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Episode 174: The Joy Frequency with guests, DJ Mitsch & Barbara Biziou

• Garry Schleifer

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What if joy is the most practical leadership tool you have? We sit down with spiritual alignment coach and global ritual expert Barbara Biziou and ICF Master Certified Coach and pioneer DJ Mitsch to explore how simple rituals raise our personal frequency, strengthen teams, and transform coaching results. From a live grounding practice to vivid stories from corporate workshops and community spaces, we show how release, gratitude, and celebration help people shift from constriction to creativity.

Barbara breaks down why rituals work: the brain responds to symbolic action as if it were real, which is why writing and burning a worry, or washing it away in the shower, frees capacity for better choices. DJ connects her broadcasting roots to the “map” of frequencies, explaining how holding joy—even for seconds—aligns thought, emotion, and action with the outcomes we want. We dive into the costs of shame on performance, the power of acknowledging micro-steps, and practical ways leaders can ritualize routine moments to build belonging and trust.

Across the conversation, science and spirituality meet. We talk space clearing to reset cues, playful team experiences that unlock innovation, and the rising importance of intuition as our most human technology. You’ll leave with tangible practices: choose a daily quality to embody, craft a release ritual, celebrate progress in the moment, and ask better questions—What do I want to make possible for the person in front of me? If joy is a frequency, this episode is a tuner.

Listen now, then share your favorite ritual with us. If the conversation resonates, subscribe, leave a review, and pass it to someone who could use a lift today.

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Garry Schleifer:

Welcome to Beyond the Page, the official podcast of choice, the magazine of professional coaching, where we bring you amazing insights and in-depth features you just won't find anywhere else. I'm your host, Garry Schleifer, and I'm excited to expand your learning as we dive into this recent article and have a chat with these brilliant authors behind it and uncover the learnings that are transforming the coaching world.

Garry Schleifer:

When you have a chance, join our vibrant community of coaching professionals as we explore groundbreaking ideas, share expert tips and techniques, and most importantly, make a real difference in our clients' lives and ours too, because the joy issue is all about that. Remember, this is your go-to resource for all things coaching. But in the meantime, let's dive into this episode. Today I'm meeting with Spiritual Alignment Coach Barbara Biziou and team coach DJ Mitch, who are the authors of an article in our latest issue, Coaching to Unlock Joy. The article they've written is entitled The Joy Frequency: How Rituals Can Help Tune into the Energy of Joy.

Garry Schleifer:

A little bit about Barbara. She's a spiritual alignment coach and global ritual expert who bridges ancient wisdom with modern living. Drawing from a rich background in fashion, television, and corporate leadership, she blends strategy, emotional intelligence, and spiritual depth to help people thrive. Author of The Joy of Ritual and The Joy of Family Rituals, she has guided Fortune 500 leaders, creators, and seekers worldwide. Her mission is to empower individuals and organizations with practical rituals that foster resilience, purpose, and profound connection in today's rapidly changing world.

Garry Schleifer:

DJ is a CMC and an MCC coach with ICF, an award-winning change agent, a thought leader in the business coaching field, founding member of ICF, and one of the first 25 MCCs in the world. As the sixth Ppresident of ICF Global, she led chapter development efforts beyond the US. As CEO of an award-winning coaching company and founder of Pyramid's Leadership and Healthcare Coaching Institute, DJ's core belief is that coaching has the power to change the global conversation. One leader, one team, and one company at a time. She has created the Team Advantage Team Coaching Program in 1995 and has certified thousands of professional coaches throughout the world. And I will add that if anyone exudes joy, it's DJ Mitch. Just follow her on social media, spend a moment talking to her, just catch the glasses.

DJ Mitsch:

There you go. There you go.

Garry Schleifer:

Then before we get started, Barbara, I would love it if you would give us a little grounding ritual to get us started before we actually get into this. So for those of you listening or watching, uh I hope you can have the opportunity to be with us for this. Barbara, over to you.

