The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast

#512 The Moon is Flat (And Other Economic Truths)

The Arterburn Radio Transmission
Speaker 1:

We have before us the opportunity to forge, for ourselves and for future generations, a new world order. Good evening folks. You're listening to the hour of the time. I'm William Cooper. The chair is against the wall. The chair is against the wall. John has a long mustache. John has a long mustache. It's 12 o'clock, Americans, another day closer to victory. And for all of you out there on or behind the lines, this is your song. Veteran of three foreign wars, entrepreneur and warrior, poet Tony Arterburn takes on the issues facing our country, civilization and planet. This is the Arterburn Radio Transmission.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Welcome to tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen. It is August 7th 2025. I am your host, tony Arterburn. I'm broadcasting from deep within the heart of Texas, at the Denison location. I do not have Beans the Brave, which is a weird feeling. She's in Arkansas. She should be back down today. So I will have my Chihuahua, my companion, my guardian against bad vibes, intruders and woodland creatures, next to me very soon. We've got a lot to cover.

Speaker 2:

I was just going over some of my notes and I realized that yesterday was the anniversary of the first atomic bomb being used and I was asked by Travis Knight today. We'll get into this a little bit later as an article up on Lou Rockwell, but it reminded me that I had not used my tagline in a long time about welcome to tomorrow, and I got that from a song of my youth listening to Megadeth and it all kind of ties together, the way that stream of consciousness works. The term mega death was used by statisticians and the people that looked at the realities of the Cold War. A mega death is a death of a million people, so, like you know, they would cause so many mega deaths and that's where Dave Mustaine got the idea for his band name after he was kicked out of metallica for being a little bit too wild, and I was thinking about that because I used uh his term uh from one of his songs called ashes in your mouth, and it's about the, the blowback of war and the, the darkness of that side of human nature. And one of the taglines I remember when I was a kid I was training at Texas gym or something and thinking about my future and going to the military and just I had, I think, a continuity of my own timeline somewhere deep embedded in me and I feel like I was connected to future and past somewhat. I mean because if I look back on my life, it seems like that was supposed to happen, you know, and that's why I believe in God and I believe that mankind has a destiny. But Welcome to Tomorrow was that tagline, and I thought when I restarted the Art of Burn radio transmission, I thought I'd open with that and I haven't done that in a long time, but it seems more appropriate than ever. I was just looking at the headlines on Drudge and James Cameron. The director warns of a Terminator style apocalypse if AI is weaponized. Apocalypse if AI is weaponized. And so I read that again and I thought well, he's warning now, but he's been warning it the whole time. It goes back to the original term.

Speaker 2:

We were brought up to understand that once artificial intelligence was able to take over or to assert itself and see humans as a threat, that it would throw us off. You know it would, and the matrix taught us that. I mean, there's so many different post-apocalyptic movies that in popular culture and everything else. I just wonder, though, ladies and gentlemen, I f if you actually use an interface with AI and you look at it and you have it examine things. And I've seen I'm actually catching up a little bit, because I was behind the curve while I was reading some books on it, because I'm curious as to what it can do, and I'm wondering if all of this is just some sort of conditioning. We're being primed to believe that it's your overlord, you know, to believe that it's your master. You have to be careful what you put into your mind. I mean, obviously they're bringing back their greatest hits with James Cameron's thing, telling us again that he already told us that AI will be you know, if it's weaponized, will be a Terminator-style apocalypse. But thanks for the many warnings there. James Cameron, we've got a lot to cover today and I don't know if I can get to everything, but I definitely will try. I've got an article up on Activist Post we want to talk about with Michael Snyder and he asked the question is the? Is the federal reserve trying to hurt us on purpose? So I think he answers his own question.

Speaker 2:

But uh, let's jump into some stuff that's happening with precious metals. I'm going to do a little bit of gold news and, um, we'll cover some spot prices for sure, here in the show, kind of talk a little bit about what's happening with silver. Lots of, lots of movement uh, there in the. Here in the show Kind of talk a little bit about what's happening with silver. Lots of movement there in the realm of the white metal. But let's go to Kitco and we're going to talk a little bit about price forecasting, which I think is just like Citi here. I think it's just like Citi here. Their Intel group is price forecasting gold back to $3,500 an ounce by November on negative US outlook and geopolitical risk. And I think that they're right on the money because we have a lot of geopolitical risk. If you're actually paying attention, the Grand Chessboard is out of whack.

