A Stranger Tried To FIGHT ME At Schlitterbahn | The MJ38 Show #142

What would you do if a stranger suddenly stopped their car, got out, and challenged you in front of your family?

That's how this episode begins.

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What follows isn't just a story about a confrontation outside Schlitterbahn—it's a conversation about composure, masculinity, fatherhood, aggression, self-control, Jordan Peterson, Christianity, psychology, and the hidden battle between chaos and order.

We explore why staying calm can be harder than fighting, whether control is really an illusion, how purpose gives suffering meaning, and what it looks like to lead with conviction instead of emotion.

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• Schlitterbahn confrontation
• Masculinity & restraint
• Jordan Peterson philosophy
• Christianity & purpose
• Parenting & leadership
• Chaos vs order
• Psychology
• Self-improvement
• Anxiety & control
• Meaning in modern life

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SPEAKER_07 0:11

Welcome in MJ38 Show 142. Part 2, part one, fully on Patreon. But we're jumping into Schlitterbahn talk. Great time. Coolest, funnest, fun, funnest time in Texas. Yes. Come play. Schlitterbahn. We're leaving this place. And we're just walking out of the out of the out of the park, going back to the car, carrying the cooler. Day's done. Been there. Six hours or so. It's been a day.

SPEAKER_06 0:47

It's been a day for this minute. It's been a day. Good time.

SPEAKER_07 0:50

Torrent River. Great time. Body's probably tired. Yeah, we're about to just head on home. A little Bernie Sanders. It's alright. A little Larry the Lobster. It's okay. Don't worry about it. But then some guys like pulling, or like we're leaving like right in front of the front gate entrance. Like we literally just walked out and like on the street right there. And like there was like a you could just hear the sound of a car like kind of taking a corner, like a little hard, or like just like kind of ripping in the engine, or it's the uh frequency or the sound of acceleration. And I was like, he was, I don't know. I'm trying to quantify. He was probably going like 4550, like right there on that road. Outside of Schlitterbond?

SPEAKER_11 1:40

Yeah. It's just like a small street. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a neighborhood.

SPEAKER_13 1:44

And I was literally just like, whoa, buddy. More or less like that with that inflection.

SPEAKER_07 1:51

But at like a kind of like a seven to eight volume, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 1:55

Hold on. Hold on. Oh, you're in your car. You on foot. I'm on foot. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:00

Wheeling the wheel in the cooler. He's in the cool with a fam.

SPEAKER_11 2:03

He's in a car?

SPEAKER_07 2:04

Yes, like a SUV, like a black SUV.

SPEAKER_11 2:08

Is his windows down?

SPEAKER_07 2:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 2:10

Okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_07 2:13

All of them.

SPEAKER_12 2:14

Can you drop the dialogue again?

SPEAKER_07 2:17

I think what I said? Yeah. I just said, whoa, buddy.

SPEAKER_06 2:25

For real. Nice. For real.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Nice.

SPEAKER_06 2:28

And then he stops. Oh shit. And then he gets out. Oh shit. And then he comes above me. Yes. Oh my god. He's probably like in his mid to late 40s, or there's like aging terribly mid to late 30s.

SPEAKER_07 2:39

Somewhere in that ballpark. But either way, just a little older than you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:45

Windows were down. He was smoking a cigarette. There's like three boys in the car who like probably range in age of like 8 to 12-ish.

SPEAKER_06 2:55

And he's like, he's like, yo, what the fuck? What's up? And I was like, going a little fast, no? And he's like, are you a fucking cop, man? And I was like, no, no, sir. He's like, well, fuck you, bro. And he was smoking a cigarette in hand and wearing uh a shirt that had like a big pot leaf on it. I was like, going a little fast, no? New cop, no. And then uh told me to go fuck myself, you know, whatever, this and that. More more or less that. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, God bless you, man.

SPEAKER_11 3:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:34

And he's like, you don't fucking know me. And then he called me the N-word, of course. I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_12 3:42

Nice. I'm just kidding, I was just in the joke.

SPEAKER_13 3:46

Or I guess use the N-word. Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 3:48

Yeah, what he's called, like I was like, okay. With a hard RRA. No. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Like, okay, man. God bless you.

SPEAKER_10 3:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

But just the extended on business.

SPEAKER_07 4:03

Like, what I felt like bad. Or like in some in some sense, some degree, you know what I'm saying? And he proceeded to like speed off.

unknown 4:12

I was like, ah man.

SPEAKER_11 4:15

That's crazy, bro. That's insane. So he did he just hollered at you. And then much lit a bunch of it. But he just hollered. Like nothing, no physical altercation at all. No. He didn't want to take it there.

SPEAKER_07 4:33

My hat goes off too. Round of applause for Justin and I. A lot of a almost like just like a jokingly wall, buddy.

SPEAKER_11 4:40

Yeah. Were there any other details of this uh situation that stood out to you as you were digesting this film yourself?

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Not right.

SPEAKER_07 4:53

Like uh Yeah, I don't know, just like the embodiment of like chaotic energy, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 5:05

Yeah, this guy was whip around the corner.

SPEAKER_07 5:07

You hear like Schlitty Bond, something.

SPEAKER_11 5:10

You hear some kind of and you look audible enough noise to make everybody go, What? And you just it was like subconsciously, or you decide I'm gonna you're just like, whoa, buddy.

SPEAKER_12 5:23

Whoa, buddy.

SPEAKER_13 5:26

Slow down, guy. Whoa.

SPEAKER_12 5:29

Were you like joking at all? Like almost like for the comedian. To a degree, yes.

SPEAKER_07 5:33

Jokingly putting the the the joker-esque mask the truth I was trying to present.

SPEAKER_12 5:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 5:38

It's like slow down, bro. Like, there's literally like people and kids walking around here, you know what I'm saying? It's like truthfully, you know. Yeah, he wasn't going crazy crazy, but you know.

SPEAKER_11 5:53

No, no, no. I would have said I might have said the same thing, especially if you were chilling. Did you have any goridas at the bond?

SPEAKER_07 6:00

No.

SPEAKER_11 6:01

Nothing.

SPEAKER_10 6:02

No, man.

SPEAKER_11 6:02

Driving with the family is respectable. But still just cooked off the day, you know? Day. Having fun with the kids. And the other thing is you have kids with you, so when you see someone driving like reckless, super recklessly.

SPEAKER_13 6:16

Whoa, buddy. Whoa, buddy. Calm down. It's a family affair. We'll get all these families.

SPEAKER_11 6:24

You know?

SPEAKER_00 6:25

No reason for this.

SPEAKER_11 6:29

But then this guy pulls over his car in the middle of the road, does he just leave it in the middle of the road? Yeah, he just snaps. In the middle of the road. Yeah. Throws it in a park. When it gets out, does he leave the car door open or does he close it? I think it's I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 6:47

I want to say it's open, maybe?

SPEAKER_11 6:48

Dude, he pulled up on you for real. That's crazy, bro. So in this moment, do you have any like do you get nervous? I mean, like butterflies? No. Okay. Not at all. Wow. Not at all. It's like I'm a little bit afraid of how little I felt in that moment. Dude, so I see Vance. Nice. Welcome to the spirit of Yeshua. Yeah, dude. And post film is you had the opportunity to be like, bro, what is going on, man? Are you okay? You know what I mean? Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. It's like there's kids in the corner, man. I got kids. I'm like, this feels like something's not okay. They only ask you, are like, are you the cops? It's like, are you asking me if I'm okay because you want to take me to jail for it? That's almost a quantifying question. It's like, why are you trying to tell me what to do? What are you the authority? But then you're like, no, dude, like I'm a Christian. They're like, I love you. What? Why are you doing that? Are you okay? This is crazy. Are you okay? You know? Do you want to pray right now? What's going on, dude? But it's hard to be like conscious of that when someone's pulling up on you in traffic, bro. Hopped out the whip with the door ajar, dog. Like, what? Come on now. And then, yeah, and you're just like standing in the pocket. Be ready to bless him, you know? But it's crazy behavior. You don't know, he might have shot you, dog. Like, you know, for the whoa buddy. Yeah, dude, for a woe buddy? You kidding me? He might have made you run it, dude, in front of the Schlitterbahn, yo. Whoa buddy. That's not good. But you're right. He's got and then further validated with the woe buddy when he had the kids in the car.

SPEAKER_07 8:39

Yeah, I was like, whoa, this is a crazy situation. Man.

SPEAKER_11 8:45

Where's the freaking where's the mall cops that work at Schlitterbahn, bro? I seen y'all out there, bro. Worried about me sneaking in a little bit of tequila. You should be worried about woe buddy over here, whipping on the corner. Families and stuff. My guy Justin's like standing in the pocket. No nerves at all. Dude, that had to be such a cool moment for like the kids to see you just like stand on business. What did they what did the family say afterwards?

SPEAKER_07 9:14

I was like, yeah, hurry. I feel bad for those kids, but I think I mentioned I guess sitting in the pocket, or like the uh the God bless you, strength is like for real. But keep it a cool hand, I guess is what I mentioned.

SPEAKER_10 9:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 9:36

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Now I'm digesting it more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 9:45

And I still don't know what I meant. Or like like there was truth in it for your like I put a jest or disguise on it for sure.

SPEAKER_11 9:50

That's the thing.

SPEAKER_07 9:51

It's a wool body.

SPEAKER_11 9:52

Come on. Yeah. Come on, man. Yeah, we started breaking it down, breaking it down. I feel like it comes from a place. I'm with you, dude. That's crazy. That's crazy as hell, bro. Craziness. Craziness of the at the slits. Salute to you, bro, for handling it the way you did. If I have my baby and someone pulled up on me, you know, like, what are you doing? Like holding my daughter, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like there's nothing you can do but enter that place of like standing on truth and being cool, like non-aggressive, but also just like honest. And then also like trying to quantify the situation. Like, bro, it's like we're at Schlutterbund. And like, I'm not trying to be judgmental at all, like your kids are here too, you know. So I'm just gonna say there's like kids here, you know. But I don't even defend you, man. Like in a personal way at all, you know?

SPEAKER_07 10:39

Mm-hmm. Just objectively.

SPEAKER_11 10:43

Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Why not? You don't want to save kids? What's wrong with that? Yeah, man. And this is kind of wild. Like are you okay? You know? It sucks because it's like that's the that's the moment where if you're gonna like turn the table in the conversation, you know. And if they're just gonna not let you turn the table, then he might just punch you. If you ask him, you know, are you okay? Or Mike, just amp up the aggressiveness level rather than allow you to be like, let's defuse this, you know what I'm saying? But you can't help what everybody does, mate. You can't help what everybody does, man. But I can tell you adding aggression isn't good for sure. What is stay cool?

SPEAKER_07 11:31

Not gonna help. Let's get on with our stories, bro.

SPEAKER_11 11:37

It's powerful to not do that. It's powerful to stay stable. It's powerful to be like Joe Burrow, you know, keep the BPM low.

SPEAKER_07 11:48

We're good, bro.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

We're good. Everybody good, though.

SPEAKER_07 11:51

Like, what's up, man? Like, what come on now.

SPEAKER_11 11:57

Come on now. Damn, bro. That's real life, man. That's crazy, bro. That's that's yeah.

SPEAKER_07 12:04

End of the slitty bond trip. I was like, man, that guy's gonna be on my podcast tomorrow. Crazy story though. Just a weird story, you know.

SPEAKER_11 12:17

Nothing ever happened like that when I was leaving. That's not Shudderbank core for sure. No, no problem.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

No, dude.

SPEAKER_11 12:25

That's a new that's a new demon. Runescape wild encounter. Also, like, what are the odds you left within the five-minute span that you left? Five minutes earlier, five minutes after, hold the shutterban. Just happened to be whipping around the corner in front of you.