Barbara Biziou:

Sure. Okay. So very simply, just everybody close your eyes if you want, or you can keep them open and begin to breathe through the count of two through your nose. And then out through the count of four through your mouth. A few more times just breathing in, breathing out. Just let your body take in all the air it needs. As we set intentions today to access the source of all joy so that we are totally full of this vibration for ourselves and we can share it with all our friends, our family, our clients. It's almost like you have a dimmer switch inside, and right now you're gonna turn it up. Turn up your joy quotient, your light quotient so that anyone who listens right now or interacts with you receives this beautiful energy.

DJ Mitsch:

Lovely, lovely.

Garry Schleifer:

There we go.

DJ Mitsch:

There we go.

Garry Schleifer:

What a great start and a great example of a ritual. I'm guessing that both of you got together and were sharing rituals. What's a favorite ritual for each of you?

DJ Mitsch:

That's a great, great question. I will tell you, I met Barbara 17 years ago, which I can't believe it's been a long time and we interviewed her on the Mystic Grits and Matzobals podcast, which was one of the first of its kind with Laura Berman Fort Gang. So I just want to bring her into the spirit of this because she's another joy vod. But yeah, for me, there are so many rituals, but from putting the things that I've accomplished in a joy jar and looking back at them over the time. But when I met Barbara, I think we spent a lot of time and just looking at the casting of vision, right? One of the things I love to study is quantum theory and the field of interrelationships, of how everything is connected and how our thoughts become things. And just holding the space for that is one place. But she gave us an angel ritual, which is a three-day event where we actually create an altar and welcome the angels in. And the angels are then passed along to three other individuals somewhere around the world to welcome them into the homes and to ground light. And I'm being very intentional about bringing in the spiritual conversations because we're in a path of integration right now that is in a quantum field, accelerated, and is needed for all of humanity. So I'll just pass it to Barbara and let you talk a little bit more about the angel ritual, if you like, or the ones that you love most or the one you love most.

Barbara Biziou:

I think the one I do the most, I do release rituals all the time because I really have learned over the years that the brain doesn't know the difference between creating a release ritual and reality. So whether it's in my morning shower where I release concern for the day about a project, or I'm really upset about my son or something's going on, and I'll write everything I'm feeling and then I burn it. You know, I'm a huge believer, and I can remember actually, DJ, the first time I ever brought that into a corporate workshop. You know, I wasn't sure how anyone would respond to some wacko, right? And at the end of this workshop, that was the one thing that they all came up and shared with me, which was the most powerful. Because you don't realize sometimes how much you can hold. And just by doing these simple rituals, you make space. It's like you have a coffee cup and it's you know to the top and you can't put anything else in it, and then you drink some and you have more space. So as we make space for new things, miracles can come in, new things could come in.

Garry Schleifer:

Yeah. Well, thank you. And I can't help but think about another friend of ours, Janet Harvey. She has a saying, a pause gives more than it takes. I keep saying it, my clients are just like, and that pause in saying it in a way is almost like a ritual that I asked them to carry away. And now I think as a result of rereading this article, as if I haven't read it enough times getting it to the public, I think more and more of how important ritual is, and including with family and around special events, and you can make it up in the moment, like Barbara did for us today. It wasn't in the script, it just occurred that it would be a great idea. There's also what you illustrated in the article, so I can't help but think along that of frequencies and resonance with things. And you wrote about the the concept of high frequency states of being. Tell us more about that for the those that haven't read the article.

