We Have the High Ground!

Today we're discussing Captain C's Star Wars phase and the finale of The Boys on Amazon. Also, we will be ranking favorite movies from Phase 1 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Stay tune for shenanigans!

And may be the Force be with you, I guess.

Transcript

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What's up, world? This is the Cannonball Podcast. I am your host, Captain C. With me always, we have crew here. We have Ginger Beer.

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Hey, hey, hey.

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We have one eye.

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Hi, what's up, y'all? How you doing?

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And we have the magnificent strong art.

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Magnificent! Magnificent!

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Can you hear him from right there? Uh I think he can't.

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Okay, can you talk again? We should have done the test before we started.

SPEAKER_04 0:37

Well, I mean Well, to be fair, you weren't to be fair, I didn't move you over there until just now. Well, anyway, uh we're fine. Alright. We'll continue. Dude, this is like a back end stupid podcast. We're fine.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Well well, I mean, I mean, as long as our topics are relevant, right?

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Well, they're always gonna be relevant.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Yeah, because a lot has happened um over the last two weeks. Yeah, yeah, a lot has happened.

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Alright, so let's get going. The topics are today. We're gonna do the boys season finale. Uh, we're gonna talk about that. Um, within that, we'll talk about the deed versus Aquaman. It will be a quick one, won't be in it, it won't be anything like that. The other thing we're gonna talk about, we're gonna talk about the best phase one MCU movies. Now, that does not include the Avengers, these are only the solo movies.

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Yeah, Avengers. A teen teen teen movies don't count. Yeah, because the the well there were crossovers, you know. Well, that makes sense. They shouldn't count. Only the solo, yeah.

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Yeah. After that, we're gonna talk about my Star Wars kick, what's been going on, why I've been going through down the rabbit hole. Won't be any review there, but it's going down the rabbit hole.

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My guess is uh May the 4th.

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A little bit. It can't start no, and then uh we're gonna talk about Skip Me Doo 2. One of us has saw it again recently. Um we're gonna give our reviews there. We all know the story. We're also going to throw in two episodes of the recent Skip Me Doo that Ginger Beard saw because he wants to talk about what he saw. And then Reddit Story. Or strong arm, yeah. Strong arms, and then that's it. No, then midget. Midget, yeah. The midget.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

All right, well, we'll start with this. Oh, dude. Oh, do it small people. Yeah, talk about them.

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Yeah, no. So uh we were driving up from where I live, me and Shaw, me and Ginger Beer. Yep. And then Oh, sorry, you yeah, I'll tell.

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Yeah, I tell.

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A radio show that I like to listen to, The Bonfire. This is one of their it's one of their more shit.

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He dropped this is in uh account uh he dropped what I dropped uh none do. And he went himself.

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Wow, you peed yourself.

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Yeah, an excellent page news.

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Red Page. All right, so the one so the uh story is kind of like uh highlights or uh it's from their it's from like uh one of their best loves.

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Yeah.

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So in the thing, uh they're talking about like uh people being afraid of little people, like like uh little dwarfs, like a yeah, that that uh that uh fear. Uh and Dan Soder brings up that his aunt, this comedian Dan Soder, he brought up that his aunt is afraid of little people, to the point where when they watch TV and a little person comes on, she literally says, You have to change the channel, I'm going to flip out.

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That's literally like my fiance in snakes.

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Yeah. So the reason why is uh apparently she was on a shitload of acid in San Francisco. She used to take acid when she was younger. And her and her friend went to a hotel, and at this hotel there was a midget convention. So when the elevator opened up and all they saw was like a flock of midget people, they just probably just scream in that acid trip. Then that helped for those that linked in their cells too, probably. Probably not. Imagine, imagine your Fred, you're like a normal hype person, and you're with your buddy Gary. Yeah, you're like, don't worry, Gary. What's what's the worst that can happen? You're amongst your people, and then all you hear is a you know, you're in a room in the background, just screaming out for Bloody Murray.

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Just screaming Bloody Murray, like, where were the normal people? Where's the rest of you?

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Am I am I in the blend of us?

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Like, oh my god. The bunch of kids. No, it's it's just like I'm sorry, not just made me and him, me like, man, I wish I was there at that convention. Me too. Where's the rest of you? I would be like, no, this just made the convention. That's what I would say too.

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I was telling, I was telling I can't see uh like like who whoever wins the uh um convention will will like there's a whatever contest, like like I don't even imagine uh two hot um like one. Okay, relax. Uh um so these two so one stripper addressed as Dorothy, and and then and another is like which is like um total just just to be like that and then image in my head is I don't know why I popped up like a small a small person in a crown, like a cigar, and it's just it's like it's like yeah, yeah, I've been to both stuff. Yeah, I've been to a lot of freaky stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm in the little people too.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

So uh sorry, sorry, sorry, but um I'm gonna say I still can't believe they're actually a con of that.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

No, it's a convention. It's not a con. It's a con. Is it? It's midget con.

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Yeah.

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Is it so there's a con of everything, John? There's there's micro penis con where like all the micro penises show up. I believe it. Okay, so there yeah, there's fat con. It's called fat ass con.

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Go fuck yourself.

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There's also horror conventions. There's uh horror or horror comic on horror. Well, there's also horror conventions. It's called Porn. It's called Porn Con.

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Porn Con. It's called um the Dole Expo, whatever you're doing.

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It's called Woody Con.

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Yeah, Woody Con.

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I got Woody.

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That's the name of that's the name of the awards.

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Yeah, the Woody Awards. I got Woody.

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Anyway, no, there's also DisneyCon. Well Disney.

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Oh, that's like that's like a Disney World. Yeah.

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Disney adults are the scariest things. Oh I agree.

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Bronies.

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Yeah, it's my little pony concept.

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I'm over that. We're less.

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No, you would be going with Hasman Hotel con and you would go after every angel person.

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That's part of horror con and watch yourself.

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What?

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That's part of horror con.

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I'm gonna watch myself.

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Yeah, because Hasman Hotel is part of horror con, so watch yourself.

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Yeah, I think so.

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It's not that scary for sure. I'll give you that. No, it's not scary. It's based on supernatural shit, though.

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True. Well, yeah, I mean it's there. Like a like Dragon's not scary anymore because he's more uh like nor is Frankenstein.

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And it's it would be there. That's true. Yes. There you go.

SPEAKER_06 8:14

I'll say like actual supernatural like.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

Yeah, there's also a supernatural calling. Very Kruger accounts, right?

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Kruger, yes, it's horror, yes. No, there's also a supernatural convention. There's it's called Ghost Tales, where people who give their stories about hauntings that they've experienced in their life.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Wow. It's the first one hearing about this. Like uh It's not a well-known convention.

SPEAKER_04 8:39

It's not.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean it's not it's not as um um trendy as like Well, yeah, because most people think that they're crazy.

SPEAKER_04 8:46

It's like alien, it's like alien con. Oh my god. Where all the people think that they were abducted by aliens.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Oh, there's also there's also anime cons.

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Oh well that's that's called the colour. That's mm. Well that, yeah. I'm saying isn't well that was kinda normal. It's normal, as yes.

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There's the last and final level of cons.

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Furry. Furry con which one eye would be a part of.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

No, it would not be. She are your Japanese critics.

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I but I wouldn't go to that.

SPEAKER_06 9:22

Yes, I like monster girls, but they're not furry. Tag teaming.

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Who?

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I have one eye and ginger beard.

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Would be tag teaming. Ginger beard doesn't like furries.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Oh what the fuck? Ew no.

SPEAKER_04 9:37

Gingerbeard's not a furry. I mean, I mean, I mean like alien girls, but alien girls does that's for alien. I mean, well, sometimes Josh, do you want to plug this in? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

I don't know. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 9:55

Wait, well, do you be there at the next area? Do you want rain?

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Do the do the uh do the avatar?

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Yeah, yeah, your tech don't clap some alien cheeks.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Like can I have a speak first and said, do you avatar about cows furries?

SPEAKER_04 10:16

Yes. No, they don't. They're cat as aliens. Also, they don't have fur.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

That's true, just skin, right?

SPEAKER_04 10:23

Yeah, they're just blue, they're just blue-skinned aliens.

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They're blue cat creature aliens.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

Not even cat creatures, they're just blue-skinned aliens. Because cat creatures would would imply that they have cat features. All that have all they have is a tail. And the nose. And the ears. No, they don't. I would not count that as a cat like nose.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

Alright, well, we'll follow a lot a lot of people would, you know. Like there are people who um associate Navi with well cats and monkeys.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

Well we're all we're related to monkeys.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Blue rabbit is fuck yeah. Well no, but by chicken.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

Yeah, no, but yeah, but we're related to champs. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, that's not like this that's not really a big jump.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Uh if there was a Star Wars like character as a cat, well what what they it counts furry?

SPEAKER_04 11:23

I mean I mean there's one, there's one that's a werewolf.

SPEAKER_06 11:27

Yeah. It's liter now, it's literally just a werewolf mask that they got at a costume store.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

No, it's natural werewolf. He literally looks like a dog. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

I can't believe what I can't believe I'm I'm asking these these questions.

SPEAKER_04 11:45

Are you trying to question whether I I'm I'm not a furry or not, because uh if you're into alien, there's a difference. You're into alien checks.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Or well, I do well hang on. There is um there's a goddess that's a a cat up from Egypt, you know, and she's yeah, pass that?

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Yeah, yeah, but that's a god. It's not that's not really a furry that's not really a furry. See, a furry is that that implies that you want to fuck someone in a costume, in a fur costume. Do you want to do that? Hell no.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

I don't want to do that either.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

Maybe but I don't. Maybe a girl will like just the cat ears, but that's all that doesn't count as being a furry.

SPEAKER_04 12:29

A furry is someone who literally will fuck someone who's dressed like an animal.

