196: 4 Years, 777 Posts, Bygone Bondi, FineWoven FindMy, and Pro Mothers 🥽

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https://youtu.be/zmTY87mOFP0

In the News blog post for May 9, 2025:
https://www.iphonejd.com/iphone_jd/2025/05/in-the-news777.html

00:00 Celebrations: 4 Years and 777 Posts!
01:47 Thank you LIT SOFTWARE for sponsoring this episode!
02:19 Bygone Bondi Benefits
12:20 18.5 Coming Soon!
15:28 Can I Get a Book Book?
26:33 HDMI to iPad
30:46 FineWoven FindMy
34:44 Voice Assistant AI
40:24 Thank you LIT SOFTWARE for sponsoring this episode!
49:28 In the Vision! Pro Mothers
57:35 Where Y’at? Segment - Parking Lot Fall
59:35 In the Show! Mo’ Shows!
1:05:37 Brett’s iTip: Siri, Flip a Coin…
1:07:14 Jeff’s iTip: Apps Behaving Badly

Sponsor: LIT SOFTWARE www.litsoftware.com

Jeff’s Review: TimelinePad — create and present interactive timelines

Jason Snell | Six Colors: The iMac spirit lives on in everything Apple does

Ryan Christoffel | 9to5Mac: iOS 18.5: Five new iPhone features are coming next week

Dan Moren | Six Colors: Kindle app now provides “Get Book” button

Sarah Perez | TechCrunch: Patreon’s app can now accept web payments after US App Store changes

Fernando Silva | 9to5Mac: Turn any iPad into a gaming display with this one simple trick [Video]

Bradley C | 9to5Mac: MagSafe Monday: ESR’s Geo Wallet Boost nails Find My and card capacity

Fernando Silva | 9to5Mac: I tested iPhone AI voice assistants: here’s the best one

A Gift for Mom | Shot on iPhone in Spatial Video | Experienced on Apple Vision Pro

Zac Hall | 9to5Mac: This reader says his Apple Watch saved his life—make sure yours is set up too

Brett’s iTip: Siri, Flip a Coin…
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/01/25/siri-coin-toss-roll-dice/

Jeff’s iTip: Apps Behaving Badly

Quit and reopen an app on iPhone
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/quit-and-reopen-an-app-iph83bfec492/ios

Force restart iPhone
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/force-restart-iphone-iph8903c3ee6/ios

Delete and Reinstall app

Chapters

• 0:00 Celebrations: 4 Years and 777 Posts!
• 1:47 Thank you LIT SOFTWARE for sponsoring this episode!
• 2:19 Bygone Bondi Benefits
• 12:20 18.5 Coming Soon!
• 15:28 Can I Get a Book Book?
• 26:33 HDMI to iPad
• 30:46 FineWoven FindMy
• 34:44 Voice Assistant AI
• 40:24 Thank you LIT SOFTWARE for sponsoring this episode!
• 49:28 In the Vision! Pro Mothers
• 57:35 Where Y’at? Segment - Parking Lot Fall
• 59:35 In the Show! Mo’ Shows!
• 1:05:37 Brett’s iTip: Siri, Flip a Coin…
• 1:07:14 Jeff’s iTip: Apps Behaving Badly

Transcript

Welcome to In The News for May the 9th, 2025. I am Brett Burney from appsinlaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhoneJD. Hey, Brett, how are you doing?

I'm doing OK. You're in Chicago right now. If you see...

I am in Chicago.

Tell the new Pope I said hi. I don't know if he's there in the back of the phone right now.

If I see him come by on the Pope Mobile, I absolutely will.

Man, lots of news this week. I mean, several celebrations. I mean, first you mentioned the

Pope, of course, I'll say hello. You wrote your 777th edition of In The News post.

And today also, Marks, I think year number four, we have been doing this podcast. Is that...

Can that be correct, Jeff?

Seems weird. It was the... But it was the second week of May, four years ago in 2021.

Gosh, it doesn't seem like it's been that long. And you know, what's funny is I was reminded as...

Incredible.

I was looking at it that we... When you and I recorded the podcast, you had this crazy idea

of doing a podcast. I'm like, Brett, and your crazy ideas. So we tried an episode of it just to

see how it would work.

Just to see.

And we didn't tell anybody. And so I don't know who listened to that first episode.

And then we recorded a second episode and it still seemed to work.

And so the time that I announced it, yeah, in fact, I think you might be showing one of the

posts. The first post that I did about it was just before we recorded our third episode. I'm like,

OK, I guess this is working. We'll tell people about it.

So if anyone out there actually listened to the first episode, bravo to you because...

Yeah.

I doubt that.

Thanks for sticking around.

Or something like that. Yeah. So anyway, but it is interesting how the past of time,

it's been four years. Four years, Brett, that's like an entire college, entire high school.

That's...

That's amazing. And I am still having so much fun, Jeff. And I appreciate you every week that we

get... We're able to get together and nerd out on some of these things. We even are appreciative

of the sponsors that we've had. Just want to say a quick thank you to Lit Software, litsoftware.com.

They make the fantastic Lit Suite of apps for the iPad, which also can run on the Mac today.

We've talked about TrialPad, TranscriptPad. We even talked about Doc ReviewPad. And today,

a little bit later, we'll talk about TimelinePad, which is their brand new

app that's pretty amazing. You did a great review of it. We'll come back to that.

I'm excited to talk about that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's continue to take a little bit of a walk down memory laid. You had a couple of

posts today that I just was smiling about. First of all, you link to a story by Jason Snell

at Six Colors. He also writes for Macworld. The iMac spirit lives on in everything that Apple does.

And if you remember, I'm showing the picture here. This is this iconic... I mean, I was referencing

it as the Bondi blue iMac, right? Although I know there was other colors. But he's writing about this

because it was 27, 27 years ago this week. Steve Jobs took the stage at the Flint Center

in Cupertino to unveil the first new product since he returned to Apple. And that was the original

iMac. Yeah. I tell you, that was... Now, I'm trying to think that was 1998. Were you even using Macs

at that time, Brett? Or were you a PC person back then? I don't think I was. Not just because,

you know, where I was working at the time was like it wasn't even allowed. Like at that point,

you know this. At that point, somebody who had asked that question, you're like, you will look

at them like, are you crazy? Like, I'm not going to use a Mac. Not from a... You know, I don't do

drawings or movies. I mean, I do serious work. So of course I don't use a Mac. That was the

general take at that time. My original Mac I purchased a year earlier in 1988, which was

Mac Plus. But I remember I was living in one at the time. I was a young associate at my law firm.

Now, we were one of the few big law firms in the country to actually use Macs. But when that

changed a few years later, but when that first iMac came out, I mean, we have never... Now,

everybody knows what it looked like and had the clear blue plastic that was colored. But nobody

had seen a computer like that. Like the idea that this computer would seem so personal and all in

one and there were the Jeff Goldblum narrated ads that, you know, all you do was just plug it in

and start. And so that original iMac was key. But it was really key to Apple because Apple was

literally on the brink of bankruptcy. Like people were predicting Apple's going to be gone.

And thank goodness it wasn't. And Steve Jobs had this idea that we have too many Macs. It's too

confusing. He had the very simple product grid, a desktop and a laptop for the consumer, a desktop

and a laptop for professional. And so this was the first of those. This was the desktop for the

computer, which was the iMac idea. And it looked distinctive. It was very forward looking. It did

not have a floppy drive, which at the time seemed like heresy not to have a floppy disk drive.

USB, which had been around, but nobody was really using USB at the time. And it's funny that, you

know, all these years later, people, you know, we have USB-C now, but people still regularly use

USB. I do. That's a stuck around for a very, very long time. I mean, the other standards back then,

you know, scuzzy ports and stuff like that are long gone. And so the iMac, I think it gave some

freshness to Apple. It really was an innovative computer that was approachable for people. It

was incredibly popular. And it was the start of Apple coming up with really good products that

people really wanted to use again. A couple years later, we had the iPod, then of course, the iPhone,

the iPad, and the rest is history. And now Apple is one of the most, you know, profitable companies

in the world. You know, but that transition from the 90s is just crazy. So this computer came out

in '98. I didn't get that very, very first one, but I think it was the second generation one.

They had one called the iMac DV, which I had a pill picture that I found myself that I got in my

birthday. So it was in November of '99. Look at little young Jeff Richardson there. That's so great.

I look at the same thing today. I don't know what you're talking about. You can't tell the difference.

But that idea, that particular computer was interesting because it was called DV because

you could have a, it had a DVD drive in it and you could actually use it to make some very simple

movies and stuff like that. And in fact, at the time, I didn't have a way in my house to play

DVDs. The only thing I had was this computer. And I remember that for my birthday, along with the

computer, I had gotten a DVD of the movie. I think it was the Matrix, if I remember correctly,

the original movie. And so like to watch a DVD just seemed so futuristic to me. I mean, nowadays,

you know, whatever. But at the time, it seemed like, oh, this is the future of movies. It's a

DVD and I'm putting it in my computer and stuff like that. It was crazy. So anyway, it was a fun

article that Jason wrote about, you know, how that helped to turn around Apple. And here we are

this many years today. It really is. And I love how Jason has this picture here. That's his iMac.

