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Speaker 5: 1:43

In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. ¶¶ © B Emily Beynon.

Speaker 4: 3:16

Well, the clock has struck 13 once again and it is Tuesday, the 17th of June, year of our Lord, 2025. I'm Tony Arterburn, filling in for the greatth of June Year of Our Lord 2025.

Speaker 4: 3:29

I'm Tony Arterburn filling in for the great David Knight and of course now Travis Knight. I'm joined by my co-pilot and co-host, beans the Brave. If you don't know, that's my 12 and a half pound. I'd say it's 12 and a half. She's probably just a little bit heavier now because of treats, my Chihuahua from the mean streets of San Antonio here to make sure that we continue good vibes. There's no woodland creatures in this office or studio, no intruders, we'll be safe from that. Well, headlines make my job easy.

Speaker 4: 3:59

Not that I enjoy the dystopia or the upside down or the quickening or whatever you want to call it, the soon-to-be singularity of neoconservative, luciferian ideology converging at once. I remember something that the philosopher Plato wrote that only the dead had seen the end of war, and that sticks with me. Because you'd like to push back against that. You'd like to think that people learned lessons, but the only lesson we learned from history is that we do not learn from history. So I get to watch all of this stuff happen again. I remember when I was a kid I watched Oliver Stone's Platoon. It was around 1987, so I think I was about seven years old and I watched Platoon. That's for a young kid. That's not a great movie, but anyway, I watched it and I remember the end scene with Charlie Sheen, and there's that monologue going over the last credits about how they can never let this happen again to tell their story. Well, it happened again and then it's going to happen again and it looks like it's just continuing this awful, satanic cycle of war. But let's pray that it doesn't. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 4: 5:14

I like to like to think that there's been progress made on the anti-war front and, you know, certainly 2016 was a big turnout for those who wanted America first. Remember that We've lost our way. Maga kind of absorbed America first and like destroyed the essence of it. It took what I believed in, and this is something. When I ran for Congress, I was, you know, the candidate that was like Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan. I believed in these principles and that cost me dearly, by the way. I mean the establishment hated that. I mean you talk about trade policies or bringing the troops home. It's like showing a crucifix to a vampire. They hated it. And I was on the radio station. The radio station hated it, so it wasn't very popular. The radio station hated it, so it wasn't very popular. But I think 2016, that really showed me that there was a lot of people out there that agreed with me, and maybe they couldn't intellectualize it, but that's in their heart and their gut. They knew that something was wrong with living in the American empire not the American republic. But something happened.

Speaker 4: 6:25

And then the way that politics gets hijacks good things sometimes, like you, go back to the 19th century. We had the populist party. A lot of people don't remember that. We had a third party that was actually very powerful and, um, it got a lot of things done. It was trending towards breaking up the duopoly between the Democrats and the Republicans and then they took us to war in Spain. So that was used for that, by the way, which was to reset the left-right paradigm, to get us back on track of infighting and this false choice between left and right. And you know, looking at the headlines folks, and we'll dive into that today. I've got first hour. Just be me and we'll go over some headlines together and a couple of articles that I picked out. Second hour I've got Charlie Robinson, host of Macroaggressions, one of my good friends. He authored a book called the Octopus of Global Control. He also the Controlled Demolition of the American Empire many other things. He's got a great podcast and he's going to come on.

Speaker 4: 7:31

I've enjoyed his Twitter account the last couple of days. He's on fire. I want to talk to him about this stuff, but that's just what's going to dominate the show today. Unfortunately, I've got a little bit of you know, you can look at warfare and then getting outside of the fiat system, right? These are the two things that are in my wheelhouse and I'm going to do my best to make sense of it all for you. All right, let's go to the first article. What should we do? Let's go to the headlines at drudge and then I'll take you from there. We'll go to um. A couple of articles that break down what's happening. Caitlin johnson wrote a great article up on lou rockwellcom.

Speaker 4: 8:15

I definitely want to cover in this hour. In the third hour, by the way, um, I would like to do with the chat because we're. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the kick stream up today because I needed another sign in code and I didn't want to bother Travis at like six 30 in the morning. But next time, my host, I promise I'll have. I have almost everything else up. Next time, my host, I'll have that up.

Speaker 4: 8:39

But on the third hour I'd like to have an Ask Me Anything. I mean, ask me stuff that's in you know to talk about on the show. Ask me anything within the realm of you know geopolitics, history, philosophy, whatever and if it's you know, try to make it relevant to what is going on today. If you can do that, we'll have a comment section. I'll do that in the third hour. Maybe Charlie will stay on for a little while, but in the third hour, and we can. We can cover that in the third. So be ready in the third hour.

Speaker 4: 9:12

Hit the comments and if you want, I'm streaming over on my youtube at tony arterburn if you want it, because I'll see those comments right here in the stream yard studio. So if you want to hit at At Tony Arterburn on YouTube, you can join there and comment as well. But I'll check the rumble for David. Let's throw the headlines up. Let's see what the intelligence agencies Want me to talk about. I do this Because of what Sun Tzu admonished To know your enemy, ladies and gentlemen. I'm not a fan of Drudge. I do this because of what Sun Tzu admonished to know your enemy, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not a fan of drudge, but it's got a nice radiation symbol and a nuclear biological in the left-hand corner.

Speaker 4: 9:58

Iran could resort to unconventional means of retaliation. Nice headline to throw out there. They're just leaving it there, even though they don throw out there, they're just leaving it there, even though they don't have a nuclear weapon. Just leaving it there. Idf underestimated military strength. Oh, it's kind of like we did in Iraq War II, where Donald Rumsfeld thought that you could hold the country with 50,000 troops. Bunker-busting missiles, shake faith and safety. There's also a report of a collision of fire in the Strait of Hormuz. That's unrelated to this, but just happened to be on the same day that tensions are peaking. Okay, and of course they throw around just much like lindsey graham um resident stooge for satan, uh, in the us senate.

Speaker 4: 10:56

Much like lindsey graham just throws out, you know, assassinating world leaders that hold nuclear weapons, like he did this I mean, I know we have short memories in the country, but do you like it wasn't that long ago we had Lindsey Graham calling for the assassination of President Putin. Right of Russia.

Speaker 8: 11:12

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Speaker 4: 13:04

They're psychotic and Netanyahu same thing with the Ayatollah, just throwing that out there. You know, just world leaders. You know, inside their own nations, you aren't. You aren't safe from the war machine that's been set up through the United States empire. Set up through the United States empire. This is funny. Yesterday I saw the Sebastian Gorka. You know, sebastian, he's just let's see. What is he? What would you define him as? An establishment shill, a faux intellectual? I don't want it.

Speaker 4: 13:44

It's his David shows. I don't want to dress Sebastian Walker down too much, but he's exhausting and he has all these ideas that failed, gods, that failed. And he throws up this. And he's such a sycophant too. He throws up a post yesterday on Instagram and I'm just doing this by memory. He throws up this post and he says and I'm just doing this by memory he throws up this post and he says President Trump has spoken and it has something about it. Kooky Tucker Carlson, this is from Trump, kooky Tucker Carlson. Somebody tell Kooky Tucker Carlson that Iran cannot possess a nuclear weapon. So this is what this next headline Tucker Carlson, conflict, end of Trump's presidency, according to this is the headline, by the way. So day five IDF drones hunt over Tehran. Iran prepares largest strike. G7 is split.

Speaker 4: 14:48

Trump leaves the summit and they ask the question is the USA officially going to join the war? Well, it's hard not to see how we wouldn't you hope that some sort of rationality prevails. It reminds me of the 13 Days movie and Kevin Costner plays Kennedy's aide and he just kind of breaks down. He says you know, maybe the sun will come up tomorrow and the goodwill will prevail, the will of good men. I hope that's the case. All right, let's X out of this. And I want to take you to kind of the fallout of what happened after these strikes and the tension Trump leaving the G7 summit. This kind of rhetoric I don't know. I mean, if you study history it's not necessarily outside of the realm of precedence, as David calls President Trump Calls President Trump. But there was this offhand remark that Reagan had when he was warming up for a radio-free America.

Speaker 4: 16:13

Whatever he was doing, it was one of the radio broadcasts that the president does and he didn't know he was being recorded. He was just warming up and thought he was joking a little bit and said that he's outlawed Russia. You can find the audio clips. I've outlaw and I'm sending. The bombers are on their way. It's just a joke. Um, uh, but you know you fast forward to our time. And then you know even reagan, he only he called the soviet union an evil empire, but only called it that one time, and that was uh prior to gorbachev. He never said that again. Of course, by the end of the 80s he's walking, you know uh, shoulder to shoulder with gorbachev and red square patting him on the back. Um, epical moments, you know, and that was a. The end of that decade was really staggering for peace and there's a lot of hope.

Speaker 4: 17:01

You know there's things that could happen at the end, of course, you know that know that's all history and we can certainly go over that and what was lost, but this kind of rhetoric. You can decide for yourself what this means. This is Trump. Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran. The apparent threat comes amid indications that the US may begin bombing Iran directly, and this is by Dave DeCamp over at Antiwarcom. President Trump on Monday appeared to threaten Iran, writing on his true social account that Iran should have signed a deal and calling for the immediate evacuation of Iranian capital of Tehran, a city of about 10 million people. Iran should have signed the deal. I told them to sign. What a shame, A waste of human life. Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. I said it over and over again Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran. Said it over and over again everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran.

Speaker 10: 18:07

Well, you know in an age of nuclear weapons and being the foremost.

Speaker 4: 18:14

I don't know what you want to call us anymore. We're used to be, especially after the end of the Cold War, we were the lone superpower. Maybe we're a stupor power now, something like that. We used to be the greatest creditor nation. We used to be a productive nation. Now we're the greatest debtor and we import everything Consumptive. Consumptive reminds me of the old westerners. He's got consumption. Yeah, he's sick. He made the threat while attending the g7 summit in canada.

Speaker 4: 18:48

White house press secretary carolyn levite said after trump's post that the president would be leaving the summit because of what's going on in the middle east. It's kind of interesting. Why, why, why you can do everything from there. What do you need to do? That's interesting. What's going on in the Middle East? He's on Fox News and everybody's kind of with bated breath Like when are we going to hit?

Speaker 4: 19:25

There's a certain demographic and I've learned this and being in so-called conservative talk radio there's a certain demographic of people that they target with the Fox News headlines and they just love war. They love, like, the action of it. They want to have embedded reporters, you know. They want to see Oliver North with the camera behind a bunch of Marines blowing up stuff. They like that. They like the bombs falling. They love to call into shows. I know this, by the way. I mean I know this firsthand because I would follow Mark Levin. My show followed Mark Levin. It's a station that no longer exists in San Antonio, but I would go there every evening and I would have the same people listening, but I would throw on the phone lines.

Speaker 4: 20:10

I open up with something like this, talking about the neocon. They didn't understand. They're like when are you going to talk about bombing Iran Seriously? And that's what. That's what they called in about. They're very animated by it. And Pete Hegseth he really, you know highlights that US officials have denied rumors that the US began striking Iran and have said that the US remains in a defensive posture in the Middle East. Trump's post came after Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said that he ordered the deployment of additional US capabilities to the Middle East. Us officials confirmed that a massive deployment tanker aircraft was related to the Israel-Iran war. The first casualty of war is the truth. How did this even start? Well, I mean, if you're watching fox news, then you don't know.

Speaker 4: 21:14

Um, you have caitlin jenner you know, bruce or whatever, he's having a sipping wine in a bunker, uh, praising Trump and Netanyahu and Israel. It's kind of the clown world thing that we're in now, because nobody really knows like well we're going to get these terrorists. I'm like Israel bombed Iran. Of course you know, soon, if this kicks off and accelerates enough, you won't even hear from people like me, I won't even be able to broadcast because of the 1917 Espionage Act.

Speaker 4: 21:49

Woodrow Wilson threw people in jail because they criticized World War I, a great war, you know, world War I, one of those wars that really helped us, if you can ever find anybody who can even explain it to you, because you can't, I promise. I mean they'll try, but they just just can't. It's just a bloodletting, it was a ritualistic bankers war. Sources familiar with the matter have told antiwarcom editorial director scott horton that the trump administration is poised to enter israel's aggressive war against iran directly by launching airstrikes which will almost certainly provoke attacks on US bases in the region. Which is, yeah, if you do X, then Y will happen. That you know, I think, cause and effect. And they know that, by the way, 1,000%. They know that, by the way, 1000%. They know that, which would be escalation which will take a lot of pressure.

Speaker 4: 22:52

You know war hides a lot. You can hide a lot of things in war. You can hide the fact that you've neglected your own people, your infrastructure, infrastructure. You know America's decaying and has. You know you can't drink the water in a lot of these places. Or the rail lines are, you know, 80 years behind. Or the airports are broken down and the highways are always being worked on. And you know veterans are. You know this massive amount of veteran homelessness.

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Speaker 4: 25:12

Kids going to sleep hungry at night. You have an entire generation of young men have given up in areas like the Rust Belt that are on drugs and other things because we pawned America's soul. We don't have living wage jobs, we just have a Mitt Romney-style venture vulture capitalist economy. Israel started bombing Iran on Friday, two days before the US and Iran were due to hold another round of nuclear negotiations. Trump had been demanding Iran eliminate its nuclear weapons program, which was a non-starter for Tehran. Despite the apparent impasse, iran was set to present a counterproposal to the US, but the talks were canceled after Israel launched its war. Proposal to the US, but the talks were canceled after Israel launched its war. Yeah, that's a great line. It launched its war. This is Israel's war. They started it. They should finish it and we should let them do that. We've been fighting for them for decades. It's funny.

Speaker 4: 26:25

You know the Israeli lobby pushed real hard to get us into both Iraq wars. That got Pat Buchanan in trouble. You know he said famously on the McLaughlin Group back in the early 90s like 1990, that the only people that supported the Gulf War was, I think, the contractors in the Amen corner at AIPAC. That was considered really controversial. You're not even supposed to mention AIPAC, the American-Israeli Political Action Committee. You're not supposed to mention that. Wow, you're fringe that you recognize something. They pushed really hard for that. I never saw an Israeli troop, though Not one ever Ever, but they definitely wanted that, you know toppling. It's good for them, you know, and they have a right to do that. They have a right to try to get whatever happened to benefit their nation. So do we? You know we don't do that. Our leaders don't really steer our country that way. It'd be nice, but we really don't look out for the interests of the United States that way, the way that Israelis do. I mean, they put themselves at least their perceived benefit way before others, and good on them, and we should have the ability to call that out and say, yeah, that's not how this country's supposed to work, but you'll get labeled something else.

Speaker 4: 27:56

Prime minister benjamin netanyahu launched the war under the pretext of stopping iran from stopping Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. This is 2025, right, I've been watching him say that since the 90s. But it has been the consensus of the US intelligence community that there was no evidence Tehran was working toward a nuclear weapon. Yeah, that seems to be the consensus, because that's true weapon yeah, that seems to be the consensus because that's true, it's. It's for this fact and the whole thing about the nuclear deal or stopping it from getting a bomb, can you really blame any country?