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Or or the or the Playboy bunny of them.

SPEAKER_04 12:38

They don't count. They don't count as fur.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Yeah, actual furries freak me the fuck out.

SPEAKER_04 12:41

Well, no, because they wear fur costumes. That's what they are. They count themselves as animals. Just because a girl wears cat ears at a convention for Comic-Con does not mean she's a furry.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

She might be catwoman. Or demi-human. Or demi-human from an anime or some shit.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Well, I'll be honest, um, um the way um um anthroammel characters are drawn like to mainstream media.

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They're drawn to be they're drawn to be sexy because they want to appeal to sex appeal. That's why they're drawn that way.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Yeah, but I'd rather have just humans like that.

SPEAKER_04 13:25

That's fine. Then you're not a fur then relax, Jim. You're you're not a furry.

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Or okay, not in a bestiality.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Or or you or or aliens. Well, like um, there's cat and people on Star Trek, right?

SPEAKER_04 13:39

I mean, no.

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No.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

There's no cat people.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

I don't even want Star Trek that much, and I know there's not cat people on Star Trek.

SPEAKER_04 13:45

There's not even cat people in Star Wars.

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No.

SPEAKER_04 13:47

There are werewolf type people, but there's no cat people.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

There's a little Lemur people. I remember that one.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

Yeah, that's Lemur.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

That's not like monkeys.

SPEAKER_04 13:58

I remember them.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Are they Scottish for some reason?

SPEAKER_04 14:02

I think, yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Oh, already the right valve.

SPEAKER_04 14:06

Yeah. And a total bitch made. Well, the the leader was, not uh not the people.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Yeah. It's not our war.

SPEAKER_04 14:15

Yeah, no, but no, that's the whole point, though. It's that like like then you're not a furry. Okay, well, all right. Yeah, just because you like a girl who wears bunny ears or cat ears does not make you a furry. What makes you a furry is if she's in an actual fursuit.

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And you're like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

But you still want to fuck that. Yeah, no, yeah, no. That makes you a furry.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Alright, alright, well, okay.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

It's not like him. Like, he'd literally like he literally would fuck a Japanese monster girl. And that is a furry.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Uh but it's not.

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It is.

SPEAKER_06 14:52

It's a furry. Like a scaly.

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I call that a furry.

SPEAKER_06 14:56

Scaly.

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Like what sh whatever she was like on like all like on the waist go down, what she's like, I thought what she's uh picking.

SPEAKER_04 15:07

Dude, literally, he sent a picture of me of a woman who literally is from the waist down snake, and he said he'd fuck it.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

I know you'd I know who you're talking about, and I'm like, dude, how do you well, I wanna know.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

I I he also said he fucked he also said he fucked one that looked like a horse.

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Whoa, whoa, it's true.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

How about the spider one, huh? And the spider too.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Okay, the spider though.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Okay. Hold on, hold on. The blob one?

SPEAKER_06 15:39

No, no, no, no, that's a slime, that's fine, that's a slime. How deep this goes.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

No. No, that's a slime, no. Alright, let's let's let's let's do this another time. I'm not I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not shipwrecking the show for one eye for for one eye Josh's obsession. Whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

What was our uh our topic? I forgot.

SPEAKER_04 15:58

Midget, we're doing midget. How the hell did you you we brought up the cons and we started naming off cons. That's how you get to it.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

I'll get back on track with this, okay? Out of all the midget stories that we've heard on the bonfire, I think my favorite is still the leprechaun one.

SPEAKER_04 16:13

Yes, that one is funny.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

I was hoping they say what's rest of you.

SPEAKER_04 16:19

Well, uh, I didn't play the whole thing, so they actually might have.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_04 16:23

But remember, I didn't play the whole thing, I only played a little snippet of it.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Alright. Well, you wanted to move on? Yes, I would like to move on. Okay. Um, you want to talk about your Star Wars uh yes. So, so we are past May the 4th. If those of you would you don't know what most people know what May the 4th is, man.

SPEAKER_04 16:46

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Alright, alright. Well, well I'll still.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

You have to live under a rock to not know May the 4th is Star Wars Day.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

May the 4th be with you, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:57

I actually was working May the 4th, and someone came in as Darth Brennan, and my work. Most people dress up in Star Wars shit.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

Well, yeah, I mean, like it's it's Star Wars Day. Yeah, it's uh it's um it's at this point Star Wars Day should be classified as a national holiday. I agree. Yes of how many nerds dress up in Star Wars shit.

SPEAKER_06 17:14

The culture is the fourth, fifth, and sixth we should have off.

SPEAKER_04 17:19

That's true.

SPEAKER_06 17:20

For Star Wars, the fifth to get drunk as shit. Yes. And the sixth to recover.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Yes. I think it's gonna be a religion in the hundred years. It is a religion.

SPEAKER_04 17:30

It's our religion. Yeah, it's the religion of the Jediism.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

I follow it sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 17:35

Yeah, I I I beat one-eyed Josh with a lightsaber. What the fu over the back of the head. Then you would win an honest fight, you would lose, bro. No, I'd win. No, you would lose. I'd wait. You would lose. It'd only take one it would only take one second to beat one eye. No, not okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Despite that, what describe your um your um your journey, I guess?

SPEAKER_04 18:00

The reason why I got into the Star Wars kick was mostly because of all the lightsaber ads on YouTube, because there's these cool, like, I saw this cool Darth Vader. So I own the original Darth Vader, like, you know, LED lightsaber. Yeah, yeah. That used to be sold in Borders. You know, you you guys know what Borders is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Borders? Yeah, the bookstore.

SPEAKER_08 18:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so there's a so they used to sell Star Wars lightsabers in the Borders. One of them was Darth Vader. I also have Yoda, Mace Wendu, Luke Skywalker, both green and blue. I own a lot of the lightsabers. I also have Darth Redman. Or no, uh what's his name? Uh no. I hate Darth Vader. No, it's uh the the cross guard. Oh Redden. Kyle Ren. Yeah, Kyler. I own Kyle Ren's crossguard, which is cool. Oh yeah. It's a cool lightsaber. It's it's a cool design. Well, yeah, but there was this one online, it's the Darth Vader one, and it's uh way like it's way better. Like it's it's movie accurate, it's heavy as shit.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah, I'll be honest.

SPEAKER_04 19:09

I never knew um like light sabers like different like Well you the reason why the that's that so you do you know the lore behind the kyber crystal? Why why each color is different?

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Well, yeah, it's from your uh I do well from your um like alignment for the force, right?

SPEAKER_04 19:31

Yes. So basically, so except for red. Red you have to force.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

You have to make it bleed.

SPEAKER_04 19:36

Yeah, it's called bleeding. Bleed? Yeah, it's called force bleed. You have to literally make your kyber crystal bleed red.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

And that's by doing evil shit with your lightsaber. Yes. Blue and the white is for like purifier.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

Yeah, you pure it.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

You purified the bleeded crystal Ahsoka?

SPEAKER_04 19:52

Yeah, that's why Ahsoka's lightsabers are white. She purified the red crystals.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

Because it was she was redeemed or something, or no, she redeemed them.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

She took them from an inquisitor and redeemed them.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Yeah. Okay, so enough. All right. Blue is basically like you're more green, is more religious with the force, like you're more like pacifists, whereas blue is more physical. Like combat, combat oriented. So, in essence, technically, Qui-Gon is correct, green. Obi-Wan actually should be green, not blue. If you actually think about it, if you watch all of the lore in Obi-Wan, like from the movies, from the from the from the Clone Wars, he actually doesn't he actually doesn't actually favor combat.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

No, he's more defensive as it is.

SPEAKER_04 20:49

And that's why I said he should be green.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Yeah, he's gonna be a green. But even then, he's his he's pretty weak when it comes to the force.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

No, he's not. He's actually very powerful. That is actually a fan thing. When people say Obi-Wan is weak to the forest, it's actually not true. He's actually very powerful in force. We don't know his Metaclorean count. He's actually not a weak force user. He's not like Anakin, who is the strongest with the Menachlorians, but he's not a weak Jedi.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

I didn't say he was a weak Jedi, I just said he's according to Yoda and Mace Windu and Qui-Gon, his own teacher, force ability he lacks.

SPEAKER_04 21:26

Not necessarily. I'm not again. Again, I'm saying, let me say.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:33

Yes. To Mace Windu and Yoda, he lacks in force. And so does Qui-Gon. But in actual canon, Obi-Wan is very strong with the force. He's actually quite strong. In fact, he in battle lets the force dictate how the fight's gonna go, which means he's very force-minded.

SPEAKER_07 21:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

Which is why I said his lightsaber should be green. But that's beside the point.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

On the well on the uh in the original um trilogy, it was only crand blue blue, right?

SPEAKER_04 22:06

No, there is green. Episode six.

SPEAKER_06 22:08

No, they added green just for Return of the Jedi, just because of the scene where like Luke escapes Java.

SPEAKER_04 22:16

They were worried that you couldn't see the blue lightsaber. Yeah, you wouldn't be able to see the blue lightsaber.

SPEAKER_06 22:22

Across the Tatooine Sun in the sky.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

Yeah, the blue Jedi. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:26

That's why we have a green lightsaber.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

But they added all this other stuff later, like the all double horror.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yeah, I hate that. I know. Well, well, that way you ask him you ask him qu well well, okay. I'll be honest, um uh um when they Vader was revealed to be his father, even though um he told um uh I um told Luke that Vader killed him. I do I do like how they fixed it. I just um you know, like uh it turned out to be uh um metaphor.