DJ Mitsch:

Yeah, so I was a broadcaster before I had this career, this now 31-year career in coaching. And in broadcasting, I sat down with an engineer when I first tried to understand why the height of a tower matter, you know, and getting the signal out to so many people who are listening, etc. And he walked me through the map of frequencies that happen across, you know, the terrain of land for AM amplitude modulation frequencies or frequency modulation in the FM in the line of horizon. And when I looked at it, I had this like awakening, like goosebumps. And it was clear that we have radio signals, megahertz signals running through us all the time. And our thoughts literally engage with that field, that energetic field. And from there, we create what we experience, we create our realities, we create the narratives, we create everything. And if we just can hold peace, if we can hold joy for 17 seconds, we align with the ability to create in the universe from the story we want to tell. And so the higher our frequency, you said something about joy, you know, joy's been my guiding word for two years in a row for a reason. I used love once upon a time. And when you say, I want to love more, going into the first of the year, love is your word. What you will find is you get are given a lot of opportunities to do difficult things in love. What I found with joy is that it becomes a North Star. It's a calibrating back to that energy that you want to bring, the passion you want to bring into the field. And it resonates at a frequency of 528 hertz, which is above the love frequency of 500 hertz, and on its way to. There are many different frequencies now that are measured beyond what David Hawkins did. In Vellum frequency, 928 hertz is a called the angel frequency. So as we are expanding our understanding of all that is in the field of energy, we are being able to tap into the frequencies in a way that can heal us, in a way that can have us come to a different level of understanding in the people we see in front of us. And we are being tested around that right now, right Barbara. But for for me, it's just looking at the scale. The other thing I want to bring into the field is the the frequency of shame is the lowest frequency on the planet. So if love and joy are in the 500s, enlightenment is up there, is above that. Shame is one of those things when we feel guilty or ashamed of ourselves or we shame other people. You should have done this. And I'm saying this to every leader who's listening. You should have, you should have puts people in a place of just clamping down energetically. And the frequency of that is one that we've all owned at some point, but it's hard to navigate out of because it's so dense, the energy is so dense. So we're dancing in the space of these things all the time, and it is a choice. It's a choice, Garry. It's a choice.

Garry Schleifer:

Which way am I going? There we go.

DJ Mitsch:

Right there. It's a choice. Because the more conscious we become, the more we can look at things that we're experiencing and go, well, that's not serving me, and then take our shower, like Barbara said, with her ritual and go, okay, I'm done with that. Let's wash that one out and let's choose again. And if I were joyful in this moment, what would I see that would be new? And for me, it's a constant asking the question that helps me navigate back to different choices. Barbara.

Barbara Biziou:

Well, I mean, I'm gonna piggyback on everything. I once worked with a company where the CEO believed in that so much he handed everybody t-shirts that said, stop shooting on yourself. Yes, I mean, it brought a little joy in, but I mean it put it in a different perspective because you know, you beat yourself up all the time. And it's like yelling at a kid when they're learning to walk. You know, you had enough chances, stop falling. You know, it doesn't work. But if you can have some humor and joy in in the whole thing, then you expand. And I actually had a client who's developed a company, it's called Slumu, for those of you who know there's five of them now in the United States. They may be opening in Canada, and it's slime. It's an experience where you go and you play with slime. So you would think it's just for kids, but no, companies bring their teams there, and in just the experience of playing with slime and joy, you could have a slime shower, you could do this. All of a sudden, these new ideas come up because that's where that innovation comes when you're in that playful, joyful energy. You're not trying to figure it out, you're open, your intuition is on high, you know, steam, which by the way, to me, that is the one skill we all need to develop in 2026 more than anything. We need to become the technology. Our intuition is crucial, and you can't get it through beating yourself up. You need it through the silence, through the joy, through the pauses, as you said, Garry. So it's all kind of coming together, and we have more fun and we create better things, right? I mean, we're having a good time right now.

Garry Schleifer:

Right, exactly.

Barbara Biziou:

We're just putting that energy. Anybody who's listening is having a good time. So it's contagious.

Garry Schleifer:

Yeah, awesome. Thank you.

DJ Mitsch:

Everything's contagious. Well, I mean, shame is contagious, you know. So joy is contagious, and we want to be around people who have that kind of energy, right?

Garry Schleifer:

So we went to a really low frequency, we went to really high frequency. Where do rituals fit in? Does it help us get from the bottom to the top? What the role of rituals?

