Meeting After Years And Predictions

SPEAKER_00 0:19

All right, well, we are recording uh from the iconic studios in the UK. I'm talking to Richard Willett, and this has been six years in the making, and and Richard doesn't know that because I used to listen to him and my good friend Billy Ray Valentine on the Infinite Fringe, and I I thought, this is a smart guy. I'd like to talk to this guy. And um years later, we we've done a show. Done a couple of shows. And uh it just fortuitous. It's finally turned out. I I got here uh yesterday, was able to uh sit down with David Icke and uh of course you were with Iconic and all the great crew and everybody here, and and uh it just turned out we get to do a show. And unfortunately, it so much of what we talk about and have predicted uh has come true. And um I hope not all of it, because that's really bad. But we were just discussing in the hallway grabbing some coffee, and he said, Maybe we should talk about how uh pretty much anything that we predicted and all the stuff that we have gone into is coming to pass. And I said, Yeah, that's depressing. It is. Um so are you enjoying your apocalypse?

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Um I'm prepared. Emotionally prepared. If not, I haven't been stashing away any food. Probably should have been doing that bit. Emotionally, I think I'll be fine. Um it's funny, innit? It's it shouldn't be funny, and maybe that's a coping mechanism that I have that I find it kind of absurdly hilarious because it's it was a madhouse, but and to see things coming to pass and not even in a kind of roundabout way, in a direct, oh, we're we're we're gonna go and bomb around now, are we? Okay, right. That used to be a song taking off the Beach Boys songs, Bomb Bomb Bom Maran. Right, John McCain. Yeah, and now it's um was it John McCain? Well, I thought it was the Beach Boys, is it?

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Uh well the John John McCain, it's a parody, you know, because it's well because uh Beach Boys is actually Barbara Ann. Yes. Yeah, Barbara Ann, and then but but but John McCain is the one that came up. At least I think so. Uh he was at a dinner party. I think it was like two thousand and seven. I remember but see, but in my country. Yeah. Uh I guess wherever you are in the Western world, whoever gets elected, it's always John McCain. No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain.

Epstein Leads And Zorro Ranch Claims

Iran Escalation And Oil Shock Risk

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Well, you do, and and and Isumov, yeah. He so we're now we're well, we, and we can discuss that. The country that represents you, unfortunately, is now causing havoc in the Middle East, has been done for a long while. We're getting dragged into it. Obviously, even two and a half years ago, I was talking about the Epstein files and what might be under Zorro Ranch and what might be under um under his island, and putting that piece together with Juliet Bryant, who's a uh survivor of their saying she woke up paralysed and naked underneath Zora Ranch. And people like, what are you talking about? Two and a half years later, the FBI allegedly are raiding Zorro Ranch to see if there's anything to these things and dead girls, dead Polish girls, I think, in the hills and all sorts, and no one can find the guys that the Gordon um couple who ran it, basically they've just disappeared. So um it's these things are going into the mainstream now, and that's incredible to me. But that's also worrying is that you're playing playing catch-up. We know what's coming down the down the pike, and um I don't I don't think anyone's really who doesn't do this is prepared for the fact that they're bringing this carnage to your doorstep right here in the UK, in the Western world and the US. What do you what do you think? Like it it's similar worry to me.

Numerology And Ritual Signaling In Power

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Oh absolutely. I it's sobering. You know, there are always consequences, even if there wasn't a a vast um underlying conspiracy in so much of this, because you know, the surface level things you always hear, like um uh we're gonna have to hit Iran because they're building a nuclear weapon, right? And it's imminent. According to Benjamin, from the 80s, yeah. Uh it's imminent. I think we need to reclassify the word imminent. Uh might have to like redo that uh expectations of imminent uh and by the way, I mean, and people have short memories. And Gor Vidal said that we were the United States of amnesia, which I always remember. But if you recall, um and it happened to be on the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa, which was when the when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, which was June 22nd, 1941. That's when last year when we took out their facilities, right? But they love that. And I I guess I might be one of the only people that recognize hey, did you do that on purpose? Like, are we doing some weird like uh you know uh lineup of the calendar? Um But anyway, that was supposed to end the war. But now we're already back in it again. Um so even if you take that surface level explanation, it's still bad, but there's also um I think uh esoteric spiritual issues, occultic issues, uh energetic fields, and all the stuff that they're trying to pull off with this, it's almost like a ritual, Richard. It is a ritual.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

That's why with the numbers, I think you're totally right. And a classic example of that is 9-11, is that that's the seagull of san. In Roman numerals, that is the seagull of san. That's done on purpose. Revelations 9-11 is when the um Abaddon comes out of the bottomless pit. And I'm not a religious person, they're playing these biblical narratives out. Yes. I'm not saying that they're true, I'm saying they're playing them out. They clearly are. 9-11 was supposed to be when the first and second temple of Solomon was sacked. They're building the third temple. This is all done on purpose. Donald Trump is the 47th and 45th president, the 911 president. Yes. This has all been done on purpose. You're absolutely right, and even if we don't believe this stuff, they certainly do. So the fact that the previous thing that you mentioned was done on that date, 100% was, in my opinion, done on purpose.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

It's like a consecration. And this is consecration.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

I actually think that comes down to like almost like a digital input of them using as a code, like a binary code, like computer programming. They almost see it as a magical input of a code to use these numbers and dates to get things done because they're more powerful on there. There's something going on much deeper than people realise.

Is Trump Reading A Script

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Now, do you think you do you look at somebody like Donald Trump and say he'd be able to follow what we're saying? Do you think he knows this, or is that he's just getting a script and somebody above him?

SPEAKER_02 7:26

I think Trump would know. You think so? Because he was born into it with his father, who was an uh an absolute sociopath, was well in with the same guys that he's in with now in Brooklyn and all of these guys building synagogues and stuff like that, these Sabbath and Frankists, they were called Drumpf. I think he's been brought into, I think he's a lifelong cult asset cult member, bowed up by a um group of bankers that were organized by the Rothschilds. He's Jesuit educated. A lot of people don't know that, but Trump was Jesuit educated, so was Wilbur Ross, um, Anthony Tauchy, um, also Bill Gates, ex-husband, wife, um Jesuit. The double. I think he would know. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 8:11

I I have days where I just wonder exactly what he is. Uh it's either he's uh and a magnificent actor. You know what's so bizarre too, and and I've studied him for years, bef way before he ran for office, because I was fascinated with some of his um his business skills, or I put that in quotations if I can. Yeah. But um some of his philosophies, and now I look back on it and I start laughing because I don't really match up the intellect with the writing, you know, because I used to like there was a book that he wrote uh just after uh Obama was elected for the first term, and uh it's called Think Like a Champion. Right. Okay. Now if you go back and read it, it was um it's obviously it's ghostwritten, but I didn't really know that he wasn't uh cap I don't think he r obviously Tony Schwartz wrote the art of the deal, you know, that story. But um in that book he you know he talks about in the opening chapter, and you go back and look at this, and I just thought of this the other day, he was saying how fortuitous it was that oil was forty dollars a barrel. Right because he was like, well, at least we got that. He was like, because the economy had taken a hit after the subprime uh you know mortgage collapse in the US 08-09, so that's when Obama comes in. So I was just thinking about that the other day. Like that was his opening premise to a book that he released. But here we are in 2026. He knows if you hit Iran that the Strait of Hormuz is gonna close, and that's 20% of the world's output for that area for for crude oil. And obviously it skyrockets above$110 a barrel as we sit today, and that's such a strain on the civilized world. Everybody is gonna have to uh pay more for everything, you know. He knows this. So I just I have so many questions, Richard. And you you know, there there's some great acting that's gone on the those in charge, like the pageant that is put in front of us, and it's hard to tell what is real, like what is like genuine, organic life happening, and then what is the script. I think they've they so sew them up together that I don't claim that I know the difference really. I just know that they do there there is something, whatever the ruling class is, whatever you want to call them, the parasite class. They I they run on a different um set of rules than you are. I it's like Benjamin Disraeli wrote that book um why you know just before he became prime minister. You know what I'm talking about, where he's you know, um uh he said something about uh there's a different set of rules behind the the curtains than you and I see, you know, and this is something he's describing as a politician in Britain.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Yep.