SPEAKER_07 12:37

Just for like a 20-15 second span, you know what I'm saying? It's like action.

SPEAKER_11 12:44

With the whoa, buddy. Whoa. And then he hit you with the press Y in GTA.

SPEAKER_12 12:52

Got out of the car. What's up? What's up?

SPEAKER_11 12:58

Yo, that's crazy, bro. Oh my gosh, dude.

SPEAKER_07 13:02

The kids in the car.

SPEAKER_11 13:03

That's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_10 13:12

What's a responsible thing for you to do?

SPEAKER_11 13:14

The most responsible thing.

SPEAKER_07 13:22

You're pretty close.

SPEAKER_11 13:23

I think you got an A.

SPEAKER_07 13:24

Yeah, call the cops. No. No. Alright, it's too much. Come on, he's just you know. Moving through.

SPEAKER_11 13:32

No, dude, that guy's tweaking, bro. That's not do you think he was on drugs? Or drunk? Was there any because that we a little drunk? Yeah, that behavior's out of pocket. Was there any substances involved, you think, getting him out of pocket?

SPEAKER_07 13:48

I have no idea. He was holding a cigarette for sure. But beyond that, I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 13:55

Have you noticed that cigarettes are just attached to trashy people? Like you see way more trashy people smoking cigarettes than you see like doctors and lawyers.

SPEAKER_07 14:04

Classy people.

SPEAKER_11 14:08

These are cigars. These are jokes. I'm doing comedy. I'm doing way more comedy now. But this is something I've noticed. It's like you just don't, it's just like a super trope. A lot of movies, a lot of TV shows. They want to portray someone trashing. They'll put a cigarette in their hands. Classic, bro.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Classic.

SPEAKER_11 14:27

I'm not saying that was trashing. And I smoked too, so I'm not saying, but it's just crazy. Is he pointing and pointing with a cigarette at you?

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Is he giving you the no, no, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_11 14:42

That's cigarette core, so I thought maybe.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Pointing with the ciggy.

SPEAKER_05 14:49

But uh yeah, way to handle that well, dude.

SPEAKER_11 14:54

Way to handle it like a role model for your kids, you know? It's weird when you have kids because everything kind of transitions. There's a testosterone response inside of you to just like knock the guy out, dog. You know what I mean? Like there's a part of me that's an MMA fighter. And I keep that guy at bay, you know what I mean? Like, literally I've been punched in the face before, and I'm still like not. There's like the urge to be aggressive, but then it's not like what you should do. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So you didn't do that, which is good. You didn't go full MMA mode like you could have.

SPEAKER_07 15:31

Yeah, what if I was like a professional boxer dog?

SPEAKER_11 15:35

You know what I'm saying? That's like a point of contact. Have you seen that clip where uh the dude, I don't know these guys because I don't know the streamers, but he steps up to this MMA guy and he's like, You better stop talking shit or I'll put you on another clip. And then the dude's like, What did you say to me? And then like kind of like turns and faces him, and the guy like says some shit like he'll fuck him up or something like that. And then uh like I guess the door is here, and this girl's trying to get him to leave, and this this clip's like super vile, people know what I'm talking about. So then he's like, maybe gonna cross to leave, but he like crosses and like presses into his face a little bit, and then like for the MMA guy, it's like there's like a point of contact, a point of intention, a point where it's like I can defend myself now, and he like has a drink and then like drops the drink and just bah and catches the catches the drink with his other hand and like claps the dude paws, destroys him dog, like out, bro. Clean shot, bro. And then it's like a classic example. Everybody's saying, like, don't, don't these guys like train, you know what I'm saying? Like leveled this kid, you know. So there's a point where if this guy like assaults you or get in your face, or like I guess like battery is like where like if you hit someone, that's battery, but assault is like the intention to harm, I think it's something along those lines. People get like assault and battery, you know. So it's like assault can happen at the point where it's like um and this would be, I guess, in a court of law, right? Like if 12 people could decide that you reasonably felt like you needed to defend yourself, even if they didn't hit you, he still assaulted you, you know. But then if he would have like pulled out of the car, talked a bunch of shit to you, threatened you, and then hit you in the face, that would have been like assault and battery. I think is like how it was explained to me. Right. So when does assault happen? Is the question though, because then you can defend yourself and knock this dude clean out. But then are you being a role model for your kids? That's the point I'm getting to.

SPEAKER_05 17:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 17:32

I've heard some parents say that they tell their kids if someone's messing with them, just deck them. Clean cold deck them, get them off you. Pick on someone else, dog.

SPEAKER_13 17:44

Clock them.

SPEAKER_11 17:45

Is that good parental advice?

SPEAKER_07 17:49

I guess it depends on the context. It depends on the context.

SPEAKER_10 17:54

That's fair, that's fair.

SPEAKER_11 17:58

Dude, that's one of the best answers to a question I've ever heard. Well done. That was good. Yeah, yeah, that was phenomenal. It's like there is no right or wrong, bro. I mean, that's what the yogis say, but what they're pointing to is like it depends on the context, you know? It's a good I think there is right or wrong when we can get there, but we're gonna get there based on the context. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But yeah, like for instance, when my kid was getting hit at school, I didn't want to tell her to go, like, slap the baby back, you know. Like, there's a point where I actually took that opportunity to there was two dude, follow up on that story. Slap the baby. No, but I had told you about that third time, right? Well, now Demi's kind of like rotating between classes. Okay. So, like, I think I told a story on the pod where I'm dry, I drop my baby off of daycare, and this kid runs up and slaps her, and I'm like, yo, what the fuck? And then this happens two days in a row, and the third day they move her classes, but then now she's rotating between classes, sometimes depending on the day or how many kids are there. Cause she's right on the brink of the age groups, and then um, so then I'm I'm there at like uh daycare window closes at 9 a.m. So I'm there at like 8.59, and then someone comes in behind me, and it's the dad of the baby that is hitting my kid, and we're taking them to the same room together. Yeah. So the first time it happens, dude, the first time it happens, like I don't really want that smoke, to be honest with you. And this guy's like, he's like 6'3, 6'4, he looks like he works out. Um, I'm definitely not rolling an intimidation roll on this guy, which is fine. Like, I don't really want to do that anyways, but like it would help be helpful if I could just be like, uh, hey, this is happening, can we stop? But this guy might be this guy has the opportunity to be like, yeah, right, dog. Like, he just looks like he can hit me with one of those. Or like, you know, just give me more problems than than workload. But then, so but then, anyways, that's like my anxiety or whatever. And then I don't really deal with it the first day. I just drop her off, he drops off his kid, we leave.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

And I'm driving him away. Keep it moving, moving.

SPEAKER_11 20:06

I'm driving away, and I'm like, what are the odds that you and your wife tell me that the bare minimum you could do is talk to the parent of the other kid at dinner, like a couple nights previous, and then I get this opportunity, and then what? Like, I kind of like have fight or flight, and then I look at the opportunity and I'm like, yeah, I don't really want to like dive into this. I'm not sure if it's like worth it or what the deal is. And I'm like, well, it's definitely worth it if this kid is like harming Demi. So then the next day, the same thing happens, same exact scenario. And I'm like, okay, well, there's no way, like, I can do like nothing right now, you know? And then I to then I just decide in the moment, I take Demi, then I turn her around, and I'm like, um, because Demi also got sad when I left her there the day before. She starts getting like tear ya. I did not like excited to play, which is not what I'm looking for when I drop her off, you know.

SPEAKER_07 20:55

Whenever y'all dropped him off at the same time, then was there signs of a swing, an attempt?

SPEAKER_11 21:00

No.

SPEAKER_07 21:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 21:03

And the and the dad's like, he's I've seen him be like a sweet dad before. Like he's in this like sweet energy, you know. So then he's like talking to his baby, and the baby's like excited to see Demi, which is like, I'm like, oh, you know, great, of course. And then the dad's like, oh, is this your friend? Is that your friend right there? And then the baby is like, ha ha. And then Demi like crosses shoulders and then gets like kind of sad because I don't know if it's because of him or because she's at daycare, and it's like all happening right then. It's usually when she gets that, anyways. It felt more like a kid was like, hi, and she was like, Oh, I have to be at daycare, I have to do that whole thing. But then I'm also like, is it because she knows that kid hits her? I don't know. So then the next day, next day, I'm dropping her off.

SPEAKER_07 21:50

Dropping her off.

SPEAKER_11 21:51

This kid's this guy's behind me again, and then I put Demi over the thing, drop her off, and then I just stand there. Sorry, I'm telling you. One step out of where it happens twice now. When we're in line, I take Demi and I turn her around. This is where I'm like being a good dad, I think. And then I'm like, Demi, do you want to say hi to Angel? And then Demi kind of like looks at me and I'm like, it's okay. Like, you can tell Angel hi. Let's say hi, Angel. And then Demi's like, hi, and says hi to him. And then the baby's like lights up and is like, hi, hi, and like gets real happy. And then the dad's like, oh, like, you know, the baby's being cute, being sweet, whatever. Yeah. And then cute babies. Yep. I'm like, okay, cool. Good interaction. And then I turn it around and I'm like, I love you. Yeah, have a good day. It's okay. And then put her down. And I stand there. And then he puts his baby down. And then they don't really engage with each other. And then they move different ways. And then I think that this kid goes and pushes another kid. At least tries to as soon as he gets there. And then the dad's like, hey, angel, play nice. Play nice. Stop. Okay? And then at that point, I'm like, I don't really think I need to talk to this guy about the baby pushing Demi because it's like. I think it was on display right there that this baby's obviously physical with the other kids. And he's trying to do something about it. And I if it could have been just Demi saying hi to this kid, took Demi off of this kid's radar as far as like who he wanted to torment that day. If you want to think about it, like Jordan Peterson. And how much can I know when Demi's biting kids, I can't do much about it other than sell her soft touches. Like I felt the same as him. Like I'm in the same boat as you, you know. So I just was like, you know. We turned and we walked out at the same time, and I was like, take care of it, and just like left it at that. I felt like it was relatively polished. That's nice. But I had to have the energy of like, we need to do something about this, you know. I can't not do anything about this. And then same thing happened at the splash pad. These kids were stealing Demi's toys the other day, and then I was like, let's go talk to them. And then we went and we talked to them and said hi to them. Asked for her pill back and they gave it back to her. I'll try and teach her like when this stuff happens, you can like say hi to the hi to people and then engage and then maybe like fix the thing that's happening to you, you know, rather than just like being afraid of it.

SPEAKER_05 24:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Bravo.

SPEAKER_11 24:27

That's like about one good film. Thanks for that one good film moment. Actually, let me share it with you. But I I figured out a way to deal with that, I think. For the better for her. It's better to like just go say hi to the problem. Trying to introduce her to that. It's like this. Yeah, face the dragon. Yeah, that's what it was. Face the dragon kid. I'm like, there he is. Like, you need to say hi.

SPEAKER_07 24:48

Go do it. Go do the thing that you're afraid to do right now.

SPEAKER_11 24:51

And she did it. That was sick. That was sick. And the baby was happy to see her. Like, oh my god, she's saying hi to me. That was his energy, you know.

SPEAKER_07 25:02

She wants to be noticed, wants to be played with, wants to be interacted with.

SPEAKER_11 25:05

Probably right. I don't know. Is that like every bully's validating?

SPEAKER_07 25:13

I don't know. Jealousy, envy. It's also just a baby. Babies is being babies, man. Babies are aggressive. Two-year-olds are aggressive.

SPEAKER_11 25:27

Yeah, Jordan Peterson talks about two-year-olds are like, you know.

