Unfiltered & Unapologetic: What Women Really Want in a Man

The gloves come off in this no-holds-barred conversation about dating preferences, celebrity crushes, and the often unspoken expectations we have for potential partners. Three women, (Andrea, Carmen and Ash) reveal their unfiltered thoughts on what attracts them to men and what sends them running in the opposite direction.  (Original air date 11.24.2021)

The chemistry between the hosts creates an atmosphere where nothing is off-limits as they dive into their celebrity crushes - with Chris Hemsworth, Bruce Willis, Idris Alba, Lenny Kravitz and Keanu Reeves sparking passionate debate. But it's not just about famous faces; the conversation reveals how specific their preferences truly are, from body types to grooming habits to personality traits.

Balding men, back hair, and personal grooming become hot topics as the women share their honest opinions about male maintenance. "Balding is fine, but don't try to act like you have hair," one host declares, while another firmly states that back hair makes her "want to vomit." Yet beneath these seemingly superficial preferences lies a deeper discussion about authenticity versus pretense, and how honesty about one's appearance reflects character.

The most revealing moments come when discussing boundaries and respect in relationships. One host's firm stance against dating married men—"I would never hurt another woman on purpose"—sparks reflection on how personal values shape dating choices. Meanwhile, another's admission that she's "high maintenance" leads to laughter and self-awareness about how their standards have evolved over time.

Whether you're currently dating, in a relationship, or just enjoy candid conversations about human connection, this episode offers both entertainment and insight into how attraction works. Join us for this unfiltered look at dating preferences—you might recognize your own dealbreakers or be inspired to reconsider what truly matters when looking for a partner.

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Transcript

Celebrity Crushes Revealed

Carmen Lezeth 0:05

oh my god, oh my god, oh so people, oh, you know what?

Ash Pauls 0:08

it's weird.

Carmen Lezeth 0:10

She's being very nice, but her name is andrea, okay, yeah. Yeah, I guess she doesn't care, but I call her ons. I call her ons, like o-n-s. I don't know if she wants other people to call her ons, I'll call her andrea. Yeah, do you care if other people call you ons, or is that just? Uh, well, I'm not really your family because I'm not going to hawaii, so, whatever, I guess everyone can call you whatever they want.

Andrea Nunez 0:33

I want to go to hawaii uh, it's weird if people, if it's not organic, let's put it that way yeah, okay.

Carmen Lezeth 0:41

So, ash, you want to go to hawaii with me in like a couple months, without andrea? I think we should do that. Yeah, I think it's just weird, andrea, what are you thinking about? Andrea's like?

Andrea Nunez 0:54

I'm over this story I'm just reading the comment. No, I'm I'm very happy to hear that you're not in pain anymore. I mean, that's what I've been asking you every time that I see you like does it hurt, are you still in pain anymore? I mean, that's what I've been asking you every time that I see you, like, does it hurt, are you still in pain? Yeah, I know.

Carmen Lezeth 1:08

I'm actually like I wish I could cancel my appointment to Dr Gerhard, who you know I have to go see in December. But I don't need to see him, I'm good. Why do you want to cancel?

Andrea Nunez 1:19

it though.

Carmen Lezeth 1:19

Because you know the trauma of always going over there is hard. It's not hard.

Ash Pauls 1:24

I just don't want to go, it's like a checkup for after the surgery.

Carmen Lezeth 1:29

Yeah, we were supposed to, because I didn't want to go. I had a phone conversation with him. His assistant set up a phone conversation and so we had a phone conversation like a month ago, a month and a half ago, it was the eight week, whatever and I was like, okay, well, thank you, dr G, it was nice to talk to you and I'll see you in a year, because I knew I had to go see him in a year after surgery. And he was like yo, wait up what's happening here. And I was like, yeah, I'm done right, I don't need to call you for anything, and he in and we have to do a three month checkup. But I think he did that because I didn't go in last time, probably.

Andrea Nunez 2:08

It's important for him, I'm sure, to be able to see what your progress is. Yeah, that's kind of what he said he said he's hot.

