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EP44 - Moving on to IndiraNagar ka Gunda

November 09, 2021 sportscharcha113@gmail.com
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EP44 - Moving on to IndiraNagar ka Gunda
Show Notes Transcript

It's the end of the Kohli-Shastri partnership, as the latter will continue calling India’s historic moments behind the mic while the former joins IndiraNagar ka Gunda to forge a new era in Indian Cricket. Moving from one Managerial change to another in Barcelona and another in NewCastle and another in Tottenham but not in Manchester. An inept display  of surrender against their city rivals in front their home fans is still not good enough to get Ole off the wheel. Best Milan Derby in a longtime,  F1 race heating up and  more glory for Indian Table Tennis. Lets go!


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Participant #1:
Here's a God of the game. It's the end of the Koli Shastri partnership as the later will continue calling India's historic moments behind the mic while the former joins in Rana Kagunda to forge a new era in Indian cricket, moving from one managerial change to another in Barcelona and another in Newcastle and another in Tottenham, but not in Manchester. And enough display of surrender against their city rivals in front of their home fans is still not good enough to get Ole off the wheel. Best Milan Derby in a long time. F one race heating up and more glory for Indian table tennis. Let's go.

Participant #1:
Hello and welcome to episode 44 of Sports Sets. Aware we are back again to talk about what happened in the sports universe. After eating all the Divali sweets and snacks, drank all the alcohol, watched all the games, there were so many managerial changes happened over the last one week. So Isshan, how was Devali? Man Dewali was lovely. A lot of family, a lot of friends. But I'm glad it's over and away. I'm glad to be back to work today. I think after on the second day of my holiday, I thought it's very strange. I am like that. But there are a lot of sports that happened which kept me sane because after a while I get exhausted of family and a lot of drama that happened in the world of football and cricket. So I'm really excited about this episode. So let's get started. Great. So listeners, we are actually trying to evolve this podcast. In fact, in that process we are trying to going back to one episode per week, but a detailed one, much more insightful rather than just being match updates. So here we go with the first edition of I would say the new version of Sportstratcher with the World Cup T 20 that's happening. So we are recording on Monday, 8 November 10:30 p.m. As we are talking, all the group stage games are officially over. India just finished their game against Namibia. They won by nine wickets in a totally inconsequential game. But the last game as viragoli as the captain of the Indian T 20 team and Rabisha three as India's head coach now Isha we know the semifinals right now. Any surprises or any good surprises, bad surprises during this last two, two and a half weeks? Well, I think a pleasant surprise would be seeing Team Pakistan being so consistent and ruthless. I personally thought that the victory against India would be their one and done this tournament because it was such a big win for them. In the first game of the tournament. I thought that they would get carried away, but credit to them, they've actually gone from strength to strength. Four games, four different manner matches. They look like the team to beat. And in fact they are the only unbeaten team in the tournament. So they were a very pleasant surprise the way they played, the talent, everything. They've just been so fun to watch. They're almost like watching Liverpool in its head. They just like, you never know, somebody might do something spectacular. And that's what happened. So amazing. There's been a pleasant site for me. Disappointment, I would say how horrible Western these were. I was surprised because let's not forget, they are the defending Champions of this World Cup, and they have to qualify for it. And I think yesterday we saw the news that they would have to qualify again for the next World Cup because of them not being in the top ten, which is really shocking. They didn't win a game. I think they just won one game against Bangladesh, and that's it. And that's pretty appalling for the squad that they have. Sad note was that this was the last match. Last time we see Dwayne. Bravo and Gail, but we've heard that before, so I don't know how many times you say bye to them. For me, they were the shockingly bad surprise because I didn't expect them to be pummeled so consistently. So, yeah, that was for me, those two. Yeah. But I mean, even though Western days are really bad, Kriscale gave the moment of the World Cup for me after he picked Mitch Marsh's. Cricket, that's a celebration you will never see in a high quality professional cricket match. It said everything about criscal. That one moment encapsulated Chris Gale's four decades of career. It was brilliant to watch. But, yeah, Western, these were very disappointing. They had an exceptional team. Just a small thing, like they actually qualified for this World Cup. For the next World Cup, they will have to play the qualifiers to get selected. And it's a top eight team that goes exactly. It's not very great side to see West Indies having to play the qualifiers to get selected for a T 20. Woke up not even ODA or a test team. But apart from that, I just want to add, did you miss the moment? I think the moment more than the Mitchmash moment was when Chris Kale went into David Waner's pockets to see if there was some sandpaper in it. I didn't see that at all. Really? He did that? Yeah. Oh, God. I highly suspect. Okay. Actually, we should not make any character judgments here because Gayle is a very Jolly guy. He's always been a Jolly guy. So we'll leave it at that. Now let's let go of the surprises and disappointments. I mean, India obviously one of the favorites to be at least to reach the same finals, at least. In fact, India have reached consistently reached ICC Tournaments semifinals ever since the 2012 T 20 World Cup. So after, I think, five or six continuous tournaments, this is the first time India haven't qualified for the semi finals of an ICC Tournament. Now, this is kind of becoming a pattern, right? England, Australia