Psychopathy And Transactional Rulebooks

SPEAKER_00 11:02

And uh I've that's always stuck with me as well. Like he was trying to show you that even though you can climb to the top of the ladder, you're still subject to rules that are not seen by the public. You're still subject to that thing.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

I think the lack of rules is massive. To the point where you're saying behind the curtain, the lack of rules compared to the rules that we live and abide by is a golf world. Like a psych psychopath can live by the rules, a sociopath can live by the rules. Very little difference between the two. Um but they don't feel the rules, they can abide by them if it suits them. So it's an input-output scenario. So look at say Elon Musk, the best way to describe it, doge was a waste, getting rid of waste. Well, it was about energy, input-output. I wanted to get more output from the input because one, he's on the autistic spectrum, so he sees things in binary. These people, sociopaths, see things on uh binary terms, so they'll see things as is how can I get this person to act in a way to get more out of them? They're a useful cog in a system that they want to control, like so. That's what we are to them. So the rules are are you getting more out than you're putting in? That's the way they see everything, that's their black and white thinking, they don't really feel it. Now, some people on the lower end, I think, of the psychopathic and the sociopathic spectrum. I'm not a psychologist, but as a filmmaker for years and years studying this stuff, you'd get to know people. Um, I'm not diagnosing anyone, but these people will look at it and say, the people on the lower end of the spectrum will have to abide by certain rules because they're not above the law. But once you're above the law, creating the laws, Donald Trump, obviously he if they push him back down, he would have to abide by those laws. But at the moment, because he's playing ball, he knows that he can get away with things like murdering 20,000 children in Gaza and not blink an eye. I think he's totally mentally destroyed. But the point is that when you get above the law, a point way beyond that, behind the curtain, what rules are you playing with? And your only thing is gain, profit. What am I putting in and what am I getting out? In everything is transactional, and that's where we're going with the transhumanist world because these people are creating the world in their image. So I think we need to get into the real my new show, Psycho Babble, it's all about connecting the conspiracy world and the true crime world because they're they go hand in hand and they often miss out in true crime podcasts and true crime um stuff. I mean, it sounds like I'm going off on a tangent, but there is a point in this. No, I love this.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

You were talking about this yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Yeah, and this is the point is you can't understand Charles Manson's murders if you can't understand the occult of why they may have happened. If you get rid of all the occult information, the murders sound like murders, like he's gone psychotic. But there is a s a satanic cult behind this. So getting back to what you're talking about, Trump, he's surrounded by a messianic sect. Jared Kushner's part of it. Elon Musk, Elon Musk is slightly involved with it, but you've got Malay involved with this sabotean Frankist sect that are openly talking about at the end time stuff. Netanyahu openly falls at their feet. Putin's even got a Habad rabbi. So we don't understand this background, this mentality, you're not understanding how these people mentally function. Therefore, what they're doing doesn't make sense, the context isn't there. But most people won't go that far. This isn't politics, this is ideologies and psychopathy. I call it as a trauma bomb going off over years and years and years. So I think the best thing we can do as as guys who are conspiracy theorists, journalists, we are journalists, is get people to understand the psychopathy of these people. We're not dealing with me and you. We're not and whether Trump was once like us and gradually over time was made into what he is now, because you've just pointed out really interestingly that he wrote something in his book, and years and years later he's doing the exact opposite.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Well, and that the yeah, and I'm glad you reminded me. But the point I was going to make from that is if you reverse the timeline, you go and look at him, and even some of his interviews and we're talking about a different human being. And I know everybody on a long enough timeline, you know, as you age you become different and and your speech becomes a little different, but not I mean, you're talking drastically. You're polar opposites. I mean, even you know, another example of that, because I grew up in Texas, is George W. Bush. If you go back and look when he ran for office, like ran for governor when I was about fourteen, a little bit younger, like early 1990s, he was so well spoken. And I don't know what happens when you run for press. So I there is the argument that something happens to them or they um have to follow a certain dialect or speak a certain way. I mean, I'm open to it because it is so bizarre. Yeah. And you know, now we're we're in this we're in this situation where it is so bad. And you talked about the psychopathy. We first of all, most people don't know. I was texting with my dad last night, and I was like, you know, the uh we're talking about uh Netanyahu, and I just he is I mean, he's literally a demon. I mean, I'm just looking at this man like or whatever he is, this entity. Um, because uh the way he's acting and the the the the actions that he's taking, and if you look at what's behind the philosophy of these end timers, first of all, they they feel like they're supplanting God's will. Like if you re if you subscribe to the book of Revelation or end times, that's one thing. But if you're trying to make it happen, and then these uh and my dad's like, well, uh these the Christian Zionists don't really know. Well, that's their fault for not digging a little deeper or thinking, you know, given the if you believe in God, why don't you use the brain he gave you uh to suss this out. But if you think about it, if you really boil it down, what they're trying to do, at least on the surface level, and you're and I want you to explain a little bit about the Sabbath and Francus, because I've I know what you're talking about. Most people don't. Like even on even if they following us for the most part, if you don't mention it enough, because there's some good background there, but what the the whole purpose of them trying to summon the Antichrist. Now if you think about that, you have Peter Thiel out there giving lectures on the Antichrist, they're obsessed with this, and I think they really want to meet him, you know, like so it's not about for the for the Christians on the you know, this one side you have those who are like, well, if we can just build this and get the Antichrist, then and there's Armageddon, then Jesus will return. Do you realize how psychotic that is? That's so weird.

