The Guides With Intuitive India Leigh
Guides come in many forms: spirit guides, angels, our own higher selves, our inner children, our bodies — and we serve as earthly guides for each other as we share, reflect and activate our unique and powerful gifts, experiences, perspectives and energies. Through spirit-centered messages and conversations, intuitive reader, clairvoyant, claircognizant and coach India Leigh leads listeners through guidance, metaphysical and mystical teachings and more. Listen to and learn from energy readings and gain spiritual insights from India and a wide array of other teachers and guides. You can learn more about India and book a personal session at indialeigh.com.
The Guides With Intuitive India Leigh
Libra Season 2025: Unveiling Hidden Strength and Transformation
Karmic Astrologer Susan Reynolds joins us to explore the true nature of Libra season and what October 2025 brings energetically. We debunk common misconceptions about Libra energy and reveal how this cardinal air sign combines mental acuity with a powerful sense of justice.
• Libra is not a pushover but a powerful, mentally acute leader who weighs options carefully
• All zodiac seasons affect everyone collectively, regardless of your personal chart placements
• Mars in Scorpio throughout October creates courage to face uncomfortable truths
• October's Full Moon in Aries (Oct 6) highlights tension between self-needs and relationship-needs
• A grand water trine forms between Jupiter in Cancer, Saturn in Pisces, and Mars in Scorpio, enhancing intuition and emotional intelligence
• Pluto stations direct in Aquarius on October 14th, activating transformation in areas of friendship, groups, and innovation
• America is experiencing an "energetic civil war" that presents opportunities for collective healing
• The invitation this season is to choose joy moment-by-moment rather than fear or disconnection
• Looking ahead: 2025 represents peak challenge, with gradual easing beginning in 2026 as we rebuild and transform
For more from Susan Reynolds, visit exploreastrology.com
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Hi, this is India Lee Intuitive and this is the Guides Podcast. And today we're diving in with Susan Reynolds, karmic Astrologer, for our check-in to Libra season and all that it's bringing. Libra season started on September 22nd and will run through October 22nd, and it is bringing the balance, the harmony, the connection and the scales of justice right. Yes, yes, thank goodness.
Speaker 2:But you know what? A lot of people have a very one-dimensional view of Libra. They think that Libra is all love and light, peace, harmony, maybe a bit of a pushover, and that is an incorrect assessment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Not kick ass in your face, maybe the way Aries is, but they're very tough. I do not miscategorize this sign. Think of George Patton, the very famous World War II general. He was a Libra Whoa. He was in the military and he was kick ass and take names kind of guy. So Libra is about balance, it's about harmony, but it's also about negotiation Because it's an air sign. They're very mentally acute, they can see the flaws in your argument. They know how to get their way through. Well, let's compromise this way, but the compromise is sort of heavily in their favor. So yeah, now a couple of things to do that.
Speaker 1:Yes, a couple of things I just want to interject here before we get started is one I was asked recently. You know we're talking about each season, each zodiac season. Does that affect everyone? And of course it does, because we're all collectively experiencing these energies. So even if you don't have a drop of whatever energy it is we're talking about in your chart, you still are benefiting from or being challenged by the energies of that season. So that's something to understand about each zodiac season, is it? Does it's sort of like weather or climate. It affects all of us and you know we just. It helps us to know what's happening in that climate so we can know how to respond and how to rise to it. And then it helps you even more if you understand your own chart so that you can say, oh, this, this season, affects me in these ways, right. So that you can say, oh, this season affects me in these ways, right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We may not have any planets in Libra or in those signs of the season, but every single person has all 12 signs represented in their chart someplace, so you don't get a pass.
Speaker 1:Like oh, I don't have to worry about that. Yeah, because even if you don't see it in your placements, you have those energies inherent in the 12 houses of your chart right?
Speaker 2:Yes, we have every single house associated with a different sign, and so when things are happening in that sign, it's going to affect that area of your life. So for some people it may be diggity this is great, and for other people it may be oh, what did is great. And for other people it may be, oh, what did I ever do to deserve this? You know, but we experience it someplace. So it's always a good idea, regardless of if you know where your planets are or not, to understand what's coming up.
Speaker 1:yeah, good common sense, yeah, and the other thing going back to you talking about how tough Libra can be and how it can be a very leading energy. It is a cardinal sign, so it's a leader. The triggering individuals in our world are Libras. A couple of the you know tragedies of our country and the sort of injustice things that have brought about a sense of needing justice, the people at the center of those have been Libras.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, like I said, say libra is not an overtly aggressive sign, but it is a cardinal sign. Along with aries and cancer and capricorn, libra is the the fourth cardinal sign and they are signs of leadership, so that this is not a sign that wants to sit back and say you know, peel me a grape or something. This is a sign that cares about justice. A lot of lawyers have libra. You know, peel me a grape or something. This is a sign that cares about justice.