and New Zealand are kind of occupying these three spots all the time. I mean, if you look at that, if you look at the ODI World Cup, it was England, New Zealand, Australia, India. If you look at the World Test Championship, it was the same four team. And now in the T 20 World Cup, just India is not there and you have Pakistan. So these three teams, even though they have these ups and downs. But when it comes to the big tournament, they at least get to this stage very consistently. That shows how professional they are. I feel like I can associate Australia with like a Real Madrid in a knockout tournament. They might have the weakest quad and they actually did for this time. As an Aussie supporter, I was really not confident about them qualifying because they were in a tough group. Let's face it, you have the weakest team on that on paper was Ballade when you had Sri Lanka and West Indies as well, and they made it through that group with just one loss. I was really impressed with that. They are clutched that way when it comes to a knockout tournament. They're there when it matters. I don't see them winning this tournament for sure. Actually, if I have to give predictions, I know you're going to ask me this later. I'm putting my money on an England Pakistan final again, but you never know. Pakistan have revenge on their mind, especially after the last 50 or World Cup. What happened when famous Watson encounter. But let's see, because Pakistan is so strong, but Australia, when it matters, can win any game. Yeah. Before getting into predictions, I just want to throw a little bit of love to a South African team. Actually, I didn't expect them to do this well. In fact, they won four games out of their five, and they actually didn't qualify only because of the net run rate problems. But otherwise they were very impressive, very kind of a disjointed team. I haven't seen this particular group of players played together a lot of games, and I was particularly impressed with Bajuma as the captain. He was really the man in charge. He took very good decisions on the field and really good to see South Africa being back to the South Africa that we have seen over the years. So let's move on to prediction. So Ishan England, New Zealand, Australia, Pakistan? I mean, you kind of gave a hint, England versus Pakistan, but are you sticking to that? I didn't give a hint. I made a categoric statement. I'm pretty sure that's going to happen unless Pakistan finally becomes a Pakistan world. And when the entire world has put money on them to win it, they lose. They're the strongest teams in the tournament so far, England and Pakistan. And I think it would be a great final to watch both of them clash. Just remember, Pakistan has Matthew Hayden in their dressing room and Aussie who will know how the Aussies play their game. So it will be very interesting to see how that dynamic will work out. Australia Justin Langer's, opening partner. That's a very interesting coaching match up. Right. I think we should start looking forward to these coaching matchups next time when these games come up, it will be interesting to see. But on the other side, England, New Zealand, you're going with England. Definitely. See, I think England has just got a massive blow. Jason Roy is out of the match. He is really important in these kind of matches. If you remember the last World Cup in England, he was unbelievable. He literally single handedly got them to the final. That's going to be a big mess. I'm not sure who they replaced him with, but him and Butler was really strong. But New Zealand, okay, they've done just enough. I feel they've not been spectacular and too strong. But that's where I feel England have that edge because they have Butler, who is probably right now the most informed P 20 batsman in the world. And if he has a good game, the match is gone in the first ten over. What if this also goes into a super over?

Participant #1:
That will be the narration. Like you can make a complete Amazon Prime on Netflix documentary. First seen is super losing ODI World Cup and the season ends with New Zealand beating England Cup. I think the director, when it gets really close, will be Williamson saying, don't throw the ball at the stump because somebody might put their back there. Now talk about our team. As I was saying, it's the end of the Koli Shastri era and we are in for a new era, the Rahul Ravid era. I mean, okay, let's before getting into Rahul Ravid, how we both think that he will do or the Indian team will do under him. A bit of word for Ravishadri. I'm going to be honest, I wasn't very confident when he was appointed initially. I had my doubts. I was a big Kombui fan and I was very happy when kumbley was appointed the coach. But then when that whole Jagra happened and then Koli personally wanted Shastri back and I wasn't very sure. See, Shastri may not be a great tactician, but he did have a connect with the player. I think he gave the players an extra Josh to play and that Josh, in my opinion, worked and didn't work at certain times. It worked against Australia, at Sydney, it worked against Australia. Turtlenet like, those are the games at work. Those are the times it worked. But again, that Josh kind of pushed them away from that rational boundary and made them lose their mind at crucial games, that worker semifinals, that Champions Trophy finals against Pakistan. And even here, I feel it's quite an interesting point to make because I think Shastri definitely made us a much better test playing squad. It also coincided with a time where I think we've had the strongest team in years in terms of bench strength, in terms of batting options, that had to help Shastri both in all formats of the game. But yeah, I think when it came down to matches, when we really needed a result, like, as you said, any knockout tournament or even the World Test Championship final, where I was pretty surprised with how we performed and how you beat us, I think that's where I think just being a people's person does not work. You need to be a coach, be a manager where you're actually making hard decisions. I think that's where that would be one of his shortcomings. But I would say it was a pretty successful stint. I wouldn't compare him put him in the League of a Gary Kirsten, who for me was an unbelievable probably India's best ever coaches, but John Wright, but I won't call it his