Sabbatean Frankism And Infiltration Theory

SPEAKER_02 18:10

Just have Holocaust. It's so weird. It's like if I set myself on fire, bury myself, then you know, annihilate myself, then Jesus can come back and put me back together and make me whole again. Yeah. Don't do the first bit. You're all right. Doesn't make sense, does it? It really doesn't make sense. And um, this is where the sabotean stuff comes from. But people need to remember look at Habad Lubavitch. That's just an example of one very prominent sect that's around these politicians now. I would say that these aren't Jewish. I would say these are Sabbatean Frankists at the very top of Chabad. Not all that are involved with Habad. That's not the way this functions. It doesn't function that way. It functions in a way that they go in with within, which is what Sabbatanism does. Sabotage. It's a virus. So Sabbatean Francists are in all three of the major faiths. You've got Don May in Muslim, Muslim faith, crypto and crypto-Jewish, and you get crypto-Christians as well. Same thing. They're not really practicing the faith they say are. So that's why they speak all these things and do the opposite. That's why Trump can speak all these things and do the opposite. He's not Christian, he's a Sabbatean Frankist. It's obvious he's doing everything for this Sabbatean cult wanted to bring about. So if you look into Sabbateanism, started in the 1600s with Sabbatise Evi, thought he was the Messiah, he was a lunatic, psychotic maniac. Um, and then that carried on. Um actually he was forced to turn um Muslim, which became Don May because they actually carried on doing the same satanic weird stuff in the background. Um, and you've got to remember this is before the internet, you know, these are groups of people that could keep secrets a lot easier than they can keep secrets now. It's a different world. Then 100 years later, you had Sabotay Zevi that picked up the mant um sorry, you had Jacob Frank picked up the mantle from Sabotay Zevi and made it even worse. He brought in redemption through sin, inverted everything, the sa the satanic principles. He was friends with Adam Weishop, he was friends with um one of the Rothschilds, and they kind of carried this over into the Asiatic Brotherhood because Jacob Frank was the I think the uncle of one of the guys who started the Asiatic Brotherhood. That fitted all into Europe. This whole disease of pretending to be something that you're not. It's psychotic, it's exactly what a psychopath does, but they're doing the inversion. So they're using the Jewish faith as a shield, and they call it the Kelleypotic shield, as a husk, like a homunculous husk. They're in the middle, but what they do is that they get themselves in the middle of a group of people, so when you attack them, they're shielded. Because they're doing it on behalf of these people. Actually, you've got to realize that the the nucleus of what's driving this madness is not the outward sh the outer shell. They literally call it well, they don't call that a calepotic shell, but that's what it is in their own cabbalistic madness. So that's a brief overview of what they're like. They are infiltrators, they are Mossad, they are MI5, they are MI6, they are within all of these organizations. KGB, Lord Victor Rothschild was likely the fifth man of the Cambridge Five. So you have all of these Sabbath and Frankists that are not Jewish, they're not Muslim, they're not Christian, they are a religion of their own, which is an inverted satanic ideology of redemption through sin, which you've just mentioned, doing all these bad things to bring about God. It's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

I'm gonna do a horrific stuff to force God's hand because it's not happening quick enough. And therefore, in the end, I'm doing a good thing, really, because we're gonna end up in the you know, a thousand years with Christ or the Messiah, then we're gonna have Olam Habar or the new world, the new earth, whatever they want to call it, it's the same thing for uh in the eighth day. So now we're you look at Randy Five. He's wearing a hat with 5,786 or 85 on it. He thinks we're in that year. And by the 6,000th year, they need to have this agenda in place. Gives us 200 years. That's why they're speeding up. He is really good friends with Trump. Trump's in with Habad Lubavitch for Jared Kushna and his wife. I'm sorry, his daughter of Anka. You've got Chabad Lubavitch in with um Netanyahu for decades. Openly. You've got Putin who's got a Chabad rabbi, Lazar. You've got Malay in with Habad Lubovich. You've got RFK Jr. in with Habad rabbis. You've got every one of these guys can be connected back to what I would say is a crime syndicate, not a religious faith. They're using that as a shield. And I am confident enough to say that religious men of the Jewish faith would not have these ideologies that they're bringing about. Now there's one thing to say we are the chosen people and God's going to come back and choose us and we're going to live in one thing to say that. Most religions say that that we are the chosen ones or we've chosen to follow the chosen one. If you're going to allow it to happen, that's one thing. I haven't got a problem with that because I don't believe it'll ever happen. But if you're making it happen by killing 70,000 Palestinians and 165 kids in Iran, there's something really wrong with you. There's something deeply, deeply wrong with you. And that's the people that are leading your country into a war with Iran that could literally kick us off into World War III, probably in it already. And the UK is trying to stay out of it to a certain degree for whatever reason, and I'm sure there are darker reasons, and I think what we're doing here is they're trying to play the UK off against the US and split the split that up. So I think there's a deeper, darker reason for that. I agree. But we are getting people like that who believe in this stuff leading the world into a hellhole, thinking they are repairing the world, which they call it Tekan Olam, which is to repair the world. Redestroying the world.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

It's alchemy. There's also um a long time ago I I started referencing moments like this where you look at the the war in Vietnam that we that my country had. And there was this famous line from a general who said we had to destroy the village in order to save it.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

What was his explanation for that?

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Well, that was the law like in order to save it from the communists, you know, in order to save it, we had to destroy the village. And that mentality um in a certain part of militaristic people, and I I come from the from the military, I'm a veteran and uh proudly, but uh I'm also someone who believes in the sanctity of of human life and that we're spiritual beings and that um there there should be um there should be a class of people always trying to promote life and protect because it you look if you're if you're not part of um if you can't actually protect people, if you don't stand up to what's happening now, you're pretty much useless. And uh you mentioned the division between the United States and and Great Britain. I think part of this is just, you know, I was talking to David yesterday and we were just discussing how this just a Trump is a chaos agent that is ripping apart the old structure and just to replace it with something else, and that something else isn't good. I mean, so some of the old alliances are breaking down. Do you know what keeps me up at night sometimes is the I read history and I know you do too, but previous generations they got us into some pretty cataclysmic shit. Okay. But they were smarter.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

So like you look at World War One and um you look at like the the statesmen that allowed war World War I to happen, they were um multilingual, had classical educations, very well thought. They were thoughtful. There was there was you know dignified meetings and exchanges and real politics and like what I just said, most of the people that represent my country they don't even know what I just said. Yeah. Okay. Um and I know this from experience because I ran for office and I've been in the circles of some of these folks, and I I was surprised at how little they actually know. But we ha they got and that was a cataclysm, and they walked right into it. Now we've got dumber and more arrogant people with nuclear weapons.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

And a religious idea. And the religious and the people then behind it. And not only hidden behind it, actually promoted as a positive thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Have you ever have you ever read the poem from William Butler Yates?

SPEAKER_02 27:06

That means a bell. Yep, I think so. Go on if you can remember it.

Iran 1953 Coup To Today’s Tech Levers

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Well, it's it's a it's about the opening to and walking into World War One. And I mean, I can't really recite it off the top of my head, but it's it it's uh he asks in the poem, What rough beast, it's our come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born. And he's talking about the the Antichrist. Yeah. Okay. Which is always a goal somehow of the people that want to bring us into a war. And you know, for the the foundations in the money class, and I know we're going back to World War I, but it's important because it kind of sets the tone for everything here. Like we never civilization was doing pretty well until they put us on that track, and then we just keep getting drawn into these cycles. But you know, it was the Carnegie Foundation that and you I know you you know this, but they they were doing really well. They had all this money, and they're like, We gotta do these social changes, you know, we gotta do socialism. And what's the best way? So they have this Carnegie Foundation sets up this think tank, and they said, Well, this is br prior to like 19, it's like 1910 or 1911. And they said, Well, well, the best way to do all these massive social changes is to get into a war. And then they said, Okay, well, how do we do that? And then the next thing you know, we're in World War One. So, you know, the genesis of these things, and there's always a consequence, but you know, uh I just did a podcast on um the United States when we overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran, Mosadeh, in 1953.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