Speaker 1:A lot of lawyers have Libra. Did you know Judge Judy's a Libra.
Speaker 2:Really I did not know that. And look how tough that woman is Right. I do not want to go to her bad side.
Speaker 1:But she's also very likable and very easy to watch, which makes her use some of those other Libra traits, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:There you go, there you go it's. A Libra can be dangerous because they're usually two, three steps ahead of you. Their mind is just very quick, quick, quick. They get it and they start to think well, they're going to say this, and then I can come back with this Don't get into a debate with a Libra, you will lose.
Speaker 1:You will lose lose, you will lose, and this includes your child. You know kind of thing. I love it. Oh my gosh, just as we were talking. So the card that I just am playing and shuffling the cards, the card that came out is the Queen of Swords and this is the card of Libra. So the Queen of Swords is like I am decisive. I can look at a situation and, yes, I will weigh the options, but then I will use my discernment to you know, to say this has to go. It's funny and I will go ahead and disclose me being extra interested in the sign because I am a Libra sign.
Speaker 1:But the the sense of, or the stereotype that Libra is indecisive, that comes from weighing all the options, looking at things from all sides, and sometimes it can be a matter of well, if I look at things from all sides, it doesn't really matter, we could go here or there for dinner, it doesn't really matter. But when? And that looks like it's indecisive. When someone's like, well, just tell me. And it's like, well, it truly doesn't matter. But when something does matter, when something is important, that's when the decisiveness kicks in. You won't see a Libra who's like this is big and important and I don't know what to do. They're going to know, yeah.
Speaker 2:And Libra does weigh all the options and so it's like well, where do you want to go for dinner? Well, we could go for Italian, and they have good Italian food, but they're kind of expensive. We can go from Mexico and they're less expensive, but they have that tiny parking lot we're never going to be able to find a parking space. So you start to think of all the possibilities. And then labor loves research, it loves information, that air energy. So well, let me look up and see if we have a way that each one so they're on their phone or they're on their computer and they're going to research and they're going to delve, and you know, indio, you probably experienced this. It could be like going down a rabbit hole, like each time you just uncover the next layer of let me look at this and let me look at this and you know, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:And at some point you just have to be like all right, you know, just yeah, just go ahead and go with whatever you're feeling Now. How is Libra season 2025 distinctive and different so far? What are you feeling about that?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, we're looking at October because basically, even though the sun stays in a sign for about four weeks, we usually get it with one week right at the tail end of the month and the next three weeks in the new month, which is totally annoying to me, like I think it probably is to a lot of people. Just make it month to month, you know, but it doesn't work like that. So we're getting ready. We've just gone and the sun has just moved into Libra, and in the month of October, until around the 23rd of October, the sun will be in Libra, and in the month of October, until around the 23rd of October, the sun will be in Libra.
Speaker 2:This is one of those very weird times where what I am seeing astrologically does not always match up with what I'm feeling intuitively. You know September. I knew we're in for a bumpy month. We had two eclipses that total lunar eclipse, the partial solar eclipse. I knew we were going to get hit. Stuff is going to happen. Astrologically, october feels quieter, but intuitively it doesn't feel quiet to me, so it's a little bit of hmm, this doesn't make any sense. So I do think the things that are going to happen in October may have a bigger impact, or a bigger effect than what we think they're going to have, then maybe just what shows?
Speaker 1:I have to agree and I have to say, looking at the cards while you're talking, so much of it's going to be about our individual choices, what we are choosing moment to moment. Are we choosing what feels loving and healthy to us, or are we choosing the old and the limited and the mind based? You know, just to go off on a little bit of a side tangent because this has been coming through so strongly lately, if you're looking at social media or little videos or whatever, there was a stir around some rapture rumors, which you know happen every once in a while, yes, and, and people were very emotionally triggered by the idea of, you know, the rapture happening. And when the collective, just vulnerably, I'll share that when the collective is triggered in something, it's very deeply triggering for me because of my own individual makeup. I'm not someone who can easily brush that off and it's, it's, um, it deeply affects me.
Speaker 1:So my guides came through and they were showing me something really beautiful. They said what does rapture mean? And I and I said it means joy. Right, rapture, joy. And they said exactly. So all the rapture is is the imperative that we choose joy, and if we don't choose joy, we're going to be living in a different kind of reality within our own minds. That's going to be very real to us, living within our own minds. That's just what I saw on the cards right now. So I'm seeing with you for October. It's moment to moment. Are we choosing joy? Are we choosing fear or disconnection? And that is the rapture in quotes. It goes on and on and on, you know, and it's going to become more and more and more distinct and you will be able to see more clearly. Oh, is this person choosing joy actively or are they choosing fear actively? And we will see that globally. And that was just a cool thing that my guides showed me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with that. I find it interesting that we had the solar eclipse on the 21st and they're talking about the rapture period being the 22nd, 23rd, 24th. I'm like, oh, in the shadow of the eclipse, what a coincidence yeah.