term of failure by any standard. Yeah. And Rahul Rabid, see, I'm totally looking forward to this because I have followed him right from his first innings at Lords with Sauroli till date. I mean, he has been one of my idols while growing up. While watching cricket, he's always set examples for being disciplined, for being so focused and so well mannered on and off the field. I'm sensing a very new and a very professional Indian team. There will be a lot less swearing and dancing around, I believe or I'm not sure how that's going to happen, but hopefully we'll see lots of new talent coming in, the likes of Shubman Gilt, the likes of Pratresha. Maybe someone like Shivam Mavi and Nagar Koti can make a comeback under Raul Rabbit because they kind of work well together. I'm really looking forward to this new era. And I think one thing that Ravit would do, as you rightly pointed out, is give chance to the youngsters, especially in matches that probably are not the important, but you will still give them an opportunity to shine and challenge in quotes, first eleven. I think it also goes down to who will become the captain for India. That's still not been finalized and that will set the tone for how the team plays because cricket is a sport unlike football, where the captain more often than not is the manager as well. Because a lot of things happen on field. Yes, he will make the team professional. He would keep them on their toes. You would see lesser Hardy Panda antics follow through when the ball and not reach the outside circle, those kind of antics. But I'm actually like you, bigger fan. I think this is a great decision. It's at the right juncture for Team India because we're just at that phase. We are on our way down. It's a downward trend in our form, which we've had for the last three years, and it's important to have somebody who can send leadership. All right, now, enough of cricket. All the best team India. We are totally looking forward to the next era of Indian cricket. Now, since we ended the last topic with a managerial or a coach change, our next topic will be all the managerial or the coach changes that happened in European football.

Participant #1:
So now to all the Barcelona fans today, finally something very nice happens. Like, see, we don't know how this is going to turn up. We don't know how this particular new I'm overusing this word now era under Chave. I honestly thought like this will mean nothing to me. I mean, it's just another managerial change. But I stumbled upon the live feed. I was just going through my YouTube on the TV and suddenly saw his presentation today and there's live feed. And I caught up at the right moment when he was about to enter the campus field. I have to tell you that I had a bit of a goose bumpy moment when I saw him back on the field. It felt really good to see him back at camp. No, I don't know. As I said, absolutely. I have no objective way of telling whether it's going to work out or not. All I can say is I hope this works out well. I think it will. But I think it's very important for Barcelona to give him time because to go back to that. The philosophy that I know would want to integrate within the squad one for right now, they don't have the players for it and the players they do have are way above their expiry, beyond their expiry date. So it will take investments. I know we will prioritize the LaMasia, the youth, but does is LaMasia the same quality as it used to be? I don't know. Because if you look at the youngsters coming out, Ricky poor, he thought it would be the gym, but he barely got a game. You can't put the blame on just common because Kiki and nobody trusted Ricky poets. So something is up there. So how much trust would be put on the youth when they are still in the phase of not delivering world stars? Right. So it's going to be a very tricky situation for him to be at Barcelona, but for the fans, it gives them hope. Some positive news is better than nothing. I came across a very interesting question posed on the ESPN show and I want to ask you this question. What is more likely this season? New Castle getting relocated with Eddie? How Conceive getting 6th place or a European spot? Zavi ensuring basic finish in the top three of the La Liga. Out of the three, which is more likely the second one, Tottenham finishing in top six. Wow. Okay, Lavie, you still have your doubts? I will say top four. He will take bastard to fourth position. Top three. I'm not sure, because we will get to La Liga when we get to La Liga, because I still think Sevilla are doing really good, they have a good chance. So when we talk about especially clubs like Barcelona and Real Mudder, I mean, we can do a separate podcast on how different these two clubs, football clubs when compared to any other football clubs in the world. Because these two clubs, for one, they're not profit making clubs. They are not a business. They're actually football clubs. They're there to run football operations. But beyond that, these two have an extremely high political image within Spain. Like Florentine, Paris is a very highly powerful man within the higher echelons of Spain. And same way, if you are a President of Barcelona football club, you are at the same level within the Catalonian, whatever the society today. During the presentation, if you can go back and watch, I'm not sure whether it's still available on YouTube. I insist, if you want to. Every time Chavi was going to applaud the fans around or trying to take a photograph, you will see Joan Laporta within 2ft from him. He was sticking with Charlie all the time. He wanted to say everyone that I brought him here. Watching how these clubs work is fascinating. As someone who has lived his entire life in tabloid, which is a very highly political state, everything you do has politics in it. Barcelona has one such club, dude. Anything you do, there is politics in it. In fact. Sorry, I was so fascinated looking at this. I'll just finish off this one small thing. I noticed there was a photo shoot happening. Okay, so Charvi with the board members and there are some couple of people, I think Chavez mom or Dadson. There is the 32nd argument on where Joan Laporta will stand in the picture, dude. They're like going like 30 seconds looking at them like, what's going on? It was like one of those. I couldn't figure out the formation. Yes, Barcelo has a formation problem there.