SPEAKER_07 25:29

Aggressive little creatures.

SPEAKER_11 25:30

Unreasonable. Humans at their worst.

SPEAKER_07 25:35

At their behaviorally worst. Don't want tantrums. But no, she's the most adorable thing in the world. Don't want tantrums.

SPEAKER_11 25:42

Tantrums. She's Yeah. The car's a thing, bro.

SPEAKER_07 25:48

Driving in the car?

SPEAKER_11 25:49

Well, it's just like getting her to agree to get into the car seat. I have like a 70% success rate. 30% of the time, she's not down. And she's agile and like really good at leveraging her weight. She'll like arch her back, drive her heels into the seat, and then she's got shoulder control too. So you try to take one of her legs away, she just rolls to the other side, pulls momentum. The other day, I I kid you not. That was kind of a joke, but and she was good at it. But the other day, for real, she decided she didn't want to get in there. She had a tight spin, got all the way out of the car seat, and was standing like in the middle section, like half, like, what are you gonna do about that? And the other half was like, Where am I going now? Like about the scramble. Can I make it to the front seat?

SPEAKER_07 26:32

Under the territory.

SPEAKER_10 26:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 26:35

Dang, hitting tight spins. She's just out of the car seat. Coming off the edge block. For real, dude. She got she got her hip on the edge of the seat and just like turned out. And it's funny when she's running around here, she's she does have a capacity to like she'll be running at the chair and she'll be like ha ha ha ha ha. And then she'll plant and then like clear the chair and keep running. But for the last second, I'm like, yo, you're about to smack this chair. She's like, good, good, nope, whoop, good.

SPEAKER_07 27:01

It's funny. Getting control. Kids. Have a kid.

SPEAKER_11 27:08

She's a cute little baby. I think that's part of the thing Jordan Peterson would say, too. They're so adorable because it's really hard to deal with the tantrum side. But luckily, Demi's tantrums aren't as bad. She's also not two yet, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 27:25

Yeah. Babies are just aggressive, you know.

SPEAKER_11 27:28

Here's parent core. People would be like, oh yeah, yeah, everyone says terrible twos. Actually, the threes are worse. No one says that, but the threes are worse. It's like, you're like, oh man. Oh, great. Sounds awesome. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Have that to look forward to. But no, that's the best. What were you gonna say?

SPEAKER_07 27:50

Nothing's just raising kids. Thinking about that more and more. It's tight. Yeah, it's like I enjoy going to like the volleyball practice and like the volleyball games and stuff, you know what I'm saying? It's like an enjoyable second movie or sequel. They really invested it. Nice. Our DNA part two is going. It's a good story. Nice.

SPEAKER_11 28:17

I was thinking about that because I was thinking about my dad going to all my games. And I was like, that's like a time commitment, you know. It's not that bad, like Friday nights to have to go to a varsity football game. It's like, you know, single dad for a while. Definitely wasn't going out on Friday night. But I think he liked it, but I was appreciating the fact that then he went to all the basketball games that were home games. And then he was the chaplain for varsity my junior year, so he went to all the away games too, which is cool. Um, but it was cool, it was a nice time investment. I was just appreciating that. He's the guy impressed the yeah, I love him. It's hard. I was thinking about him too because I wanted him to uh I really wanted to move down here. Shout out dad. I'll clip it and send it to you. Come to San Antonio, man. San Antonio's dope. He's uh he's ministering and pastoring and doing his thing and loving it and good at it, and has an awesome group of people that love him. But eventually he'll retire. I'm hoping he'll come over to San Antonio. Yeah, he is zero interest in moving, and I'm going to try to make him zero to one. Yeah. Because it's gonna take 100% to want to do it. Uh-huh. And that's just such a big ass to for anybody, for their parents. It's like, I remember being a kid being like, I need to go on this trip, and there's no way dad wants to let me go on the strip. Mm-hmm. I heard something cool. San Tony. Oh, if you just want to pivot, I could pivot with you. Well, what's up? I heard something cool about uh I think it was Jordan Peterson saying that children are cool because they help give you a new vision for life. They renew your vision for life. Because most of the time, by the time you're like 30, you're living through the memories of memories. So all of your contextualization for everything is based on you remembering a memory of your contextualization of it, but then the baby will be like contextualizing the world in front of you, and then that allows your vision to be in the space with something that has like a fresh vision, and then you get fresh vision too. And so um I think that's part of what I was talking about with the CERN, the CERN accelerator, and like people were saying that the days weren't like fresh anymore. I think it's because it's like your contextual contextualization of the smell of the air is based on a memory of a memory, it's not based on you like smelling the air. Then sometimes we get into a space where you're on vacation and all this new stuff is happening, and you smell the air, and it's like it's new, so it has novelty, so you're able to like contextual and like have fresh vision for it, you know. But we just lose that. It's uh everything is dulling itself over time because of entropy, because the way our brain works.

SPEAKER_07 30:59

Yeah. Yeah, having that story is it's awesome. When Demi's playing sports and stuff, it's gonna be great. Sick, dude. Sick, dude. Yeah, all the sports, like wishing my daughter was gonna play. Volleyball's dope. It's inside. So, like as a parent, you know, you know, out there in the rain or out there in the heat, yeah, out there in the cold, whatever. Indoors, nice. That's nice. Not a lot of running for her, particularly. Thanks. Homework sprint, quick movements, but still whatever, you know. And it's exciting, you know, saying volleyball's dope. I remember seeing that like in the 2008 Olympics. I was like, volleyball? It's pretty sick. It's sick, dude. It's kind of sick. It's dope.

SPEAKER_11 31:46

All the volleyball players out there.

SPEAKER_07 31:48

Yeah, seeing it at the Olympic level. Sometimes I was like, yeah, if I had a daughter, if I had a daughter, what sports would you want your daughter to play? Hoops, soccer.

SPEAKER_11 32:01

Soccer for sure. I'm 100% invested in. I just know Demi's playing soccer for sure. Football. Football. A beautiful game for a beautiful girl.

SPEAKER_07 32:09

A beautiful game.

SPEAKER_11 32:10

She's I don't know. I just have this intuition. I was thinking about it the other day because it was like I can I don't know how to tell my friends that I am so sure that she's a soccer player.

SPEAKER_07 32:18

Like, I felt like How do you know your baby's a soccer player?

SPEAKER_11 32:20

Uh since I was a like since she was a baby and I was holding her, the intuitive, inspired thoughts that came to me were me coaching her on a soccer field, and that became like a continuous daydream state when I like imagined her future when she was a baby. But like, I don't know if I conjured that, but also like I played soccer as a kid, so I have this contextualization of like a little kid playing soccer already, and I know like how to help her be really good for her age groups because like I went through it, and that's just like what plays out. Maybe because I don't know volleyball like that, so I don't like put her in that position, you know. But I do imagine like just doing all the all the drills with her at home, doing the speed ladder, have doing like 30 to 45 minutes of outdoors like footwork stuff, and then just like passing the ball around, shooting some shots for another 15-20 minutes. Like, that's all I ever wanted to do when I was a kid when I got home from school. So just like doing that with her, but giving her like a little bit more um targeted practice towards things that are actually applicable, and then just like also talking her through her thoughts, like just being there for her, like tell me about what you're thinking about when you're doing these things, and then just like hearing that. But then also sometimes when I feel like there's a bad frame or a better mental frame for her, it's been like, I think you should think about it like this. But like, this is how you know, find out who her role models are. This is how me and him think about it. I mean, obviously, it's a dated soccer player, but you know, you pull up the YouTube video of Cristiano Ronaldo and be like, listen, this is how he talks about a free kick right here, and then being able to show her little things like that, I think.

SPEAKER_07 33:43

She's gonna be like Mike Tyson.

SPEAKER_11 33:44

She's gonna be a monster.

SPEAKER_07 33:47

Which clip are you talking about? That's just like I think what he says in Joe Rogan or like his story that Joe's like referring to, where he's like taken under the wing of somebody who's just like showing them.

SPEAKER_12 33:55

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 33:56

You know, I thought you were showing the voice of the warrior.

SPEAKER_12 33:59

The clip that came into my head where it's like, I want to eat his children. Oh gosh. Like, don't show them that, don't show her that yet.

SPEAKER_11 34:05

Your time, good time. But yeah, that's what I'm trying.

SPEAKER_06 34:08

No, yeah, she's gonna be a beast.

SPEAKER_11 34:09

What's her what's her uh what's his what was his coach's name?

unknown 34:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 34:14

If I had multiple choice, I might be able to get into it.

SPEAKER_11 34:16

It's like uh uh when I listen to Joe, I have it for a couple months. Right. Anyways, we'll come back to it. Shout out, shout out that whole thing, Muhammad Ali, not Muhammad Mike Tyson and his coach, who is his dad or his adopted dad.

unknown 34:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 34:33

So yeah, I want to give Demi some of that noise. Get her get her in the position to be. And also if she's receptive to the show. It's all I was interested in as a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if she's into that, if not, we'll step into different worlds. But but sport, it's funny you asked me about sports specifically, because I think volleyball and soccer are up there for me.

SPEAKER_07 34:53

Like those those are it, you know.

SPEAKER_11 34:55

I'm sure she'll want to play other sports if she's like me. Yeah, she tried soccer.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

She tried soccer, but prefers volleyball. Naturally, pretty good at it. Volleyball's a fun sport, man. It's dope. It's fun. It's water volleyball shitty, bro. I'm telling you, dog.

SPEAKER_11 35:19

It's fun to dive. It's fun to sell out, kid.

SPEAKER_07 35:23

Oh my gosh. It's so fun. Save the day. That's the best thing you can do. We're all trying to save the day here.

SPEAKER_11 35:29

Who doesn't love a good dive? Who doesn't love a good save the day? Yeah. Dude, beach volleyball. Like, we're getting into a four-on-four scenario. I'm going nuts, bro. Going bonkers, kid. Like, there's quick twitch, right? So you're like, need to go. It's jumping and timing and body position. Yeah. Yeah, there's like a coordination dexterity stat that appears in a lot of good athletes, and some people don't always have that thing. But a volleyball in that split second, also, that's another thing. How how fast does your brain process? Like the Formula One drivers, their processing time, there's ways that they measure it, is like way better than football players or basketball players. Like, I think it was like a third better. Who is this? Formula One drivers. Oh, wow. That's like their one of their number one stats that they beat all the other athletes in is reaction time. And then some people just naturally have a better reaction time if your brain can like get into the the quicker pace. That's such it's a weird thing, you know? Like um sometimes I'm there, sometimes I'm not. But a good example the other day, I was freaking locked in on defense, and this dude knew I was locking, locking his butt up, and then he's on the baseline, and I'm face guarding him, and he's looking at the guy who's checking the ball, and then he tries to hit me with the huh, huh huh. And dude, I'm just so right there. I'm like, like for all three cuts. And I do it so fast I feel my hair whip back and forth where I'm just like and then I don't go, like he's like faking all of them, and I just stayed sturdy, like cover, cover, cover, you're faking. And then he was like, Oh shit, and like he broke character. He's just like, Okay, yeah, I'm cooked. But that was like to be in that fast of a it was it was like we were dancing with each other. It's like but it's hard to get there, it doesn't happen, you don't wake up there, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_07 37:14

But these Formula One drivers are on like going like 180 miles an hour, traveling faster, you know, yeah, experiencing time differently. That's the thing, it's an interstellar effect, you know.

