money onto the side, hopefully, where it's like, okay, like, let's run the model for like $10,000 this year. And then we've developed this model. Model more or less for like 6 or 7 years now I think. So at this point, like I do have a system like sometimes that system looks like, Coach coming back having restless body syndrome. Yo, what are we talking about? Yeah, I was going to, like, a more factual basis. I feel safe, judge. Obviously, you can summon it, but, man, you know, do something else I want to bring to the board. Was, You seen this bill? AB 26, 24 or whatever? No, they don't. Even also known as the stop Nick Shurley act. Oh, okay. No. So, naturally, as the guy that has been going into these Minnesota places. Yeah. The Minnesota spots. Now he's doing it in California. Okay. And then I believe the governor in California is constructing this bill, proposing whatever. AB 2624 but I guess it's, referred to as the stop Nick Shurley act to like, enforce fines upon, like, investigative journalism, more or less. It's like, what are we talking, do we get my gun yesterday or tomorrow? What do we do now, gentlemen? Oh, they're running their. What are you doing? What are you doing? This is. Slow down. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. It's a very. That was my direct response to I don't know, I'm. I like camera, but yeah, it was already drawn. The guns. Like that's what we're talking about. That's why we have the Second amendment is to protect our free speech. That's a that's a that's a crazy, a crazy structured world to live in. You know, that's what the free speech is built on. You know, that's what this country is built on. That's journalism trying to find out what's going on here, that finding out about the fraud. And then you're going to find me for like or mega findable for like recording on these particular places. That's I guess it's like that's going all your $10,000 for exposing the fraud. Yeah. You should be, like, funding me. You know what I'm saying? If anything, it's cheaper to pay this amount than the waste of money. The amount of money that we're wasting. Right? Saying, oh, you guys got to save us billions of dollars. What's the spirit of the bill? Is the spirit of the bill to like the to thought or like to stop transparency? Like, I think in a sense, yeah. Okay. If you're trying to, like, protect public property or private property. Okay. And you think that the people have a certain amount of. Right, like make sure it's creating a problem or like all these people are going to start going into all these places, like you can have a guy walking in with a camera and the like, they care about like a real like what's what's you if there is, there isn't a real daycare is the question. But if it's a real daycare, like what you're doing, it's like kind of heinous where like, can we be doing that? Like you could schedule an interview, you know, work something out with these people, but you could just roll in there like banging on doors or asking questions on private property, maybe, like, I could see how that could be illegal. You know, you get shot for that in Texas, bro, right? Chill out. Without that, I don't know what you're banging on. If you're banging on someone's door and it's private property, you know? But so I can see the legal argument for that, but I'm like, what's the spirit of why you're doing it, though? Because, like, you want to protect people or because you want to close up the transparency and, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. So that's the question because we shouldn't follow that spirit. That's what I'm trying to say too. I'm lying is dangerous, right? I think that's dangerous. Like it's a dangerous place to go. Yeah. We're looking for inspired thoughts from good spirits. Truth? Well, true thoughts. However, they're beautiful. Fresh fruit. That's good fruit. It's a good fruit. Juicy fruit. I got rainbow Skittles. Truth. Like fruit juice? Yeah, yeah, that's a real fruit. You feel me? Yeah. And it's I don't know, I was trying to intuit it or, like, it sounds kind of crazy the way we drive. Truth sometimes, for sure. Would you rather eat a skittle of a watermelon or a piece of a nice, juicy watermelon? No. Yeah. Water? No, brother. Yeah. Come on. Not even a question. What are we talking about? That's like the truth in a lot of, you know, like the lies you can you can consume it. But as I go through this work, it's not only because it's like structural level stuff like we shouldn't, but we shouldn't be buying stock in that fruit. Like, that's not the type of thing of this. Like, I don't know. So that's just like the I don't think that's the type of employee, like they're great for these reasons, but they're trapped for these reasons. And then this is the attitude that we're looking for. This is the energy that we're looking for. This is the kind of virtues that we value because these are good fruits. Then this is like I think that this person over here see how they're different between this person over here. But then I think their performance is actually more desirable because this is what I see that they're inspired by. This is the kind of energy that they're on every day, and their attitude about how they do things like the vibe. Yeah, yeah, that vibe is like much more beautiful. You're not feeling that like, I want to fill the room with that, like all the way around. Not only because it makes us, like better on average for any individual guest, right? But also because we'll make this place beautiful and then I'll have transcendent value. People will be in here and be like, this place is beautiful, you know, make it workplace beautiful. Make it all be to the extent that you can. Yes, but there's politics involved. It also there's teamwork involved and there's power dynamics. Crazy people happens. That's live. That's that's every game is that's that's what life is. Society people. Us. Yeah. That's the narrative we're in, man. That's everything. We're here. It's all of it. It's all there. Yeah. Okay, so I don't know what's going on with this bill. I'm not sure exactly the extent or the contents, but upon initial inspection and vibe check within my own home of soul and spirit, my birth was like, oh, this kind of like, doesn't feel that. I don't think that's a good way to go, although we should be doing that necessarily. But there is. I guess I could see the to the point that you're making as far as you don't want people just like pulling up on businesses all the time, but say, why not celebrate if you're like legit or whatever? I guess if it's the daycare you would have to like, there would be like a front desk and a person who would, like, talk to you and have like pamphlets or have some sort of information. So saying this early, like, right. Just pulling up to random spots. No. But then it because I guess, yeah, if you're looking for these services legitimately, you should be able to get them flexible. Yeah. Right. That's the thing. That's the thing. I do think that like if a guy pulled up with a camera and a microphone to my daycare and I was a restaurant, I'd be like, yeah, buddy, come on, pose. The stack stuck. You're right. He's lit. You're right. But you can't. It's like, definitely don't want to just be letting anybody into your daycare because it's like they keep all the doors locked and they have like a front desk. You know that, right? I got someone we kind of have something like that at our daycare. It's more of like an office. But, obviously, I think when we were touring, like, they let us in and give us a tour, but I think if they scheduled some kind of interview, you know, you could turn it on and flip it on its head for sure. Yeah. You could dunk the situation and make it like more like if if they're just looking for truth, it's very easy. Easily have someone be like, yeah, they were daycare. We offer like explain your service packages. Yeah. Like I can't like to let you guys in because it's a daycare, like, you know what I mean? But I'm happy to, like, do you guys have kids? Like, oh, they're kids, you know, I'm saying let's describe to you what that situation would look like. You could do that and handle it well. So I guess that's what they're not doing for sure. They're getting very defensive and, like, just freaking out and being like, get out of here. He's like, where's the kids? I thought to myself, like, if someone didn't have a daycare, I was like, punches that guy like the fuck out of there, bro. Take him down. Yeah, let's take him down. Because it is kind of like a sacred place in the sense, like every all these parents are trusting this one facility to take care of their children. No, it's like in a more primitive time. I'd like people with swords there, you know. Yeah, right. Protect the honorable people protecting the place. Protect the children. Yeah. To the future. You love them more than yourself. Like I'm like. Like I can. Yeah. You want them to be safe, I thought, yeah, but at least once. Like a dagger for