Carmen Lezeth 2:19

Yeah, he's hot. Yeah, he is hot, but we didn't like him before, so it didn't matter that he was hot.

Andrea Nunez 2:26

Yeah Well we didn't know he had the mask on.

Carmen Lezeth 2:29

Yeah, but he's got a nice body and he's tall and he's got all them things happening. But yeah, he had a mask on.

Andrea Nunez 2:35

What I said. He's athletic looking right.

Carmen Lezeth 2:39

He's athletic looking, yeah Well you know what I learned? What I learned is because, you know, I did my research and then I had my second opinion with Dr Yoon, who also is the same thing. A lot of orthopedic surgeons not all of them, but a lot of them used to be jocks, right, so they choose to go into a different like because he's a sports orthopedic surgeon, right. He handles mostly soccer teams and whatever Soccer stuff all over the walls, yeah, and he has, like that picture with Tiger Woods or whatever.

Andrea Nunez 3:09

Soccer players have great bodies, I have to say.

Carmen Lezeth 3:12

What who? Soccer players? Oh, yeah, soccer players. Yeah, cause I know so many of them and I watch soccer. I do not, I do not. But yeah, watch it for the dudes, watch it for the dudes, watch it for the dudes, yeah, sports is not.

Andrea Nunez 3:28

I dated a soccer player when I was in high school.

Carmen Lezeth 3:31

I'm not surprised by this, yeah for a half second. But look at, james is like, incidentally, a coach to soccer for 16 years. I'm dying laughing. That's actually funny, james, aren't you married? James is married, as am I. Oh okay, football players have tight buns. When we say football, we mean soccer, right yeah?

Ash Pauls 3:58

I think it means football, football, but yeah.

Carmen Lezeth 4:02

Yeah, I don't know about men crashing into each other.

Ash Pauls 4:05

That does nothing for me yeah, they're like they end up smashing their heads into each other and then they end up with like alzheimer's early. I don't want to deal with that.

Carmen Lezeth 4:12

Yeah, I know yeah, although I wouldn't push a hot football player away, you know, just for the enjoyment of the moment is what I'll say. Like Tom Brady, I don't care what any of you say, I don't want to hear nothing. That boy is fine, fine With a Y, f-y-n-e. He does nothing for me, absolutely. That's not your type, but you and I have very different tastes. What's your flavor, ash? What kind? I know, andrea and I, we are completely. Yes, kevin, he does have a nice ass. I know that's what you meant. Okay, ash, who like what celebrity? So we can get an idea of your flavor.

Ash Pauls 5:00

I like, honestly like mine. I don't like for me. I don't like guys that are shorter than me by seven and I don't like guys who are skinny and like scrawny, because I don't want to feel like the more masculine of the two.

Carmen Lezeth 5:13

I want to feel, you know, like protected or whatever, and then Andrea likes skinny guys who are rockers, rockers, rock stars or musicians, I would have said that in like 1987 or something look at kevin selma hayek.

Athletic Men and Dating Standards

Carmen Lezeth 5:31

He didn't even put none. James, I am married for 20 years. I love to flirt with all humans. My wife knows that and I like to say I can look at the menu, I just can't order anything. I think we talked about this last time. I don't mess with married men the minute I know. That's why you know it's so funny. My surgeon, like, even when I first met him, well, I mean, I had so many issues going into this, so like the last thing I was thinking about was like let me see how hot the people like I was in trauma mode about my pain, but on top of it I saw his ring. The minute you know what I mean. Like in the minute that happens, I'm out. I don't even look at married men. It just does nothing for me and it's not some like high quality, like oh, Carmen, you're so on. Hell, no, I would never hurt another woman on purpose.

Ash Pauls 6:21

Never Go to the guy and the guy's wife. It's respect all the way around.

Carmen Lezeth 6:26

Oh, now I see what's happening. James just said Andrea looks like my wife a little Hell.

Andrea Nunez 6:33

He talked about this last time too. I have that face where I look like you know. No, no, james is being very specific.

Carmen Lezeth 6:40

Ash. So what celebrity are we looking at for you? Name a few, name a few, so we get a flavor.