I'm sure that's one of his original iMacs. It is because he loves the word color. Yeah. Right.

But we still have the iMac today. And it's just like, look at this comparison here, right? I mean,

it's just a thin sheet. When the iMac, I mean, there is still that idea. I think this is his

point, a lot of his point and his story is that it's still an all in one, right? I mean, there

were other all in ones. I remember HP came out with an all in one PC and, you know, others have

tried it as well. But no one was as successful as the iMac continues to do that today. But I mean,

like you said, it was just, well, I remember seeing the ads for that Bondi blue, like there was just

never a computer like this was a world of beige boxes. And it wasn't exciting at all. And when

this came out, people looked at it and that just sort of reinforced this idea that's like, okay,

this is not for serious work. But, you know, look at where we are today. I mean, it's just

an amazing that we see iMacs everywhere in professional settings as well. Yeah, it's the

name too, Brett. It's the only, I mean, just product name, that's right. But there is no other

computer name or product name that's older than iMac. Because, you know, back at the time, you had

things like Power Mac and, you know, all those other sort of names that have gone. Yeah. You know,

but iBooks eventually. But, you know, in terms of product lines, you know, they didn't have

Macbooks back then, they didn't have anything else. But the iMac name lives on and it's not

just the name that lives on. I mean, today's iMac, as you point out in this picture, looks so,

so different from that original ones. But the spirit is the same. It is, it's approachable.

It's all in one. It's everything you need right there. You get on the internet, you do your work.

So the idea of it, even though the look is the same, I think, you know, today's iMac is just

as much of an iMac as the original one. So it's interesting and long live the iMac. I hope it

sticks around forever. I love the iMac. You were remembering your iMac DV. You were also remembering

your very first iPad mini. Let's see, when did you review this? 2012. But I just like your little

post here, one of your bullet points. You found it over this past weekend. You were, you were trying

to like run it. But of course, things are a little bit out of date for that original iPad mini.

So the reason I found it, Brett, is that my wife was collecting electronics that needed to be

recycled, you know, old stuff. Oh, and so she had like a box of things in there. There was like an

old, old Apple watch and some other things that we were just putting in there for the next time we

were bringing for recycling. And she had the iPad mini in there, which I hadn't seen in forever. And

I'm like, oh, look at this thing. And when you pick it up, she didn't even ask you. Yeah. Have you

ever, have you ever owned an iPad mini over the years? I did. I had the original. Yeah. So you know,

so I mean, long, long, long ago, I had given it to my wife to basically just to use as an e-reader,

you know, for Kindle books and stuff. Sure. Exactly. And even she hadn't used it. But I was

surprised that it still had power because she had tried to charge it to see if it still worked and

did. And so, you know, just holding the thing in my hand, it's so cute and it's so nice. And I'm like,

please let me be able to do something with this. And I grew up in red. I forget what version of the

operating system was the last one that runs. But that version, like I couldn't even get on my home

Wi-Fi because Wi-Fi standards, you know, security standards are so much that I, you know, without

turning off all the WPA2 and stuff. So the only way I could get it to the internet was to connect it

to my phone as a hotspot. But even then, even then, you have to go into your personal hotspot settings

and there's a setting, there's a switch for compatibility with older devices, which is a

fancy way of saying turn off the latest and greatest security teachers. And only when I

turn that on would the old iPad mini even see the Wi-Fi. And then once I got on the Wi-Fi,

I'm like, well, let me, can I install like the Hulu app or something like that just to watch videos

on it? Nope. There's no modern apps that are going that. I'm like, well, maybe I could just use it to

surf the web, albeit slowly. I mean, sort of. But like even things like the Apple website would not

load properly on it. Because web standards have changed. We don't think about it because it changes

sort of, you know, over time. But over, what is this, 2012 and it's now 2025. So what, 13 years

later, 13 years later, the internet is such that most websites couldn't even run on it. So I'm like,

if I can't have apps on it, I can't surf the internet. I mean, I might be able to put some

home movies on it. But I so maybe I am going to have to recycle it. What can you do? Because I

can't do anything with it. So then I told my wife, this thing's so cute. Should we buy another iPad mini?

And of course, as I said that, I knew it was because I have zero need for an iPad mini. I mean,

what am I going to do? I have an iPhone, I've got an iPad, but they're cute. But they're cute.

And then I saw Amazon's got them $100 off this week so I could get the brand new iPad mini that

just came out last year for only 400 bucks. But like, I don't need it, but it would be cute.

So I don't know anyway. That's it. It's like, I think actually I have recycled mine. I think I've

given it because at the point, you know, like you said, I just didn't have a need. I looked it up,

it looks like that it was the highest supported was iOS 9.3.5. So it didn't even go to iOS 10.

I mean, that's just amazing that, you know, it like, but I know I still do know people that

have it because it's just that one handedness is the way I think of it, Jeff, right? It's like,

you can hold it in one hand from an e-reader perspective. Yeah, I miss I miss it too.

Ever so often I will, I will think about it. And I know, you know, we both listened to the other

podcast, MacBreak Weekly and Andy Inato is constantly talking about that, right? Because

he loves the iPad mini and frankly, even I think even Leo was talking about it recently. It was like,

why, why can't they, you know, support like kind of a new one? Or I mean, they have, and I know

there's it's still available. Now we have, you know, for a while we didn't, and we were curious

about what you give up on it. Right. We have a modern one, you know, so a relatively modern one.

Yeah, came out last year. Well, the original iPad mini can certainly not run iOS 18.5,

but you had a link today that that is our next operating system that is coming out for

the modern day iPhones and iPads. This little link from Ryan Christoffel at 9 to 5. Mac talked about

five new iPhone features that are coming probably next week, apparently, with 18.5.

Yeah. And the only reason that we think it's coming next week, Apple has not told us,

is that one of the features here is, you know, every year Apple has the pride celebrations for,

you know, LGBTQ plus, etc. And they have new watch bands for the Apple Watch. And they also have new

like screens for your iPhone, your iPad, everything else. And because the new watch bands

come out next week, and because the new Apple Watch screen would match the watch band, what

what he's saying is, you know, his guess, and I think it's a good guess, I think he's probably

right, is that my guess is next week, maybe Monday, maybe Tuesday, since that's when the

watch bands go on sale, you'll probably have the new wallpaper, which is going to be in iOS

18.5 and the updates for the Apple Watch or anything else. So that's that's the logic on why

it's coming out next week. In terms of what it has, I mean, we are so far in to the iOS 18

development cycle that anything that's really big and exciting, they're going to save for WWDC

next month. So, right, you know, these are very, very minor, like he's got some minor enhancements

to the mail app that you can now see, you know, all mail and you know, some other some screen time

things. But these are, you know, I was actually surprised to see that you'll be able to use the

satellite functions, which you and I just talked about what last week, yeah, that's coming to the

iPhone 13. I didn't realize that we go back. Now, it's a little bit different. The support you get

on the iPhone 13 is not as full featured as the ones you get on modern iPhones, just because it

doesn't have the hardware in it. But it does support the ability to do text messaging, which I

think behind the scenes, what's going on is the iPhone is operating the same way as normal,

but the carrier like T-Mobile, for example, they are getting texts from the satellite and then

sending it to the iPhone. So from a user perspective, you're using satellites. But I think I think

it's behind the scenes. But anyway, however it works, it's nice to see your support for that. So

are they going to be big features? No. But no, expect next week for your devices to tell you

that there's a new iOS. I'm sure it's going to have security updates in it too. So my guess is

probably Tuesday. It could be Monday next week, we'll say. Do you think that we'll get another

incremental bump upgrade before? I mean, so, you know, June, right, the second week of June is when

WWDC is going to be, they're going to talk about iOS 19. But we wouldn't expect to have 19 until

maybe September or something like that, right? Okay. So there might be a couple of small ones,

but it's probably not going to be a point update. It'll be a point point update. It'll be like 18.5,

0.1, 0.2, that kind of a thing. I'm guessing. There will certainly be security updates between

May and September, right? So I'm sure we'll see updates. But you may be right, Brett, they may be

point point updates because I seriously doubt they would put new features in. But then again,

you never know. Interesting. Last week, we talked about a, I would call it a fairly radical opinion,

court opinion, maybe not so much, but it sort of shook the tech industry a little bit. We're

talking about the Apple or Epic V Apple case. There's several things going on with this, but

the bottom line has been that the judge was not happy with the way that Apple was following one

of her orders in allowing third parties to basically allow customers to make purchases

outside of the app store. Now, I'm kind of paraphrasing a little bit there, but we talked about

that quite extensively last week. Well, now we started to see a week later now that some

companies have started implementing something like that, including the Kindle app.

It maybe just remind me quickly, Jeff. So before this ruling, when I had the Kindle app,

I would have to separately, if I remember correctly, go like on the, on a website,

do Amazon.com, purchase the book and say, I want to get the Kindle version there.

And then I would open the Kindle app and because I'm logged into the same account,

I would see that book there. But that was several steps that I would have to do outside of like

the actual Kindle app. But now you've linked to a story from Dan Moran at Six Colors that

we can see a buy book or get book button right inside the Kindle app right now.