Participant #1:
Sorry. But I think it's a really interesting point because you're right. If you compare these two clubs with the likes of all the Premier League clubs, this is like a political party. There are elections to make up become a President. There are certain criteria you need to have to even be eligible for a President. Fan voices actually make a difference. And obviously attached to them are also countries specific political aspirations and ideologies. So there's so many things that actually makes me love the sport more. And that's why I support rail mode. And you bastard. Because it's not just football, right? The implications of even a classical result, it means so much to so many people. It's crazy. And I think that's why a guy like Zavi coming back. Being like the savior, the Guardian Angel for the city of Barcelona, more than just the club is so important for Laporta's optics for future reelection. He'll always be like, I got Xavi and saved the day. Like how I rebuilt, got Pep Guardiola and had the greatest time in Bassa history. So it will always be an August leap. Yeah. Now talking about managerial changes. Now we saw Nuno Esperatos Anthos getting sagged last week and we were talking about how Antonio Conte being the front runner for the job, and he did get the job. In fact, he has already coached two teams. In fact, two sorry. In fact, he has already managed two games, one in the Conference League and one in the Premier League. Now, we don't want to talk about that game. It ended nil nil. It's probably one of the most boring games you will ever watch in your life. But what can we expect out of context? Initial thoughts, do you think that Tottenham has context type players for Conte to work as magic? I think one thing which people get very wrong, I've seen a lot of these articles about Conte is that the only thing he does, he asks for money and then build a squad. That's not true. He made probably one of the weakest Italian squads in our lifetime do miracles in the World Cup. Right. So I think what he's going to do is he's going to build out his style of play, but he's going to be very picky with the type of players. If you saw him at Intermedia and they rotated very less last season, like Lucas, Lucardo played almost every single game. Same goes for Diverse, and he's going to have these three or four players for Tottenham that are probably going to be irreplaceable few players. I feel that I'm going to either get dumped very fast and I wish they were dumped before Eric Dyer, Deli Ally. I have no idea why they exist in the football field. Those guys might get a kick up their bum either become really good like what they were about three or four years ago, or get dumped. And that's one thing about context. He doesn't like you, he doesn't like you, he won't play you. He has no obligations to play anyone, and that includes Harry Kane. So he's going to shape up a lot of the sports team. And let's face it, remember when we were talking about this at the beginning of the season? They got a talented squad. If you look at just the players individual, it's a talented bunch. They're just not clicking right now. And he can get that because he is that kind of a manager. He is one of the best managers in the world. So I expect Tottenham to be much better than what they are. They're not going to finish top four for sure, but at least do better than what they're doing right now. Yeah. I mean, I have a few reasons why I think this will definitely work in terms of players, because as you said, one thing Conte will definitely do is he will beat the team out of shape. The training sessions are going to be so intense. In fact, I was listening to Belgian journalists talking about how Lukaku experienced. What was Lukaku's experience during the initial days with Inter. The training and the tactical sessions were so tiring, so detailed over a period of time. It took a while for Lukaku to get engaged with that kind of stuff. But one thing that Contest team do is they will take a bit of time to get settled in, but once they settle in, they will go on a run, they will play like machines. They will start stringing results after results, after results, and they could go on a 15 game, 20 game unbeaten run. That Contest team is very capable of. So we will have to watch out for Tottenham. I would say I still put them as one of the contenders for top four because I still believe EPL table. After what we have seen in this week, there are still a lot of teams that can compete for the top four position. Now talking about teams that are competing for a top four position, there are teams that are fighting relegation and they have sacked managers. In fact, two of those teams have sacked their managers. One is Daniel Fakka, the Norwich teams coach. In fact, they sacked Daniel Farker after they won their first game in Premier League after 20 games. So he was sacked, I think, Saturday or Sunday. And Astana Villa, they have sacked Dean Smith, their head coach. And some interesting names have been discussed to take over Norwich and Aston Villa. There is Frank ClampArt being discussed, Steven Gerrard being discussed, John Terry being discussed. So some interesting names coming up and Ishaan Newcastle has a new manager, as you were saying, Eddie, how I like this bonmark team. Yeah, but I'm just saying, how did this happen in a way, because he's going to probably be an internal manager. If this explosion of funds that everyone is talking about is going to happen currently, there are so many appeals against it. So if they do get those 3400 million funds to splurge on already, how the manager going to lead put in charge of those funds? I doubt it. I think he's been putting a job that just please don't ensure that you don't get relegated because that's the severe concern right now for Newcastle. They are almost at the bottom of the table. It's quite shocking they're not on a game this season, which is quite scary. So, yeah, he's a great manager. His Bournemouth, as you rightly said, was quite a decent bonmark team. They used to cause quite a lot of upset. So it's going to be good decision to get him, but it's definitely not for the long term and that's sad because I really like him as a manager. My only problem with Eddie, how is I don't think Newcastle has the players for Eddie Howe Ti. But on the other side, on the longer term, Eddie, who actually built the Palmut club right from when they were in the second division, he brought them up three levels to the Premier League and they played in Premier League for almost four or five seasons. So maybe they want to build a team, a club under Eddie How. Maybe they saw his work at Bonemoth and thought that he will replicate that in Newcastle. But again, we don't know. We'll have to wait and see. Now, that's about it for this managerial hoopla, guys. I mean, so many managerial changes. In fact, this is very obvious because this is the international break week. Clubs usually fire managers at this point of time, but there is one club who are very adamant that whatever happens, that they are not going to fire their manager. We are going to talk about that club and their abyssmal display in front of their home fans in the next section.

