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EP 3: The Audacity to Push Beyond with Page Kennedy
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What’s up? Welcome to the Impact Warrior podcast!
In this episode, I talk to a longtime friend of mine, Page Kennedy. Page is a TV and film actor known for his roles in Weeds, Blue Mountain State, The Meg, S.W.A.T. and currently, The Upshaws on Netflix.
I have known Page for over 20 years (wow, time goes by fast!) and I invited him onto the podcast because I think everyone should have a friend like Page! Over that time, I have learned a ton from how this man approaches life, with bravery and belief in himself. He has always been relentless in the pursuit of his goals and unashamed to go after the things he feels destined to do. I think we can all take a page from Pages’ book (pun intended), and aim to be more audacious in our lives.
I love the way Page looks at the business side of acting and of his industry, and we discuss not being afraid to ask for what you want, and to keep reminding people if necessary to attack your dreams. Page is also an outstanding, “esoteric” (in his words) dad, so we talk about parenting as well.
It was great to catch up with my friend Page and to have the opportunity to talk more in depth about how he became the unbelievable person he is today. If you take anything away from our conversation, I hope it is that you must be willing to take risks to achieve your dreams.
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What you’ll hear in this episode:
[8:30] A powerful thing about Page: He does not circumspect and is audacious in his pursuit of success, and how he got that way.
[16:08] What Casey has learned from Page about flexing what you’ve got, your skills and strengths.
[21:05] Page and Casey on their parenting styles and things they’ve learned from one another about being a dad.
[40:05] Page on what’s coming up for him in his career, and things to be happy about
To keep up with Page, you can find him @pagekennedy on Instagram, Tiktok, Twitter, Snapchat, and Youtube, listen to his new album, “Page”, and catch him in The Upshaws on Netflix.
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Impact Warrior
Episode 3: The Audacity to Push Beyond with Page Kennedy
Full Transcript
Introduction: 00:00
You're listening to the impact warrior podcast. This podcast was created out of a vision to have like minded entrepreneurs who have faced similar battles and understand how difficult entrepreneurship can be. We will feature guests who are here to share with you how rewarding the journey can be. If you stay focused and disciplined to achieve the desires of your heart, every business owner will face a certain level of difficulty at some point, regardless of the industry. And we are here to share with you the story of warriors who have knocked down massive walls to inspire you to keep fighting on this journey. Let's conquer the journey together. And here's your host, Casey Zeman.
Casey: 00:43
Let's go. Page Kennedy. Mr. Page, got food in my mouth, while I'm talking to my one of my closest friends for 20 years Kennedy, can stop smacking on some food. When you're in front of a friend. You can't stop. When you're when you get on video. Unless you're auditioning for something. Unless you're shooting something. You're gonna throw some food in your mouth. That is your that's your tell. But that's the same way man. I have my food right here. I need a drink at any moment. That's the same thing. Same thing with food.
Page: 01:20
You got like some healthy thing? Yeah. I suppose in a Gatorade.
01:28
I know. I got kombucha and then a power bar. I have popcorn Skittles and Gatorade. But it gets it the same results. We just need to get confident and comfortable.
Page: 01:44
Yeah right. Same results my ass.
01:46
These this this gentleman, Page Kennedy. First off, he is a he's a delight. He is a friend of mine for 20 years. He is also--
Page: 01:59
20 years? Are you mad? We've been here for 20 years.
02:05
Oh, shit. It's even longer guys. It's even longer. which is which is kind of crazy. But he's also an amazing actor. And he's been in Blue Mountain State, Weeds. The Meg, and most recently,
Page: 02:25
S.W.A.T.
02:26
S.W.A.T. And you see The Meg behind you. And most recently, the Upshaw's on Netflix as Duck and I love him as a human. I love him as an actor. And the reason I thought to have him on this podcast is because I know his journey. I know I've seen it. I've talked to him about it. I mean, there are a lot of things that I don't know, but
Page: 02:54
You've been a part of it. You've been a part of my journey.