Exactly. And there were sort of two versions. There's two reasons that this is important.

And just as a reminder, what the judge ruled, of course, is that Apple can no longer say

all purchases or in-app purchases and have all these scary screens before you go elsewhere.

Gotcha. And so it's not a lot more seamless for app developers to allow in-app purchases through

their own payment systems by passing Apple completely. That matters for two reasons. Some

apps or some purchases and books are a perfect example of it just because of the way that the

book economy works. You know, an author writes a book and they get some money. The publisher

sells it through a place like Amazon. The publisher gets something like two thirds of the

purchase price. If you go to Amazon to buy a book, and this has just been the way it's been for

decades, two thirds of the price goes to the publisher and then they pay the author and stuff.

And then one third of the price is kept by Amazon. But then if they were to allow in-app

purchases in the Kindle app, because Apple takes 15% of every purchase for smaller customers and

30% for bigger customers like Amazon, if 30% went to Apple and 70% went to the publisher,

there would be nothing for Amazon. So it just financially, the two business models are incompatible.

The publishing book model and Apple's I'm going to take 15% or 30% model. And so as a result,

Amazon said, we're not going to sell the books in the app. And you have to do what you described.

You have to go separately to the website, purchase it, associate it with your account,

and then you can access it. So now that Amazon doesn't have to pay anything to Apple,

they can now implement a sheet within the app that allows you to find and purchase books.

Apple doesn't get any portion of the sale because of the judge's ruling. And then they can,

it's just like you're buying it on the Amazon website. Amazon keeps 30% for itself. 70% goes to

the publisher and Apple gets nothing. So one implication of the court ruling,

which is on appeal, so it could theoretically change. But for now, one implication is that apps

like Kindle can offer books for the first time. And so that's pretty nice because it makes sense

if you're sitting there using your Kindle app and you decide, hey, I might want to buy another book

from this author, author, how convenient to do it within the app. And things like purchasing

comic books and comic book apps or another one or any other Spotify purchasing music,

any of those sort of buying services. I mean, I could see a Netflix app in the future. I don't

think they've updated it yet where you want to subscribe to Netflix and pay Netflix directly.

But that gets into a second category. The second category is people that like the Netflix example,

people that certainly could allow you to pay inside the app. They just don't want to give

Apple 15% or 30% if they're a big publisher. And they would just rather keep them under themselves.

And sort of an example of that, and I don't mean that in a selfish way. I mean, this is just business,

the Patreon app, which is another one I'll link to today because Sarah Perot is a tech crunch,

I think to that. Patreon, I don't remember. I think, yes, they were. Patreon was allowing you

to support a creator through the app in the past. But Patreon knew that like if I wanted to support

an independent podcast that has a charge, I might pay 10 bucks a year, but a third of that or 15%

of that's going to go to Apple. And so that's just less money. In this case, I don't think

because Patreon, I don't know if they're a true nonprofit, but they're sort of like they don't

make a lot of profit. Most of them are directly to creators. So the creator would see less money.

But now Patreon has changed it. In fact, the tech crunch article is interesting because it has the

old system, which is the traditional in-app purchase and then the new system, which I put on my phone

too. And they have a screen, scroll down a little bit. Yeah, a little bit right there, right at the

bottom of this screen, or maybe it's the next picture that she has there. There's this tiny little

thing, a scroll down a little bit more. There's a tiny little thing that says, you see where it says

kind of like a big button that says join. You click that button and you're paying through Patreon.

And then tiny, tiny, tiny little print, you know, as lawyers, we know the small print. It's tiny print

in a gray font. It's a gray typeface that says, continue with in-app payment. I mean, it's so

non-obvious. But if you see it and if you click it, then you go to the old system of in-app payment

and paying Apple. Now, I will tell you that, you know, sure, I want third-party developers to make

money. I want content creators to create money. I mean, I'm in support of that. On the same time,

I as a user, and this is Apple's argument, you know, if Apple has a defense to their old system

besides We Want All The Money, which perhaps is their real defense, but it is that it's easier

for the users because I love it, Brett, that if I subscribe to an app, if I subscribe to an app

under the traditional system, and then eight months later or two years later, I forget about it,

I love subscriptions through Apple because they usually give you an email that says, hey, by the

way, this is going to renew. And if it's so easy to just go into the app store, click on your name

in the top right and say cancel the subscription. And we'll say, okay, well, when it finishes next

month or next week or six months from now, it will not be renewed. And it's, you don't have to like

explain yourself. There's no like, are you really sure you want to cancel? You know, my joke in my

post today was it's like the cable company, you got to talk to 16 different people before they

actually cancel your account. It's just simple. And so I am concerned that if people, if we get

into this new world where all the in-app purchases, especially for subscriptions, are outside of the

app, is it going to become harder to manage your subscriptions, harder to cancel your subscription?

I mean, we don't know. I don't know. Right. But I suspect it's not going to be nearly as easy as it

is right now. So I will tell you, if this is the new world, the last thing I'll say right is if this

is our new world, I'm going to think about it whenever I purchase something in-app, especially

a subscription. Yeah. Because if I feel like I want to support the, you know, there are some cases

where I probably will do it, maybe if it's a company that I trust a little bit more. But then

again, if there's something else, I could probably see myself looking for that tiny little print

to continue with the regular in-app payment just to get it through Apple. And I guess I could argue

this is maybe the best of our world is that I have the choice. But I mean, I know about this.

Most people are not going to see that small type of thing. Right. They're going to hit the join button.

Right. Of course, you're not going to even see it. So here's my question. I'm kind of thinking

through this. I liked it when I knew that I had money in my App Store account, right? Or something

along those lines, or I had a payment set up with my App Store account. And so anytime that I

wanted to make a purchase, it would just go through the App Store purchase, right? And I can go back

and I can see all my purchases, not just the subscriptions to your point, which is great,

but I could even just see like the different apps that I purchased. And if I needed to have an

in-app purchase along those lines, all of that information was there. But now with this, if I

wanted to buy a book through the Amazon Kindle, I got to have an Amazon account, right? Or I have

to have a Patreon account. I have to have an Epic account. I have to have a Spotify account. And it's

like, I just really appreciated the fact that it was all in one place. And I think that is that right?

Getting to sort of Apple's argument there. Like people would just want to have something that is

so simple as opposed to, I mean, I can see where this would go. And again, I'm all about supporting

everyone. And I would like to maybe in some cases, pay through Patreon so that I know that there's

going to be more going to the actual creator or the inventor there. But then I got to keep

track of multiple more accounts now than I felt like that I had to in the past. Is that, is that

right? Going along the right way? Yes. And in fact, I heard on the Mac, on the Mac Break Weekly

podcast, Alex Lindsey was describing, because he's actually somebody who has developed some apps and

sold them. He said that he thinks for some app developers, anything that imposes friction between

you and your app is going to cause people not to do it. And he's like, if I go to do an in-app

purchase, and suddenly it's saying, now I need you to type in your credit card, people are just

saying, oh, I don't want, I'm not going to go through all that. And they'll just stop. Right.

Whereas, as we all know with the current system of in-app purchases, you press a button, you do

your face ID, your touch ID, and you're done. It is so, there's so little friction that people,

and so I do think that app developers will need to consider the calculus of, do I want to allow,

you know, am I better off just having in-app purchases? Or do I want to use this feature?

And again, for smaller app developers, where Apple charges, quote unquote, only 15%,

if you go to your own system, you're going to have to pay for the credit card fees and everything

else, which is going to be 3% or 4%, you're going to have to have the overhead of managing payments,

keeping track of subscriptions, everything else. And, you know, most people will do that by using

a third party service, like, you know, Stripe or somebody like that to do it. Exactly. There's

going to be a cost. And so I do think it'll probably be cheaper to go outside of the store,

you know, from just the bottom line dollar, but will the extra friction cause people to not want

to do it? I don't know. Now, one way to avoid that friction, Brett, is I noticed on the Patreon

example that was in that TechCrunch article, one of the buttons for join was on the payment screen,

besides entering in a credit card. The very first one was Apple Pay. And of course, that's pretty

simple. Exactly. Yes. Thank you. And we all know we've all purchased things on Apple Pay and our

iPhone before. It's sort of like the in-app purchase system, like Apple already has your credit

card and Apple only sends some of the information to the developer. There's a certain degree of

privacy. They don't give your credit card number to the third party, which gives you a little more

security. It's a random number. Right. Right. It's a random number. So if an in-app developer

uses Apple Pay, maybe that's like a happy medium, you know, it's not quite as easy as in-app purchases.

I would agree with that. Yes. Yes. They keep all this. So I don't know. This is, people are going to

have to figure this out over time. Interesting. Interesting. It is interesting. Let's head back

to the iPad just briefly. Great little story here from Fernanda Silva at 9 to 5 Mac. How you can turn

your iPad into a gaming display? I mean, it doesn't have to be necessarily a gaming. I mean,

just the fact that they're like, he used a free app that is called Orion. And there is an HDMI to

USB-C capture card, which is really just kind of a dongle here. But I don't know that I've actually

done this directly. I have played Xbox on my iPad, but I think it was through an app. It was like the

Xbox app. Right. So what he's talking about here is you can literally plug in your Xbox to the iPad,

and the iPad basically becomes the TV on this, which I don't know how much people would need this,

but it is just kind of neat to know that you can do it. Orion is a really interesting app. And I

can't remember if we've discussed it before. I think maybe we have. I don't remember that we have.