And I tried to explain to people about that um three weeks ago in a in a video. This started because yeah, they had a democratically elected leader who wanted to nationalise their oil and it pissed off the West. So in they went with the CIA, MI6, caused havoc and put in the Shah. And the Shah brought in the Savok Police Force. Right. And who do they want to put back in now? And although he's coming round the side, is Baby Shah. I call him Baby Shah. Baby Shah. Baby Shah and Daddy Shah. And he will bring in now the Savok Police State has all the technology they ever wanted to really have a police state, because Elon Musk and Donald Trump in February smuggled in 6,000 Starlink satellites illegally because Starlink is illegal in Iran. And guess who are using the Starlink satellites? Not only the guys um the general public are legally using it at their own detriment, but uh Handala, who are a um hacker group who are hackering, hacking allegedly, the uh governments of Israel. So the tech guys are getting themselves in the middle here. And who does Trump take his money from? Elon Musk, Peter Till. Palantir. It's a stitch up. It's a stitch up. You've got and they all have uh these ideologies behind them as well. You've got these so many different puzzle pieces moving around. You've got the technology coming in today that can uh uh create uh the um cooperation, the ability to run the world in the ideology of these messianic lunatics. The beast system can be created now because the technology is there and these guys believe in the ideology of this messianic age. You can see the two coming together. Before we didn't that the technology wasn't there to run it on a global scale, as you say it is now, and these people are utter lunatics, and what I worry about is that they're selling it to the Christians as a good thing, they're selling it to the Jews as a good thing, they're selling it as to the to the Muslims as a this is Armageddon coming on, they're selling this big fight night feel. We're all gonna get in there and no, you're gonna get there and punch yourselves to death whilst these guys are laughing, because none of these guys, I don't actually believe at the very top, believe any of this stuff. They see it as a weapon, a tool. I don't think they believe these ideologies, but what they do believe in is their own power to play God on this planet. I don't think they believe in a god, I think they believe in their own godly nature.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

They're trying to cull humanity using its worst uh attributes against itself.

Faith Versus Religion And The Rapture Idea

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Yeah. And also that drops your karma. You've done it to yourselves. If only you'd have been smart enough to figure it out, only if you listen to the Tony Artburn on his show, eh? You know what I mean? It's it's like to me, it's like blatantly obvious. Blatantly obvious. You've got a a guy who's running Palantir and Starlink who have got messianic uh ideologies, and one's got autism, and the other one probably has two. And you've got Habad Lubovich, who have won openly tell you they want to build a third temple, and they say on their website, Tony, that they want it to be a broadcasting and transmitter system on their website. What do you think that's gonna be? It's the beast system, it's Starlink, it's the cloud, it's the internet of all things, the internet of bodies. They will tell you, but they're laughing, like a psychopath will tell you because they want to, they want to tell you, they want you, they like teasing you, they love, they love it. And I'm talking about the very top, and I'm talking well over Donald Trump. And if you ask who they are, for me personally, I will say the black nobility bloodlines will go way back, but I'm sure there's people I've never heard of. I'm sure there are absolutely people I've never heard of that could be working in your co-op and you wouldn't know. In uh insane, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Yeah, the the the mixture of faith and Armageddon and uh the worst parts of faith. Like the worst parts of faith are the end time prophecy, you know, end of the world, uh, end of humanity, the ushering, the messianic stuff.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

But do you see faith because I see faith and religion as two different things. I think people who've got faith, in my opinion, are brave. Faith is to me, is a faith in humanity and the goodness of the world. Oh, I agree. Faith in people, faith in the good of religion, of what it can bring. I feel faith and religion are slightly different. What do you think about the thing?

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Well, it's I right. This is the point, I think, of those terms get blended, and we don't even mean to. Like we we're talking about like where I come from and you know, out out of uh Northeast Texas, there's this lot of evangelical Christianity, and because of things like the Schofield Bible, uh, you know, and people like John Darby of the 19th century, like a QAnon for the I mean for the 19th century in a big way was the rap the concept of the rapture.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

The rapture, like that is really interesting, isn't it? Because I've pointed the rapture. That's okay, in today's parlance, that's an upload your brain to the cloud.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Yes. And it's also like a it's almost like um you separate the consequences of if you push for the end times, that's where they get these modern day Christians to be like, Well, I won't be here, I'll get lifted up into the cloud, you know, and so for the rest of us.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

It's not very Christian, is it?

SPEAKER_00 34:39

No, it's the worst, it's the worst kind of selfish, like it in I'll set the house on five of them.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

No consequences.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

It also you know what it also does, Richard, and I've I've observed this my whole life. And I've always been ostracized. I never, even from a very young age, and I grew up uh being taught, you know, that America exists to support Israel. Like that's what evangelical Christians believe. Like if you really boil it down, it's like the whole purpose of the Republic and George Washington and you know, Bunker Hill and the beaches at Normandy, everything, all the Civil War, it's all like all that blood and treasure and strife and the Constitution, it's all to make sure that Israel exists.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Do they did they meet did they speak that that openly like that? Or is that just uh something that you kind of everybody's aware of, but no one talks about?

SPEAKER_00 35:30

It it's it can be open like that. Okay. They don't use those words, but I I try to get them to suss it out. Like you're telling me, like, oh well, you know, this is what we have to support it, it's God's chosen people, and they don't know what I know, you know. But I I just had this gut feeling from a very young age that that was just complete BS, we were being misled. It sounded vulgar. It just sounded wrong, and anyway, it just smacked wrong. So that what I always wanted to know was when are we going to talk about what actually what did Jesus say? Like what did he live? What was the point of this faith? You know, but it's it's so much of it's hijacked, Richard, and I think and people they didn't fight for uh making a better country or making a better civilization or making a better life because they're taught that the world's coming to an end, you're gonna be raptured out, so you get a get out of jail free card, you're good, you can't do anything. It's I it's QAnon. You know Trust the plan. Trust the plan. Get your popcorn. This is QAnon for for God instead of it's Trump, which is kind of to a lot of people, it's the same thing, you know. Um we live in some we live in some really interesting times, though. People have lost their absolute mind.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

They really have. That is one of the things I've been pointing out is to back up what you've just said, is that um Jared Kushner, no, sorry, it wasn't Jared Kushner, it was Trump, one of the Trumps, Trump Jr., not the tall Nephilim one, the other one. Um Nephilim. Um the other one. Um he uh posted on his Instagram account a picture of his so it's it's him posting it, it's his of his dad, and his dad's head was look he was looking in the mirror, so you can see it was Donald Trump's body, but they had the head of a goat, not joking, with a red tie on it. So that's the scapegoat. That's the biblical scapegoat to take away all the sins of Israel, place them on the Christians, on the Western world, so they offer that scapegoat and it runs off the cliff. So Donald Trump's leading his Christian followers who because he's Sabbatean Frankist and he's he's not Jewish. You know they call that a Judas goat. You know what a Judas goat is? Well, I do now, yeah. I never heard of that before.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Well, actually, it's a real term. The the the Judas goat, of course, you know, Judas and the the that betrays Christ, you know. But a Judas goat is a real thing. It's it's one of the goats they'll use to lead other goats into the slaughterhouse and then route back out. So that if they follow that goat, then the other goats will go with them.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

And why do they follow that goat?

SPEAKER_00 38:17

He's like a leader, like is it has he got something on it?

SPEAKER_02 38:20

Has he got a red tie on it? But it might be.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Oh yeah, you know what? That's a good question. Why do they? I think it's just uh they recognize that goat as uh it's going in there, but when that goat gets in, they let that goat out and he goes back and gets more.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Right. So this is a proper into the gas chambers thing, isn't it? And this is what Trump is, and he knows it. Like now, look at his dead eyes, he's done. He's he's done.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

Yeah, it's he's gonna it's pretty apparent. Like I I just looked at a picture of I mean, obviously you get the worst from the media, but uh the on Drud the Drudge Report, and I'm like, you know, you the this is the consequence of narcissism as well. Like there's also that built into it. Like, you know, he has to be right. And um but you notice the one uh people he never like the person he never um bashes, he never goes after is Netanyahu. Of course he won't. He everybody else. I mean everybody else. Prime ministers, kings, it doesn't matter, uh CEOs, actors. But that and if you notice, that's the one he won't touch that. And you know, they gave him did you notice the the where they gave uh Netanyahu gave Trump a golden pager?