a good person, it's almost like a sword. Make sure there's good people there. It's a whole thing. So for sure you don't want that. You want that too. Yeah. But I agree with you that what are you doing is trying to bring transparency to corrupt places. And if that's a true sphere of what he's doing and what the true. That's what the true spirit of of investigative journalism is like, supposed to be representing like in search of a legitimate truth, not trying to like, you know, spin, spin, anything in a particular narrative, particular or potentially or like purposefully just I guess it's like stating your beliefs, but also. Being honest in what you're doing. Yes. Ultimately it comes and honest things like the true spirit of what he's doing already. I guess what's the what's the what's the proposed argument? What does he do in he said. Or like, you know, just doing it for the views. Or maybe there's no truth to his claims or the spirit of investigative journalism. I can't really trust it. I don't know how how bright was he was his accuracy, right, with his viral videos being, like, accurately showing a place that was operating in corruption. So I think it's up to interpretation. Okay. That's up for debate. Some of them have been brought down, right? Like he's gotta think so. Yeah. Right. So not zero. Not zero. Yeah. But if you're just like blowing up a spot doing. And then also his videos weren't always super tasteful. They were just long hostile. Okay. But where are the kids? Where are the kids. So like it is a conflict. It was moment. Conflict you will moment. I think he has to do what he does better or like get more finessed. Okay. But it's also like are the rules we're making to constrain him wrong or like improper? Are we infringing on his ability for what's fair. You know. That's that's the that's a question for the judge. And do we have a good judge. That's a question for the system. As a court system. And that's a question for a judge. Yeah. You feel me. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. So that's there's truth in there for sure. You don't hear about Jordan Peterson. Yes. You my frickin guy bro. My guy bro. See that's the podcast that we try. Explain. If you're in the mic surely act try to get to the bottom of it. What's going on there. But your Christian Haas say anything about the nature of the act. Is there anything? I guess I just isn't. I'm interpreting it as like a like I said, infringement on, Shirley's freewill or like, ability to search for truth, like you're going to get in the way of that, you know, but then how true is your search for truth is he is he. We need to monitor that. We need to be aware of that, too. Yeah. You know. Yeah. As a wolf in sheep's clothing. Yeah. I think it's part of his journey, probably to do these things. I would guess it's in good spirit. Not bad spirits that are driving him towards wanting to be a truth seeker. And then maybe he's doing that really crudely right now, but it's part of his journey in his process, too, like refining his skill or becoming himself, being a more like sharp dagger, I guess, is what I think. Like, because like help Technic, surely he might be getting to. Yeah, okay. I just we're a bit of a death threat. For real. Yeah. Right. I keep trying to explain. Sharp objects is the only thing that comes to mind, but just realize it's like it is the double exponential of, like, more time for reps and better quality reps. It's like, that's a exponentially different experience. So then he might be on a path for an exponentially better experience as he goes. And what that would look like, you might be like, you know, one of the key reporters in our world, you know, you know, no talent. That's what I see for him. Yeah. It's a different kind of search, and he's like, I. Truth, I was just thinking about, like, a. He's like, looking at the system or like the the tangible. What's the tangible truth like? Objective truth. I guess it's kind of what his spirit is. But then there's like the like, no one's stopping Jordan Peterson from like or like professors or Nietzsche or philosophers, like, he's actually stopping them maybe from, where people you think trying to stop philosophers from posting stuff or like, I guess, right for Socrates's day, he was. And so it's in the youth like that. I do think that the system is rigid against truth speakers. It seems like often. And then, yeah, like with the Romans, with Jesus and then and yeah, they he said the world is round, right? JVP yeah yeah yeah yeah. You wait till he's on a deathbed to be like, why not the end of the universe? I'm dead. He was martyred on a bucket. No, you're at the end. Right there. Like. Oh, okay. Okay. So yeah, there's definitely pushback against your speakers. I think throughout time. Interesting dynamic we got going on there. The pneumonic man. But yeah, my dog potentially spiritual attack. Abstract realm attack. I've had restless leg I think we talked about this before. Right. I think I've ever experienced you said you haven't experienced before. Whereas having me a couple times I, I'm not sure what would bring that about, but just like annoying you know, saying like it's like saying move your leg. You cast like it just it is restless. That's like the only way to really describe it is it needs to move, but it doesn't ever get satisfied. It's always it's like a sensation, right? It's not like I'm in your muscles or in your toes. It's almost like a sensation in your leg. Yeah, that's. I have feel like I won't. Maybe I had like one night where I was like, yeah, I think that's what that was. Or. But, I don't know that that's what I'm saying. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. So yeah, for him it was like the mental realm is weird. His realm was crazy. He's currently dealing with a serious neuro, that neuro neurological condition, mostly most recently described as acute. They see. Yeah, I got to see it. And I know it's accurate. His idea I could, I could this year I get this I, I, I think this is right I get this I get this is a disorder that causes intense inner restlessness and an inability to stay still. His family says that this is linked to a neurological injury, possibly tied to past medical treatment, and compounded by other health issues. For so he had in 2025, he got diagnosed with chronic inflammatory response syndrome, or c ers. And this is often associated with mold exposure. So this is when he was in the hospital from cleaning out his dad's basement I guess afraid passed away. And then after that he suffered pneumonia. And then while he had pneumonia he had sepsis and such as, like, kills a lot of people. I just like where, you get in and I think, like an infection in your blood because it'll happen if like, I'm not sure what causes sepsis. I know that what happens when bacteria gets involved? It's not good, right? Yeah. No, no is usually it happens, like, if you have a surgery and you're cut open and then something from the outside world that wasn't supposed to get into the cut, like, makes you sick, like something was contaminated. Then I think you get sepsis. So it's like you're you're compromised. Rotten. Yeah. Right. And then, he's been absent because he stepped away from public appearances. And then now I guess I was just that happened in 2025. And then it was like, Chris pneumonia, hospitalization, sepsis overcame all of that. And then now is this, like a good this year. And it's just like also it's like it's sort of Peterson. So part of me is like chill out bro. Or like go for a run, bro. But, he must be like, you've gotta watch the video for the rest of the context, because if it's going to, I think you'd be pretty honest about how much it's really messing with them. You know? Yeah, I they're. I think I saw an interview of him and I'm watching the interview, and he's saying that there was a point where he couldn't even do the buttons on a shirt. He had to, like, relearn how to do the buttons in a shirt. He's like, that's the thing about the bottom. Is it like, wipes you out, man it like you forget how to the buttons on your shirt, man. Like, yeah, you forget how hard it is to like, start from scratch. Scratch. And I think that's what he was saying. Like he didn't realize that before with his clinical patients. That was like a new realization to him that when you get knocked on your ass and in the couple of years go by, you're like, really on your ass. And so but then I'm watching it and I'm like, this looks like an older him like this looks like it came out like recently. Yeah. When it come out I think it was posted like two days ago from when I watched it. I have it in my saved yo. Yeah. What's he gonna come back on if he's coming back dog. Well, Saad, you might be off, dog. If I were a Sephiroth, I'd be worried. His daughter. Oh, call on this is hospitalized. Dumbledore, bro, you're pissing me off a little bit. If you're going to take him out, take him out? Yeah, because if he came back, it was just a crisis. Getting