Speaker 4: 28:39

What's the lesson learned from the ir war? Or from Libya or Syria? What's the lesson learned? What do we teach? We teach if you don't have the bomb, we're going to do this to you. You're going to get regime change, you're going to be invaded, you're going to be defiled. If you do have the bomb, well then you're North Korea. Saddam didn't have the bomb. As a matter of fact, the Israelis blew up his nuclear reactor he was working with the French, it was called Osirik, it was back in the early 80s Just blew it up using American-made fighter aircraft and you know we wonder like, why do they hate us? You have these occupied territories, you know, by the Israelis and flying over an American-made helicopter gunships. You know there's an association there, interesting. I got some comments over on my YouTube from Jim Nike. I hope I'm saying that right. Trump has put himself in an inescapable trap. If he backs Israel, american blood will be spilled and MAGA will turn on him. If he doesn't back Israel, the Zionists will turn on him.

Speaker 4: 30:19

I think the calculated bet there and I think you've made a great point.

Speaker 4: 30:27

I think the calculator risk on his part, has got to look where the money and the influence comes from, and I don't think that MAGA really, whatever that means. Now it's been so diluted. It's kind of like the Tea Party movement, by the way. The Tea Party movement, by the way, the tea party movement was started by ron paul. It was started on december 16th 2007, I remember, and that's when he raised more money, I think, in one single day, than any presidential candidate in history. From you know, from regular people, from actual human beings that you know he ran on peace and prosperity and liberty and that was a great day. I remember it and that's what the Tea Party was founded on. And then, as time went on, it became, as you know. You get the Koch brothers involved and you got others that use that as a because, again, principle has to be backed up by something. That's why you know good on them. Like the Catholics are very much, I went to a private Catholic university after I was out of the army, called the University of Dallas, very prestigious school. I studied philosophy for a couple of years and I loved it. It's a very expensive book club but they welcome debate on their faith and everything else and I thought that was good. You can't do that really in a grassroots movement anymore because it's hard for them to defend it. So the principles get changed from the top. It's very fluid and I remember by the time I ran for Congress it was like a lot of the principles that Ron Paul had talked about got lost, because you would see people, this Tea Party movement, would be flying an Israeli flag and I'd go now, wait a minute, this is not. That's not what the Tea Party movement was for. I mean that you carrying that flag. It also represents foreign aid. It represents interventionism. It intervention militarism. I mean it. It represents interventionism, it intervenes militarism. I mean again, you know, like all these things are just bloated, everything right, the antithesis of what, and that's just one aspect of it. But that would happen a lot, you know. And or get your government hands off my Medicaid stuff, like that. You know it just got diluted and so I think that's what's happened to whatever maga is, and there's a lot of great people, I think their hearts in the right place, um, but unfortunately that's what politics will do. I mean it just takes I I talked to years ago when I first decided I was going to run for office and I talked to this uh, lady, lady, she wasn't much older than me but she was been in the game a long, long time.

Speaker 4: 33:05

It's very smart. And she told me don't do this. Just start like get into what you want to do, start a like a, a pack or you know a nonprofit, like talk about what you want, push the ideas, but stay out of this arena, cause it's just where ideas go to die, and like it is really. She was, she was right about that and I remember that lunch she was like if you could just do, if you could just stick to the ideas, like stick to radio, stick to things, like push the ideas but stay out of this thing. And she was right, we'll see. And that comment was from the Lazarus man. Thank you, lazarus man.

Speaker 4: 33:45

All right, I'm going to go to the Rumble chat and check on what's going on over there. And then we got an article by Caitlin Johnston. I may get to let me talk a little finance. Before we do that, I will harp on war, won't I? Such an honor to be filling in for david too, and I got a text him back at a text from him yesterday. Um, love the audience, love you guys, let's check on rumble. Hold on a second, get a little. Whenever I click on that, I have my little voice coming back to me. Let's see trucker Chris FTW. I followed Caitlin Johnston on twitter before I was banned this past weekend. Well, you might have been banned for following her. It's great, she's got a lot of great articles. I don't always agree with her, but I think, uh, she's definitely a sound thinker.

Speaker 4: 35:07

Yeah, remember the Liberty. Yes, sending our 53-year-old aircraft carrier out to be sunk by Iran Right, sunk by Iran. We'll talk to Charlie Robinson in the next hour. He's got something to say about that. Let's see. Let's see. You guys have a lot of chat over here. I take that for granted. I'm building. If you want to follow me, I'm on Rumble. I'm not live right now, but I'm over on the America Unplugged channel and I have the Arterburn radio transmission. I do every Thursday at 11 am Central time. 12 Eastern KWD 68 says MAGA will support Trump until the last bomb falls. Yes, they will, whatever that means to you.

Speaker 4: 36:02

Whatever, MAGA means, but it's space, it's the base. He'll have outliers and I don't think Tucker Carlson's going to refit back into the whatever mold. I think he's kind of gone a certain way and that's a journey for I think he. I think he understands, if you look at the trend of journalism, media, whatever, it means, um to you that the old ways and the legacy ways are gone. The establishment, all this stuff, traditional foreign policy, all that is. It's not the trend for the future. Yeah, gardner goldsmith, goldsmith, the great Gard Goldsmith, trump is going to make it impossible for other national leaders to enter negotiations with the US. Yes, he will Always great to hear from Gard. I wonder if Gard's got to be hosting sometime this week. You guys stay tuned for him. He's got to be back here. All right, let's talk a little finance. I'll leave the Caitlin Johnston article up. I definitely want to spend some time on it and I realized I went a little long on the Trump piece about evacuating Tehran.

Speaker 4: 37:30

We'll talk a little finance and this is what I was going to bring up earlier. So the rest of the world and the players on Wall Street, high finance, which high finance and intelligence go together, folks. But they decided, as of yesterday, before Trump left the G7. Before Trump left the G7. Okay, so this is interesting that they felt like the war between Israel and Iran was contained geographically between those two nations. Interesting because the price of gold reflects that. But then you have Pete Hegseth. This is what I was going to segue into, but I get sometimes lost in stream of consciousness. Then you get pete. He's jumping on fox news. We're ramping things up, we're, we're sending things over. Why are they doing that when the rest of the world, it feels like it's contained geographically? These are the little tells, right? These are things that I watch. I'm like well, the rest of the world, you know finance. Well, this looks like it's contained, it looks like it's proportional, and this is from Kitco.

Speaker 4: 38:58

Middle East chaos won't drive gold prices to 4,000, but this will. It's the Bank of America. Gold prices to $4,000, but this will. It's the Bank of America. Gold prices have fallen back below $3,400 an ounce as the conflict between Israel and Iran has not seen regional escalation, but while the precious metal continues its broader consolidation, commodity analysts at Bank of America say it still has a path to $4,000 an ounce. In its latest report, the bank's precious metals team, led by Michael Weidner, stated that gold retains significant upside potential as investment demand has only just begun to grow. However, the analysts also cautioned that the chaos in the Middle East is not expected to provide sustainable bullish momentum for the yellow metal. So this is the analysis from traders and things like within the last 48 hours, somehow, but our government's ramping things up Interesting, isn't it? Although gold is a popular safe haven asset, historically event-induced demand has never proven to be sustainable.

Speaker 8: 40:18

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Terms apply Available at pockethostcom slash terms Some analysts note that gold is facing selling pressure at the start of the week, as the conflict has not impacted global oil supplies, an event that would typically drive oil prices higher, influencing inflation and global economic growth. Yeah, I checked the price. That's. The first thing I checked this morning was the price of crude. It's actually down just a little bit. And I have a good friend of mine who's in the Middle East right now works for a large oil company. He's been an executive there for years.

Speaker 4: 42:38

We talk energy sometimes and we were talking both about the straight-of-the-whore moves. I remember talking to my dad about that 25 years ago, like that's always been the play and maybe this has always been the war plans. Maybe this is like our version the West, the neocons and that alliance between the establishment and Israel. Maybe they have their own von Schlieffen plan. That's what the Germans had in World War I. They worked on it for years and Israel. Maybe they had their own von Schlieffen plan. That's what the Germans had in World War I. They worked on it for years and years, like the Franco-Prussian War after the 1870s. They worked on this plan to invade France through Belgium and mobilize all the troops, especially after the advent of modern troop transports and things like that. But that's like they had the von Schlieffen plan, and maybe this is just playing out, maybe because I've been hearing about this for my whole life. So what was going to happen if Israel was attacked? Spoiler alert, they started it right.

Speaker 4: 43:54

When it comes to gold, wars are not always a clear-cut bullish price driver, the analyst said. The conflict adds, however, to the confluence of factors that have been supportive for the yellow metal. Rather than focusing on specific geopolitical events, bank of America analysts are monitoring the broader economic landscape and gold's growing appeal as the important global monetary asset. Well, they're right, and it hasn't really done anything. Gold had its all-time high again a month ago or so. It was $3,500 an ounce and the silver was at $35 an ounce. So it's 100 to 1 on the silver to gold ratio. So this really hasn't not yet and you know there are some terrible ifs out there if you have the outliers or the black swans or whatever that cause gold to go parabolic. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Speaker 4: 45:00

But all the fundamentals are still like the coarse gold is poised to go to four thousand dollars. An coarse gold is poised to go to $4,000 an ounce. It's poised to go to whatever number you can conceive, it will go up in terms of dollars. That's just math, I mean. That doesn't mean you're a genius trader. It just means that you understand that fiat is fake and fiat has no bottom and gold and silver and bitcoin have no top. So you know, on a long enough timeline it's like, it's like zero hedge. You know, uh, quoting fight club on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everything drops to zero.

Speaker 4: 45:44

This comes as the US government debt continues to grow at an unsustainable pace. Bank of America noted that gold is attracting new interest as Congress debates a new spending bill that aims to cut taxes, which is expected to increase the deficit by trillions of dollars. That's not really what increases. It's not the tax cuts that increase the deficit by trillions of dollars, it's the trillions of dollars that we print. It's the trillions of dollars that we borrow. You could have no income tax, just have some tariffs and some consumption tax. You could do that.

Speaker 4: 46:24

You could dismantle the, you could stop doing everything that we're doing that would Overseas. You don't need what? 700 bases in 132 countries you don't need that. It's definitely not for American security. Market concerns over fiscal sustainability are unlikely to fade, regardless of the outcome of senate negotiations. The analyst said rate volatility and a weaker us dollar should keep gold supported, especially if the us treasury or the feds is ultimately forced to step in and support markets.

Speaker 4: 47:06

Yeah, we got less than a year and it looks like Jerome Powell will be replaced. Trump will look to be hawkish Hawkish for rate cuts. That's the opposite of what the Fed is. I think he'll be looking to rev that engine. Do those rate cuts?

Speaker 4: 47:31

and maybe drop them to zero, who knows? Because it'll be just on the heels or coming up on the election cycle. So there'll be a lot going on there, ladies and gents, and that's going to drive you talk about, gents, and that's going to drive you talk about I think that's going to drive prices crazy. It depends on what happens between now and then, too, with the geopolitically, although gold appears a little crowded as prices have consolidated elevated levels, bank of america believes it still has room to grow. We're still going to be, and they said they expect gold between $3,000 and $3,500 an ounce, just normally, it says. The final supportive factor for gold is the broadening rally in the precious metals sector, as silver and platinum have attracted new bullish momentum. Well, you know why, though.

Speaker 4: 48:39

Silver and platinum have been outliers for a long time, especially platinum. People started ordering some platinum from me recently. I've sold it over the years. One customer I won't say his name, this has been a few years had a very large IRA rollover. He did like I'm saying large, he did like 30% in platinum and I thought really, but he bought one ounce Canadian platinum coins. You you know so sovereigns and uh he's done.

Speaker 4: 49:09

Well, I was thinking. I was looking at his charts the other day just because I keep records of everything, I thought, wow, it's, that was a good trade, like the whole thing, because he just bought physical, precious metals with his ira so he had a whole bunch of you know in paper and, uh, put it all into some great products and that's all stored in a vault. So he's got physical precious metals.

Speaker 4: 49:33

You guys, not that I plug too much, but you can go to davidknightgold If you want to roll over paper assets, especially in these, like if you're looking at the actual metrics like me, if you want to roll over paper assets into something you call me, go to davidknightgold and reach out and we'll. We'll take a look at what you got. I promise I won't plug that much. I'm not really a plug guy, but that just made me think of that because those are outliers for a reason.

Speaker 4: 50:02

Gold and silver I mean we talk about gold like they just go together that way. But silver is starting to do its own thing. Contracts that got called, there's other physical issues with the above-ground supply and it's finally having. It's like, if you notice, gold went in the red from yesterday, went over $3,400 an ounce and down below that. So let's see what what price is right now. But I'll just give you an example. Yeah, as I was talking, silver broke $37 an ounce. It's $37 an ounce and two cents. Gold was at $3,400 plus and it's down under $3,400, $3,394. So it's down about a point from opening this morning. So those are going in different directions.

Speaker 4: 50:54

Silver is becoming its own market again, which is great and I think it's just the beginning of something and the reason why and it's like the fundamentals in that article like the geopolitical tensions can drive something. So if you're a day trader, that's something you really want to watch. But if you're long term, like me, um, and that's just what you're going to be in it, you start looking at these trends for accumulation. And then silver is being added as a strategic reserve asset. Places like russia, other countries, multinationals, they're starting to move into it because of the I mean, it's affordable, it's real, you can store it, it's a commodity, it's an industrial metal, all that stuff. So is platinum. Platinum has the same properties and it's just been kind of an outlier and it hasn't done much. But that is, I think, a trend that will.

Speaker 4: 51:50

You'll start to see a an upward trend in pricing because of what's happening with the dollar. It's just another one of those commodities. Okay, I saw something and we'll see if we can get to it and I want to keep this Caitlin Johnson article, but it was something that I think you're going to see a growing trend. I try to just bring you the trends and I'm only on ever so often.

Speaker 8: 52:18

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Terms apply Available at pockethostcom, so you know this may be some more on gold and Bitcoin, but it's something to watch, like a lot of what's happening right now. A lot of these multinationals and big companies are starting to become Bitcoin treasuries, and there's one there's one that I saw that I thought well, that's new and it's just under the trend. You're going to need to watch. There's all these companies that are starting Bitcoin treasuries. They started with micro strategies with Michael Saylor and that became a very profitable deal. He raised capital through stocks and they buy Bitcoin, put it on the balance sheet and these other companies started to do that. Actually, a couple of the Trumps are involved in that, but this is something different.

Speaker 4: 54:54

Let me one more comment from the Lazarus man. I believe Trump's biggest concern is how he's going to have all his supporters Remember him as a rich and powerful leader who was surrounded by beautiful yeah, something like that. Like you know, the same concern that Cicero had. Right, we live in interesting times, which is the Chinese curse. We live in interesting times. It's also really stupid. It is idiocracy, it's dangerous and that's what.

Speaker 4: 55:35

If you want to know, what like bothers me is as I read history, you know I'll be involved, like I'll have my mind in in whatever timeline. That's how my mind works. It's kind of weird whenever I read something, I kind of think in in timelines and like I'll put myself there and like I'd want to, how I would react with these characters or whatever, especially if you're like talking about the beginning of the 20th century, which is really a massive change, and one of the things that I've always noticed about that time is how brilliant people were. I mean speak several languages, they were masters of their craft. I mean it was just a different time.

Speaker 4: 56:10

They didn't like if you went to travel, then it's not kind of like in the 1960s. You show up to the airport with a suit on. Now you go and people just walk around with buckets of Coke and everybody's dressed like they're going to bed or something. It's just. You know it's a different time, but those people were so smart and they still made just the worst decisions. So it's like, wow, what are we going to do? All right, let me jump over this article and we've got just a little bit of time, but this is a trend.