SPEAKER_11 37:25

If you you feel me, it gets funky for me because it's like different basketball games play at different speeds, and then the brain state like has to be different for the different things, you know. Like sometimes it's like I literally feel myself processing like five things at once. I'm like and that's what I do with my eyes, is like when I'm on that stage, sometimes I just like scan, I scan, and then I pick up like five different and I'm holding all of them, and like also they're all different threats. So, like if this guy cuts, I need to like go to help side, you know what I mean? But then if it gets the wide swing, then I have to like fly and close out. So I'm like watching a bunch of different things at once, but I feel like a weird alien when I'm doing it, like in a predator mode.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

It's like this is the more the matrix.

SPEAKER_11 38:06

But that's one thing I noticed is that there's games that are like playing at a very fast pace, fast pace, and that makes my brain have to process faster, which is like almost the same thing as that interstellar effect. Same thing with some nights at work, some nights are like going ham, and you gotta be like nails, bro. Ten things up, ten things down, and they're all perfect. I mean, dude. You know what I mean? Just hitting it, executing, executing, and then time is flying by when you're in that state. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 38:43

It's going, it's fleeting, it's going by quick. Yeah, it also be grueling and grating and taking forever. Dead. You need allegation, you know what I'm saying? You need some monsters to fight, you need some dragons to slay.

SPEAKER_11 39:00

Some of it's yeah.

SPEAKER_07 39:01

Yeah, that'll results in a worthwhile expenditure of time slaying dragons.

SPEAKER_11 39:09

That's facts. Some of it's just context. You can change your context, you can change your mental frame that you're in. You can't. You can't. Sometimes it's hard to do it in the now.

SPEAKER_07 39:18

Yeah, just aim it up, aiming up, and walking there, aiming up and walking there. That's all there is to do.

SPEAKER_11 39:27

Dude, the spirit of Jordan Paris taking over me right now.

SPEAKER_07 39:31

JVP is my guy, bro.

SPEAKER_11 39:33

Because it's Jesus is amazing. Yes. First and foremost. Foremostly. One of the many yeah, more than foremost, please go off on Jesus if you want to go in. Oh, that's it. Oh, yeah. Quite simply. One of the many way amazing things that just uh came to me is that because well, it gives you context for what we're doing here, right? It gives you context for your life, it gives you context for what's going on in your now, and then with that, you need to make a plan to try to find your purpose. That's not exactly explicit in the Bible, but there's also free will involved, so it's like almost like what where does your heart go? Where where do you what would be beautiful to you is subjective, and so finding that beauty, you know, and pursuing that through your story isn't explicit in the Bible, it's not, but it gives you a framework for what's going on as a whole. Jesus died for your sins, but he has to come back because this is this world more more or less belongs to the devil. It's broken, it's broken, sin filled. Jesus won't rule here on earth until he comes back and and claims the earth and then the saved souls go to heaven. It gets convoluted with people that we love who aren't saved and go to hell and stuff like that. And this feeling of like Jesus being amazing. I get it. I do. I think when you meet Jesus, you'll like Jesus. I don't think anybody who meets Jesus won't doesn't want to be a Christian. And especially if after he dubs on the after he comes back and saves the day. Ws in the chat. It's gonna be real apparent that he's the savior we've been waiting for. And uh there's your context, there's your life. It's an apocalyptic scenario, and you should be trying to do your best, give your best to God and to Jesus. There's your context. And like every day happens, but you can get lost in your sauce if you don't have that context. You can be like riding the ups and downs of oh, it's slow today, or it's dead today, or I'm tired, or had a lot going on this weekend, so I didn't get a lot of sleep, so I'm feeling like meh, hump day. Big old fat meh. I need some frappuccino on a hump day. Thank god it's Friday, I need a drink right now, you know, and get stuck on that sheesh, bro. Then it gets crazy because the systems and the rhythms allow you to access different time dilations and different perspectives, find different pockets of your day to do different things, literally give you more time, give you more rest. But it's hard to get there without the context, and then Jesus gives you the framework for that all the time. So you can't just get up and have a relationship with Jesus. Remember that you're on some kind of mission or some kind of purpose, or trying to just make them the right choices within your narrative because you're not even building your narrative that's coming to you. Make the right choices within your narrative, things can get better.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_11 42:38

That's sweet grace. That's like sweet grace.

SPEAKER_07 42:42

We see a small portion of what's going on here. Like this much, bro. We see a small portion of what's going on here on every level, dah.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 42:56

Dude, yeah, been listening to him, coming back out, love him, dropping some pods, dropping some, I guess, episodes of some lectures that he's done on his tour. He's the men. He's just the men. I can listen to him dissect Exodus and Genesis a hundred times. I was here for it. He's the one that's dying.

SPEAKER_11 43:20

Like a degree from UT would be so much more useful. Useful for my life, but much more interested in like if I could get the equivalent of a degree at Jordan Peterson Academy, so much more interested. JBP. You're interfacing with the world all the time. All the time. Even when you sleep in.

SPEAKER_07 43:48

The dreams are some dreams are deeper than you can. You don't get it. You just don't get it. Okay. You're right. I don't, it's hard to get your. We don't. We don't get it. Of this stuff. No, we like to. We do. We want to. We love it. Science is built on it. We're here for it. Live and die by that. Believe in that. That we get it.

SPEAKER_10 44:11

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 44:15

Although we can figure it out.

SPEAKER_11 44:18

That's all politics. We can figure it out.

SPEAKER_13 44:21

Come on. We got this. We can figure it out. Come on, we'll be okay. All right.

SPEAKER_10 44:28

We got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 44:37

Oh, I lost it.

SPEAKER_11 44:42

Science is predicated on we get it, but you don't get it.

SPEAKER_07 44:47

We get it, but we don't get it. That's deeper than we can understand. Yeah. This whole thing. But we do like to know what things are, put labels on things and develop medicines and trying to do legitimate good with what we are trying to find out is the objective truth of what's going on here. Through research and agreed upon peer review analysis.

SPEAKER_11 45:18

We like we like predictability. We're trying to plan optimal outcomes.

SPEAKER_07 45:22

We need to build solid foundations. Yeah. Figure out how to make things good for everybody. Make houses, sell houses. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_08 45:32

You don't want to believe you. Be a farmer. Thanks for all the farmers. Shout out farmers. Shout out to the farmers. Give it up.

SPEAKER_07 45:42

Keeping our like necessary food thing going on here, too.

SPEAKER_11 45:48

I don't know for sure. I think it's gone out of hand with how much farmland the government. Oh yeah. No. I think like the government farmers. Huh? Someone out of Louisville, Texas, blowing up my podcast. Louisville. Kentucky? It says Louisville, Texas, and it's Louisville. It's not Louisville. It's like a slugger. It's like L-A-E-W-I-S. Louisville? Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_07 46:22

What?

SPEAKER_06 46:23

What is that?

SPEAKER_11 46:24

I don't know. Is it fake? I think so. It's 214, which is like Dallas, right? I have no idea. It is. Okay. 214 is Dallas.

SPEAKER_07 46:31

What's up?

SPEAKER_11 46:32

Most fake numbers are coming in on like an 886, you know. But you never know. I'm hoping that.

SPEAKER_07 46:38

What are you doing? What do you want? What do you want? Scamming me? Try to scam me? Trying to my voice? We gotta podcast out, so that's not very hard to do.

SPEAKER_10 46:48

If they're listening to this pod right now, trying to scam me?

SPEAKER_11 46:50

We're cooked. Yeah, my dad has a full AI bot of me saying whatever. That's nuts.

SPEAKER_07 46:56

That's powerful. Okay. It's powerful. Okay. It's kind of scary.

SPEAKER_11 47:00

I saw a marketing agency basically offering to like get someone's voice AI botted up, and then they could get like their likeness botted up, and then they can just like make content of them like saying stuff. But they with like AI voice tools and stuff like that. And I'm like, yo, okay. Well, um, it just gets kind of crazy after a while. And I think that those ad agencies are outsourcing to like, you know, places where they do I've heard of places in Indonesia where they're they'll do stuff very cheap. Put together videos for you. Like that. But I don't know, you know. I don't know how they're I don't know how they're scaling, I guess what I'm saying. Pivot back. Damn, we were on a we were on a thread and then Louisville came in trying to knock me off my slugger.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_11 47:51

We were on a thread, bro. You don't get it, was how it originated. Yeah, you don't get it. Oh, I got something. Okay. So it's like my feeling with control, like, I feel like control is an illusion. That's like the pro most that's the highest order thought I have about it. It's trying to live your life to seek control is impossible. Seeking control actually gives you less control. So it's like you have to like be a zend out place where it's like, you know, I'm doing my best to fight the chaos off at all times, and that usually creates a natural buffer that allows me to be protected. And then if I have to like use a lifeline, I have some relative like help that I could if I needed to. Other than that, I'm hoping for predictability, hoping for routine and things to become easier because you're becoming like more adapted to your situation and stuff like that. And then because you're more adapted, that gives you more space to like make bigger plays and stuff like that. So that's kind of I think how I am with control. But then I was watching a movie that reminded me that like the feeling of when my spleen ruptured and I had to go to the hospital, and I had like a lot of anxiety during that time or after that time. Even when I was like living with my mom for maybe a week or two afterwards, there was this there was this like burning desire to go back to San Marcus and get back into our house and to try to get back to class and to get back into the gym and start working out again. Really the gym part, because I was like, my body was super messed up from just the surgery and not eating and stuff like that. And like that feeling was overwhelming for sure, almost like possessing me. And it made me feel like uh I was also just tripping, I was having really bad anxiety at the time. Then I was taking like Xanax if I was having really bad anxiety, but it's like everyone has anxiety all the time, but this one manifested like in a way that I thought was actually tangible, which was like uh I would just be like tripping, like trying to think of a good example. It happened maybe like two or three times with my parents where I felt like maybe I wanted to go back to San Marcus, and they were like, you know, you need to uh you need to recover, like you're not okay, you know, and you're really susceptible to infection right now. And um, like I just want to like make sure you're good and being able to like if you're not okay take you to the hospital and know like quickly and right away and stuff like that, and trying to reintegrate to your into your life right now isn't like a good uh like a good choice, but then I would be like, you know, just tripping, like getting like aggressive or upset with them or questioning their motives, or not just being like, these people care about me, you know. And um then I would be like they would be like talking, trying to talk me down for being like aggressive and upset, and then I would get to a point where I would be like asked, like I would circle all the way around and then start going down the same rabbit hole, the same line of questioning, and that's when I would be like, Oh, like I'm tripping, like I'm I don't even know where this is coming from. And then I would be like, Let me like take a Xanax and chill out. That happened maybe like two or three times to where I was like, Okay, I'm sorry, like I don't know why I was um like freaking out more or less. And so that was kind of like in the back of my head is like that happened because the surgery was like traumatic, or that was like a form of PTSD. Um, and then I was taking Xanax for maybe like 30 days, and then was like, okay, I don't want to take a Xanax every day anymore, and then just stopped, which is cool because it's hard for some people. But then I I heard just cool local anecdotally through people who use drugs like recreationally and stuff, what Xanax was, and bars, hearing about like hip-hop lyrics about bars and stuff like that. Um, but that was what that was how I interfaced with Xanax for the first time before I had heard all that stuff. And I think like anxiety is relative for sure. Like you can be nervous about going to work or nervous about having a tough conversation, but just butterflies to have to talk to your first table for the night. Like, what is anxiety, you know? But that was tripper for sure.