Casey: 02:56
I've been a part of your journey. I've slept -Yes, yes, I've been in his I slept in his apartment when I didn't have a place to stay in Los Angeles. We go way back, is my point. And if there is anyone who has been faced with, like, challenges or opportunities, challenges and has navigated the the business and industry of acting in a more refined way, I won't I wouldn't be able to find them. I think Page, you know, what you've been able to do with what you know, as an actor, I think is really inspiring. And that's why I wanted to bring you on. Because I feel like I know some of the roadblocks as you say, you've hit and this podcast is really all about cats.
Page: 03:58
I don't know why she feels the need when I do this to come right here. There's so much other places that she could be. But she literally needs to be..
04:11
Just like, and her butt. This is why cats are so weird. They always want to just stick their butt right up in your face.
Page: 04:18
They do man. I don't know what she thinks I'm supposed to do with that, anyway.
04:23
But listen, um, I want to talk about I want to talk about you, you as a human. I feel like you don't give up. Tell me why you have never given up have never stopped trying have never stopped pushing forward. Because there have been plenty of times when you've been hit and brought down to your knees basically. But you just don't stop. And I know those moments, and we could talk about those moments too but like, but first I want to talk about what it takes mentally to be able to even just get back up and handle and handle your shit, handle your business? Get back up and do it. That's the thing. So can you tell me about that? Like, what is it? What is it about you that makes you even if you get hit, you get back up? Where does that come from?
Page: 05:20
Well, first of all, I would like to say, because you are very humble in this, but for everyone listening, you know, I tangentially have Casey to thank for my career, because he was there in the inception of it. And had he not driven me to Sony studios, and went on a lot with me for my first audition. I never would even be in this position. Because I didn't have a ride there. I didn't have an agent, I didn't have anything. And this man right here drove me to Sony studios to pretend like I was a courier. Why would I need two people to make a delivery? I've no idea. But it was pre 911. So they let us get away with it. But I thank you for for even taking me there. Remember, like we do both ended up auditioning for the same thing. And so when I tell my story of how my Inception came to be, you are always ubiquitously a part of that story. And so it's just interesting to be able to, to to say it now like in front of you, because I've talked about you tirelessly in interviews about what happened.
Casey: 06:58
Yeah. And I appreciate you saying that, but but I have to I have to make it clear, because maybe it hasn't been clarified. What actually took place at that time when we were doing all that. So, Page said, "Hey, man, let me, let's go. I want to go along with you. And let's be couriers and act like we're mail couriers, because we first got on because I had the audition. So we drove on the lot. But then we walked around with the mail courier, like with the headshots and we actually like mail couriers, right?
Page: 07:36
No, you got them mistaken. That wasn't what happened? No, neither one of us had the audition.
Casey: 07:44
Okay, okay.
Page: 07:45
Neither one of us had the audition. Don McKay from the Idaho Shakespeare Festival, had met up with me. And he told me about the breakdowns, which I didn't even know what that was. And he saw there was a role called the Kennedys. And it was an aspiring DJ, in this thing. So he's the one who told me to pose as a courier, which is, when I told you that, and you went with me. And when we got on the lot from saying, "Hey, we're here to drop off this package at Deborah Barilsky's office, we went to the spot we gave, you know, we, we saw there was a casting director and assistant casting director and I was like, we want to go to the casting director. The assistant's gonna kick us out. The assistant came out her room, and she's like, "Can I help you?" And we're both there. And we're like, yeah, we're here to audition for the Kennedys. And she's like, we're not even auditioning yet. We just got here. And I was like, okay, so I gave her my headshot, and resume. And she looked at it, and she saw no representation. And she was like, are you representing yourself? I was like, yeah. And then he was like, Oh, well, here's mine, too. And then you gave her your headshot and resume. Basically, like kicked us out. And so you were so like, like, embarrassed by that whole situation, cuz I was like, "Oh, we own a lot now, we could just walk around and start giving our headshots out everywhere. And you was like, "Hey, if you want to do that, you can come back here on your own. Like, I have an agent and it's okay. We're here, but I'm not doing that." A week later--
Casey: 09:35
This is what I want to point out. Page. Like, you see how I was like, No, I think we have to go through this channel. This channel this channel. We have to go through these steps to do that. And I was all embarrassed. But Page, you are the reason like you're you don't have you were you were like we're here. Let's do this. Like you didn't have the wall or you didn't have, nothing was stopping you. And that's that's the power like it wasn't me. I helped you to get on the lot. And I went with you. In fact, I only partially have some of that. But for me, I was like, "Oh, no, we have to follow these steps." But you were like, "Screw the steps. I want to bypass all that, get into the studio, start dropping my headshot." That's what I'm talking about. You first off, there is something about you specifically as a human that was like, like, I don't there. I don't have a there's there's no like, you know, there's no, I don't, it's almost like you didn't see that velvet rope. You're like, No, I'm pushing beyond that.