Speaker 4: 56:42

I want you to pay attention to. Stuff like this. It's not just me touting my businesses. There's something to this if you're looking at the in the realm of finance, and it's not just about investing. The reason I bring these articles to your attention is because this is the, the global shift of the monetary system, which is the. It's a revolution of money, and that means that's going to mean everything, to domestic policy in the united states, to foreign policy, everything. It's all tied in together. And so, you see, you starts with the free, the, what's considered the. We don't have a free market anymore, but it's, you know, the the market. It starts there, and then you start seeing these trends and it's it's de-dollarization by companies, not just, uh, governments. Let me put this up on the screen. This was on zero hedge, it just caught my attention. This is a uk gold mining companybird is to convert revenues into Bitcoin. Bluebird Mining Ventures LTD. A Pan-Asian gold project development company, recently announced a major strategic shift it plans to convert future revenues from its gold mining projects into Bitcoin and adopt Bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset. See, that's key there.

Speaker 4: 58:09

So I listen to a lot of Bitcoin podcasts. I listen to as many gold ones as I can, and before the end of the show I'll let you know and I'll get the links today. But I'm starting a new show. It'll be something I haven't done before. We're going to do it every week and we're going to have a newsletter with it. So standby that's going to be like in the next 30 days. I'll have it locked in, dialed in, but we're going to talk about this kind of stuff and I've been following these podcasts and what I'm finding is a lot of these big companies are starting to become Bitcoin treasury companies, which, again, it's not me talking about Bitcoin, it's the move away from the dollar folks. So this is all happening inside of the Great Reset. This is by Oscar Zaraj Perez via BitcoinMagazinecom. By the way, they put out a tweet Strategy shift to convert gold into digital gold, combining income streams from gold mining projects and recycling these revenues into a proactive Bitcoin and treasury management by adopting a gold plus, a digital gold strategy. It offers the company an opportunity to turn the page and look into the futures, to seek to attract a new type of shareholder, and that's what I've been saying for a long time.

Speaker 4: 59:42

I mean you had some people can be really myopic and maybe you don't like bitcoin. You don't have to. Um, I look at it from the standpoint of what it's, what it's supposed to represent, and that is in a sea of infinite fiat. It's finite. It's the same thing with gold and silver and if you look at the actual charts of how much supposed wealth there is in the world, it's not that as much as they say there is. It's probably like they say it's. You know, could be a thousand trillion or whatever 500 trillion who really knows exactly how much? But it's a wash in fiat currency. The market cap of gold's like 20 trillion, so 20 out of hundreds, you know, and that's represents all the what would be considered money in the world, cause everything else gold is money, everything else is debt, everything else is, you know JP Morgan said his credit the market cap of Bitcoin is like 2 trillion, so gold's at 20. Gold's at $20. Bitcoin's at like $2. And that's nothing in the scheme of things. So this is stuff to watch, because the world, even starting with companies, is shifting away from the fiat system and that's where the revolution's taking place. That's why I bring it up.

Speaker 4: 1:01:09

The announcement comes as Bluebird progresses towards a key agreement on a flagship Philippine project. So much mining going on too. It's another thing. With gold mining there's a junior miners. There's so many projects happening right now and I think you want to see, you should start paying attention to what's going on with silver, because silver a lot of the silver mining companies like there's so few of them because it hasn't been profitable because of the clown world metrics of how silver is valued. Well, it's paper with Wall Street, but I would look at that that's a trend, because a lot of the silver that's mined just comes from gold mining companies that go out and find silver just because they're mining for gold or mining for zinc or mining for copper or whatever, and they pull it out of the ground. Well, we have some silver that will refine that too. It's going to become profitable again to mine silver. So a lot of these I mean these companies will be popping up. Mining will be a big thing because it's a race for commodities.

Speaker 4: 1:02:21

Ladies and gentlemen, bluebird plans to recycle revenues from its mining operations directly into Bitcoin align with what it describes as an innovative treasury approach. Let's see, this is not. This is not just them Like. There's a whole host of companies that are just putting Bitcoin on their balance sheet. Why would they do that? There's a lot of stuff coming out.

Speaker 4: 1:02:49

It's back in January of 24 when BlackRock announced the ETF. I said watch this. I think Bitcoin was trading at $29,000 or whatever it was. It was low compared to what it is now, but that's what drove that price, combining income streams from gold mining projects and recycling these revenues into a proactive Bitcoin and treasury management approach. So there's two things. Like they're pulling gold out of the ground. It's slowly becoming recognized again as the world's reserve currency, which will change everything. And I think, at the end of the day, like they have to run. You know, you have the, you'll own nothing and be happy. Klaus Schwabian, luciferian, davos, great reset, right, they have that setup, that simulation, but they also have to run the same. Like okay, if we wanted to have a functioning world, like how do we do that? Well, you have to get rid of it, you have to reset from fiat and those who have used fake money to accumulate assets would be sitting in the best.

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Speaker 4: 1:06:14

So you'd have to have lawmakers who understand law and math. You wouldn't just be able to print like we have been. You'd have to go back to budget constraints and there would be debates on that. They don't even know how to do that anymore. It's Hollywood for ugly people at this point. But if you did, it's estimated gold would be minimum $10,000 an ounce. If you reset it which I'm not even for, by the way you could do something different. Maybe just have governments not be in the currency business. That would be great. That's a utopia, right? That's never going to happen. But I always like to ask why? Why do you do that? I don't need you. We already have, but we know what our money's worth. And if you deal in gold, silver or Bitcoin, you can look and see Private institutions do much better at that.

Speaker 4: 1:07:12

I should be expecting Charlie Robinson any minute. Now let's go check out Charlie's Twitter. There he is. I'm going to pull Charlie in real quick for you. There he is, I'm pulled charlie in real quick. All right, this is my friend charlie robinson. Macroaggressions fame. Welcome back to the david knight show, sir thanks for having me.

Speaker 12: 1:07:39

Are we reading zero hedge?

Speaker 4: 1:07:41

we were reading zero hedge uh, I had an article up. There's a, a british gold mining company, that's going to take their profits from gold mining and turn it into a bitcoin treasury.

Speaker 12: 1:07:51

That's just yes, yeah, I've got it post uh set to go up today on activist post.

Speaker 4: 1:07:56

Yep, yes, yes, I wanted to mention activist post.

Speaker 12: 1:07:59

I was just pulling your, your twitter up and uh I had a bit of a run yesterday, the last two days you know I never get any traction on that site. It's uh, I'm talking to myself. As far as I'm concerned. I did make a, a kind of offhanded comment that, uh, when they were, they were moving the Nimitz. I said, uh, it looks like they're positioning the false flag or they're moving the false flag piece into that one right there Got 1.4 million views and 48,000 likes. I've never had that before.

Speaker 4: 1:08:37

My favorite shot is the comments. And did you read the comments? Every single one.

Speaker 12: 1:08:43

There wasn't as far as I could see, and I didn't read. I didn't read every single one of them, but almost everyone I saw was and I didn't read every single one of them, but almost everyone I saw was like yep, uh-huh, it's coming. There wasn't a single person going oh, you're crazy, get out of here with this stuff. They were all like, yeah, I could see that happening. I mean, once you know the playbook, it's like football. Once you know the plays, the other team runs and they line up in that formation, you go, I know what's coming next, based on the game film I've been watching and we've been watching Israeli game film for a long time. We know how this works. We know how they operate.

Speaker 12: 1:09:18

By way of deception, thou shalt do war, so expect, expect a covert means, expect some sort of false flag, expect something. Now, it may not be the Nimitz, it may happen in. You know it may happen in Nebraska. You know it may be one of those situations where it's easy to dismiss. Oh well, you know Americans aren't going to get all riled up into wanting to go into World War Three if something happens in the you know the red sea or someplace you know. But if it happens in kentucky or arizona or someplace that you're not expecting that, then it sends the message that if it could happen in this small town americana, then it could happen anywhere, and if it can happen anywhere then everybody needs to be afraid.

Speaker 4: 1:10:05

I was thinking on my way into the studio this morning about, for some reason, the movie Patton popped into my head and George C Scott, you know, and it has that scene where he's going to fight Rommel for the first time and he'd been studying Rommel, you know. So he actually read Rommel's book on tank tactics, you know. And then he gets, he's excited because he defeats, he has a small skirmish, defeats him and says you magnificent sob, I read your book. You know it's kind of like.

Speaker 4: 1:10:35

It's kind of like where we are now. Uh, you're so right. I mean this is. It seems like they run the same play and they would. It is like the world, by the way, like rational I say semi-rational people, but markets I I was talking about this earlier, charlie markets already anticipated that. They're like okay, we see the back and forth between Israel and Iran. We see this is geographically contained. So the price of gold pulls back because they're like well, nothing else here. This should be a, this will burn itself out. It's geographically contained.

Speaker 4: 1:11:07

Meanwhile, the Trump administration he's rushing back from the g7. You got pete hegg, seth going on on. You know all, all hands on deck for fox news. You know hyperventilation and you're going. So what? Wait a minute, what is it? What are you doing? And then you have all the, all the talking heads and the sycophants for the military industrial complex are already saying look out, for you know, terror attacks here, which has nothing to do with you know what's actually happening there yeah, but speaking of knowing the israeli play, in my octopus book I wrote a chapter called student body right.

Speaker 12: 1:11:43

And student body right is an old play of an old football play that you, the USC Trojans, used to run in the late sixties when they had OJ Simpson as their running back. We won't we won't get into what OJ wound up doing in the future, but but the play was hand off the ball to OJ. Everybody, pull your tackles, pull everybody in and run it. Run everybody off to the right hand side. Everybody's going to block. We're going to call it student body right. The entire student body is running to the right side. We're going to block, oj is going to run and it's an unstoppable play. And the reason why I named that chapter student body right with regard to Israel was because they run the same play over and over again. If it's unstoppable, they will run it until somebody proves that they can stop it.

Speaker 12: 1:12:27

I wrote that in the context of calling everybody anti-Semitic and labeling everybody you know the Jewish people as victims, constantly, constantly the victim, and how they prey on your emotions to get you to feel guilty for not you know, I don't know standing with Israel enough, or talking about the Holocaust enough, or whatever it is. Whatever the thing is that they want you to do, they have a tactic that they run over and over again. It's guilt and shame and trying to make people feel like they're anti-Semites if they don't properly support this terrorist regime in the Middle East that's infiltrated the United States government and has affected our foreign policy for the last 60 years. So the tactic when it comes to false flags is the same. I mean, how many times do people need to watch the dancing Israelis on Israeli television? Talk about we were there to document the event. Why were you there to document it? Did you get lucky? Did you get a fortune cookie that told you to go document the event, or were you involved in it? Of course, the answer. We know who was involved in 9-11. We know it wasn't just the Bush administration and those lunatics. They had help.

Speaker 12: 1:13:37

And so when they start talking about wanting to draw us into an unpopular war, just go to the playbook. And the playbook says look for a false flag to be blamed on their enemy, osama bin Laden in the early 90s, whatever to kick off this war in the Middle East. This seven countries in five years, and of course, iran has been on the drawing board forever and the United States and Israel have been looking for an excuse to do it. So you just work backwards. And I think what has changed in the last I don't know, maybe decade or so is that it used to be that the American people by default would think oh, we, the people, don't want war. So therefore, our government doesn't want war. So they're trying to keep us out of this potential war. But things keep happening. We keep getting drawn in. No, no, you don't want war, I don't want war, our government wants war. They want World War III. They're not trying to figure out how to not get in it, they're going to the Patrick Clausen quote.

Speaker 12: 1:14:42

I frankly find it hard to figure out how our president is going to get us to war with Iran. Not get us out of a war with Iran, get us to war with Iran. So we have to change our thinking. We can't export our mentality or our morality onto the government, onto the United States government. That's insane. They don't want the same things we want. We want peace. They want war. No-transcript, this war? Of course not. Have they done that before? No, the Israelis have plenty of times. Have the Iranians? No, they always get blamed for stuff like this. So I just opened my playbook and say what will happen is the Iranians will not conduct a terrorist attack against the United States, but that doesn't mean one won't happen and be blamed on them. The Israelis will, because you know they do that. They talk openly about it. They're the ones that want it. If you were investigating a crime, a murder, and you dragged all these people down to the police station, you would say who has motive and opportunity, who wants this more than any Qui bono? Who benefits?

Speaker 8: 1:16:12

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Speaker 12: 1:18:03

The Israelis. They need this. What would you do if you were Iran? Would you take a big stick and whack the hornet's nest of the United States? Of course not, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. And maybe, tony, maybe it's not something that happens in the US like on our homeland, though I think it may be. What if it's that, just all of a sudden, our military bases that are in Iraq and Syria? What if they just up and blow? What if it's that, just all of a sudden, our military bases that are in Iraq and Syria? What if they just up and blow? What if Diego Garcia gets turned into a parking lot? Then what? Then we're in from a military standpoint.

Speaker 12: 1:18:36

It might not have the general public support for it, but the media will work 24-7. The new mainstream alternative media will be talking about when do we start World War III? Tomorrow, next week, the next month? I mean, there'll never be an off ramp to like let's not do this. So I'm very concerned about the situation that we're in now, because there are state actors out there that actively want this. And then, on top of all, you and I have had plenty of conversations about money, hard money, the economy, fiat, currencies, things like that. Let's also not forget about the impending economic collapse. That needs to be papered over and covered up before it happens. And what better way to do that than to distract everybody on their televisions with war and also give the printing press the justification to go berserk and start printing money to try and paper over this collapse that's coming?

Speaker 4: 1:19:33

I totally agree with you that entire synopsis because we're being led to it and it's kubono. You look at who benefits.

Speaker 4: 1:19:41

It's amazing historically, and not that Iran's a great nation or something that I want to live there, or you know, but if you look how restrained they've been, you go back to our intervention at operation ajax in the early 1950s and the overthrow of mozadeq and installation of the shah and everything else. And it was supposed like at the time there was general george marshall opposed, uh, the recognition of Israel. I think that would drive a wedge between Iran and the West. Even back then that's what the thinking was and it certainly did. But we kept intervening, doing the overthrowing, put in the Shah and that led to the 1979 revolution and really the start of modern day.

Speaker 4: 1:20:24

What you would perceive as islamic radicalism. I mean, that's when you could, but that's shia, but that's the. That's the beginning of, of course, 1979, the same year that we recruit tim osmond, uh, the head of al-qaeda, to uh to kill russians, uh, in afghanistan for us, and that's osama bin laden for those who don't know, and that's so that that's a big radicalization point there. But they call them the, they call Iran the largest exporter of terrorism in the world and I'm watching them get hit preemptively. This is a preemptive strike. This is, you know this, that that is not a just war strategy, that's not coming from a moral superiority, like it's not the saint augustine's just war synopsis. This is something totally different, very third reichish, if you ask me. So no, that that I don't know. The definition of largest exporter of terror in the world is is laughable at this point if you look and see the intervention of both. I mean, what's the latest from assad? Uh, how's qaddafi doing, you know? How's?

Speaker 4: 1:21:30

saddam hussein right now, like all these things, and we gave saddam hussein that you know, the gas to take on and gas use chemical weapons against the iranians in the 1980s. So there's a lot of data there, so they're pretty restrained, as you know, as far as, like, we've been everywhere since then and invading and bombing, and the Israelis too. I mean when has Iran done a preemptive strike on someone else's nuclear facility?