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Yeah, yeah. Remember that for blowing up people in in was it is it right? Or was it Lebanon?

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Is that well but you the pager went off? Well yeah, so is Massad carried out a major operation across the Middle East killing Hezbollah and other leaders with these pagers. And children.

SPEAKER_02 39:49

Because he went off near innocent people in markets, but yes, but they can they killed him.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

And that was um so they get you know, that was that gesture they gave Trump a golden pager. I remember it, yeah. And I and only a small fraction of people, like a fraction of that actually pay attention were like, that's a threat. Yeah. Of course it is. Like you how could you not perceive that as a threat? I even Tucker Carlson like he he saw that as a threat. So I just um I don't know, Richard.

Independent Media Pressure And Narrative Hijacks

SPEAKER_02 40:19

It's well it's it's a strange world because uh you mentioned Tucker there, and um he is calling out Habad now. Candy Sewings did it a while back as well, so and then with the stuff I'm talking about with Zorro Ranch, I know when you look at the Daily Mail two weeks ago, ran the whole story, it's basically like just copy and paste of my substack. Um, we are having an effect, they're having to acknowledge some of the things we're talking about. Now I don't trust Tucker and I don't trust Candy, so I don't think you get to that level. Obviously, you've got the CIA and and other things involved without the Catholic Church, um, that element of it. So I'm not saying that they're good guys, I think they're hijacking the narrative, but they're having to respond to what the likes of me and you, David, many others that have got bigger channels than I'll ever have, are doing. They are listening because this is and now it's filtering through to the mainstream media. So I don't want people to feel like you're not having an effect because they are in a they are in the ring with us and they are they are responding to what we're doing because their content is coming out weeks and weeks later, months later.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

That's that's the thing, is when you talk about this kind of stuff and and you bring in awareness and you're doing like great journalism like you do with your channel. I'm I'm more of a you know, I'm uh a radio guy and I I like to talk about ideas. I do a lot of stuff in precious metals and other things, you know, from the monetary sense. But no, you're you're absolutely right, and you have to celebrate a a bit when it does hit, and people do have epiphanies and they do have awakenings, and um you know you have to go, well, why is why'd it take you so long? But anyway, they're here. So, you know, I think those are the small wins that you know a lot of people in this space, it's just dark, no one it's all bad, it never works.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

It really isn't. You win a war like you know, you in the military, I haven't got a clue. Um but you win a war through through through multiple battles, smaller battles culminate. I said to Ga Jay this morning, like he was feeling a bit down by this, and I know David sometimes gets a level like that. I don't see it by the way. I see is that every time we put something out, you put something out, Billy Ray puts something out, Charlie Robinson puts something out. The group of us that do this lower, like on those lower background that really are pushing the boundaries the Whitney Webbs of the world, Johnny Vedmores. I mean, we don't all have to get on, but it there's a lot of Gareth and Jamie and Ike, and many, many, many others. Wayne McCroy, someone I'm I'm a big follower of, is a great guy. Um doing great work and doesn't get the credit he deserves for the clever stuff that he comes out with. Um loads of people, Christopher John Bjirtness, his stuff with the Kabbalah. What I feel like we're doing is laying these traps for the future because all these people can do is prove us right, and the power of being proven right echoes down the generations, so it might be 50, 60 years, but if we don't do something now, those like a minefield, this cult has to go through the minefield because it has to go to that end, because we know that's where they're going. We're laying traps for them in the future to prove us right, and then it's up to the world to go, actually, these people were telling the truth. Imagine if I'm right about, I'm not saying I am right, but about Zora Ranch and there's facilities underneath, and they are connected to Dulcie Base and they are connected to the Tremontina site of spiritual technology, which is um Scientology, and L. Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons were doing the Alistair Crowley's Babylon work in ritual in New Mexico. We know all this stuff. If this stuff is all about the homunculus, well, the information's out there now. So once they start to do it, they're proving us right. And I see articles in The Daily Mail that having to go a bit into the conspiracy world is shit we've left behind. That's what we're doing. We're planning a battle for the future. We're building these traps for this cult to fall into in the future. So I don't see any of it as happening right now. I see, look, we've got your number, and all you can do is prove us right in the end. I won't be here to see it, but I guarantee I'll be watching down laughing my ass off. Because that's for our kids. That's for our grandkids. That's for that this isn't about stopping it now. This is about not letting it get to that point because they have to go down that road. They have to, because that's the play, and we've figured it out. So the real optimism I have is that we've got their number, the time isn't there, but they are running out of time, and we're not. We're getting to the point where they have to prove us right. It's the way I see it. Maybe I'm mental. No, I love this. But it's so much more better than going, oh, we're all gonna blow each other up. It's like, hang on a minute, we do have a chance here because we've loaded the traps. David has spent 30 years laying the foundations for what we can do now.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

It's not wasted, it's amazing, it's incredible. If people like us have managed to get together to do this stuff and figure out a plan of these people that are supposed to be highly intelligent, when they're not, are they? Because we figured it out. You want to build a new temple, you want to bring about biblical end times, you want to create a clockton cyber prison across the world, and you want to run everyone off their digital currency and off their we know what you're doing, and you can only prove us right. So the more people will wake up to what you're doing and go, we're not having that, there's not enough of them, and there's so many of us. So I feel like sorry, I just I'm passionate about people that feel sad about I'm like, no, you've done the job. This is the work. It just means you're getting your kids are getting paid in the future. Not us. But what would what do we want? We won't be here for much longer anyway. Well, I well, you're a year older than me. So like I probably you got longer than me, you're in much better condition than I am. You think so? Yeah.

Changing Consciousness Without Violence

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Looks are deceiving. Well, I don't I think we look a lot. It's the mind.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

We've got the same eyes. I think so.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

I'm not saying that's very true.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Um you know it's funny, like if you change consciousness, you could change the world. If people just stop participating, you don't need it doesn't have to be an armed revolution. There doesn't have to be a war about it. There doesn't have to be any. You if you ch you really can change the world through changing consciousness, and everybody tries to do this external thing. And that's where politics. What did um was it Samuel Johnson that said um patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Right? So you get like politics and other things draws in people. And like sociopaths love that stuff, and narcissists and um and I ran for office. I don't know what that makes me. I don't I didn't really want power power more than I wanted to uh fight for ideas, of course. Right? Which is there's a total of different things. Like the people that win them generally love the power and like the they're able to maneuver things for their own interests, whereas I always wanted to do something that was talking like talk about the big ideas. I like people like Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan. He never held office, but he worked for presidents, and I always thought that was a a way to fight for ideas was to be in the public arena, but I like what we do better. And I think like when we have these kind of talks, and if if you just reach some like if you reach one person, they remember our talk and they say, Well, that was really deep. And I I I now I can't look at the news the same, or uh and I don't really see you know, like you start it's a cascading effect because I've had people obscure podcasts I listen to, I'm like, you know what? I never think about that the same again.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