Speaker 2:

Ladies and gents, it's not what it seems, and there's a lot of chaos right now. Banking giant Citi announced on Monday that it has raised its gold price forecast to $3,500 per ounce over the next three months, up from $3,300 in June. Us growth and tariff-related inflation concerns are set to remain elevated during 2H25, which, alongside a weaker dollar, are set to drive gold moderately higher to a new all-time high, as the bank's analysts wrote. All-time highs. The bank's analyst wrote Citi's expected trading range for the yellow metal was raised to $3,300 to $3,600, from $3,100 back to $3,500. So this is, I think you're going to start seeing more that we've gone through this cycle where you know we opened up the year with a lot of uh growth in crypto. Uh, we just got through with the the genius act and uh, the stable coins.

Speaker 2:

I was reading earlier today there was a post up on the gold telegraphs x account. It was talking about $256 billion in dollar-backed stable coins right now, which I think is just the beginning. Folks, this digital revolution is going on. As I've always said, the dollar is not going to zero, the dollar is going to digital. So we're going to see that start to happen, I believe, through the public-private partnerships of stable coins and, as Gold Telegraph talked about in the post itself. He said now next step watch out for gold-backed stable coins.

Speaker 2:

Citi said their higher gold forecast is also supported by weaker US labor data. Yeah, and how did you like the firing of the statistician that's supposed to give you the labor data in the last week? I thought that was probably the most accurate marker on the signpost ahead, like the Twilight Zone, where you get fired for sending out the stats and you don't fire the people that gave you the actual numbers, you just fire the people that tell you what the numbers are. Increased concerns about institutional credibility of the federal reserve and us statistics and elevated geopolitical risk related to the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Yeah, a lot of people thought that the Russia-Ukraine conflict was over. We put that back in the box and I told everybody that's nowhere near over.

Speaker 2:

And if you look at what the goals of NATO has always been and the neons post-Cold War, the need for the military-industrial complex to have that enemy, they like that tension, they like that possibility of kinetic conflict and, of course, they love their possibility of nuclear exchange. They love all that. So, no, I didn't think that would wind down, of course. Trump just sent some nuclear submarines into the territory and we still have the evil, crazy Zelensky, because that is an evil man. If you look at Sun Tzu, what did Sun Tzu say about? An evil man will rule over the ashes of his country. That man doesn't want peace at any price.

Speaker 2:

The bullish predictions are a sharp departure from the bank's forecast from just six weeks ago. In a report published in mid-June, citi's commodities analysts lowered their gold price forecast and warned investors that a precious metal could fall below $3,000 an ounce by the end of the year. Yeah, I don't see that. If you look at the actual strength of the markets and what's happening around the world, you got to look at what the largest holders of capital are doing, and they're not playing in these markets. They are acquiring assets. They are acquiring commodities, rare earth, minerals, copper, gold, silver. Some of them are even starting stockpiling things that are finite and looking at things like Bitcoin and cross-border payment systems and, of course, always petroleum.

Speaker 2:

It's not the ethereal blue sky that the financial networks will tell you to dabble in because of the uncertainty, because of the upheaval, and we are in a fourth turning. Ladies and gents. We are in that cyclical part of history, as I mentioned, and we'll talk about what happened at the end of the last fourth turning. Ladies and gents, we're in that cyclical part of history, as I mentioned, and and we'll talk about what happened at the end of the last fourth turning. We're going to go to an article and get into some deep history on lou rockwellcom today about the atomic bomb.

Speaker 2:

The analyst said in june that they expect gold safe haven allure to diminish heading into 2026 as an economic conditions improve. Well, that's what they thought and I think just looking at the tea leaves, looking into the geopolitical reality of where we are now, I think it's hard to to be optimistic on the standard economic system, isn't it just, given the uncertainty? I mean, if you look at everything that's happened with bitcoin the strategic bitcoin reserve, the stockpile, the uh the cryptos are everything you know, these companies that are putting Bitcoin as a reserve asset on their balance sheet, and we're starting Bitcoin treasury companies all over the world you would think the price would be a quarter of a million or something. But it stays in this volatile area because even with the ETFs and the supply shock and the exchanges and everything else, you'd think that the price would be higher, but it's not. It's not because of the volatility in other parts of the market. It's ugly times ugly out there and it's going to get weirder. So that's why I think you know, watch the trends. Folks Watch the trends. Watch what the big capital is doing. They're acquiring assets, central banks certainly gobbling up gold as much as they can, and other countries, starting to Even some countries in Africa, are nationalizing the mines, as the Chinese certainly have. They have 60,000 gold mines in China and they're a net, net importer, not exporter.

Speaker 2:

All right, let's go to. While we're on that vein, let's go to this article over on Activist Posts and, by the way, if you can go over to activistpostscom, let's put this up on the screen real quick. My friend Charlie Robinson. He is the owner of this site and fantastic news aggregation, no fluff, no filler. You can subscribe to the website as well and get updates. But I know Charlie and I know his research and this is some fantastic stuff. Activistpostcom. But he just reposted this article from Michael Snyder which had some interesting statistics.