crisis, getting taken. Okay, here we go. That's the boy. I gotta be careful, though, Nick. Surely be careful to. Why is I saying. Are we run by evil people? I don't think we run by them, but I think that I think evil gets into the world. Or is here. It's always been here. It's a natural inclination to eat the Skittles and then to justify that the eating of the Skittles is better. Yes. The entropy is the way of life. Okay, well, the kids get bored. Mind. More flesh. All flesh. Only flesh. Flesh. The flesh is flesh is what I'm saying. The concept of the fact that that is gravity, that it's an innate fight that you'll fight forever and it will manifest and grosser in ways over time. It'll be gross sometimes. Sometimes it'll be simple. But it's just that, like entropy, eating the skittle is better than eating the fruit. And then it's just that's always. That's scarier, though, than like a reptilian looking demon on some level. You know what I mean? Like, I guess if the demon is going to torture you, but it's like, that's living in hell. Like always eating the skittle and being everywhere that eats a skittle and having, like, life, not be as rich as it could be. That's that, that's a that's a hell man. That's. But that's gravity. The gravity is hell. So. And you're never going to get away from that. Never escape. That's the context. That's the context and that's the origin of the story. What is the story? Oh man. We're out there, the JVP, bro. He had a chapter in the re listening to 12 rules for life. Dope. I can't recommend it enough. He's the man very listening to that. And then I think it was like chapter seven. I want to say. And it was, do what is meaningful, not what is expedient in that chapter, particularly because I had heard the first multiple chapters, I feel like they're more fresh in my mind. But as I'm getting later into the book, like these ones are the second half, they're a little bit I don't remember exactly some of the points he was making. It was as clear and coherent whenever I'm like, drawing upon it from memory for some of the stuff that stuck out initially. Like, you know, I'm so like, I know this part of the movie, you know? Yeah. But then there's other parts of the movie of the audiobook where I'm like, getting hit again, and it's getting harder and deeper. I'm like, oh, this is dope. This guy's good. Oh yeah. Right. This guy's got. Real well, it's chapter seven was like that, bro. I got home and I was just like, oh my God, this guy's amazing. Yeah. Oh, Christ. He's awesome. Yeah, I gotta listen to 12 rules again. That's on. So awesome. I feel similarly listening to him too. But you know it's so, so good. Yeah. Sometimes he goes through like a page or like a paragraph of just like, I don't know, man. It's just a lot of information because he's describing something really deep and it's almost hard to follow. But then when you get down to it and you're just like riding the wave with him and he's like explaining, things are like, I don't know, man. It'll be like, this is the idea. And then and so it looks like this and he puts it really simply and I'm like, that's a good technique. I realized you got to be able to take like the complex diet, make it super simple. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe it's like the only way we can do so. So maybe you should pet a cat, right? Let him skateboard. Yeah, well, it's chapter seven. Do what is meaningful, not what is expedient. But there are parts in there that were just rocking. Yeah. It was just part of that. That was rocking bro. So with that chapter Doug I'm sure you can just jump out of order isn't even matter. They're so they're so good. It's so good that that that chapter particularly there was this part there was one portion for sure where he was talking about like, right, wrong. Like at his core, almost to a degree. And he's like, I've like, I've suffered and I've seen look through the results of just inflicting extra suffering and making like sport of it almost. And that and doing so for the sake of more suffering is wrong. Like that is like we could we could feel it in us, you know. So it's kind of like the argument people are like, oh, there's no right or wrong, you know? Right. Come on. He's like, you look at all of this and tell me that's not wrong. Yes. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah, there is a right or wrong. That's a difficult job. And so yeah, yeah, we need to I think we should operate in a realm where that's true. You know, I yeah, it's a good argument for the go with, ask everybody what they think about. I'm also like, where does that coming from? Explain where it's coming from and reference to what contextually. Why do you think that about this? If it's a gut feeling, that's okay. You know, that's an answer to it. If you can place if you could place because of these things, I think of of over here, make me think this thing over here that we can all decide. It's like what carries the most weight, I guess. What's the most truth? What's the most helpful thing? What's the focus right now? Or trying to be better on offense or defense? It's like there's so much context. It's all over the place throughout in in the context of surrounding and it do it's meaningful though is there's a right or wrong like there is hopefully you're able to like everyone of all kind of discerning about what's right or wrong. Yeah. I think as you're in a narrative, you're giving into the doing what's expedient. It's kind of into the flesh, into the fleshly things. The idea of that, expressed in a different way, experience. It's like this. Okay. Well, against good. Come on. Think people want to sacrifice that for the next, for the future? For things that are to come because things are common. People would argue that things are coming. I just got a comment. The harvest is comin and the good things are going to. Yeah, just things are coming. Things are coming. Oh, it's all the time. Yeah. They're coming. You're right, you're so right. We should account for that. We have to account for that in ourselves. Go ahead. And it's like, I will sacrifice the view of things that are coming to focus fully on the things that are happening. Things that are here now. You need to enjoy that as well. I guess you both enjoy the story. The proper way to sacrifice. Yeah, it's more beautiful. That's why it's like it's worth it. It's such a sentiment because it's like you're trying to convince someone to invest in the faith or the sacrifice. Yeah, right. Yeah. And that's all that. If we could just do that, we would just do that, you know. It's because we can't do that and we should do that. Why it's important. You know. So to it's worth it. Jump off the cliff. We can't always properly identify the worth the sacrifice perfectly all the time. We can't always identify the proper sacrifice perfectly agree with the all the time. Can you do our best? I think in any given moment, you can identify whether or not you're sure sacrifice is proper or not. Like. At least aiming that direction. Yeah. Aligned with your current axioms. So like that part of your journey, it makes sense to you. And it's good and it's what you should what you think should be done versus what you think shouldn't be done. You know. And then things happen and you progress through your journey and then you change your axioms and like they grow bigger and more in depth and the monsters get bigger and everything gets more like nuanced, too complicated. That's like the context. That's just like how life begin deeper and deeper. I dig it. But regardless, at every station along the way, I think that there is you do have a conscience and you are going through a narrative, and you should to do the thing that's good. Not like objectively, like I guess morally, but like strategically good. You know. But other people would argue that this is all just everybody just living life man. You know not everything is always like a moral dilemma of doing right or wrong. These are just like decisions and paths and choices and which just it doesn't matter doesn't matter doesn't matter. We're all just living life man. To do what you want to do and do what you want to do and like that's not what I think we're it's weird because then I'm like, it's just the alignment. Okay, well, for it depends if because I'm aligned with Christ, I think of my life as a narrative and like, I'm trying to do my best. And the framework for that more or less tells me that there's going to be proper sacrifices and there's going to be improper sacrifices. And we should give the proper sacrifices to God. Now, this is where we're going to get kind of deep, because it's like metaphysically, I think that's represented in a bunch of places through the Bible, what it means to give your proper sacrifices to God. But I think ultimately it boils down to like, do the right thing and then obedience, right? Yeah. That obedience is translated in a bunch of different ways. There are a bunch of different parables and moments in the Bible