Yeah, it echoes down the generations, echoes down the generations is really important. So as an obscure example of this, you talked about the Hezbollah. Um, sorry, you talked about the pages going off. Well, we take a play, take a page out of their lunatic playbook. They've used it for evil deeds, they've spent years before that getting that technology into those pages to know at a certain point they can use that to trigger off to create the carnage they want as a punishment. So they've planned ahead, years ahead, all the way down to the technology in a pager that's got into Hezbollah hands. Well, what we're doing is playing a similar game by putting all this information out there for years down the generation when they can only step on the information that we've told them about and prove us right. So you're not playing for today, you're playing for the future. These people are that's why they they tap into um game theory and they tap into people who play computer games like the nerds and all actually the autism spectrum as well. The autism thing is is fantastic for them because the level of connection is disconnected, so they can these are good people that they can use. These are people that need to be protected, like an Elon Musk, who can be used and abused like a Greta Thunberg who's on the autistic spectrum. So what they they function with, Doge was the same was the input-output, it's the game theory, it's um energy, it's mass, energy, and I think it's called co-operation. So you get the mass, the amount of people, the amount of energy you can put in it, the um so that creates the energy, what you can do with that energy, and then the cooperation of getting that energy to do something. Now that is basically game theory, and that's what they do with the chessboard and Freemasonry. So we need to learn how to think like them, not do as they do and use it in that way. But this is alchemy. So they think like alchemists, but they don't have the soul, they don't have the heart. That point is deleted in them. But that's how they've become CEOs, that's become Silicon Valley, that's become the how they've become presidents because they have scammed their way to the top and now they only let their like in. So if we're going to change the world, in my opinion, we need to think like them and then do the opposite. That makes sense?

SPEAKER_00 50:24

Absolutely. I mean you have to understand how it works, and if you're gonna even oppose it, or that's the whole point is to you have to get your nervous system, and I've thought this for a long time. I made jokes about you gotta think like a lizard to understand, you know, how the globalists and how they how they operate, and we're not raised that way. You know. Um I've made jokes for years like uh Ned Flanders from The Simpsons is not gonna be able to save the world. Sorry, sorry, Ned. You know, like that mentality. You gotta have a l you have to have a little bit of understanding of why they do what they do. Um so you gotta have even lived a little bit where you go, oh, I get it. You know, maybe I have that inclination, maybe I've thought about that. I didn't do those things. But um it helps me understand what they're doing, you know, and why they want to pull that out. Like what the what's the motivation here? The difference, what you just said there, is that you thought about it, but you didn't do those things.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

Well, that's the sociopath will do those things. They ain't give a shit. I had a doctor. And that's the point.

Narrative Warfare And Self-Fulfilling Prophecy

SPEAKER_00 51:29

One of my good friends was when I was growing up, as a doctor, my dad's best friend, he was a doctor, and we'd have these philosophical conversations, and he told me that when I was about 16, 17 years old. He he told me, you know, the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath um and a regular person is exactly that. The regular person will think about it and and maybe, you know, run this run the scenario, run the simulation and go, oh no, you know. But a psychopath will run it and go, okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

They'll go, okay, what can I get out on what can I get in? What's the input output here? Is this gonna benefit me? And that's what it is, and that's why we're coming back to like the start what we talked about, is that um there's a thing called NTT, and I can't remember what it stands for, but it's narrative transportation theory, I think. And it takes the narrative of something because we all live off narratives. You get up in the morning and you think about what you're gonna do the day. Everything is a story, that's how we function. What we know our characters within the story, that's how we function. Um so this narrative um transportation theory takes a story and plonks it on to people, and they live by it, and that's exactly what these messianic ideas are. They've taken a story, manipulated the story, and given it, made it a literal thing instead of a, in my opinion, spiritual thing, which it has its what you take from it. I think it has a lot of worth, but that's what you bring to it and what you take from it. To make it an actual literal thing like these are good doing, that goes back to the out to the Plato's kind of evolution of thought into matter. It's the same thing, it's want to bring everything down into this world. I want to physically make this place heaven on earth. And even Habad Lubavitch Nearson, the guy who the last Rebbe, seventh Rebbe, said our job is not to get to heaven but to bring heaven down to earth. And he weren't talking about spiritually, he was talking about physically making it. That's what you're seeing playing out. That's a story that's been given to people, and these people are around Trump and Netanyahu. That's why you're seeing what's happening now in the Middle East. That's why 20,000 children have died, that's why 70,000 plus, and I know that's just official figures, people in Palestinian have died over the last two and a half years in a mass genocide. That's why 165 kids died in Iran last week, the week before, in that bomb. Because of that stupid ass story, and I'm not saying there isn't everything, if you take it as a spiritual thing, it has all the value in the world. If you want to play it out as a bloody nativity in the real world stage, people have to die for that. That's ridiculous. That's not what it's supposed to be, obviously. But the story they've told themselves and the story about the story has convinced them that they're playing a part in God's work, and that's what happens. That's what happens, and we need to stop that. That can't happen. And I'm not having a problem with religion, I don't have a problem with faith at all. I have a problem with you trying to make the world fit into your faith and plant it on everyone else. Make the world in our image, make the world be what I want it to be. That's what these lunatics think that they've been brought to the planet to do because they've been brainwashed, and now they're running countries, and I know they're not actually running the country, but they're in the position to be the face of the country that gets the masses behind them and gets the energy, the mass, the energy, and the cooperation behind them to basically annihilate us all, and that's where we fucking are. That's where we are. In the same world, don't you think? Like, I'll get your thoughts on this. Don't you think in the same world Netanyahu and Trump would be sectioned right now? Yeah. W wh why are they not in straitjackets? Like, why are they not? They've killed 20,000 kids in the last two and a half years. They need to be sectioned. Sectioned, taken all out of humanity, put away because they're too dangerous to be in humanity. In part of the that behavior, if it was me and you, would be psychotic.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

Well, it depends on who's in power, Richard. I mean that's the problem. That's the problem. And I was watching So do we have the B system already? I think there's always the danger of that. Um, I don't think we're there yet. I think we've been given lots of opportunities. And because look, I I believe in God. Um, and I don't think that everything in the Bible is literal at all. I think it's all uh I think it's allegory and it's lessons and it's about um God, whatever you think of God is is you we all have the same gifts. Okay, we all have a gift from God, which is to tap into our spiritual life, and I believe that what we think if if you allow that to be become belief, that it manifests in what you see. And I think we have a problem in that people have been fed so many lies and they've chosen to believe them, and that creates the reality. So that's like there's a there's a divinity in each human being. I don't believe like Yuval Harari from the World Economic Forum that says that man is a hackable animal. I don't believe that's psychotic.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

That's the input output I was talking about earlier, that mentality.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

Yes, that you're a machine and uh that you're just hackable, and we have to get rid of these pesky humans, and then we're gonna link up with AI, and there's gonna be this singularity, and that doesn't it always come from the most emaciated looking man child? Absolutely. I mean I just thought of this when I woke up this morning is that we are giving the worst. Like, think about who's happy if if there's Armageddon and there's war and there's chaos and there's blood and there's death. Losers. Because they have no life, they don't have a family, they don't have any prospects for anything going on good. They can't create shit. The criminally insane homes. And you're just let that's go read- you know what you need to do when we're done with it? Well, go read the William Butler Yates poem, The Second Coming. I read the audience needs to read that because that's what's going on. It's like the one of the lines in there is that the the worst among us are full of passion and intensity, and that the the the good people are absent. They're just not showing up. And most of the good people right now are just trying to make a living and pay their bills and raise their family, and they're scared because you're looking at the world and it's it's absolutely on fire and it's insane. And and this is part of that getting you to buy into the fear, and uh so much of it, you know, the worst kind of prophecy, Richard, is self-fulfilling prophecy, and that's what we're doing, you know, like with buying into all this stuff with uh these end timers and uh it's so what does it start off with?