SPEAKER_07 52:05

Yeah, definitely uh an encounter with uh larger abstract, you know, representation of that ideal or that not ideal with the idea, I guess. Anxiety itself, like depression, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 52:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 52:22

It was like this uh I guess strong demons almost, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 52:25

For sure. The I had a more HD vision of what it was come to me just now, which was like I felt like I had a girlfriend, I had like a job, I had like my body was coming together, we had a house, I did alright in my first semester, my first year of college, but um I wasn't doing great already to start my sophomore year, and I need I needed to like go off right, like get get my shit together more or less. And I was trying to. I was like going to office hours for professors and shit like that. I was trying to try and then it was like boom, flat line. And I was worried that like all those things, like the feeling I was having of being this new version of myself, I was gonna lose all of them, and like I don't know, become what you know. But if I wasn't there attending to these things and you know, making sure everything was good, they were all gonna go away. And uh that was so scary. It was so scary. I had me like trip. I'm like, get off me, I gotta get back out there. I gotta go for and they're like, dude, chill out. Like you almost died, bro. Yeah, they're coming. I was like, no, my life's coming together. I just want to be somebody so bad, you know? It's like uh to a fault. Okay, so that that anxiety, all that stuff. I think in my mind, it all stemmed from this like loss of control. It's like the feeling that it was all ripped away from me or whatever, and I had no capacity to like go fight for it or go keep the gears turning. I was like just put out into this cloud to go like recover and rest and watch everything slowly wither away with time. That's how I felt and like that. So then, but what is so then like what is control? Like that was the loss of control. So then before like to try to determine what could be control that I had before that. I guess it may maybe just like agency for things to go your way.

SPEAKER_07 54:15

Yeah, or a desired like narrative outcome that you're heading towards.

SPEAKER_10 54:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:27

Like this story makes sense. This this story is worth my sacrifice. I know how to make this story, these the gears turn for this story.

SPEAKER_11 54:34

Yeah. That's good.

SPEAKER_07 54:36

Head in this direction.

SPEAKER_11 54:37

I had to think about it. Because yeah, maybe we do kind of cling to that, like if we have a good story for our life, then our life makes sense to us. And we kind of need our life to make sense to us. And what doesn't make sense is we get more chaotic and live in more chaos. And I think the Matthew principle exists, and I think manifestation somewhat exists. So it's like you can't live in that chaos very long, or you're gonna start like becoming cigarette. Principalities.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

The principalities. It's deeper than rap. Demonic forces and principalities. For real, dude.

SPEAKER_11 55:14

For real. See, that was like a weird I wonder if it affected me more than I know that it affected me, but I don't think so. I don't like in some nation of all the thinking that I've done about it, I don't think so. I think it was just a manifestation of a lot. I remember feeling depressed before that. Like life was slipping away from me, and not knowing if I wanted to like because it's like if you don't know what you want to do, how do you know you want to do anything? And things were like, I don't know. I don't know. Not exactly sure what it was. I think I was just having a hard time. That's what I'm saying, is it's the same thing every time, just a hard time bearing the cross that is my life, which isn't even that hard. It's the one that I want to bear, but still just have a hard time just like doing the things every day that that requires, and then feeling shitty about that and then like spiraling downward because of that. But then whenever I almost died, I was like, no, I definitely want to live, I definitely don't want to die. So it's like, okay, well, that's like established. Do these things that you need to do, you know? And then I was like, okay, I want to do the things I need to do, but then I couldn't. So that was that whole thing. But more than it, more than I think it that moment changed the me that's now, I think that that moment was just like a perfect chapter in the story that is my life. Like it's the same demons that come for me, you know? And other ones could pop up and try to tempt me or try to allure me down an alley I've never been down, but usually it's the same ones that are like familiar with me or present themselves in different ways, and then you just gotta like a different kind of bait. It's a good quarterback. You're like, this is cover two. I know it doesn't look like cover two, but watch it's cover two flag, watch BOW! First down. Yeah, you gotta be like that.

SPEAKER_07 57:00

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's it. That's it. That's all we're trying to do out here. It's all trying to do out here. Be the quarterbacks. Be the champion, be the hero.

SPEAKER_11 57:13

Yeah, I think control is an illusion, but I think whatever it is you could whatever it is you could define control, like the best metaphor I could give for you is like someone who's in the zone. When you're in the zone, it feels like you have control. But are you in the zone all the time? No. But if things go predictably, sure.

SPEAKER_07 57:31

Uh-huh. And there's control by aggression or whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_11 57:37

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_07 57:38

Like uh, I guess, yeah, I guess being able to figure out or to determine what happens in the next, like to know what happens going forward, or to have the final say of what happens going forward. It's like what my rule is law, or then you could just like kill somebody, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 57:57

So it's like control like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 57:59

Yeah, dictatorship tyranny.

SPEAKER_11 58:06

Yeah, that's so those bigger forces of control that can hit you that can make you feel really out of control. And you can't only control so much. That's facts. If you can control anything at all, it's all you got. Yeah, it's like you're square, bro. Like your little garden, your little one by one.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_11 58:22

And there's times where like shit happens, bro. Like, you know, my dad my dad lost his job and they lost the house, you know. Like, shit could feel real out of control, even your garden's out of control, you know.

SPEAKER_07 58:33

Chaos has entered. The garden.

SPEAKER_11 58:36

Yeah. You always got your mind.

SPEAKER_07 58:40

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_11 58:42

There's always a future where things can be better, too.

SPEAKER_07 58:45

What's that?

SPEAKER_11 58:46

There's always a future where things can be better.

SPEAKER_07 58:48

That's the hope thing, you know what I'm saying? That's the hope. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 58:52

No, we can do it. A hope. And a future.

SPEAKER_09 58:58

Well, that hope also has upper limits of beauty attached to it. That's the craziest part, bruh. Like.

SPEAKER_07 59:05

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We get some more is more on this side, too.

SPEAKER_11 59:10

You'll be like hoping for a good outcome. And then you get an outcome that's like psychedelically crazy and fantastic and amazing, inspires wonder and awe inside of your spirit.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

Makes you cry.

SPEAKER_11 59:19

Art come to life. Poetry emotion. You suspended my disbelief. Activated faith. It's not faith anymore. It's like realization. Those moments happen. That shit's real.

SPEAKER_07 59:37

It's transcendent.

SPEAKER_11 59:38

It's transcendent.

SPEAKER_07 59:41

Because there is something to be transcended.

SPEAKER_02 59:45

And God's transcendent, being able to transcend it. But we can experience the beauty at a level that is like we have like a word for that.

SPEAKER_07 59:57

Transcend it. Good art. Moment in your life that create good art. Yeah, inspire good art.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:11

There's zones you get in too. It's like you're not always having story climaxes happen in your story every day, you know? Like even that guy popping out his craw on you. It's not exactly a story climax. It was 20 seconds on a random Monday. Right. And nothing even ultimately it was like nothing happened. Thank God.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:28

Thank God.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:29

Yeah, nothing happened.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:32

But you haven't been watching the TV shows that were happening.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:34

It reminded me of the the whatchall that whenever I parked at the lawyer's office. Yeah. And I hit that guy with the God bless you again.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:42

You had it ready, Donald.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:43

Yeah, I was like, click back. Sit down, no.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:48

I was watching a clip that said God sends angels to watch over people who are doing Christ's work. It's like it's standing in the podcast.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:56

It would have been cool to share the gospel and that's what I'm saying. If he was home for that, you know. Yeah. Maybe offended him. You know, could have been made made a little worse.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:06

It was tough because that's where I was at with the guy where I had that confrontation where I was like, let's go to church. But I also just like watching the post film, I could see how you could perceive it as like, you know, like being an asshole, you know. Don't be an asshole. I don't know. That's what I'm trying to do. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm also just a person. We can't just be a nice guy, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:28

Oh, sorry, sir. Like that.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:32

No, there's business and truth to stand on. And then when they want to take you to the rack, it's like, dude, I'm not going. I mean, like, what come on, man. There has to be something we're trying to do here that isn't just go to the rack. Like, are we trying to find truth or reason? Problem is sometimes if like one person has a point of view, this person has a point of view, and you get into an argument, neither person is ever going to change. Like, they're all they're doing is trying to convince. So it's hard to even have like a conversation where anyone's open to the other side in the first place, you know. Sometimes you can like if you're real receptive, it's like I'm here you say this. I agree with that. I think that is true. But I don't think that you can deny that this point of view also has some kind of like space here. Like, this is also true, right? And hopefully there's enough people that like the person can't just be like really hard-headed, you know. But that dude, I don't know what he was on, you know. Didn't seem like he was on the type of time to be open.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:26

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:28

Pressed why on the whip. I mean, it's insanity with the kids in the car. Like, how are you teaching your kids to just jump out in traffic? There's cars behind them.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:37

There's no other cars coming. There's other cars coming.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:39

Okay, well, thank God. Either way, yeah. What a choice.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:42

Extra, extra awkward. Were there other families around you? I don't think so. Not within memorable like proximity. Maybe like off in you know, off in the distance.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:55

What'd your wife say?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:58

Nothing. Or like during the interaction, or like afterwards? Uh more or less. It's like I'm glad you're able to like keep your like keep it cool. It's like knock him out.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:13

I thought you were gonna kick his ass, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:15

That would have been bad.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:18

Cops show up, you gotta explain that this guy hopped out in traffic. The three kids come out, they start trying to whoop your ass, you know. You got three kids trying to take you down.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:28

Yeah. The huge shirt with the pot leaf on it. What you doing, man? Come on, man. It's so funny because it's you know it's not cool. Yeah, you know it's not cool. And I hit you with a woe buddy.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:47

It's a little gentle woe buddy. You're a walking woe buddy right now. Well buddy. Whoa buddy. I think if I had to guess, you're probably running late somewhere. And this isn't helping your timeline. So, like, I'm sorry, but you know. God bless you, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:10

I think it's powerful.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:11

That's way better than trying to make a joke out of it. Just straight to scriptures. Just is it pious? Let's get out of here. No.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:22

Continue with my story, bro. Like, I ain't gonna have time to add any extra curricular chaos to the story. I just want to go home.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:31

We did not flinch under the pressure. You gotta stand in that pocket. You just got a clean black coming for you, I swear. I swear it's the left guard, he didn't have anything, so he checks backside and he sees interior threats, so he hinges open. Bah! And you're good. You step up in that pocket. Boom. Throw a strike. The one dart. That's a lot of it. A lot of it's just like state of play. A lot of every day is just state of play. It's like, it's hard to have a good game every single day. Unless you focus on how do you how do you ever have a good game? What what is it about that day that that game that you played good? What was different? You know, and then you can dive into these routines and habits and sleep and nutrition and mental frames, routines. And you can you can procure better performances out of yourself. It is definitely possible. It's super real. And that's ultimately the goal is to procure a life, a lifestyle, a set of habits that allow you to procure optimum outcomes where you play good games. But I think that that those frames work because a lot of it comes down to like just state of play. Like when conflict happens, you could have been having a bad day. And then because you're having a bad day, you're like, you know, you just have this one loose thought, and this loose thought says, you know what? I haven't missed a day in the gym for about 10 years. If I can't knock this guy out, what's it all for? What's it all been for if I can't defend myself?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:02

What am I doing? That's my life, if that's the outcome here.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:06

And and it becomes something bigger than it was, and you just decided you were gonna set the tone. Set the tone for the next 10 years of working out.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:13

If he gets within an inch of my chest, I'm knocking his ass out. I'm knocking him on his ass. I'm knocking him down. Those could have been your thoughts.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:19

But they weren't. You're playing a good game, you were in the right frames, you're in a good space. You're like, he's showing blitz, but I'm throwing strikes.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:28

Ain't no problem. Yeah, and even like taking me out of the situation, him doing that to somebody else, it could have been the wrong person, too. You know what I'm saying? Someone else could have just been hit him with the clippity clappity. He's had an ovation. Lights out.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:42

It's not funny, it's funny. It's not funny, it's funny. Uh yeah, a lot of bad outcomes, a lot of wrong people to do that to, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:50

Or been having a bad day.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:52

Slight dialogue. Maybe he was looking for anything to uh uh take it to the next level, you know? Any kind of aggressive behavior for me would have put him over the top. But you kept them kept him cool. That's Jordan Peterson for sure. Jordan Peterson has that story in his book where he's like has a neighbor that's um on maybe relatively uncocote. Drunk and stuff, drunk all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:15

Pulling up, trying to sell him toasters.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:17

Yeah, like needing money or wanting money or wanting to mess with Jordan, knocking on the door in the middle of the night, being like, hey, I want to sell you my toaster for 20 bucks. Like, how do you deal with that, you know? Big scary motorcycle gang guy. The Jordan Peterson's like, you gotta be cool, you gotta be honest. It's like aggression is not might set them off, and then lies. That's the other thing, weirdly enough. So aggression and dishonesty are the things that will set these people off. So you gotta be cool and honest. Like, stand on it. Like a Texan, like a Billy Balfern.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:52

This is a little out of place, sir. What was that?

