The Iconic Podcast
Join Jen Szpigiel, CEO and Editor in Chief of Becoming Iconic and Iconic Magazine weekly as she interviews industry moguls to provide you with the inspiration, insights and lessons for how to grow an iconic life and business for yourself.
Each episode will feature actionable steps, expert advice and personal stories to support you to spark, grow and scale your business as an entrepreneur.
This podcast is for the visionary leaders who are committed to creating their legacy, pursuing their dreams and achieving their goals beyond their current circumstance.
The Iconic Podcast sets itself apart through Jen’s unparalleled interview style, genuine curiosity and commitment to having women rise to their potential.
Formally known as the Becoming Iconic Podcast, this new iteration is dedicated to providing you with the most potent and powerful conversations with those who have overcome, prevailed and built their lives and businesses into the incredible success we see today.
Subscribe now and leave a review to be a part of this Iconic movement. Don’t forget to also check out this month’s magazine where we deep dive with the guests who are interviewed here.
The Iconic Podcast
Why Being Smart Is Stupid with Tricia Brouk
If being smart was the secret to success, more leaders would be thriving. The truth is, intellect alone can’t carry influence. Wisdom does.
In this powerful episode of the Iconic Podcast, Jen welcomes award-winning director, speaker coach, and author Tricia Brouk for a conversation that challenges everything you’ve been taught about leadership and intelligence. Drawing from her new book Being Smart Is Stupid, Tricia shares how self-awareness, compassion, and emotional intelligence build the kind of leadership that actually lasts.
This conversation moves beyond the idea of “knowing more” and into the art of presence: what it means to slow down, tune in, and lead from wisdom rather than reactivity. You’ll walk away with a renewed sense of grounded confidence and a deeper understanding of what true leadership looks like in practice.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
• The difference between smart and wise leadership and why it changes everything
• What it means to build relationship capital and why it’s the most valuable currency in business
• How to lead without reactivity and create space for clarity and trust
• The practice that helps you make better decisions and strengthen emotional intelligence
• Why letting go (not letting them) is the key to reclaiming your power
Mentioned in this episode:
• Book: The Big Leap
• The Wise Leopard’s Hot Flash Cooling Mist (Available January 2026)
Connect with Tricia:
• Website: triciabrouk.com
• Book: beingsmartisstupid.com
• Instagram: @tricia_brouk
• The Wise Leopard: thewiseleopard.com
Connect with Jen:
- Read the magazine here: @iconicmagazine__
- Hang out with Jen here: @becomingiconic
- See all your resources here: www.becomingiconic.co