Speaker 2:

We can always learn a little something from Michael Snyder. It says is the Federal Reserve purposely trying to destroy the US economy? Is the Federal Reserve purposely trying to destroy the US economy? It's a good Socratic method. Is it purposely trying to do it on purpose? Yeah, definitely, to borrow from Charlie himself, it's a controlled demolition. Oops, they did it again. Even though the housing market has been in a depressed state for an extended period of time and even though economic conditions are slowing down all over the country, the Federal Reserve has once again refused to lower interest rates. What in the world are they thinking? I certainly share President Trump's frustration with the Fed. Central banks all over the world have been cutting rates, but our central bank just won't budge. Have Fed officials gone completely insane or are they purposely trying to destroy the US economy question? I'd like to get into that a little bit with Michael Snyder.

Speaker 2:

First of all, the two positions like we either get to get interest rates as low as possible, and if you look at when rates raise and that's Jerome Powell raised rates faster than any Fed chair in history it causes other nations, it causes holders of dollars to freeze those and put them in treasury bonds and other instruments where the interest rate gives them a return, and so you don't have this. When you want to shrink the money supply, that's what you do you raise rates, you stop the QE and then again that will put a tamper on to inflation. So that's one side of the spectrum. Raised rates contract money supply. When you lower rates, you expand the money supply, so you create inflation and that's the dueling.

Speaker 2:

We have Trump's philosophy, or whatever that is, with the tariffs and the low rates and the weak dollar. The construction site with his little hat on going over budget shortfalls. You know losing $100 billion and you know the balance sheets were somewhere like $980 billion short a couple of years ago with the Federal Reserve and I thought that was funny because the people that make the money lost money. They literally make it and they lost money. Money, they literally make it and they lost money. But you have this, uh, you have this philosophy from jerome powell about a quote-unquote strong dollar and holding off on lowering interest rates. I think that and we'll get more into the article but I think that at the end of the day, both sides are wrong because you have, ultimately, you're still on the timeline for inflation. You're still on the timeline for a loss of purchasing power with the dollar. Dedoalorization is the reality.

Speaker 2:

Those who have been following my work for an extended period of time already know that I'm not a fan of the Federal Reserve at all. And now we have another very clear example of the Fed's lack of competence. The Federal Reserve said Wednesday it is keeping its benchmark interest rates unchanged, citing elevated uncertainty over the nation's economic outlook. Nation's economic outlook the decision to hold rates steady marks the continuation of the Fed's wait-and-see strategy this year as it monitors the impact of the Trump administration's tariffs on consumer prices. There were two Fed governors that did not agree with this decision. This was the first time since 1993 that more than one Fed governor had dissented and said who do you like for Fed chair? And he's like I don't think we need one, I don't like anybody for it, I don't want one that's more like me. I think you know. Audit the Fed. Turn the currency back over to the people. Folks. Let the Treasury. We have a Treasury for a reason.

Speaker 2:

The Federal Reserve is not a constitutional entity. It exists outside of the purview of the Constitution. That was never changed. We never added a constitutional amendment saying that entities outside of Congress could print money instead of coin it, and it could be something other than gold and silver, because that's in the constitution. So we never did that. This was smoke and mirrors to put us here. So it's it's kind of uh, it's, it's just a false argument. It's like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. There's something we are arguing over, nonsense, or this is Plato's Caves allegory writ large over our body politic, and especially in the finance.

Speaker 2:

For the first time since 1993, more than one Fed governor voted against Fed Chair Jerome Powell in the committee's major decision. The dissenters, governors Christopher Waller and michelle bowman, were both appointed by trump and, like the like the president, want to cut rates. For months, trump has been pressuring powell to cut rates, currently between 4.25 percent and 4.5 percent, threatened to fire him, appoint a shadow chair and even harangued him over the cost of improvements to the fed's office. That was where you where you get the two of them in hard hats. There are some experts that argue that we need to continue to keep interest rates at elevated levels in order to get inflation under control, michael Snyder says.

Speaker 2:

I definitely acknowledge that our seemingly endless cost of living crisis is a major concern, but what about the housing market? It has been in a depressed state for a long time. Last year, sales of existing homes in the US fell to the lowest level that we have seen since 1995. Well, and again, do you know why? Somebody I saw the other day they were doing a calculation and I probably need to look and to see if I can validate this. But this was a post and it talked about what would you need in order to have minimum wage match up to what it was 60 years ago, where you could buy a home, what it would take, what would minimum wage have to be? And it was like it'd be had to be like $66 an hour now for the same amount of purchasing power. So all of that, folks, in inside the price of real estate houses. It literally houses inside the house. It houses the failure of the central bank system, of fiat and the experiment. That's what's happening.