that are just, like, metaphorically hard when Jesus said this, but it's like what he said when he said that. I'm not just saying that. He said that. I'm pointing to the fact that that Scripture represents a metaphysical idea that's also apparent in the Old Testament. Like is like hyperlinked. It talks about it here, it talks about it there. This is when good fruits are talking about like mercy and grace and forgiveness. You know, like Jesus represented mercy, grace and forgiveness too. Like, yeah. Or it's like the I just had the connection right now of like the, I think it's Proverbs 1821 and it's, the, the, the good fruit. Oh, I forget the exact words like the good, the good for in the bad for like, all right, now the fruits of the of speech. And be careful what your words like your your tongue. You know, I'm saying be careful with the fruit that your tongue produces, more or less. And like their proper speech and then like you, and then also like later on in the New Testament, talking about like you'll know the by their fruits and the fruit of the Holy Spirit, and the patient like patience, like if you're if you're able to articulate the truth, like, it'll look like this is but hyperlink text. I have like ideas of things that are talking about metaphysical abstract quantum physical material here. Yeah. Traversing through narrative, bruh. Being a human being which live. Did I agree with you? Life and death are in the power of the times. Smith. I have it here. There's two of them. There's one that's about the life and death and the power of the tongue. And then there's another one that just says, like, I'll pull it up on the. I just pulled up scriptural because I was thinking about this after the last part. We we're talking about trolls. And I was like, where's the scriptural foundation for like, how much we should? Because what comes to my mind is like your power of voice, like of all the things you could use it for. You want to use it for that. That's what like offends me or whatever, you know, or why I think it's bad culture. It's like, yes, I guess you could disband the chat, but that seems like what a waste of a powerful thing you have, you know. The a gift that God gave us you know. Yeah. To. Yeah. Proverbs 1821 death and life and the power of the tongue and those who love it will eat its fruits. And then talking about the fruits of the spirit on the other side of the Bible. Okay. I think that's an example of like. These metaphysical ideals are hard to identify and hard to operate in. But we get different angles of different windows into them to help us understand like what grace is or what mercy is or like, these bigger ideas, these buzzwords that are hard to like, identify exactly what it is. It's like, it looks like this over here, and it looks like that over here. And then like, I think that's another reference to how you brought it out too, is like, well, what you can do with your speech, what you should do with the, the power of your arm, of your speech. Really? I was like your tongue, I guess, is how the Bible says it. But, like that you could build someone up every day, or you could break them down every day. You know, that's just like the beginning of what you could do with your speech. Just by how you talk to people. Yeah. How you articulate thought so. Yeah. But all that to say because I'm aligned with Jesus I have access to that. So we come along common problems are like we're trying to figure out solutions of why we should do something or even like which system, how the system should operate. That's where it gets like, that's the that's the essential part of the whole thing, I think. I think that's why I see Nick Saban working on that. And I'm like, okay, like he fucking gets it because it's like, if the whole system is truly aimed at something and the sacrifices that we're making are aimed at that thing, then nothing will at least take us a direction to let us get some data. And then once we have data, we can adjust our direction. But we gotta start going somewhere you know. So the control and doing things machine, you've got to act like controls what we do. What are you obedient to. What are we looking at. I think I was just thinking bear, I think I was thinking the same scripture you were at Proverbs because I had seen that one. That's the one that stuck with me. Just, definitely far on the part of the tongue as guess. So. Yes, it can, because I say you you can speak words life, or you can speak words of death. But I thought it came from that cowboy movie. I think it is. He uses that as well in that movie. Yeah, right. Okay. But then I was like, my head was like, oh, I don't know if that's scripturally based. But then I saw that and I was like, okay. Yeah. So that's like from, from something, you know, from something like core, that's Bible core. It's Bible talk. Yeah. I guess whoever guards his mouth preserves his life is another one. And then the be quick to listen and slow to speak. So like important usage for like how to talk. Do not be quick with your mouth. Let your words with you. It's far. Oh yeah. Here's one in Ephesians. Let no corrupt talk come out of your mouth, but only what is helpful or building others up. Yeah, there we go. Boom! That there that. That's what I'm talking about. That's it. So like silence is good unless you're going to add to it to make things better. Or if there is something that needs to be said than silence could be the lie. You know, John Pearson has mentioned silence. If you have something to say, the silent silence is a lie to a degree like lie, omission. Yeah. So it's like, on both sides of that. You know. Thanks, dude. Colossians four six says, let your conversations, we always full of grace. That's another thing. If you're walking into a conversation that feels real disgraceful, it's kind of gross. If someone just like, get a grossly describing attractive woman, you could imagine a lot of ways that conversation feels disgraceful. Certain levels you feel like different age brackets. That's funny. Yeah. It's, Galatians 522 to 23 be the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things, there is no, like going to. Right. So that gives me a perspective. And I think people will there's so much deterred connection going on between like what that means to someone else when I'm like, that's my perspective on how I should do this. I'm like, does it drive on the fact this is the only way anything works for me? You know, like my relationship with Jesus and like trying to follow the Bible and trying to do what, like the right thing is for like people more and more in depth as it goes on in my life. I learn more about it. But it's not just because I'm like, that's what a Christian thinks, you know? That's what a Southern Christian thinks. It's like, I guess, and not like, oh, I legitimately think it's the best way forward. Yeah. Like I'm convinced. Yeah. You know, yeah, I'm pursuing this at a higher intensity. Is worth it. You know, it's that. Yeah. I'm like, I could arrange all these words for you to explain that. Yeah. That's what we're doing on this podcast, more or less for hours at a time. It's not my life necessarily. JP. JP, things are happening, but dude. Yeah, it's it's just so worth it, bro. It's just so worth it. Yeah. We went to Brandon Lake like a week ago on Thursday. I'm pretty sure. Great show the the Double experience. And he writes a lot of songs I guess I we've even heard at church as well because I guess he co-writes for different worship groups or has co-written for worship groups or some of that. So I heard a couple extra songs that were like when, like, we knew them, you know, and jazz know it, and it was like, or it was, it was more interactive in that way. If you go to a concert, you know, like any of the songs at all, you're like, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's like listening to the radio, almost. Someone turns to you. They're having like the night of their life. They're just like excited you up and you're just like, I wish I was there with you, man. Yeah. I'm not. That was, you know, like, I don't know the discography like that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But that's cool though. That's cool that that was it would be more, more energetically emotionally engaging in that way. That was dope. But at the very end it was tight because I was like, this is a he's like a as we mentioned him before, but he's a big country rock kind of country, the gospel or the, worship music writing author artist. And he's, this is a dope show. And then this the at the very end, I felt like, I don't know, like, weird. It was great. It was. It was a great, great, great time. But at the very end, I was just like, I felt like, more attached or more like, almost. Casey. Around the corner of what was the happening, I was I was in the moment the whole time, like it was engaging. But then the very nice, like, felt like I got in front of it a little bit and I was like, I should start, like, chant, like