Worship and Leadership by LifePoint Creative
This podcast was intended to resource our Dream Teamers at LifePoint Church, with biblical fundamentals on worship, life and a variety of leadership principles.
Worship and Leadership by LifePoint Creative
SUNDAY REWIND: God Has More
What if embarking on a journey with Jesus could transform every aspect of your life? Join Emily Himes and Pastor Mike Burnette as they explore "The Journey," a series inspired by Church of the Highlands that emphasizes discipleship and the Great Commission.
Rediscovering devotion isn't just a personal endeavor; it impacts families and entire communities. These collective efforts aim to foster a mindset of full surrender to Christ, emphasizing the importance of community in spiritual growth and in guiding others toward a deeper faith journey through ongoing discipleship.
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Speaker 2:Chipper, but I have notes, so I'm going to do like this right, there you go, there's your prompter. Hey everyone, I am Emily Himes and I am excited that we get to dive into this week's sermon a little bit deeper here on Sunday Rewind Today we kicked off a new sermon.
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Speaker 2:That feels like it's just a downward spiral of fun it's going great. It's great, Fabulous. Hey everyone, I am super excited to be here. My name's Emily Himes and we are going to dive right in with Pastor Mike Burnett with a new series.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:What is the new series? You explain it to us.
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, emily, you're such a joy-filled, joyful person. It's always a pleasure to be around you. Thanks for hosting this. We started a brand new series called the Journey and we have borrowed the big ideas, the main concepts from our pastor, the pastor that leads us in so many ways, church of the Highlands down in Birmingham. It's an eight-week series on really what it looks like to journey with Jesus as a disciple, basic tenets of faith. It's built out of really kind of the theme verse of the entire series would be out of the Great Commission where Jesus says as you're going into all the world, make disciples, baptize them and teach them to observe all that I've commanded you. I mean you could do years and years of this right, but we're going to do eight weeks of the big highlights of what it means to be on a journey with Jesus, to obey the commands of Christ. And today was week one introducing the series. But then also the first idea that God has more for you.
Speaker 2:God has more for your life.
Speaker 1:God has more faith, more mercy, more forgiveness, more transformation. God has more for you.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love it. So, but first question I love it, I love it, so, but first question how are you feeling after preaching for services? Seriously, how are you feeling?
Speaker 1:I'm exhausted. Okay, great, and so, yeah, I'm tired. Every Sunday I tend to go home and I sleep about two and a half hours, take a real hard nap, and then get up in time.
Speaker 2:That's called taking a sleep.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yeah, I get up in time to have's called taking a sleep. That's right. Yeah, I get up in time to have dinner with the girls and our family and then I'm pretty groggy on Sunday nights.
Speaker 1:I don't really come out of that fog, so used to Steph would ask you know when I get up, or whatever. Hey, can you help with this, or can you? What do you think about? And years ago we any business on Sunday nights. So like we're not talking budget, we're not, you know, painting the lattice. We don't have lattice. But you know what I'm saying. We're not doing hard stuff. It's a pretty chill night so, but I'm feeling energized, excited about the series. I feel like the people in the congregation loved it, loved the opening. We're really challenged it was. It was a lot of pushing and pulling, so pushing you to believe God has more than pulling you into some obedience things. So it's really challenging. Anytime you preach like that, you run the risk of wondering how do people take it and tolerate it. But I think the congregation really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:Well, we absolutely appreciate what you do and seriously thank you so much and just for pastoring and shepherding us and, like you said, four services is so tired so we're asking you to speak 20 more minutes on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we were in two other locations. Obviously, our fifth service in town is at Austin, peay, and then a sixth service for this series is at Bayshore, new York, and so they got this sermons. This is the first time. This is actually really exciting. The first time in the history of that church they're watching a service on video and we got to be a part of that. So it's been a long process to get us totally to this point with them and that's just been really exciting.
Speaker 2:So Pastor.