Speaker 2:

So, when wages don't rise, when you have an entire generation of people that are saddled by debt, they've been told to go out and borrow to go to school. The schools push for the student loans that you can't bankrupt yourself out of. They push for this. They raise tuitions, they do all this stuff. So you have this entire generation of people that were going to borrow all this money. They already owe a house. They already owe on what should be a mortgage before they even go to try to get a house, and then they've been priced out of the housing market mortgage before they even go to try to get a house, and then they've been priced out of the housing market.

Speaker 2:

How don't you think, do you think, that that has more to do with the failure of the financial system and the loss of purchasing power and the dollar and these inflated home prices, along with the declining or stagnant wage prices? That's why you're seeing this perfect storm where an entire you know again the new, the folks they're priced out of these markets. They have to wait for a housing bubble to burst, they have to wait for and even then, and then liquidity will dry up. So it's harder and harder to get ahead, and that's by design. Sales of previously owned homes, which make up the vast majority of the market, totaled 4.06 million in 2024, the National Association of Realtors said Friday. That's the lowest level since 1995, slightly below 2023's similarly anemic levels.

Speaker 2:

Well, this is, uh, I think, what you're seeing. A lot of the bitcoiners make an argument for this, and we've read articles like this about those who want to acquire digital assets over because they can get into them. So you know you, you just You've seen the pricing out because of these bubbles and this is where post-1973, folks, you got to go back to 1973. It's the last year that the United States ran a trade surplus. It's what built our country. We used to make things, we used to be the world's greatest creditor and we were taken off the gold standard and our manufacturing was sent overseas, and in large part due to the design of the technocrats of the Trilateral Commission, a design that created a consumer nation, which working these service jobs in a consumer nation along, you know, not making things anymore, not having a living wage. So we built the new US economy was about housing and that's why it became such a bubble. That's what the 2008 debacle was all about, and the subprime mortgages and the derivatives and everything that happened with the bubble that burst because of the rising cost of energy and everything else that followed all of that from 2000, the mid-2000s into 2008, and now we're seeing this is the end game of that. It says things were not even this bad during the great recession in 2008 and 2009. The primary reason why homes are not selling is because interest rates are way too high. Is the Fed going to sit there and watch the life get squeezed out of the most important pillars of our economy?

Speaker 2:

Of course there are many pundits that are pointing out today's GDP number as evidence that the overall economy is doing well. Gross domestic product of some of goods and services activity across the sprawling US economy jumped 3% for April through June period, according to figures adjusted for seasonality and inflation. That topped the Dow Jones estimate for 2.3% and helped reverse a decline of 0.5% in the first quarter. It came largely due to drop in imports, which subtract from the total. Well, another thing you have to add into GDP numbers too, folks.

Speaker 2:

It's like I was talking with Travis Knight today and I talked about the all-time high of silver, which was 45 years ago. So I was zero years old in 1980, born in the last days of 1979. I was zero years old, but silver hit its all-time high of $52.50. What is $52.50 in today's numbers? Well, it's like $300 in purchasing power today. So if you go by GDP, if you go by gross domestic product, if the dollar's worth less but you've increased the size or the numbers, it's deceiving you can have a higher gdp. But if the dollar doesn't go as far, it's not the same thing. If you again, if you transfer you know 52 dollars into from 1980 today, what's that going to buy? You certainly doesn't get you a full load of groceries. It did in 1980. You could go into safeway I promise you that in garland, texas, and come out with bags and bags of stuff, because that's just what 5252 would do back then. It doesn't do that today, and so those numbers can also be deceiving.

Speaker 2:

With Trump's double-digit tariffs looming, american retailers and manufacturers raced to order foreign goods early in the year, before the levies took effect. That led to an unprecedented flood of imports, which must be subtracted from GDP the goods that consumers, companies and the public sector bought because they're made overseas. Since those purchases were pulled forward, companies didn't need to order as many goods from other countries last quarter and imports plunged 30.3 percent. Imports plunged 30.3 percent. If you took away the 5.2 percent points that were added to our GDP due to falling imports, economic growth would have been deeply negative last quarter. Well, of course it would be, because we're not really.