SPEAKER_04 23:09

So what I told you was true from a Well in reality well in reality I don't I don't hate that because Obi-Wan didn't want to break the boy all because the boy didn't know his father. So it's like I'm not gonna break the kid before.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

But now his own daddy did that for him. I'm saying they I'm saying they they fixed um that one with that um inflammation. But the fact on the fact that um Luke um kissed Leia and it turns out they're well because technically they weren't remember, George Lucas was writing the films as he was filming them, so he didn't know about what he was gonna do with the whole story.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

In actuality, Leia was never supposed to be a sister, right? Uh he never planned that. It was just something that kind of came to him when he was writing the sixth script.

SPEAKER_06 24:11

Yeah, plus it was the 70s and 80s. You know, movies were a lot different back then than what they are today. You could get away with a lot.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

I mean, to be fair, he would have to be fair, in today's world, they would end up fucking.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Star Wars I'm pretty sh sure if well somehow um they decide to um remake the originals.

SPEAKER_04 24:37

They're not gonna remake the originals.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

I'm saying if if they decide to do that, because because because we don't know um how the how they're gonna We don't know what a choice they're they're gonna make.

SPEAKER_04 24:57

You know? But they're not gonna remake the originals.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Well, if they did, I think they would um change the Obi-Wan's to green. Which is fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:09

He should be green. That's the uh my whole argument is correct, then he should be green. But the the the but the thing about it is is like I I thought you were gonna get upset because of the kyber crystals. Like, you don't like how the kyber crystals are being remembered they didn't create they they didn't know what they were doing with the crystals. They just were like, red is the bad guy, blue and green are good guys. I'm not I'm not I don't make big yeah, I'm just well no no, but uh so my reasoning for my kick is not because of the original movie. There, yes, there is a movie coming out, The Mandalorian and Goku. That's not the reason why I'm on that Star Wars kick. I like Star Wars to begin with. It's one of my favorite properties, it's made of four, so yes, I was kind of interested in going through Star Wars again.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:56

But like I have no expectations for this new movie. In fact, from what I've heard, it doesn't sound like it's gonna be a good movie. So I don't know what to make of it.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

So well, dude, it's it's it's Pedro Lupas Skell again, and he we're fatigued.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

It's not just that, I'm fatigued of stupid Star Wars.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Well, yeah, stupid Star Wars. It's getting stupider for some reason.

SPEAKER_04 26:28

That's because Day Dave Faloni, who is the creator of the Clone Wars, was not completely in charge. Now he's completely in charge, so maybe it'll be different.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

Well, yeah, you might uh he might um add some stuff to improve it, you know, like to uh like maybe you know how on the comic folks on the fans will hate um the one um issue and uh and writers um um it helps from old writers, like the reason why I like Dave Falone is I like his take on Darth Vader.

SPEAKER_04 27:07

Darth Vader, like someone asked him, why doesn't Darth Vader talk in the Darth Mull show? And like Feloney is like I don't want Darth Vader because he ruined Darth Vader by having him in so many stuff. So like he's a villain that is overused? Well, no, he's not he's actually not overused. Yeah, he's not, is he? No, he's only in the original movie. He's only on screen for 20 minutes. He's not overused. He is a villain that shouldn't be used as much because the more you try and use him, the more you're gonna say, well, Darth Fair doesn't seem that effective.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

He he's he's he's like he's more of a a brand.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

Well, he's a shadow. He's supposed to be, he's supposed to be like Michael Myers. He's supposed to be scary for the Jedi.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Yeah, he's supposed to material represent uh horror for Star Wars.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

He's a horror character. It's actually true. He's actually a horror character because the minute you hear that you immediately start pissing yourself because you're like, oh, I'm fucked.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

I love his um appearance in the Jedi um Falls Order and Survivor.

SPEAKER_06 28:23

Go on. Both of those were perfect utilizations of Vaders, of Darth Vader, and both were great stories.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

I also liked his inclusion in Rebels. I mean you actually watch season two Rebels where Darth Vader makes his appearance. He's not over season two.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

I don't know, I don't know, it's not a YouTube, I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

Yeah, yeah. He uh he doesn't he doesn't he's his he doesn't overstay his welcome, he's very strong, he doesn't lose to anybody. Basically, you have to like almost drop something on him to run because he will not let you leave. And in the moment where he's dueling Ahsoka, who is his Padawan, and like she stays to fight. I thought they were gonna kill her. And personally, I think they should have. No offense to anyone who likes the Ahsoka series, but I think she should have died there against Darth Vayner. It would have made it more effective. Yeah, it would have been. Well, I feel like it would have closed her, it would have closed her story because like she's Anakin's apprentice, she's not Darth Vayner's apprentice. So, like, and from what they've made is Darth Vahner is a is a completely different personality to Anakin. Anakin is Anakin. Darth Vader is like a second personality that was created, right? Yeah. So it's it he he's not Anakin. And he'll even say, I'm not Anakin Skywalker. I killed him. I am Darth Vader.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Anakin like that, yeah. Like going back to like the uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:55

Yeah, but the other thing too is that like when someone says, well, that makes no sense. Why does Sluke bring him back? It's because he never killed Anakin completely. There were always good things inside of him that were always light side. It's just he was punishing himself. Because if you remember on Mustafar, like he does he is conflicted because of what he did. I mean he's not 100% on the dark side. He did kill a bunch of children. Well, yeah, but again, he's still conflicted. Like he doesn't he's still questioning his if if he what he's doing is right in that moment. Like he doesn't completely turn to the dark side until he sees Obi-Wan and he chokes Padme out. That's when he is yeah, he's completely turned. And I also agree with him though. In his point of view, the Jedi are evil. And I agree with him because if you watch the clone wars and you watch everything and you actually understand everything, the Jedi were just as corrupt as the Senate.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Yeah, I mean, like in my in my point of view, um what they um the Jedi Order, like order really um doing much.

SPEAKER_04 31:15

What is well no, they failed. They failed Anakin. They they they failed. They they were supposed to be they're they're supposed they're called peace, they're called pe peep uh peacekeepers. Peacekeepers, the keepers of the peace. But yet they're but yet they're generals and warriors and like they're like their own paddle ones are turning into soldiers. That's not peacekeepers.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

That's they're even as young as like 10 to 13, yeah, and were sent to the front lines, yeah, on the battlefield, and the they were naive enough that but then but then oh like then there was a spy among them or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 32:01

No, it wasn't a spy, they didn't know that Sidious, the Sith Lord, was in charge of everything, yeah. And they didn't know that he's not a spy, like even Kowduku's not really a spy because Kow Dooku's fall happens about the same time as uh the Sith are revealed in the galaxy. Another thing, too, uh Yoda is at 900 years old. The Sith hadn't been seen in a thousand years, so Yoda has never even seen a Sith. So that little green shit had never seen a Sith, and he is his cocky ass was like, Oh, the Sith are destroyed, they haven't been around for a thousand years. It's like, bitch, you've never seen one. Okay, where is one eye? He went out to talk to his mom, because uh obviously his mom called him.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

Ah, well, he's he's he's missing a lot.

SPEAKER_06 32:56

And right now we're deep in this debate.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Yep, well, hey, well, well, anyway, all right.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yeah, but continue. So I alright. So one of the one of the videos I was watching is called What Ifs, right? What if stories? Yeah. So like there are what if stories on uh YouTube uh about Anakin Skywalkers. Like, what if this Jedi master trained Anakin? Or what if this person did? So like one of them was Qui-Gon. So I agree with the person that did the what if Qui-Gon didn't die and trained Anakin. I do agree with him on one on a couple things. Number one, uh, I don't believe Obi-Wan would die. I think both of them would have lived because uh Qui-Gon is actually in canon, and it's actually true. He's very good at saber combat. His master was fucking Count Dooku, one of the best lightsaber duelists in the Jedi Order. So like he was a very good duelist. He probably, had he not been old, or if he had just taken a step and looked at the surroundings and realized that, like, oh, I see what Darth Maul's trying to do. He's trying to bring me to an area where like I'm screwed.

SPEAKER_06 34:15

Yeah, where I don't have that.

SPEAKER_04 34:20

You know that, you know those uh the gates open? What Quiagon should have done is he should have forced Jump back to be with Obi-Wan and like forced Maul out of that corner.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

What he should have done is just waited in that stance like he was before, even when the thing turned back on.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

No, no, he shouldn't have done that because Maul would have immediately jumped forward and tried to kill him. He should have backed off and went back to where Obi-Wan was. Together, they're safer. Yeah, separated, they're weaker. Because Qui-Gon is sorry, too old to fight Darth Maul because Darth Maul is too athletic. It doesn't matter what he's using. He's too young and too athletic.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

There's a difference. He's too young, too athletic, he's not gonna survive. So what Qui-Gon should have done is he should he should have pulled he should have fell back and sat with Obi-Wan. Because Darth Maul wanted them separated. He can't fight both of them at the same time. It's it's it's too it's too complicated to fight two well-trained Jedi. Yes, Obi-Wan was a padlock, but he's still, you know. He's very trained. Yeah, he's almost a Jedi knight.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

There's like a million. Well not a million not a million dollars, I guess, but um what ifs based on um like decisions um that certain characters make, you know? Well, yeah, well the thing what if Anakin um um kills helped um base window.

SPEAKER_04 35:51

Oh nice. Yeah, there was that, but yeah, it would never have happened.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Well well yeah, but um that's why um I kind of like the idea of a Star Wars um multiverse because uh I want I want uh um um characters to meet um variants of like let's we have like have a have a I I don't because I think the multiverse makes it too muggy.

SPEAKER_04 36:22

Alright, well, I mean we've I mean you've seen great I mean you've seen how DC and Marvel have handled their multiverse is that they're too muggy.

SPEAKER_05 36:32

Well the Marvel Whether story is actu is actually good.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

I think that's not that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the multiverse in the movies. Yeah. You see how they're handling that.