Speaker 1:Sam's hosting there, and Pastor Jordan and Pastor Aaron are hosting at Austin Peay and then here at Rossview. So six services going through this material plus our online crowd.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of it's amazing, but I only got to do it four times. It's okay, we can just play it over and over and over again, that's right, keeps it in and out. So one of the things that you said that actually really stuck out is every time that we take a next step, we will experience more of God. Can you quickly explain the significance of the discipleship aspect of that and how that happens, one step at a time?
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, discipleship happens one step at a time, right, it's true of anything that you want to grow in. So I asked the question how many of you have room to grow in your walk with Christ? And everybody raised their hands, of course. And if you want to grow in fitness, you got to go to the gym and go back again and go back again and learn new techniques with weights. If you want to lose weight, you've got to grow, and it's one step at a time. Nobody decides I'm going to have a significant change without a significant process and so you want to lose a bunch of weight. You got to change and you have to have victory every day over those changes. Right? Same with fitness. Same with getting a degree or advancing your education. It's one class at a time, one paper at a time, one pencil at a time and a healthy marriage. Same thing. I mean everything that's. I think I wrote in my notes, but I don't know if I read it or not. But everything that matters takes work and it takes consistently showing up and your journey with Jesus. I think I made the point.
Speaker 1:I think the American Christianity has been a conversion gospel. So raise your hand and get saved, and that's the starting point. It's not the finish line. We've kind of treated it like a finish line. Let's just get people saved and get them into church. But it's a journey. That's where it starts. Actually. It started thousands of years ago with the gospel itself. God actually started the whole thing. But anyway, it is a journey with God every day.
Speaker 1:I mean, I remember in college I was doing a documentary for our campus ministry on faith on campus at the University of Tennessee and we were doing all these interviews of students and faculty and I met this man who was a facility physical plant guy and he was literally I think he was doing like hedges or something outside of the theater. So I was a music performance major, so I had a lot of experience around this part of campus. And I walked up to this guy and I just stopped him. I said can I interview you about your faith as a person on campus? He said sure, he was an older gentleman and I just never forget what he said. He was answering questions about his faith and his beliefs on certain things. But then I started asking him about him like tell me about your life and journey with Jesus, and he just said you know what the best thing I can tell you is. I'm not where I should be, but I'm not where I used to be and I'm so thankful God has changed my life so far and that it was honest about what he'd come out of, but it was also hopeful for where he was headed.
Speaker 1:And I think that's how we have to appropriate ourselves to Christianity. It's not a conversion gospel, it's a discipleship. Actually, the Great Commission says go in all the world and make disciples. It doesn't say go make converts. So this is about that journey, that journey with Jesus, and it is one day at a time. For the rest of your life. You'll have wins and you'll have losses and fails and successes and all of that but just keep showing up.
Speaker 2:So, as for you know, you start. You said that you started asking that gentleman about him. So let's take away LifePoint, let's strip away Pastor Mike Burnett, dr Mike Burnett, even even husband, dad, all of that. What does that next step look like for you personally? Like what's yours?
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, and I've actually recently talked with our staff about that. We don't substitute working for God with a relationship with God, and it's very easy to most common convictions that ministry people have, like professional ministers or people on staff at a church is we so easily compromise our personal relationship with Jesus with our regular work for his church, and I've been guilty of that. I know our team, we've all struggled with that, and so I think keeping it in front of our team has been really helpful. We talk about it a lot, but what's next for me?
Speaker 1:I actually find myself going back to things I said at first when I became a Christian. So I was saved at 17. And I remember early on learning I'm just going to carry an attitude that I'll do whatever God asks me to do, whatever he wants me to do. Well, we caveat that the older we get and the more comfortable of a life we build, and so I'll say I'll do whatever you want me to, lord, as long as I don't have to move before my kids graduate high school, as long as I don't have to sell my house or be uncomfortable. I mean, come on for real, like I've earned this right to be at this stage of my walk with God.
Speaker 2:Cushy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I'm going back to those statements and I'm telling the Lord and I'm telling my, I'm saying in front of my kids and they're even going what why are you talking like this, dad? Because I want to be ever available for God to redirect his assignment on my life. That's one thing. I'm just restating those things that I said at first. You know, it's interesting when you, when you've been in ministry a long time, I feel like people that are called to ministry are people that God said I can trust you before you were in ministry. Like he proved whether and we see a lot of our dream team or interns or some of our leadership people, our leadership academy they're just walking in faithfulness Right, and that's who the Lord kind of plucks out before nobody starts on a platform, plucks out before nobody starts on a platform.