Speaker 2:

I mean, if you really wanted to watch this country have an economic renaissance, what you would do is you would have. You would just completely abolish the corporate income tax and, by the way, very smart people have already run this simulation many times. I've been reading about it for years. You would give an incentive. You'd do carrot and stick, not just stick. You'd have carrot and stick. You'd say, well, no corporate income tax, put your company here, build things, invest here, make things. And if you don't, there's a 25% tariff on manufacturing goods and that's what replaced the revenue created by the corporate income tax. But if there was no corporate income tax, america became tax-free. But we won't do that because of the World Economic Forum. World Economic Forum and the UN have a standard agreement on income tax, just like the Communist Manifesto. But that's the way you would do it. That's the way america became such a powerhouse is because we had no income tax. That was, uh, what made us financially dominant in the remnants of it, even past 1913, when we had the income tax. It didn't really bleed into American culture until about the mid-20th century, but now it's everywhere, doing what it's supposed to do.

Speaker 2:

Let's get into this. Michael Snyder says I don't have any confidence in the numbers that the government gives us at this stage. When president trump called them fake prior to the election, he was right on target. One survey found that 70 of americans are feeling anxiety and depression due to finances. That wouldn't be happening if our economy was in good shape. Unfortunately, as long as the Federal Reserve keeps interest rates at elevated levels, it's going to be a real struggle to turn things around. Well, that's one way to look at it, and Michael Snyder is a smart guy. He's got the Economic Collapse blog and he does this every day.

Speaker 2:

I would say, though, that the devastation and it is demonic, I mean it's truly evil. If you look at what's happened to people's incomes, what's happened to their lifestyle, their purchasing power, the decisions that people have had to make because of the massive amount of inflation that's taken place, because of the massive amount of inflation that's taken place, and you can get into the larger conspiracy or the larger plan here and it wasn't about COVID-19 for it. It wasn't about that. It's just these were sideshows. The larger, you know, great reset. You know the last quarter of 2019, as I've mentioned many, many times showed the largest exodus of CEOs in history. Ceos were leaving their companies. There was $6 trillion created by the Federal Reserve Bank alone to prop up the liquidity markets, the overnights, to clear checks and to clear loans and to clear everything else because liquidity was drying up. So they created new currency in the trillions. It's unprecedented and that's why it was important to have lockdowns and everything else that you had in the first quarter of 2020. Uh, they needed a liquidity injections without creating the inflation, at least the after effects.

Speaker 2:

What happens when you pump those dollar units into the system, be they paper or be they electronic? People use them, they go buy things, the demand goes up. This is what happened in 08, by the way, there were so many people flipping houses and borrowing against it. You get 125% alone against your house in California in 2006, 2007. I know that because I was in real estate. So you could borrow 125%. And where did all that cash go? It went to go buy things and it would buy cheap things and stuff from overseas. Those plants overseas would make that stuff, send them to Walmart and the price of energy went up Crude, if you remember the timeline. Crude started to go as $4 a gallon for gasoline. Crude started to go off the map because the energy demand was so high. Well, guess what? People had to decide whether they were going to buy gasoline or whether they were going to pay their mortgage because it was that tight. So that whole house of cards comes crumbling down.

Speaker 2:

That's what happens when you inject fake money into the system and new currency units. At first it looks like it's going great money into the system and new currency units. At first it looks like it's going great. At first it looks like it's really happy and everything's just moving like it should and there's lots of optimism. But then those chickens come home to roost and you sober up and realize that you have to pay this bill and the price of everything goes up because the dollars or the currency units go down. Does that make sense, folks? This is the stuff that wakes me up at 3 am and I just go.

Speaker 2:

That's not, you know, whenever I think, well, why am I opposed to that? Like I actually, you know, instinctively, I look at fiat currency as demonic and I think, well, could you defend it? You know, could you run the other side of the argument? No, I can't, because I constantly try to figure out. Why is it that I'm opposed to this? I'm opposed to it because I'm opposed to currency creations. So this argument about lowering rates in the short term, he's correct. But the problem is that we're not fixing the system. So all of that, you may be able to ride a little bit longer.

Speaker 2:

But this next bubble, you're talking about the devaluation. That's what it is, folks. It's a great devaluation of fiat currency. This is worldwide, it's systemic, it's mal malignant, it's metastasizing and it's in, it's invasive. And that's why, if you're looking at what the great central banks, the big players, the multinationals, if you look at what they're doing, they're hoarding commodities in the face of this. And there's also an interesting path, I think, for things like Bitcoin, if you look at what BlackRock's doing with it. So pay attention to that.

Speaker 2:

You know whether the rates get lowered which they will, by the way. The rates will get lowered and we're going into midterms, you know, into next year. There will be a lot of talk about that. The rates will get lower. They will do something. There will be liquidity injection into the market. You can take that to the bank. That will happen. So, regardless of all this, that's going to happen. But the end result is always inflation, loss of purchasing power, and if you're saving those Luciferian Bankster notes, you're in bad shape.