SPEAKER_06 36:44

But uh anyway. If they made something like that for Star Wars with Dave Fallone in full control, like that would be epic.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

It would be epic, but again, I'd like them to just move on. Just talk about other Jedi. Or go to the old republic for God's sakes.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Like how about when it's cyber Darth Revan and Dark Nihilis?

SPEAKER_04 37:05

I think it I don't think that at all. I think you're I think you're wrong.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Wait, you don't like Dark Revelation or Dark Nihilis? Well okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

I want a story of uh of a of a young Dooku, maybe as a teenager or something.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

They do have that. It's called Jedi Stories.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Yeah, okay. Nice, I know.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

Well you know, but not teenagers.

SPEAKER_06 37:29

No, like Tales of the Jedi, Tales of the Empire, and then the third one, Tales of the Underworld.

SPEAKER_04 37:37

Yeah, but Tales of the Jedi.

SPEAKER_06 37:44

Which I love a lot.

SPEAKER_04 37:48

Well, so anyway, so with the what ifs. So I agree with the Quagon one. Anakin wouldn't have fallen.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Yeah, it wouldn't have either.

SPEAKER_04 37:55

Uh Mace Wendu, I don't care what anyone says, fallen. Um Yoda, fallen. Uh Plocoon, no, uh Plocoon, he would have stayed in the light. Yeah. Um I still think he would have stayed in the light with Obi-Wan. It's just Obi-Wan was too young.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

I also think I think one, the only thing I agree with is Obi-Wan, the only way he would have stayed in the light is if on the scene, right after he says, I believe the channel evil, if he No, it wouldn't if that's too late.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

You have to go further back. You have to double back. You have to basically say, like, instead of having Anakin be with the Chancellor, Obi-Wan fought harder to not let them be together.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Yeah, that's I agree with that.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

I mean Because if you if you if you put them together, he's he's fallen.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

I I mean, I don't know. I mean it is. He is this one, we'll get the way that.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

Dude, you have to remember though, in the movie, Anakin wasn't about to hear none of that shit on Mustafar. He wasn't about to hear none of that shit from Obi-Wan. You have to remember, he was like all pissed off with that Obi-Wan was there on Mustafar. So that's why I said you have to double back and not get to that point with Obi-Wan. I still don't think Obi-Wan failed him, though. I think the Jedi Order failed him. I think Obi-Wan did his best.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Yeah, I think Obi-Wan um trusted the oh yep, oh yep, or the order too much.

SPEAKER_04 39:26

Yeah, he trusted too much of the order. He should have he should have done the flaws. And it's uh it's sad to say this, but in his later years, he does he does realize it. He does realize his flaws in his later years. He should have done what Qui-Gon said he was what Qui-Gon would have done, which is basically had Ennikin nowhere near the Jedi Order. And take him off world. Yeah. No, keep him off world. Yeah. Where he's nowhere near the Chancellor, he's nowhere near like the corruption, he's learning how the galaxy works.

SPEAKER_06 39:56

Because remember, he was still with Pad May.

SPEAKER_04 40:00

But you could still have him with Padme.

SPEAKER_06 40:03

He can come back to Corsair once he's like a certain both leave the Republic.

SPEAKER_04 40:09

Well, no, no, no. No, Kyle. No, Kyle. What we mean is during his training period, he's off-world.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah, not when he's fully a Jedi Knight in his point.

SPEAKER_04 40:18

Well, no, yeah, even with a Jedi Knight, because like episode two, he has to come back to protect Padme. Well, not just protect Padme, but in my personal opinion, how my what if story is is okay.

SPEAKER_06 40:31

Episode two council made Anakin a master.

SPEAKER_04 40:34

I would have made Anakin Master, yes. He had every right to be a master.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

By episode three, he had a right to be a master. I don't care what anyone says of the council at all.

SPEAKER_04 40:42

Okay, so let me get to my what if because you keep interrupting me. Yeah, stop dude.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

Alright, no, so my what if is basically this Episode one, I change it. Qui-Gon lives. Yeah. Obi-Wan lives, Qui-Gon lives. How to defeat Darth Maul? They don't kill Darth Maul, they cut his hand off. And then Darth Maul falls back and like escapes. So Darth Maul is still at large. Darth Maul.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

Just um just well without hands until he gets a new hand.

SPEAKER_06 41:15

So would he still be Sidious's apprentice?

SPEAKER_04 41:18

Yeah, yep, yep. He's still Sidious' apprentice, so there is no count Dooku.

SPEAKER_00 41:24

I'm sure I'm sure he gets uh I'm sure he would get um um punished for his failure, right? Oh yeah, no, yeah, he'd get punished for his failure. Four slightly for sure.

SPEAKER_06 41:37

If you I don't know, if you remember from Tales of the Jedi, Sidious was already in Dooku's head.

SPEAKER_04 41:43

Well, yes, but yes, yes, but yes, yes, Kyle. But what made Kal Dooku completely go to the dark side was the death of Qui Gum.

SPEAKER_02 41:54

His favorite Padawan.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

Well, his only Padawan. Yeah, and his like his Padawan, that's basically his son. Yeah. And it feels and he feels like the Jedi betrayed him. He feels like they should have listened to him earlier when he was talking more about the Sith. Yeah. Things like that. Like, I don't think, like, I don't know if dark I don't know if Kaltuku completely turns to the dark side if Qui-Gon's still alive. I think Qui-Gon and him would have a would have a uh heart to heart. No, no, beef.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Like they'd have a moment where like he's trying to like he does with Obi-Wan on Geonosis, where he tries to turn Qui-Gon to his side to be a Sith. I think he tries that with Qui-Gon, and Qui-Gon is like, you fall into the jet you fall into the Sith then, have you?

SPEAKER_07 42:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:42

Master. He's like, my young apprentice, so wise. And then they have like their little conflict. So he's a dark Jedi, but he's not a Sith because Darthinius is like, yeah, I still have my young guy.

SPEAKER_07 42:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:56

He's the Sith. Like Darth Maul is my apprentice. He's young. He's more agile. Yeah, he lost a hand, but don't mean Jack. At least he's not like half a torso.

SPEAKER_00 43:07

Oh, yeah, then a scorpion or something.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

Yeah, he's not a fucking torso. He's like, he only has he only lost the arm. But how my episode two opens up, you're gonna love this, both of you. All three of you. Episode two, instead of opening up on the Nabu assassination attempt, it opens up on Tatooine with Qui-Gon Jin and Anakin saving his mom. Thus taking that entire story arc away. Finally, they save his mother in the beginning of the movie. So it's Attack of the Clones, but you don't have that story arc anymore. So then also Anakin and Palpatine have no relationship. Qui Gon did what you say he was gonna do. I'm gonna train him off world. So him and Palpatine don't have any connection. They have no, he has no idea. He he doesn't know Palpatine, Anakin's lightsaber. Is green, motherfucker. It's green.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:03

Because Qui-Gon would have made him more force reliant, not lightsaber reliant. So he would be much more powerful in the force in my version. So what if in the Clone Wars it starts off with demo tattooing, then you have the Padme Assassination Temp. Obi-Wan is still alive, so he goes to investigate the uh Camilleo.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Camille Owens, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:31

Came Onens. Anakin and Qui-Gon go to Naboo.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

To guard the Padme. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

Qui-Gon knows that Anakin likes likes Padme. Qui-Gon tells Anakin, I've known my I've I've been with you for the past 10 years. I've always known you had a faint for her. As long as you don't let jealousy and other toxic emotions cloud your judgment, I don't see any reason for you not to pursue. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 45:04

And yeah, and why gonna teach him that?

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:09

Obi-Wan just tells her, just tells her, like, no, you know, Jedi, and this is what you do.

SPEAKER_04 45:16

Well, because Obi-Wan, the thing about Obi-Wan was conflicted because he had Duchess Sateen. In my version, he still gets Duchess Satine, but he's still conflicted.

SPEAKER_07 45:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:25

Because Gwai Gon is like, he's like, I get like Obi-Wan's like, I can't believe you let him you allowed him to be with Pat Bay. He's like, you could go with Duchess Satine. I'm not looking I'm not saying like you can't have Duchess Sateen, dog.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

I can see Obi-Wan get really right in the face and just like, yeah, I've known, I've known.

SPEAKER_04 45:46

You've been tapping that Mandalorian ass for years. I've known. They're pretty hot. Yeah. No, he's like, he's like, no, he's like, he's like, bitch, you think I'm you think I haven't done it myself? I had a 10-11. Yeah. That's true. But yeah, so, and then like when they say that, well, then what's your revenge of the Sith? My Revenge of the Sith is completely different because Anakin doesn't fall. So there is no original trilogy. There's just the first three.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

Anakin is full. What? In your what if of two, is Dooku taking care of there and then, or is he found his way back in three? Like we get a same version of the beginning of three times.

SPEAKER_04 46:29

I don't know. I I have it in the Clone Wars where like they have their heart to heart in the Clone Wars. Where it's like Dirku is trying, but he can't get Qui-Gon to fall. Yeah. It's his universe. I mean, it's his well, it's my idea, but I I came up with it because I heard of what that this guy said. I at no point, I said Mace Windu's still a dick. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

I mean, I'm sure he's I mean, sure, he's justified, but still a dick.

SPEAKER_04 46:54

He's still a dick.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

But I mean, like, the only ones that I liked from the what if universe that I watched on YouTube were Clocoon, Kid Fisto, um, Shock T. Because those are the ones he didn't fall. Yeah. Uh Penis Head, he fell.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

Oh no shit. Penis Headie fell.

SPEAKER_04 47:13

Yeah, Keanu Mundi he fell. Um Yoda, he fell, which was very surprising because that could have gone either way. The problem with Yoda is he speaks too weird, he does.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Yeah. Yeah, he do. And his his mind is just uh in the clouds, right? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

You're Alpoof? No, no, no. Fuck we are.