it was the. It was the end of the show and I was actually starts chanting out like Brandon Lee or like start a chant, you know, saying, because you want to start a chant, you kind of just do it, especially if it's in agreement with what everyone's thinking in the moment. Yeah. And then I was like, I know, I don't think even chant start. Oh. I don't know about that. Right. Chant starter thoughts. Tell me about them. It's just the other day. No no no, it was it was like this analyzing the moment and thinking that I. So he wouldn't even want that though particularly he probably was chanting Jesus, you know saying and then not even like five seconds later there's a Jesus chance to start up was like, yo, I was that's nutty. That was that was crazy. Pursuing this thing. I think it was it was getting to where that story stemmed from. Like pursuing that guy. Pursuing that thing is a super worth is the only something worthwhile. The fruits of that, the result of that will be the only worthwhile, most truly, the most truly worthwhile. And we can we could try to do our best to get to that. And we're going to mess up. Yes. Based on be there facts talk to George Christ always working. He's always there. Always there. It's always there because you're always here. You're always in. Yeah. You when you're sleeping. Yeah. You're in the game. Lord knows what's going on. There's a whole nother dungeon under. There's a it's the upside down. You know what is going on in there. It's the upside down for real thing. Stranger things. Yeah, man, I feel like I know, like there's like a a war going on inside of you too. Or that when things aren't going good or things when chaos comes, if you're not aligned within everything you want to do and like, have a relationship with yourself that's allowing you to navigate through life. If you're doing it very like chaotically and destructively with your axioms and your identity and who you are and what your narrative is, I think, well, that's not good. Okay. For some, you know, it's not. We're supposed to. We don't go. That's not fruitful. Sperm glue. I don't want to eat that fruit right now. But how do you go back and fix that? Like it's self authoring, I guess, you know, but. I guess I don't know what the, the dichotomy of that was important for something that we're talking about pursuing the Jesus thing or it's it. The fruits of your spirit. That's really cool, man. That just that feeling of Jesus is the only thing that we should worship is like something that I feel a lot. I just feel like the same way you're like, he wouldn't want us to say his name. He'd want us to like, put don't put worship energy on me. Put worship energy on that. And I think that that's like just something that I hold as a tenet as like that worship energy goes for Jesus. You know like this girl was drunk. She's like do you love tequila. And I was like why don't you like do you love tequila? And I was like, I like tequila. She's like, no, but do you love tequila? I was like, I love Jesus. And then like, I felt like it was like important that I said that. I was like, let me, like, I don't even want to talk about things like that, you know what I'm saying? Thanks. Because worship energy goes for Jesus, Brandon. Like Jesus. Like, that's that's an important thing, you know? Now, what does Jesus like the way forward? What is that way forward like grace love mercy self-sacrifice. And don't you want the spirit of the fruit. Don't you want those things. Right. It sounds like. Good. Thanks. Yeah. You're always here and he's a that was one thing that you said to. Yeah. Always here. And God is always with you. Like that's a cool thing about this life. So he's he's a good god. He's benevolent God. And we're just like dropped off on planet Earth, like, enjoy. So there's a lot Warren chaos going on. It's kind of hard over here. It's a scary, scary movie. It's a scary, very good. It's like. It's not like that. It's like with you literally every day. Oh, yeah. Oh, for everybody, it's the thing that's generating your experience. It's it's they're like the power source. Like you're plugged in and plugged in toxic. We're gonna think about the electricity that's powering the machine or the machine is thing, but the atrocities or so on. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's I mean the electric, the electricity is like the machines. God. Like where the machine electricity is plugged into us, that power powers a machine. And then that machine is plugged into something that's generating the power. Yeah. So God is the thing that generated or connected to the power core that we're connected to. That's applying it with life or whatever. You know, saying that experience, existence itself. Yeah. Otherwise would just be like another animal, right? It'd just be like they'd be humans. That's part of the evidence to it. Or like, yeah, we see other things and we're like, they're not plugged into the same thing. We're plugged into it. Right? Right. The plugged in like we're alive for sure. Yeah. Their life. Yeah. As far as we consider life to be. Right. But as far as what we got going on. Yeah, yeah. No, that go right there. We make movies about stuff. Yeah, yeah. The communicate. But they don't talk. Yeah, I think that, I don't know, maybe a relationship with that thing is hard if you're always disrupting your own life, is it hard to understand? Just everything is. Yeah. I guess you just have a bunch of bad fruits. You're like, what? A bunch of efforts? It's like, because you're not living your life, right? It's like, what am I even doing wrong? I'm gonna just try my hardest or like, getting by her. That's one hard I mean that's a hard sell. That's the hard part. That's not what. That's all I'm saying. I know what I saw on that. No. So this thing about Jesus, it's so complex, it's like what to do and a relationship and where worship goes, it's like it goes deeper and deeper. But Brandon like the like. I guess I'm good for. That was time, though. Super cool, tight moment. It's the only thing that's like, worthy man, I think so because you're you. Because you have to. You had to give it to something. You obedience. What are you obedient to. You're you worship. Yeah. You're hitting that. Yeah. That's that seems so true to me. Right. Well you have to give it to somewhere. It has to go somewhere. Yeah. So that's maybe that's another way to look at He is worthy. It's like when we sing that or when you see that, what that means to you, you know, it's like, like your worship is going somewhere. It's like he is a worthy place for, you know, because it's like, yeah, who who is anybody to say that they're worthy of your worship? That's a crazy thing. But we also subconsciously worship all the time, all these religions, right? Yeah. A prophet. And then it's always like you're saying a lot. They'll kill you for that here, man. Like, you can't just be saying you're worthy of worship, bro. I don't think Jesus ever. Like, I think we said he is worthy. Yeah. I'm not sure how many times you said I worthy of your worship. You know, I think you just perform miracles in front of you. He's just like a walk in bucket. It's like, yo, that guy's crazy. Yeah, that's his facts. Beyond crazy. Literally miraculous. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's just true. Yeah. You don't even really want necessarily worship as a kid, as a father. You want. It's like love right. You don't want your kids like worship you per se. Get them to respect you and love you. And. I guess. Yeah. So I can love and then want to. Be a good person, I guess. Like to make you proud to a degree, but also just because they are like a good person, right? Yeah. So I had to stop off my head. That's like maybe worship is tied to like the fact that we need to have ideals. So sometimes, like you would see like a, like a movie star, embody an energy and then you would be like, oh, that's idealistic. Like, I want to be like that guy. And that kind of will translate into like, worship, like you're sure Z or put posters up on the wall or like, try to dress like that person and try to emulate that kind of behavior energy be that ideal. But I think that's just a byproduct of the fact that we operate in a place where there are ideals, like we need ideals, we're all trying to figure out how to be what's the best way forward, what's the best direction to go in. Because I had a I had a super deep thought the other day was like notably, I was like, that's the kind of thoughts we should be thinking. Are we thinking thoughts? Thoughts you got out there? Like, if people are not the representation of people that we see and like the media, like people are a different thing, that how they're represented. And I think that people are like more vulnerable and more don't necessarily want to know what to do. Like sometimes we expect people to like when we watch a movie and somebody just says, like John Wick, like shooting, killing everybody. He knows what to do. And he's hyper competent, like