Participant #1:
This weekend was pretty much City Derby's. In fact, when I say city, I'm not saying man city, I'm saying cities, like cities. The main ones are the Manchester Dabi, one of the biggest Dabi's in the world, the Civil Dhabi, one of the most beautiful in the Picharas Dabi. But to me, the biggest Dharbi has to be the Milan Derby. In fact, younger fans, you may not understand the severity or the rivalry between ACM Land and tabloid. It's a very peculiar rivalry. It's a very unique rivalry. Also, it was a spectacular game map. I mean, I have seen a lot of Milan Derby's over the years, but I haven't seen one this end to end, this exciting, so much action, so much drama, so much narration. This was brilliant, man. This game was superb. I think when I was a kid, Milan Dabi was the game I used to look forward to. The players at that time in Milan had Ronaldo, the original Ronaldo, and obviously probably the greatest ever, Milan teamed up against him. Those are the games, man. And I'm so happy to see that both those teams, both these teams are now up back at the top of Italian football, that their games are becoming spectacles again because there was a lull face for a couple of years, both teams were not very good. And so I'm glad that phase is over. But, yeah, yesterday's game, let's look at Hacker and Kagnaglu's exacmiller player scoring a penalty against his ex club and pointing at the home fans, one of the two, and mocking them. That's what the rivalry is about. Everyone forgets loyalties in terms of where they played the season before. It's just about that moment. Yeah, people who are wondering why it is so important, because Shala was playing for AC Milan the last season and in fact, his contract ended and Milan, you didn't give him the contract he wanted, so he jumped sides, he moved to Inter Milan. You play in the same Stadium just in front of a different color Jersey fans. But yes, he scored. In fact, he won the penalty and he went and asked Lotaro that I'll take the penalty. So Lotaro gave the ball to him and he scored. Then AC Milan equalized. It was an own goal. I mean initially I thought he scored it but it turned out to be an own goal and Integra got another penalty and this time Lataro missed it. An exceptional save by the goalkeeper. In fact, Milan's first choice goalkeeper wasn't playing. My was injured so he wasn't playing. So it was their backup goalkeeper who did a superb job. Second half was N two and Milan both. The teams had a lot of chances. Could have scored two or three goals but the game ended. I would say deservingly one all there wasn't a clear favorite. Maybe some people might say enter should have won the game based on the balance. But as when I saw I was like one. One was a fair result but I was so happy man. Damn happy. Staying up late to watch a Milan Dabi, it was thoroughly worth it. Now talking about other teams that are playing in Syria, the table reads the same way as it was before. Napoli are still on top. Milan are still on top. In fact they are tied on points. Napoli are ahead in gold difference. In fact they also drew their game. Inter are close third they are seven points away. Ua topsy turby turn. They won against Ferantina, they are still on eight but Roma lost to VeniceA. Mourinho, I think we are seeing certain telltale signs of what's going to happen in the next one or two months. What do you think? It's such a different Mourinho right now. I think because time has passed. There are certain patterns in Mourinho's career as a manager that we could associate to and generally why that pattern. The first season is always like the best. It started off so well for him at Roma, but now I think it's gone back to what we normally expected of Rome at the beginning of the season. Let's be very honest, they're not such a great team right now so I'm just doing what they would do with any other manager. What has Maria added, I wouldn't put all the point all my fingers towards him but yeah, you can't be losing to Venezuela and then have something to show for it. And the last month or so it's been really poor from Roma. So it's interesting. I still think they'll give him a lot more time than a lot of other clubs would because Roma is that kind of a club and the fans love him. So he's got a lot of credit. But let's see how long that lasts. Yeah. Segueing from Mourinho's current club to Mourinho's previous club, which is again a city starting with the letter M, the Manchester Davis. In fact, in a weekend when there is a Manchester Dabi, the fact that the Manchester Darby update comes as the second or the third in the weekend. Football action goes to show how bad a Derby to us. The second half, the City could have played with nine, eight on the field. I don't think it would have changed. City could have got their ball, boys, water, people, physios. They could have made a charity game out of it, raise some funds, and United still wouldn't have scored. They would have probably scored more goals for Cities. And it was shocking. I would actually beg this game to be worse than the one against Liverpool. I've never seen Adobe in any lead. The disparity in quality is so stark and like how it was at Old Trafford, it was quite shocking because when you look at man for man, United are not a bad team. Like, they've got Ronaldo, they've got those kind of look at the midfield. That is the difference. I feel when you got Debrayne and I have a separate section only. I want to talk about how amazing Bernardo Silva is because he can literally do anything and he was about to be sold by City, by the way, but they are playing against Fred and McDonald. They're great players for mid level clubs. I feel they're not United level players. I would say it's bad managers, but like other players, also upper games. I don't think so. And I think Verana and Ronaldo might be thinking because I don't think even Madrid at its worst would have been like this. And I wanted to tweet this the other day after the game, like if Only was a bastard or Madrid manager, he would have been fired five times over in his United easily. Yeah. So what do you think? What do you think was the problem with United? Can they fix it? And now they've announced that they're not going to let Only go. So what do you think they need to do? Look, they actually definitely had to change