Cosmic Expansion

Tune in this week to celebrate the shifts coming to Cosmic Connections. This episode is about catching up on the journey and continuing to share the journey as we grow. Thank YOU for being here.

Transcript

[00:13] Taylor Wilhelm: Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Cosmic Connections. We are grateful to connect with you today. I'm here with Justin. Hey.

[00:22] Justin Grava: So glad to be back.

[00:25] Taylor Wilhelm: US. We took a little break. It's been since May since we last recorded, which it doesn't actually feel like it's been that long, but when I hear it, I'm like, wow.

[00:37] Justin Grava: You're like, oh. I mean, time flew by. It definitely flew by.

[00:44] Taylor Wilhelm: Yes. Especially with all the moving pieces that we've had and what we're working on. And I think today we're going to let you all in on that a little bit and explain kind of the vision and pick up where we left off on that last episode.

[01:00] Justin Grava: Absolutely. I'm excited. Why don't you leave us in then?

[01:05] Taylor Wilhelm: All right, so I would love to start with everyone just taking a really deep breath into the body. Really presensing your energy, feeling yourself, your body, the air coming in your nose. Just take a few breaths here. Being intentional, noticing that maybe life slowed down just a little bit when we did that. So as we all arrive here together, our prayer today is that you walk away with a nugget from this that can inspire you, hold you, just help you navigate this life with a little more ease. So today I think we're diving into just some synchronicities and some interesting experiences we've been having. So we're coming up on the one year mark of when Justin and I had first started talking about starting something, a collective. I mean, we've been talking about it for a while, but September was really of last year was when we really were like, let's actually make a podcast or start something and just get this ball rolling. And so we're going to kind of explain today how that journey has felt for us with all the events that you have all been along for the ride with.

[02:37] Justin Grava: Oh my gosh, that's truly been almost a year.

[02:41] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. Like September 3 is when I made that journey to Hawaii to see if I wanted to move here.

[02:51] Justin Grava: That feels almost like a lifetime ago, to be honest. That is like, this summer felt fast and that felt like forever ago.

[03:00] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. And we were reflecting earlier, before we started, that it's such an interesting feeling for those of you that have followed along of the life events that happened. My grandmother took her own life and that was a major shift. That was on September 12. So just in a few days and in one year, time just feels so confusing because there's been so much expanse, so much change. It feels like the year has flown by in the blink of an eye. And it also feels like lifetimes at the same time. And it's just such an interesting experience to experience all these things at once. About a year of time.

[03:50] Justin Grava: Right. And to feel like it's only been one year, but to have had so many just drastic changes in myself, to how I operate, how I see other people, to seeing the people around me like you and all the others around us. And as it's been building, just like everyone's grown and changed and really found themselves in such a short time, but it felt forever like it has. It's hard to look back and look at a year ago.

[04:21] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. And it's so interesting how the death of something so special to me in a cycle ending was also the birth of switching my business from being just like a single practice to opening it up to be a collective and a team effort, where it wasn't just me. And that's just that duality of the cycle of life, like birthing something that's going to change all of our lives in my life while grieving another life ending is such an interesting space.

[04:57] Justin Grava: It's confusing.

[05:01] Taylor Wilhelm: It is. And I find it actually beautiful, though, from the universe that we decided on this that happened. And it was like I had my five best friends along. Not that it was only about business, but we were connecting and talking so much more than before and it was everybody at the same time because we were having meetings and it was really us all getting to know each other. And it was just so special to be building something and also all be so transparent about what was going on. And us releasing the pressure of a timeline because of the events. It's like my grandma passing was the worst pain I've ever been in and it also slowed me down and was the key in this to be like, we don't have a deadline, right? And that allowed us to all work so beautifully and just so at our own pace. No rush, because then it's not authentic. And I feel like that's what I take the most pride in is the authenticity of what we're doing and how each person is showing up embodied in the practices of what this collective is all about.

[06:20] Justin Grava: Right? And it's such a different concept where in my corporate, where I work right now, it's about getting it done, working, pushing, doing the next thing instead of where it's like sitting back and feeling and what's best for us, what's best for others, how can we work? And the right people come in and slowing down, which has not been easy for me, but it has been the best journey of learning, continually learning that one.