Speaker 12: 1:21:58

Never. It's all, as we rightly recognize. It's all classic projection from the American empire and the Israeli whatever you want to call it terrorist, ethnostate they're the ones doing this. Accuse your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of. This is just classic psychopathy. It's projection. It's every speech Hillary Clinton has ever given. It's frustrating.

Speaker 12: 1:22:29

But what the thing is when, once you learn the language and you decipher how this works, and you, you, you get, you start to formulate your own translation for what, what, when they say something, what it actually means, you know, and, and the toastmasters the thumb on that. You know we've got to start. You watch these things and you go OK, I'm getting neurolinguistic programming here, I'm getting classic psychopathy. I'm getting projection of the utmost degree, I'm getting appeals to authority. I mean, like you could just go done wonderful work recently in taking those speeches and then pointing out the Barnum statements would be the new mockumentary Barnum world, which goes overboard when people you know we're all in this together, we're, you know, you, you watch the speeches and they are. There's two versions. There's the words that are coming out of the person's mouth and then there's like the translation and the translate like if you were the sign language person, the sign language person, would be giving you a much different translation. It's like oh, this lady's crazy. This lady's talking about you know, she's accusing the enemy of things that they're about to do. You know, talking about Iran is about to kick off a terrorism in the West and everything. No, no, okay. So what does that mean? When I hear the Israeli government talking about how Iran is going to kick off terrorism inside America, I've run that through my filter. My translation is oh, we are, we, the Israelis are about to do a false flag in America to drag you into war. Oh, that's, you know that they're our greatest ally. They're our, they're our greatest ally. We'll re-examine that. Run that through your BS detector, please, everybody. Go, go back and look.

Speaker 12: 1:24:21

Let's talk about the Liberty. Let's talk about a variety of things. Let's talk about the King David Hotel. Let's talk about where the. Let's talk about Menachem Begin, one of the founders of the state of Israel, being described by somebody as a international terrorist and he corrects them and says no, I am the godfather of international terrorism, you go. Was he misquoted? No, he felt he was misquoted when he was only called just an international terrorist. He wants to be known as the godfather you go. This is the guy who started your country. This was one of your first prime ministers. This is the guy who set the mood for it. This is a guy who was involved in bombing hotels. He was a guy who was involved in bombing hotels.

Speaker 12: 1:25:12

So you know, excuse me if I don't just get on my knees for our greatest ally, because our greatest ally has been a parasite on this country, has been destroying America from the inside for a very long time, and I think that a segment of the general public is starting to wake up to this. And 9-11 didn't do it because a lot of people couldn't figure out the fingerprints and they got wrapped up into the patriotism and the songs and America and all this stuff that was going on. And we saw what happened to the Dixie chicks and anybody that stood up and said well, I have questions about maybe us going into Iraq, you are anti-American, right, and all that stuff. I don't know if those tactics are going to work this time around. I think a lot of people have seen through this and I think you know I mean it's evidence by my my throwaway tweet that winds up going viral and people are all in agreement. Yes, we see this as a possibility.

Speaker 12: 1:26:09

This isn't crazy conspiracy theory although it is technically a theory, I suppose. But it's not crazy. It's just connecting dots, it's looking at history, it's pattern recognition, it's knowing your enemy, it's knowing your allies, it's knowing a lot of things. And so I wonder, I wonder, if they're going to have the ability with a defunct mainstream media that's lost its touch and has zero credibility, and I wonder if they can really sell another unpopular Middle East war these days, because every you know, the next time Netanyahu starts talking about anything, is this babies in the incubator or is this yellow cake uranium? Because I, I, I I'm getting confused as to which which lie you're telling right now. But I know it's, I know it's a lie. I just I'm not sure if, if uh Rand corporation wrote it for you, or if it was coming out of um. You know some uh hill and nolton thing, a pr firm that's writing this. Which one? Because we're not getting the truth. I think we were aware of that, and um, and and to sit by and cheerlead america into world war three, I think is disgusting and we should want no part in it one 1000%, and, historically, you talk about the difference between this 2001 and now as far as culture, and so there's a gap, there's a vastness of difference between

Speaker 4: 1:27:39

the consciousness and look and there's still I talked about partisanship and stupidity this morning the blending of things Like what happened to the Tea Party movement. I saw what that you know, because originally it was Ron Paul's and it was real and it was substantive and then it turned into, you know, whatever kind of a clown world version, funhouse mirror version of itself. But I do believe that there's a disparity, you know, as far as the….

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Speaker 5: 1:28:55

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Available at pockethostcom slash terms. The knee-jerk support that I saw when I got home from Iraq, my third foreign war. I got home and I was done with the military and like the way that people in North Texas, like the way that they would view the Middle East that's. I don't hear that as much anymore. It's a it's a. It's a disappearing demographic and I think that the power that the Israeli lobby has is and I talked about this yesterday on the show, I think is is waning, I think. I think their high water mark was probably about 11 years ago. Now it's still very powerful and you can see that because nobody wants this war. But yet you've got. Even Trump was supposedly elected by a base of people that don't want Middle Eastern wars or don't want to be. They want to work on this country and anyway he's doing it unilaterally, it looks like, and just because of the powerful interests and powerful lobbies. But that's not as powerful as it once was. I think that it has peaked.

Speaker 4: 1:30:59

I mean, you mentioned something about the fingerprints of 9-11. Well, there's investigations that that may or may not happen. That even you know Tucker Carlson had on, was it Senator Ron Johnson had him on about looking at Building 7 again, you start. If you uncover any of that, you'll find what you just talked about. And you know, back when there was some journalism in this country, brit Youm covered the Dancing Israelis. That was a Fox News clip. They actually who was the other? I forget the other guy's name, but he used to be on Fox News as well they covered it and it was slowly or it was quickly washed away, but they did cover it.

Speaker 4: 1:31:47

Those guys, the Dancing Israelis, spent 70 days in federal prison and were released under the Bush administration. They traded them for something and did something and they released them. And that's when you talked about them being on Israeli television saying that they were there to document the event. Just a little bit of push and we would see that that operation was not what we were told. The official story is ridiculous on its face with everything in it. But you're right. I mean in the playbook over and over again, kubono, who benefits the ties to not only the military industrial complex but the um interest of the Israeli government. I mean Netanyahu said that's you can go look this up. He said nine 11 was was good for Israel. Yeah.

Speaker 12: 1:32:37

And the person who got the dancing Israelis out of of prison was Michael Chertoff, a dual Israeli citizen who gave us the backscatter machines for for the TSA, and all that through his company, so somebody who had advanced knowledge of the event.

Speaker 12: 1:32:52

He was there to document the event as well. So I think with Israel's influence it's two-part. It's their influence over the American government, which has not waned, in my opinion. It's still fully captured, which is the reason why we can rightly see the playbook unfolding here and yet we're in and we can be against war and the public can be against war, but we're still going to get it because that segment is still captured, that the governmental capture by Israel. Now the population, the opinion, the popular opinion, that is definitely going away. That is waning in terms of of Israel's influence.

Speaker 12: 1:33:25

The general public is not blindly supporting these Israeli endeavors. They're starting to ask questions like well, does this help us? Because we've got a lot. It's one thing when you're in a booming economy and everything's fine and you're not worried about 10 million people coming across the southern border or taking your job or AI taking your job or the dollar devaluating and hyperinflating. If you don't have any of those things, you can maybe say, yeah, sure, let's get into some foreign escapade in the Middle East and stay there for a decade. But when you've got problems at home.

Speaker 12: 1:34:00

It's very difficult to sell that. The United States needs to invest trillions of dollars in yet another war, like we had in Afghanistan, where you replace the Taliban 20 years later with the Taliban. So you can't sell that to the American people anymore and get their support for it. You might be able to sell. Put the troops on the southern border For half the country. You'd probably be able to sell that narrative. But put the troops in Egypt and stage them there to fly them into Iran.

Speaker 12: 1:34:37

No, this feels like it's an unsellable. It feels like you would need everything to go right. You'd need the economy to be in good shape. You'd need the media to still have teeth, which they don't. You'd need for there to be some sort of. You'd still need a false flag or some sort of justification that made it scary enough to get the boomers to freak out and support this, which I don't think they do anymore. They're in their RVs, driving around the country, not paying attention, not interested in this any longer, trying to spend all their money so they don't have to give it to their kids when they die. So, filled up with spike proteins and statins, driving around their RVs looking for a KOA on the side of the road somewhere.

Speaker 12: 1:35:14

But I don't think you can get those people to support another war. You certainly can't get the younger demographics they're the ones that are rightly calling out Israel, which I've been pleasantly surprised for that young, that 18 to 28 demographic in that age range there. You ask them their feelings on stuff in the Middle East and they don't want to, if they even know what's going on. They're not interested in foreign excursions, be it China defending Taiwan. We go wait why? We're not interested in that. That's not our fight. Or you want to start another war with Iran. I don't think that you're going to have the support of the people. But, tony, unfortunately I don't know if that's even going to matter, because it's not as though the government is going to go. Oh, we did a poll. It's not as though the government is going to go. Oh, you know, we did a poll. We called 2000 households and we got the poll results back and seems that war is unpopular. So you know, donald Trump, don't start a war because you'll be unpopular, you won't get reelect.

Speaker 12: 1:36:18

Oh wait, you don't have to worry about reelection. Do it anyway. You know people are going to think that you've sold out to Israel. People already think you've sold out to Israel. It doesn't even matter anymore. And of course, we see the Warhawks, the Lindsey Grahams, the Tom Cottons of the world that are enthusiastically.

Speaker 12: 1:36:34

I joked that John Bolton had to consult his physician after the Iran strikes. His blue pills were no longer needed the blue pill. But this is where we go with this, unfortunately. I have to kind of laugh at the absurdity of it all, just to keep from crying, because this is real scary. I have no beef with the Iranian people. Why would I't? They're not bothering me. I'm not bothering them.

Speaker 12: 1:37:08

I don't see the need for a war to start off. And yet here we are in the middle of 2025 and I think that by the end of this year we may see you know, we may. The world may be a very different place and um, and that's a shame, because it doesn't have to be that way and these people are choosing to do this. This is a entirely preventable situation If you had people that wanted to prevent war, but unfortunately I think the mask has been off lately. We've seen these people for who they are. They want this.

Speaker 12: 1:37:45

We knew Lindsey Graham would cheerlead, but it's the other people, the people that were semi-moderate, that are getting on board with this. And then you have to start asking is this what you really want, or are you being controlled? Are you being manipulated from the shadows? Is your APAC handler in your office telling you this is the way it's going to be, or you're going to get primaried and we're going to replace you? I mean, we saw what happened with Cori Bush, and not that I have any love for cory bush, I think she's a lunatic but she came out strongly against israel, got primary. The new guy who's in her place might as well, you know, be brian mass, you know, showing up wearing an idf uniform and an israeli cape for all for all, we care so. So they'll get somebody in there that will support their cause. If you don't, if you're a politician, and you don't if you're Cynthia McKinney or or Thomas Massey, you know they know who you are to try and get you out of there.

Speaker 4: 1:38:37

One of my favorite tweets of all you. You kill it on Twitter. One of my favorite tweets of all time was you on after the October 7th. It just said not dancing today. Not dancing today.

Speaker 4: 1:38:53

Yeah, october 7th. It just said not dancing today. Not dancing today. Yeah, yeah, that IDF uniform by the Congressman. I just I thought, could I, is there any historical reference? And I read a lot about you know congressional history and you know, going back to guys like Sam Rayburn and Lyndon Johnson and things. I was always interested in that. And just you know congressional history, senate history, I can't. I was always interested in that. It is you know congressional history, senate history. I can't think of anything remotely like that. That'd be like you showing up. But I was thinking about what if you were, just you know, show up dressed as a federale. Maybe we'll be a cowboy or you could be a pirate, you know, I mean, that's how.

Speaker 4: 1:39:32

But it's even more dangerous because it's the assumption that this uniform is better. And that's the thing about the Israeli worship that I've always just had such a problem with growing up, and this is the danger that it leads to. It's like everything they do is right, they're better, it's what we're supposed to do. Especially you get the Christian element that unfortunately falls for that. It's so, so sad. The Schofield Bible and other things that point to that, and it's just really it's devastating to watch If you know what we know, just do a little bit of digging and you will find that this is not in our best interest and it certainly wasn't the purpose of the United States or the Constitutional Republic to get involved in any of this kind of stuff and the sacrifices will have to be if this continues to escalate, which is, you know, charlie, if we do airstrikes and there's retaliations on US bases.

Speaker 4: 1:40:29

Have you ever seen the picture of all the bases that surround Iran, like I'm sure you have?

Speaker 12: 1:40:33

Like you know it's like why did?

Speaker 4: 1:40:35

if Iran doesn't want to be attacked, why did they put their country so close to our military bases? You know they're everywhere. They're everywhere, we're all over the place. And if you watch the movie W, this is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea.

Speaker 8: 1:40:47

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Speaker 5: 1:41:34

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Speaker 4: 1:42:36

Stone. I think Josh Brolin plays George W Bush. And then they oh gosh, is it Christian Bale that played? No, it's not him that plays Cheney that time, but it's another cheney. Right, cheney goes on the board.

Speaker 8: 1:42:51

I forget who plays cheney?

Speaker 4: 1:42:52

in the movie, but he, cheney, goes on the big board, you know, and then it's, it's all about iran, like him, that's what there's. That's the whole push of the seven countries in five years. Wesley clark on 9 12 2001, like the that setup this could be. This is like end game and I don't know if they're in some sort of hurry up offense kind of uh system or mode now because of the politics that are going on.

Speaker 4: 1:43:17

It is interesting that you mentioned and I've noticed this too they don't poll anymore. Like the last couple of election cycles, they didn't even talk to people about what was going on in their lives. It was like this is what we're doing, this is the contrast, but then not ever looking at what people actually wanted. So that is interesting. Like we've kind of been a post-political world, like there's. I don't even know why anybody would study political science anymore. Honestly, I mean, I'm not even saying that facetiously, I don't even know. Like what is there a science in between? One of these two things is going to win, because they'll contrast each other, but they have the same think.

Speaker 12: 1:43:56

It was Trump that said something along the lines of they better not attack us or we are not getting directly involved in this war unless we are attacked directly. That was the and for. There's two versions of people reading that comment, for you know, there's two people. There's two versions of people reading that comment. There's the optimistic version is going oh well, as long as the, as long as there's hope, as long as the Iranians don't attack our bases or our Nimitz or whatever that's out there, that that that's a big neon flashing target that says attack us. As long as the Iranians don't do that, we'll be fine. It's like no, no, no what they're saying. That's the setup. That's how you know you're about to get attacked. It's like, well, you know the one thing that'll get us into this war. I hope they don't do the one thing that gets us into this war. And then you look at Iran and Iran's going. We're not going to do that. We know exactly what will happen, and yet it will happen anyway. And it will happen because it will be the Israelis that do it and they will pin it on the Iranians. We've watched this movie. We know how it plays out.