Speaker 1:You start in serving, you start in faithfulness and I just I think the man that I was before I was ever quote, and I'm using air quotes called into ministry. I had to be a faithful guy to God. I had to just be a guy who was committed to Jesus, to his word, committed to Christ and his word with how I treated others. So I'm trying to get back to some of those kind of first things. In Revelation 2, jesus challenges the Christians at Ephesus that they were doing a lot of the right behaviors but they had abandoned their first love. So I think first love stuff is like really attractive to me right now. I'm also readdressing how I approach the Bible, not like it's that spiritual, but I'm doing something I've never done before. Normally I'm a Bible reader with a pen paper, bible ink pen and then I like to listen to scripture in the message translation. When I exercise, I work out or run, but this year, the last two months, I'm handwriting.
Speaker 2:I'm scribing the scripture which is you have like a quill and everything. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it only works when you put it to your tongue.
Speaker 2:To your tongue, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I'm transcribing the New Testament and it's a totally different way of approaching the scripture and I'm seeing things I've never seen before.
Speaker 2:And I'm learning things.
Speaker 1:I've never learned before, just nuances in the Bible that I probably read over but didn't catch, because love kind of stuff. God will do whatever you want me to do and trying to come at the Bible in a fresh way, like you've been married now for a season and it's like there was the Michael you met. Then there was the Michael you fell in love with.
Speaker 1:now there's the Michael you're married to and doing life with, and what are fresh ways that you see your husband? And that's what I think we have to just be open to God. What are some fresh ways that I can come to you and see you, Because he never ceases?
Speaker 2:to amaze you. Yeah, ever.
Speaker 1:It's amazing. Is that a helpful answer?
Speaker 2:Absolutely 100% Now. So as a whole, as a life point, so obviously the church or the people, you as our pastor, as our shepherd, but you as our pastor, as our shepherd, what are the next steps that you hope to see come out of this? I know you can say it from the platform over and over again. You know, know God, find freedom, discovery, purpose, make a difference. But as a whole, as a church here, what do you hope to see for the next steps?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Our mission and vision is really what we want for everybody. We just believe in it so much and as a team, we talk about this a lot. The mission is the thing we do and the vision statements are the four things is how we do that one thing.
Speaker 1:So our mission really is to lead people to be fully devoted to Christ, and I'm consistently convinced that people have room to grow in their devotion to Christ, myself included. Every believer has room to grow in their devotion, and devotion is not perfection, devotion is just orientation, right? So like I'm devoted to my wife, but I'm not a perfect husband, but I am faithfully committed to her and I'm oriented towards her when it comes to relationships with other people, money, spending the life we're building I don't take vacations without her. I mean I'm devoted to her, committed, I'm in covenant, and so I mean the big picture is we desperately want everyone to have that mindset that I'm fully surrendered, fully devoted to Christ and the way that we've built our church is we really believe that those are next steps for every Christian. Be faithful in your Sunday attendance, be a part of the Sunday experience. Be in small groups, because it's good for you. There's nothing about that that's going to be hard for you, it's going to be good. It might be hard in that it challenges you and causes you to you know, accountability and conviction, all that kind of stuff, but it's going to be good for you. We want people to discover God and discover their church, discover themselves in the church under God and then serve others by serving on Dream Team. I mean those four things honestly, if we can move the entire church in that direction. No church has 100% participation and I just think God would want it different than that. So those are real like. We absolutely think everybody has next steps there.
Speaker 1:People also need to grow in generosity, grow in their prayer life, grow in fasting and other spiritual disciplines. But it's because this is part of the journey. Like I was a believer, a follower of Christ for five years before I ever fasted, before I'd ever heard teaching on fasting, and so that wasn't something I started right away, I just I learned it later and now I can't even imagine not starting January without 21 days of fasting. I haven't had a birthday party in almost 20 years because I'm fasting during my birthday every year. But I think all those spiritual disciplines are valuable.