Language Shields And The Anti-Semitism Trap

SPEAKER_02 58:31

The self-fulfilling prophecy starts off with a narrative, a story. Someone's giving you a story, giving you a place in the world. So when you look at the allegory um of say Cain being um sent to the land of Nod, what the the punishment of him is he's got no central sun, he doesn't know where he's going, so he can't tell up, down, left from right, it's hell, because he's got no no surroundings, there's nothing for him to pinpoint his whereabouts, so he doesn't know who he is because he needs something else to measure himself against. So that's kind of the chaos that he lives in. So that's kind of where we are with this narrative. What that narrative does, it gives you your left, right, centre, up, down, left, right, in north, east, south, and west. It gives you a way of functioning, then it tells you what character you want to be, then it tells you what is good about that character and what you need to be and what you do you should be doing, and then it tells you where you need to be going. And it only doesn't even tell you where you're going, where you need to take the rest of the world should be going with you. That's what narrative does. That's how powerful narrative is, but it's bollocks because it isn't coming from you. Now you know not to kill people, not to hurt people, not to make people sad. You try your best because they're innate things that children know. It gets knocked out of you. I don't think people are born evil. I don't, unless you've literally got a chemical problem with your brain and you've you know been born with some sort of disorder, that may well be the case. But I don't think children are born bill on evil, I don't think Hitler was evil when he was a child. I think that's ridiculous. He became convinced that his evilness was for the greater good. He excused his evil nature, even though deep down he knew that what he was doing was wrong because everybody does. Trump will know. They'll just convince themselves. He might not care because he's a sociopath, but he still knows a big difference. They know they're doing wrong, they just don't give a shit. But that's the scary ones. Putin is far more scary than the other ones. Because Putin can control it. Putin has the emotional intelligence that Netanyahu and Trump don't have, in my opinion. He knows what's going on, but he can control himself, whereas the other two clearly can't. That's scary. He's a sociopath, he's a psychopath. But he knows it and he knows how to control it. Like it it's that's far scarier. And he's in with the the Habad lot too, by the way. But he's clever enough to play them off against each other. He actually keeps um some of these old Habad books in a museum in Russia who refuses to give back to America, and they're desperate to get him because they think there's some secret in there to the end times. He's smart. He might not believe in it, but he knows keeping those books means that they ain't gonna bomb the middle of Russia because the museums there. The books are in there. He knows how these people work. Tel Aviv, where did they where did Israel put their um major centres for their um intelligence? Right in the middle of Tel Aviv. So you wouldn't bomb them because it's in the middle of uh the city. They hide within uh something you know you find precious, so you won't destroy the shell of the egg to get to the core and take it out, because you value the egg. This is the way these people function. So they hide within a faith that you can't have a go at because you're anti-Semitic, even though Semitic means a group of languages largely Arabic, so it's a nonsensical term, but you won't have a go at them because you're anti-Semitic. You don't want to have a go at the Jewish people because what happened in the Holocaust, understandably so, but it's not their fault. They're being used by the Sabbathine cult to hide within as a red shield. Roth child. This is why it's so important to us to have these conversations and talk about this. I want to know how these lunatics think, and I want to beat them at chest.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Well, I I think it's important that you've uh there's that quote from from Nietzsche. I got the quote on Nietzsche lately, with uh if you stare into the abyss, it stares back into you, and be careful, and if you fight monsters, you don't become one.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:43

I 100%. I said the same thing to to or similar thing, not the same thing, not quite as elegant as that. There's probably a few swear words in there, but similar thing to Jamie this morning. I said, I'm not going to let this content make me a miserable old fuck, quite frankly. I'm not. I'm gonna enjoy my time here, and I'm gonna enjoy the fight, and I have purpose. That's purpose, and it's hilarious to me. I'm going to die anyway, one day. I held my dad's hand last year when he passed, the year before last, when he died of cancer, colon cancer. And I was there and I saw him leave his body, like his eyes went. I don't really give a shit anymore. Like I not in a bad way, but in a good way. It was like my dad faced death, and he was brave enough to face it, and I faced it with him. I'm gonna go one day. So I want to make sure this place for my children is as good as it can be. That's the only thing I can do, the only thing I want to do. And we have an opportunity. We're sitting here today. We do this for a living. Not bad, is it? Not bad at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

No, it's not bad at all. I was gonna go back to something you said earlier about the narrative and uh the directions. And you know that's where you get the the word news, you know that's where it comes from. Yes. North, east, west, and south.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes total sense, doesn't it? It's all an amazing story that doesn't have to have a bad ending. Or a reset. It doesn't, we don't none of this has to happen. David's first book, I think one of his first books, before he looked into conspiracies, I think, because this was he used to be part of the Green Party, was it doesn't have to be this way. Brilliant tile. It doesn't. It really, really doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

And I think we're on the verge of something, and I think one of the reasons that uh we're in this war right now in the US uh between um Israel, US, and Iran is a hurry-up offense. I think they just try I think they saw that the the public perception and uh the algorithm that I see is totally opposed to this, which you know you even mentioned the term anti-Semitic. The bar for that has been lowered so low. I mean, it's just any sort of like if you breathe wrong i in in the in the direction of uh the the the warmongering uh Zionist sect, you are anti-Semitic. And that nobody wants that anymore. Now now it doesn't mean anything. It's like in my country where you call somebody a racist. Well, I mean, you're not and i i i i if everybody's a racist, then nobody is. That's the point.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

They always overplay that hand.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:24

They overplayed the hand, and it's it did you talk about diminishing returns.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:29

The other thing about anti-Semitic is and you're totally right, they psychopaths always overplay their hand. They have no idea of how to control themselves. That's why Putin's a bit scary. Um, by the way. But in the anti Semitic things, if it means, and it does mean Semitic means a group of languages largely Arabic in its classical terms, that includes the Palestinians. So you are using the Semitic people. Yeah, the Semitic people. So you're using a term against people supporting and looking out for Palestinians, against them saying I'm anti Semitic when I'm actually. You're going, these people are Semitic people and you're murdering them. But this is the psychopathy and the satanic inversion of what is going, what's going with it. And I had some guy come back to me who's obviously a ardent Zionist saying anti-Semitic and Semitic don't are not the same thing. I said if you have anti-perspirant, what does it do? Stops you smelling, stops you perspiring. If you put anti on the front of something, it means the opposite of what's going to happen. You can't create a new word. Anti-Semitic is anti-Semitic people who speak Semitic languages, which is ludicrous. It's a fucking language.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:33

The very thing that will undo that is they keep using that term, and then you eventually get to the point where uh Semitic is from the from Sumer, right? It's it's the origin story of this particular race of people, which you are not.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:49

Exactly. And Judaism is a race. I don't care what anyone says, it's a faith.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:53

Well, of course it's a faith, but we're even getting into territory of our a Khazar and Khazarians and the history of that and Europe and the steps of Russia and the bl and that bloodline. And so for you to even claim this is it's so bizarre. And it so does it matter. And it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:16

Stop killing people. It doesn't that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:22