Speaker 1:And also the first days of Libra season, where that choice of what are you choosing for yourself is so key, because those energies say you need to get your balance, you need to get your scales balanced. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things that I like that's happening this month, in October, is the fact that Mars is now in Scorpio. It went into Scorpio in the last few days of September and it will stay in Scorpio the entire month of October. And you like that. I like that. What does that? Because I'll tell you about Scorpio. I'll tell you about the high side of Scorpio. It is intense, it is powerful, it is transformative, incredibly loyal, fearless, courageous. When Scorpio comes or is activated in our life and our charts in some way, we are going to be fearless about going underneath, about looking at what is hidden. So this can be looking at what we hide from ourselves. Oh, I don't want to look at that, that's too uncomfortable. You know there are people that don't want to look at what's going on politically. Oh, I don't want to look at that, it just bothers me. La la la, la, la la la. You know, scorpio isn't like that. Scorpio says this is going to be painful, this is going to be uncomfortable, but I am going to look at this.
Speaker 1:It's medicinal and it's truthful.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely. It gives us the courage to face emotional pain. Yeah, and that's something that who wants to look at that we pay money to not look at that. So, as Mars comes in, scorpio has a reserve and a privacy to it, but Mars is not reserved to private. Mars is bold and public and in your face. So as these two come together, it is a powerful, powerful time.
Speaker 2:Now I'm talking about the kind of people who are watching this podcast, who are spiritually aware, who are kind, who are compassionate, who want to use these energies to lift up into higher levels. We can take that energy and use it in a very powerful way in our life. But there are a lot of other people in the world who maybe don't choose to look with them, don't want to face that which is uncomfortable, who are angry, and Mars is a planet of anger. Mars is a planet of you talking to me. You know that kind of thing. So it can be very aggressive, it can be very assertive. So this can be a combination of violence, sometimes intense, powerful. You know Scorpios doesn't take any prisoners.
Speaker 2:Scorpio, one of the things they have to work on is not holding a grudge. I have a lot of Scorpio energy. So I could say this I know exactly what this is like. Oh hell, no, I'm not forgiving them. They were so wrong. It isn't the first word that comes to mind when Scorpio is active, but it just means we have an opportunity to forgive, to find that.
Speaker 2:But for people who aren't going to ask those questions, for people who aren't going to look at that in that way, they may want to lash out. They may want to take those deep feelings and say I'm in pain and I want to hurt everybody else so that they're in as much pain as I am. We can understand that logically, but it does not make however they choose to express that. Okay, this Mars in Scorpio is also going to be struggling against Pluto and Aquarius. Both of them are fixed signs and they just don't rub together very well. Yeah, so Pluto more intensity, more power, more transformative stuff. I'm really wondering if there's going to be some sort of geographical event in October, because Pluto right now is in Aquarius and Aquarius what is sudden, what is unexpected, what takes us by surprise? It makes me think of earthquakes, you know, tsunamis, you know Scorpio has a lot of water.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, ooh, is there going to be some sort of flooding and tsunami activity, so I'm a little cautious about that for October that comes after those disasters and the way it gets us all into our hearts is part of that transformation I feel you're talking about, Because when we see, oh, this thing happened. And it really makes us all forget all of the mind BS and go right into what matters. So that may be the effect of something like that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say I live in North Carolina and at the beginning of this year we had Hurricane Helene, which absolutely devastated our mountain area. Who in the mountains gets flood insurance? I mean like bizarre geographical events and so our state and this area is still digging out and trying to reclaim that. But what I've seen is the love, the support, the help other states offering to help, synagogues and churches coming together to bring supplies. You know, nobody's asking if the people in that area on the left or the right, they're asking what do you need, what can I do to help? And so sometimes the only good we can find in a natural disaster is people coming together. You put aside your petty differences and you help each other, and that's one of the positives that I see with this. I was so amazed and so touched at all of the people everywhere saying what can we do to help? How do we help these people?
Speaker 1:And I would say that's so beautiful. And I would say this Libra season, make sure you're bringing awareness to yourself individually too, that if there were to be some disaster that was sort of within yourself, like, let's say, there was a health crisis or something financial or just something where you would say, oh, this is disastrous to me, bringing yourself to that place of saying and I could connect with others and I could receive support, and sort of closing that loop. Because too often we go into the fear of if something happened to me and I would have nothing but allowing yourself to open to the miracles that would happen, could happen if something like that did occur.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking of the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk yeah. And Libra, yeah, yeah. And I have been, of course, praying for his family. I can't even imagine what his kids are going through and this horrific event, and it doesn't matter to me whether he was on the left or the right. I also have been praying for the family of Melissa Hartman and her husband, who were murdered in their home. They were more on the left. They did not deserve to be murdered in their home. It doesn't matter what their politics are. If you condemn that act of violence, then you can pray for them. That is a way of helping us connect with each other, of helping us find balance.