[06:55] Taylor Wilhelm: And I think that as we've all transitioned, we've gotten to see how it is normal for every human to have such ebb and flows. Because when you're working with five people, there's such a wave of the energy levels and the emotions and the seasons. It's been so beautiful to show up exactly as we are in the state that we're in. And it's truly incredible to me. That what the high vibe travel tribe like. If I could describe what it's about it would be that it's a space where the full spectrum of human emotions can be felt. It doesn't matter what emotion that is, knowing that this is a safe space that you can show up no matter what state of that spectrum you're in.

[07:52] Justin Grava: Right. And I would almost say it is a space where someone can try things out. Right. They can search for that high itself, knowing that they're not going to be laughed at for trying to figure themselves out and expressing who they really are. Like, it's not a weird, it's a be yourself and we want to celebrate it and be weird with you.

[08:15] Taylor Wilhelm: Everyone's taking their mask off because we live somewhere that's taught us to put maps on. And as I've held space and ceremonies this year, it's been such an embodiment practice to show up to these retreats and ceremonies and to also be honest about my grief journey while hosting these spaces and letting myself be seen in a deep emotional experience, sometimes leading a ceremony or telling my story. And embodiment is just when I think of what we do, it's holding everyone to that higher self embodiment of just stepping into who we really are and our truth and our hearts and just not being afraid to show that. And the more space we can create for that, the better.

[09:11] Justin Grava: No, it's so beautiful. And that embodiment has been the best part for me. And to have everyone in the group and when we're meeting, to be embodying what we're talking about and bring it into our lives and then sharing how we're struggling and then we're all learning with each other and it's like the small little things with the company, it's great, but it's taking all of that and it's applying. It my whole life. And it's been such a transformation, like, with everybody and my lessons and my things are with everyone else and theirs is with me. And it's been just nice to be.

[09:47] Taylor Wilhelm: Known what's really going on.

[09:49] Justin Grava: Right.

[09:50] Taylor Wilhelm: Special. And I mean, you just came back from Justin, attended the retreat on the Big Island in Hawaii, and yeah, I would love for you to just tell everyone how you felt at the retreat. It wasn't my first retreat led, but it was my first time that we opened up a large event coming from the team all working together. It couldn't have been possible without everyone.

[10:19] Justin Grava: Right. It was a cool experience because I've known Taylor for forever and know just kind of how she is. And so I was like, I kind of think I know what to expect, but I had no idea.

[10:37] Taylor Wilhelm: I was surprised, right?

[10:40] Justin Grava: I don't know. And I'm going to Hawaii also for the first time. So it was just this huge experience. I don't really know anybody except for some of the members. And it was so cool to come to the space where within the first day, I just felt like I knew almost everybody, right. Not so much new, but felt like I could go talk to anyone, I could go connect with anyone because everyone was so open. And then the way things were set up with the activities in the beginning, it was like, here, come meet people and show yourself. And it was just as someone that's like socially anxious, it's easy right off the rib.

[11:24] Taylor Wilhelm: Would you say that? Because my idea with it was everyone is their own self healer and we have to go within to do the work. And we are our own healers. We can be guided through our healing and we can be held. But ultimately the responsibility is radical responsibility for self. So I feel like it was your first time experiencing a group of people being together and also not talking all the time and going within in a community space. What was that like for you?

[12:00] Justin Grava: That was honestly, it was hard and easy. It was hard because being around a lot of people, normally I get all anxious and then I want to go be alone, right. And then I'm safe and whatnot. But I also got really good when I was in situations of being alone and kind of like sitting in a kind of corner. But it was that hard part because it wasn't like I was sitting over there and worrying about them or other people or what people are thinking. Right. It was, okay, now you're sitting around all these people, but can you still look into yourself and clear your thoughts and like, think about the things that are coming up and like, why are you even anxious right now? And questioning that social anxiety that I still had. Right. Yeah. Because there was no excuse from me as far as like, they're judging, because they weren't. And it was very clear that no one was and I still was anxious. And it forced you to think about it and acknowledge it, like right away. And it was interesting.

[13:12] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. And that's the goal of most of the events that we do. There'll be time for connection and community and there'll also be time for introspection. Because in the world that we live in, it's so easy to get lost in the sauce. We've talked about this before of just one thing to another. We add in the roles of family, children, practices. I mean, it is hard. Everyone we're never sitting here like this is easy. It takes devotion and dedication to this work. And integration, I find in my own life is something that I can neglect. Sometimes if we're moving too fast from one thing to the next, we have to give ourselves, our nervous system time to process and integrate the experience before moving into the next thing. And I believe this is my life's journey to learn this.