Barbara Biziou:

The role of ritual for me is taking the pause, as you said, learning to make every moment sacred and special. This doesn't have to be religious at all. And it helps you transition from one state to another. So, I mean, just think of all the rituals we all do. We graduate from college, we get our driver's license, you know, we're going into different transitions, but most of the time we don't really acknowledge that, which is a great way of not necessarily being high or low, but just being able to have the energy. It's like filling up your tank with gas as opposed to driving around with a quarter tank of gas. Fill it up, and then you can move in different directions. You can create and you can adjust so that, like you said, I love just making up, DJ knows this. I mean, I have hundreds and thousands of rituals I've studied, I've learned, I've taught, but I'm always making up new ones. You know, I was at the , where was I yesterday? We went down to a park and there was a stream, and I turned around to my friend Liz and I said, Oh, let's just pick up rocks now and let's put into the hold the energy in this rock anything that we're letting go of, because there was a lot of bad news yesterday, and you know, we were feeling it. And we said, let's just release this heaviness, and we just threw it into the water, and immediately we opened up some space, you know. So it's things as it could be as simple as that, and gratitude is a great ritual for you know. I mean, we all know that when you treat somebody well and you honor where they're doing, even if they're just trying, they try harder, don't share, you know. Collaboration again is a big theme in 2026. So for those of you who do know, don't know in Chinese astrology, it's the year of the fire horse, it's a one-year in numerology, meaning a whole new beginning. And we have the opportunity to do things different and to do things more in community that help other people. It's not just me, me, it's we, and I think that's a big shift, and that's where the joy comes in. The more we could do it joyfully, the faster it's gonna happen, right?

Garry Schleifer:

That's why I collaborate on every issue of choice. I find myself a co-leader and away we go and work together, and it's so much more fun, and keeps me accountable too, by the way.

DJ Mitsch:

Yeah, I think I've never done anything alone. You know, I write articles, I bring you people, Garry, that I want you to meet. So when I reached out to Barbara to do this article, it's because I've experienced her work over now, you know, two decades. I love her. She's been in my home, and one of the rituals she did with me was in making a transition that I was going through. We have a bridge in our backyard that's over a little creek and we started in our swing that's on the other side of the bridge and started walking back. And she had me do a release exercise and leave behind a rock, a stone, and walk into the new space with my new intention. And I felt that freedom that she talks about. So doing this with your clients, with your teams, really important. Doing that even in conversations with each other, with your families around the holidays can be really a meaningful experience. So, yeah. So continue to look at that, at the experiences you want to have. And I love that you make them up in the moment, Barbara, and so do I. But the collaboration, yeah, because I've learned from you and the collaboration pieces, you know, when we look at the world that we're inhabiting, we are collecting islands of sanity, islands of people like us, of sanctuary, where if we share our rituals, it's like lighting another candle, right? That burns bright in their communities and their families. And that may be for me the visual to hold right now because it is real easy to go spiraling down with the population, right?

Garry Schleifer:

Right. Yeah, true. How true.

Barbara Biziou:

And also another point I just want to make sure, because you brought up in the beginning how you know energy is contagious. So I worked in TV for many years, and one of the things that I learned is that, you know, after we had guests, I did a lot of you know, talk shows and stuff, is I needed to clear the energetic space because people, whether they're happy, sad, or whatever, they leave that energy in the space, you know. So whether it's in your home, your apartment, your office, and so as another kind of adjunct to bringing joy in what I'm doing, I wind up doing a lot of space clearings now with very big companies. They they want to start the year fresh. And it's not that it's bad or good, it's just doesn't belong there, it's not useful anymore. It's old energy, old energy. So to do it for your home, to do it for your clients, so that you're starting fresh. And as you said, each moment is an opportunity to make a new choice. Right now is the most important moment of our lives because right now we're getting to plan our future, to make choices that will move us in a different direction. So using everything we've talked about, what works for you, what doesn't work, throw it out. But what works, you know, just pull it in, make it your own, and life becomes brighter, more fun, more joyful, and more meaningful, I think.