Ash Pauls 6:47

Bruce Willis. I think he's hot, even old Bruce. Willis is like 100 years old. I totally agree. Even at this age he's hot, and Chris Hemsworth.

Carmen Lezeth 7:00

Oh, okay, I'm right there with you, yay.

Ash Pauls 7:04

I don't think he's cute. Who? I don't like Brad Pitt? I don't think that's cute. Okay, that's weird. And he gets worse as he gets older. It's not cute.

Carmen Lezeth 7:15

I'm so confused because I feel like Chris Hemsworth, brad Pitt, robert Redford are all kind of the same kind of man, you know what I mean. They have that same blonde look thing. Are all kind of the same kind of man. You know what I mean. They have that same blonde look thing. I think they're all good looking, but, wow, you think I think brad pitt is getting better looking. Let me just could I interrupt for one moment. Let me just say, after watching the eternals and I have never said this about any other woman, but let me tell you, and I am definitely a cis, is that what you say? Cis, heterosexual, whatever heterosexual woman who loves men? But Angelina Jolie, I'm like, why are you so beautiful? I don't understand how gorgeous. And in the movie she's gorgeous.

Ash Pauls 7:56

I just hate for how she looks, but I think there's way more girls than that To me. You know how we look at it, like oh, I really love her eyes. Like I wish I had eyelashes like that. Or like you know something that you would want to see in some way.

Carmen Lezeth 8:12

No, oh, I think she's gorgeous. Okay, who do you think is gorgeous as a woman? I don't know.

Ash Pauls 8:17

I just don't like the big like fish lips thing. Weird, I don't like that.

Carmen Lezeth 8:22

I think those are her natural lips, though Andrea's not saying one word. I think those are her natural lips. Those are her natural lips, though.

Ash Pauls 8:31

Yeah, that I appreciate because it is. I've seen her since she was pretty young and I think they are. But okay, who do I think for women?

Carmen Lezeth 8:39

And their daughter Brad Pitt's daughter and Angelina Jolie's daughter is absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, kevin, halle Berry is gorgeous.

Ash Pauls 8:48

I think is really pretty.

Carmen Lezeth 8:50

Yeah, I'm waiting for Andrea. She's like saying nothing.

Andrea Nunez 8:57

Well, yeah, angelina Jolie is definitely gorgeous, as is Halle Berry. I'm trying to think of who I would. I don't know. When you ask like, nobody comes to mind.

Carmen Lezeth 9:07

Well, I mean other than myself, other than you, carmen Eve the rapper, beautiful, yes, oh, look at James working his magic, I think, andrea. Carmen Ash is a gorgeous woman, okay no, that's not gonna make up for it. No.

Andrea Nunez 9:23

I feel like I'm at a bar right now.

Carmen Lezeth 9:25

I know, right, that's the whole point we're at a bar. If I think of a woman that is not just gorgeous but a great talent, I think of someone like Angela Bassett, who just should have won a couple of Oscars way before Haley Berry, by the way. I think Haley Berry is wonderful, but I saw that performance in Monster, and when I think of Angela Bassett not that we have to compare these two women, just women of color and Oscar winning I look like Sam Greer. Thank you, I'm going to take that as a compliment. People used to say I looked like Jennifer Beals, which used to piss me off because that was my role in Flashdance and I would have never been able to audition for that role. Okay, so men wise. Wow, that's so weird, ash. Because I was. I was thrown byuce willis, then I gave you back when you said chris hemsworth, and then thrown again by brad pitt. So I still haven't gotten your flavor yet.

Ash Pauls 10:22

I don't know picky, like I don't know, like to me I would date a regular guy who was chubby, as long as, like, it's about the face. For me I don't care about the body, if it's bigger, if it's tone, I don't care about that.

Andrea Nunez 10:38

Like.

Ash Pauls 10:38

I'd rather just a regular looking guy, body wise, but it's the face.

Carmen Lezeth 10:43

Yeah, I'm just saying he has to be an Avenger, that's the, that's. I'm just yeah, he totally does, he has to be there we go and Jason Momoa, Can we have all of that please?