[14:07] Justin Grava: I believe it's key that I feel like because that's a retreat. It was so simple with everyone around all the amazing food and the yoga, right? You just felt so energized and just ready to go and live and go chase your dreams, right? And then when you get home, I jumped into work and everything, and I was like this energizer bunny of just passion and ready to change the world. And then it was just like slowly I went back to getting my buffalo chicken sandwiches and drinking my wings. It's so easy to fall back into the old habits and things. And it was this time it was different, though. It was like I saw myself doing it, and I kind of let it happen and just, like, was watching. And, like, the same with the social anxiety in the room. Like, why am I eating like this? What am I really liking about what is it, right? And so I just kept letting it happen, and it's spending more money than I should, and I see it and I'm like, It's okay, what am I even enjoying about this? I go here. I do this. Right? And it's been very interesting to realize that I don't actually enjoy it. And that's why I was so much happier when I did the alcohol break, because I took out those trips to the bar to go work for an hour or two and spend $40 and be social. Right. It was a different thing.

[15:35] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. And at the retreat, we feel what it's like when we nourish our vessel properly and we nourish our mind and our body every day. Right. We're being so intentional about nourishing these three mind, body, soul components. And then we get home and we're back in the routine. That doesn't include that, or maybe it doesn't include all of those things. And it's just small integrations of doing these practices. You know, maybe it's like one week you focus on the mind part or the body part or the soul part. You can tune in little bit by little bit and just build on it. It's like a muscle. So I think that I'm celebrating that you came, you participated, and now you're home and you're integrating, you're practicing, you're practicing that awareness. And that in itself is such a celebration.

[16:33] Justin Grava: Yeah. No, thank you. And it turned, and when it was like, eight days ago, I kind of was like, all right. I woke up in the one morning, I was like, all right, I'm done. I'm ready to go back to how I was feeling. And it was just like this flip in my mind, because for me, it's hard to I didn't know what it felt like when I was at the retreat of just feeling a freeness, no anxiety, no feeling like I needed to go anywhere, but I feel like I could go anywhere once I felt it. It was like leaving that feeling, leaving that vibration. It was so easy for me, like, no, let's go back and take those steps right back up. Let's go find that self again because it was so much freer.

[17:18] Taylor Wilhelm: It was. And the land is incredible here in Hawaii. And I think too, part of our mission when we do host events here is like really honoring the land and teaching the people that come how important it is to build this relationship with the eye here and just truly understanding and seeing her magic. And I felt that so deeply from everyone that came and it was so special to just be in that presence for five days in the jungle together. So I'm just so grateful for all that time. And now I kind of am excited for the next retreat that we're having, which is coming up. It's in November. November 11 through the 13th in Black Mountain, North Carolina. So each one is unique in its own way and anyone who knows me, nothing will ever be the same. It's just not how I roll. And I really intuitively plan the events and things once I fill out the souls that come. And so we're about to open the registration for that next week. And, yeah, really excited to see who joins us this year.

[18:45] Justin Grava: I'm so excited and I am going to be joining. Love it. That was truly an amazing experience and after knowing you for so long, but to come attend this and see you in that setting, you were magical.

[19:05] Taylor Wilhelm: You're so sweet.

[19:06] Justin Grava: Yeah, you can see that you're meant to be there. Like, it just feels so easy and natural.

[19:14] Taylor Wilhelm: Thank you so much for that reflection. And I say it all the time. I couldn't be in the East State I'm in facilitating a retreat if I didn't have all of you helping me do all the little things that are the behind the scenes. So it feels so special to be doing this with all of you. And I have to go back. I have to go back and listen to how in depth we went to. I don't want to like, reshare, but yeah, we're going to be shifting and the shift is going to be just trying to be a little more consistent on the podcast. Again, we know we appreciate you understanding that Life is an episode and we're meeting so many cool people that we're going to be bringing different people onto the podcast. Justin's working really hard on other things going on, too, so I'm going to be doing a lot more of the podcast and we're just kind of yeah, we're switching it up a little bit, but still keeping it what it's been. So we're excited to see where it goes and we'll be excited to see who joins us on the journey. And we wanted to keep you guys in the loop by today, just saying hello and letting you know what's been up with us and yeah. Do you have anything else you want to add?