SPEAKER_06 47:40

Do we have a four bag of cheese? Yes, we do!

SPEAKER_04 47:47

Uh. So yeah, no, and then Mace Wendu, he falls hard in in the Mace Wendu one. Like he basically, like, it's not even a question that he was gonna fall.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

Yeah, because Mace Wendu fucking hates him.

SPEAKER_04 47:59

So why would you Mace Wendu uh Mace Windu doesn't hate Anakin? He just doesn't think Anakin is the right choice. Because he's too emotional.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

He just has a little opinion on him. He doesn't hate him.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

Yeah, he doesn't hate him.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

He a little opinion. See? It's just that he um it's like it's like I I think he um he sees him, he sees Anakin as um a kid trying.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

He sees him too he sees him as too easily to manipulate.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Question though, in your what if, is the Sokatano canon? Okay, so they he he will be trained by Anakin.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Yeah, I trained Masoka. Okay. I don't change much. I just change like a one what if? Like Yeah, I just changed that Qui-Gon doesn't die. After that, I basically said this is how it would go. Because Qui-Gon would make it this way. Like he he wouldn't it wouldn't be that hard of it wouldn't be that hard of a thing to for him to do. Yeah. My only problem is the uh the uh the the the one he talked about, the Jedi story with uh uh yeah, the tails, the with the Cal Dooku. I hate the one with the Mace Windu. Because I I do believe Kal Dooku is justified in that story. Oh yeah, no, no, no, shut up. Because with Mace Windu basically, like when they returned from their mission, uh the mission was to uh investigate realistically, Kal Dooku wanted to investigate a Jedi who was a council member died uh while guarding the senator. Um Mace Windu believed the senator, he didn't even question the senator, he believed the senator wholeheartedly, and then you find out that the guards were trying to assassinate the senator and didn't mean to kill the Jedi because the senator was corrupt as all hell. Yeah, and like Kow Dooku is like Mace Wendu is like, I'll have to inform the council about this because the senator ends up dead under what Kow Dooku does, right? And then Kal Duku and Mace Wendu get back, and this is when Kowduku finds out that before the mission, Mace was told, Oh, you're gonna get her council seat. The Jedi that died, you're gonna be the next, you're gonna be on the council. It's her, it's your seat. And and Kow Dooku's like fucking pissed. He's like, Did you know before we went on that mission? Did you know? Yeah, like, yeah, I'd be pissed too.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Yeah, I won't be too. It makes it makes perfect sense to be pissed.

SPEAKER_04 50:27

Yeah, because I feel like I got screwed.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

You let it happen? Yeah. He's like, did you know? Like, did you know this was gonna be and he's like, I will speak, I will speak for you for the council. And I'm just like, you motherfucking dick.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

So, and the thing is that makes those stories are actually canon. So it starts to paint Mace Windu as a not only a bad Jedi, but a corrupt Jedi as well.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

Most of them were corrupt, yeah. It wasn't even that hard to tell who was corrupt and who wasn't. Like most of them were. Like Kyle Dooku is see, like, I'm sorry. The more like the more you go into depth with Kal Dooku, the more you're like, he's justified. Yeah. Like he's justified. Like he's not just like Star Sidious isn't justified, but Kal Dooku is.

SPEAKER_08 51:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:13

Yeah. Anakin's justified. Like, I am a hundred percent on Anakin's side, except for the Youngling thing.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

No, the Youngling Ling is where we went, we all agree that he went too far.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

Yeah, when he killed the Younglings, we're like, Yeah, that's too far. But for the most part, I'm on his side. Because he did get screwed.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:31

But yeah, that's my what if, that's my Star Wars.

SPEAKER_00 51:34

I had this idea that um um one of the San people who attacked the Luke was um a survivor of uh I mean I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04 51:49

Well, remember Anakin, well, remember in Anakin's thing, he says, I killed them all. I slaughtered them.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Not just the men. But the women and the children.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

What's this is a really good scene. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

It is a great scene.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

I don't care what anyone says. Like people say that's a horrible scene. I'm like, that's a great scene.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

It shows how distraught he is.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

Now he knows he's in the wrong. He even says, What I feel is wrong, what I did was wrong. Yeah, I shouldn't feel this way. I'm supposed to be a Jedi. Yeah, I'm supposed to be better than this. Yeah, and that's what I love about that because like Anakin knows he's wrong. Yeah, like he understands he's wrong, he knows he gave into anger and to it shouldn't be like that, and he feels remorse for what he did. That's what I like about that scene because like see that's the problem with Opi Wan, is that like I feel like Opi Wan was the right teacher, but he've listened too much into the Jedi Order because the Jedi don't understand that you can't get rid of your emotions.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

You it's normal to feel angry, it's normal to feel sadness, it's normal to feel hatred, it's normal to feel all those emotions.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Yeah, it's like it's like an it it is a um it is a metaphor of how um unre unrealistic uh r religion is, right?

SPEAKER_04 53:10

Well, they want you to be like a robot. Like that like Yoda is like, no, you have to like you have to like you have to you can't feel anything.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

It's like you want us to be robots, you can't be that then I think the most confusing yeah, sorry, it's not the car just about the most confusing thing for I ever received from Yoda was the line when he's talking about his visions about Padme. Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose. Bro, he doesn't want to lose her. What don't you get?

SPEAKER_04 53:38

He doesn't want to train himself to let you. Anakin doesn't trust anyone, so he can't reveal that he's married.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:46

Like the only person that he would reveal that to is no, it's dead.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

Qui-gon, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:51

Yeah, Qui-Gon, he's dead. Like Qui-Gon, who is a father figure. As a catalog right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:58

Oh, besides him. I'm pretty sure Ahsoka also knew.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

No, she had to have known to some extent.

SPEAKER_04 54:05

I feel like Ahsoka knew. I feel like Obi-Wan knew because they do say like Obi-Wan kind of like, is he on the phone with Padme? Like, I think Obi-Wan knew that him and Padme were a thing. I don't think he knew they were married.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

I mean, also he kind of knew when in probably in the NM2 when he says, oh, they're off the world on the boo.

SPEAKER_04 54:23

No, I don't think he knew that they were married. I think he knew that they like I think he knew Padme was his booty call. Okay. He's like, yeah, he's like, my Padwan is uh is relieving himself.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

He's having a he's having a training of the shit.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

That's actually one of my favorite reactions is uh when they're on the Mandalore. No, no, no, no, shut up. When you're meeting Duchess Satine for the first time, and one of my favorite reactors is is responding, and his girlfriend standing next to him, he's like, he's like, Duchess Satine would like to speak with you. He's like, tell Duchess Satine four times is plenty today. Duchess Satine. Duchess Satina Mandalore. Yeah, Duchess. Duchess. Duchess Satina Mandalore Duchess is like a queen.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

Yeah. Okay. Oh, noble.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

I never knew that. Yeah, she's a noble. Yeah, she's a noble Mandalore.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

Okay, alright. Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 55:22

Yeah, she's a she's basically a dupe, but female, Duchess.

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Okay, it's a Duchess, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:27

I just thought that was funny because he implied that Obi-Wan has been having sex with Duchess Sateen. Like, he's like, tell her four times as plenty today. I wish Obi-Wan had um had a spring. Dude, I'm sorry. He would have because like I was hoping Ray was granddaughter or something. Well, the thing about it is like in the Clone Wars, well, in the Clone spent four years on Tatooine. Well, in the Clone Wars, um in the Clone Wars, I think they were establishing that Obi Wan and Duchess Sateen had rekindled their flame.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Yeah, they were going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Like it was very private. Like it was very like because that moment when she reveals, like, I've always loved you. And that it's one of my favorite moments because, like, had you said the word, I would have left the Jedi Order. And I'm like, oh, it was that serious.

SPEAKER_01 56:20

The ghosts of girlfriends passed.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

Damn. Okay. I say a lot. So if she if she told him, a lot of would have changed.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

What would have been more fucked up had they revealed Duchess Satine was pregnant when Darth Maul stabbed her in the kid? That would have been really fun. God, that would have been a good idea. That would have been silly.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

Because then that would have added more like I think it would have might it might have turned over one in that part.

SPEAKER_04 56:43

Yeah, because it's like you not only killed the woman of my love, but you also killed. Yeah, that would have been more fucked up. I'm glad they didn't do that, but you're playing a Spider-Man, is how I'm just saying, I'm glad they didn't do that, but it would have been kind of interesting if they implied. She was pregnant, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:01

Yeah, it would have been. Star Wars has a a ton of misopportunities, obviously.

SPEAKER_04 57:09

Oh, yeah. One of my favorite lightsabers I am going to buy from my collection, the Darksaber.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 57:16

They actually have a Darksaber made uh that you can like swing around as like, you know, as a like as like a prop. Yeah. I'm like, I will buy that one day. That's a cool story. Alright, I'm done. That's my that was my uh Star Wars thing. Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 57:31

Well that's almost been an hour.

SPEAKER_04 57:33

So uh well Well, I mean I I knew Star Wars was gonna run a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

Uh let's do the MCU. MCU, alright.

SPEAKER_06 57:42

All right, right along to another property that didn't get ruined. Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

Alright, so phase one. And the that's um can someone pull up the phase one movies so I have a load. I already know them. Oh, you have them?

SPEAKER_06 57:56

Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America, the first Avengers trailer.

SPEAKER_04 58:04

Okay, so that so those five movies?

SPEAKER_06 58:08

Yes, nothing Avengers.

SPEAKER_04 58:10

Okay, so five.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

Hold on. Let's as well. Okay, so uh what's the uh Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, The Captain America, and Avengers, and but yeah, but we're not gonna put Avengers, so it's just the five.