Garry Schleifer:

Yeah. Oh, thank you. Well said. I want to go back a little bit to the conversation about gratitude. I want to know more about that. We talked about frequencies and energy. You write that it shifts the energy. How does it do that?

DJ Mitsch:

Yeah, so in my experience, the minute that I stop and I say gratitude for heart space, I can almost feel like you know, thank you for being for me today. I know I don't pay attention, it's an unconscious thing, but thank you. Thank you for doing your job, right? The gratitude for all of life. For me, beauty is one of my highest values when I am outside and in nature, I behold beauty and I go through a hike with complete gratitude and I do that in my work, you know, with the people that I am privileged to coach and the teams that I'm privileged to coach. And so it's gratitude just raises the frequency, the energy. It has its own map into that field, that quantum field of energy and and interconnectedness. I think it's been mapped, but it's somewhere in the space of between joy and love. So, yeah, Barbara, what would you say about gratitude and your experiences and the rituals you hold for it?

Barbara Biziou:

You know, again, I notice, yes, in the coaching field, because it's very important, to have gratitude for those little tiny steps, those little things we do. We tend to pay so much attention to those big goals and we forget you showed up today, you're committed today, you know, you you drank your tea today, you washed your hair today, whatever you did, you made one phone call, you know, to start to honor those small little steps because those build foundations. And we all know, you go to a restaurant and you thank a waiter or a waitress, and all of a sudden they're smiling at you because people don't take the time to thank them. They're only giving them orders. And especially in business, when you take the time to thank someone in the mailroom or, you know, just anybody, it just changes the energetic frequency. And then they are more apt to want to help you and they want to listen to you, you know. S I grew up in New York, and we used to have these talk and listen buttons in these old buildings. So to get someone so you had to press the talk button and say, I'm here, and then you had to press the listen button and they'd say, We're letting you in. But guess what? Most people don't press the listen button anymore, they're only on the talk button. So the gratitude part comes in also for the listening, and just to, like I said, for all of us just to say, gee, good job. We showed up today. I think that's pretty amazing, and that's what moves us forward.

Garry Schleifer:

Thank you. I keep going back and forth, but I'm sure you're gonna follow with me. Is when you're talking about rituals, gratitude can be one of them, obviously. We hear people say, write a gratitude journal, start a gratitude journal and things like that. But when I hear ritual, I also hear celebration in your examples, by the way, celebration and acknowledgement. Are they the same or there is there a distinction, a clear distinction between ritual, because you talk about graduation, right? So that's a ritual, but it's also a celebration.

Barbara Biziou:

Right. Well, celebration can be part of a ritual. I mean, to me, the bigger picture of the ritual is taking the time to honor whatever is going on. So whether it's something sad that you're acknowledging, whether it's a joyful occasion, a lot of times they're mixed, you know, blessings where people are, I mean, DJ knows, I've done rituals for people who are moving to the next level. So they're part of them is leaving something old behind and opening up to something new. But the overriding container is it's like a carriage or a can or a boat that will move you from one place to another. And also I like the fact with ritual that we're also bringing in community and honoring each other and the community and the earth. So it's not necessarily just personal, it's also collective. But yes, of course, all of those could be part. And the only difference between, " a routine and a ritual" is the consciousness behind it. So if you say you're gonna do at your office Friday pizza to bring your whole office together, you know, on one hand, people could think it's a routine, but with the intention that it's gonna bring people together and bring more joy and acknowledgement, that's a ritual.

DJ Mitsch:

So ritualizing routines.

Barbara Biziou:

You could ritualize routine, exactly. You were conscious about it. Yeah, yeah.

DJ Mitsch:

I think that's the piece, is that there is an awareness, right? Evoking awareness is one of our core skills, as you all know, and that we're getting to a place where we make choices based on an ever-evolving awareness. And we see it in our clients, but we also learn from our clients and learn from the space of coaching, and we are doing more of it ourselves. And when we do that, you know, the collective is then moving up, and we still are such a small part of what's happening in the world. So our power in this has got to be in the hand holding and the collaborations and the putting the word out, right? That this is a possibility. Yeah, right.