[20:41] Justin Grava: No, it's really exciting for the future because when we started back in september, I had all these ideas and things that I wanted to do, and Taylor was kind of, like, chill out and relax and let things happen. They're going to be okay. So I really fell down into that. It really took onto that idea of just, like, stopping and relaxing little and really appreciating what I want and what I want to do. And so it's really exciting that through that time and through those last six months, that I feel like I've really found myself in what I want to do. And that at this same moment, we're coming to that point in the company where we're going to start to add new things and start to expand with the new people we're meeting. It's crazy, the timing, it's always synchronistic. It's always flowing together when we're doing things.

[21:40] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. If you guys ever feel like you want to learn more about the collective, we always invite that people come to a few of our events, meet the team, fill out if it resonates with you, and we're totally here to chat about it whenever you feel called. Basically, today we're just going to wrap up with November. November. I keep saying we're in September, but an interesting thing I noticed today was that Suicide Prevention Week is September 4 through September 11. And my grandmother took her own life last year on September 12. And I just find that so interesting right afterwards. And I didn't even know that was, like, the annual Prevention Week. It's like a weird timeline. And I would say, you know, firsthand, this year has been so insanely tough for everyone everywhere. Yeah. And just like, I revisited the grief and the pain of her passing so unexpectedly and the blame I had and just all these emotions. It's like it's been frustrating from a standpoint of how much it feels like it takes my present moment sometimes because I'll just be like, why am I thinking about this in the middle of my day on a Monday? Like, I want to be back in the gratitude and the joy, wanting to get out of the painful times. And you just with grief and something like this, you just can't.

[23:24] Justin Grava: Right. It keeps pushing you back to there, even though you're like, I'm enjoying it over in this spot.

[23:32] Taylor Wilhelm: And once you go there, it's not like you just turn it off. It's like once you're there, you're kind of stuck there for however long until it passes.

[23:42] Justin Grava: Right. You've opened the dam a little bit. It might be trickling out, but it's coming out. You have to face it or it's going to continually come up more and more and more in everyday parts of it.

[23:55] Taylor Wilhelm: People numb it. Feel the heal to heal. Yeah. Come up. And I'm, like, in this mode, even catching my own being, being frustrated about that, it's like, I would never be frustrated at one of my patients or clients for being sad. You know, and it's like meeting ourselves with that energy of, like, that compassion. And so there's been so much expansion from learning this journey of something this painful. And just as I was coming to this one year mark, I was kind of having this vibe of like, whoo, I hope next year is like a lighter. I just hope that, like, you know, because I guess, you know, I've never had to grieve a personal loss in this way. So for me, I guess I didn't see myself still being this deeply impacted. You don't realize you'll be impacted this deeply a year down the road.

[24:57] Justin Grava: Right.

[24:58] Taylor Wilhelm: And so as that has been the experience with her, I've just kind of been like when I think back to the note that she wrote, you know, the note literally says everything that she wanted. It says, hey, my soul is tired. I'm sorry. Please don't blame yourself or anyone. I love you so much and you brought me joy. It's like, that note says exactly what she was feeling. And accepting that is so much harder than when I hear that. It's like, oh, she literally she's explaining. And so experiencing all this has been changed me so much. And as I was reaching the one year point, I felt all of a sudden that I was ready to do a ceremony where I was going to switch the narrative here. I'm ready to tune back into that joy of just being alive, and that just daily wow, the sky being like, just how I was before this death. And you're never going to believe what happened.

[26:08] Justin Grava: Wait, what happened?