the manager or at least get another coach, another someone who can tactically get this team into shape kind of coach. You will have to do that. I mean this because Ole's messages are not going through. Maybe he's given the right pictures or not. We don't know that there's no idea behind the team. So it's high time. Fire is the wrong word. They should let Ole go and they missed a great opportunity. Conte and Manchester United would have been a perfect match with the kind of players that United have with the coach. Conte was it's a shame that how they couldn't see that. And they want Ole because Ole is for the business. He's the best one. That's the one reason, right? I mean, Manchester United, as you said, right, real Madrid or Basalona, this coach would have got fired five times by now. Going back to the point I was talking about, when I was talking about Ryan Mulder and basketball, there are football clubs. Manchester United is a business. In fact, I am not singling out Manchester City night. Every single Premier League club is a business. Real marginal bass on our football clubs. If football is not right, then no matter how much revenue you bring in, it's not going to work. Just a point. I have a different thought. I want to see what do you think about it? See United two years ago when they made the mistakes about, if you remember the dim area, Falcon transfers and they said that they're going to look at the long term, they want to build this club. And that's why one of the reasons of getting like a lady in charge after his temporary stint, post Moreno, that's one of the reasons they justified to make it a permanent deal. Getting a guy like never going to be a long term manager, that's not his style, Max. Two seasons would be the thing. But is that the journey unit? That's one of the reasons why they probably didn't go for Conte, because it would have been one season, probably the next season, full season, and then he would be done. That, I feel, was the only reason why they probably didn't consider a context. But I'm also think of it this way, who are the managers available right now that split into the long term kind of scheme? I don't see anyone available and that could probably be one of the reasons why I think United are pretty handcuffed in terms of keeping or sticking with olive oil till the next season. Yeah. In fact, there is one manager who's doing wonders with West Ham and next Manchester United manager, maybe they can reconsider getting him back. Does he still have a contract with my sister? I don't think. I think it's a six year contract. I think it must have got expired by now. West Ham, man, I mean, they have been a breath of fresh air. Okay the game, there's a lot of talking points in terms of red cards and all this stuff. Let's put that aside. West Ham, they had a very simple plan. In fact, Brenford kind of showed other teams how to beat Liverpool, how to attack Liverpool in terms of their defense. West Ham had a very specific set piece plan and both those set pieces worked to the T. They were very well set up. And Liverpool are out foxed. It has to be fair. Yeah. And this has been a common theme for Liverpool. They have certain sports of complete zero concentration where they just let things like the match flow by and they're just like sitting there dazed. And it's happened a couple of times with them this season. And the unfortunate thing for them is that a lot of these teams have capitalized on it. There are times where you slip up and the team still can't convert. If you look at United, you give them 100 chances they might not convert. But this time, West Ham has been such a solid side this season. You wouldn't expect them to miss these opportunities that the defense gave. And Alison I would say was responsible for all of the goals in a way. So that's all down to lapse in concentration, right? So it's literally I won't dig too deep into Liverpool's problem. They still for me are the best team into the Premier League right now if they want, if they're in the mood. But as you said, this is all about West Ham and I'm so happy to see them. And I think the rise happened last season. Last season they were really good. They fell away at the end of the season but they still got into Europe because of those performances early on and they're just maintaining that kind of form and momentum this season. So I think it's about time that they get some recognition with the media as well as from the fans because they are such a great footballing team. Yeah. And they are on third. In fact, they are ahead of Liverpool in the table. Chelsea are still on top 26 points. City 23, West Ham 23, Liverpool 22. And that's getting very tight. Now there's another London club who's also inching who is also silently like climbing up the table which is Arsenal. They are on 15th on 20 points. They are suddenly doing pretty well. So hold credit to them and how they have turned things around. Now in fact we will talk about Arsenal when we do half review for the next game. In fact that's on 28 November 2 weeks later we'll do a quick review of how Arsenal have done this season even before Amazon printers now moving on to La Liga. The big Savile Dabi happened. In fact for those who don't follow a lot of Ladiga, you might obviously know about the El Classico. You will know about the murder Dabi. But the civil Dee is very special. It's called the El Grandabi. It happens between Rial Betis and Sevilla. This happened at Rial Beta's home. In fact, both are the city of Sevilla severya one, two. They have been pretty not very good in Champions League. They have had their fair share of heart of luck in Champions League. But in the League they seem to be consistent. They have lost only one game. They are tied in points with Real Madrid second and third respectively. They are lopeteggy yet another top four finish or can we expect more from him? See the thing is last year also if you look at early on in the season they were on top of the League and then they fell by the wayside. They don't close end seasons really well and I fear for them this season as well, especially with the rise of Real softer dad we're going to talk about in a bit. But yeah, they are the team to beat there. And what makes them really difficult to predict is that they're really good against good teams and really