SPEAKER_04 58:25

Okay, so the five, uh, so the five phase one movies in order from your best to your least favorite. You don't have to. I think we should start from the least favorite to the best. Okay. Is that a good order? Yeah, okay, sure, sure. Okay, so who wants to go first? Oh yeah, one of the first. One I you want to go? Yeah. All right, from your least favorite, what's your least favorite movie of that MCU list? Iron Man 2. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

Can I ask why? I just I didn't I don't like Iron Man. I'll be honest. I don't I don't fuck with Tony Stark. And I mean, I went to go see it with a friend. I mean, he bought a ticket back in the day, so I want to go see it, but it was it's just it's not my thing.

SPEAKER_04 59:08

Okay. Um okay, so your next one? Next one would be uh Iron Man. So you I figured. Yeah. If you didn't like Iron Man 2, then you definitely didn't like Iron Man 1.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

I I I gave this one a bit more because I did like the origin story for this one, the way they painted it. Okay. Um, so and then my next movie would be Hulk. Okay, it's an incredible Hulk, alright? Yeah. Um, don't be wrong. I love Edward Norton as Hulk. It's just, I feel like there could have been more of a villain than just Atrocitous.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

Okay, yeah. Abomination. Abomination. Yeah, Abomination. I understand it's confusing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

I feel like there could have been more of a villain than just Abomination. I agree.

SPEAKER_00 59:56

Well, yeah, well, but there are others.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

I mean, then you're um and then uh my next one would be Captain America and the First Avenger.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

Captain America First Avenger is your next movie. So then your best movie is Thor.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:10

I love Thor. I'm I really do. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:13

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

Okay. So who's next? I think it's okay. I guess I'll be. Oh, Ginger Bear wants to go. Ginger Bear wants to go. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Alright, let's go ahead. So um we'll be.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

Your least favorite.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

Alright. Our least favorite?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:27

Um the five. Thor. Thor? Okay. Uh your reasoning?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Yeah. I re the way the the story was the going of the character of action. It seems like it's like a a kid's like um or uh something was something you you have seen in a current for um like 14-year-olds. I agree. Alright, go on. Um next one. Um Iron Man two because um actually no no no iron one. Because I because I think two I might have um improved it a little bit by including um uh whipped lash and uh Nick Fury and Black Wolf. So yeah. So Iron Man Iron Man, yeah. Okay, next grabbed the Hulk, alright? I do l I do like the movie. I just um I agree with I I agree with when I call that war enemies, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:52

Oh yeah, you can't add more.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

Like um the the big head guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:58

Oh, I agree, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:59

The leaders. Yeah. Alright. Um, and uh okay, well so I said um Thor, Iron Man Wall 1, Hulk. You got two left. Uh Iron Man 2.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

So you put Iron Man 2 next, so that means your favorite movie is Captain America First Avenger. Yeah. Alright. Yeah, I like it. Okay, so alright, Strong Arms, you're next.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:27

Alright. Um least favorite from me, and it's gonna piss all of you off. The incredible hope.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

Yeah, alright.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:37

Well I saw that coming.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:42

You prefer Mark for Ruffalo?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:44

No, not just for No, I would have preferred to have Edward Norton in the MCU. He's more of a first banner than Edward Norton.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:56

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

Edward Norton is worse than Edward Norton.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I only I I believe Edward Norton is the only incredible Hulk. I don't I don't understand. I don't know who this MCU Hulk is. Yeah. He's an imposter.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:11

He's no no, he's um he's imbombination. He's no no no one, no one gets maestro. He's maestro. He's the maestro. Alright, he's totally the maestro. Well, um as evil hulk in the future.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:26

Yeah, evil hulk in the future.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:28

Maestro.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:29

Alright. So you're so okay next after in front of Incredible Hulk.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:34

Oh, I didn't explain. Yeah, why? Again, like I said, I prefer Edward Norton.

unknown 1:03:42

However, the movie itself is pretty bland.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:48

I'll give him that one.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:52

It's significant out like outside of the scene where like he ripped a car in half and used it like boxing phones.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

That was that was pretty cool. I like that one. Like that one actually. Me, I mean he didn't hit abomination into that tree in the college campus.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

Yeah. And I do and and I like how he almost killed him with uh chain and stuff. But maybe all right, next up.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:19

Okay, next, for me. Uh I'd say honestly, first Avenger, Captain America.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

I actually want to know your reasoning for this. Why don't you like first Avengers?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:36

Yeah. Okay, yes. Captain America is one of my favorite characters in the MCU. However, it suffers with the same problems I mentioned with Dean Pro. You know, your set the setting is in World War II. You could have done so much with it, and they do it's basically like they do so little, it's basically an Avengers trailer.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:10

Well, to be fair, uh to be fair, uh, Captain America isn't Captain America until he gets to the present because that they teach him mixed martial arts in the present.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:22

He doesn't, he's not really good at hand-to-hand combat.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:24

In the movie, like in the yet you watch the movie, he doesn't do much hand-to-hand. It's guns and the shield most of the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

And fist, obviously. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:33

Yeah, well, I mean, he's a boxer.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:34

Yeah, he's boxing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

So well, yeah, it was the 1940s.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:38

And and The Adventures is probably when he was at his like No, he's at his peak health because like when he comes in, he's like a freaking Jack. Yeah, but he's also like, it's not just his muscles, it's also he's got incredible muscle memory. He's able to, like, he's probably able to look at somebody. Performing the move, yeah, and within a couple tries, doing it himself. Yeah, his muscles start to like, oh, okay. So this is what we gotta do.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:08

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:08

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:10

And another reason, another one of my favorite characters, Bucky, he's hardly involved.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:16

True. He's not really in the movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:18

Like, honestly, when I first saw The Winter Soldier, I had to take a back child. I'm like, who's that? That's that's just how forgettable he was in the first movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:30

Okay. Alright, next.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:33

Iron Man 2. I do, I mean, Tony Stark is my favorite. However, the villains are trash.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:41

Look at that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:42

Yeah, they were trash. They were bad. They were bad. I just like it because of Nick Fury and what it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:49

Now remember, audience, this isn't a list of these are the worst MCU. This is just phase one. If this was including all the MCUs, these movies would be up higher.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

Uh yeah, they would be a lot higher for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:02

Yeah, they would be a lot higher on the list. This is just for phase one. I just feel like I should take I should say something.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:09

I'll be honest, I'll just say this now. I would rather watch Iron Man 2 any day than the Thunder, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:15

Alright. Thunderbolts. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay, next up.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:21

Oh, um topic or? No, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:23

Next up. His Iron Man 2.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

Okay, sorry, sorry, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:27

And then Thor.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:28

Thor, so that means Iron Man's his favorite.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:31

Honestly, I think Thor is like honestly. The first one, he's the most Thor-like.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:38

Well, yeah, this whole scene was.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:47

He goes from being arrogant to himself.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:52

I'll be honest, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:53

Responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:54

Yeah. That's one of the good things about it. I like how um how he explains the two um the girl, his his origin. Like it wasn't Natalie.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:08

Yes, Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:10

Yeah, like Princess Patman. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:14

He's still on my list.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:16

I just I just like the fact that in Thor in that movie when he drinks a beer for the first time, that was good. I don't know about it. He just throws coffee.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:28

Was there a coffee and that was a beer?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

I know that.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:31

And after eating like five full course meals in a diner.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:37

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:39

That's actually that's actually that's actually one of the movies where Natalie Portman's not the hottest girl in the world. No, the Ascot girl was. Oh, no, not the Ascot girl. I would say the other girl because uh if you've seen her in Two Broke Girls, she's got the biggest rack.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:53

Oh, yeah, she does.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

She's got some big ass boobs.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:56

Okay. I hate her. Disrespect Natalie on my watch.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

Natalie. No, obviously won't, because I love Natalie Portman, but she but she doesn't have a continuous, really.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:06

I'm not gonna lie, Natalie Portman's best Natalie Portman's best sex scene is in Black Swan with Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:15

Okay, we're not just Oh my god. You guys are irredeemable.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:24

Wasn't she in uh V for Vanilla people? Yeah, she was in V for Vandella.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

And there was a sex scene, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

No, there wasn't. No, there was.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:31

No, there was not.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:32

And wasn't she trying to be a Brit sometime? Yes, yes. She was. A fascist Brit. Well, she was a fascist.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:40

No, and then his last and his last movie's Iron Man. Yeah. Which is all right.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:45

It's the one that started all.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:48

Nothing more to be said.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:49

Alright, my phase one list then. Okay, so my least favorite is um Iron Man 2.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:02

Alright, um really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:04

Yeah, I don't like Iron Man 2. Um, well, that's not true. I do like Iron Man 2, but in phase one, personally, it's a sequel.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:15

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:16

Okay. I I think the other four, because they're introduction movies, I rank them a little bit higher than Iron Man 2. Let's say Iron Man 2 is a bad well, I mean, it's got weak areas. It's better. It's I mean, Whiplash is okay. Um, he's a better villain than the first Iron Man villain. Stain. I would yeah, Stain. Yeah. Like I would say he's better than Stain, but because I think Jeff Bridget we're talking about here. I don't care. I really don't. I really don't care that it's Jeff Bridget. It's Stain.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:54

People um like like the carrot touch belt about how great uh certain actors are.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:01

I I only care about how you perform in the role.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

And he failed miserably.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:04

Well, I don't think he failed. I think like I think he was fine. I think he's I think he's just a weak villain. Well, he is compared to like compared to like whiplash. Like whiplash to me, like it's more personal for him.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:17

Like it's more personal. He's like on a personal level. I also think the secondary violence sucks ass in Iron Man 2. Uh, what's his name? Hammer Tager. Yeah, Hammer Hammer. Yeah, I mean he was just there as a joke.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:32