Speaker 1:I think having a Christ-centered, bibliocentric, oriented life, that's what I want for our church more than anything in the world and that's what it looks like to live fully devoted followers of Christ. And the way we measure that I mean we have some measurables we actually don't count hands raised for salvation, which is why we don't end every service with raise your hand, go to the side room, get you a Bible and then check a box. We actually count small groups, growth track and dream team those are discipleship things. And people starting to give Like every time somebody gives for the first time at LifePoint, I sign a letter in my office. That's not a stamp, that's not some intern signing, that's me and I thank God for every one of those first-time givers, not because their money, it's because it's a discipleship move for them. So it's growth for them, it's a movement of their heart and their behaviors and it's one of the greatest wins in their life under Christ.
Speaker 1:So I don't know how much they gave, and very often it's just dear first name, so I don't even necessarily know who they are. But I'm so grateful that it's a tangible way of counting their movement.
Speaker 2:I know that was one of the hardest. First that that that was seriously one of the hardest steps for me whenever I was a single mom for forever was actually stepping into the limelight of tithing and generosity and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Why was that hard and how did it change tithing?
Speaker 2:and generosity and stuff like that. Why was that hard and how did it change? I think because you know, I totally just fell underneath that single mom category of I really didn't have anything. And why do I want to give this big, beautiful building of a church that has all the smoke and mirrors and lights? I mean, you know, LifePoint's been my home since forever, as long as I've been here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and stepping into that of going well, they have everything, you know what are they going to need, and changing that mindset of, well, it's not them that I'm giving it to, it's God having my obedience as the next step. And, man, things changed. Things changed.
Speaker 1:Which, when you were, I remember those days for you. I mean, of course, we've known each other a long time. You've always been a generous person in other ways generous with your time, generous with praise. I remember when you were working for a food distribution service, like you hooked me up with some food product one time because I was asking you about it.
Speaker 1:It was that white cheese, and I think you bought me or gave me a block of it, so it's not like you weren't a generous person. You just found generosity in other ways. But then there's obedience in generosity. That's different and I get it. I grew up with a single mom myself and I think the mindset piece that you're mentioning is really an important distinction to make.
Speaker 2:It's not like you fell into a ton of money one day. I just gave what I could 100 and yeah that was, that was fun. I will never forget the, the, the, the white cheese.
Speaker 1:It's still the bomb.
Speaker 2:It really is. I love it. We need to make it again.
Speaker 1:It's a guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think it's good if you're on a low carb diet too. I think you can still knock it out it's cheese it's good, yeah, yeah, dip them in. That's the problem, all right.
Speaker 2:Just having all of it. Okay, so, um, so can you discuss how true freedom requires the right boundaries and about being slaves to Christ? Can you go into, I mean honestly, what's right boundaries and what's wrong boundaries? You know it's like you say that, but can you dive?
Speaker 1:in. Yeah, I think I described it in the third and fourth service as the greatest oxymoron in the Bible that in order to be free, you become a slave to Christ. Now, most people, if they're honest, they're in bondage already. They're in bondage to themselves, their sin culture, keeping up with whatever Everybody finds. I mean, we're just, we're wired to worship, which means we're wired to service to something right, to give something credit that we follow or we value highly. But the only way to find real freedom nobody's free like from. I mean, the matrix taught us that right.