Page: 10:43
Yeah, I don't live my life in circumspect.
Casey: 10:47
Exactly. And that's what I'm saying. And that's, and you live your life like that now, whereas, like, some of our friends, and we're on this chat together, some of our friends are like, "man, I don't know, if I should be talking this way to somebody, or do this with somebody or do that with somebody," but you, you don't have that, you don't do that. And maybe I'm trying to figure out if it's intentional, if it's innate, a natural instinct of who you are as a human, because that has served you on so many levels, for increasing your your level of success, you know? And I want more people to be able to absorb, like, I want to inspire people, but when when you share your story to inspire them, so they know that they can do these same things. And they can absorb whatever Page essence there is, and they can they can figure out what what makes you you so that they can figure out how to do it themselves. Because they, a lot of people have that barrier, that natural barrier that they're putting in front of themselves.
11:54
I think it takes audaciousness. It takes audaciousness to be auspicious. And I truly believe that, and particularly if you're a certain type of person. So, um, you know, I think it was intrinsic in me to be that way. Because I come from Detroit. I come from the meanest, toughest situations in the world. And I was able to escape it, you know, and it's a survival thing. And so if I was able to escape life, there, then coming here in the business is easy, is nothing is nothing, because I've seen and escaped death. Right? So, so that that same survival instinct, transfers over into your everyday life. And so for me, you know, I tell my son this all the time, this is one of the jewels that, and I will just tell my son, I tell you guys this too. What do I say? What's my little, what's my little adage that I say all the time in a group chat of advice. A closed mouth-
Casey: 13:25
Doesn't get fed.
Page: 13:27
Exactly. "A closed mouth doesn't get fed." And, and that's, that's, that's how I live my life. Like you. You need help. You need to be able to ask for help. You need to be able to take chances. Because if you don't, then you can have regrets. And so for me, I take chances, you know, I, I bank on myself, I gamble with myself, because I believe in it. And that's how you become auspicious. So, you know, best. That's what we did. Look what happened. We left Sony studios that day. I think they called us back in like four days to actually come for a real audition that we both got.
Casey: 14:24
Did I go too?
Page: 14:26
You went too you went for an audition for the son. Oh, I was the son. You were the Right, right.
Casey: 14:33
You got the audition just like I got the audition. So you're you're part of the story was mixed up because you you were thinking that you had to audition but you didn't have to audition initially. Well, we snuck in and we gave her stuff. Then you got the audition, just like me. And that's when we we went back and um and then I got called back after that, and you know, the rest is history, but it comes from that, that that fortitude of just going for it. And, and and, you know, that's just kind of how I've been in my life and everything that I do, you know, I kind of push the envelope. Right.
Page: 15:20
And see how far I can go.
Casey: 15:24
And I mean, I think that, that served you so so well because, you know, if people if you don't ask you never you never know. You have to, like, attack your dreams, I think. And a lot of us, I think we get so consumed about, you know, the right channels to go through. And that we don't want to you know, we worry about so much about what people will think of us. So we don't ask for the things we want in life. And I think what you what you're saying your auspiciousness is that you you ask? But you but and and the cool thing about you Page is that you don't just ask but you but if you get turned down you ask again.
16:17
Yeah, that's the audaciousness in me The audaciousness makes me makes me knock on the door. No, you don't want none, I'll come back tomorrow. I'm back. No, you still don't want none? That's alright, I'll come back next week. It's me again. You know, and at a certain point, whether whether people and I do that for everything. That's how I live my life.