SPEAKER_13 1:08:00

What are you doing right now? I'm doing my best.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:04

Look at yourself. I'm doing my best to handle this with some grace, sir. But uh are you okay? Yeah, the R the R UK. Do you know Jesus? Yeah, dude. If you could stumble him with the with the are you okay, Hesi, cross him with Jesus. Yeah, dude. Might just that might be the move going forward. I might try it out. Established. This is strange. Are you okay? Do you want to pray? God bless you, bro. I love you, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:37

Praying for your story, man. Hopefully, it's an amazing story, man. It is an amazing story, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:43

Yeah, no matter what's going on in our stories, both of us ended up in a drunk tank. Is not good. That's not good for either of us. We're all trying to go home. We're just people, man. We're all just people. Speaking of Schlitterbahn. Yes. The Bond. My parents had a classic play.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:02

Classic Schlitterbahn play.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:04

What's this play?

SPEAKER_11 1:09:06

Core. This is like 32 zone. Finish Schlitterbahn. Shut it down. Tell everybody's everybody's happy. Everybody's ready to go. Nobody's complaining. We're cooked. Cooked it. One and a half miles away. Taco Cabana.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

TC.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:29

Dude, that's an adult looking back on that play. 32 zone Taco Cabana. Cabana cabana. Hash. Everybody goes in there. You know I'm slamming quesadillas. I freaking love quesadillas. I'm probably begging my mom for two of them because I'm hungry. And I'm out cold afterwards. Like I got punched, bro. Just like hearing nothing but white noise. Mighty night. Out of there. All the kids, probably just DJ Gandhi. And also, I think Taco Cobana had a little margarita. So my mom's like, my mom and dad getting a little margarita on. Kids are getting knocked out. They're driving home, chilling, having a conversation, enjoying the drive home together. I'm like, beautiful. What a play. Great play. And Taco Cobana's relatively affordable, you know. Like compared to when you're just thinking about food costs and stuff like that. Like, Dev doesn't know. Chick-fil-A is fast food. She's like, oh, this is great. I love Chick-fil-A. Most quesadillas could have been made by a Michelin chef for all I cared at that point, is what it's thinking. It was gold. Golden. Solid gold.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:35

Core. Slitties. Next to the taco kabisi, bro. Yes. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:40

Hidden out of this world.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:42

Hitting ridiculous, bro. Hitting the food afterwards.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:47

And nothing sleeping like after you went to a water park.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:50

See, that was a thing. That was a whole thing you had to deal with. Slitis dope. Dude, I had a realization that we're getting older, you know. Part of that was touched with the mentioned it earlier in the Patreon portion, but the touching on my heart of like playing the volleyball and seeing the kids like trying to like come up with the idea in the game mid like at conception of idea, like have that idea in front of me at the torrent river. That's how you slit. That's how you enjoy the bond.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:26

That's what we're all coming here for.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:28

Yeah, that's sick.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:29

Just a little game right there. That's sick. Touch my heart.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:35

Man, bro, man. I love him. I miss it.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:39

But I had something attached with that, is that we're getting older, you know what I'm saying? And then like even at work, I had just said, I had just said the phrase. That's all she wrote. What does that mean? What do you think that means?

SPEAKER_11 1:11:54

Uh like it's over.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:55

It's a wrap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:56

It's shocked. It's good.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:58

The shift is over. We finished all the side work. We're done. We're about to leave. Like, that's all she wrote.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:04

Server assistant. She's like, I don't know. 20, maybe 21-ish in that ballpark. She's like, X, like, like, what are you referring to? What are you trying to say? Like, what are you talking about? And I was like, You've never heard like people say that? Like, that's all she wrote? She's like, nah. I was like, oh no. Are you kidding me? Well, it's an expression that we used to say back in the 1900s. I'd say, it's over. It's done. I'm not sure where that that derision has come from exactly. But it's a common saying that we all know what we're talking about, you know. Except for them kids. Except for them kids. I feel like it's kind of intuitive. It's over. It's done. Get older, man. Twitch my heart, man. We used to be like Jazz and the girls' age. We were their age, you know, and younger potentially. Going enjoying the schlit.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:13

Enjoying the bomb.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:15

Yeah. It's weird as hell for sure. It's tough because it's like you gotta let go of. Like I'm just doing that stuff with my dad, you know. But then I gotta be like enjoying the reciprocal, which is really easy. It's natural. It's nice to be like there for your kids, you know. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:31

That's how you slit.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:35

James Bond, dog. Right. James Bond.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:40

Yeah, yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:42

Yeah, but um it's life's a crazy thing. The flat circle nature is crazy, right? Crazy. It's insane. Crazy story we all playing. Deep as hell, yeah. It's really it'll touch your heart.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:57

Yeah, having like kids and family and other people's stories also to derive beauty from is a beautiful thing. You know what I'm saying? We love our families and like our kids for sure, you know. Yeah. Talking about that earlier, going to like the volleyball practices, soccer practices later for Demi. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna love it.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:14

For sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:15

It's awesome.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:16

It's like, yeah, I'm gonna just go and watch you do this like clinic, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:20

Let's go. You're down to get better, you try you try and get a little better, let's go. What's gonna be better?

SPEAKER_11 1:14:26

Yeah, it's a lot. I felt kind of bad when I realized like it's like a financial strain and a time constraint for your parents, but it's a thing, yeah. Yeah. I'm thankful that they did it. It's a worthy sacrifice. Kids, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:39

All these kids playing all these. It's an opportunity, or you know, say, or it's like it's a gift to have that story to have parenthood. Parenthood's a gift. Thanks. It's more deeper beauty, more nuanced beauty as well, you know. Worthy for sacrifice, and then just like a whole additional like set of books to read, you know what I'm saying? As far as like things to consume.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:01

Yeah, yeah, and you're right, you're right. You're right. And it's beautiful. Yeah, one thing that I would say about parenthood for sure, that's cool, is that um I get these like uh reciprocal perspectives of my childhood memories. And then that allows me to have like a different kind of connection perspective for my mom, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. More empathy towards like your parents, yeah. As far as what it means to be a parent, yeah, or being the same age as somebody like during a specific time.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:34

Right, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:38

And uh like gone through it.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:42

Um like watching Finding Nemo, watching Finding Nemo as a kid with my mom, and then watching it as an adult. Yeah, like you get this, you can see it through her lens, and then watching it through her lens gives me this deeper connection with her now. You know, it's like magic almost. Like, there's no way I should be able to find more connection with my mom because she's not with us anymore. But through Demi, I do have more connection with her because I understand her in a way that I couldn't understand her before, you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:16

And that's super cool. I mean, that's like crazy. That's like, you know. It's cool, man. It's good. Maybe everybody feels like that when they get older, they can relate to their parents more, you know?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:26

Mm-hmm. I think it's at least it's true on some level, like bare minimum.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:32

Yeah, like I had the idea.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:33

Well, it's like your parents are just people, you know. We're all splitting this game here. We're all just experiencing reality together. Yeah, that's true. And it's like, okay, whatever. My parents were this age, I am now this age, and I could imagine them experiencing reality now. Or like, whatever. More empathy, more you could actually kind of see where they're at. Yeah. Or what was going on based on what was going on before this.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:02

I think there's uh definitely the reality that as we get older our parents just become more contextualized as just people, you know. Just people, but doing their best and whatnot.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:16

But yeah, it's an open it's a perfect show for real, but it's open. It's like it's fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:35

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's awesome. But it's a lot, it's a whole thing. It takes a whole of you.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:44

Yeah, it does for sure. It's super worth it though. Yeah. To engage in it. It's a worthy thing. It's worth it and it's worthy. Sometimes it doesn't feel or I think it it's like sometimes you're really exhausted and drained. Can't even pretend. Like Drake said. But it's you know in that moment that this is a worthy thing, even though I don't feel super great right now, and I am tired, and this is a long day, and you are screaming in my ear, but like it's a worthy thing for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:16

Mm-hmm. The worthy sacrifice. Yeah, part of that I had part of the idea has crossed my mind of the like the par the parental instinct to be willing to sacrifice yourself for your child. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And the amount of significance the reciprocal must mean for God to like give up his son, you know what I'm saying? To be willing to sacrifice your son like that. Yeah. Because I feel like the paternal instinct is kind of opposite of that.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:47

That's an insane ask.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:49

Yeah. It's like I don't if it's him or me, then like take me. But like it has to be him. It's like, oh, that's that's worse. You know what I'm saying? That's worse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:02

That's worse for some you know measurable. Some kind of representation.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:06

What it's like to the sacrifice. It's like uh the same kind of pain as like your son died, you know, being sacrificed for sin, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:17

How he feels towards us with our sin nature. Yeah. He's like, I wish it wasn't that way so bad I would do this.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:27

It's a lot of love. It's a lot of love.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:31

Oh yeah, we should honor that.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:34

In public. Yeah. Lon t-shirts. Yo, crazy.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:41

You're right, bro. The spiritual can take association, but I mean, yeah, you should. We're gonna leave here, we're gonna get in cars, and we're gonna drive. You know, like you're gonna be in traffic for sure. Traffic always exists, opportunities to sin. If you think about God up here, thinking about the love God has for us, it makes so much sense to me. I gotta come back out of here and then go sit in traffic.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:05

Hopefully you're not sitting in traffic. Hopefully, you're listening to a good podcast. I will be.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:11

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Yours is better.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:18

Uh yeah. But no, that's the that's the that's where it gets like I I feel like that's a natural disconnect perhaps for other people or for anybody. It's like you just sit in church for a long time and you get really spiritually deep, and then you leave church, and then you go sit in traffic, and it's like it's not like it undoes it all, but it takes you out of that place where it's like all of it makes sense and you can do something. I'm like, we gotta honor that. We gotta honor that sacrifice. We gotta like bring the best sacrifice out of ourselves. We gotta try to do something different on Monday morning. Then you go sit in regular freaking boring beep beep traffic, trying to get to a freaking Lubies, beep booping around, and can't get to it. You got a 30-minute wait for a table of Longhorns, so you're just dad decides you're gonna go to Applebee's instead. Now Applebee's isn't Longhorn, and they're still a 10-minute way, so you're still waiting. Finally get sat down, they're busy as hell. And it's this is I'm I'm literally drawing the straight out of my life, but I can definitely tell you that by the time the food comes out of that Applebee's, you are not in the same place of like, I gotta honor that. Like mentally, it's just hard to like hold it, you know. But you gotta find a way, you gotta find a way. You gotta find a way to not just like feel it in one moment and then go be a beat booper in the next moment. Let it all just kind of wear off of you. I've heard that said it a lot. Pursue that revival conferences, too. It's like we get just closer, get closer. Well, Justin, you said you gotta You gotta do it every day. What did you say what is it you said? You said you gotta I think you said you gotta choose God every day for sure. I think maybe you said you gotta die every day before. I'm sure. Makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, but I think that's uh maybe you said you gotta kill your flesh every day. I'm not sure. But the idea of you're not gonna wake up tomorrow and it's just gonna be like easy all over again. So you're gonna have to like fight your way to the place where you get into that spot where you did it, and you're like, okay, I did it. I'm a doer. I did it. I can sleep good tonight. Wake up, but you're still gonna have to battle in the next day. And some days don't feel like so much like battles, and those days are trying to get you to fall asleep so you can get waxed by a big battle you didn't see coming. No, I'm just kidding, but sometimes it feels like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:23