That was not like dealt. Yeah, no, he was just there.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:35

I didn't he get let go, like not even a bitch. Like, he didn't even do any time.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:43

Yeah, he didn't do any time. He just like he folded. I need a drink. Yeah, go ahead, get the drink.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

Yeah, thirsty.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:49

There's only diet, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:50

Um I don't care anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:52

Alright, I'm just saying. So, my next one. Uh Goddamn America, first Avenger.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

That's beer. You can try though, it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:05

What can we go?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:08

Yeah, uh, five is Iron Man 2, 4 is first Avenger.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:13

Yes, four is first Avenger.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:15

No, three.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:16

My reasoning for First Avenger is uh personally like it's not Captain America yet. Like Captain America becomes um Captain America, in my opinion, in the sequel, Witcher Soldier. Woo! Well, because he's not he's not yet Captain America in the Avengers. Like he doesn't become like, in my opinion, the best Captain America scenes are in Winter Soldier.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

Like in Civil War too, like those are the best Captain America scenes because like he's just throwing the shield. Yes, he's directing people because he's a soldier, but he's still not Captain America yet. Because Captain America doesn't like it takes a while for him to, in my opinion, be Captain America that makes him so great.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

I agree.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:10

Um, okay, my next one. Thor. Really? Yep, Thor. I like Thor. I will say this. I like Thor, but it's not my favorite Thor movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

Dark World?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:27

I haven't dealing with it with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:28

My favorite Thor movie is Dark World. So, like, Thor, yes, is the third best phase one movie. Like, it's not bad. It's good. It's good for a Thor movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:40

Uh I don't mind Natalie Portman. I think she does a great job. Uh I I think the I think him having to discover himself is a good story. I really do. Yeah. Um, okay, so next up is the Incredible Hulk. Yeah, I like Incredible Hulk with number two. Um, I kind of disagree with everybody on this panel. I don't think Abomination. I think I think him being the villain was good.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

No, I'm gonna say he.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:17

He also had a secondary villain as in the US military.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:21

But I it's not okay, but you can't only defeat the US military. It's gonna always exist.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

Well, yeah, but like I mean Hulk represents what the anger against um what those things that aren't you can't control.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:37

I also like to point out the US military, the way that they go after Hulk, and he's not doing anything wrong is wrong. Because he's not doing anything. Like he's like, what is he? He's in a factory. Like, yes, like, oh, my bad. Part of my blood ended up in uh freaking Stan Lee's drink, and now he's got gamma sickness. Yeah. No. Is that what happened? Yeah, part of his blood ended up in Stan Lee. Like, when Stan Lee, like the reason why he's cameo in that is him taking a drink, is that's where the blood was in that drink. Right. And uh he got gamma sickness.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:13

Yeah, people become like no, they got game.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:15

He got gam. Well, gamma sickness is becoming Hulk, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

Basically, died.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:20

Yeah, he died. Cancer. Well, yeah, heart. Um, so uh yeah, I don't think it's a weak story arc. I like what they were trying to do with it. Also, incredible. I also like besides Spider-Man, I do like the Hulk. Hulk is one of my favorite Marvel characters. I like Captain America, but he's not my favorite. Last but not least, my favorite movie, Iron Man. What? Yes. It starts it all. Phase one wouldn't be phase one without Iron Man. Um I just like how cocky Tony is at first, yeah. Yeah, in the in the movie at first. Like I like how he's he's thinking about having a secret identity, and then he just says, I am Iron Man.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

This is like I'm gonna be honest with you though. I honestly think, this is just my opinion, Captain America should have been first. In the movie lineup, because his story takes precedence before everyone else's.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:21

I think you're wrong though.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:22

Well, I think I think so The Tony was alive in 1945. It should have at least come before Thor.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:30

It should have become before Thor, but I think you're wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:33

I think I think um I kinda like how stores will call Iron Man because let me be honest. I mean he's yeah he's you he's unique.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:49

I mean the way he talks to other people and stuff, and like the reason why they started with Iron Man is because out of the out of the five Avengers, well, out of the five movies that we were gonna get, Iron Man is the least known. That's true, yeah. You start with the least known character. Also, you can adjust him because he's not technically Iron Man from the comic books. Because Iron Man from the comic books is way more of a dick than Iron Man in the movies. Yes, he's a dick in the movies, but he's kind of dick light.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:25

Dick Light.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:27

I um I'll be honest and uh you're right. He wasn't always an asshole, and and um like he w he wasn't always wrong, and I think that's that's why uh um Robert Pedali Jr. was the best choice because I think around the time he he was he was like uh going through stuff, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

Yeah, well also well no, he was in and out of it. Uh he he became sober before Iron Man.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:04

Well well, isn't isn't isn't isn't isn't Iron Man the same way?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:09

I mean he's not quite an alcoholic because he doesn't become he he becomes now he becomes an alcoholic because of PTSD.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:20

Yeah like PTSD starts that he's uh he's more of uh a Playboy. Like Batman. He's basically Batman if Batman was a Playboy.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:31

No, no, no, he's he's like Luther and Batman together.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:36

Well, yeah, but he's basically if that man was more a playboy and didn't care about being a crime fighter in the beginning. Uh also one of my favorite scenes of any Marvel movie is actually in Iron Man 1. And it's the uh it's the scene with uh your least favorite villain, Stain, when he's talking to the scientist and he says, Tony Stark built this in a cave with a box of scraps!

SPEAKER_02 1:19:03

I like that scene. No, I like that scene. And I didn't say he's my least favorite villain either.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:07

No, but that's my favorite scene. I just love how he gets so pissed off.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:12

It's not about the suit, it's about the fucking reactor.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:18

But Jeff Bridges, he did um He did a good job. He nailed that. He didn't nail that. Like it's like I feel like he gets to imagine himself having a a crash out, yeah. Or or or no, a kid or or his kid, his size, but it's still his um his price, the car wrecking. I'm pretty sure he was he was trying to think about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:44

Most likely. I just I thought that was a good scene. I just like the way he he portrayed that scene. Yeah. Like, yes, it's a like it's not even the weakest. If you're gonna go with like introduction movies, I don't think Iron Man's the weakest movie. I I don't even think none of them are weak when it comes to introducing the character. No, they're that the way, like, and like this is what I'm saying to the audience. Like, this is just phase one. Had we done the whole MCU, these movies would be much higher.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:15

Oh, you for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

They would be like in the top ten, maybe top five.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:19

Okay, I'll I won't go with top five. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:22

Well, I said some of them in top five. I didn't say all.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:25

Outside the first Iron Man, I wouldn't go that far.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:28

Outside the first, like, door, and like I'll give Captain America, I wouldn't say top five.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:34

Well, no, but I'm I'm saying some. But they definitely would a lot of them would be in the top ten.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:41

You know what? I wouldn't have an Iron Man 2 yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:47

They should have done Black Widow.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:49

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:51

Yeah, they should have done that. Well, um uh but Johansson was still like the younger, you know, like well yeah, they should have done Johanson when she was young.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:02

They should have done that's why I said Black Widow should have been the all by all all accounts should have been the fifth movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:09

And Hawkeye should have been in it.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:12

He should have been in it, and maybe I don't know, they would have had a Hawkeye movie, but or Phil Colson would be part of it too. Yeah, well, yeah, because it's the you know the shield. Oh no, that's that's that's the first that's phase one. Uh we can do phase two and phase three some other time later on. We're not gonna do them all at once, so we'll do phase two another time.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:34

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:34

Um, but yeah, so that was the phase one rankings. I think that went well. Yeah.

unknown 1:21:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:41

It's as good as Dolgic, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:44

Well, yeah, because it gives you that it gives you that perspective. Because like you know that when it comes to phase two, it's like because I think we've done our favorite MCU movies. Well, so you want to uh I'm pretty sure we've done our favorite MCU movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:00

We did well, the uh bronze, silver, gold. Yeah, we didn't do a favor.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:04

Yeah, we didn't do our favorite, but yeah, but we'll be a time for next time. Yeah, but no, phase two is some other time. All right, next up. The boys. The boys. And then we'll do Red Stories next.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:14

Okay, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:15

That'll be it. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:20

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:21

How much line do we got?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:22

Um well, so far, um, it's been uh an hour and twenty-two minutes.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:27

All right, yeah, so yeah, we we got enough time to do two topics.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:30

Yeah, okay, so what's up?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:31

Actually, we can do the security universe if you guys want to, but it's up to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:34

Well, let's find out, okay?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:35

All right, let's do it. All right, next up is the boys.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:38

Uh it's over, finally.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:41

Thank God.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:43

Finally. I mean, it was a low.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:47

It was awful. It was absolutely awful. Oh god. The the the final episode. It was the worst episode I've ever seen. Oh, no. It was the worst superhero episode. I mean, the way the D brook it in the ass over and over and over again. Buddy is off limits.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:09

Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:10

Oh god, I'm just I'm just I'm just doing what all those fucking assholes online have been doing non-stop.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:16

Yeah, they so I I was telling like having the people who hate most people who hate for the ending probably haven't read the comic. Oh, dude, it's worse than the comic.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:34

Oh, everyone dies and I find it. Why would you I've said my statement when we were at lunch. I like the ending personally because I think it's a great way to end the series, especially with I'm guessing it's Starlight, I forgot. Don't quote me. I think it's Starlight, right? Yeah, okay. Starlight and Hugh are together, they're potentially gonna get married soon, and they have a child, and you know, she goes about to fight crime, and he just turns down fighting for the US government. I think that's personally a great ending.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:08

Well, because he's starting up his own business.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:10

Yeah, or he's already doing what they're gonna ask him to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:13

Yeah, so yeah, and uh I find it strange how um how they have a a baby even after having an abortion.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:25

Yeah, you know what's weird? Imagine if they tied this into dispatch.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:31

What? No, I doubt. Well, I mean I don't know, who knows.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:36

Wait, look, John, they they played the song Baby Come Back. Oh no, so no, I'm I enjoyed Homelander getting his ass beat. Oh, that was the best. It was finally it was fine. It was it's like it's one of those things where it's like the shit happened sooner.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:58

Yeah. I just like the public humiliation he finally does he finally got. Please, I'll suck your dick. Yeah, I'll I'll even eat your shit. Just please don't kill me.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:09

And then uh and then the butcher he he stabs him in the head with a crowbar, and then he uses crowbar to um open his skull and all his contents come out. That's one way to put it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:29

The contents and and uh does he what does he fuck the skull?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:35

No, I wish they would have.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:40

He should have peeed on it or something. He should have done something like that, yeah. P on the skull.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:45

I mean, I know, like, to be honest with you, like when the deep died in the same episode, I didn't care. He deserved it. Yeah, I don't I don't go that far because I feel like the deep got his come up it's I do earlier.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:00

I like how Starlight was um was um like giving him a talking to mention how how he fucked up one of the all the choices he makes and uh and she says um I'm beaten man up and uh and uh accept the accept the the fact that it's your f fault. And then he was like, No!