[26:10] Taylor Wilhelm: One of my friends that I think we talked about this in an earlier episode, the experience with the fire and the song and the ember and my grandmother telling this medium that confirming all these things. It was my first time having an actual experience of like, whoa, I'm experiencing this phenomenon existing. I'm experiencing my grandmother through a medium, and I'm positive it's her. Like, that was a wild experience. And so I really trusted this person because of how much they were able to communicate and things like that. And it's someone I really deeply know. Two days ago, she scheduled a session with me, and during the session, she was like, I would love to tell you a message that is coming from your grandmother. And it was wild, the message that came through, because she said that in this life, my grandma wanted to explain to me that her role was being a martyr and that she had to suffer in this life to actually live out her soul's purpose. So, like, when I looked up martyr, it's someone who victimizes themselves for the benefit of others. And this generational trauma of suicide in my family, all these deep layers, I mean, two to three layers deep on both sides of the family. It's like she literally like her doing this in my life. It hit me like a brick. It slowed my life down. It shifted my business to actually go for what I want. I moved to Hawaii, where I find joy. It's like, even though it wrecked me emotionally, it forced me to see, holy cow, we have one life. And just like, it sent me into this state. And it makes sense because some of my grandma's values were very proper and I would just say a different belief than me. And I could see that we're still the same, but I couldn't really feel that reciprocation back now. This medium was like, now she's in her purest form as a soul, and there's no veil of her being stuck in these roles and these beliefs that she always had. The other part of the message was that my grandmother knew that I was going to essentially shift into a matriarch motherly role of, like, a tribe or a family. And I feel like it's so interesting that without knowing this, I started the tribe. And it's like I feel like it's a collective, but I kind of, like, nurture it and flow it. And it's just interesting that the synchronicity of that message and what's happening in life right.

[29:15] Justin Grava: And seeing that the message and the things that you couldn't see at the time started what you needed to do so that right now you could understand and be in the position exactly. In a position to perceive what you just talked about. Right. To like, holy shit, I am doing what I want, and this is where I was supposed to be.

[29:36] Taylor Wilhelm: It's harder. It weirdly. Makes sense to me.

[29:42] Justin Grava: Like, somebody dying to set, like right. They use that as the tone and history.

[29:48] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah. Somebody dying to shift, to start a new. I mean, this is, like, as a.

[29:53] Justin Grava: Symbol, as a message behind it of, like, this is your only life.

[29:59] Taylor Wilhelm: And the message behind it of, this has to be done to change. Like, this has to be done to shift the unit or the sole family in the direction it needs to be directed. Even though, like, this act and it does make me wonder, when she completed this act, it's like, did she know that? I feel like maybe did she know I have to do this for this? Or it's like, who knows?

[30:28] Justin Grava: Or maybe, like, subconsciously, I have another way to take it. With the way that happened with your grandmother, you went through this trauma and this Greek, but I felt like that slowdown forced you for the first time for so long, you've been helping everyone else and always holding space, right. To hold space for yourself.

[30:51] Taylor Wilhelm: Yes. Right.

[30:53] Justin Grava: Like, her pain was with you, no one else. Right. And it was your relationship to her death and all these different things that you've talked to me about and shared and all these things you're learning from this experience is shaping this entire trajectory because you would come into the meetings and share so many things that you were learning from this.

[31:14] Taylor Wilhelm: Yeah, you're right. I'm a projector and can't see these things sometimes.

[31:20] Justin Grava: Right? Because it is and it's definitely projectors. And then even for other people, that it's so much easier to see in other people what they have or what they're learning or if they're in pain. And when it's you, it's hard. I can see it from everyone. So clear for yourself. Right.

[31:40] Taylor Wilhelm: It takes you holding myself in those depths of just like I mean, absolute there was nowhere to go. You're right. Like, nowhere to go. Wow. Great reflection. That was really true. And the wildest part of this, too, is that the medium was before we ended up talking. She was like, she doesn't want you to be sad anymore. Like, she's so proud of you and like, what you've done with this hurt and the space you're able to hold now. Because I do I feel like it opened up my ability to hold space and ceremonies for a whole new level of processing for people that I didn't have access to before because I hadn't lived it. And I'm all about embody what you teach and teach only what you embody. And it's like this was a code of embodiment that you couldn't get without walking the walk.

[32:35] Justin Grava: Right? And that was for, like, on my side going into the retreat. It was like that full, like, oh, my gosh, I have to really keep bringing myself up for this retreat. And then to continue to embody and feel like everyone around you is embodying what they really are. It was held because of the space that you have gone all through this and shared all of this trauma. And everyone knew, right? And with that still showing up and still doing these things and learning about yourself so much. And like I said, I learned so much about myself and shared, but learned so much through you and your own journeys and things that you've been learning internally.