Speaker 1:Yes, and get to that true humanity, yeah, the humanity in the center of the scales, of that's where we all are, we all, when we get to those extremes of left, right or whatever else, honoring in some way whatever took us there, because you know, we didn't all just. You know, we're not robots. We all came to these journeys in these complex ways, and if we learned everyone's story we'd say, oh, that makes sense, you know they're there, but for the grace of God, you know, would I go? So so, yeah, just really bringing that Libra sense of being able to pull back from the circumstances.
Speaker 2:To look at both sides, because Libra is great at looking at both sides In all angles. It's not about being right or wrong. It's about coming together in that middle well and also seeing past illusion.
Speaker 1:You know, libra is able to say, well, this is, this is simply not true. You know, and and this is true in the sense of what really exists you know, um, there's what exists and then there's all the layers of stuff. We pile on top of that, and so Libra is able to kind of pull away those layers and go here's what's at the bottom of all of those layers. You know, and that's what we're all going to tap into, I feel, within ourselves. I'm feeling, susan, that this month, because it's Libra season and that's so much to do with partnerships, many of us are going to be peeling away the layers within relationship to get to that center of truth within ourselves, whether that's the mirrors that we're seeing. What do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:Well, I agree with you. I will expand that a little bit and say, when we say the word relationship, we tend to think of romantic partner, of course, you know. But this can be a business partner, this can be a friendship, because a friendship is a partnership between. So all of these are going to get activated a little bit more. I don't mean that in a bad way. We're just going to be more aware, we may be more like, oh, I love you so much, I'm so glad you, you're my friend, or you're the best husband or wife in the whole world. Other times we may be looking at that a little bit more seriously, like, huh, is this what I want in my life? We're just delving and looking.
Speaker 2:A lot of this is going to be kicked off on the 6th of september, the very first week, with our full moon in aries. You know, a full moon is when the sun is over here and the moon is over here and they are fighting each other. You know opposites. And so Libra is like, well, can't we just get along? And Aries is, oh hell, no, we can't get along. I'm going to let you know what I think and you're going to sit and listen to me.
Speaker 1:So we have Aries is like can't we just fight it out? And we just fight it out.
Speaker 2:So Aries is more self. Not that Aries is necessarily a selfish sign, because most of the Aries that I know have been super generous, very loving heart, but it is the first sign of the Zodiac. It is a sign of self. And then Libra is the seventh sign of the Zodiac, the sign of us, the sign of us and others. So you have this conflict. What do I need? What do we need? So we're going to be looking at that right off the bat, like the first week in October. We're going to be looking at what are my needs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then looking at the moon a couple of weeks later, on the 21st. That's when we have the new moon in Libra right and we're manifesting more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the new moon, I think, is going to be like 23 degrees. So if you have any planets, I would say from 20 degrees to 26 degrees, they're going to get activated by this new moon. I don't mean activated in some sort of negative way. The chart is just going to say hmm, let me look here.
Speaker 1:Sort of like it's time. It's time for this to come to the forefront. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 2:The full moon right at the beginning. That's at 14 degrees Aries. So give it from like 11 degrees to 17 degrees.
Speaker 1:Okay, give it from like 11 degrees to 17 degrees. Okay, and just side note, if you are listening and you're, I've been hearing more and more people say how do I know, how do I know? And you can, of course you know, find out on the internet what your placements are. Then you will want to go to an astrologer like Susan. You know you'll want to delve more in depth with a person who knows how to help you understand your placements. But if you just want to understand, like well, where are my Libra placements, you can look to the internet for that. I just wouldn't go much further. And, side note, I really wouldn't let artificial intelligence give you your birth chart reading, because it's going to be very much like looking at a textbook to see something about yourself. It's just not going to tell you what you personally need to know, although it is nice to learn more about your own chart that way, you know.
Speaker 2:One of my friends did one of those computer reports about your chart so she gave them all her information and she got back the report, very thick report details. So it said your moon is in Scorpio. And it said now you have to be careful about being vengeful and you have to be careful about carrying a grudge and you know you may want to get back at your enemies. And she's reading this. She said I thought it was such a nice person they think I'm horrible.
Speaker 1:She's like I'm a menace. I had no idea I was such a menace. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's not delivered with any kind of nuance, any kind of whole picture. What they're doing is taking each section and looking at this and then looking at this and they don't put it all together.