Yeah. It just turns your, it only came out like, I want to say last year, but it allows you to

turn and who does it come from? I forget. Anyway, the app itself. It's Lux Optics is where it's coming

from. Yeah. It allows you to turn your iPad, which of course has a beautiful screen, especially in

my iPad Pro. A beautiful screen, right? It allows you to turn your iPad into just a dumb external

monitor. And so you could hook it up to things like a PlayStation or whatever else or a Nintendo

Switch or whatever. A very expensive monitor. It's not, you know, even if you, an expensive monitor

on the one hand, if you're going to buy it dedicated, but the flip side, it's also the cheapest

monitor, right? Because I have the iPad already. So if I have some device that I put the iPad on,

Great point. and I already got my iPad and I'm already taking it with me when I travel,

it's a zero expense to use it as a monitor. So, but what you do need is some sort of a dongle,

because for many devices, they're going to be exporting, they're going to be connecting to

a monitor through HDMI. So you need a way, you know, many people have a little adapter to have

HDMI out. You and I use this all the time with Tino whenever we give presentations, right? But

it's actually, it's the, it's that, that adapter won't work. You need an adapter that works in

reverse that instead of coming in, you need something that will take HDMI and bring it

into USB-C into the iPad. And there are really expensive ones that have super high frame rate

that you can spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on, or you can just get a cheap little

$20 one like he links here, this company I've never heard of, Guermak Video Capital Carbure

or K-Box, which he says works. He says if it's not the best latency, but it's good enough. And so,

so if you get something from $20 to $300, depending upon how fancy you want to get,

and then hook it up with the iPad you already own, now you have an external monitor. You know,

he says you could use it with a gaming thing. He says you could even use it with a Mac Mini.

Now, if you truly wanted to use an iPad with a Mac, what I think is a better is, is what,

what is it called, breadth of mode, where you do it with the screen sharing, you do this sometimes

where you, uh, all the time. Well, the continuity is the general thing about it. But, but I'm basically,

I, you know, to your point quickly, I already have the iPad. I travel with the iPad and I usually

use it as a second monitor. I'm doing this right now and you can just go to the display and I'm

basically is, I'm extending my desktop, but it's great because, well, yeah, they, they call it a,

I guess there's one way that you can just do it to her. If you set them next to each other,

you can use your keyboard back and forth, but I use it as an external monitor. Yeah. So I have

an extended display basically to where if I, I use it as a monitor to your point earlier. But

yeah, I'm doing the same thing on that. And now what's great here is I do it wirelessly. That's

what's really nice because that's kind of built into, you know, the iOS and the Mac OS.

But for some reason you had something that wasn't using that technology for whatever reason,

if you had a PC, for example, you know, you're using your PC, I'm traveling, I've got my Dell

PC with me. I want to have a second monitor for 20 bucks. I could make my iPad. Now that I'm saying

this out loud, Brett, I might need to do this. This is an interesting. Oh, you're, though,

you're going shopping today. You know, if this is something that appeals to you,

take a look at this article because it could be pretty interesting. Yeah. I really, there's like

a little video that accompanies it. Fernando is always doing a really good job with some of the

videos on there. So that's really neat. Let's talk about Mac safe and more even specifically,

Mac safe wallets. We haven't talked about this in a long time, but I do remember when Apple originally

came out with the Apple iPhone fine woven wallet with MagSafe. Basically this, you've probably

seen this, right? That people have their iPhone and it's a little wallet or a MagSafe wallet

basically. It's almost, I call it a wallet to me. It's just, it holds like two or three credit

cards and it just slaps on and magnetizes, of course, to the back of your iPhone. I also find

it interesting that one of the colors that they sell is called Blackberry. But I remember, I remember

when the fine woven came out because they, you know, originally these were, these were leather,

if I'm not mistaken. They were, they were. Apple caught a lot of flak about that. It's like,

why are you using leather? Like, come on, let's be more green. And they came out with the fine

woven. And I remember we made fun of that name and we still do because it is a little bit of a

funny name. People talk, I remember people talking about how it doesn't necessarily feel the same

and it's just a little weird. I've never had one of these. I don't ever like to have my wallet on

the back of my phone. I just, for whatever reason, Jeff, I've just thought that that's just not even

necessary. But you had another link to a story today where this, this could be kind of an interesting

one. This is over at 9 to 5 Mac again, ESR's Geo Wallet, which has Fine My built into it as well.

Now this, I could possibly think could maybe be an option here. I kind of, I kind of like the way

this looks and works. Like you, Brett, I've never owned one of these. And as you said, they've been

around for a long time through the Apple version, the original leather one. But I know that they're

popular because this is what I see a lot of them. I see in the wild. Yeah. I will totally see people

that walk it around. They just have one thing. They just have their iPod, their iPod goodness,

their iPhone. And they have this little thing on it that has, you know, your driver's license and

maybe the one credit card you use. That's all you need. And so, and I understand the idea of it,

you know, just keep it all in your pocket one place. Oh yeah. I think it's a legitimate purchase.

I've never had a need for it. But I totally understand why people would like this idea.

And I know the Apple run, I mean, you say it holds two or three cards. As I understand it,

three cards is a little bit of a stretch. Like it's a little tight. Oh, three cards. It's really

two cards. But you can almost get three in it. So, and the Apple one, the newest version of it,

not the original one, but the newest version says that it supports Fine My. And that is true.

But all it really is, it's smart enough to know that the wallet is attached to your phone so that

if it comes to this attached, and by the way, it's a pretty strong magnet. So, it's really,

it's not going to come off the curve easily. It stays on. Yeah. But it could come off, of course.

And if it comes off, the iPhone notices that the wallet comes off. And so, if you're sitting there

at the Starbucks, it comes off, it will tell you, oh my goodness, where is my wallet? It will say,

well, the last time it was attached to your iPhone was at the Starbucks. Now, is it still at that

Starbucks? Oh, okay. Somebody pick it up. I don't know. But at least it's a place to go look.

So, with this particular product from ESR does, it has a battery in it, which means you need to

charge your wallet from time to time, which is a funny thing to say. I need to charge my wallet.

That is. But if you do charge it from time to time, it has a battery in it. And so,

it's actually has True Fine My support, like an AirTag would. And so, therefore, if it comes off

at Starbucks and somebody picks it up and brings it across the street to their hotel, you'll know,

where's my wallet? Oh, well, it's now over in the hotel, or wherever it is. So, you could find it

a little bit more. So, you know, it might have some extra advantages. Plus, I think it holds

one additional card too. Plus, it's only 30 bucks as opposed to the Apple one, which are like 60 or

something like that. Yeah, 60, 59. Yeah. Interesting. So, you know, if this is something that you're in

the market for, you know, you might want to consider this. And I'm sure there's other brands too. But

this was the newest, you know, this was the review that Bradley Chambers wrote this week. So, it's

an interesting, it's an interesting product idea. I felt like in all of the top with talk about Apple

Intelligence, it was inevitable that many people were going to start comparing what Siri can do

to other platforms like ChatGPT and Proplexity and Claude. And sure enough, that is what we are

starting to see. This is again, Fernando Silva coming up with a comparison comparing, I'm going to

call it silly Sally, to Proplexity and to ChatGPT. And he's got a little video that goes along with

it. And actually, I heard, you know, that same MacBright Weekly, there was, I forget his name,

I know him as the bearded tutor, beard.fm. But he was doing a lot of the same thing. He was doing

some of the, he did his own video, Proplexity AI just made the Siri Apple promised last year.

In other words, this is getting better. And I think where this is going, you can go a little

bit deeper in this, is that while Siri theoretically is going to have direct access to the apps on

your phone and can understand some of that interaction, you know, your email, well, third party

systems may not like Proplexity and ChatGPT, you may or may not want to give access to your email

and to your documents, that kind of a thing. But it's getting closer. I feel like that gap, you

know, what these, what these two videos are talking about is that gap is getting a little bit

narrower so that you can compose something, you can talk to something like Proplexity or ChatGPT.

And it can compose an email. And it's just like, we've got one more step that somehow Apple is

going to have to resolve this. And of course, all eyes are going to be on them in June at

WWDC to see what can happen. But it's just really interesting to see some of these comparison

videos come out too. We talked last week about this Proplexity AI assistant because it can be so

much. I mean, not everything, but you know, unlike the ChatGPT app, which has been out for a while,

which works really well for asking questions, Proplexity can interact with your system in some

ways, like creating an email or finding, launching the music app for music and stuff like that.

And so it sort of does some additional things that ChatGPT doesn't do. And then of course,

you know, S-I-R-I, in theory, has access to your entire system. It's just that Apple hasn't done

a great job of doing all that yet. Maybe next month in WWDC will start to see more of this.

What was the most interesting to me in this article is given all of the buzz that Proplexity

had last week. I expected him to compare, you know, so you know who,

Herplexity and ChatGPT, and he doesn't have Gemini in here, but that's another one he could have

compared. I expected the author to say, you know what, Proplexity is totally in the lead.