Oh shit, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:24

Stay on your toes and shit. It's coming, it's coming. Good routine, sharp sword.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:31

The chaos is coming, it's coming. Yeah, in like big waves, you know what I'm saying? There's like fork days in the road. Sometimes you'll see the breaking off point of like a what feels like a new chapter. But new seasons are obviously more identifiable, just like temporally, whatever. You can feel it. Calendar days, but it's also like points in story where a couple things are happening to stories around you, and things are going like up or down to a degree, or sometimes, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:11

And the timing is no coincidence.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:14

No, it's something relatable. It's like if you get a new job and your sister broke up with her boyfriend, like the same like week. It's a new like Monday hits both of you, and it's the first week of this new. It's hard not to feel like y'all aren't in a new season of life together or yeah, new season for sure, dog.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:32

For sure, dog, for sure.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:36

And that that's just a super random example, but I feel like that's the kind of thing you're talking about. Like, I see that happen all the time. Mostly I get tripped out when it gets to like three or four. That's when I'm like, yo. That's when I'll bring it up on a like in a conversation and say, and this is happening, and this is happening, and this is happening, and that happened. It's like, well, me and my good friend John both found ourselves enjoying new opportunities at the same time. And it was super out of like left field on both accounts on some level. Which like hard not to feel like there's some kind of something there.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:13

The timing of things, you never know. The magnitude. That's the thing. Meaning the the true breadth and depth, but you can experience it today and try to breath move you, move it a little bit with a breath.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:31

Depth. Yeah, that's man.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:40

I like the Ovan. That boy's silly.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:44

The goal, that's a dream, you know. Yes. Uh they're potting like that. Just podding. Pot so hard. Pod so hard. Pod father, bro. People know what the fuck. God bless you.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:57

Thank you, sir. Like you said, uh chew.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:02

Getting attacked by the demons. God bless you. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:04

I don't mean to throw us off the trail, but trying to spin it. We got a little bit left. What time do you wanna? Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna go for like another 10 or 15, even. Yeah, sounds good. Chilling. Do some stags. But yeah, dude, I love this little pod so much.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:18

Uh yeah, there's a drink.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:20

Spiritually, it's tough right now. We gotta get it out of the mud. We gotta, it's like I gotta go win easy games consistently. I gotta go Michael Jordan for a little bit. But it's okay, we can do that. We got Forrest Frank coming up next week. That's gonna be insane.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:35

Uh yeah, I just gotta side of the ass. I gotta go ham for a second real quick. And stay fly, stay fresh, stay quick, and all that ass.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:47

Stay clean. Stay clean. Yeah, little baby downs on the cut. She's doing good. I had this weird moment where one wrap up, I guess, both another another thought about everything else we talked about. But I was just like, oh man, like I could just decide to keep Demian from daycare and we could just go to Schlitterbahn and enjoy the day on like a Tuesday and just hang out together all day. We don't have to do anything crazy. We can just do stuff she can want to do, you know, take all the safety precautions, keep it real chill. She'd have a lot of fun, probably. And I was like, oh, that's like the same exact thought that led your mom to taking you and Justin and Schlitterbahn on like a Red and Tuesday. I was like, oh, that's that's crazy. That's cool. But she's also, we were like eight, so I think we did enjoy it a little bit more. It's like she's wouldn't exactly know what's going on. I think it'll be fun, but we'll probably we'll probably go at some point, but I think like five or six is like peak. That's where the that's where you get to call it.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:47

I think it comes through on all the four gears, you know? Yeah. You said what, five to six or before eight?

SPEAKER_11 1:26:53

I think five to six. Yeah, I think the first time we went, I was in like first grade. So we went on like uh, I think me, you, Jordan, Derek, and Ed. I think first grade? Yeah.

unknown 1:27:06

Dang.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:07

Yeah, it might have been just me, Derek, Jordan, Ed. I don't know if Derek was there. Maybe it was me, you, Jordan, and Ed. I don't know. But I remember Jordan fell through his tube like a thousand times.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:18

I was there for that one.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:19

Okay, that was the birthday trip.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:20

Okay, yeah, I was there for that one for sure.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:22

Yeah. And so, yeah, we were in like first or second grade, had to be. We're young as hell at that point. That was one of the early trips. Because that became lore. But just Jordan always falling out of his tube so many times. Lore. And yeah, I only went with like the big group that one time. It was like you can have a birthday party, or we can have a cool party, or you can have presents. I was like, what does a cool party look like? She's like, Oh no, we can take a bunch of kids should have on. I was like, Well, that sounds tight. Sounds like a vibe.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:53

That was a vibe for sure. Lore. Lore for sure. Lore, dude. It was cooler still kicking, just got eight billion. For the merger. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:03

That's phenomenal. Good for them.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:06

Good for you.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:07

I think it's the river, too, right? That helps that whole thing happen. Is that they're on a river. You can't just.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:13

They're right next to the Komala. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:15

I think you just build a Schlitterbond wherever you want. Imagine building a rival bond right across the river.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:23

The better bond.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:24

That's messed up. The Ruffles is a crazy place.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:31

Texas is popping crazy. It's been like that since my college. You know, every year it's like the newest freshman class at Texas State was always the most popular populated class. Yeah, for sure. That's just been going on forever. Since I've been going to T Stizy. What is that? Like 20 12. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Wow. Whoa. It's been like 13, 14 years. Those are like two cycles of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:07

I don't know. Going crazy. Going fast.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:12

The time is out of control. It's like from Austin to like all the smaller intermittent cities all the way down to San Antonio. And like there's Houston and Dallas. And those are like the four obvious mega hubs. But then in between each of those mega hubs, there's like little mega subhubs within those. And like those are going at a rate where it's all just like connecting almost, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 1:29:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:35

Suburbs.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:36

That's kind of like the final vision, right? Is that it'll be all kind of like laced up. There won't be a lot of open lands. Like if you take if you take the toll road, right? There's a point on the toll road where you can look left and you can see like downtown Austin. But then from where you are in the toll road to downtown Austin, it's clearly like, I don't know, I don't know, 10 or 20 miles. And it's just land. And then if you look out the window to the right, it's just land. And then you keep driving forward for like a really long ass time and it's just land, and then you like get to Flugerville eventually. But so between Austin and Flugerville, it's like that's where Elon Musk built the Tesla plant that's out there. Because it's like just land, like that he was able to get some land out there. So that's like I guess what people are saying is that eventually, or you're saying too, is that they'll just like fill that land between Austin and Flugerville, and it'll become stuff. Just stuff. Just us. I don't know if a GDP can accommodate just like unlimited building of stuff. But if more people keep coming, then GDP goes up, more money flying around.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:40

People have their own funds to do what they want. They can just well who they're buying it from. Who determines how much the land is worth?

SPEAKER_11 1:30:49

Who owns this land?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:51

Right.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:52

Is all that land owned? Can we just claim some of it? This is mine. This is a flag. This is unclaimed land, right? There's gotta be some, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:01

Yeah, establishing the the country like in family guy.

SPEAKER_11 1:31:05

Yeah. Yeah. Allegedly, Luke's grandpa was like did claim some land. Like had a lot of land to flip. I saced.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:15

I don't think he claimed like that for his day.

SPEAKER_11 1:31:17

He probably bought it from somebody. Okay. But who? I don't know. You know, that's a good question to ask that guy. I think he might have passed away recently.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:25

He was like Who owns the deeds? Where the deeds come from? Who determines the deeds? Right, right. Happened what in the 1600s? We're gonna get into some American colonization stuff, I guess.

SPEAKER_11 1:31:37

This is mine. Says who? Greedy Whites. This piece of paper. Yeah, I'm not sure. We purchased Louisiana from Native Americans on a piece of paper. Somewhere between that happening and now, they divvied everything up. Got some deeds going. Yeah, they got some deeds going. Some titles and deeds going. There's like land assessors, you know? Okay. Helping draw like lines and stuff like that. State lines? Yeah. Boy. Well, careful with that.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:08

That's funny.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:10

That's a whole nother sub-story. Some more lore.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:13

More lore. More lore. But yeah, at some point they were dividing it all up. And uh I guess it's all divided up now, so if you wanted any of it, you'd have to buy it from somebody. Somebody owns it.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:32

Do what you want with it. Yeah. Who knows, man? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:39

That's the thing when I was thinking about if you want to buy land across the Schlitterbahn. Okay. Who are you gonna buy that from? Who's got that land? Are they willing to sell? Schlitterbahn probably owns a good chunk of that. The land across the river? Maybe. Some people are owning that land and they just want to have a tube stand. And some people. The house I was thinking about Canyon Lake houses, like all those houses on the river out there. All these people, all someone someone owns all these houses? Somebody. Are any of these houses for sale? On this little Maybe, yeah. How much do these houses sell for? What's the least expensive and the most expensive?

SPEAKER_07 1:33:18

I don't know. At least half mil, right? Or you know, 500k?

SPEAKER_11 1:33:22

Shh. What do you think? I know a house in the heart of round rock costs like seven to eight hundred thousand.

unknown 1:33:32

Boop, boop, boop.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:33

It's a lot, man. That's a big old fat meal payment.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:38

They think they can just say a mil. It's worth 800. With an M. They don't really want to sell it. Like you have to pay me 1.1 million and the point one is to make me think about it. Just to make me think about it. Just make me think about it. I don't got that kind of. Well, here's another thing is not everybody, no, hardly anybody has that kind of money. A lot of people will just go into debt for it. And if you're in debt, if you're in a ton of debt, you got a bunch of really cool things, you're paying all the debt off. Does it matter? It's like being on salary for yourself. With stuff instead of money. Yeah, there you go. I have the stuff all the time. As long as I show up to work every day. It's like a salary. So as long as I keep showing up, I'll keep getting paid. I don't have to worry about the hours or the blah blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:21

I'll learn the stuff to have results of me to get the stuff. Yeah. I'll do that.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:28

And making the proper sacrifice? I'll do that, yeah. Of course. Apparently, it's like the worst thing you can do is get into a bunch of debt. But it seems like if I'm doing all the stuff and I've got a steady salary and I know all the money's good, let's get the house, let's get the wake house, let's get the cars, I just gotta keep showing up to work. Whatever, who cares? We're good, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:34:54

Run it.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:55

You're just kind of stuck with all that stuff for 30 years. It's part of the problem.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:00

A lot of stuff. Okay. At least a little bit of stuff.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:05

Some people sell the property and get their equity out though. You're just playing from behind. I think I think if you have a wealth or a nest egg or something like that, then that it's less scary because you can like fall back on your wealth, you know. But if you're just like taking proportions, that'll well some people be like, hey, you just declare bankruptcy and you're fine, bro. Oh my Michael Scott. You'll be huge, though. Don't also have to do that. I don't know, man. I don't know. That's beyond me right now. Here's what I was thinking about, though.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:38

Economy of money.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:39

Round it out.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:40

Where does all this money go come from?