Andrea Nunez 10:59

I mean just Lenny Kravitz with no shirt on. Let's just do that all day, please.

Ash Pauls 11:04

They have long hair and they are definitely both men, yeah.

Andrea Nunez 11:08

I like long hair Keanu Reeves. I also like Jack Black. Jack Black is funny as shit, though Funny is important?

Angelina Jolie and Female Beauty

Carmen Lezeth 11:17

Yeah, I don't think Money Did you just say, money is important, funny Money.

Ash Pauls 11:23

Funny. He would be a rock star, but I think he'd almost be like hard to have a serious conversation with. You know, he has one of those faces where you just start laughing like Bubbles from Trailer Brook Boys Like that.

Carmen Lezeth 11:37

Just look at them and start giggling the second they come on yeah, I don't care about funny I don't think that's seriously, no, no, I mean you know like to me there's just that there's gonna be a natural. I don't think I'm funny, but people say I'm funny all the time. I just I'm saying like I think there's a natural thing that happens. I don't want a comedian, I don't.

Ash Pauls 11:59

I want a guy. Okay, my family.

Carmen Lezeth 12:01

Well, I want someone who's performative.

Ash Pauls 12:02

Okay, don't talk over, ash. I'm sorry, it's okay, but my family, when we're having Christmas dinner with all these crazy drunken newbies, you got to be, whether you're a little kid just learning to walk or, like you know, grandparents, that's like on the way out. If someone turns on music, you have to be willing, in no matter where you are in the house, just to drop everything and bust a move. No matter how bad you are, you just got to do it and have fun, and to me, that's something unique and different. I want a guy. That's something unique and different.

Carmen Lezeth 12:43

I want a guy that's dancing, though that will just jump up and start like dancing like a goofball with my, with my stepmom or whoever. To me that would be the ultimate right there. Okay, but when you said funny, when Andrea said funny, that's not what I. That, to me, is more. You know someone who's spontaneous and can just live life Like I think funny, like I could never date someone like a Jack Black or like a Jim Carrey, I mean for so many reasons. Like I would never want to date someone who's continuously funny and making jokes. It's just not my thing. But funny is just part of the personality.

Ash Pauls 13:07

Yeah, like I like that type of person to watch on TV, but if they were like that all the time, no, that's too much.

Carmen Lezeth 13:12

I actually would like someone who's more serious. I'm being I'm being honest. I like someone who's athletic, serious, um, these would be like. I mean, I'm open to any of it actually, but like, if I think of the guys that I've dated in the past. Carmen wants a bit vin diesel is not my type, but more so than not for sure not oh, but vin diesel does nothing for me, because he's too wait, what'd you say?

Ash Pauls 13:40

I said as long as he keeps his mouth shut, he's good yeah, he's too brutish to me.

Carmen Lezeth 13:45

He's too brute.

Ash Pauls 13:46

I don't like the brute news I like a guy who appears like you said brian. Oh, it's brian, no kevin. It said no one likes nice guys. I like guys who appear all aggressive and manly but treat me like a princess. So yeah, it's chris hemsworth. It's Brian O'Kevin. It says no one likes nice guys. I like guys who appear all aggressive and manly but treat me like a princess.

Carmen Lezeth 13:58

So, yeah, it's Chris Hemsworth, it's Chris Hemsworth If he wasn't like, like, if he was more 40-ish, like a 40-something. Chris Hemsworth is the part he's big, he's muscular, he's great, but he's funny, he's adorable. You know he has a great wife and kids, which makes him even sexier. You know what I mean. It makes him more like. You can see he could be a serious family man. He has a business.

Ash Pauls 14:23

Matt Damon's called Daniel Craig. He's kind of hot for his age. Yeah, I think he's cute, matt Damon.

Carmen Lezeth 14:28

I would never date Matt Damon.

Ash Pauls 14:30

I just can't stand him or the other one, Agree Rick, because not all the funny people actually are happy.

Carmen Lezeth 14:38

It's sort of a face they're putting on we all thought Robin Williams was funny, but clearly he was not.