My big surprise of this article, Brett, was to like the last paragraph where he says,

you know, the final verdict, he says, you know, each of them is better for different reasons.

You know, S-I-R-I can do some things that the other ones just can't do. So it's the best of those.

On the other hand, Proplexity can do some things much, much better. And then when it comes to,

you know, question, you know, fact-based questions, ChatGPT is really the best of all of them right

now. And so that's just sort of interesting that I guess they still all have their strengths.

And of course, this field is changing so rapidly, Brett. I mean, every week, every month, you know,

one of them is going to be better. WWDC, you have to assume that Apple is going to show some really

new features, some cool new features of AI, which of course won't be available until this fall.

But so that's what struck to me is the most is that right now, you know, if you want to use one

of these AI assistants, think about what you're using it for. And depending upon that, you know,

you might want to make one of them your primary one or one of them that you use for most things,

but for other tasks, you use this other one. Interesting. Well, Apple is already trying to

convince people still that Apple intelligence is good. You at the bottom of your post today,

you had, it's like a six minute video, right, from Apple that kind of cutely shows some of the

tasks that you can accomplish with Apple intelligence. I think I feel like we've talked

about all of these that I was watching the video. It's like we've talked about them all before.

And most people kind of already know that some of that's in there. But I like the way that they

kind of twisted it around a little bit. It is it was a helpful video, I think for anybody just to

go through and remind yourself that these are the things that Apple intelligence could do.

I feel like it's better than, you know, so much of the bad press that they've gotten so far.

Same exact for the same, right? You know, Apple intelligence gets a lot of flak because

it doesn't do as much as some of the other ones as we just discussed. And even the things that it

does do part of me feels like, you know, ho hum. And so although when I watched this video, there

wasn't a single feature that they showed that I did not already know about and I've tried most.

Right. But Apple did such a nice job in this video. It's a really well produced video of

showing it. Yeah. Like real use cases and how they're actually useful that I have to admit when

I finished watching this, I was like, you know what, these things are a little bit more useful

than I was thinking and I may start to use them more. So I would encourage you if you, you know,

not all phones can use Apple intelligence, but if you have one of the newer phones or iPads that

can use Apple intelligence, I think it's worth spending, you know, the five or six minutes to

watch this video because once you see the features really, you know, explained incredibly well as

to here's what this person's trying to do. Here's how they're doing it. It'll really make you think,

huh, okay, well, I guess there is some real value there. And that's not that we couldn't

do before AI. So thank goodness, I'm glad that Apple is doing some stuff. I expect this all,

you know, years from now, we're going to look back on this and laugh that this was such the

baby steps, early versions of AI. But that's what we have today. So

Coming up, we have a tearjerker segment of talking about the Vision Pro. We'll have a

where you at segment and we'll also talk about some of the upcoming shows and some of these I

didn't even know about that were coming up with Apple TV Plus. I'm happy that you linked to it.

But first, let's just take a moment quickly to talk about our sponsor, Lit Software.

This is a company that's been around pretty much as long as the iPad has been around.

Jeff and I met the developers of Lit Software in 2010, a few months after we talked about the iPad

coming out a couple of the conferences that we were attending at the time. And it was one of the

first companies to put out a legal specific type of an app for the iPad. And at the time, that first

app was TrialPad for trial presentation. They have since now added to this suite of apps that

they have. TranscriptPad, we talked about that for transcripts. DocReviewPad for reviewing documents

to do production. And I'm so happy that we finally have the fourth app. But there's actually a couple

more apps in there. But this is the fourth main app in the suite, TimelinePad, because Jeff,

both you and I remember, we've talked with Ian, the developer for several years, like they've

talked about coming out with this TimelinePad. And I know it's been hard because there's so much

that changes with the different iOS's. And we both know that if an app's going to come from

Lit Software, it's going to be very good. It's going to be almost to the point where it's going

to be so polished that it's like, okay, well, I'm glad that you waited because it was worth

waiting for that. And TimelinePad is that app. This is a timeline, visual timeline app, which is so

great because there was a dearth of apps that it was not even possible. There was one called

BDoX, I think, that did a 3D timeline. And we liked it, but it was kind of limited to what it can do.

But this app is amazing. And in fact, I remember, in fact, I'm going to bring up your review here.

You did this not too long ago. The TimelinePad app on iPhone JD and just even made me more excited

about the app. TimelinePad from litsoftware.com. Yeah. First of all, thank you to Lit Software

for sponsoring us for four weeks in a row because it lets us talk about the four main apps.

Exactly. Everybody knows that all the apps are wonderful. My favorite one's TranscriptPad. However,

I feel like in some ways we've saved the best for last because I'm so excited about this app

because it's just new and fresh. Creating timelines is something that lawyers do all the time. We do

it in trial. And this is what, if you are a lawyer, you know, and if you're not a lawyer,

you've seen it before on CSI, whatever. Somebody has the timeline, this and then this, because

it's such a great way to explain the chain of events to a jury, to a fact finder. But even if

you're not in trial, even if you're in a mediation, even if you're just in your war room, figuring

out with you and your team, what are the events of things, timelines are so important. And we've

all been there before where you have a big whiteboard and you're writing things with a marker

and then you got to erase and move things around. It makes so much sense to do this electronically.

But, and there have been, like you said, there have been tools to do this, but the LIT software,

which is like, they are the kings of like using your iPad as a litigator. And they know how to do

this stuff. They know about issue codes, all this stuff. To take all of that special sauce

and put it into a timeline app. I mean, this is it. This is so, so cool. And so I did the full

review. If you want all the details, read my review of how you can use it. But, you know,

you put all of the events into the app. And let me just say, because I've been using the app a

little bit more than since I wrote this review in early April, late March. I published it in

early April. I wrote it in late March. You can add events through the app. And that totally works fine.

You know, it works as you would expect it. You put the title of the event, the date, you know,

if you have a time, most of the time, I don't have times, it's just dates. You can add colors and

stuff like that. But they also have this really helpful feature that within the app, you can

press a button and you can create a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet that's already got columns in it

that's completely blank. And that's totally nice because you can put this on your computer.

And then you may already have the key dates in your case, like in a spreadsheet or in some sort of

a common delimited field or whatever it is, or even just creating it from scratch. It's, I find it

super fast to just use the keyboard on your computer and Microsoft Excel to just enter, you know,

date event tag, you know, just stick all the stuff in there. And then once it's in the spreadsheet,

you just import that into TimelinePad. And now you've done all the typing. And so now the dates

are in there. And you can just add things like pictures and colors, whatever you want to do.

And now you've got all of your key events in the case with all of the dates. And then once they're

there, you can see them as you're seeing in the picture right here. If you click one of those,

Brad, I think they'll become a little bit bigger. So it's a little easier to see. There you go.

You can see all of the events, you know, things that happen the same day, things that happen in

different days. You can control at the very bottom of the screen, it shows like what portion of the

timeline you're looking at. And you can expand that you can make it bigger or smaller if you want

to focus in on one month, if you want to go out and see the big picture for one year or multiple

years. And that's just like the basic features they have already updated the app to add all

of these other features like this layers feature. And so like you might have like of all the events

in the case, I just want to talk about the events that have to do with, you know, this book, or

this person, or this patent, or whatever it is. And so you can put them in a layer and then you

activate that layer when you're before the jury or whatever or just in your war room. And then

you can just see the events associated with that, you know, whatever you put in the layer.

And so you can just focus on them. So it's just such a powerful way to get perspective for yourself,

for telling a story to others. Again, I feel like I'm selling the idea of a timeline. We all know

what timelines are. It's just that this, you know, such a powerful idea of a timeline with the ease

of lit software's ability to just make things work so well on the iPad. And then if you're like in

a courtroom, you know, just like you could use, I mean, of course, we all know that trial pad and

stuff like that works so incredibly well with a courtroom. You just did a presentation on that

at Tech Show last month, right? I did. Yeah. You know, timeline pad works the same way. It is made

for presentations. And so you can have it so that the jury is just seeing the output. But then much

like trial pad on your device, you can see like the column on the side that, you know, you can

key up what's going to happen next, what layer I'm going to trigger. So they don't see all the

behind the scenes stuff. They just see the output. And it just worked really well. So, you know, to

take the, like I said, a special sauce that lit software has for all of their apps and to provide

it to another app that is so useful for lawyers for timeline pad. I just think that this is fantastic.

I mean, it was already, lit software was always such a great value because of trial pad and

transcript pad and doc review pad. But to make this part of the suite as well, it's like, you know,

I can see people getting it just for this. And then you also get all of the other apps too. So,

I mean, I'm just with it. So, you know, again, I would be, I would be raving about this app,

even if they weren't a sponsor this week. And I appreciate them sponsoring it because it gives

us an excuse to talk about it. But, you know, thank you to lit software. Great app. If you haven't

checked it out yet, it's worth doing, you know, lit softwares. If you don't own their suite,

you can get the free seven days for free or something so you can try it out and get the

servers on it. But really great stuff. So fantastic app. Did you mention this just real quick? Because

one of the things that I like about it is that you can attach documents or images to those events.