Speaker 2:

All right, let me go to the chat. Again, thanks for everybody for being here. Let's see. I see Knights of the Storm. In the chat it says Charlie is a cool guy. Yeah, charlie Robinson is the coolest and has a great show called Macroaggression. So get over there and support Charlie.

Speaker 2:

Over at the Activist Post and I'm sponsoring Wise Wolf and Wolf Pack are proud sponsors. Over at Activist Post Dustin Helm says hey, tony, good to see you, it's good to see you, dustin, let's see Thunderhoe. He's got lots of comments there. Uh, I'm trying to keep up with what, uh, what he's asking me. We got lots, lots going. Are you a bot, sir? Could be a bot. Lots of bots. Uh, dustin helm says good info. Thank you, dustin, I appreciate that. And AI theorist over on YouTube Freedom Cities yeah, that's like the Patriot Act.

Speaker 2:

There's no freedom in a freedom city. There's no patriotism in that act. It's an act designed to go after patriots is what that act is for. Yes, and Rhonda Tate, this is very demonic. It is a demonic system and you know, be careful that you don't fall into the trap. It's like which one do you like better? Do you like Coke or Pepsi? I don't like diabetes, I don't like either one of those. Do you like Republicans or Democrats? Which one are you? What's that from the campaign with Will Ferrell. Is he a Taliban or is he an al-Qaeda? He won't answer the question. I don't like either.

Speaker 2:

Raise rates, don't raise rates. How about no Fed and let's go back, give the people some sound money. Sound money comes from the term of the sound that it makes. Uh, you know gold and silver have a distinct ring to it, but it was also the sound that it makes and that it was sound. It was built on sound principle. All All right. Well, there's lots to cover.

Speaker 2:

Briefly, I wanted to mention that I want to know more about this and if you go and ask AI about the moon landing, it has not yet censored itself. If you go ask it, I ask it what the mathematical chances were of being able to go to the moon and then stop and not do it again for, you know, 50 plus years, if that was mathematically probable. And it has said it wasn't. And it said that possibly there's structures found or just told not to go. Same thing I've said, and I didn't say that first. It was interesting, but there was an article up on Natural News. I'll just cover it for a second, then we'll end with this article over on Lou Rockwell. But it was supposedly NASA's prepping to put a nuclear reactor on the moon.

Speaker 2:

That's what they say, and you wonder why these stories come out. There's always like, oh, it's going to be 2020, oh, it's going to be 2024, oh, it's going to be 2027. So much wrong with that. But uh, they don't know that the moon is flat. So, the moon's flat. You heard it here first. They don't know that the moon is flat. The moon's flat. You heard it here first on the Arterburn Radio transmission. I need to get a flat moon shirt. That would be a good one. The moon is flat. Actually, I have to give credit. My friend Harrison Smith tweeted that years ago and that made me chuckle and I've remembered it ever since.

Speaker 2:

Let's jump over to Lou Rockwell, because I'm losing some time here. This hour goes by fast, doesn't it? All right, let's put Lou Rockwell up. I try to cover the most hard-hitting economic and parapolitical news. I can fit into an hour Virtually commercial-free, although I'll try to plug LewRockwellcom.

Speaker 2:

80 years after the atomic bombs, it says, with unconscionable carnage and up to 85 million deaths, the second world war was the greatest catastrophe in history and since, in a sense, the atomic bombs were an apt climax to that orgy of butchery. This is by jd green from the premium insights. I thought it was very well done. He quotes Russell Kirk. He says it will not be long before we are reduced to savagery. We are the barbarians in our own empire. That's the conservative writer, russell Kirk, who was friends with Pat Buchanan, one of his mentors.

Speaker 2:

He said 80 years ago today, the US government committed one of the awful acts in human history. Three days later it did it again. Harry Truman insisted. The decision to vaporize or fatally eradicate almost a quarter of a million civilians plus a dozen American prisoners of war was his and his alone. Whether he meant as an acknowledgement or a confession, this assertion was correct. The buck stopped with him. It was Harry Truman who literally gave him hell. That was a give him hell. Harry. The president assured the world, and presumably his conscience, that he had no choice. Proud and stubborn, the Japanese would never surrender. Nuclear weapons were the only way to end the war, in a sense like an abortionist convincing himself his victims aren't really human. Truman had to believe that, otherwise what would his actions say about him? Most Americans seem to accept his argument.