SPEAKER_07 1:35:43

Oh god. That's a great question. I have no idea. No idea. I show up, I do my job for an agreed upon amount. Not really. Well, yeah, this situation, I really. For a chance at a slot machine. For a chance at a slot machine.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:05

For a shot at a slot.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:10

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:12

Well, all our all our money comes from people. Literally, people's pocket change. They give us their scraps.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:18

Tipp it.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:18

Thank you for your scraps.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:19

Tipp it, tipping.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:20

Thank you. Thank you. I'll be at Starbucks and I'll be like, couple dollars for you. Kills my PPA. You're killing me.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:29

This cup of coffee just cost me eight bucks.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:32

No good. It's no good. I can't do this. Can't afford this. I'm heveraging money right now. But here's my my loose change or whatever, you know. Here's like my idea of here's my whatever, my excess, my scraps, my a little something for you. Well, like I've got that up to like $2 because I like empathize and want to build good karma or whatever. I don't think I'm not gonna try to tell y'all what I'm tipping, but I'm just saying. But that's how we get paid.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:58

Same thing, just the life of a server.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:01

Yeah, facts, facts. But then where are they getting their money?

SPEAKER_07 1:37:05

Yeah, right. Instead of watching Landman, people making money off of oil and gas. I heard that show's good. People working the patch be making 100k plus, you know, working oil field two weeks on, two weeks off, whatever. It's like so that's definitely one way people making money. Through goods and services, through things that are provided to help make things better that we are willing to pay for.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:27

Let's just do the oil fill guys. What's going on?

SPEAKER_07 1:37:29

Where does this money come from?

SPEAKER_11 1:37:30

The goods and services is right, right. That's good. Goods and services. We can provide a service, people pay us money. But it's like, well, where is the let's do the oil filled people? Let's do the oil field worker guys. Okay. They're getting paid. Who are they getting paid by? They're getting paid by. We'll call them petrol united. All company. Oil company united. All company. So the oil company is writing checks. Okay. So the oil company, where do they get their money from?

SPEAKER_07 1:37:55

All company.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:56

They sold the oil? And then but who okay, so then who do they sell the oil to?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:01

Okay. They sell it to I guess different manufacturers. I guess for like gas or whatever we use to fill up our cars and then whatever else is in a whole bunch of different other products as well.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:14

They sell it to gas stations.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:17

Okay, yeah. So then that money, so then I think gas stations have gotten so big that they drill for their own oil.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:23

Oh, like Exxon and stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:28

So maybe they sell to manufacturers that need oil for if there's a shortage, but I think there's I think there's some demand to use it in different products and different industries. Plastics and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:45

That's where it gets sketchy too.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:47

Okay. How do I buy some oil?

SPEAKER_11 1:38:50

Yeah, like a drum of oil. That's what they sell it in, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:54

Yeah. A 55 gallon.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:56

I want a drum of oil. I want to build my own gas station. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:00

Okay. What do you call your gas station? What's up? What do you call your gas station? I don't know. This is popping in my head as we're talking about it. I like MJ38. Yeah, me too, right? The MJ38 shop. Facts, dude. Genius idea. Let's rival Bucky's.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:14

It's gas.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:17

That's the tagline, bro. Dude, somebody did this and then built Bucky's. Just that right there.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:22

Let's have a dope gas station. Like make it dope.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:25

You know what it just needs? He's a mascot.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:27

Giant bathrooms.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:28

And a mascot. The giant bathrooms. I'm more into that now than the mascot. That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:32

Giant bathrooms, doll.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:34

Giant bathrooms. And like a bakery.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:37

Yeah. Yeah, made in house. You know what I'm saying? Made-in-house stuff.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:42

Yeah, I'm kind of making fun of them, but they were genius in that moment for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:45

So if I want to get a gas station going, can I just go buy this oil? But yeah, this is still the questions that are within the larger question of like where'd all this money come from? That's the question.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:55

But just printing it? I guess like I well, I guess it's the final step before you can't really go any further. Is I guess the oil sells two people, like they can sell two whatever companies. And then, but then that company got their money to buy the oil from the profits from whatever they're selling. So then like that then that came from the consumers. Came from you and me buying the toothbrush that they made with the plastic. And so that's like the thing, I guess, that stimulates the economy literally is like us buying the products is what allows the companies to buy the supplies to make the products. Yes. And then manufacturing companies can be alive because people are buying supplies. But the only reason they're buying supplies is because people are consuming the products. And so, but then how do we get our money? Right?

unknown 1:40:43

Right.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:43

We work for one of those companies. Work for one of those companies. Right. Yeah. So then it's like, I guess it's just like going in a circle.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:49

Yeah. It's a flat circle, money.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:52

It is, dude. And I guess you're hoping to make more than you spend until you become wealthy. And America's predicated on being able to do that. But inflation's jacking the prices up on everything, making it harder on average to beat the beat the turn. And then like you look at rent in like New York or California, but I know those shops pay more money, but the discrepancy between like working at like let's say let's say you have like a doctor in New York makes more money on average probably than a doctor in like uh Missouri because like the what's the term cost of living is higher. But then if you look at like a McDonald's worker in New York and a McDonald's worker in Missouri, they're probably closer to the same pay rate. So that's what I'm saying. On the upper end of the spectrum, you can make more money on these jobs, but not on the lower spectrum. That's not creating a good quality of life for those people. I'm sure being like broke in California sucks, dude. Look at the homeless thing going on there, you know what I'm saying? Like cost of living being high is bad. That's what I'm trying to point to.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:52

Life.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:58

The weight, the cost of sin. You have to experience death, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:07

Yeah. That's worse than well having a bad cost of living. The weight of the weight of sin is death.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:15

I'm just saying that it's that's like that's an expression of just like an underlying truth. Or like the under one of the underlying, like uh foundational piece of like a thought in the realm of it's we're we're interfacing with the experience, but like ultimately, like the title of that experience is like life or like death. It's like the same thing. There is no none like we are experiencing something, but ultimately we will die. Like that is we don't we don't we can't see it like that. We don't see it like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:53

But it's so weird that that's the case, and that's like what's going on here, and that comes from a place that's like beyond our comprehension. Yeah, but we are experiencing death, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and death is hard, and death is su that that's that that's a big thing. But the suffering, I guess death and suffering are like the same realm or the same spectrum of like uh like negative emotion and negative repercussions are like anxiety, yeah, depression. But death is uh it's a real thing out there. It's a constraint, it's a thing that we're doing here, and then suffering is like just like an inherent portion of the experience itself as well. The experience of death is suffering. We're suffering through our experience of death every day, and it's hard to maintain and develop plans and actions and stories that allow you to fight that and to make it beautiful. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. I agree with you, and then to get so I can like get the consequences, you know, homelessness and all this, yeah, mental illness, yeah, spiritual attacks, atrocities.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:59

I don't know, it's like you need to crazy account, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're looking at footage of stuff that's happening in like Iran or Ukraine.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:10

Just all the damage we've done to each other for hundreds of years, thousands of years. There's so much to pull from, it's like it's crazy, but that's just what's documented, dog.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:20

And it's constant mental warfare. We're compelled to be ideologues. We're compelled to play identity politics. And I think that um it's mental warfare to try to I don't know, I don't know why. It I guess you would say it's like marketing and production and TV viewership, trying to monetize attention and stuff like that. But it seems like it also makes us more controllable, it makes us more dictatable, it keeps us more distracted if we're like constantly being like uh told we're under attack or these people are gonna change your way of life, or um like politics has just been so dramatic for like the last decade, you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:45:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:13

Presidential candidates being labeled as people who will ruin your way of life, or who hate you, or who are going to um I think it's not just lead our country, but influence the outcome of what's going on here almost. Influencers. I was like, it was so hard to be an influencer back in the day to a degree, to the magnitude of which now you have access to the ease at you know, to just get on Instagram or to become an influencer, you know what I'm saying? It's like a term and like a idea of a job that we've come to accept in our culture and society. Yeah. Things we're giving money to. It's like what?

SPEAKER_11 1:45:48

It's weird, but Donald Trump was before it was influencers, Michael Jordan, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:55

Socrates, Jesus, right, right.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:59

Not to compare DT to Jesus, but just along the stream of consciousness we were on is where we ended up. But yeah, dude, in fact, I mean, people followed him. Influential character, yeah. Influential kind of guy. Yeah, you can arrest an influencer and not be the same kind of influential that Jesus was, but that guy had it natty. That guy had the natty 20. Follow that guy.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:22

The most influential person ever.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:25

Shake people to their core.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:28

A walking psychedelic experience.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:30

Beyond comprehension.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:31

Like things that shake, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:34

Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Was there uh was there anything else you wanted to say to the beautiful people?

SPEAKER_11 1:46:40

Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:40

Before we get back into the stories that are our lives. Here's the thing. It's false coming for sure.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:44

Falls coming.

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Seasons changing soon, dog. Football coming back soon, y'all.

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There's gonna be a Sunday. There's gonna be a brisk Sunday with some overcast.

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Some brisket.

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Good game on TV. Ladies watching, just your man will be excited. Good game. If you're disinterested or in understanding the conceptualization of this game, you know, teams and rosters is gonna be a spicy one on. You're gonna have some soup, French bread, a burger. I don't know what the vibe is exactly. You're gonna be cozy, safe, cozy, watching a good game, and it'll be like, ha, we're in fall. From now until then, we gotta do something with this time. I think fall's gonna feel real good. So I suggest we go crazy. Go in, attach yourself to the mission, get diabolical in a very positive and holy sense. Just go off for the rest of the summer, enjoy it, because it's gonna slip away either way. It feels good when you get to the end of the summer and you feel like I feel red hot. That's a song Red Hot came off of there. So I just went ham all summer. And I got to August, and I was like, no one can guard me. I am unguardable right now. Put this some work.

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Unguardable.

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My good friend Justin says there's some low-hanging fruit that you can easily manageably take care of. Some low-hanging fruit you can easily and manageably take care of. Put that in your subconscious. There is some low-hanging fruit you can easily and manageably take care of. Because that's in my subconscious. And I'll walk by something and I'll hear Justin's voice and I'll be like, I gotta come on, dude. At least at least do that. At least do the it's a low-hanging dog. You got a yogurt sitting on your freaking counter for a week. At least throw that away before you walk out the door, bro. So thank you for your influence. Hell yeah, dog. Let's go. That's the snowball. Little winds. That's a snowball.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:41

Little winds, bro. Yeah, start just push. Just push. Just today. It's just today. It's always today. And it looks about the same as yesterday. Just about. Right. Damn near identical. Sometimes it changes drastically.

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When you're right, you're bright.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:01

Even right after that, it goes right back to okay, but it's about the same thing as yesterday. There's like one day where it's like that, and then it's always about the same, and it feels weird. Or you can't conceptualize the depth and breadth of the day. Put the spirals out, make one good decision. Snowball. The idea of a snowball, whatever we're pointing to when we say that idea, the snowball effect. Matthew principle. Believe in that. Push towards that. I think the best way to do so is to try to align yourself with what God's will is for your life. The best way to do that is through prayer and scripture. Meditation. Like directed effort in that direction, spiritually. Abstractly, it's abstract. It's abstract.

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It's a whole different gem. It's a whole different gym. And yeah, working out too is the other thing, too. Take care of your body. Your temple. It's a temple. It's discipline more than anything. Your discipline.

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Mental jujitsu.

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Just gotta do it. It's gotta be important.

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It's hard. It's hard. A lot of drifting. A lot of stuff you gotta take care of. A lot of real responsibilities and obligations. For real. But there's a little hanging fruit. It's a beautiful story. Trust it. Hope in a future. We love you. See you in billionaires.

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Rolling through the city to the light show. Really ain't no telling where we might go. I just took the switch on my mind.