Speaker 1:It can give you a nice start, it all together which can kind of give you a good. You know it can give you a nice start. It's just like when learning the tarot it's great to read the books and and to learn the book meanings for each tarot card, but then you're going to want to go deeper, um, with some other other. You know more human teaching methods and more and more divinely led intuitive teaching methods. So just something to keep in mind. Side note, with all the technological advances we have Now for October season. Going back to the energies, I got this message from Archangel Michael here in my deck it's time to leave this unhealthy situation. So I feel like many people listening are going to be at a deciding point. Listening are going to be at a deciding point when we were talking about that choosing joy of leaving something that has been chronically not good for them. Something, whether it's a way of thinking, a way of living, a job, a relationship. It's going to be that time.
Speaker 2:I agree, and a lot of that is is thanks to the influence of Scorpio, which does not shy away from looking at an uncomfortable truth. You know, like, oh, she's never going to stop cheating. Or oh, he's never going to get his hundred thousand dollars worth of credit card debt under wraps. Or, you know, or oh, my boss is never going to promote me. They want me to stay in this position. You, just, you, can accept a difficult truth. You can look at it head on and say, okay, this is the reality, and we can look at it that way without it freaking us out. We just, we just calmly say all right, this is the reality. Am I going to accept it? Do I need to change it? We're in charge.
Speaker 1:We're in charge.
Speaker 2:What I love about October is like the last week in October, mars is still in Scorpio, but remember, right now we have Jupiter in Cancer, which is a water sign. We have Saturn, which has retrograded, just means backwards, has gone backwards, back into the sign of Pisces. So Cancer and Pisces are both water signs. That's a lot of water going on in the chart, a lot of emotion, and now we have the third water sign being activated by Mars and Scorpio. So it's like a big triangle, each one, each planet at a corner of the triangle, and they're all supporting each other. They're all encouraging each other, like here. Let me help you with that here. I'll hold that burden for you here. Here's how we come together.
Speaker 2:So this is an absolutely beautiful energy and one that we don't get that often. It is going to help us delve into our emotions. What is it that I really feel? What's going on here? So if you've been putting off maybe talking to a counselor or something, this is the time you do it. You're like you know what? I could use a little perspective. Maybe I'm going to go talk to a counselor, or maybe you start to share more. All this water energy is emotional and instead of just saying I'm fine, I'm, it's good, nothing to see here. Folks, we may start to see cracks in that and open up and say, well, you know what that really hurt my feelings or I'm struggling now, and when you start to share that emotional truth, other people rush in to help you.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that in itself may be the unhealthy pattern you're leaving. Is that pattern of denying your own feelings. You know that could be. It could be as simple as that Beautiful, and for many of us it will be yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of the things I love about this is that, in astrology, all of the water signs yes, they're emotional, but they are empathic and intuitive yes, they're emotional, but they are empathic and intuitive. And when you see a lot of water in the chart, bing, bing, bing, my little bell goes off. Pretty psychic, pretty intuitive. You may be working with it, you may not be working with it, but the energy is there, and so, as this energy comes in, you may get more interested in delving in. What are my intuitive gifts. Maybe I want to be a spiritual healer, maybe I want to be a professional psychic, maybe I really do have a gift for astrology or those cards or whatever it is. You start to pay more attention to those hits that come all along and we just deny them or ignore them yeah, and you people get frustrated.
Speaker 1:We get frustrated as humans with the collective struggle, with the state of things, and you know it can tend toward negativity, where it's just like this sort of sense of I give up or I don't want to be in this anymore, and that's very understandable, very human. But I am seeing a really beautiful new dawn coming, you know, toward the in the fall, but maybe toward the end of fall. I'm seeing this revelation probably after Scorpio season, because after Libra season we have Scorpio and that will continue to dive deep. And I'm seeing, with Sagittarius season, which is going to start in the middle of November or so, we will see that dawn come up of. Oh, now we get to live on a higher plane. It won't happen all at once, of course, but we'll start to see those glimmers.
Speaker 1:And that's what you're moving toward. You're moving toward a new way of living, a new way of being. It's not just about slogging through all the difficulty, you know. So this card came out. It says transform anger. So what? I'm seeing that, as is as we move through this next month or two, really remember that this is not just about enduring a storm or or dealing with crap, this and getting back to normal. This is about realizing that we are going through a collective transformation to arrive at something new, to arrive at something better, and that's the thing to focus on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Energetically, the United States is going through a second civil war Right now. We do not have you know the level of violence and cannons and you know to go off to war, but we definitely are in the midst. It's not pseudo or like. We're actually energetically in the energies of a civil war. And instead of the blue and the gray we have the red states and blue states, and instead of physical bullets we have verbal bullets fired at those on the other side. And some of what we are going through now is karmic for the United States because in the aftermath of our first civil war, the North did not treat the South very well and, sad to say, more than 100 years later, our country is still dealing with these wounds. So here we are, going through the same thing again and the question becomes are we going to make the same mistakes? Are we going to keep pointing fingers and judging and punishing, or are we going to be able to find a way of forgiveness and to reach out a hand? This is the opportunity we have, even though it may not feel like this Next year and, as some of you know, every year in January I give a predictions talk and I talk about what I think is going to happen in the year ahead.