Speaker 1:I've recently watched that movie again. It's actually pretty brilliant, writing the first one especially. But there's no freedom in this world we live in, in the culture. I mean we kind of get into this system, this engineered system of go to school, go to college, get a job, pay your bills, cycle, repeat, teach your kids to repeat that cycle. But this kingdom of heaven is so unique and it's lorded over by its king, who is Jesus. So in Matthew 4, jesus goes around all the sea of Galilee cities teaching and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom. It's the first time the Bible ever talks with that kind of language and, essentially, the gospel of the kingdom, the good news of this kingdom is God's the king and you're not. But every nation sets up kingdoms right on the earth and then within those kingdoms we have cultural kingship, cultural rules, and Jesus is saying I'm coming to set up a new kingdom where I'm king, and so in order to find the true freedom, the life that God has for us, you got to be a part of that kingdom. It's not a kingdom of rules, it's a kingdom of relationship. It's not a kingdom of obligations and duties and dues and cult, prostitution and sacrificial systems any longer. It's a kingdom built on his sacrifice, where he gets to reign on the throne, and the throne is our heart. Jesus said it that there'd be a day he's quoting Isaiah, and then the writer of Hebrews talks about this that there'd be a day that the laws of God are not written on tablets, they're written on our hearts. And so again, I'm getting really deep in the theological weeds here.
Speaker 1:But the greatest irony of the New Testament is that to find freedom, you become a slave to Jesus. So what that means is essentially he's the Lord of my finances, he's the Lord of my sex life. He's the Lord of my sex life. He's the Lord of my Sunday mornings. He's the Lord of my job. I'm not going to take a job that he wouldn't be pleased with. He's the Lord of my schedule. He's the Lord.
Speaker 1:When we talk about being fully devoted followers of Jesus, then the nuancing of that goes okay, well, I'm devoted to Jesus for my afterlife, but what about this life? Okay, more specifically, is he Lord of your marriage? Is he Lord of your friendships? Is he Lord of your work-life balance? Is he Lord of your calendar? Is he Lord of your budget? And the Bible talks about all those things in the new covenant, right. So this kingdom has a king and he's got a way, and we want to help people discover that. And when you do it God's way, there's real freedom there, and the freedom is to live in a way that pleases Him.
Speaker 1:My favorite verse of the New Testament is Philippians 1.27. It says whatever happens, which is everything. Everything is whatever happens, right. Whatever happens, whether it's good day, bad day, sunday, tuesday, thursday it doesn't matter Whether you're married, divorced, single, single again. Whatever happens Going to global conflict, the economy's crashing, harris is president, trump's president whatever happens, you live in a way that pleases the gospel, that honors the gospel. That's life under the kingship of Christ, then I have tons of freedom to live as unto the Lord. I mean it's a great theory, it's just hard to do.
Speaker 2:It's so hard to do. It is it?
Speaker 1:is. It is, which is why we need small group accountability, absolutely, which is why we need a pastor who will call us to serve Christ and repent of sin and submit to the will of God. Yeah, which is why we read the Bible, do what it says, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:All the things and you're not called to be perfect. God didn't say now that you're a Christian, I expect you to get this perfect all the time, but we're called to grow in maturity. I think the text I read in the sermon today 2 Corinthians 3, 18? No, no, it's Ephesians 4. God's given apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers for the equipping of the saints, until we all reach maturity, knowledge of God and unity in the maturity. Knowledge of God and unity in the faith. Knowledge of God and maturity. So God doesn't expect you to be perfect, but he wants you to grow and get better and mature. That's the process.
Speaker 2:Is the process. Could the process be painless?
Speaker 1:That's a good question, I think, because our world is painful. You're going to experience pain, but I don't think God causes pain.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:God doesn't have bad for us. He has good for us. Sometimes it's painful when you have to break off a relationship because it doesn't honor God. Or it's painful when you become a tither for the first time and you're going. Yeah, you're like, wow, this is uncomfortable. Um, so that I mean it may cause pain because you're really adjusting your disobedience to obedience. But no, I don't think God inflicts pain on us or causes pain on us. But it can definitely have its challenges. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's worth it that we inflict on ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I recently did. I don't know how much time we have left, but-.
Speaker 1:I have no idea, I'll say this very briefly, Off the rails. I recently did a talk for this community event and it'll be online soon. But anyway, I talked about how my daughter got sick one time on a deep sea fishing trip and the captain of the boat said hey, we're going to move the boat and we're going to stare at the horizon. And I use that as an allegory or a parable, if you will, because it was a secular environment and they said don't preach the gospel. I was like I don't know how to do that, so I use that move the boat and watch the horizon as a parable for change the circumstances of your life. And the horizon is objectively true, it's what it is.
