The Sacred Speaks
Join depth psychotherapist and Jungian scholar, John Price, in an exploration of extraordinary stories and phenomena that lurk beneath the surface of normal and everyday life. Listen in as John interviews experts, dilettantes, sinners, and saints to explore their professional and personal perspective on the underlying purpose of the mysteries which lurk within the seemingly mundane nature of day-to-day life. John received his Master’s degree in clinical psychology and his Doctorate degree in Jungian psychology. He is in private practice and is also on the faculty of The Jung Center and The University of St. Thomas, both located in Houston, Texas. He lectures and teaches classes in subjects ranging from Parenting and Consciousness to Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll. This podcast seeks to accept a challenge laid out by Carl Jung: to explore the universal human feelings of emotional incompleteness, spiritual curiosity and one’s related search for wholeness and meaning. Interviews commence with the belief that, by engaging in this exploration, we can learn more about the psyche, consciousness, spirituality, philosophy and the profound, though often hidden, meaning of the day-to-day lives we lead (or which will lead us, if we aren’t watchful).Come along as John follows people into bars, universities, places of worship, financial districts and the home. He finds each context equally able to provide a setting for this worthy search and also that, through this process, we have an opportunity to come to know each other and ourselves much more deeply.
The Sacred Speaks
118: Richard Rohr - The Tears of Things
Check out Richard Rohr’s latest book, The Tears of Things, where he explores the wisdom of the prophets and the realities of social sin.
In this episode of The Sacred Speaks, I sit down with Father Richard Rohr—one of the most respected spiritual teachers of our time. We dive into the significance of prophecy, the necessity of self-awareness in transformation, and the ways in which religion can both illuminate and obscure the path to truth.
Father Rohr shares insights from The Tears of Things, his latest book, which reframes the role of the prophets—not as finger-wagging moralists but as voices crying out against the deep, systemic sins that threaten to unravel society. Our conversation moves through themes of non-dual thinking, the dangers of religious idolatry, and how true spiritual growth requires both inner work and a commitment to the collective good.
Throughout the episode, Richard offers deeply personal reflections on his own spiritual journey, the necessity of sadness and self-doubt, and the ongoing process of transformation that never really ends.
Episode Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction and Announcements
(02:44) Richard Rohr’s Spiritual Journey and Early Influences
(08:21) The Franciscan Way and the Practice of Humility
(13:39) The Trap of Dualistic Thinking and the Ego
(18:43) The Power of Initiation and Rites of Passage
(35:00) The Role of Prophets in Society Today
(47:23) Understanding the Concept of Demons and Possession
(49:14) The Father Wound and Healing Parental Relationships
(50:23) The Prophets and Their Enduring Insights
(50:52) The Remnant and the Wisdom of the Minority
(53:27) The Problem with Majority Rule and Empires
(57:29) Personal Struggles, Doubt, and the Spiritual Journey
(01:06:17) The Role of Sadness in Awakening and Solidarity
(01:10:55) Medicalizing Sin and the Social Consequences
(01:14:49) The Prophet’s Vision and Its Relevance Today
(01:18:40) Reflections on Life, Death, and Spiritual Evolution
(01:27:52) Final Thoughts: Reward, Punishment, and the Nature of Grace
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Announcements & Updates
Exciting news! In May, I’ll be hosting my first online workshop, where I’ll explore key ideas from my upcoming book. This is a free offering, and if you want to be part of it, you can sign up when the new website is live @. www.drjohnwprice.com
You’ll have six weeks to register—don’t miss it!
Also, I’m getting back into a regular podcast rhythm—two episodes per month, including at least one solo episode where I’ll dive deeper into the themes of spirituality, psychology, and transformation. I’ve had a full year, but I’m excited to re-engage with these conversations and this community.
So, let’s get into it. Richard Rohr, welcome to The Sacred Speaks.