Casey: 16:43
And I know that, I know.
Page: 16:47
Yeah. So so. So at a certain point. Because listen, people's lives aren't sitting there waiting to help you. They're not sitting there waiting to say yes to you. They're living their lives. So sometimes you need to nudge someone. Sometimes people get busy. Sometimes, you know, they need to see "Alright, you are serious about this. Let's Alright, fine. Okay, here,
Casey: 17:16
Yeah, "You wore me down enough." But wearing someone down is not a bad thing. I think that's the thing is like, people don't don't want to bother other people. They don't want to push for their for what they want or their dreams or what they you know, what they want to achieve in life. Right? Right. They need to flex, because if they don't flex, they don't they are not known. They are not perceived. They're not seen if they're not flexing out to where, "Oh, I see it now. Okay, fine. Let's do this." You know?
Page: 17:46
Right.
Casey: 17:47
And I that's one thing I learned from you, you actually taught me that. Because I didn't know it before. I thought I had to go through certain channels. And actually, what's funny is like, we have a lot of, you know, we focus a lot on business people, entrepreneurs, I think you are one of the best at the business of acting. And I'll tell you why. Because, um, and I feel like you've done it, you've done it, where it's like, you know, you went off book, you went off script, you did not take on a certain direction, say, "Oh, I need to go this way. Because this is how people normally go." Because if you did that, chances are you would not be where you're at right now. And I think you are one of the best at the business of acting. The other thing I know about Page is that he's an awesome dad. And he has some of the most loving relationships with his kids that I've seen and it's not a normal, it's not like what you'd assume to be the kind of relationship you'd have with your kids. And that's what I absolutely love about him, about you, Page is that you the way you you and your son Tim, the way you guys-- and Tim is found in in tons of, by the way everybody, Tim has found in tons of like, Pages videos-- and what I love is that like Page, you do not stop just being you. So like that's the that's the key thing I think is that your authentic self. You you push the envelope, you have awesome relationships with your kids. And and at the same time. You know, it's gotten you where you are today. So what so and for those who haven't seen it, the Upshaw's on Netflix is an awesome show. Can you explain a little bit about your character on that show?
Page: 20:03
Well, I don't play a dad on that show. I don't know what that transition was for. But I do play a
Casey: 20:14
For me, the reason I mentioned it was because I, I, I think of like you are, I'm just talking about your authenticity. So you know, when I, I know you as a human and know you as a good dad and know that you know, you are the like the teddy bear guy, you are an absolutely giant teddy bear. So I was just validating what you were mentioning before, and doing it through your kids.
Page: 20:46
Well, thank you. Thank you for that. It means a lot coming from the type of dad that you are. Which is like the quintessential dad. You are. You know, I'm an esoteric dad, you are the quintessential Dad,
21:08
I don't know what an esoteric dad is. You need to explain that.
21:13
Like you said, I'm off kilter. I'm not the things that I do or say are how I would relate to my kids would not be the typical way that the suburban dad would do. You know,
Casey: 21:29
Wait, you're saying I'm a suburban dad?
21:31
Yeah, of course. You're like a soccer dad.
Casey: 21:35
Wait a minute, you're calling me a soccer dad.
21:38
Yeah, like you. You are like, honey, I would I know, I would show up. I watch a TV show on ABC. The dad on that show. That's how you are with your kids. Like you are like, what you mean? You're perfect. Like, you're, you're like the manual when they teach you "When you become a dad, this is how you speak to your children. Like Hey, buddy," like you're that you're like that. You're perfect. You're the quintessential dad. I'm not that. I'm like different. I mean, it's still the same way. It's still the same love and want for their well being and to grow to be awesome, amazing people. It's just, you know, done differently, like yours. Yeah. So anyway,
Casey: 22:36
But but you would bend over backwards for your kids. The reason-
Page: 22:39
I would. But I would say "Sit your ass down before I punch you thorugh this wall." And you would never say that.