And so, you know, it's just one thing to like see the event. But in many cases, we have to

refer reference back to the document that it came from or we want to show a picture of, you know,

the accident that happened, that kind of a thing. And just the fact that they have that capability

built in, because you could even do that in trial pad, you could highlight some of the things and

then maybe do an export of that and then pull that into timeline. So you can show that just really

nifty that you can do that. And to me, it's just important to make sure that you have that ability

to cite to a specific like this is where this fact came from, you know, or this event. And that's

important as well. Yes, we are very thankful to the software. You can go and find more information

as Jeff said at litsoftware.com, l it software.com. You'll find right on the front page there,

they have links to all of the apps we have been talking about. Also, I just want to do a quick

shout out to the Lit Sweet Academy. This is completely free. Once you get access to these

apps. And as Jeff mentioned, you can sign up for this, you get a seven day free trial. So you're

not paying for anything right off the bat. You have seven days that you can go and look around

the apps and you can read Jeff's review so you can see exactly how to use timeline pad. You can go

into the Lit Sweet Academy, which is completely free. It's actually right inside the apps that

you can go around and it just kind of shows you around. So you get to kick the tires a little

bit just to make sure that it's something that you can use and you will. And then I think this is

still in that purchase, right, that you can subscribe to the Lit Sweet right there within the

app. And I know that's how I've done it. So you can kind of follow that subscription right there

in there. Thanks again, Lit Software, Lit Software dot com. Let's do an in the vision segment quickly.

You wrote about this today and darn it, Jeff. Every time I'm like, okay, you know, I'm going to be

fine. It's like, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to shed a tear. This is a four and a half

minute little video. And yeah, by the end, I was, you know, I was sniffling a little bit,

but this is great. This is a video that boy, this they had to be thinking about this a long

time ago, right? Because it is basically a video of the first year of a young son for this family.

And Apple has turned it into a commercial basically, but it's so much more than that. This is shot on

an iPhone in spatial video. And then the father was able to give his wife this little present of

watching this entire video that he had made over this past year with a Vision Pro. And you got to

watch it. I mean, I guess we can spoil it because there's this is this is amazing to watch. It's

not like it's going to spoil anything, but it's just so great the way they put it all together.

When I look at my own photo album on my iPad or Mac or whatever, the number of pictures and videos

that I took exploded dramatically once my kids came into my life. And I'm sure that's true for

every parent because suddenly they're so cute. You have things to take pictures of and they're

walking their first time, you know, all these things that they're doing or just cooing. So all

these fun things. And so you're going to want to take all these videos and stuff. And what this

family did is they they the father took them with his iPhone to be in spatial videos that they were

3D. When I saw this video, my first thought was, oh, this is just tugging on the heart strings.

It's so wonderful. And then I'm like, wait a minute, are these actors? Because like,

how are they talking to the camera and stuff like that? And it wasn't until I found this article

in Adweek by Brittany Kiefer, where she talked with I think it was the Chad Day, whatever the

Tee-Tee, whatever their initials are, that agency that works with Apple and all their videos.

Oh, yeah. Well, TBWA, yeah. Yeah. Thank you. TBWA Media Arts. They decided last spring,

when the Apple Vision Pro first came out, somebody with their marketing firm said,

okay, we're going to find a family that has a brand new baby. I have no idea what their connection

was. And so we're going to have them to start to he's going to take videos of the kids, just

like you're going to do anyway, but take a whole bunch of them in spatial video and

spatial video, right over the past year. And so he was actually interviewing them at some

parts like they're talking about their baby, but they're also talking to the camera about what

it's like to be a new mom and a new dad. And at the end had after the past year had 55 hours of

video. And then this director helped the dad to put it together into like a very high-end

home movie, much nicer than my home movies. I was like a professional director helped me with my

movies and put it together. And it's just great. And again, this is, yes, it's marketing, yes,

it's blah, blah, blah. But this is a true thing. I mean, and as I really put it out on my post,

I'm so thrilled that before we had our kids, my wife and I splurged to get a HD video camera,

which was way expensive at the time. It was way more than a thousand dollars. I forget how much

it was. And it used tapes and stuff because this was before, you know, solid state stuff.

But I'm so happy we had it because it means that those early videos, the quality is pretty good.

It's 69, it's HD, it's not 4K or anything like that. But it's really good quality. And thank goodness,

it wasn't VHSC because I look at like, we had some snow in New Orleans not too long,

like in the early 2000s. And I'm looking at some video that I took of the, when I say snow in

New Orleans, it was snow in Christmas Day. It was a white Christmas. Now, we're talking about

Oh, lovely. a quarter inch of snow. You would laugh at this, Brett. You would not even call this

snow. But at the time, for me, I like, I see snowflakes in Christmas Day. That was amazing.

And, and I have this VHSC recording of it. But the quality of it, you know, which VHSC is like,

you know, it's not very good quality at standard definition. You look at it on a big screen and,

you know, it's nice to see the memories. I'm thrilled we have the video, but the quality is

what it is. But then I look at the stuff I took just, you know, months later, years later with the

HD camera, and the quality is so good. So I'm so thrilled that I have that early. It was such a

good expense for me to do those HD videos of my kids when they were young, because now I can look

back on them and have memories of, you know, what they were doing. Right. The modern, and even at the

time, Brett, I would sometimes joke with people, you know, oh, I know someday we're going to be

looking at all of our videos with holograms or something like that. I'm thinking of like Star Wars

things. But sure enough, nowadays we do have 3D video. And so, you know, I love this video. And

I just want to urge, I put this in my post today, if you have whatever age your kids are, even if

you don't have an Apple Vision Pro, like you, Brett, you've used one, but you don't own one.

I still say if you've got a modern iPhone that can take spatial videos, just turn it on and take

some spatial videos. Right. You don't want to take it on if you're like doing like big things where

things are far away, because that doesn't pick up 3D very often, very well. But if you're close to

an object, like obviously a baby that's within a foot of your camera, anything that's sort of close

or that has perspective, turn on that spatial video feature and take some spatial videos.

And then a year from now, five years from now, 10 years from now, at some point, we're going to all

have 3D devices, future versions of the Apple Vision Pro or some special glasses. There was a

rumor this week that Apple's now working on something to compete with the Meta Ray Band and

they've got some things in development. I'm sure they do. You know, at some point, those videos

will be important to you and do it. I did the same thing, Brett, when my iPhone could first record

4K videos. I recorded 4K video even before I had a 4K TV. Just because I knew at some point in the

future, I'm going to be happy that I'm taking these videos in 4K. And then, of course, I did get a

4K TV and I was happy to look at those videos in high quality. So use this Apple video as an

inspiration to you. Take some spatial videos. You'll be happy to do it. Okay. I'm listening to you

and I'm looking for the setting. So which phone do you have to have to do spatial video? Do you

have to have the 16? Do you remember which one? I thought you could do it with a 15 pro. Which

phone do you use right now? I'm 15 pro, but I'm trying to find a camera app. If you like, there's

a place at the bottom where you can scroll. It says cinematic video. Yes, portrait. One of the

choices should be spatial. Do you see that as a choice? And if not, I do not have that. Oh, no,

I do. I do. There it is. I went to go the other way. So you have to rotate the landscape and you

have to go like this. Okay. Okay. Just so you know, Brett, if you take a spatial video,

so take one today while you're doing it. Okay. Take a spatial video in Chicago.

You can look at that spatial video on your iPhone, on your Mac and everything. You'll just see it in

2D. Apple goes to or... It'll just be 2D. Okay. It's just like if you take a video with HDR and

you're looking at it on something that doesn't support HDR or 4K, you can still watch the video.

It's just, it's going to be, it's going to take up a lot more space because it's got,

you know, twice as much data because it's, you know, left eye and right eye. Right. So just take

some spatial videos and then you'll appreciate them. You know, another example of that is I've

talked in the past about how with the Apple Vision Pro, panorama pictures are so amazing. Right.

Because like you're... Yes, they are. And you're like, "You're right." And I'm so happy now that I took

panorama photos, you know, 20 years ago because they mean so much more to me today. And it's the

same as true as spatial video. So no, I realize you have to have one of the newer iPhones to take

spatial video. But if you do, I encourage you to take some. I like that there's a little toggle

there. You can do a spatial picture or you can do spatial video. Okay. Right. You know, I've just

never gone there because I'm like, "Why would I do that? I don't have it." But I'm inspired. Watching

this video is good. And I'm not the only one that sheds a tear. I'm such a nerd, Jeff. I'm watching

this video and the mother is wearing the Vision Pro and you can tell she's also crying. And I'm

like, "Don't get the Vision Pro wet. What are you doing? Take it off. Give her a Kleenex." Anyway,

it was good. But the video is totally worth it. Absolutely worth it. Thank you for sharing that

today. Where are you at segment? Here's a quick one. I like this. This reader says, "His Apple Watch

saved his life. Make sure yours is set up too." And what are we referencing here? I believe this man

collapsed in a nearly empty parking lot on the way to his car. And so, let's see, what was it that

he had turned on here? Just the idea that he had the fault detection. Is that right? That's all it was.