Speaker 12: 1:45:17

If you see an American military base in the Middle East, it'd be in Iraq, bordering Iraq, the disputed regions of Syria, whatever Lebanon. You see one of these bases all of a sudden explode and I don't know. 2000 American troops die, 40,000 American troops die, whatever. They all get hit at the same time. Or the Nimitz that's being positioned in in into the area. That's an old ship set to be decommissioned in a, in a year, and that thing winds up miraculously at the bottom of the sea. It will not be the Iranians, it will be the Israelis doing it as a false flag to draw America in. When America says oh, please don't throw me in the briar patch, and then you're going to get thrown in the briar patch. That's just how it's going to go. This is the signaling that they say, because then Trump can go back and say well, I told them not to do it and then they did it anyway, so I've been given no choice. I mean, we told you what our red line was and they crossed it anyway, because they're crazy and they want us dead and they hate our freedoms and they hate America and they hate us for apple pie and blue jeans and they just want to bullos to run the world. It's like Iran's not bothering me. I don't see Iran interfering in my life at all. I don't see Brian Mast wearing his Iranian uniform. I don't see any of that going on. I see a lot of Israel worship happening. I see a country that is desperate to start World War III, to get us to fight World War III, by the way, not them to fight World War III, but for us, big brother, to come in here and give them the targeting information that they need, the bunker busters that they need to get these facilities in the mountains or drilled into the mountain that Iran has. They need us to do this, and the only way that they can get us in there is if we have a justification for getting in there, and the one justification is if we get attacked. So what do you think is going to happen? We're going to get attacked, and who's going to get blamed for it? Iran. And who's going to be the one doing it? Not Iran, it might even be us, it might even be special forces.

Speaker 12: 1:47:27

I mean, this is what you could the Patrick Clausen interview, or I don't know if it's not an interview, but the Patrick Clausen speech that he gave. Are you familiar with this guy? He's the yeah, the Israeli guy. He, he talks about an Iranian. You know crisis instigation and Iranian sub. Sometimes they go down, sometimes they might not come back up. Who would know why? You know he does the whole thing and you go. Oh my God, they're talking he's not drunk at a bar, talking to his buddies and he don't tell anyone I want to start a war.

Speaker 12: 1:47:57

He's in on a podium with microphone cameras everywhere. He is talking about how they want to start a war with Iran and so when it kicks off, that piece of footage needs to be admitted as evidence. Everyone needs to watch that and go. This is what you're working against. This isn't. You could do all that. You could say all the nice things to Iran, say we're not going to attack, it doesn't matter, the Israelis are going to do it and pin it on them. We know this because they talk openly about how they're going to do it. We know this because they talk openly about how they're going to do it.

Speaker 12: 1:48:31

So again, like if I were, if if I committed a crime and I'm in, the, pull up a video of me from a week earlier or a year earlier explaining how I could commit a crime and this is exactly how I would do it, and then a crime gets committed exactly like that, and I'm a. Wouldn't you pull that evidence, that video, up and go? Well, here's, here's you talking about it. You're, you're, you're basically plotting it. This is premeditated.

Speaker 12: 1:48:56

So when this kicks off and I and unfortunately, I think it will, because I think, I think Netanyahu and his team are backed into a corner and I don't think they can stop without all going to prison or worse Uh, so I think that this, that this has been decided, I think they got their guy in office, trump, who is either ideologically captured, he's captured from blackmail. I don't know. I don't know how much they need. No one says, oh, I bet they got the goods on Trump. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I don't know how much they need to have the goods on Trump. I think he wants this. I think he's on this team.

Speaker 12: 1:49:28

So I'm worried for humanity. As in any war, I fear for the public, who has no power in this. They're just on the receiving end the people in Iran, the people in Israel, who don't want this war, who are held captive by their own government in the same way we are by ours, and I know there's a segment of the Israeli population that are, you know, throwing their hands up saying we're not in this either. You know much. In the same way, you say this when the Middle East accuses Americans. You and your government are involved in this. No, no, I'm not involved in this at all. I don't want this war. I don't want war. Our government does. Let's separate governments from the people. But I just worry for the people because we're always the ones that pay the price, because Lindsey Graham's not getting a helmet and a parachute put on, no matter how much we fantasize about that outcome.

Speaker 12: 1:50:23

It would be fantastic if it happened, but until it happens, we will be guided into these bloody wars by chicken hawk politicians that have no skin in the game, like Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham is a homosexual man with no kids. He has no stake in the game. That's why a lot of the people the Alex Carps and Peter Thiel's and Harari's of the world they're all homosexual men with no children. I think that matters. I think it matters if you have skin in the game for the next generation. If you don't and you're plotting dystopian wars or autonomous drones that are murdering people, or AI running the next theater of war, I think you need to have kids. I think it matters. I think you need to have a bloodline to protect, because if you don't and I'm starting to notice a pattern with a lot of people in positions of power here I think when you don't, it changes your decision making process.

Speaker 4: 1:51:23

I agree with that. You look at that certain set, that's a huge portion of intelligence and military industrial complex operators, from intelligence to direct military. That is a big portion. Yeah, and you're right, and the mindset is not about the future, it's about now. It's hard to imagine being that person who wants any of this right now. I mean just stepping back and logically looking at I got a text from my dad. Uh, right when it kicked off by the way, kicked off on Friday the 13th. Anybody else notice that? Where's all my symbology people? I mean that's uh, friday the 13th, guys, I haven't seen you guys yet. Uh, I noticed it right off the bat. It was Friday the 13th and my dad texted me and said and he was very thoughtful and has been around so he understands business cycles he's like this is going to be really bad for most businesses. He said it may be good for yours and I thought about that. I don't know that it would be, but if it is I would rather not have it. I would rather just work on the future. I'd rather just build something and be creative.

Speaker 4: 1:52:33

Who is sitting around? You've got to think about the type of person. And it does make you when you start thinking about. You're going to disrupt all these lives around the world and the consequences could be catastrophic. Because you're playing with fire and you know it Like. This is just criminality, it's pure evil, because it has nothing to do with keeping people safe. Actually, it's the opposite. It's about just the ritual of war itself, and that's what's so heinous and unforgivable about any of this stuff. And then there's no turning back at this point, like if this is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea.

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Speaker 4: 1:54:59

You know we go through with this and I want to get your opinion on what. Where goes alternative media at this point? Where goes the whole? You you know, because this will break every promise. If this is the, if this is the case and we go headlong into this thing and it may be the unintended well, you know, you talked about false flags but there will be something that happens if we continue. There will be a catalyst for it. Where do we go? Because the world's going to change, america's going to change, there's going to be a whole host of changes. I think that politically, culturally, it'll have a profound effect. But I think one of the first places you'll see it is alternative media. I know there's a big portion of alternative media that's controlled in some way because of sponsors or whatever. There's analysis that can be made on that, but this is a big chunk of it is all turning to me. Trump's the peacemaker. Trump did this and that, and this is taking down the deep state. That kind of just destroys all of that overnight, doesn't it?

Speaker 12: 1:56:01

I would hope so. I would hope that people I mean but there is a segment that I think will be. They're ideologically captured on the red team and the blue team. You're never going to wake them up. They're going to be MAGA forever or they're going to be Build Back Better Biden people. That's just where they are and you don't really worry about them because you can't reach a segment. It's the free agents in the middle that I'm looking for.

Speaker 12: 1:56:27

I think alternative media has a real opportunity here, actually the actual alternative media, not the mainstream alternative media that David Icke has talked about. We recognize that the corporate press is dead. Msnbc's ratings are down 57%, cnn's down almost 50%. Comcast Dave Zaslow has been trying to sell MSNBC. There's no takers. They had to put it in a different investment vehicle. It's called SpinCo. They moved it in there so that it would be off their books, so that their stock price wasn't hammered by it. It's a tax write-off for them. They're going to write off MSNBC for nothing, by the way. A reminder that the MS and MSNBC stands for Microsoft. So when you hear anything about pro-vaccines and all this and pro-eugenics, the Gates Foundation fingerprints are all over that and the reason why he never got bad publicity. So those companies MSNBC, cnn they're dead. Those companies MSNBC, cnn they're dead. There's no appetite for them. And sort of especially side note, if RFK Jr does sign the legislation to ban the mainstream media or to ban pharmaceuticals from advertising on mainstream media, which he has considered doing, the United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow direct-to-consumer advertising from the pharmaceutical industry. If they get rid of that, there goes 60% of the ad revenue for mainstream media news as well. So that would just cut off the lifeblood to them. So they're either dead or in some sort of zombie state right now.

Speaker 12: 1:58:07

The next tier, the tier that they've been planning for, is now what David Icke has called the mainstream alternative media. This is the Daily Wires of the world. Tim Pool's, all this group, anybody who's had a picture taken with Netanyahu all right, that's Jim Hoff, joe Hoff, gateway Pundit guys that get those pictures, breitbart sitting around a table with Netanyahu back in early 2000s all those guys. You can see that influence there. So it's the next level down. It's oh, I'm not with the CIA anymore, sean Ryan. I just have this great studio and I'm against the CIA, but I fly in all these people and we talk about all these interesting narratives and we're definitely not spooks or anything like that.

Speaker 12: 1:58:48

So there's the podcasting world that's getting infiltrated, which we knew would happen. Actually, we sort of thought either it was going to happen that way or they would just throw us off, which may happen eventually. But so it's the new version. I'm not turning on my TV to get the news anymore, I'm turning on my computer. So it's not the mainstream media anymore, it's something else. Well, but is it something else? Because it feels very much like a new version of the mainstream media, allowing the dialogue and discussion to happen within the accepted parameters, not allowing anybody outside of that to talk about real things and to have these sort of fake fights in there.

Speaker 12: 1:59:27

Then there's us. Then there's the actual alternative media, and I say that we have a big opportunity here, because there are a lot of people that are, I consider to be, media, information, news free agents. They're looking for information. They know that the corporate media is compromised. They don't trust them anymore, be that after COVID or after Joe Biden is healthy, or Kamala's filled with joy, or whatever it is, they just watch this and they go.

Speaker 12: 1:59:57

None of this is true. You guys are just liars. I need information, and I don't know where to get it, and I don't need to be told how to feel, because I can make up my mind on how to feel. I just need to give me the information and I'll decide how I'm going to interpret this, and that is a huge opportunity for us. It's part of the reason why the activist post purchase, for me, was timely, because I felt like this is going to be a pivotal platform. It's going to be a place that I know I can send people, all of us can go to get information, to get news articles that you're not going to see anywhere else, articles about things that are 18 months early before they're.

Speaker 12: 2:00:43

You know, we'll talk about them at the dangerous time. It's one thing when Tucker Carlson's like you know, I have questions about these vaccines in 2025. You go, yeah, well, where were you in 2021 when we were doing it and we were getting deplatformed and all of this stuff? So, so some of it is the information that you put out. But, tony, another part is the timing of which the information is put out. Are you putting it out when it matters most? Are you putting it out when it's dangerous? Are you talking about this stuff when you're in the heart of it, right in the middle of all the insanity. You're calling out masks, you're calling out vaccines and doing a lot, because we were doing that and we can show our track record of starting that up early in 2020, as soon as the COVID kicked out.

Speaker 12: 2:01:22

So for these alternative media platforms, we're going to have an opportunity to grab these people to say come over here, I'll give you the news. You figure it out yourself. You figure out how you feel. If it does make you angry, to make you support one side or the other, that's your decision. You go off and internalize that on your own. We're going to give you the information.

Speaker 12: 2:01:45

I don't have. I mean as far as activist post goes, I don't have. I didn't borrow money to buy it. I bought it with an all Bitcoin transaction. So I have no, nobody standing above my shoulder saying don't write, don't put that story out, don't do that, don't let that person's article get published, censor this. None of that. There's no censoring. If there's any censoring, it'd be me and I'm not going to do that. So I take the articles and republish them the way that the writers intended and so that information goes out there essentially unfiltered, and that's going to be a huge opportunity for people who are just trying to get their bearings.

Speaker 12: 2:02:22

So if there's somebody in your life who you can kind of reach and you want to do it in a way that isn't you sitting them down and I'm going to let me tell you, let me lecture you about what's going on in the middle East, that doesn't work. Your friends won't, won't like that. There'll be, you know they'll, they'll, they'll fight that. But if you're able to say, hey, send here's an article, check this out. What do you think, what do you make of this? Hey, look, have you heard anything about this before? Check out this article about what's going on with Bitcoin or what's going on in here we go, what's happening in Africa or what's going on with your health.

Speaker 12: 2:02:57

So we've got a nice wide variety here of topics and categories that people can tap into. There's always something going on over there. You'll find I added podcasts as well and, most importantly, there's a solution section too. So if you find that all this information is overwhelming and you want to do something about it, but you're not really sure where to start, go to the solution section. You can read through a bunch of articles there, you can get my free book, so I think that this could wind up being the golden age for the alternative media.

Speaker 12: 2:03:34

I mean, I know that there'll be a lot of infiltration. There'll be a lot of people that you're going to have to keep your head on a swivel to make sure people aren't getting paid off, that the person that you'd been following all this time isn't taking pictures with Benjamin Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago or wherever. Uh, but you, you you've got to, you know. But once you sift through you, I think it's. I think it's a great opportunity for us to uh, to reach a segment of the of of the world out there who's just looking for information, doesn't need the, doesn't need the bias and we learned a lot from 2020 21, didn didn't we?

Speaker 4: 2:04:08

Those of us who were out just way out front talking about you know the medical tyranny people like David Knight I mean, just before anyone else calling it the lockdowns and what was of how my opinions changed and what I was trying to discern from it and you have shows like that. It's such an honor to host for David and you know, and then meeting you and other people like Billy Ray Valentine and Don Jeffries and others, we just kind of been out in front of a lot of things. And then you know, years later you'll have these same these now, these podcasts that are huge everywhere that weren't weren't around. They're like, hey, have you heard about bill gates getting farmland?

Speaker 4: 2:04:55

I'm like that was the story we were covering, that you know, five years ago, what? What is it with you guys? And there's like they tiptoe into stuff in territory. That's already been like we already laid on the barbed wire and said, you know, run over our back, you come on, you know this is, and then these guys kind of just waltz in. So that is a portion of it. I think you're absolutely correct. And then I love it that you've done this with activist posts and you and I've been talking.

Speaker 8: 2:05:21

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Speaker 4: 2:06:42

You know you shared this with me a while ago, so I'm so cool to watch this be put together because I know you and I know your heart and who you are and why you do what you do and your passion for it and the consistency. And I love this because this is coming from a place where I know I can. If I go here, I know that all the intention was for me to try to figure out what's going on. It's just like yesterday, charlie, it's such a teachable moment. Like you have the headline of drudge, for the minnesota shooter was the maga maniac and then you go over to zero hedge and he's the uh, no, kings killer. It's literally two separate things at the same time and I'm like, well, let's figure out what this even means. And somewhere in the middle is the truth. Probably, um, but not I mean this extremes of like something that drudge does now with whatever it is, and then you just can't trust it all that. You're exactly right. People just want to. Can you just tell me what's going on without lecturing me? I just want to know what's the intelligence? Let me make a decision and I think what's the intelligence? Let me make a decision, and I think that's what you know.

Speaker 4: 2:07:52

The the basis for something like your activist post is is like let's get the best Intel. I want to make better. That's the reason I do what I do, like whether my show is, you know, it's parapolitics and it's I do precious metals analysis and I do Bitcoin and do that macro economic stuff, big picture. That's what I like to do, and I do it to try to figure out myself what's next, because I can't control the political environment. It's like I've been. I think at this point we're a lot like meteorologists, like hey, here's a tornado. You know this is it's going to probably strike here. I can't like make the tornado go away, you know, and I try to. I try to use that analysis Like I. Just the best thing I can do is tell you what I believe is next and you can make those decisions whatever you want to react to that yourself. And so I love this.

Speaker 12: 2:08:44

Could you imagine someone coming out and screaming at you though how dare you talk about the tornadoes? You know what I mean. We have to support, we have to support. And you just go. I'm just giving you the news, I'm just giving you the information and you deal with it however you want, but there's always going to be the anti-tornado crowd out there. You know that.