Speaker 2:Oh, you should have heard my January talk this year. It was a doozy. And in January of 26, one of the things I'm already feeling is that 2026 is going to be in upheaval and chaos, but it is going to be easier than 25. So I don't understand why that level of chaos and upheaval is easier, but it is. And then in 27, it's easier, 28, it's easier, this is the toughest year.
Speaker 1:We've only got three more months for the toughest year I'm getting a glimpse of of some kind of some detail on that um. So energetically, like you're saying, we are fighting the battle right now. We are, um, exposing the truth, we are dealing with what needs to be kind of perched right and then, toward the end of the year, we'll start feeling the energetic dust settle and then, like you said, in January of 2026, when things start feeling an upheaval, that's because the physical world will be rearranging to reflect the energy changes, so that upheaval may look more like we're changing infrastructures, we're changing institutions, we're changing the way we do our physical stuff, we're changing what marriage looks like, what education looks like, what our landscape looks like, in a way so that it can reflect the new energies that we're ready to embody. So that upheaval is not going to look like destruction. It's going to look like the upheaval of when you're doing a remodel or you're adding on.
Speaker 2:That is a great way to phrase that. I'm going to steal that because I think that's a great way to language this and to put it forward. A remodel is is upsetting and it's chaotic and you don't know where anything is, and but you're moving towards something good and it's all part of the plan.
Speaker 2:It's all part of the plan yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and yeah, yeah, I definitely see that. Uh, when, when I was talking in january of this year, I we're going to see things happening this year that we've never seen before in our country. I think we can safely say that that has happened, and I'm going to say the same thing for 26. I see things happening in 26 we've never seen before, we've never had to deal with before, but I think we'll deal with that and I think we'll be making decisions that help to support our country and help us to start to move past some of the you know, I can't watch the news, I can't listen to this anymore kind of energy. So I definitely see the remodel of the United States beginning in 26. 27, it's better, 28, it's better.
Speaker 2:Remember, in 23, pluto moved into Aquarius for the world, not just for the US, but for us personally. For the world, and Aquarius embodies the energies of freedom, independence, equality. Have we seen those things in this country this year? Not so much. We've seen the opposite. We've seen the shadow side, and so Aquarius says no, I'm not accepting the shadow side, I'm not accepting kings and queens and dictators and whatever is out there kind of thing. We want freedom, independence and equality, not just in the US or Canada or South America, north America, but for the world. We're going to see more corporisings because people are going to want those qualities. This is going to play out over many, many years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and to give yourself a positive way of thinking of yourself in the context of all of this bigger picture. You can maybe imagine what it was like to leave England if you're an American and come to America and literally start that new country, With all of the ways that that was done, whether they were correct or not. It was definitely wild and it was definitely new and it was people trying to figure out a new way. New and it was. It was just it was people trying to figure out a new way, and that's the energy I see us moving into in the years ahead of. You know, it's going to be way different. We're not going to have a ton of um background um, it's not going to feel familiar, but it will feel like this I'm a part of building something very, very exciting and key. So you may want to kind of reframe the way you look at yourself and say, oh, I'm actually, you know, a settler of this new world, this new place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we came in for this time. We came in to be here. You know, I'm in my 70s. I thought I'd sort of be sitting in a rocking chair taking it easy in my 70s and, trust me, that is the thing for what is going on in my life. But we came in to be a light into the darkness. We came in to lift it up, even if we're confused, even if we're unsettled. When you are living your life with love and compassion and forgiveness and understanding, you are living your life's purpose, because underneath that's a purpose for all of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we really do get to see some things that are pretty cool. When we are eventually on the other side Again, we will look and say, yeah, that was pretty pretty. You know kick ass, I got to, I got to be a part of all that and um, yeah, so just kind of pull back, give yourself that context once in a while, just to we're moving into something we've never seen before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's our yeah. And think of world war ii. In the aftermath of world war ii, the world went on, but it was never the same again. It never went back to what it was before world war ii. It changed, it was transformed, transformed. We're going through the same thing. It's never going to go back to what it was before, and that's a good thing, because some things before and the way I see it, is like there was something rotting underneath that we were not aware of the corruption, the greed, the power mongering, the oligarchs. It was like rotting from underneath and we're just lauded out of that because we don't know. Yeah, and now all over the world, citizens are waking up, going oh wait, a minute, I don't think that's okay.