Andrea Nunez 14:44

Yes, rick, he reminds me of, well to say, jim Carrey, kind of reminds me a little bit of Robin Williams, where it's like funny all the time, Always. You know it's performatively funny, as opposed to Carmen, like me and you. We get on the phone and laugh our asses off for two hours. Right, right, right, that's fun, that's funny, you know. It's not someone who's constantly trying to make me laugh.

Carmen Lezeth 15:06

Right, yeah, I think there's just a natural thing to it. I maybe misunderstood what you said, but funny just isn't even on my list. I actually like someone who's a lot more serious. It's just, I know, like when I think of funny, I think of it a different way. I'm serious enough. I don't need someone serious. Yeah, I just. I don't know if it's You're so mean, andrea, it's not serious.

Carmen Lezeth 15:30

I know who you dated and I know your husband. I'm going to knock you down every time. Knock you down every time. She's never coming back after this. She's never coming back. Who's Jane Marini?

Ash Pauls 15:47

Because performing funny is different than being just organically funny. When you're around people and having fun, naturally then acting, and so they should be doing stand-up in that moment oh, no hard.

Carmen Lezeth 16:00

No on the henry cavill too. I don't see what people think is so hard about him. Cavill, cavill, whatever his life, he's superman. He does nothing for me well, and he isn't he like super hardcore right wing, whatever the fuck, I don't even know.

Andrea Nunez 16:15

Well, we can't get into politics.

Carmen Lezeth 16:16

Right, I can't separate it. Yeah, me neither. But brian is right wing, kind of sort of. Well, I'm just saying yeah um, how about, um, how did you guys feel about george clooney? I never was interested in him, but I do think he married up.

Andrea Nunez 16:32

I do think he married up really, yeah, which is, which is what he should have done. He's charming. To me, that's someone who's funny, the right kind of funny. He's charming, he's funny yes.

Carmen Lezeth 16:42

Okay, that I can agree with. Yeah, but wait, ash, what did you say?

Ash Pauls 16:47

He's handsome, but not for me. He's not for me either. Other people would like him, but I don't. Yeah, Matt Damon's cool.

Carmen Lezeth 16:58

I really like him, but I don't want to date him. What's his other one there, also from Boston, he's the Batman, which I think he's the worst Batman. What's his name? Netflix, nothing for me, he's nothing.

Ash Pauls 17:09

He's too jockey. He's that typical boy. You went to high school with that boyish.

The Perfect Type of Man

Carmen Lezeth 17:14

They just do nothing for me at all. Like I really like a specific kind of guy. They have to be clean-cut, manly but adorable. Like I want the perfect manly but adorable. Like Idris Elba really was fire for me when I first saw him because he's clean-cut, but then he got married so I was like and I'm done. Now I'm just trying to think who else I would be totally Chris Hemsworth again if he was older. Andrea ruined Brad Pitt for me. Look at James Sorry, I'm married because you made a good point. He is kind of he seems like he might be kind of dumb. I can't say that he is because he's an executive producer and some of the most amazing work. But oh, look at andrea. Okay, we're not going to talk about brad pitt because clearly I have a lot of respect but, agreed though yeah, yeah, jesus, even the best pole vaulter can't hit that bar y'all claim to one.

Carmen Lezeth 18:19

It's very true, that's true. I ain't even gonna, and you know what?

Andrea Nunez 18:23

Brian, this isn't you know. We're just out here. Oh, I'm not dreaming.

Carmen Lezeth 18:28

I'm being exactly on point. The bar is so high it's not even a question for me. That's why I'm single and I take responsibility for that. Yeah, my sister likes the dude from Bridget. Yeah, but he's like a child. He does nothing for me. I forget his real name. Start investing in jetpacks. Brian's all angry. Oh, we all love Keanu.

Andrea Nunez 18:55

Everybody loves Keanu.

Carmen Lezeth 18:56

Nothing wrong with keanu yeah oh, ash, ash is gonna negate. I still don't know what ash's type is. You don't like keanu?