Speaker 2:

Retroactive propaganda argued by the destruction of two sizable cities saved up to a million lives that would have been lost invading the islands. Besides, the japs had it coming for bombing pearl harbor, this is. But which Japs? Leave aside FDR's pre-war actions intended to entice a Japanese attack, hiroshima and Nagasaki were filled with half a million civilians who had no say in what their government did. Were those the Japs that had it coming, and why? Almost four years earlier, 2,400 Americans died on the date which will live in infamy, that was december 7 1941. Most were in the navy, plus over 200 in the army, about a hundred marines and 68 civilians. Nearly half the dead were on the uss. Arizona government officials in tokyo and dc needed needed to answer for that. But did the mothers, infants and elderly of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How many of them picked the fight, gave the orders, flew the planes and dropped the bombs that killed Americans that morning in Hawaii?

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Dastardly as Pearl Harbor was, the attack was obviously trained on military targets. Atomic bomb advocates, including truman, suggested hiroshima and nagasaki were too prosperous. Akin to wiping out waikiki because pearl harbor was near honolulu, truman grasped for more straws on the day nagasaki was obliterated. The president defended the first bombing by saying hiroshima was an industrial center but its major factories set far from the bullseye at the center of the city and little boy, the other name for the bomb, left those largely unscathed. And just a side note here, I learned from my friend James Perloff, who wrote Truth is a Lonely Warrior, that Nagasaki was, he believes, targeted because it was the major Christian epicenter in Japan. It was like the center of Christianity in Japan. As historian Ralph Ryko wondered, if Hiroshima was such a vital military target, why was it untouched by years of air raids and excluded from Bomber Command's list of 33 primary targets After the firebombing of Tokyo and Dresden earlier that year?

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Officials' angst over innocent life carries little credibility. The US government clearly had few qualms about killing civilians. Truman was caught chuckling during his announcement of the Hiroshima bombing at the 2.30 mark. I'm not going to play it right now, just for lack of time. Just for lack of time. The president did acknowledge some compunction. During an inadvertent confession he contemplated a third bomb, or projected the idea. As he put it to his cabinet the day after nagasaki.

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The thought of wiping out another hundred thousand people, including all those kids this is quotes, quotes was quote too horrible to contemplate. The president was well aware the numbers of innocents he was killing, including all those kids. But did the quarter million dead Japanese save a million Americans or millions, as President George HW Bush once ludicrously claimed? I've always heard that argument. I thought that it was ridiculous if you actually just dig deep into the history and where we were. But I think the most ludicrous thing that George HW Bush ever said was that the wingman for the Japanese and he said this, I believe, on the. Was it the, that would have been the 50th anniversary of Pearl Harbor he said that the wingman for the Japanese was the America First Movement. That was the wingman for the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. That was the most ludicrous thing he ever said.

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Again, the article continues it's astounding that anyone accepts this, but for decades it's what Americans have been taught. They're expected to believe that an invasion of Japan would have cost as many lives as the war between the states and more American loss than every other theater of the second world war combined. Worst case scenarios for a nipponese d-day come to fewer than 50 000 american debt. The estimate approaching the us death toll in vietnam is obviously horrific, but it's still unrealistic. An An invasion was never necessary to compel Japan to give up. Well, that's what I always thought and that's why I thought it was so strange and we'll get into this as we finish the article Trump was tweeting.

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We live in such a this is the clown world order that we live in that Trump's tweeting out, or truthing out, you know, unconditional surrender, in all caps, with exclamation points and like does he even know that? And that was about Iran. I mean, we've been through such mind warfare, ladies and gents, together, and we'll try to keep it, try to keep the analysis sound and without any of that interference from whatever the hell that was. It's still in my head as citizens of China, enemy prisoners of war, and the peoples of Pacific archipelagos will attest. The Japanese military was vicious and barbaric, but by 1945, despite its persistent pride and notorious intransigence it was on the cusp of defeat. The imperial government knew it and it was prepared to capitulate.

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As Stanford professor Barton Bernstein related in a New York Times article preceding a Smithsonian exhibit commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, neither the atomic bomb nor the entry of the Soviet Union into the war forced Japan's unconditional surrender. She was defeated before either of these events took place. Weren't Barton's words? He was quoting what Brigadier General Bonnie fellers wrote to General Douglas MacArthur soon after vj day, as John Denson relayed in his terrific Anthology the cost of war. Another high-ranking military uh expressed similar sentiments. Among them was Admiral William Lathie, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs during the war. He says in my opinion, the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was no material success in our war against Japan. Former president and retired five-star general Dwight Eisenhower claimed with similar sentiment the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with such an awful thing. I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.