Speaker 1:So we're transforming something and no, it will not go back to what it was, but it will go forward into something newer and better that we can tell our children and grandchildren about yeah, and it is bittersweet, it's like outgrowing childhood and you're like, oh, I miss the bliss and the ignorance of you know that time and and the naiveness and yeah, but there's so much that we get to gain from being spiritually grown up and more wise and getting to just access more of the world and we get to now embody all the things that we want to see rather than just feeling like, well, you know, I don't have much power. We're all becoming more in touch with our own individual power to embody and use that embodiment of what we're choosing to change the world around us absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:This is what we are doing. This is one of the purposes that we were born for, that we chose to come in for, and we're going to see this play out over october, november, december. They're. They're going to be months of transformation and change, but we're going to be able to handle it and we're going to move into 26 with a new vibration and a new energy yeah, yeah, I would like to hear your insight on a more esoterical question regarding the astrological energies.
Speaker 1:um, so I've been learning you're always my mentor with astrology. I've been learning how each sign has its own masculine or feminine energy, and Libra is a masculine energy, and I'm seeing a lot in the cards about the masculine energy, you know, just in spiritual terms, within each of us being more connected from a heart space. So I just would love to hear anything you want to share about that masculine-feminine aspect. With the astrological energies, or Libra season in particular, what are you feeling coming to the surface there?
Speaker 2:well, I'm gonna say the masculine, feminine energy of a sign. It's very subtle. It's very subtle, it's not, um, you know, front and center, where you can't ignore it. It's like a little vibe that you know sits quietly in the background, kind of thing.
Speaker 2:I think right now, at this period in time, li Libra and all of the cardinal signs Aries, cancer, libra, capricorn. They're going to be activated Especially in October, because October has the Sun in Libra, it has Mercury in Libra, it has Jupiter in Cancer, it has Saturn, even though technically it's in Pisces right now, it's getting ready to go back into Aries soon. So a lot of cardinal sign leadership is ping ping, ping ping on the sign of Libra. So Libra may feel a little discombobulated right now, a little confused. Do I go here, do I go there? What's the right choice for me, what's the right path for me? I will also say, in October we have a lot of planets retrograde. You know, right now Neptune is retrograde and Saturn is retrograde and Uranus is retrograde and through the first half of October Pluto is retrograde, and so things don't move quickly.
Speaker 2:And Libra is so smart, so active, so proactive. When they reach a decision or want to do something, boom, they expect that to be happening now. I'm ready to go, I'm ready to do it. And for all of us, but especially for the cardinal signs, october may be a little slower than what we would like. Oh, we're ready to do this. Oh well, the person I want to do that with can't do that until November. Or oh, the bank can't see me until December, or I need to have this or that. It's delays, frustrations, because so many of the big, heavy hitting planets are like no, I'm on vacation. Talk to my secretary or my administrative assistant. So I'm going to say don't take it personally for any of these signs. If things slow down, it doesn't mean you're on the wrong path.
Speaker 2:It means the planets are not moving forward right now.
Speaker 1:And you know what. That interestingly makes sense with what I was asking, because when we're in masculine energy, we're in yang we want to go, we want to do, and I was seeing that energy connecting more from the heart space, which is yin. So even that masculine go-go is going to be turning more into the yin receiving being still Okay. That makes sense.
Speaker 2:Now I will say remember, I said the first half of October, Pluto is retrograde.
Speaker 2:Yes On the 14th, pluto turns direct. It's been retrograde for months. On the 14th of october, pluto is going to turn direct and it is in the sign of aquarius, so the energy becomes where is aquarius in your chart? This is why it's important with what libra libra? What india just said, is to know where those energies are in your chart. You don't have to be an astrologer, you don't have to love astrology. It's just important to know what area of your chart is going to be activated by this now, um and so you know that.
Speaker 1:you know that by seeing where the aquarius is, and if you don't have aquarius in your placements, you're going to look at the 11th house. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:But if you're a Libra, you're going to have this Aquarius energy on your fifth house, which is a lovely area, and I particularly like the fifth house. It's actually my favorite house, but don't tell the other 11 houses. But I love the fifth house because the fifth house is the area of the chart that reminds us to enjoy life. That says what do you want to do for pleasure? What makes you happy? Have a good time. So do you like to knit? Spend some time in October taking your knitting class or working with a challenging pattern.
Speaker 2:The fifth house is one of children and grandchildren, so it's a great time for family activities or to do things with the kids or the grandkids, maybe a trip to the mountains or the beach to have fun and enjoy yourself. It's very social. The fifth house likes people, so it's very social. So you may be doing things with friends. You may be reaching out for avant-garde people, because Aquarius loves to be cutting edge, loves to do things differently, loves to do things it's never done before. So it gives Libra that oh, you know, I'm going to learn vegetarian cooking or I'm going to go skydiving, I'm going to do something I've never done before, because Aquarius loves that. It gets excited about those kinds of things. You know Aquarius loves that.
Speaker 1:It gets excited about those kinds of things Now on the 14th yes, when Pluto goes direct on the 14th, will that also add to the transformational flavor of the month, because Pluto is about transformation?