Speaker 4: 2:09:06

It doesn't matter, you see it coming, you call it that, it's like it doesn't matter, you see it coming, you call it you everybody can clearly see it, but if you point it out you, you clearly hate weather and you are a tornado on their way.

Speaker 12: 2:09:20

I think that's also. I think that's also sort of essential for this too, we have to have a sense of humor. I know I don't mean this to be disrespectful. I mean I know when we're talking about World War III there's nothing funny about it, but you do have to get yourself to a position where you can laugh at the absurdity of it all. I think it helps you process it and I think that for the general public, the normies out there, as Corbett calls them you've got to ease them into this information. You cannot drop building seven on them on day one. It's too much.

Speaker 12: 2:09:53

You sort of have to start the process of for those in our lives, our orbits, who are near to us and we want to talk, we want to have these conversations because, much in the same way we're warning about the tornadoes, we want to warn our friends and family like hey, this is what we see. But you've got to do that in a very careful way and I've done it every wrong way you can do it, including bringing up 9-11 at Thanksgiving dinner, which I don't recommend, or sitting somebody down and saying now let me tell you what's going on and just opening up like an information fire hose. Nobody wants that. But I'll tell you. If you can get your family members or friends who you want to connect with to engage with you on these topics, start asking them some questions hey, what do you make of this? Or send them an article from activist post and say, hey, what do you make of this? You know, look at this, read this article. This is this seems crazy, what do you think about it? Because a lot of the times, what I've noticed in these situations is that the person who I'm trying to connect with and I asked that question, they've never really thought about it, they've never really verbalized it, they've never worked it out, if they've even thought about it at all. But you get them talking. What do you? You know?

Speaker 12: 2:11:02

I remember I had this conversation with a buddy of mine and I, who was a good friend. I asked him what do you make of the? Who was a good friend? I asked him what do you make of the statistics of the flu? Like this was 20, 38 million cases of the flu in 2018, 38 million cases in 2019, zero cases in 2020. But then the flu just went away.

Speaker 12: 2:11:25

I go. What do you attribute that to? He goes I don't know masks. I go. Really, why couldn't we do that? And so I'm sort of probing to get his level of knowledge on this. Don't you find this a little interesting that the numbers are so wonky on this and every now and then you're well, yeah, it is kind of weird. I never thought about that or I never saw that, or they're working off of different source material than we are.

Speaker 12: 2:11:45

We're used to this information. We're used to the CDC being liars. We're used to the White House and State Department telling us that everything's fine when it's not. But a lot of our friends, they have their heads down, they're in their nine to five jobs, they're going to work every day and they haven't really thought about this. So your boomer uncle that you want to connect with, you've got to make it a dialogue, not a monologue, right, you've got to get that open, that line of communication, and get them to start talking about what it is.

Speaker 12: 2:12:14

But it's because it's an important time to reach people, and you can do it the wrong way, but you can also do it the strategic way, the right way, and that is to to have the conversations, and you'll get a lot of information from it. You'll, you'll, you'll find out where their level is. You're like, what's, what's this guy's baseline level? Are you understanding where I'm coming from with this question, or are you just completely out of it? And and and, and.

Speaker 12: 2:12:41

You'll find from time to time there's some people you can work on and there's some people that go oh, we, I know all about this. False flags come and you go oh, my God, I didn't think you. I thought you were going to dismiss me as being crazy Like, no, no, I know what's happening. So every now and then you'll find that somebody in your orbit is a closeted, you know conspiracy theorist and you and you get them talking a little bit. You pull them aside at Thanksgiving dinner and they're like oh, I know exactly what's happening here. And you go okay, you're one of us. So start that process of having conversations with people in your orbit, people that you think you can reach. And because we're going to need this, we are going to lose the information war if we're not careful and we're going to get everybody thinking that World War III isn't just a must, it's that we should have done it sooner, that we should have started it years ago, or we should have taken out Iran when we had the chance, you know, 10 years ago or whatever. It is no, no, no. We've got to have these conversations now because, because the time is.

Speaker 12: 2:13:39

I feel like the time is running out for those of us who see what's happening here Like we are sprinting into a third world war.

Speaker 12: 2:13:46

And boy, once that starts, all the models are incomplete. You just don't know where everything's going to go. And everything is impacted the economy, travel, small business, big business, currency, valuations everything is connected. And oil, god. They shut off the Strait of Hormuz. 20 to 30% of the world's oil and natural gas is coming through there. They turn that off all of a sudden and oil goes from whatever it is now 65 a barrel or whatever to 165 overnight. You think that's not going to impact your little small town shop, it's going to impact everybody. So all of this matters and it's all connected in this. And, for those of us paying attention, it's our duty and obligation to try to wake up those in our orbit that we think are able to be awake. But I'll tell you what, tony, I put a quote in my octopus book a Navajo proverb. It says you cannot wake a person who is pretending to be asleep, and unfortunately, I fear that there are a lot of people in this world who are pretending to be asleep right now, and that is dangerous.

Speaker 4: 2:15:03

I think it's a excellent and chilling summation, my friend, that's where we are and our job. And chilling summation, my friend, that's where we are and our job. Really, I think trying to talk with people and not at them, and the Socratic method, like you mentioned. It takes more time but it's more effective than just yelling at somebody, and we didn't really recover after COVID-19. I fly around, I travel for business, I show up places. I think this is not the same world and it's not that far away from the world before, but as far as timeline, so something happened. It's traumatic and that's what. If this is allowed to happen, and I think you and I agree that the trains left the station for a world war. It's what it looks like to us.

Speaker 4: 2:15:50

Unfortunately, I think it will change a lot of things, and so we have to, even, we have to double and triple down to our commitment to, to analysis and history, for the sake of history, for history's sake, to get this right, cause you're absolutely I mean correct on think of the revisionist history that you get world war ii. You know, like people, that that's the good war, you know, and if you really break it down, it doesn't make any sense. But, um, people build their entire careers off of these silly narratives and things that that aren't correct. That's absolutely off the mark and it's going to cost you more lives like the. The takeaway from world war ii was like War II was you can't have any sort of negotiation. It's appeasement, peace in our time and Neville Chamberlain and all that stuff, and people forget it was England that declared war on Germany, not the other way around.

Speaker 12: 2:16:43

Stuff like that.

Speaker 12: 2:16:44

Yeah, it pays to know what the established history narrative is. It pays to know what the established history narrative is, and then you've got to unlearn that and then relearn a different version, the true version of history. That was something I was unprepared for. Once. I left my schooling, my compulsory schooling, and got out into the real world. What I found was that so much of what I thought I had known about the history of, of, of of our world, has been, um, has been a lie. And, as they say, history is written by the victors and it's written for a variety of reasons. And and let's not allow ourselves to get seduced into a third world war, a good war, you know, the final war, yeah, it might be the final war. That's the problem. So I think it's a head on a swivel. Pay attention to what's coming. If we get ourselves in a scenario where there is a false flag event, make sure to connect with people close to you, saying this is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea.

Speaker 8: 2:17:43

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Speaker 12: 2:19:01

You know, let's not be so quick to believe the official narrative. Let's examine a little further. This is how they do these things.

Speaker 4: 2:19:10

Well, tell us what's next on macroaggressions on your podcast and tell people where they can find you.

Speaker 12: 2:19:16

Well, the Wednesday's episode I had to re-record. I recorded it three weeks ago. I try and get some of my podcast episodes done in advance, so I have block out some time so that I can write, because it's tough to do both at the same time. I want to really kind of get in writing mode for a new book I'm working on, so I recorded this, this episode, and I had to rerecord it because between the time I did it and and now I was talking about the Summer of Love 2025 revisited I was saying expect chaos in the streets, expect something to kick it off. Well, and then we got the Los Angeles thing. So I had to go back in. I had to rerecord the episode to make it a little bit more up to the times, because I predicted something that was going to happen. It wound up happening before the episode went out, so you can catch Macroaggressions wherever podcasts are served. We do two a week. One on Wednesday is a monologue, on Sundays it's interviews. We have Steve Poikinen on right now promoting Third Eye Carnival in Pueblo Colorado. The weekend of 4th of July, if you're going to be in the area of Pueblo Colorado, we're having something called Third Eye Carnival. Again. This will be the third year in a row at the Blowback Art Gallery. It's a great weekend show. We've got bands playing. We at the Blowback Art Gallery it's a great weekend show. We've got bands playing. We've got live podcasts going on. You'll love it. It's a fantastic place.

Speaker 12: 2:20:32

If you want to connect with me, macroaggressionsio is the website to do that and, of course, activist Post. Activist Post bookmark it. We didn't make an app for your phone because we didn't want to centralize control into the hands of Google and Apple in their app stores, because we saw what happened with zero hedge. So so you're going to have to just pull it up on a browser on your phone, but I promise it'll fly. It works really well. We rebuilt the whole website, launched it in January. So, uh, activistpostcom is a place to do that. Thanks, tony, for having me back. I always appreciate our our conversations.

Speaker 4: 2:21:03

I do too, brother. It's always a pleasure. Charlie and I were texting and just didn't even mention what we're going to talk about. I'll see you tomorrow, I'll see you tomorrow. I'll see you tomorrow. I'll see you.

Speaker 12: 2:21:15

Tuesday See you next Tuesday.

Speaker 4: 2:21:19

Just popped in and we can have these kind of talks. I love your mind and appreciate all your work. Let's stay in touch.

Speaker 4: 2:21:26

I'll see you soon, all right. Well, folks, we're still live. Got one hour left here on the David Knight show. Probably so much fun, makes radio easy, makes podcasting easy. Always got so much to talk about and references. If you haven't, I highly recommend all of his books, but the Octopus of Global Control very well done and one of the things that will blow your mind if you get the Octopus of Global Control and I need to have Charlie back on just to do a whole show about it was the Boston bombing. It's the one that happened in 2013 or so.

Speaker 4: 2:22:05

Got to check that out. There's some interesting, highly interesting tidbits in there. All right, as I promised, if you go to my YouTube, if you go to at Tony Harderburn and subscribe I don't know how long they'll let me run it there, but it's fun. I just I didn't know that there wasn't one under my name, so I grabbed it and I generally will do a live show, my radio shows there. I might do america unplugged there, but if you want to join that and join the chat this is kind of an ask me anything, we'll open it up. You want to talk about gold, silver, bitcoin, geopolitics, history, anything? Uh, you can throw that in the last hour. I thought that would be fun.

Speaker 4: 2:22:47

Uh, here for the last hour. I'm going to host for a while. I don't know when I'll be back, hopefully sooner than later. It's been too long since I went the last time, but always a pleasure. So if you want to hit that, anything that, let me go, and I'll have to go back and forth between.

Speaker 4: 2:23:02

So, whatever, for whatever reason, rumble today, when I go back and forth between it, it plays the show. Today, when I go back and forth between it, it plays the show. Like, I have to like stop the audio. So if you're on rumble, um, you want to send some comments and you certainly can, and I'll check that. Uh, let me see what's going on on rumble. Um, what a great segment to love. Having Charlie on wakes my brain up in the second hour. Uh, let's see. Still just waiting on some. I'll wait on some comments. You guys, anything on rumble, anything you want to as, uh, cecilia 14, where is that show? Y'all should talk about the las vegas shooting. Yes, we should. Um, I don't have that show. I don't. We haven't done it yet. I need to do a show on, uh, the boston bombing, but in in charlie's book the octopus of Control. He writes about that. It's very well done.

Speaker 8: 2:24:11

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Speaker 11: 2:25:01

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Speaker 4: 2:25:32

Let's see All right, In between questions I will go and check out this last article I had up over on luterockwellcom.

Speaker 4: 2:25:45

We've got a couple more things we can cover, but as you can see my wheelhouse, I just feel like every problem's a nail and I've got a couple more things we can cover. But, as you can see my wheelhouse, I feel like every problem's a nail and I've got a hammer. But it's the most important stuff War and the financial system these are the macro things, what's most changing in our world and the politics of it. It's hard to get excited about politics anymore and when I was a kid it fascinated me and I remember being eight years old and I tell this story, I've told it many times, but being eight years old watching the vice presidential debates between Lloyd Benson and Dan.

Speaker 4: 2:26:23

Quayle, now Lloyd Benson, was a Texas Democrat senator. He was the vice presidential candidate running in 1988 with Michael Dukakis and against George HW Bush, you know, said something about John F Kennedy and Lloyd Benson said I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine, senator. You know Jack Kennedy. I watched that. Eight years old I was interested in politics. I'm not really interested anymore, mainly because of what Charlie said, where the majority of people they don't even poll. Do they even poll for anything anymore? Like if you're studying political science, why, like, what is the science behind it? It's just demographics now. And it's sad because there should be you know. The only way to have you know any sort of real discourse would be to have you know a political movement to mean something. I don't see that really making a difference and this is lewrockwellcom.

Speaker 4: 2:27:35

If it's to be war with Iran, let it be the war that nobody comes to. This is by Caitlin Johnston. Let's make this clear If the US bombs Iran, iran will kill US military personnel in response. If this happens, it will not be Iran's fault that those military personnel died. It will be Trump's fault. It will be the fault of everyone whose decisions led to the attack which resulted in their deaths, and they will have died for nothing. Anyone who dies in a war with Iran will have died for nothing. They will not have died fighting for anyone's freedom. They will not have died protecting their country. The warmongers and propagandists will try to spend their deaths in this way, but they will be lying. The bereaved parents and partners of those who die will also try to frame their deaths in this way, but they will only be fooling themselves because the truth will be too painful to bear.

Speaker 4: 2:28:37

I quoted that article that I wrote 10 years after the war in iraq, the first article I ever had published and I quoted the philosopher nietzsche, who said that most of us rarely have the courage for what we already know. You already know that it's bad. You're trying to frame things and it is sad. As a combat veteran, because I sympathize so much with people that I've served with, they have to frame it in a way and that's fine, you know, do what you need to do, but that is the truth. Like anything that happens from this point on, you'll die for nothing, unfortunately, because it has nothing to do with American security or American prosperity, or the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, or your family's safety. As a matter of fact, it makes it worse, ironically and sad, sadly, tragically and the truth is is that everyone who dies in such a war will have died because a few powerful people made some extremely evil decisions out of their own self-interest and for no other reason.

Speaker 4: 2:29:51

She goes on to say do not join the US military, do not join the militaries of any nation which normally participates in America's wars. If you are in those militaries, you should get out by any means necessary, as quickly as possible. If, further on down the track, there is a draft for a war with Iran, you should dodge the draft. You should absolutely do that, because I'm going to remind you of the genesis of what just happened. See, they'll be swept under the rug, right? Gore Vidal called this the United States of amnesia, but he was an old, he was the gay, pat Buchanan if you will but he was very much an old republic stylist of anti-war.

Speaker 4: 2:30:38

He's anti-war left. Which where are you guys? It's like there's more Bigfoot sightings and literally more actual footage of UFOs than the anti-war left. I haven't seen you guys in forever because you got the spirit of the Jacobin. You got that operator speak. I know you guys now and it's funny because I talked about that yesterday with the no kings protests and stuff. They have the spirit of the revolutionary. They don't have the spirit of the anti-war.

