Sesi and Paddy are joined by Ciaran McDonnell, Hannah Travers and Mimi Li, vascular surgeons across the grade spectrum for an interesting and insightful discussion around the workforce challenges that faces vascular surgery both now and in the future but also offer some solutions being considered and implemented by the Workforce Committee, Rouleaux club and the wider vascular community. Listen out for a light-hearted but well off the mark prediction of a famous rugby match from Ciaran!