hardly anybody is just nobody, no person is really just like doing that every day. We're all kind of like trying to figure this out here, and we want to try our hardest, but also are dealing with the fact that, like, you know, life is hard. I guess. And then but more or less like everyone's kind of vulnerable in that sense. So like, I think anybody who's like giving off confidence, like true confidence is kind of crazy. That's like. If you're really aware, fatty. Yeah, dude. If you're really aware enough to read in a room and feel confident because you know all the context and the subtext of everything around you, and it's all going predictably in such a sense that you don't feel any vulnerability and you're crushing, you know, like, that's phenomenal. That's that's absurd. People, maybe we should respect people that have developed a true confidence, because that's kind of crazy. But anyone anyone who's trying to embody a confidence that they don't already have, like, what are they? They're emulating something that they're not. And so I think that's what happens is we're vulnerable, we're vulnerable people. And then we take like opportunities to emulate things like we're trying to figure out how to be like oh that's kind of ideal. Let me like try to do that you know. But more so it makes people because I kind of expect people to be like in these archetypical roles or like who they claim to be or what their identity speaks of them. But then at the same time, people have a hard time, just like fulfilling roles successfully day in and day out or what that looks like for anybody, or if that's even how they're processing time. So they help me conceptualize. So that's why I think people like rappers because they're real like extra with that persona. Like the more extra you can be the more it sometimes is vulnerable. People will be like, yeah, give me more ways to define my cool ideal or what swag looks like. Or like what? I don't know, like. Movie stars to, like, Tom cruise jumping off of, like, the crazy stuff that they do in movies. Like, give me more ways to define what, like a true good guy looks like. Like make it make it absurd for me. Think sometimes. Well, appreciate the absurdity of Tom cruise jumping off a plane onto another plane and then, like, crash landing that plane and jumping out and getting the bad guy like, that's insane, bro. Nobody, nobody does that. Nobody's doing that in their life. You might never even be close to anything like that. But we watch and we're like, yeah, yeah, that's that's awesome. That's awesome. I want to be like that guy. Except for James Bond. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't come down to that. But sometimes, just like because we're this thing that's trying to figure out how to be sometimes just being really extra with it or taking it to like the highest levels of our imagination is fun for us. So I think that's why movies sell or why people like certain artists like because it's a representation of like, oh, I feel like Amy Winehouse sometimes. And then what else is the song like? I get what she's saying. And then she also, like, gives me some kind of interpretation and a way to embody those feelings. How is she embodying those feelings? She says, no, no, no. And I'm like, I felt that, you know, I felt safe this every day. Every day. One word followers. So you feel it's the energy. That's how people like a simple two. It's like because they're just a vulnerable person trying to understand ideals and interpret things like, it's better to like, explain the idea and then break it down super simply hope people understand it better, show people pictures. They're vulnerable. People like if you're teaching them, this is what it looks like. This is what it's going to be. This is how you do it. You'll do it. You can do. The thing is, you can show them a picture by just like demonstrating and using better words to paint a picture in their mind. So like so yeah, that that because next events like use pictures. And I was like you could use pictures up here too. And a place where you don't have pictures, just say imagine this is happening and imagine that's happening. And then imagine you come across this problem. Like, how would you feel about that? What do you think we should do about that? And then you will like put the image in their mind and then they could prepare for it before they enter the battle place where the problem as a chaos demon will appear and they'll have to like Amber. Amber Joy part, bury the hatchet. It's all right. Yeah. And it's tough. I don't know, like so many followers, he's the guy that's friggin shot. The guy that's on the $5 bill. Who's that? Let's see. That was it. Yeah. Yeah, it's. Oh, he's the guy who shot Alexander Hamilton. So he's got an Aaron Burr. Was, no, paint a picture with the words. Yes, you can do that. Yeah, yeah. It's like the virtual reality training that was his name was doing that quarterback for Washington. Daniels or. Yeah. Jalen Jayden Daniels. You got, Some other. Right. Yeah. This year and Daniels. Yeah. When he was at LSU he was using VR headsets for art. I was like the only after he won the Heisman then like 18 other programs bought the same software or like the company that made that whole set up for them. They purchased it and got it installed in their programs because they were like, well, there was on the right. So and then yeah, I guess why it was better is because you see it before and you learn it before. Then you get in the moment your beard like prepared. You know, you don't spend any time learning modeling. You already have a learning model. You're executing. Yeah. So. That's crazy going off. If you saw before that we we're talking about that was an idea about people who are vulnerable and not exactly like you see in the movies like Tom cruise. You know you see a girl hot girl and hot girl in in the movies. It's like I think for girls it's still hard to like, embody what that means. Like, if girls like, want to be attractive or, like, embody whatever, I don't know, like desirable feminine energy, you know, like, I have a daughter, you know, I'm saying I think about these things sometimes. Yeah. Facts dog. Sheesh. Yeah. Right. Like we see a confident hot woman in a movie and we just like take that for granted. Like I think that's like all of life is if you could do that every day like do you'd be trippin on how cool life is. It's like really hard to because it requires awareness. Like it's all about are things going as you expected them to go then how do you have a model for your expectation. And so that's a lot of internal work. You know what I'm saying over here. And then new things chaos happens. Disruption is your confidence truer than any possible chaos that could occur. Like how I handle stuff like it's fine. What's going on the face. Yeah. Right. So I don't know anything. So I'm really good. And I'm like, God, how's everything for me? Yeah, yeah, that's even truer. Confidence. God. Confidence. Welcome to the confidence part. Confidence. I ain't tripping on nothing. It's hard. It's hard to be there for real, for real, for even Peter at the sermon he was talking about when he was saying that. Yeah, Peter got and I'd heard the Peter getting crucified upside down portion before, I think I was on West Half. He mentioned it first time. I probably heard it on Joe and then, but then it tagged on things and his wife got crucified. He's like, don't deny him more or less. I was like, oh, okay, that's the loop. That's different. That's difficult obedience. That's that's diffi oh, that's that's that's a that's crazy man. That's crazy man. Yeah. I mean, that's that's crazy. I guess you can be a nut be. Christ. Come on. Like, you know what I'm saying? He was also literally crucified. Not for being the king of the Jews, but for not denouncing Christ. Yeah, exactly. Upholding. Refusing to to compromise the ideal. And I think that's kind of like what we're called to do to being Christ like, I forget what I think, I maybe hear this from myself, but some sort of I remember I have like a biblical informational tagline just like stored away, but it was like, Oh, no, I'm saying push off. Okay, well, you were listening to myself and there was no tagline. I forget where it is in the Bible. I'm trying remember what the phrase phraseology was and where I was pointing to was that, yeah, if we remember where we were pointing to, it might be a bridge. The, I can feel the mental image of what I was just talking about. It's like read. I can still just see it that your mind is such a thing. I'm getting. And I'm not dying for the lie. Or like, oh, yeah, be crucified upside down because you refuse to compromise the idea. All right? That's all it was. It was part of that attached to that because, I think there were saying that you could, like, still, like, worship him, I guess. Or. But you can't say that he, like, came back from the dead. I think it was like the ultimate stipulation. Okay. One of the one of the one of the negotiation contract points. It's funny because that's like what it hinges on today and today's doctrine. It's like, did your did Jesus really rise from the dead? Because then your prophets crucified rose from the dead. That's a defining. That would be it if the resurrection day did. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Did we really did that? Did. Yeah. That's crazy talk. So getting them to deny that would be they could they could pretty much sweep everything else under the carpet, you know, yeah. And I guess Paul's sorry for that. Your wife die for that too. It's like, yeah. Paul star resurrected Jesus on the way to Damascus as what happened, I think. I'm not sure. I know he was on his way to persecute Christians or something like killing Christians. Paul. Damascus. I'm not sorry. He saw Jesus apparently resurrected at some point. Yeah, seeing that for real? For real. Believing in that. For real, for real. To that extent of punishment or, you know, consequence. Yo, that's heaven. Yo. That's heavy. Yeah. No burden. And his burden is light as he light. Yeah. He's like, I won't lie I won't do it. Does he does he does he as he Paramaribo as he Tyler. Hero. I believe in that. I'm not the always man. It doesn't always manifest, I think, as I compromise your tongue. But it does manifest as like compromise. The ideal. And then there's times where. Yeah you got to identify the ideal and the other. Surround yourself in a community of people that agree with what your ideals are. So that way you feel valid about how you feel. Yes. More predictable and more safe in that regard. A little more sustainable. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's like you're in a conversation with somebody who like knows what you're talking about and then like, you don't feel so crazy anymore. You know, sometimes you're in church with everybody and it's like we're all dealing with this, you know what I'm saying? And they're like, if we all have the framework of the Bible, it's like, I am dealing with that. That is what's going on here. It's like, okay, well, this is specifically probably for somebody, but everybody can draw from the thing that I'm talking about and then put it back into other places in their lives, you know, and that's kind of a crazy thing, too. However, how we're all down to just listen to a scripture and a breakdown of a scripture and then take it and apply it into what we got going on, and we're all like, nice, cool, very more scripture for my life. That is what we do. So I guess, yeah, I think just being around people where that's the framework can be like, it's important. It's important because you can get talked out of that being the framework unless you kind of know, like now I gather with like 3000 people and we all agree this is the framework. This is what we're doing here. And then that's the context is that this is kind of like a difficult thing sometimes for life itself, you know, so. Yeah I kind of trip out on that sometimes. Want to like leave in the parking lot. And it's like there's so many people here. Yeah, there's so many. Yeah. They do it like like 20 Easter services, like 25 to so many people to 42,000. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. My goodness. It's like bigger than a lot of towns right. Center is huge bro. That's how many people you manage. Yeah bro. When we be going off way the Spurs and Bucks when he's doing it up for transcendent. He that's the doc. He. So that's how he goes up. Oh the previous record for San Antonio's rookie playoff debut is Tim Duncan 32. And he D. That's that's just a metaphor right there. That's bigger than a record. That's like a that's that's a foreshadowing. He's like okay he's taking us somewhere. Yeah he might be the one to me D record. That's the one. Look in symptoms. You know. He looks like the one that could be on Nio. Yeah. Let's follow him. We're on you. There's yeah, there's a couple of plays where he like frickin had like a he's breaking off in a fast break from the rebound. Takes it down court and then ends up executing like a tight spin move through the lane and then like it's a dunk finger roll. You know some weird two steps like seven six looking. Yeah. Two step kind of mini layup dunk from forever away. He looks like the spin move. Yeah it is a tie spin dude. Yeah we stop I'm moving I'm like he's an alien. I get it. Hitting corner threes. Fadeaway corner three. He's throwing that leg out. Just bang. Oh yeah he's crazy. He's not something you see every day I want to be sure I want the aliens. Sure. And the the Spurs are no versatile Spurs I don't I hope they make it far. I think the Spurs are going to be good. They have a young team too. We took care of the the boys, the rooks. For the guy who don't own Nikola Jokic should take care of all super fat. I really crazy dude. Just don't even let it affect it bro. That's a I don't know I don't know Ginobili bro a legend legendary. So we'll try. You remember like I'll be like this I don't even know me like that. He knows it. He might hate me like there's a lion two time double faced I'm like bro if I came if I were going out for my birthday, I would eat the same thing you just ate on a Tuesday. Like I'm not lying to, you know, I promise. Sit down and talk to me about the crazy thing. No, no, I mean, I don't want it. That's crazy. It's cool. Ginobili Spurs it. Oh he just he just held the knife the whole time. The steak knife. He wouldn't ask me for a steak now if I didn't have a steak knife. And he was just like playing with the steak knife. You know I just I was like, you seem lethal. Like, I don't want to sell you about this. Oh, little. I'm a little nervous. Why are you holding that knife right now? That is super cool. That's so cool. Nice gentleman. But, yeah, try not to let it. You know, we're just. People are like. It's a cliche thing to say. They're not just people. But in the moment, I try to. Yes, I sort of believe that. No, but yes. Yes. But no but yeah. So that's the thing is, they are this vulnerable person who's just trying to get their life on like more fundamental level that deserves grace and forgiveness for anything. But in this moment, they're just cool as hell. It's like you're also fucking Manu Ginobili. You know that is an overwhelming thing. That's so. The most famous person I've served like directly. Yeah, it's incredibly directly like that. Yeah. That's cool. Is that someone asked me that question the other day. I didn't even have a good day. I forgot who I said, I think I said Cousin Johnson, maybe. And then there was, like Tim Vassell and, you know, some NBA players. I was like, those guys are still out there hooping for the Spurs. But then I forgot about that that time whenever they came in with the rookies. And then Manu was there, I was like, oh, that was the one I think. I think that was really the one that was cool as hell above. That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. But the sniper pupu. Oh no I had Johnson on that one too. That's a scary topic to discuss. You want to make sure it's nice. Oh maybe we don't care do we care. Maybe your average is fine. Do we care. How much do we care. These are questions. Do you care enough to do something about it? The system requires care. I do. We just let it out, let it ride. It's your system. Your system's like organizing these people's lives. The physical, physiological response to their life, like, defines what they find meaning in. It's like the system is deeper than the system, bro. It's got to make sense of. It's got flaws. Okay. That's fine. It's got to flourish. That's fine. You got to forgive today. Flourish. What's up in my text? Said you got a free gift today. Hey, gifts. Nice, nice. Thanks, Fabletics. You have great marketing. Give me that gif. What gift wrap? Yeah. Man falls down to Jesus. Let Bible sick. It's so dope. So worth it, bro. I don't even know what's going on with that. It's so deep. So so multilayered. Sensitive LGBT comes back on some Jesus King to man. That would be incredible. That would be something. That would be something, bro. Honey, hear his account of the situation of the what he experienced during that time, as far as his mental psyche, his recollection of that story, that chapter. Yeah, maybe he needs more time to break it down. I'm sure he does for everyone. But what happened? The thing I'm sure it's like a dream, almost dream esque portion of life or like super, surreal and almost abstract, where he's like, what is this? This is so different from regular life. It's like a dream almost. In that sense, when he's going through all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Also imagine like having conquered like the money, the money problem in such a way that your doctor same the doctor psych. Right. Is this kind of what this what I'm asking too. Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. That you see him like he didn't need to go to work to pay his bills. He probably didn't like he didn't need the bills weren't a thing. The advocate like running his system wasn't a thing. So he's just in a hospital bed, like, detached from. He's fine. All he has to do is recover. So that's also such a weird state of mind to even imagine, you know. And we'd be thinking like my life is crashing down. It's like, no, that's fine. Like I'm, I'm crashing down, you know, it's scary. Yeah. What's one title. Love to. Let's see what comes back from. It comes back all joy to me sometimes. Hopefully like I say, well, we'll watch a, McKayla update to say with him, but yeah, dude, that chapter seven and that book going nuts. Definitely. Good chapter. Listen to I'm going to I'll check it out. Going nuts bro. I'm going to find a next seven book. And he's just the man. Yes I will be tight I know he's got some shoes in there. Yes, bro. Oh, damn. Can I get him a tattoo on Wednesday? I said I was just thinking about that this weekend. I was in, we going on? I haven't seen the sketch yet if I sent it today or tomorrow, but I had the guy who did the back piece. This is a crazy story moment walked in and there was this all, like crosses and Jesus merch or, you know what I'm saying? Just just Jesus all in the room. And just like, wet dreaming, like, oh, this is okay. That I get like this Jesus statue. Same guys doing this tattoo on. They do a statue of David on the right. Oh, I'm sure he's I trust them. He's he's dope. He's good. And he's like inspired by that. And I walked in there and I was like oh okay. Yeah this is all right. This is good. This is a good sign. Some good for you here. This smells nice. I love that this is crazy. A way to feel about many out of how many artists in the city of San Antonio, you know? Yeah. How many different things to look through or possible outcomes to the story to occur. But this is the outcome. If I go out of my way to set that up and it's like, oh, this is sales. Yeah, this is like, oh for the Minnesota. Yeah, it was weird. Like that was a cool moment we captured. Yeah. So that was crazy talk. Yeah. Like confirming and affirming. Firming it up. It's real firm farm foundation. Wow. That's firm. Whoa. Denver PD yeah we like that you know. Right. Yeah. You lean on it and I can rock with it. Yeah. Do anything else in the world. That. Yes. I just want to talk about the Shirley thing and the Jordan or Adrian Peterson thing in this tattoo. Lambie going crazy. That was dope. You said dreams have been dope in your in your life lately, so. No, it's, I'm multi-dimensional. Becoming aware. Like, sometimes it's like I'm in the narrative and then I'm like, oh, I'm in a dream. I need to hold on to this feeling that sometimes I. It's like, oh, if I feel it too hard, I think I'll wake up. Like, I got to really subtly it. Don't forget you're in a trance. This is your dream. You're definitely dreaming. But at that, that's a thought. But it's a feeling I hold like a like a consciousness I'm holding. And sometimes that consciousness is slipping away. And I'm slipping back into the dream of just like being in the narrative, you know? But then, like, just the no movement. Yeah. Beep boop. And for sure. But it's like, it's weird because I don't feel it here. But this is part of the feeling of like, I'm like, I'm not there. Like, that's what life is. And this is a dream. And then this is like, I don't know, like I'm out of the matrix right now, you know? I don't know what to do with it yet. And I gotta protect it and hold it and not let down of the slip away from me. And like, I gotta make a run for it at some point, you know? Like, I gotta get out of here. Yeah. If I get out of here, I could do it. Yeah. Right. That, Yeah. So that sometimes like that. Sometimes it's like I was just like, half in, half out asleep. And then I was like, thinking to myself that whatever I was thinking was important. And then I was like, oh, wait a minute, this is a point at all. I'm just like, asleep right now. And then I felt the dream push back and be like, now these things are important. Like, you know, this is the narrative. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, this isn't life. I'm asleep right now. And then I just like woke up and I was like, just open my eyes. I was like, oh, yeah, I was right. This is life. This is really crazy. Stuff goes, yeah, I guess the dreams are crazier. Yeah, right. Make less sense. I think it's my brain's constantly trying to say like, oh, these things aren't important. Or like, all this emotional weight I'm feeling from all of the thinking about these things. I'm like, this isn't real. Yeah, there's no real. No, this it is. It's a make your boss. But it's not. It was definitely not. It was. But it is. It is that. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. It's like, what do you do when you become lucid in your dreams. Yeah. You have a, like a badging me oh thank God that was like. That's just a dream. I don't have to bear the weight of the negative consequence or bear the weight of that emotional state or whatever. I was like, I was just doing okay for better life. Yeah, yeah. That is the. It's nice that it's a playground and not like your actual life. I've, It's less permanent. Yeah. It changes to radically. It's too much chaos, not enough order. Yeah. It's just like, what do you do? You have, like, the objective to do when you become lucid is so it's like fantasyland. It's it's also same thing with life. If it became like free of all constraint here, what would you do? You know. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Fun or. A little bit of everything. Have some fun. Pursue the most worthy thing. Designed my sacrifices to be the sacrifices I want to make. I get super into fitness. Stop working somewhere, you know, so I spend my time, like, just how I want to spend it, I guess, you know? But. Yeah. How do you translate that into a dream? Let's go to Las Vegas, right? Yeah. That's a fun cause. This temporal to, like, I'll even know that my ability. Like, I'll wake up soon, you know? So I got to do something with this lucidity. Well, I have it. But that feeling is so weird. That's just like it's crazy. Almost every single night I'm feeling that feeling one way or another. It's like really apparent to me this like. And it's like I'm trying to remember I'm like oh what is this thing that I'm feeling like. And then if you can just like break through, you're like, this is a dream. You know, it's weird, but they're all at super vivid, super like a movie going on for sure. And I'll wake up and be like, man, it's crazy, go to sleep pre feeling it before I'm feeling it. It's just as real in the structure. There is structure, but it's not the same amount or type of structure that we got here. There's rules, but it's not as predictable. It's too much chaos. Yeah. It's just like a we live in the optimum balance. That's maybe that's like I guess potentially like in Genesis, like we're talking about making the light or the void of which we're making the stuff out of. That's like way too much void versus like the consciousness that has gone that is too much. But there's definitely like that, too much void energy. And then the subconscious because, yeah, you just be traversing from place to place. There's like parts of your dreams like acts one, two, three, four, but like, they're not sequenced together at all by any means most of the time. Sometimes you just, like, jump from place to place in your dreams. Like we were here doing this, and then I was over here doing this with these different people who live in this completely. Like like it doesn't make any sense. It's like logical sense as to how they can get there. Yeah. The thing that we use to create logic or like structure like this, this day to day thing that we got experiencing here, like that's like the the matrix that this one is living in. But then that one's living in a different matrix, but it has a matrix but is is different than ours. It's a different recipe. Yeah. I've got to God consciousness and organization and structure and masculine energy versus the chaotic void potential energy a feminine so different different in or maybe an inverse of the but oh that's a part of life. Yeah. And gods are gone and that when we're beginning of that because even you know and just the incomprehensible. Yeah. The unimaginable. The miraculous. Yeah. That thing is so multi dimensional and layered to it. Loves you. What does that mean? So complicated. But ultimately. Yeah, you can trust that things are okay or your story will be beautiful. Yeah. If you just made sacrifices, at least justify the sacrifices you have to make. It's so such a beautiful sentiment. Doesn't want to take that with them. Come on, man, no matter what you eat, that fruit or risotto up for the people. Yeah, yeah. Know the eat the good fruit, produce the good fruit. Absolutely. Love everyone and love yourself. Push forward. Keep going. Yeah. Of the never let that guy. That's it on yourself for you're in their life. You're in them. People love you. We'll see you a billion years.