Speaker 4: 2:31:08

They don't have the same liberal mindset. Going back to Howard Zinn, who wrote the People's History of the United States, howard Zinn was a thoughtful man. I mean you can't agree with everything he said, but as a left-winger, who speaks for the left anymore? Howard Zinn, he was the first bombers in World War II winger, like one of the who speaks for the left anymore, it's like howard zinn uh was one of. He was the first uh bombers in world war ii. That was the end of the war. They'd already won, but he, his squadron, carried out dropping the first jellied gasoline on people and it was also known as uh became known as napalm during the vietnam war and that so affected him and like he went home and became a history professor and but yeah, that's you know. He wrote against uh government overreach and uh, you know, war the, the national security state. They don't do that anymore. On the left. I don't know what the left actually is anymore. It's like a death cult. But the right's not helping itself either. They're stuck in the middle somewhere between these two clowns.

Speaker 4: 2:32:18

If you fight in such a war, you'll be fighting for nothing. If you die in such a war, you will die for nothing If you lose your limbs in such a war, you will lose your limbs for nothing. If you suffer permanent brain damage in such a war, you will lose your mind for nothing. Even if you manage to survive such a war your body and brain intact, you will live the rest of your life with the knowledge that you kill human beings for nothing, that you kill human beings for nothing. Read this on Fox News.

Speaker 4: 2:32:56

You know, giddy one of the disgusting things and you talk to people like Charlie and I try to be as thoughtful as I can. I don't want clicks and I don't really care about followers or anything, so I'm fine. So I just do the best analysis that I can on my shows, just for me, like this is literally like a support group, like I do this for myself and I do this for you and I do this for I mean. It's like I try to give back. It's symbiotic. But every once in a while you think about it, like I just talked with Charlie about, and how psychotic you have to be to be ramping this up right now.

Speaker 4: 2:33:32

Like what kind of sick, sick person would be wanting to throw us into some no-win, unconstitutional war for the state of Israel. That's what it is. Israel attacked Iran and, by the way, even if they didn't, it has nothing to do with American security. We let people every day walk across, waltz over the border, trafficking children and drugs and whatever. I mean not that I care about drugs, but I care about American security. I care about what the criminality on the side, I care about the ecological damage that's happened on the southern. I care about my country. I care about the rule of law. What are we doing all this for?

Speaker 4: 2:34:18

That just happens, but we're going to do something about over there which is infuriating, and the mere fact that you have so many in high levels that have weaseled their way up there they get to pull these levers against the wishes of the majority of American people is an affront to my sense. You know, veteran cemeteries are packed full of people that thought they were defending the Constitution Some of them are people that I miss every single day and they believed in something, and then these people just throw us into it's unforgivable.

Speaker 4: 2:35:03

It really is and there will be consequences Like this is the. When you throw this into the matrix of things like there's a ripple effect and it will have unintended consequences. But it's good that we have the origin story. I'm paying attention, I am awake for this one. I'm awake. I know exactly same as what Charlie's saying with the Nimitz. You know same thing that happened to the USS Liberty. It doesn't have to have the same kind of thing. History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. I am awake for this one.

Speaker 8: 2:35:37

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Speaker 4: 2:36:29

Optimum store today term supply see optimumcom for details. So there's a stanza from carl sandberg's the people. Yes, which is the. This is which has been bubbling around in my consciousness a lot lately.

Speaker 4: 2:36:43

the little girl saw her first troop parade and asked what are those soldiers? What are soldiers? They are soldiers. They are for war. They fight. Each. They fight. Each tries to kill as many of the other side as he can. The girl held still and studied Do you know? I know something? Yes, what is it? You know, sometime they'll give a war and nobody will come. Yeah, that's always been the question. What if they threw a war and then none of us showed up?

Speaker 4: 2:37:23

If the US directly attacks Iran and it's looking increasingly likely that it will Iran can be expected to kill as many US soldiers with powerful attacks on US military bases that were within striking range of its missiles. If that happens, the US can be expected to launch a full-scale regime change war on Iran. If that's to be, then let this be the war that nobody comes to, because the alternative is to fight and die in a stupid war waged by evil people for nothing. And if you say now I know who's on the Epstein client list, anybody who supports this in public office or that has influence, there's your de facto Epstein client list. Because nobody, no rational human being, nobody who knows anything about history, would support this and you will see your favorite politicians and like all your heroes.

Speaker 4: 2:38:19

This is like I'm from being from Texas. It's exhausting sometimes because we have the worst people like the worst politicians. They have the best people but the worst. It doesn't reflect texas like I just meet the people that would you know farmers and ranchers and small business owners and hard-working people, and it's like you meet and then you see the politicians and you're all right. Well, that's caitlin johnston ladies and gents, excellent piece.

Speaker 4: 2:39:02

I'm gonna let's see if you guys got any. We're still gonna make. Uh, still want to do the ama. We're still going to make. Still want to do the AMA. Twisted Communicate said make Tony's bookshelf great again, did it? Am I in decline? I keep pulling books off of it and it's. My studio needs a facelift. Melissa set this up for me in 2020 and.

Speaker 4: 2:39:26

I have. I'm not maintained it well, and then I've got. You should see the, the. If you could see the front of what I'm looking. And that's like all this equipment that doesn't work. I'm running everything off of running everything off of a laptop. A twist to communicate. Tony bookshelf does not receive Israeli money. This is great. Anything you guys want to talk about on the chat, you go to the Rumble chat. That's probably the best place to go. If you got anything you want to ask me you want to put in the chat, I'll talk about it. Uh, wise wolf gold represent love. That silver, but brit one tenth out you sent me last year, brother. Oh, appreciate you, that's truth. Speaker 1977, gar goldsmith says I can't wait for char Charlie's new book. Octopus was fantastic.

Speaker 4: 2:40:31

Wasn't it though that's such a great book. Uh, it's one of those books like when you're in alternative media, that when you need to kind of like reframe your mind, like right now I need to kind of go back to the catacombs, go back to source and start re reading some, some of those, those works like charlie robinson and don jeffries and david ike and things carl goldsmith said. Uh, oh yeah, uh, tony junebug, governor, else the bookshelf doesn't have war as a racket on display. It used to, and I don't know, maybe it's, but I've gotten it off before and I can pulled it and read from it. And that's you guys. My life can be chaotic sometimes. Garden says one more book will fit on tony's bookshelf charlie's next yeah, one more, just one more.

Speaker 4: 2:41:28

I have a question, tony gold, is that a green screen, bro, like me on a green? No, this is just my bookshelf, this is just me. Um, I have a green screen in texas. I sometimes use the uh backdrop to uh war games, though, of norad. Uh, that's, that's fun.

Speaker 4: 2:41:53

Tony, how is ai impacting the gold and silver space? Oh that I read an article about that uh last week on my show and it's going to increase the price of commodities because it again like the fiat system falling apart and I think commodities will go up. But that. But it's also the robotics and other things that the industries that will be produced by AI, machines and other things, supposedly is going to drive the price of everything up. There's, you guys got an active chat.

Speaker 4: 2:42:34

Oh, boogeyman ketchup says Tony, do you still do heavy squats? No, I do squats, I do. This is a fun question. I do deadlifts. Yesterday I did deadlifts. My hip flexors are so sore. I've been working on that. But no, I do. Like the Hatfield squats where you got the weight kind of the more positioned out front. I'll do front squats. I don't do them heavy anymore. I could, but it's just not conducive to anything. We can go.

Speaker 4: 2:43:06

All kinds of topics, guys, that's fun. Yeah, truth. Speaker1970 says silver having a nice run today. It is having a nice run today. It is having a nice run today. What's silver doing? We're just over 37. Yeah, it was over 37, back under 37, but it's still. I mean it's staying strong. You probably got some profit taking. Let's see I've got back over on YouTube. Let's see I've got back over on youtube.

Speaker 4: 2:43:38

I have always considered our freedom comes from the millions of people owing millions of arms, owning millions of arms, not from the wars fought to make evil men rich. I hate that so many fought, killed and died for a lie. I do do too. This is from Denny. Yeah, that's that one thing. Right, we still are an armed nation. We still have the Second Amendment. We still have the right to keep and bear arms. That does for the security of a free state. Right, that is necessary and that has been a bulwark against globalist tyranny and that's something that we can make a difference on and has been a bulwark against globalist tyranny and that's something that we can make a difference on. It's like, as far as gun ownership and things like that, that's still something you can make an absolute difference on, and free speech is another thing. I think there's been some improvements on speech over the last six, seven years. I'm proud of that. I think there's been some good, there's been some things happen that are good and there's been progress.

Speaker 4: 2:44:40

But then we get into situations like today and you just can't get drowned by the partisanship of it. You have to step back and call it for what it is, and I think that's absolutely necessary and it's okay. There's always going to be challenges and I think it makes you better If you met no resistance. That's the thing about becoming the optimal self. If you don't have resistance, then you won't If you don't have anything pushing back against you.

Speaker 4: 2:45:12

It's arguably something that happened during the cold war. This was america part of its best self in some of those times, you know, or did it represent the best of its ideals because of and you can argue, look, I know you can argue all things about the fakeness of it, but I think at some time it was. You know what the america of 1985, of, of rocky four. That's a completely different america, don't you think? You know the way that it was represented, at least when I was a kid, and what it looked like to me and the ideals of it, um, and I think that it spawned from entertainment, it spawned from popular culture, from from politics at the time, and it's not perfect, but it seemed a lot more cohesive.

Speaker 4: 2:45:59

Of course, it was a different country then. I mean you could have, demographically, you could have the Reagan Democrats and Reagan wins, 48 states in 1984. That would never is anybody carrying 48 states ever again, probably. And they'll be blue, you know it'll be whatever blue means to you. But that's just because of demographics. Interesting times, folks. I'm going to continue. There's another article I want to read. I'll go back and forth to the chat we got about.

Speaker 8: 2:46:37

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Speaker 4: 2:47:42

This was. This was fun today. This again, I'm going to keep you in the wheelhouse of the monetary system, global finance. I can't really announce what I'm going to call the new show yet. I don't want to. I need to have everything drawn up before I do that, but you guys are going to love it. I need to have everything drawn up before I do that, but you guys are going to love it.

Speaker 4: 2:47:57

And we're going to do a weekly broadcast that is in conjunction with a newsletter, and the newsletter will go out the same day and we're going to cover those articles that are in the newsletter and it'll be interactive. So we'll put that out to our. It's a free. Nothing will ever be behind a paywall with me, but we're working on that, that behind the scenes, so you guys stay tuned for that and that's going to be. That's going to be a great project. That'll be, I think, the biggest thing I've done so far.

Speaker 4: 2:48:23

Um, in my podcast, because we're going to be on every channel and it's geopolitics somewhat, but it's mostly precious metals, bitcoin, monetary system, uh system, intel and open source, and I think that will hopefully keep us from having to suffer too much against censorship or getting banned so we'll be able to reach more people because we're going to be covering these macroeconomic topics. But you guys know my background. You can always check in on like Arterburn Radio Transmission or Paratroother, because you know that's also my other wheelhouse. My origin is out of the conspiracy theory of history, because that's where scholarship is. I didn't get into the realm of conspiracy by wanting clicks. I got there by reading a lot and thinking and then seeing how things work. It's just evidence-based. Conspiracy theory is just grown-up time.

Speaker 4: 2:49:25

That's what. That is All right. This is Zero Hedge today. Gold, the global financial system's lie detector. The Global Financial System's Lie Detector that's a little question mark there Authored by Matthew Pipenberg, via Von Gehr's. Gold Is gold, calling out a broken financial system. It's funny because I've used this same rhetoric Early this year.

Speaker 4: 2:49:56

I was asked to give my most heretic opinion about the global financial system. This was an unusual yet bold question and after a brief pause I answered that the entire system was well a lie. This may seem like a sensational response and an industry sometimes prone to the sensational. However, if we look at some stubborn facts, the answer is truer than it's extreme when it comes to a financial system rotting from within. The Botox-like beauty of a ballooning S&P and centralized credit market hides an aging and decrepit disease. Credit market hides an aging and decrepit disease. That is policy. Lies like Botox can't hide reality forever in the evidence of a fatally debt-sick system. Hiding financial truths and the forked tongues and euphemistic lingo is literally all around us. Euphemistic lingo is literally all around us. This is from the very era of my birth.

Speaker 4: 2:51:01

The list of lies is almost comical and this has a picture of Nixon saying your dollar will be worth just as much as tomorrow as it is today. It wasn't, though, that august 15th 1971 um no, it wasn't. You know what's funny is by, and I don't take pleasure in this, but I could. He had john connelly was his uh, secretary of the treasury. John connelly was in the car. He was governor of texnolly was in the car. He was governor of Texas. He was riding in the car with Kennedy. That's where you get the magic bullet theory, and I was joking, you know. He created the magic monetary theory and the magic bullet theory at the same time, you know, separated by less than 10 years. So 1971, he's Nixon's treasury secretary. Nixon was in love with him Like this. This is the greatest thing, I think. By the early eighties, though, john Connolly had filed for bankruptcy, and it's, you know, nothing wrong with sometimes having to file for bankruptcy, but you know there's kind of the doesn't make you like Lord of finance, not to say that I am, but I wasn't secretary of the treasury either. Finance, not to say that I am, but I wasn't Secretary of the Treasury either.

Speaker 4: 2:52:23

In 1971, for example, when Nixon decoupled the dollar from gold, thereby allowing his own and future administrations the unfettered luxury and sickness of expanding, debasing the money supply. He promised the measure would be temporary and that our dollar would be worth just as much today as it is or tomorrow as it is today. Both statements, of course, were open lies. Fifty years later, the dollar remains unchaperoned to gold and when measured against a milligram of that same precious metal, the USD and other major fiat currencies, it has lost 99% of its purchasing power. And that's the experiment and what I've been talking about.

Speaker 4: 2:53:02

And I think I can continue to pay attention to that, because that's the big story, and maybe it's just me, maybe it's just that I'm interested in it, but I think it's bigger than me. I think it's bigger than what even we give it credit for. It's not just about having a higher price in your silver or having a higher price in your gold or your Bitcoin or something like that. This is a monetary revolution of the highest order. So we're literally watching something of major historical importance, possibly the biggest story, and it will change everything. And, like I said earlier in the show, I mean that is the big question. It's like what will they do? They can't do what they're doing forever, so it has to change or you have a complete implosion of the entire system itself, like the death of currency.

Speaker 4: 2:54:04

The difference between currency and money is the magic trick Because, just like this article mentions 1971, you go off the gold standard Gold's $35 an ounce on August 15th 1971. You end the decade 1979, about the time I was born gold's close to $800 an ounce. And that's in 1979 dollars. I don't think we've reached even parity of then as far as purchasing power is concerned, and that's what happened to the dollar. There was a lot of effort that went into putting that aside and buying some time, but whatever was accomplished inside this past 54 years, it is, I think, a reckoning that's happening. Meanwhile, gold is rising faster against the USD and other world currencies as their purchasing power is diluted by desperate policies to inflate away their debt with debased currencies. That's the thing. It's worldwide.

Speaker 4: 2:55:13

Folks. Don't just forget about the dollar. You should look at even understanding what's happening to the Bank of Japan. If you go on the Twitter handle Gold Telegraph, he brings that up a lot what's happening with the Japanese yen, and that's another lesson in centralized control of central banking and fiat currency. And then what ends up happening? You talk about deficit spending and borrowing and the owning of government debt by the central bank and it's just a snake eating its own tail. And that's why you look at the price of gold or something that is a hard asset or something finite like Bitcoin, it's hard not to see the dichotomy there, like one's going one way, one's going the other, and you can see like the big capital starting to trend into a new monetary order based off order Lying to our founding fathers. It's also worth noting that fiat paper dollar unbacked by gold is a direct contradiction to our Constitution and, in my mind, is itself just another lie.