Barbara Biziou:

And what I love about this whole conversation is we're talking about very corporate, traditional to much more spiritual to health, to wellness. You know, it's all kind of coming together. To me, spirituality and science has come together. What I learned from shamans and whatever 30 years ago, now neuroscience agrees with me and is telling me this is why it's true. And I love the fact that I can now talk to people through the lens of neuroscience and spirituality. Yeah, and it's really the same thing.

Garry Schleifer:

Joy isn't woo woo anymore, listeners. It is scientifically proven.

DJ Mitsch:

And not only joy, but coaching, which reminds me when I opened the conference in 2001 in Grinewell, Switzerland. I have flown overnight from Kennedy to Zurich with a woman who entered the plane, the last person, a little red raincoat. She was celebrating her 85th birthday. And as we traveled to Zurich, we had this delicious conversation, including red wine and dark chocolates. Yeah, it was a great ritual. And I said to her, What takes you to Zurich? And she said, I'm going to celebrate my birthday, my 85th birthday with my sisters who are turning 92 and 94. Wow. And I said, Gosh, what's the best part of that? She said, Well, the best part is I don't care what people think of me anymore. She said, I am doing the work I want to do. I hold babies whose mothers can't care for them at NYU in the hospital. She's from New York. And she said so, and I said, What's your name, Sonia? My name is Sonia. Then she turned to me and said, What is it that you're going to Zurich for? And I said, I'm going to preside over and welcome 468 new people to this field we call coaching. And I will be translated in five languages, actually 17 languages, but five from the stage, in my welcome address. And I'm trying to figure out what to say. What is this thing called coaching? She said. And I told her my best ICF definition at the time, and she looked at me and said, Coaching is too harsh a word for what you do. What you do is guide people to their inner wisdom before they're five years old. So I tell that story, I'm interpreted in the room, and I realize we speak to the culture before we speak to the human beings. And then the other thing that happened is I'm telling that story three months later, Garry had a conversation among masters, and a gentleman named Label Braun, who was Organizational Effectiveness PhD a lot of work in neuroscience, uh, he came up to me and tapped me on the shoulder. He said, I want to thank you for telling that story, but you had no idea what just happened. And I said, What? He said, Sonia is a derivative of Sophia. You traveled with the goddess of wisdom. And then he said, What happened to her when you got off the plane? I said, You know, that's funny. She disappeared. I didn't see her claim bags. We had had this. He said, Because she wasn't there. Then he said, The reason I know this is that 85, he did the numerology on this. He said, She gave you three keys to understanding that technology and spirit are coming together. She gave you the Microsoft Network certificate, and then she gave you the three numbers. 85 resolves to the level of consciousness that we are attaining. It is a number that you will see over and over again during this period of time. So it resolves, Barbara, I think to seven, right? Then the 92 is resolving to a time that was predicted to come about after the year 2000, and we're now in that space. And he said, you know, this is a time that you are going to be called forward. All of you who are light beings, light workers are going to be called forward into the space. And 94 is an angel number. He said, it is a number where all that is, will ever be, is coming into discovery, and it is being guided to those of you who seek it. So when I started with the angel rituals being one of my favorite with Barbara's, it's because when I am conscious of calling in the world of spirit into my space, you know, some of us think we live there all the time, and we do, but when I'm conscious of it, there's something dramatic that happens. So I think that rituals are going to be a home base for coaches going forward because we're here to carry this light, to wake people up. We are a part of the awakening, and I see that as tremendous responsibility and joy. That's all I have to say about that.

Garry Schleifer:

Yeah.

Barbara Biziou:

No, I'm in it.

Garry Schleifer:

Wow, thank you for sharing that. Oh, I had goosebumps over that one.

