The Sacred Speaks
Join depth psychotherapist and Jungian scholar, John Price, in an exploration of extraordinary stories and phenomena that lurk beneath the surface of normal and everyday life. Listen in as John interviews experts, dilettantes, sinners, and saints to explore their professional and personal perspective on the underlying purpose of the mysteries which lurk within the seemingly mundane nature of day-to-day life. John received his Master’s degree in clinical psychology and his Doctorate degree in Jungian psychology. He is in private practice and is also on the faculty of The Jung Center and The University of St. Thomas, both located in Houston, Texas. He lectures and teaches classes in subjects ranging from Parenting and Consciousness to Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll. This podcast seeks to accept a challenge laid out by Carl Jung: to explore the universal human feelings of emotional incompleteness, spiritual curiosity and one’s related search for wholeness and meaning. Interviews commence with the belief that, by engaging in this exploration, we can learn more about the psyche, consciousness, spirituality, philosophy and the profound, though often hidden, meaning of the day-to-day lives we lead (or which will lead us, if we aren’t watchful).Come along as John follows people into bars, universities, places of worship, financial districts and the home. He finds each context equally able to provide a setting for this worthy search and also that, through this process, we have an opportunity to come to know each other and ourselves much more deeply.
The Sacred Speaks
111: Ellen Petry Leanse – The Brain and Beyond
Interview begins @ 4:03
Ellen and John discuss the dual dynamics of the brain—analyzing the up/down, front/back, left/right structures—and how these reflect in our politics, gender roles, and broader societal interactions. Ellen shares insights from her early days at Apple, emphasizing the company's innovative spirit and its role as a pioneer in the digital space. We explore the complex differences between male and female brains, addressing the contentious debates surrounding gender and sex in neuroscience. A key theme of our discussion is the concept of mutuality over polarity, symbolized aptly by the yin/yang, suggesting that integration and cooperation lead to stronger societal bonds.
We also venture into the sensitive topic of "cancel culture," exploring its impact on ethical development and how it may stifle the diversity of thought. Ellen argues that many societal divisions, particularly around gender, are less pronounced in other cultures, offering valuable lessons on inclusivity. Ellen criticizes the tendency towards rigidity when curiosity fades, and discusses the neurological underpinnings of the "amygdala hijack"—the brain's threat response mechanism. We explore how these responses manifest differently in men and women. Finally, we touch on the intriguing subject of psychedelics and their role in returning us to a state of awe and wonder, emphasizing the transformative power of these experiences.
Bio:
An acclaimed Silicon Valley innovator, former Stanford University instructor, TEDx speaker, and published author, Ellen Petry Leanse works at the crossroads of creative and scientific inquiry. Her career at Apple established her as a digital pioneer and the catalyst of history’s first online connection between a technology company and its users. Continuing on this course, she challenged assumptions as an entrepreneur, as a leader at Google, in venture capital, and as a global innovation advisor. Ellen is the author of “The Happiness Hack” a neuroscience-based guide to life satisfaction, the originator of popular Stanford courses including “The Neuroscience of Creativity and Innovation,” a TEDx speaker (“Happiness by Design”) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5p3NC9OwB0), and a globally followed keynote presenter. She contributes articles on ethics, leadership, functional neuroscience, and gender equality to publications including Huffington Post, Business Insider, Inc.com, CNBC, Self, and Women’s Health. After leaving a C-level role at a technology company in 2022, she relocated to New Mexico to deepen her inquiry into indigenous philosophy and sustainable lifeways. During this time, her coaching practice shaped future-facing leadership for founders, C-Suite executives, non-profit leaders, and investors in the US, Europe, and the Global South. In 2023 Ellen launched “The Brain and
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