Speaker 4: 2:56:37

Wilson's Fed, woodrow Wilson. But long before the lies of 1971, let us not forget the lie of 1913, when Wilson signed an equally unconstitutional Federal Reserve into law, a so-called independent bank, which is anything but independent. It's effectively a fourth branch of government and is neither federal nor a reserve. It runs things. Folks put it that way and they were even asking like, can that should be a big tell for you if you're like an establishment hack? It's like well, uh, can president trump not fire jerome powell? Like we don't even know what he can do? Well, an establishment hack? It's like well, can President Trump not fire Jerome Powell? We don't even know what he can do. Well, that's interesting. I thought this was a part of the government. I think the president, by its charter, gets to appoint a new head of the Federal Reserve or gets to select from a group of people like in name only right.

Speaker 8: 2:57:40

This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. Picture this. You're on an important virtual interview answering that make or break question and suddenly your screen freezes Not the impression you want. Good internet has never been more important. I'm constantly doing podcast interviews, video calls and important work on my computer, so I have to have a solid connection. That's why you can't take slow for an answer, and with Optimum Internet you won't have to. It's fast and reliable internet with 99.9% network reliability so you can stream work and game seamlessly. Plus, get a two-year price lock and a $100 prepaid card. Don't take slow for an answer. Call 888-4-OPTIMUM, visit Optimumcom or visit your local Optimum store today. Terms apply. See Optimumcom for details.

Speaker 4: 2:58:32

To, yeah, to the Fed, the president's like, whatever the king of or? Queen of England.

Speaker 4: 2:58:37

England is to the parliament or something Like. There's a figurehead, larry Summers. Fast forward to the great financial crisis of 2008, which was effectively a mortgage-backed security credit implosion driven by an unregulated derivatives market. And we see even more staggering dishonesty. A decade before this levered credit implosion, treasury Secretary Larry Summers was called to Congress to answer Brooklands-Bourne's concern, as the head of the CFTC, that these derivative instruments, if left unregulated, would destabilize markets. Summers publicly embarrassed, born and then told the world that the bankers in charge of these OTC instruments of levered destruction were more than sophisticated enough to manage the risk.

Speaker 4: 2:59:32

Of course, by the 2008 market implosion, we all know that assertion was a lie. That was a weird time, because so much was out in the open that even as a 28-year-old I was watching. I was like that can't be right. That can't be right. The markets aren't that strong, they're not doing well. And then you just see these financial analysts saying it's great, it's great, everything's fine, it's all very sound. And then Bernanke, yellen and Powell. We all also know that when the markets tanked in 2008, thanks largely to Mr Summers' deregulation fiasco, bernanke's subsequent promise that the money printing which followed and he said counterfeiting euphemistically called quantitative easing that was referenced here was Bernanke, and I remember the price of gold was hitting a close $2,000. Now he calmed everybody down. That's when silver hits last $50. That was 2011. Calmed everything down Won't happen again. Calmed everything down won't happen again. It says QE1 was soon followed by QE2, qe3, qe4, operation Twist and then the unlimited QE by 2020. That's unlimited, but such lies are nothing new to central bankers. Remember Yellen? It says you will never see another financial crisis in your lifetime, janet Yellen, spring of 2018. See another financial crisis in your lifetime, janet Yellen, spring of 2018. I do not worry that we could have another financial crisis. Janet Yellen, fall of 2018.

Speaker 4: 3:01:28

Wow, oh, this is so much fun. He's breaking it down. All right, I'll see what else is in the chat before. I don't want to let the clock run out too far. Let's see, this is a twisted communique. If Rambo, waylon Jennings and David Knight had a nephew, his name would be Tony, and blue collar Eric says bookcase Tony, ain't that tough. I like you, blue collar Eric, I ain't that tough, but twisted communique. It's very kind, sir, I would never claim to be tough. It's hard to be, it's hard to look tough when you walk around with a Chihuahua. Um, it's kind of funny. It's kind of incongruent, um, but hey, it's trying to figure that out. You know what am I? What am I trying to communicate with? Uh, walking around with my Chihuahua all the time? Uh, it's my best friend. Again, if you want to throw some questions out to me, you're definitely welcome to.

Speaker 4: 3:02:40

As we close out, we're in the last uh 21 minutes of the show. Uh, professor sdn, where's david knight? He's taking some time off his convalescing sir, he's uh, he's just getting better, ready to come back back to his own show. I'm just keeping the chair warm for him, the best of my ability. That's over there on my ex or Twitter, or whatever it's called. I don't like rebranding. It's like when they did the new Coke, remember that in the 80s.

Speaker 4: 3:03:24

Let's see uh, tony, how do you dance and still look tough? Is that? Are you? Is that a? Is that a real question? Like a, do I, or like you, talk about the dancing israelis? Do they look tough to you? Um, I'm not sure I dance that much. Is that fun? That's Patrick Swayze. I don't know, can you dance? I don't know, can you still be tough and you can two-step. Is that a thing? I think you can be somewhat? Is that acceptable? You guys are fun.

Speaker 4: 3:03:59

You have to go join, you know, go check out America Unplugged's channel over on Rumble. If you like Rumble, subscribe to America Unplugged and follow me over on Twitter at Tony Arterburn. I will be live this Thursday for the Arterburn radio transmission. I go out over Worldwide Christianian radio wwcr. We do that. I used to do an everyday show. I kept a one hour. It's kind of a remnant, but we're on episode 506, I think, coming up. 507, uh, coming up this week. So, uh, yeah, do, do join.

Speaker 4: 3:04:33

And what will you do when the government outlaws gold? Uh, that's a great question, because I get that all the time and I don't know, um, the people that kept the gold when fdr wrote his executive order in april of 1933, the people that kept the gold did really well. You just uh, they just get caught. And because I know that they kept the gold, because I buy that gold all the time which is some of the funniest things because the pre-1933 gold coins are there's still a ton of them out there a lot of people said, yeah, I'm not doing. Because you have to think, like, if you're holding that gold coin and you realize that there's a whole wider world out there, and just because the US outlaws it or something or they made it illegal for you to hoard and you were able to keep a certain amount of it, I just don't fear that as much because the government's going to do what the government does. But if you read history like I do, then you find that gold prevails, it outlasts governments, it outlasts tyranny, it just outlasts us. It's God's money and if you want to call it that, it's not from a scriptural standpoint, it just means that it is finite. Scriptural standpoint it just means that it is finite. It's from um, it's from our earth or, well, part of it, it's from the formation of it and it'll be here forever and that's the way it works.

Speaker 4: 3:06:06

Blue collar eric says tony, you are the man, all jokes aside. Well, you can joke with me anytime. I love that. I'm fine with that as a matter of fact. I love that, I'm fine with that as a matter of fact. I had I'll tell you guys a story and it's kind of.

Speaker 4: 3:06:36

I work a lot on maintaining, I think, as I read more understand about presence and like the presence of mind, which is which is, you know, to make good decisions and to be in the moment and to be the best version of yourself. And, uh, you know, we're taught, we teach these, these little boys. You know when I was taught a lot of this stuff. You know, be a show your emotions, do all this stuff. Yeah, control, it is actually what you should say. Um, because it's, it's not as a like, it's something I study a lot, it's having a presence of mind and then have just this internal, trying to be calm. You know, calm, make decisions and then not react immediately because you can make better decisions.

Speaker 4: 3:07:09

I don't always do well with that and maybe 10, 15 years ago, you know, a comment or something set me off. I'd think about it. You know, keep me up at night. No, it doesn't Matter of fact, I was, I had beans with me, um, and I took her in this little restaurant, this little Mexican restaurant down the street from my house in Denison, and I just she sits on my lap and just I mean she doesn't do anything, she just sits there and I'll eat a little bit and read you know, at the end of the day and this guy had been drinking way too much, he was a Gulf War veteran.

Speaker 4: 3:07:42

I found out. He was telling me where he served in the Gulf War and he was a Marine. And I said oh you look like a military man. I said I am, I just wanted to eat. He kept going and said what about your basic training? What kind of basic training did you have? I went in the 80s and you could still get hit and beat up there I said, yeah, I had a tough drill sergeant in the Army.

Speaker 4: 3:08:04

I love my drill sergeant. He was an awesome guy, somebody I looked up to. I didn't say much. The guy kept going. He said, well, you know. And then he made the point. He said if he'd just gone through a tougher basic training when they could still hit people, he wouldn't need that dog. Talking about me Like I was. I need beans to, like you know, function or something. And I just thought that was like 10 years ago. I might have been like incensed by that I really want to call him out for because, first of all, like you know, I did this is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea.

Speaker 8: 3:08:40

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Speaker 4: 3:09:26

Three wars, you know, and invaded countries. I mean, it's a little bit different than Desert Storm. I'm not taking anything away from that, but I don't need my dog that way. I want my dog, I hang out with my dog, and so it made me laugh and so I think that's where we can. I think it's a good thing. I start with that, especially if you're watching all these headlines and yeah, you can be passionate, but there's a fine line you get too much, you can get pulled in. This is exactly what they want.

Speaker 4: 3:10:02

Let's see Twisted Communique, said the Shaw, said the West installed the Ayatollah. Will the Ayatollah be taken out, or are we just cleaning house for him, taking out domestic secular hardliners? Oh, that's an interesting question. Yeah, it gives us an enemy too, like the boogeyman 1979, very critical year. That's when Saddam Hussein came to power too. It's like how far do they plan these things out? Yeah, don't take that off the table. We just need people to fight. According to the establishment Guard Goldsmith says my grandfather didn't turn in his gold. Of course he didn't. That's fun. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:11:00

You guys are great. Anything else you want to shoot my way go ahead before we close out Bob Earthday.

Speaker 4: 3:11:13

Honey Badger said, sadly, the controllers will have their war because they own the government. Well, they may get their war, um, but I think if we do our job and we talk with people, not at them, you know, we get information out. It's hard to control a populace who doesn't believe. You may have it for a while, but you never. It's one of the things that the cultural Marxists learned when they were kicked out of Hitler's Germany in the 30s and fled here to the United States. It's known as the Frankfurt School, and they were ardent Marxists, you know, and they just saw the Soviet Union and said that's not really what we are. The people have to obey the government, but they don't believe. That's why they started the cultural revolution of cultural Marxism inside the universities, and that's where you get the 1960s. It was a direct correlation of the Frankfurt School and cultural Marxism, because they wanted to start with the youth and make them believe it. But you change your mind and it's hard for this stuff to stick and I think that a lot of their ideology is bankrupt because of that. Already I think they've gone too far.

Speaker 4: 3:12:34

All right, let me finish one more thing on this article or so, and then I want to tell you about some things with david knight dot gold, some things I'm seeing. I want to talk to you about wolfpack. Since I've got you here, we've got almost I mean, we got more than 1200 people, probably close to, if you add, I don't know how many on rumble, but I don't think I can see that on this side. We've got a great deal of people watching right now. I'll talk to you about some of the stuff going on, how you can support David and where you can find me. All that good stuff. Keep this stream going and keep this stream going.

Speaker 4: 3:13:17

This is MMT Modern Monetary Theory, or, as David calls it, the magic money tree, for example. It's neither modern nor monetary, nor a theory. The fantasy of believing a nation can solve a debt crisis via more debt, which is then monetized by creating fake money, has been tried from ancient Rome in 1789 France to 1990s Yugoslavia, but, as history confirms, it has failed every time. Other such lying euphemisms, from the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security to the safe and effective of our now pardoned trust, the science leadership, may be less economic, but they are also less dishonest by being far more about centralization than anything patriotic or security driven in some. So many lies, so many examples. Yeah, I've said this for years uh, when you and that's why I call them luciferian bankster notes lb ends, if you're going, I just I'm betting against the system.

Speaker 4: 3:14:22

Period end of issue. I'm betting against it. I'm betting on like I don't. I don't hold a bunch of stocks, I don't hold a bunch of interests, I don't have a bunch of sponsors. Necessarily I, I sponsor myself and I'm betting against what the system has created by greater than 40% of the US population. Media outlets are owned by just five megacorporations.

Speaker 4: 3:15:05

Is it any wonder that such lies as Mark Twain quipped can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting it on its shoes? I always thought that quote was the truth, was putting its pants on. Gold is the ultimate lie detector Toward the end. We clearly know we are reaching an inflection point in the global financial system, when even the liars have started to confess the truth, and much of the truth is golden. In recent reports, they warn the rising demand for physical gold over 2 000 tons from london to nyc in 2025 could send the european union into collapse. Did you see that the europe European Central Bank warned that gold is a threat to the system because gold officially supplanted the euro as the second-held most reserve asset by central banks. It went from a pet rock to a massive threat to the global order.

Speaker 4: 3:16:11

Because you start monetizing in gold and it's a totally different world and you talk about budget constraints and other things. You have to start showing your cards. How much liquidity do you have? You have to balance things again. You just can't go to the printing press and create a new war or a new program or have open borders and all the stuff that we do.

Speaker 4: 3:16:36

It says why Because the Eurozone already teetering on skyrocketing debt debts and rising bond yields Hence the interest rates doesn't have the money nor the goal to meet their 100 to one levered gold derivative contracts, hitherto floating on the London and New York gold exchanges with a gross exposure of over 1 trillion. He says yes, one trillion, wow. Sadly. We've been warning of this derivative time bomb and Comex insanity for years, yet only now the ECB is confessing its trillion dollar problem out loud. Well, war covers up a lot. If you notice the war against its own people that they carried out in 2020, rockefeller lockstep style, the lockdowns they're mirroring each other around the world doing the same things, and that was a lot in due to what was happening behind the scenes, financially as well. And notice that in 2020, the currency injections went from QE to QE unlimited, as this article states. Qe to QE unlimited, as this article states.

Speaker 4: 3:18:00

Well, excellent piece. And I do think that this is like the end level of what Gresham's Law. Gresham's Law states that when bad money enters a system, then good money goes into hiding and the end game of that is that the bad money dies and then you're left with what we have now. So that is the changing economic landscape. Ladies and gents, I appreciate all of you being here. I want to bring up the fact and I didn't do this yesterday I want to put this on the screen and that's thedavidknightshowcom. If you haven't been, if you're new to the show or you're just tuning in, this is a good link to share around, because you can find all of David's links to his podcasts. You can sign up for any sort of updates or news where to watch him live. You can see that the meter is down as far as the donations and I heard from David yesterday.

Speaker 4: 3:19:14

I need to reply to him. Just got in the studio early and I didn't want to. I don't want to wake him up. If, uh, it's probably I don't think you could wake david up when I get up he gets up earlier than me, but I didn't want to disturb him. So you guys check that out. Hey guys, I hope you can let me know if you can hear me.

Speaker 4: 3:19:32

My internet cut off at my office in branson so I've been trying to come back in for the past five minutes so I could close out the show so I won't have any of the intros or anything. If you could let me know that you can hear me. Okay, any of the other sites I just need to close out. Okay, make sure you guys knew where to find me and where to find David and all the rest. So if you can let me know on YouTube, that'd be great. If you can hear me, hopefully you can. It says that you're picking up my mic. So anyway, thanks to everybody for tuning in. Sorry about the technical difficulties here the last three or four minutes.

Speaker 4: 3:20:17

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Speaker 8: 3:22:19

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