Casey: 22:49
I mean, I might not say sit your ass down before I punch you thorugh this wall. But I might I might come at, I might have a little moment of that. But
Page: 22:58
You might say, "Hey, buddy,"
Casey: 23:00
"Do you think you could just calm down, a little you know we're--"
Page: 23:04
"I'm gonna have to take what I have to take your things away, your toy,"
Casey: 23:10
"Hey, I hear I hear what you're saying. And I totally understand. But listen, we don't do this, then we're not gonna be able to do--" No, but listen
Page: 23:17
This is not a this is not a euphemism. He is this is literally how he would talk to you.
Casey: 23:27
That's not true. Here's the thing, like, I see you as a dad, and you actually give me permission to be, to allow myself to have feelings and speak to my kids like humans, understandably trying to raise them as good humans, but not necessarily that I always have to be like, you know, like, "Okay, now let's, let's calm down. Let's just sit down. We'll think about our feelings and talk us through our feelings. Like, like we you can only do that so much. So you know. No, I look at you. I still look at you as the quintessential--
Page: 24:09
We learn from each other. We learn from each other.When I was watching you and Diana like and I watched the way to your deal with Dale. Like, like when she was she was working me out. She was at work. Dale needed her attention. Yeah, me. I be like, "If you don't go-" he picks Dale up. Carries her and her arms, rocks her, while she's training me, and "You see this honey", like, and teaching her, too and I'm like, "What the hell is going like, what?" And I was like hey, maybe I should be more patient.
Casey: 24:51
I love that. Because you looked at it and I saw you study it and you're like, "maybe I should do that," your eyes were like-- you took so much from that moment.
Page: 25:02
I was like, "This is what you do? Okay."
Casey: 25:05
I look at how you talk to Tim. And I think it's- I like it. It's refreshing. It's refreshing how you have a friendship, such a level of friendship, as well as fatherhood. connection with him.
Page: 25:17
Yeah. But then sometimes, sometimes, sometimes. That confluence is confusing. Because, you know, when when things become serious, it forces him to have to separate the two. So his natural instinct of how he will react, he now has to kind of juggle to see where it is, is, because if he reacts, if I'm being serious, and I'm like, some kind of way, like in real dad mode, and he reacts in a way, like how he'd normally react, that could be bad.
Casey: 26:14
Right? So he has to navigate and know. And that that can be confusing. And sometimes he's he comes at it from that friend perspective. And it's misconstrued, and then things get out of hand. You guys don't talk? A little bit.
Page: 26:30
Yeah. Yeah. So so so. So that's, that's the drawback of it. But anyway, let me go to this character, I play the character Duck. He did 7-10 in prison, because he did a crime with Mike Epps character Bennie. And he took the rap for him, because he's very loyal. And he's just getting out of jail, and Mike gets him a job at the shop. And it's them being back together. You know, this character is very fun. You know, he's very earnest and simple. You know, he is funny, because of that earnest nature that he has. And its a very fun role. And when does this come out? This podcast?
Casey: 27:26
Ah, probably a couple months from now.
Page: 27:32
Okay, so, we also have been picked up for season two.
Casey: 27:38
Oh! Congrats.
Page: 27:38
It is awesome. You know, we were top we were number one in the country for a couple of weeks. And we were top 10 for a month. And its an all African American show, so that's unheard of. So, um, you know, it's a great show, is a great character. I chose to play a character, which, you know, I don't always do. A lot of times, my characters are kind of, like, close to me. Just in the given circumstances. But with this, you know, I put on a voice a certain way of moving in a certain rhythm and the way I speak like I actually like made a character and so that's been kind of fun to do.
Casey: 28:31
What I like about your character is it kind of reminds me of some of your other characters that I've seen you do, where you do an old man walk and an old man voice a little, but you didn't make this man old? He is your age. He's like, he's like, "You want me to-" like, and it's so subtle,
Page: 28:48
My age is old now. My age is old now.
Casey: 28:56
But what I love about it is that he this character, the character it actually is super subtle, like the way like you're naturally big funny. You can do big funny.
Page: 29:06
Yes. Thats my thing is, I like big funny.