Ash Pauls 19:06

Like I think I can see where other people would really like him and there's moments where he's gorgeous and then other times where it's just doesn't do nothing.

Andrea Nunez 19:14

He just had a new photo shoot drop. Yeah, he did.

Carmen Lezeth 19:20

Here's the thing about. Okay, there are certain men, Andrea, you and I have talked about this before. There are certain men. They may not be your type, but they got all kinds of sex appeal. What's the guy from Law Order? We all love him. What's his name? The guy from Law Order, SVU, the bald guy With the nice ass, With the nice oh, shout out to his ass, but everybody loves him. He's not my type, but totally sex appeal. And also Jean-Luc Picard was a big one for me growing up. Yeah, he's like bald and old, but there was something sexy about Jean-Luc Picard, Like there are just certain men Look at Ash is like absolutely I am not on board with that.

Ash Pauls 20:06

Little to no hair, but I don't want it to be like it's been buff smooth and it shines off. He's bald, it's not his fault. No, but I don't like it. It's gross. But wait why do you like Bruce Willis as bald as all hell? It's not the same. It's like. I don't like this kind of thing. It's oily and gross. Oh my God.

Carmen Lezeth 20:33

I'm sorry. Okay, ash, you have now revealed your high-maintenance life. I was like she likes bald guys. Now you're like absolutely not. It cannot be shiny. Yeah, you know what? Maya.

Andrea Nunez 20:44

You talk really hard. You need a modifier on your head. She's all excited about them.

Ash Pauls 20:50

If you're balding, whatever this is, guys, do don't do that, just shave it. Whatever this extra stuff is, yes, Rick Costa's apologizing to James.

Carmen Lezeth 21:02

Rick Costa's like sorry, james, because James is balding, right, or he is balding, it's shiny.

Ash Pauls 21:08

It doesn't have the oily, greasy shine that.

Andrea Nunez 21:17

I need to make sure I put some powder on before I. I know I got worried.

Carmen Lezeth 21:21

I got a little Ash is like. So, ash, can you tell me what I can do to look better, please? I have a shot, let me see if I can change my my lighting. But Rick Costa, andrea, you should know Rick, but I will also tell you that he again, I'm giving you just a little bit of flavor, although it doesn't matter if you follow people right now, because you follow that none of us are following. But Rick is really cool, but he is very religious in the Jesus form. So I'm just giving you a heads up. Well, no, because I know you have issues with a lot of different types, like I do but, yeah, but he's cool, but he's cool, he's cool.

Carmen Lezeth 22:08

Shiny, happy people, Eric, oh my God, you're like Ed Norton in American History X. That look, did you like that? Ash? Mike is really trying to find someone for you, yul.

Andrea Nunez 22:20

Brynner.

Balding Men and Dealbreakers

Carmen Lezeth 22:27

She won't know who that is. I'm not bald. I'm not bald. I'm not bald. I'm excited that, as I'm getting older and my boobs are drooping, I have huge boobs, which I know. Whatever, I cannot be mad at men for having balding issues, like you know what I mean. Like I, I've let that go.

Andrea Nunez 22:49

I don't care if men are bald or hairy Balding is fine, but don't try to act like you have hair. That's the part that's so the co-worker has to go. What about back hair? Just take it all off. It's better for everybody involved.

Ash Pauls 23:04

But I said, if a guy has a carpet on his back he should be slapped.

Andrea Nunez 23:17

I think that's a no-go. I don't mind chest hair, body hair, but back hair like that makes me want to vomit. You don't want to do anything like a fucking aggressive about it.

Carmen Lezeth 23:20

You know what's so funny? I'm just loving hearing you because I realize that I am low maintenance compared to you. Like all that stuff is fixable, some men don't even know that they can wax their back or whatever. You know what I mean. Like I'm not worried about you. You just too funny. Exactly, ash, that's a nice transition. To men need to manscape though, come on it's.

Ash Pauls 23:43

You know what, though, women?

Andrea Nunez 23:45

are expected to take care of it all, don't act like you're exempt. If you're a man like take care of it all, don't act like you're exempt.