Speaker 2:It will, it will, but in a very subtle way. Okay, okay, it will, it will, but in a very subtle way. Okay, okay, it'll be more down in the nose. Pluto is much more behind the scenes got. It is much more secretive. You don't see what it's doing until all the pieces are in. Playing them, boom, everything. Oh, you know pluto plays chess and mars plays checkers, so it's a bit different.
Speaker 2:But, yes, I'm excited about this because maybe there were some plans to go on a trip or to do something fun that got delayed and now, when Pluto gets activated again, it's like, oh, I'm going to do this, oh, I'm going to do that kind of thing. Aquarius loves friends and groups, so you may get interested in joining a group, starting a group, you know, being part of a collective voice. All of these things are going to get a little remember, it's only two weeks, so it's going to get a little more activated by Pluto, but as it goes on, it gets more and more activated okay, because then Pluto starts moving through those other energies and Pisces, it starts.
Speaker 2:No, pluto's going to stay in Aquarius for till 2043.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so what's the two weeks part?
Speaker 2:What's the two?
Speaker 1:weeks part.
Speaker 2:Oh, that the first two weeks of the month of October, pluto is retrograde, got it? And the second two weeks is moving forward more direct, so more it's like a long jam gets broken up. Now it will start to move forward and move into more degrees. Right now Pluto is like one degree.
Speaker 2:you know 30, it's at one literally but little by little, it starts to move forward, it starts to gain some speed, starts to be more active, starts to be stronger and we start to feel stronger and we start to use that. So whatever the aquarius energy is in our chart, we're going to notice us wanting to use it or work with it a little bit more than usual and do any of the other planets go direct in october?
Speaker 1:just pluto just pluto.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's pluto. Jupiter is still retrograde, sab. Saturn is still retrograde. Uranus is still retrograde. Little by little they will start to change. In November Jupiter is also going to go retrograde. So things may slow down a little bit or you may be a little frustrated, but it doesn't mean you're wrong. It doesn't mean you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing. It just means you're going to have to be a little bit more patient.
Speaker 1:Okay. So if someone is feeling frustrated in a certain area of their lives right now, they may want to look at well, where is this planet that's in retrograde? Does it have to do with that part of my life? Because maybe that's adding to some of the frustration. So often we go first to, you know, just the external. This person needs to do something different, or what am I doing wrong? And really, if we look at just like we were talking about with the weather and climate, well, you know that planet that does rule. This aspect of my life has been retrograde, so of course, I'm going to feel a little slowed down and frustrated. That can just help us have more self-compassion and compassion for other people to be like.
Speaker 2:Let me give some slack for now, you know I will say, and sensitive people and I don't see this in a lot of the astrology books, I'll just mention this to you from my own experience sensitive people and that's most of the people that are going to be watching this podcast tend to pick up astrological energies earlier than their announced arrival date. So if Pluto is going to go direct on the 14th of October, some of you may already be sensing some things start to open up or move forward. You know I usually do about one or two podcasts a month, but in like the last week or so, I've had requests for seven podcasts in 10 days. Like it's ridiculous, like what is going on. But each podcast is a partnership with somebody and where this new Pluto energy is going to fall in my area, it's going to be a partnership. So these new partnerships are coming forward saying, oh, I want to hear what you have to say about X, y and Z.
Speaker 2:So partnership can be subtle. You know, in some ways you partner with your job or your boss, you partner with your friends, you partner with your family, your spouse, business partners there's all different ways of doing that. So I'm noticing some things breaking up and happening. So look at where this Aquarius energy is going to be in your chart. There are all kinds of free places online. You know you don't have to have a professional astrology reading to find a place. Look Google free astrology chart. There's lots of places online. You can put in your information, get the chart. The symbol for Aquarius is the two wavy lines and you can see. Oh, that's where this is going to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there's a lot that's going to be starting, so you might be getting a reading because there's a lot going on astrologically yeah, and I would say the number one takeaway as a Libra, I would say the number one takeaway for October is lean on that Libra quality of just relax, Don't stress because Libra is pretty chill, let's just, you know, let that relaxation energy kind of move you through the month. Go a little easier on yourself, have some more compassion for yourself of the month. Go a little easier on yourself. Have some more compassion for yourself. You know, let that part of you that wants to always do it this way or always do it that way, let that part relax a little bit and just be somewhere in the middle in the lovely sweet spot you know for this month so that you can move through all this stuff right.
Speaker 2:So hopefully, between Indy and I, you now have a little bit better idea of what's going on in the month of October and how to use it in the best way possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we would love to hear your questions. You can send them to me. You can check out Susan at ExploreAstrologycom and ask her questions there and see her readings for the months, for all the signs and much more, and book book a session if you want to dive deeper into your astrology, and we will be connecting with you again next month season to hear about scorpio season okay, I cannot wait.
Speaker 2:Neither thanks, and we will connect later and tell us what happened for you in october yes, thank you.