You know what's funny is I learned this from a Zionist. I learned uh from Dennis Prager, who was, I think, a thoughtful human being. I've listened to him for years and now he's paralyzed. I didn't know that he fell off a ladder and he just like he's a quadriplegic guy. And do you know who Dennis Prager is? No, I don't, but I know you're not. Well, you ever heard of Prager University? Yeah, yeah. Okay, well that he's a he was a talk show host and he's a real thoughtful guy. And it was he's Jewish and Zionist, but he said something for like 20 years ago that I remembered, and it's uh he said, Um, in order to do great evil, you have to first see yourself as a victim.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

And and Zionism isn't what it was originally now. Zionism, from what I can understand, and maybe mm the audience correct me, you'll correct me. Originally it was about having a homeland for the the Jews to faith. That's what it is. But it wasn't about forcing the hand of God to make that happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:18

And that's because it's just kind of morphed into something else. It's become something into you're right. It was like a homeland for for the Jewish people, and um put to politically make that happen. That's political Zion, what I understood. But now it becomes the the it has become like Greater Israel project.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

But that's it. The the homeland for the Jewish people, which they have, which is fine, whatever, don't bother me, um is become the Greater Israel project. But the Greater Israel project is the project for the New American Century, if you want to layer it, you've got your project your peanut. There, the project for the New American Century, you've got your Greater Israel project, and then you've got your messianic agenda, because the messianic agenda is really what the first two are about. They're about creating the kingdom of I think it's King Sargon the Second, and this goes back into this weird biblical stuff as well. Um so there is a a level of of they take things and they manipulate them to mean something else, but still blame the core of it. So it's not Zionism I have a problem with, it's this messianic illuminacy that tries to force the world in a certain direction.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

Oh, I agree with you. And that's it's funny because I I kick people off my channel um for saying racist things, and I think that like it's all a psyop, like when you start talking about uh because I don't please any side, like uh if you're if you're a right wing, like say right wing in my country in the United States, if you're conservative media in the mainstream, then that means you're an ardent like supporter of Israel. Those people don't like me, and then the anti-Semitic people, which I guess that's a kind of a re ridiculous term, but let's just say you understand what that means, like a real like person who does no Jews and no other races other than white, or if they're whatever that means. And um I make those people mad. So I gotta have, I mean, I'm right in the middle just going, I I I want I think every child on earth should be able to live in peace and be able to reach their creative potential. I think that people ought to have the uh inalienable human right to exist and create uh their own future in their own way. And maybe I'm an idealist. I don't think that's too much to ask for. We're only here on this planet for a short amount of time, and unfortunately, psychopaths use our best qualities against us to reach levels of power so they can play these psychotic games of making us kill each other for their own profit. And we're talking about a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people in the as far as numbers. So if we don't believe it anymore, then the whole game stops. You understand this, right? So I think that's what and you you know there are there's major progress being made. We don't see it because we've been engaged so much in it for years, and I always felt like I've been ostracized, you know, like it even being right doesn't mean that there's some big like you don't get an award. Like um me calling shots that you know ten years ago saying this is how especially with like currency and other things, like this is this is the the path. Nobody hands you a an award. You you kind of are off the page, and when everybody catches up, like we're talking about Zoro Ranch. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean for years I've been saying, who cares who flew on the plane? Exactly. I want to talk about the genetic experiments and the missing people and the you know, yep. And um it just goes up, but eventually, and then when the files dropped, because you gotta remember, according to people like Ben Shapiro, there are no files, right? And his eyebrows just keep growing.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:11

Oh, they got massive. I don't know what that is, but uh something I'd have to physically start to look like something else. Maybe it's a manifestation of the evil coming through.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:20

I heard a great saying years ago that uh by the age of 50, you get the face you deserve.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:28

Shit. So five years, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:30

Might get a nice one. I got four, I got four years. I think my face turned I actually am getting the face I deserve. Perhaps it's okay. Um I was telling this is a funny story. I was telling Gareth yesterday. We were talking about people that look like like he was saying uh somebody looked like his father-in-law at a place down here, and then um it was so eerie. And I said, Somebody stopped me on the street once, and uh they said, uh they were like, Is your name Mike? Are you Mike? I said, No. And uh they said, I swear you look exact, I mean it's so eerie, you look exactly like this guy. And I said, Um, well, when you see Mike, tell him he's ugly.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:05

Yeah, you know stay at home, Mike. Yeah, it's a funny old world, isn't it? It's been lovely to chat to you. Oh, I I've enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:15

I I think I think we've done right out the amount of time we wanted to do. So and always, you know, we can do part two when you come see me.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

I doubt it. I'll sponsor you. Oh, yeah, what if you can do that? I don't even know what that means, but it sounds like you might stick me in the back in a duffel bag.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:35

Sponsored. I'm gonna I gotta I'll go through, I'll hire you. You can be a consultant to come in to make sure that um my mental health is is functioning at the right capacity to run a business. It'll be dry humour. I'd need it. Yeah. Yeah. I need that British wit. If I don't have it, I'll You'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:54

The world is just as a shit show. We've done all right for 46 and 45. We're still here.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:59

I I think so. I think so.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:02

Um You've got a magnificent beard as well, which I I wish I could grow one like that. I can grow one. I've never tried it to that extent, but I've got to be a good one.

Closing Reflections And Where To Find Us

SPEAKER_00 1:14:10

You know what's funny is I I didn't know I could until COVID. I like it. And um there was nobody to cut my hair. And so I just ended up my hair was gone and it just looks terrible. And finally I found a barber outside of Branson, Missouri, who never complied with any. I just found it, you know, and uh cool, you know, uh young lady, and um she just said, I'm gonna fix you up. And so she shaped my beard, and I just never I just always let her do it. She I go, I go, cut it how you think it looks best. And so she made my beard, and it's kind of like a shape, and I'm like, you know what? I'm keeping it. Yeah, it's your thing now. Yeah, it's my signature. I don't know if I how would I ever get rid of it at this point? You don't need to, yeah. No one will know who you are by that point. I I think so. I have had even the even the TSA guy was coming, he's like, that's uh congratulations on your beard. I'm like, is that a thing? Is that a it is in this world, mate.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:07

I will see you. It's been lovely to chat to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:08

Yeah, YouTube brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:10

A pleasure.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:11

Tell people where they can I mean, because I'm gonna put this. Oh, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:14

Um iconic.com for all of the video work. It we've got a YouTube channel, just put Richard Willett in there. Um, making monsters is the thing that I'm working on at the moment, which is about the psychology of it's basically drawing a bridge gap between conspiracies and true crime. Um, I do a lot of content on there. This video will be on there. Um, and what f Rich, W-T-A-F-Rich on on uh Twitter X. That's where you can find me. I have got a Substack, some may Conspire. I do loads of stuff. Substack's great. Substack, I love Substack. I think I gotta do more Substack. I've got some followers on there who've been really good to me. So where people can find your work for my channel.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:52

The easy place to go is just go to Tony.gold. Just type that in in the URL Tony.gold, and it'll take you to my website. And there's my podcast is up there and all the links to what I do and uh precious metals and Bitcoin and everything else, and you can find it's a good place to, and if you need more links, you can message me there. I I'm working on consolidating all my channels and uh so hopefully something coherent like yours. I'm more of it's only coherent because iconic let me put my stuff on it. I mean you have you your body of work is a little different than mine. Yes. Mine's so scattered, but um anyway, I appreciate you, Richard. Thank you so much for it.