Carmen Lezeth 23:53

If you're a man Like, take care of your shit. Hi, blaze. Okay, blaze is a hot man, okay, hey, all you beautiful people dropping in to say good morning and hope everyone has a great turkey day tomorrow. Okay, let me tell you why I think Blaze is hot. First of all, blaze came on my show when I was interviewing people, which I will be picking up again.

Ash Pauls 24:08

But he never.

Carmen Lezeth 24:08

He always has on a hat or whatever. But he did his hair and everything. And then he didn't smoke on my show and he just showed such and I didn't ask him to do any of that. And then all of a sudden he went up like 15 levels. I'm like, ooh, blaze is hot. See, like that matters to me. That matters to me when you show who you are, yep.

Andrea Nunez 24:35

I take care of my shit, just um, this discussion is absolutely fascinating. Way back in like the early 2000s, that was that. Uh god, what were they calling guys? No, I didn't hear what you said at first, but back in the early 2000s there was like a, a term for guys who like took care of what the hell. Was it metrosexual, metrosexual?

Carmen Lezeth 24:51

yeah, that's here's my thing. Here's my thing about men and taking care of themselves. I'm all for it, but I don't want to see you doing it right so, and I know that's not fair, but I don't want like. I had this guy I dated once I won't say who he is because Andrea will know. He was like why don't we go get our nails done? I was like, oh hell to the no, I am not going to go and get my nails done with my man. That's just he can go get his nails done at a different time, but that is not something we're going to share together. Yeah, he was way too much. He was so much more high maintenance than I am and I don't even think I'm that much high maintenance when it comes to getting ready or whatever but I just knew it was too much.

Ash Pauls 25:32

No, not at the same time, in the same place as your girl.

Carmen Lezeth 25:37

Yeah, no, no, james, I think it's good for men to take care of themselves, and pedicures are all fine. You deserve to be beautiful and whatever. I just don't want to do it with you as a thing we do together. I want you to come out me not knowing that you did all that work, just like I do Magic. Yeah, this is me naturally when I wake up in the morning. It really is.

Andrea Nunez 25:57

I would go and get manicures and pedicures. Well, I don't do that anyway, but I would go. I just wax. I don't want to be involved with that. Take care of that on your your own, but I'll go get some pedicures. I don't want someone in my massage no, what about joint massages?

Carmen Lezeth 26:17

I don't know what that means. You mean next to each?

Ash Pauls 26:19

other. Yeah, like you each have a bed, you're both getting a massage at the same time are?

Carmen Lezeth 26:26

we on a beach. Wait, wait. Have you taken me to like haw or the beach? I'll do it with you, I'm good.

Andrea Nunez 26:34

Don't get involved with my massage. That's for me. You go, do your thing. I'm going to relax. Okay, james, we can come and sit down together after, but don't be involved in my massage.

Carmen Lezeth 26:45

No, james, it was awkward a little bit. I was getting my back waxed. I walked out of the room and one of my neighbors was getting a pedicure and I was like, hello, no, that's weird. What do they call it? Waxed from the back to the belly? I don't even know. I don't know what that means. Getting waxed on your back and belly, is that a?

Ash Pauls 27:06

thing Right up around your belly.

Manscaping and Personal Grooming

Carmen Lezeth 27:10

That's a lot of hair, but okay, I don't know. Okay, can we talk about what we? Okay, this is how I know I do not do things for a man, cause I am not in a relationship. And during all this surgery and COVID, I was waxing myself. I mean Brazilian style, I did it all myself. I was all up there with my leg up.

Carmen Lezeth 27:33

I was like this is how I know. This is not for no man. Yeah, I could not handle how much hair I had grown. De-wolfification sounds like torture. Eric doesn't know about waxing. Eric doesn't know about waxing. Eric, you don't manscape. There's too much information. That's funny, the wax around. I don't know about the back. Do men have a lot of back hair? Is that a thing? I don't know. I tend to date men who are probably a little bit more metrosexual than I can admit. If I'm thinking about it, yeah, I probably do. But manscapedcom Are you serious? Oh my God. Okay, what is the craziest thing you've done for a date? Okay, I'll answer first. I know what I did, and this was back in the day. Remember, thongs were the thing and I went on a first date and it was the first time I wore a thong and I was like the whole time so uncomfortable you remember that girl, carmen, that that woman that used to go to the waxing woman and she would do like the jewels she would wax.