[33:20] Taylor Wilhelm: Yes, that is so true. And I did it's like, every time I would learn, I would share. And I was able to be so open because you guys were all so close. And I'd known you guys for so long that I was able to not hide about where I truly was at the time. And I think the main I don't want this to sound like, too intense, but I mean, this it's like what it birth for me is that I realized we don't live in a world I would love to share my ceremony experience sometime. That's how I got here. But I don't believe my grandmother's generation knew how to say, I'm struggling with my mental health. Or maybe they were never taught that's, even allowed to, because there were so many other things they had to worry about. It was like there wasn't a safe space to say how deep the struggle really was. And so. I find that so important to be able to go to those depths in community and be welcomed. And so essentially, it would be that if somebody on Friday night is struggling and maybe they're considering taking their own life, they know that on Saturday morning they can come to an event that we're doing and speak about where they were last night if they need to, and they're still welcome at the Circle. Bring it to the Circle if they need to, and there's a group of people that will embrace them. But really, just really just helping people know that there's nothing you could bring, that it's like, life is hard, and let's create that space that people haven't even understood or had access to. And I wouldn't have even realized how little the access was if this tragedy didn't happen to my family.

[35:10] Justin Grava: Right. And then to be around it, and that full extent of having it, and then to go back, you really feel how you don't have that type of space for those things around all the time.

[35:24] Taylor Wilhelm: Nobody talks about it. Nobody says, I'm thinking about killing myself, and suicide is the second leading cause of death in our country. It's like it clearly is something that's happening. And yes, we have I mean, obviously there's resources and there's people who care about this, but just in general, let's help the collective be more of an open space, that it's okay if you're going through something, you can still be here and have other humans supporting other humans. It's like we're meant for companionship and people. And that's kind of our goal too, with having a free workshop every month just so that it's like if someone needs to just hear something, we're holding a space where something is going on, where you can meet someone.

[36:19] Justin Grava: And I will say, if you are struggling, please come to the workshop. This next one, the last seven years, not that long ago, I was in that low, low, low spot, right in that spot. And it's been just this journey up to where we are now. And I'm so excited to share so much during that, and I really think so many people will take a lot out of it.

[36:48] Taylor Wilhelm: The 26th September, so be on the lookout for that. We're excited. And I forgot to tell you one more thing about the story. So after she delivered the message, she said, she's going to bring you a seashell today. And I was like, okay. And because that was my first meeting of the day, I had client meetings, and I didn't even remember that by the end of the day. And right before I went to bed, my roommate was like, hey, I need to tell you something. And he was like, I finally went diving, and went diving for a shell. And when I was diving, I felt called to give it to you. And it's my first one. And I was like, oh, my gosh. The day ended with me receiving a shell that was just so and his first one, and so wild. Like, he didn't even know this. I hadn't even told him about talking to the medium or the shell. He hadn't been home all day. And then that interaction happened, and I had this huge reaction about a seashell, but really, I was like, Holy, holy shit. And it was crazy.

[38:00] Justin Grava: Just the amount of times you keep.

[38:02] Taylor Wilhelm: Getting reaffirmed, that like, oh, my God. That's what I mean. It's like I literally can't not believe it at this point, because there's been at least ten different times where I've been given these direct signs that are just, like, in your face. Like, there's no way you can deny this. And now I'm finally surrendered in, and weirdly enough, receiving that message from the medium and the seashell, and my grandma literally saying, Stop being sad. This had to happen for our family lineage. Something in me at this one year mark shifted in the past few days. I'm like, oh, my God, I feel like my old self, and I'm like, I feel free again. And it's like, it's mind blowing. And I'm so grateful, and it's so cool to communicate to her in this way, and, oh, my gosh, I obviously still miss her, but it's a different energy now.

[38:58] Justin Grava: I can see it in you. And it's crazy to watch and to also hit it at the same time. It's magical to be here at this time in this place, and to have walked through this last year with you. And we're just starting. It's so cool.

[39:15] Taylor Wilhelm: It's been so special, and we're so grateful for all of you that have tuned into these episodes. We love you so much and stay tuned for what's to come. Let us know if you have any questions or comments about the upcoming retreat or workshop. And you can find us on social media, so check us out on there, and we'll talk to you guys very soon.

[39:42] Justin Grava: Bye.

[39:43] Taylor Wilhelm: Bye. I welcome heart with me. I welcome all of the beautiful things that are meant for me.