He just had fault detection turned on, which I think is turned on by default. And he had some sort

of ridiculous blood clot in his lungs or something. And so, he's just walking to his car after work

one day, and he collapses and blacks out. And thank goodness his phone called 911. It called his,

I think it also called his wife because you know, you can set up to call an emergency contact.

And he is, you know, the paramedics were there very quickly. And they said,

"If we had not been there so quickly, you would have died." And he's, I think, good.

So, again, he said his phone, but his watch, right? It was his watch. Yeah, his watch is

vibrating and flashing SOS. It detected the hard fall and was automatically calling 911. Interesting.

So, again, we hear these stories all the time. We were reported on a similar one last week.

But the more you hear about them, the more dramatic they are. So, I never get tired of them. This is

so great. All right. That's our where you at segment. Like, just make sure, you know, if nothing

else, in fact, I'm going to do this right after. I'm going to just make sure it's turned on.

Because I'm pretty sure it is. I think, like you said, it's on by default. But, you know,

hey, take this as a quick reminder. Just make sure that all of that is set up. And you know what?

I'll even add on to that. Make sure you're like emergency contact or they call it the medical

contact, right? Good. Good. Make sure you have that filled out as well. Yeah, I've got that for

my wife. And so, you know, if anybody were to come upon me because I'm unconscious somewhere,

they, most medical professionals know that they can get access to that medical ID or, you know,

not just the contact, but also the ID, like your blood type, all that kind of stuff. So,

I feel like we could just do that PSA every week. And that would be good.

In the show. Okay. This is, man, I was just overwhelmed with how many links that you had

today, Jeff. This is crazy. But you started off by saying a couple of shows from Apple TV Plus have

now been approved for a fifth season. Is that right? Which is a little bit unheard of. I mean,

first of all, because I don't know if Apple TV Plus has even been around that long. I think they

have. But just the fact that they are now getting to the point where they're approving things for

a fifth season and the fact that, of course, that these shows are so good that they're getting approved

for a fifth season. Yeah. And, you know, there's so many things listed here, you know, today,

just quickly. So the first comedy to have a fifth season on Apple TV Plus is trying. Have you

watched trying, Brett? I have not. But I feel like that's one of the things I know when I saw you

talk about it today and I'm like, OK, I've got another one on the list that I got to sit down

with the wife this weekend. Your wife should watch it. It's really the couple of these actors are

fantastic. They're just so, you know, they're cute and they're great. And, you know, it's talks

about their story of adoption. And, you know, since I'm adopted parents, too, a lot of it,

you know, particularly touched me. But it's a story. Anyone appreciate it. And then, of course,

OK, OK, you know, spoiler alert, they do eventually adopt some kids. And then future seasons is

stories of parenthood with young kids, which many of us have been through. And it's just so

yeah, great, great show. It's funny. It's great. I'm so excited they're coming back for a fifth

season. So that's their first comedy with the fifth season for dramas with the fifth season. We

already knew that for all mankind has one and slow horses. Yeah, they record two seasons at a time.

They are currently reporting seasons five and season six. I think that one of them may even

come out this summer. I forget. But so that that's a great show. But there's already other renewals

that are in here, too. What the studio was one of them, which I'm watching right now. Such a good

show. I think they have two. I just watched this week's episode, which is a really funny one, by

the way. They're all funny. And I think that they have two more weeks after this week that are

coming out. What else is good here? Foundation foundation. I don't know. I don't know. A foundation

should be approved for another season. I mean, I you know what? I'm committed to it. I've watched

every every every episode. And but there's some that are leaving me scratching my head. And I'm

like, really? Like are we doing it? Are we going to I feel confused sometimes with the whole storyline?

But they know that's part of the book and the story, of course. But it looks fantastic. And I

and I will watch every episode when it comes out. But it's not the most favorite of a lot of people.

I know. I heard, you know, our friend, David Sparks, was talking this week about how he's so

exciting. The reason it's in the news this week is they announced that the third season comes out

on July 11. That's the new news. Right. They've already got the third season ready to go. David

Sparks loved the books foundation, which I think are Isaac Asimov. And although that's right, the

TV show makes a lot of changes from the books, it's like that the ideas of the books are in there.

I have never read the books. Right. I do enjoy it. But I tend to enjoy most sci fi. So I do like

Foundation and I'm excited for it to be coming back. But there were some other ones in here, too.

Like I had not even heard about this Spike Lee joint as a word. I know. With Denzel Washington

and Jeffrey Wright, both of whom are amazing, called Highest to Lois, which is I didn't link to it

here. But it's based on there's a very famous Japanese director. Is it Kirisawa? I'm pronouncing

it incorrectly. Who like he's like one of the best people in Japan for making movies. They took one

of his movies and they've sort of modernized it and stuff like that. And that's what this is going

to be. And so the trailer is very exciting. It looks like a trailer. The trailer looked great.

Yeah. So that one's going to be good. We knew that there was a comedy coming out. And now we know

it's coming out on June 4th. That's still where that stars Owen Wilson and Mark Irwin and Judy

Greer. What is this one? This is stick. Stick is about golf. And the idea is that Owen Wilson

used to be a golf star and then his career goes away and he finds some young prodigy that he sort

of but it's supposed to be funny. Okay. Owen Wilson can be funny and stuff. So that could be good

one. There is a movie coming out called Echo Valley on June 13th, which watch that trailer.

That's a little scary. And Julianne Moore. Yeah, that's going to be a spooky one. And the trailer

tells a lot about the story. But I mean, Julianne Moore is amazing and Sydney, Sweden. Yes, agreed.

You know, young talent. And then what was the last one that I linked today was interesting that the

LA Times, which is, you know, right there in Hollywood, what I thought was interesting about

this article, Brett, who was this Wendy Lee of the LA Times, she interviewed so many people

with so many Apple TV plus shows. And so it's just full of quotes. And, you know, there's

all sorts of little interesting tidbits in here. Like when Apple TV plus first came out,

however many years ago that was, there were people that are like, Oh, it's an Apple product. They

don't allow, you know, for example, they don't allow pornographic apps in the app store. And so

they're going to be very limited on what you can show an Apple TV plus. That is totally not true.

Apple lets you show anything on Apple TV plus. And and things about how much, you know, is Apple

giving too many notes to producers? Are they interfering with the productions? And most

people say no. I mean, there's the only example. Okay, good. The daily, not the daily show. John

Stewart had a show on Apple TV plus. You're getting the name of it. But he eventually canceled the

show because Apple had, you know, talked to him about a show that was having to do with China. And

they were a little uncomfortable about that because of the tension with China. But with that,

with that one exception, most of the producers has said Apple totally lets the creators do what

they want. Plus, they have enough money that they are giving lots of money to these productions so

that they can make really high value shows because they're so focused on quality, not quantity. In

fact, there was even a funny quote from a, who is the guy that runs Netflix? Ted Sorrento,

how you pronounce his last name, that he makes this comment like, you know, Apple is losing all

this money on Apple TV plus. I don't know how they're doing it, but they're smart. So I guess

they know what they're doing. But, you know, Apple doesn't need to make money on this. They're

spending money on these shows because it's part of the overall Apple ecosystem and stuff. And so

for them, they're not just looking at how much money do we make from subscriptions.

So if you have any interest in like the business side of Apple TV plus, this, this Los Angeles

time article is really interesting. Let's do in the know. In the know. Couple of tips real quick

as we round out here. I got a simple and sweet and short one here, Jeff. We talked about using

Siri and what it can do. If you didn't know, you can ask Siri to flip a coin for you. I don't know

why I've always had this as a tip in my back pocket, but it's a little fun. What I did not know

is that you could also ask her to roll the dice or him, depending on your, on your settings.

I always say, I always reference Siri as a her and then my wife gets mad because she's got it

as like an Australian man's accent, which makes me a little uncomfortable sometimes. But you can

ask Siri to flip a coin and it will do a full random coin flip. And it'll tell you heads or

tails and then you have a little button now that you can say flip again. But I didn't know that

you could say roll a dice or roll two dice. I just like that. I mean, you know, everybody likes

how, you know, holding dice in their hand and flipping about like that. But you know, in a

pitch, if you need to roll a dice and you need something that's a little random, you can just

ask Siri to do that, flip a coin or roll a die or even roll two dice, which I kind of like.

I wonder, can you say like my son started playing some, you know, Dungeons and Dragons,

can you roll a 12 sided? Maybe I'll have to, I have to see what do you, what do you call that?

Is that a 12 die? Siri roll a 12 sided dice. Are you done? Yeah. Oh, she's asking me if I want to

ask chat GPT to answer that. That's so helpful. Thank you, Siri. Thank you, Siri. Appreciate

that. That's my tip short and sweet today, Jeff, which may or may not work as you just showed.

So my, my tip today has to do with a frustrating experience I had this week. Sometimes apps just

don't work and I don't know what it is. So I had a problem this week, Brett, that I had two problems

and I do not know if they are related, but my carplay stopped working and some of my apps

were launching. In fact, I sent you a video. I think you just had it. Can you bring it for

a second? I did. Here it is. Things where this video is like 10 seconds, but if you press it,

you want me to play it? Okay. Yeah, just play it. I tried. Okay, here we go. One password app.