Andrea Nunez 28:46

Yeah, I didn't do that, but I, you know I went to her to get waxed and I cause you recommended her, but I didn't.

Carmen Lezeth 28:54

She was good, but she's very expensive. She's in Beverly Hills. She still works today, but I don't do. I don't go to her, but yeah, but that I thought was fun If you knew you were going to be enjoying that kind of evening. I'm saying, the first time I wore a thong was the first time I went out on a date, because I thought it'd be sexy and it was the most like for me. I thought I'd feel sexy. It was so wrong and I hated it. I remember being and then we never saw each other again and that never. He never saw that either. It was just like a weird, prettier thing. It was the dumbest thing I ever did and I wore thongs for a while after that. But thongs are just wrong. I I don't know, I don don't like them, I don't even like them.

Ash Pauls 29:32

To be honest with you, I don't think they look that nice. Thongs, yeah, I don't think they look that nice. I think like boy shorts or something cute like that's better on a girl, or just like regular bikini cap, but thongs it's like I don't know, make sure. I wore the thing for a moment. I can't think of anything to prepare for.

Andrea Nunez 29:51

I mean, I would get waxed and stuff, but I'd do that anyway.

Ash Pauls 29:54

That's normal.

Andrea Nunez 29:55

Yeah, that's normal, I did get like a full Brazilian once. I don't do that. But and that was like oh, I'm full Brazilian always. I'm naked completely, in every possible way. This is, I don't know, completely in every possible way.

Carmen Lezeth 30:10

This is, I don't know. No, no, I mean, I think that's the thing is, once you get a Brazilian Ash, you know what a Brazilian is. Right, I'm not trying to be rude, I just don't know if they call it something different in Canada, but once you get a Brazilian, you can't go back. It's true, though.

Ash Pauls 30:21

Yeah, yes, you can. Yes, you can yeah.

Andrea Nunez 30:38

Okay, so we've been like I don't I'm.

Carmen Lezeth 30:39

I am a woman, I am not 10. I do not want to look like wait blazing. You don't know what a brazilian is. Sweet love, is he being funny? I don't know. Brazilian is when you wax, your put in pain completely. So there is no hair down there at all.

Ash Pauls 30:55

Yeah, you just go, completely hairless.

Carmen Lezeth 30:57

Which you're a vajayjay, can I? Say vajayjay on here, not off the top of my head, you completely wax all the hair. So all in there and everywhere in the booty area, all of it. I think I said it as nice as I could possibly is a public service announcement.

Andrea Nunez 31:13

To teach people right.

Carmen Lezeth 31:16

So, um, I don't think it looks like a little kid down there, like what. That's the weirdest thing.

Andrea Nunez 31:22

I think that's weird to say that that's just. I just didn't, i't, I did not like it.

Carmen Lezeth 31:30

No, no, and I will always remember that sex in the city episode. Cause it's so true, like the minute you get a gray hair down there, that's when you know it's over. Like there will never be a hair down there that is gray, so I just pull that shit out. It don't matter, it's out. That's what happens when you get a little older. Do you hear the nether regions? What is it called for? A guy, a ball, zillion. Do men get that waxed, do they?

Andrea Nunez 32:05

Yes, they do, are you kidding? Oh my god, that is so funny. A ball zillion.

Carmen Lezeth 32:10

I don don't know that's so funny. Okay, I think we're going off on a tangent here. I don't know. This was not what I intended for our conversation. Okay, it's not what I intended. All right, everyone, I'll let you guys go um. You guys can remove yourselves, because I don't want to do what. Michael, you know how he like what do they call it Russian flush Like he ends people for them and like they might be like and then they're cut off. All right, take care. Bye, guys, I'm going to. Thanks for stopping by. All About the Joy. Be better and stay beautiful folks. Have a sweet day.