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Major General JFC Fuller described the bombings as a type of war that would have disgraced Tamerlane. He also dispensed with the common justification. Though to save a life is laudable, it in no way justifies the employment of means which run counter to every precept of humanity and the customs of war. Should it do so, then, on the pretext of shortening a war and saving lives, every imaginal atrocity can be justified. Well, I quoted Voltaire earlier today, just rattling around in my head, when I was on the David Knight show those that can make you believe absurdities can also make you commit atrocities. Dirtities can also make you commit atrocities. I'm seeing in the comments 804, marty says sounding great on the international short waves today. Tony Good, wwcr, worldwide Christian Radio. We're on the old Bill Cooper frequency frequency. This isn't the convenient clarity of 2020 hindsight. Skeptics were wearing corrective lenses many months before the enola gay left the runway. Of course, the enola gay is the plane that delivered the bomb.

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In january 1945, the japanese offered to surrender on terms virtually identical to those they accepted after Nagasaki. Macarthur informed FDR of this two days before the president left for Yalta. Leahy provided the information and Truman himself later corroborated. The US accepted the overture. Not only the devastation of the atomic bombs wouldn't have been avoided, but Iwo Jima and Okinawa wouldn't have occurred, sparing 20,000 American lives.

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Yeah, I've never understood the concept of unconditional surrender. Wouldn't you just want victory? What if you just had victory? What if you had the right kind of peace? And pushing for that is that Carthaginian peace, that scorched earth, that humiliation of your enemy. You can think of it in Machiavellian terms. All you want, you can be a neocon. You can think that, um, crush your enemy totally and all the rest. But it never really works that way.

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Because they did that in world war one and the Kaiser fled and they humiliated the German military. They put it in to disarray and they had the bolsheviks revolting and carrying out a bloodletting. In russia, communism was unleashed because of the bankers, the banksters, and then you had the concept of the dolch loss, the stab in the back, and a young, charismatic corporal starting a German workers party member. Number eight would soon take power. And that's how that works. You know, when you try to humiliate an enemy, only had an enemy.

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The japanese kept fighting only because the us required unconditional surrender. This destructive demand, which truman reiterated at potsdam, had prolonged the war in europe and extended fighting in the pacific. The japanese assumed those terms included dethroning the emperor, which they wouldn't abide. Truman knew this, yet insisted the bombs be dropped, not at the end of the war, which was happening anyway, but to send a message to someone else, less to subdue the Japanese than to signal to the Soviets. British scientist PMS Blackett, on one of Churchill's advisors, wrote that dropping the bombs was the first major operation of the Cold Diplomatic War with Russia. They were opening shots of the Cold War, with a quarter million innocents lined against the wall. It was years ago.

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I bought a book from Pat Buchanan, one of my heroes. I never got to talk to Pat. He doesn't do interviews anymore but I loved his work. I always will. He's one of the smartest men. It's history-wise and his writing skills I based a lot of my whenever I do write columns. I like the structure and the prose of Buchanan. He's somebody to be studied.

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But he wrote an autobiography back in the 80s. It was called Right From the Beginning and I always loved that. But he told a story about as a Catholic and a Christian being in Japan and he had this young Japanese woman waiting on him at a restaurant and it just occurred to him, you know, seeing how polite she was and just the kindness and everything of the people, and he had this overwhelming feeling of guilt and being an American and said that in his reflection this was a book written in the 1980s, folks that he said we had no right to do that. And I think, as a warrior, as if you subscribe to the warrior philosophy, as a warrior, as if you subscribe to the warrior philosophy, the technology, these hideous things that are produced and stored deep in these government basements and fortresses and other places and deep underground military installations, you know it is a sobering thought to see who actually controls them and what kind of character they have, and pray for peace, folks. That was the culmination of what happened at the last fourth turning. That was every 80 years or so. You have these major upheavals in civilization and there they're culminating in a fourth turning. Every turning is 20 years. So this is where we're 80 years on from this last event. The Romans called it a saclarum and other civilizations. See now that we have the whole world synced up at the same time. So we'll keep your eyes, your eyes open, keep your powder dry.

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All right, let's do spot prices and then get out of here. I appreciate everybody being here today. See, uh, I want to go back to the chat real quick. It says I've heard that all the purple heart medals that were given since World War II were made an exception, an expectation of the casualties projected in the invasion of Japan. That's interesting. I'll have to study that and see if that's accurate. All right, let's accurate. All right, let's go to spot prices. Gold, today trading up $3,389. Luciferian Bankster Notes, lbns Federal Reserve Notes per troy ounce $3,389.02 as of right now, up $17.13 since the opening bell. Silver $38.16 per troy ounce for the white metal. So we're starting to see those institutions, folks. We're starting to see that government balance sheets making a difference on silver. I believe it's physical delivery of silver and that's the russians included. The price of bitcoin 116 767, 116 767. Luciferian banks are known to make one bitcoin as of august 7th 2025.

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