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I love that."},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1700.49,"endTime":1702.26,"body":"I mean, you've"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1700.49,"endTime":1702.26,"body":"given me so many things to think"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1702.26,"endTime":1707.24,"body":"about. But scarcity mindset, to"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1702.26,"endTime":1707.24,"body":"me, what I'm hearing is, it's so"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1707.24,"endTime":1711.59,"body":"much more than just knowing that"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1707.24,"endTime":1711.59,"body":"there's abundance out there,"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1711.59,"endTime":1716.03,"body":"it's actually being active and"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1711.59,"endTime":1716.03,"body":"eliminating things that are"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1716.03,"endTime":1721.19,"body":"depleting that abundance. 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Or do I want to spend my"},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1730.37,"endTime":1733.4,"body":"time doing that, and that it's"},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1733.4,"endTime":1736.28,"body":"transformative when you realize"},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1733.4,"endTime":1736.28,"body":"and then take advantage of that"},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1736.28,"endTime":1736.76,"body":"power."},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1736.99,"endTime":1740.26,"body":"I always forget"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1736.99,"endTime":1740.26,"body":"that I have that power. And it's"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1740.29,"endTime":1743.47,"body":"always it's just really"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1740.29,"endTime":1743.47,"body":"affirming to hear that. So thank"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1743.47,"endTime":1747.88,"body":"you. I encourage everyone to"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1743.47,"endTime":1747.88,"body":"check out Nels website, social"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1747.88,"endTime":1752.23,"body":"velocity dotnet. She has a free"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1747.88,"endTime":1752.23,"body":"training series and it says"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1752.23,"endTime":1756.64,"body":"learn how to reclaim your power,"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1752.23,"endTime":1756.64,"body":"kiss scarcity, goodbye, attract"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1756.64,"endTime":1760.0,"body":"all the money you need, and"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1756.64,"endTime":1760.0,"body":"mobilize your networks in this"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1760.0,"endTime":1763.24,"body":"free training series. So that"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1760.0,"endTime":1763.24,"body":"looks amazing. Check it out"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1763.24,"endTime":1768.52,"body":"social velocity.net. It's right"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1763.24,"endTime":1768.52,"body":"on the front page. And I really"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1768.52,"endTime":1772.39,"body":"encourage all of you to check"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1768.52,"endTime":1772.39,"body":"out the book, check out the free"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1772.39,"endTime":1776.65,"body":"training connect with now on"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1772.39,"endTime":1776.65,"body":"LinkedIn. So thanks so much now"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1776.65,"endTime":1777.52,"body":"for being here."},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1777.55,"endTime":1779.74,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1777.55,"endTime":1779.74,"body":"much for having me, Julia. Love"},{"speaker":"Nell Edgington","startTime":1779.74,"endTime":1780.79,"body":"the conversations. Great."},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1788.17,"endTime":1790.78,"body":"Well, hey there."},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1788.17,"endTime":1790.78,"body":"I wanted to say thank you for"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1790.78,"endTime":1793.66,"body":"tuning in to my show, and for"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1790.78,"endTime":1793.66,"body":"listening all the way to the"},{"speaker":"Julia Campbell","startTime":1793.66,"endTime":1797.47,"body":"end. 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