And as soon as I started the app, it just disappeared. I've never, it goes away.

Animation before it like it slides to the bottom of the screen. And then I say, well,

let me try the Facebook app and the same thing. I open it. Same thing. It slides away. And it did

over and over and over again. I'm like, what? I've never even heard of this before. So here's my

tip today and it has to do with apps behaving. That's so bizarre. What do you do? So to go to

the steps and hopefully you know some of these. The first level step is to quit the app and reopen

it. Yeah. And the way that you do that is you launch the app switcher, which is different depending

upon whether you have a face ID phone or one with the home button on it, the old phones. If you've

got the old home button, you sort of double press that. But if you have a modern iPhone,

you sort of swipe up a little bit from the bottom and it will, how does Apple say you do? You swipe

up from the bottom edge to bring up the app switcher and pause in the center of the screen. Yeah.

All the cards for your apps. If you take an individual app that's behaving badly,

swipe up to force quit the app. Oftentimes that will solve whatever your problem with the app is

that did not solve my problem. So then you need to go to the next step. And the next step is a

little bit more severe, which is delete the app completely. And then download it again from the

app store. Now it's a little dangerous to do this because if you have any settings in the app,

then you might lose them. Now, so for me, my two apps that I was having trouble with, as I just

said, were one password and Facebook. Facebook, I have nothing in the Facebook app. That's just

like a portal for their internet service anyway. So I have no problem deleting the Facebook app

and reinstalling it. And that was fine. And when I did it, it did one password. One password,

because of the modern one password, everything is stored in the one password cloud very securely.

And so it was totally easy. I just deleted the one. I mean, I say I just, I paused on this because I

was worried, but it was totally fine. I deleted the one password app. It says, are you sure you

want to do this? Yes. It asks if you want to save settings, whatever. And then I deleted it.

I downloaded a fresh copy from the app store. And when I started it, of course, I had to

type in my one password password, but then it downloaded from the internet all of my passwords

and stuff. The only thing I lost is that I had taken some specific things in one password and I

had pinned them to my home screen. And I don't think that those came across. So I had to re-pin

those, but that was not a big deal. So that did make these apps work again. But it didn't solve my

problems because I mentioned, and I don't know if this was real independently, but my carplay stopped

working. I would plug in my car, you know how you plug in your phone to the core of your car.

And my carplay was telling me that I didn't have a smartphone with carplay connected. And I'm like,

yeah, I do. And I even went into the settings of my car and it could see Jeff's iPhone 16.

It saw it and yet the carplay wasn't working. And so I think ultimately, Brett, that there's

something messed up with the carplay unit in my car because I have an older Honda board.

And so I think that it has some issue that maybe went from my car to my phone, but whatever it is,

it messed up carplay on my phone. And I can't remove the carplay app and reinstall it the way

I did for one password on Facebook because there is no carplay app, right? It's just part of the

system software. So how do you fix the system software? I mean, one thing you could do is the

next time that you install a software update, maybe it'll fix whatever was there before, but that

doesn't always work because Apple makes their software updates small so that they just do

Delta changes like they only change parts of the app that are changed. And so even though I knew

that iOS 18.5 was coming out next week, I wasn't sure that was going to solve it. So I did the

nuclear option. I totally restored my iPhone to factory settings, which is not a happy thing that

you want to do. It wasn't that bad though, because first of all, I went to iCloud on my settings

and I could see that my last backup was the day before. So there's a button there. I could say,

okay, do a backup right now, which doesn't take very long because it's just an incremental backup.

So, you know, three minutes later, I knew that my phone was completely backed up to iCloud.

And then I went and I did a race iPhone, which you can do through settings and you can restore it

to the factory settings. And it asks you a whole bunch of times, are you really sure you want to

do this? It asks you to delete the SIM too? Or do you want me to keep the eSIM? I'm like,

no, no, keep the eSIM. I don't want to have to reset up with AT&T. So keep the eSIM, but otherwise,

restore to factory settings. And it took about five minutes or so. And then I had a brand new

iPhone that said, hello, welcome to iPhone. Do you want to restore from another device or from

an iCloud? And I said, restore it from iCloud. And I let it do its thing. And it took about an hour

or so. And it was even more complicated for me because my device is part of a mobile device

management of my firm. So I had to set it up that way, which required me talking to my help desk

for a few minutes for them to give me enabled stuff. But it did work. And it wasn't that complicated

because most of it just, it just had to wait. It just took a long time to download all that data.

But it eventually did it. I had my MDM software reinstalled. And with a fresh new copy of the

operating system, my CarPlay works again. So it did work. Now, again, is there something messed up

with my car that's going to be messed up in the future? I don't know. But I will tell you, you

know, you don't want to take the nuclear option very often. But you know, it wasn't that bad,

right? I'm here to tell you that if you have to do it, it would require some time. A couple of my

apps, I had to redo the settings a little bit. It should make you nervous because it's a big deal.

But it did solve my problems. And so if you're listening to this podcast, it means that you're

tech savvy enough that you're probably the person that fixes your own devices. And other people in

your family, too, they're going to ones that are coming to you. And so these are like the tips that

are in my bag. You know, force quit the app. If that doesn't work, reinstall the app. And if you

really can't fix something, consider the nuclear option of factory reset with after an iCloud backup,

of course, or you can also backup to a computer if you want it over a cord. And it did solve my

problem. And it did work. And I was only out of commission for a short period of time. I had to

reset up my credit cards and stuff like that, you know, for Apple Pay. So it took some few steps.

But then I was up and running again. Okay, okay, okay. I have a question because I may have

one additional option. Please. Yeah, what did I miss? You talked about, okay. So because I have

experienced this before. Oh, okay. When you, it's very rare, right? When I've tried to open an app,

and it will, it will, it will, it will close down almost immediately. Now, the first thing, I think

you, you just quickly referenced this. One of the first things I always do right off the bat is I

go and see if there's an update for that app in the app store. You referenced that a little bit,

right? I tried that too. Yeah. Because if, if that was something that could be available, that may

fix if it is just that app, but you are doing it on multiple things. So your first step was quit

and reopen an app on the iPhone. I do that. Absolutely. I tell people, I go and just, you

know, swipe up on all of those little cards so that they close out. Now your second one was

delete and reinstall the app. I have, I have done that. But one other thing that sometimes I suggest

people try, Jeff, is a full reboot of the phone or what Apple calls. I did that too. I should have

said that. A forced restart. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So good. I figured, because I was like, surely,

I know we've talked about this, you know, it's, it's almost like harkening back to the old days

of tech support, right? If there's a problem with the computer, what do you do? You reboot, right?

Now this used to be easier, I feel like, and Apple kind of downplays this now, but today they call

it a forced restart of the iPhone. It's not simply like turn off the iPhone and then turn it back

on. I don't believe that that does the same thing as what this app, this, this, um, this, this help

article does. You're basically, you know, this is when you do the up volume, down volume, and then

you hold the side button and you continue to hold it and hold it. The screen goes completely blank.

You continue to hold that side button until you see the white Apple logo. That's what we call

like a forced restart or a full reboot. Now that doesn't always fix it, Jeff. And I, and I'm glad

that you have the other options there, but that's one of the things that I typically suggest. Like,

close all the apps and then do a forced restart and see if that fixes it. That would, I guess that

would be like step, you know, 1.5, right? Before you go on to even deleting the apps or doing that,

the nuclear option on there. But it sounds like you tried doing that too. I actually did not know.

I tried restarting my phone. It did not occur to me to do a forced restart. The only time that

I've ever done a forced restart is when my iPhone is dead to the world, which happens so infrequently.

That's right. It's not responsive. Yeah. If it's not responsive and you can't even do a regular

restart, you can always do this forced restart. And every time I do it, that's right. I have to

look online to see how to do it because I always forget what it is. You've got volume up, volume

down and hold the button on the side. I know me too. Say it out loud. But I always forget those

magic steps. I did not try that yesterday, Brett. I went in retrospect. That would have been,

that's another good tip. I wish I had thought about that. Yeah. Texted you today. What else should

I do? But I forgot about that one. Well, and they say it here. If iPhone isn't responding to your

point, just as I've used it too, you can turn it off and then turn it back on. Or like I said,

this is forcing it to restart. And again, you know, into your point, you have to look up these

buttons and you have to do it in pretty quick succession. Because when I'm doing, when I'm

talking to people over the phone, Jeff, I'm like, okay, you're going to do up volume, down volume,

and you're going to hold the side button. And of course, inevitably, people like don't push it

or they don't hold it long enough. And so it'll offer to turn off. And they think that's what

I'm saying. Like, oh, well, I can turn it off now. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't want

to turn off the phone and turn it back on. This is a little bit of a deeper dive into a, what they

call a force restart. So anyway, I'm okay, I'm glad that you, I knew we've talked about this before.

But this is one of those options there, along with the other two or three that you were talking

about there that I always suggest to folks like before you do that nuclear option, this would be

one more step you could do is a force restart, not off and on a force restart, because I find

sometimes, Jeff, that we'll fix it inevitably. Yeah, good tip. Yeah. Whoo. Okay, that's a lot today.

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