poor against weaker teams. So if you play Sevilla Madrid, Sevilla Barcelona, Sevilla Atletico, you generally expect them to really give help. But then at the end of the season their loan to lose to Cadiz. Also Suna Levante. So if they get that consistency right, they are showing for me for the top three or even more. But consistency is the key word. Yeah. Now talking about consistency, there's a team that is consistently losing points towards the end of the game. In fact, the beginning of this event they were consistently gaining points. Now they seem to consistently losing points. Atletico. I mean this is very unethlitico. From a three one lead, they lost two points and both those goals go during the injury times, right? If I'm not wrong, yes, 92nd minute or 96 minutes. Hugo Duo duo both goals out of set pieces, which is very unlike Athletic or to concede from set pieces, great headers, no chance for oblacing, but meaning I don't care about the result. But the moment the Muster Stadium in full flow when a comeback is happening. It reminds me of the old Rafa Benitez day when Valencia was just a nightmare to play. It brought back those memories. But yeah, Atletico Madrid should be putting Valencia away. Valencia not a very great side right now. They drop points. Yes. On paper, Athletico versus Valencia is a big game. Not with the Athletico right now. They're supposed to win these games. So big weekend for me as a Real Madrid fan, barring Society dad, winning because it was Athletic or dropping points. I won't talk about the other team because they are so far off. They're not even considered chatting right now. Yeah, but the top of the table is not Real Madrid. It's Larryal. In fact, the official name is Rial So Sedar, but they're usually being referred to as Larry Alcoda. They are on a great run. In fact, they had a similar kind of season two seasons back when they had odor guard stringing things for them. Do you see them continuing this? Because as I said, I've seen this with Social for a very long time. They also start up really well. They go they go to the winter break in top four, but then they slowly lose towards the end. Is that what's going to happen or do we see a new number four, a new team in the top four? No. I'll tell you why I think this season might be a season where they actually get something going. Because this is Society with a lot of injuries right now and they're still winning games. This is Society dad. I would say not scratching by scraping away when they're actually dominating games with a weakened squad on paper. So when those players come back, they're only going to get better. So that's something that I feel for Social fans is difference between what they were a couple of seasons ago and this season the other is the other big clubs are not as good as they were last couple of seasons ago. You're not going to expect a consistent Real Madrid or consistent Atletico Madrid or Sevilla. So they have to be there to pounce at the right time. They definitely have to try and get results in these big games home and away. Be at a point, be at a victory. If they do that, you never know man. Anything can happen. Especially this is the time for any team to win. Laga who not got Real Madrid. Atletico bastard. This is that season because next season Madrid is going to spend big. It's going to be a Galactico season. Basa and Zavi will have money to spend. Will they get these chances again? You never know. All right guys, so that's a wrap on all the football action. We are not going to talk about Bundesliga because nothing new happened there. Dortmund lost the game buy and won a game buy and are comfortably on top and that's how it's going to remain till the end of the season. Wait, something new happened. What? Something new? What happened? No, wait, it didn't. Nothing new happened. Everything was the same. Great. In the next section we are going to talk about certain events, lot of updates, lot of medals for Indian table tennis players,

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Indian table tennis players Manika Bhatra and Ashana Gish Kamat. They won the women's doubles titles at the World Table Tennis Contender on Sunday. This is very big guys because like archery table tennis. Also we had a bit of hope in terms of tagging an Olympic medal both on the men's and the women's section and unfortunately we couldn't win either. In fact, Manika Bhatra, people who followed Olympics will know I had a very good run but eventually lost to a very good player. Now this victory adds to another victory. In fact last week our men's table tennis double steam won their title and right now the women's team winning it. I mean this is pretty big for Indian table tennis scene and Indian table tennis fans. So Congratulations to you both and wishing you all success moving forward. We want to talk about this during the last episode itself but somehow we forgot to do this. This is about George Cavallo, an Australian A League soccer player who released a video on social media few weeks back telling that he's openly gay. This is the first time ever a men's footballer has come out that he's openly gay. This is very groundbreaking because in women's football these kinds of things are not new. In fact, arguably the most famous name in women's football is an openly gay person and this is a welcoming change. And in general the way football in the world has reacted to this was also very heartening to see big players like Jarrett PK, Gary Lineker, Jordan Henderson and many other footballers have come out in support of Josh. This is a welcoming change. I mean, keep saying this is a welcoming change because we have seen a lot of these still issues like racism and other things happening around men's football. So hopefully not just the players. Also, some of the fans understand what it is to be someone with a different sexual preference than others. So hopefully we'll see more of this and hopefully we'll see players not worrying to come out as who they are. You're right. I think it's great for the awareness, but I think the larger concern personally I have is, like you said, the fans, right? How do you sensitize the fans? Because clubs, even the Faas, have tried their bit to get rid of racism. It still exists. Sexual orientation, fortunately, is not an issue as big as racism