Casey: 29:10
This is like is like quiet funny. And it's like pausing, pause funny. Like right and and, and, and I love that you take those moments in this in it with this show. And in this character, you're like pausing and taking that moment.
Page: 29:28
Yeah, and he kinda talks slow.
Casey: 29:31
Yeah. It's a good character. Now, let's talk about this. So now you is this known, that Meg, the Meg Two is is coming out, is shooting, right? So yeah. Okay, so if you guys know the Meg, Page was in it, and his character was a scientist in it, right like, like a marine biologist, I think?
Page: 30:01
Yeah.
Casey: 30:01
And, and now you've come back for the second movie, which is going to be shooting next year, right? The beginning of next year. Yeah, yeah. But how is how different is that character compared to what they've told you, how different is the character from the first Meg compared to the second Meg?
Page: 30:22
Why I haven't read the script yet. But, um, you know, they did say that, cuz since then, I had lost weight, a lot of weight, and I had gotten in a much better shape, which, by the time we do that, I need to get back in that much better shape, because I'm starting to look like the character that you already saw.
Casey: 30:47
That's not true.
Page: 30:48
So so. So with that, you know, they they adjusted, they adjusted DJ's character. And they they ascribe it to the turmoil that he went through, caused him to now want to train and be, or better prepared for the possibility of things to come.
Casey: 31:19
So, and I, you, I guess you'll see when the when the script comes out if he's gonna be this action hero or not, but Page, you lost, like 100 pounds, right? How much did you lose? When you went through-
Page: 31:33
I did, at one point, lose 100 pounds, which was incredible and awesome.
Casey: 31:39
I know how hard you worked to get there, too. And so, and I thought that was amazing that you got to a point where, you know, you were like, I can't, this, this cannot be my reality anymore, and you did something about it. And I know, the time and energy you put into, to, like, you know, change eating habits, like I know, all the like the intermittent fasting that you did, like everything. And so, you know, so congratulations on coming through to that. So now, it's what's cool is that, you know, this, this character is going to reflect that, that, that change as well. And, you know, I'm hoping I see you as an action hero, just like kicking ass.
Page: 32:30
Yeah, me too. I, you know, for me, like, I can't walk around, like you walk around fit. I can't walk around fit. Because I enjoy the pleasures of life. I enjoy doing what I want to do. And I enjoy eating the way I want to eat. And so for me, I'm going to perpetually Yeah, see, I'm gonna perpetually seesaw, I'm gonna go up and down. Because when there's nothing directly in front of me to prepare for, um, you know, I, you know, I'm, I'm a little more lax, but then I get laser focused when I see a deadline. Like when I know, okay, this date, I have to be prepared for such and such. I can hone in on that. And, and be ready and prepare for that. And since right now, I don't have anything that is pressing me in this moment. You know, I'm still working out. But I'm not like, fully watching what I eat, which is causing me trouble. You know?
Casey: 33:54
How do you how do you create, always, how do you create a, like, a personal goal deadline for yourself constantly? You know what I mean? Like, is there a way to do that where you're like, you can create those like, Oh, that's what I'll focus on for this month or something like that. And look at it like that, like
Page: 34:15
Well that's a struggle that, I have because, you know, my deadlines come from, like, real things. You know, like if I know I gotta shoot this month of something, that's like a real thing that I have to work for. If I if I tried to, to just concoct something on my own that that is not even real. Then you know, that's harder for me to be dedicated to. So so it's tough man. I wish I could be like, like you or are like, like, Dom or like, these other people who just don't walk around and they live their life. They live a lifestyle that is just healthy all the time. And so they always just look the same way. But I just--
35:11
What if I, what if I, and now because I know you have a trainer, but like, I've been thinking about this. Like, doing, I know you don't want to do these things. But what if we did like an obstacle course. And you needed to do it every month? And we needed to get ready for it every month, there was this thing that you needed to do like a like a race or a tough mudder? or something? Would that keep you without keep you like? Would you? Would you look at that as Oh, I need to get fit for this? Like, I know, it's all?