Barbara Biziou:

Yeah, that's fabulous. And all the numbers, and as I said, 2026, you know, in astrology, if for those of you who follow it, there's going to be a configuration that has not been seen in 6,000 years, coming somewhere in the spring. So we're talking major, major changes and ability to really shift, even though it looks very dark on many levels right now. There's cracks of light, you know. Good old Leonard Cohen. You know, you can see the light coming through. It's really, we have the ability to shift things. And I see, especially younger people when we're coaching them, really care about grassroots community. They really care about helping the earth and making a difference and you know, giving back. So I start to see that shift. There's a lot of hope. And again, the more joy they have doing it. I watch them get up and dance at sunrise. I have another clinic called Daybreaker, and they dance at sunrise. You know, it's a whole sober dancing kind of thing. Hundreds of people come all over the country, all over the world to dance and come together and set vision for what they want to build community. It's beautiful.

Garry Schleifer:

Yeah, wow. Oh my gosh. Unfortunately, we're gonna have to start heading down the garden path of closure on this ritual of mine called the Choice Beyond the Page podcast. I normally say this, and I would like for you to contribute to a change in the way I say this, because it has a word in it that I think is not relevant to today's conversation. Normally I say, What would you like our audience to do as a result of the article in this conversation? And I don't think the word do is appropriate today.

DJ Mitsch:

I would invite everyone to be at the table of learning together. What do you want them to believe and to hold as a belief of possibility? You know, in the front of the article, I said something about coaches are among many things, many archetypes, purveyors of hope and possibility. And I think we've got to look at what are we holding possible? And I would just ask that your listeners take that. You know, what are you holding as a possibility for yourself and those you touch? You know, at one point I felt like I wasn't doing enough, and I sat in my bathtub where I do all my other rituals and sort of grounding out.

Garry Schleifer:

Yeah, it's well, it's water, it's water, grounding, cleaning, water, and cleansing, grounding, but uh it was like, what am I to do now?

DJ Mitsch:

And the message that came clearly into my consciousness was just love the people in front of you. I thought I can do that, right? So what is what is it we're making possible, Barbara? What would you add or say?

Barbara Biziou:

And also, how do you want to feel? You know, so what quality do you want to bring into your life today? You know, every morning to choose a quality. Maybe maybe it is more joy, maybe it's adventure, whatever. What quality? How do you want to start to feel? So, you know, the ancient Egyptians always believed the heart brain was much more important than the head brain. That is when they mummified the pharaohs, they took the head brain and threw it away and kept the heart brain because they thought it was more important. So be in your heart. What does your heart say? What do you you know, put your hand on your heart and go, what do you want me to feel today? You know, what would help me? What would bring joy? Yeah.

Garry Schleifer:

Thank you both. What's the best way to reach each of you?

Barbara Biziou:

My website, barbarabiziou.com or on LinkedIn at Barbarabiziou. Either one would be great.

Garry Schleifer:

Awesome. DJ.

DJ Mitsch:

Yeah, so DJ Mitsch and that's LinkedIn. Coach DJ Mitch in several places.

Garry Schleifer:

I think it's easy to find DJ Mitsch.

DJ Mitsch:

Yeah, www.pyramidresource.com, which is our home site and holds the School of Healthcare Coaching Institute where we're training physician leaders, administrators to look at health in a whole new way and to coach the people who work with them. So that is changing healthcare, which is, you know, it touches everybody, and it's 25% of the US. So yeah, yeah.

Barbara Biziou:

I was gonna say one other thing too, because I'm a big believer in starting out. I love to give away free meditations. So anyone who wants any, just go to my website and you'll see a lot of free things that you could download.

Garry Schleifer:

Awesome. Thanks, Barbara. Thank you.

Barbara Biziou:

Thank you, Garry.

DJ Mitsch:

Thank you, Garry. You're such a great interviewer, and it's always fun. Yeah, it was always fun. And Barbara, it's great to be with you holding hands in this space. As I love, I love you.

Barbara Biziou:

It's time for our annual ritual again. Yes, I'll send it to you, Garry.

Garry Schleifer:

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