Speaker 1:It's a fixed position that doesn't change regardless of what's happening here, and I think sometimes what happens is we want to keep our boat where it is and we want to move the horizon to us, but the truth is the kingdom of God is what it is. We need to set our eyes on that and let our lives adjust towards it, and there could be some pain with that, but a lot of times we want God to come into our world instead of we want to enter into his world and his kingdom, and I think I think that's why we need accountability in small groups, because there's people in your small group that have gone before you and have figured out hey, that's the first time, you're tired of being a single mom, but I'm telling you, god will meet you on the other side and you can trust God and I'm going to be there with you and I'm going to cheer with you along the way, and that's part of the benefit of doing life in community, why we have these groups.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love it Real quick, if you could explain this in three sentences your entire sermon that you just— yes, today's that God has more Sure In three sentences. Like you were explaining it to a child, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I would say God has more of himself for you. God has more freedom and goodness for you. Wait, I can do commas and ands.
Speaker 2:Oh can you.
Speaker 1:No, I'll do short. God has more of himself for you. James 4 says draw near to him, he'll draw near to you. God has more freedom for you and God has great things to do through you. God has way more to do with us than apart from us. Okay, is that good?
Speaker 2:You tell me you were like itching over here. You're trying to like, I really don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to honor your three questions or three sentences. I think that's a good challenge.
Speaker 2:That's the elevator pitch, right I?
Speaker 1:love it. We tell people like you need to be able to say the gospel quick. We're trying to expound on all of Calvin's institutes. Tell people God loves you. God has more for your life.
Speaker 2:God wants to give you more freedom and God wants to do more with you. How's that Boom I like it, I like it.
Speaker 1:So one last question, one last question.
Speaker 2:By the way, this has been a lot of fun. This has been fun. I think I'm supposed to be doing this every week for the rest of it, great For this whole series Maybe. And until unless if I get asked to not do this You're doing great.
Speaker 1:She's awesome, Isn't she? Everybody Full of joy. This is her all the time. By the way, this is her angry face.
Speaker 2:This is my angry face. This is great. I'm terrifying, aren't I? Okay, so one last question. What is one question you wish you would have been asked in this, just for today? What's one thing that you were like man, I wish I would have said this, or man, I wish this could have been brought up, or something? What's the one thing?
Speaker 1:I'm a real practical. Okay, I love theory, but I like to know how it works. So Pastor Chris likes to say part of the job of pastor is make complicated things simple and put the cookies on the bottom shelf right. So I think a question I mean the how to implement this stuff questions are really fun for me. I don't think a lot of people like those questions because it requires change.
Speaker 1:So how do I love my wife more? How do I be faithful to my family more? Well, maybe you have to stop this, this, this and this and reorient your life. I don't want to do that. Right, most people are living the life they want because they've built the habits that they have and now they're living this life. They don't want to change. People don't like change. I think I would have liked some practice. I mean, I'm not telling you to do this, but I'm saying I personally love, and maybe this is why the small group environment is so great. How do I overcome a porn addiction? How do I overcome greed? How do I orient my relationship unto the Lordship of Christ, because I've never done this before? Oh well, your small group leader is going to answer that for you or this other person. Those are the questions and conversations that just fire me up, because I love just getting kind of in the nitty gritty with people. I like it.
Speaker 2:So the how to questions the nitty gritty yeah, like nitty gritty dirt band. That's a lot of fun. I don't know who that is, it's fine.
Speaker 1:I have this quote from Nacho Libre playing in my the nitty gritty. It's the nitty gritty, yeah, jack Black. I don't know if we of that movie or not, but anyway, oh my goodness Well thank you, thanks for this.
Speaker 2:Hey, no, thank you. Thank you so incredibly much and listeners, we love you so incredibly much. Thank you for tuning in. Do not forget to go over this with your small group Small group and small groups. Go to your small groups, best thing we do Small groups and small groups.
Speaker 1:She works for the small groups department.
Speaker 2:Small groups Yay, discipleship, small groups. But until next week, guys. We will see y'all later. We love you. Peace out.