Page: 35:43
Absolutely not. Because I wouldn't even do it. First of all, I wouldn't do it in the first place. And so second of all, that will never work for me. The only thing that's going to work for me is actual work, like active work where I have to look some way for it. Because I would just say no to your obstacle course.
36:02
But what about like, you're still putting videos out. So you still wouldn't want to do for your own content, or like,
Page: 36:08
And that's the sad thing. Because when I'm not completely happy with how I look, the frequency in which I post new content is apparent. And so for the past few months, I haven't been shooting much real new content, because I just can't be bothered, you know, but you can tell when I'm focused. Because the pictures the photo shoes is coming out. I'm constantly when my shirt off in my stories. I'm putting out all these different videos, because I'm happy I got all this energy. You know what I mean? When we when when you don't feel good when you don't like the way you look, it affects you in every way. And so I know you think, well, because it makes sense, right? You're like, "Well listen, if the food that you're eating doesn't make you happy, doesn't make you feel good, doesn't make you look good, then why do it?" And the answer is, because it's delicious. And so, so so I can I can I can deprive myself from these things for a certain period of time. But not, I can't just go through my life, eating green juices and whatever the hell else that thing is that you have,
37:37
You need, you know, I feel like you need to get, we need to get to a point where if you start having urges, someone comes over and just slaps you. And,
Page: 37:48
I did a video like that before. I did a video with Tim like that, where every time I grabbed something he would just skip into the scene and just knock that junk out my hand. But like then, at the end, I like snuck somewhere. And I was getting some Popeye's and he just skipped and came out of nowhere, knocked the whole box into the sky. He grabbed the chicken. And he bit it himself and then slammed it down. And then it ended with this big booty Asian girl. And I was like, "whoa, I'm about to eat the hell out of this." And then he comes into the scene, smacks her on the ass and then takes her away from me. And I'm like, "NO!"
Casey: 38:39
I mean, I feel like like pain is the only thing that will stop you. So I don't know, maybe we should do like an MMA thing where we get you into MMA.
Page: 38:48
Why bro? I have a bad knee and I'm old. I'm not interested in doing anything.
Casey: 38:52
You're not old. What are you talking about? It's okay.
Page: 38:54
But you are, your structure is different than mine. Your structure lives in a 151-160 area, regardless, like you know, I bet guess when I was 150? In middle school.
39:11
Okay, okay. Yeah. But then what? Okay, where are you now? Oh, you don't have to tell me.
Page: 39:22
I will not get on that scale, because I don't want to see what is go be looking back in me. But you know, I will say my kids being here kind of that kind of messes me up because they only eat a certain type of food and when they eat that it kind of gets me to eat that too.
Casey: 39:41
Yes. Yeah. It's like nesting. You just, you got you know, yeah. And, and you you're in a good place, and I think you have been happy and sometime when you're happy. You kind of, you know, you calm down like you know and you're like, I probably can eat that and then you just feel unhappy at that point. Because of the food you're eating because but the rest of life is actually doing I mean it looks I mean to me, you look happy in the rest of your life, you know what I mean?
Page: 40:13
Yeah man I'm in a I'm in a good space right now. You know I'm in a good space of things that I have to look forward to, the show just got picked up you know we'll try and see what the situation is with the Meg, you know. I'm working on his book, that the you know I'm getting texts about that right now. And so I got I got three big promising things I'm not currently working on another album right now or mixtape which I should be, honestly, but you know, I'm just not in the headspace to create another musical project as of now because I got like other stuff going on, but I'm in a good space. Now. You know, I just got to get my eating right and my my weight back down and then I'm gonna be perfect.
Casey: 41:09
To me we're always battling something. Yeah. We're always battling something.
Page: 41:15
Yeah. You always got to battle something to move forward. Otherwise you're stagnant. You're stuck , and then you're caught in the doldrums.
41:23
That's right. So Page, thank you, I'm going to end it there because like that's, that's what it is, moving forward. You're always going to be faced with something, keep going. So thank you, man. I love you. I appreciate you coming on today. And you guys there are gonna be show notes in the, in the, in the blog where this is posted. And thanks again.