in football, but it's good for the awareness. There might be players in other leagues around the world who are probably not as comfortable to come out in the open, but I guess it gives them strength. I don't want to be a person who puts myself in their position and becomes their voice because that would be unfair. But my opinion would be that how as fans like us, when we're doing podcasts and when we are looking at attending games, how do we sensitize ourselves to treat players as humans, not as like our hopes and aspirations? I can tell you from my example, when Real Madrid didn't do well, I thought it was a failing in me. Like I'm probably not the right fan. I don't deserve a good Real Madrid. I should take it very personally. So imagine how locals in Madrid would do or say Barcelona, that's the power of football. But I said power goes both ways, right? And that's when does racist abuses or hurling happen? When either fans who are against someone, against an opposing team, who are there secure about racism generally occurs to a player like Lukaku because they know that Lucaku can beat their side on his own. So these things, how do we change would be the challenge going on, going ahead and football. But coming back to this, I think it's great for the sport. I hope other sports also have such examples that have the come out in public, like in cricket, you never know. We not heard somebody in cricket in men's cricket come out that could give them the strength to come out as well. So Weldon Josh more power to you and hope this inspires other footballers and other sports person in general not to be ashamed of who they really are. Now, for the first time in Indian women's football history, we have an Indian women's club who are playing the AFC Champions Cup now. Afc Champions Cup for listeners, this is the Asian equivalent of the UF Champions League. The club we're talking about is Gokulum FC from Kerala. They are the Indian Super League Women Super League Champions and they represent India in the AFC Champions Cup. It's happening in Jordan. In fact, they played their first game. Unfortunately they lost to a Jordan team and they have two other games, one happening on 10th November Wednesday. And I think the third one is happening on Saturday. If you want to follow, if you want to catch the action, you can find that on YouTube. Search for Jordan FA or Jordan Football Association. You will find a link. All those matches are streamed live there. All the best go clemese. I'm sure this is not the last one. We will see more of you in the AFC Champions Cup moving forward. So in the F one world, things are heating up. We have only four more races to go and yesterday there was an exciting and an important race. It was the Mexican Grand Prix. In fact, after us it's Mexican Grand Prix and after Mexican, I think next week they are going to play. Sorry, they are going to race in Brazil. I believe west happened very crucial win. I think it was probably one of the best starts for stepping tired to a race in his career. It was amazing. He was in third place and the way he held off bought us and Hamilton in the early spread to getting the early lead because what happened was Ricardo nuts. Bought us was at Poll at the first apex. That Swivel brought us around. What step and put on the brakes late. He trusted his car, he didn't break immediately to prevent damage. He trusted car to break at the last moment which gave him that extra millisecond to take that lead. And that proved a different because once he was on the lead, he was start to finish, he was leading the race. Right. And that is incredible. And that shows Championship mentality because Hamilton was breathing down his neck throughout the race. Credit also goes to Czecho Perez who became the first Mexican to get on a podium in a Mexican Grand Prix. So he came third. Very important position in terms of the constructors. There's only one point separating Mercedes and Red Bull in the constructors. So I think this has to be one of the closest ever Championship battles we've seen probably ever in my lifetime because generally it's always been one way shows through the Schumacher days, Hamilton days, Alonso days, et cetera. So this is great. It's must see football name, must see Formula One. So can't wait for the remainder of the races. So we have four races left. In fact, there are going to be three races back to back in three race weeks. In fact, yesterday it was in Mexico. Next week it's going to be the Brazilian Grand Prix. The week after that they are going to play in Qatar and then there's a two weeks break, I believe. And then the entire season ends with two more races and I believe it's going to be in Bahrain and ends in Abu Dhabi. If I'm not wrong. Now, these races are going to be very important as Ishan was just pointing out it's one point that separates Mercedes and Red Bull in the constructors Championship and it's about 30 or 29 points separates between west happen on top and Hamilton on second. Now this is getting very interesting so watch out for all those races and we will also bring you the updates. That's about it for this episode. Guys, I understand this could be a little longer episode. In fact, we had a lot of fun recording. It is kind of a new format we are trying so please bear with us. In fact, if you have any valuable feedback, please do share. We keep sharing our Twitter ID and Instagram ID towards the end so please keep doing that. It will help us improve our content. In fact, this week is going to be an international break week. In fact, two weeks of international international break in football. All the players have gone to represent their national teams to play the World Cup qualifiers. In fact, Euro World Cup qualifiers, South America worker qualifiers are heating up so watch out for that. Those games will be there on Sony live or any of those Sony channels. World Cup T 20 is heating up. We have semi finals and finals so we'll bring you all the actions F one NBA anything that goes around in the sports universe. We will watch over the next one week and we will bring it to you in our next episode which is going to be on next Monday. So until then it's bye from Bala and bye fromichan guys. Have a great week ahead. Thank you, everyone for listening. 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