{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":0.63,"endTime":5.13,"body":"Hey guys,"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":0.63,"endTime":5.13,"body":"welcome to Episode 117 of the"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":5.13,"endTime":10.29,"body":"This can't be that hard podcast."},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":5.13,"endTime":10.29,"body":"Now, the first 116 episodes of"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":10.29,"endTime":14.7,"body":"the podcast were dedicated"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":10.29,"endTime":14.7,"body":"entirely to the business of"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":14.7,"endTime":17.43,"body":"photography. But today we're"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":14.7,"endTime":17.43,"body":"going to be doing something a"},{"speaker":"Annemie Tonken","startTime":17.43,"endTime":22.95,"body":"little different. 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