SPEAKER_04 1:26:29

I was like this this guy is like I said, they they changed his story arc because they were originally gonna have his story arc to maybe be redeemed in season two, and then he became such a popular character because of all the memes that they just kept him a joke. And realistically, they really there's nothing else to do with him but keep him a joke and then have him get anally raped by an octopus. I mean wanna hold Okay if Alcaman and if Bogaman If he even met this guy Oh no Conquest Aquaman would win. Well Aquaman would win. Also, Aquaman don't get down with an octopus. We all know he gets down with dolphins.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:20

Baby!

SPEAKER_00 1:27:26

Yeah, but still, um still yeah the Yeah the Deep is like Aquaman and and Andrew Potate. I know it sucks. And uh I fucking hate that.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:39

I mean, like in the original, like in the original comic book, the deep really doesn't play any factor in the original comic book. And I bring out the original comic book.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:48

You weren't dining helpment.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:49

Well, no, in the original comic book, and I bring out the comic book because this is where the show took liberties from. Yes, yeah, like it's a horrible comic book. I'm gonna be honest. With you, I've only read it one time, and I spent read most of it. Oh dude, I could not like there were moments where I'm just like, I hate this. I genuinely hate this. This is someone who loves the Justice League, who loves Marvel, yeah, who loves the Avengers. Like them doing this really like irred me because I'm like, but that's not how the heroes are betrayed. I get that if they were part of a company that this is how they would be betrayed.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:31

I'm gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:32

I get that, but there's a part of me that's like I still think that there will be a lot of heroes that would be like the DC universe and like the Marvel, which aren't for profit. Yeah. A few at least, you know. Yeah, you gotta admit that.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:46

There are some that are gonna be good at heart and not corrupt assholes.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:50

Yeah. How come or racists? How come we don't again like more screen or page of time like the uh um the quote unquote villains, you know? Like those who who are paid to the fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:09

Because it's uh that's the thing, it's not like it's it's the thing where it's like, and it's just this is I'm gonna say it because it's Garthanus. Garth Anus. Yeah. That's his name. Well, yeah, because I just love when you called him that, and I just like Garthanus! It's Garth Anus! Yeah. No, I just like he's just an anus. I hate him. He's an anus. He's an anus. And he is he's a butthead. He's an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:33

I just an asshole if he makes asshole characters.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:37

Have you met have you actually watched people on Comic Con meet him? He is an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:42

No, yeah, I've seen it. People walk away, like worst writer ever. Like he's a jackass.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:47

Well, no, he's an asshole. Because like he will, like, he'll be so happy when it's the boys, but if it's anything from DC and Marvel, like it's like disgust.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:57

I have a friend who wants to go. Sorry. Oh, sorry, um, before you mention that, your friend, huh? Um, he he he he only likes the the Punisher. Just that. Like I hate that. I know. He that's his only favorite a character, and he hates it. I mean, he's Kevin America.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:17

Look, look, look, look, I'm gonna be honest with you. Do you want to wear Punisher t-shirts? Yes, it's a cool, it's a cool logo. I will end that. It's a cool logo. It's a cool logo. Horrible character. Horrible character. It's like Ghost Rider. Horrible, horrible writing for both of them. Like if they were if they were written better, they would be better comic books. Yeah. They just would be. Because I'm sorry to say this, it's like I I don't have a problem with Punisher killing people that deserve to be killed. But my thing is this, is like, can we have like it can we have him like investigate and actually be like, does this really need to be a kill?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:57

Or could it just be prison time?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:59

Yeah. Like, do I really have to kill this person? Like, does he done a lot to do it? Like, I could get like drug dealers, sure. But like somebody who like carjacks.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:10

Like can't you just like can't just look like a McCuz hands up or something? Or like a I mean, seriously, like let's do like fucking Middle East. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:19

Oh no. The ways that it just reminded me of the last scene from the Punisher TV movie that just came out. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:29

Born again or something? No, no.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:31

Born again.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:32

Sorry, I tell you all.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:34

So my friend who wanted to go meet Garth Anis at a comic plan went and presented a preacher comic. And the look of disgust he told me on Garth Anus's face while signing it was like, dude, I've it was like I personally offended him and his entire family by asking him to sign his own comic book.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:56

I hate, yeah, that's why I hate him. Like, I've heard nothing but horrible stories about Garthanus. He's the plumpest dick.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:04

It's that. I'm sorry. It just sounds like you're saying Darth Anis.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:09

He literally is like Darthanus. His name is Darthanus. His life is his fox. His fox.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:17

His parts are the force. His parts boxes. His parts planets. Yeah, his fox is so strong that it moved the planet. What do you think the Death Star was?

SPEAKER_07 1:32:33

It's a giant box.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:36

It's just a lighter.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:38

It's a lighter. It's a big, a big blast. I can't see it here. No, I don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:55

And that's how the Empire Lops. And thus the dark side was defeated, thanks to Darth Anis!

SPEAKER_00 1:33:04

Okay, Darth Vader.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:06

I just Darth Doodle did my tennis.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:08

I'm just Arch I just got him in my pups. Yeah, no, I ate. No, no, Garth. Yeah, I don't like I don't either.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:17

And he you know I I feel like his art, he's like the comic. Okay, okay, I wanna I wanna call him the comic comic book um egg girl in Poe.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:29

No, he's the anti-comic book artist. Yeah. Because Poe, I bet you five bucks. If you brought Poe a book of his decided he would sign happily.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:39

Well, no, because Poe was like, back then, Poe was a broke artist.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:42

Yeah, like if you if he if Poe realized how well his books are yeah, his books are cherished today, yeah, he would be like, oh my god. Thank you. Like sign.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:53

We would be very grateful to that. Yeah. Because he was a broke, he was a broke artist. He was a broke writer for a while.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:58

Like he was promising a paper just to get money to drink.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:01

No, and then uh, no, and like uh it's like Grant Morrison. Don't particularly like Grant Morrison. I really am not a huge fan of uh Frank Miller? Yeah, I don't like Frank Morris.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:13

Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:13

I'm not a huge fan of Frank Miller. Uh I like his writing.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:17

But as a person, no. And Alan Moore. Alan fucking Moore. The guy for V Vendetta. Yeah. Oh Watchman. Watch dude, like, dude is like either on crack or something. Cause like, like, he hates his movies. I know. He does. He hates them. And I'm like, they seem like great adaptations of the comic books.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:44

Even Vanana was a great adaptation of the comic book.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:46

Yeah, I don't understand why you hate it. It's like such a good miss stuff. I'm like, dude, you can't get everything. Dude, your comic book is super long.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:56

I don't think here um complained about her movies. No, she didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:02

No, she didn't. She wrote the movies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:04

That's the reason why he's so upset. They didn't ask him to write the script.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:08

Yeah. Makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:09

That's why he's upset. They didn't ask him. They just wrote the script, and he's like, that's not what I would have chosen.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:14

Well, you know what you don't want to ask you what you want to have chosen.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:17

Well, you know what?

SPEAKER_04 1:35:18

That's why if they didn't take you, they gave him the script and he just said it in his bathroom, and every page is like, wrong, and he just wipes his ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:30

But it's right there. V is supposed to be gay. Wrong. Wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:36

Wipe ass. I won't even wipe my ass with this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:41

V does a monkey dance. Really?

SPEAKER_04 1:35:43

No, I just no. I yeah, no. I think most comic book writers are pretentious assholes.

unknown 1:35:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:51

Yeah, I do. Except Stanley. The only one that I don't think is that is um the guy who created the Court of Owls.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:58

Oh no, no, he's really nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:00

Snyder, like Scott Snyder. Oh, is this?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:03

I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:04

Is it? Or is that the movie director? Because they're both Snyder.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:07

I think I think Snyder also made it out of comics, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:12

I don't know. But anyway, like he seems very nice. I've seen him on like videos. People will actually like when they approach him, he's very nice and very sweet. Like a sign of stuff. Like, there are some writers that are nice, and then you got uh Alan Moore.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:27

The same friend who met Darth Anus. Go junk time. And when he he came in with the Owls mask, and he says, and when he walked up, he says, Let me guess, courts in session. He's like, Yes. Can you sign my book?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:48

Please. See, I wish, I wish all, well, I well, I mean, it's a big wish, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:55

It's a big wish because most writers are like, it's not it. The thing about it is like the more political they are, the more dick bags they are.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:02

Oh, they are, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:03

Well, they're like um a sub trick, and like well, some are just um odd, you know, like just uh like um like odd behavior for that make it public, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:21

Yeah. I think so. Um before we move to Reddit Stories, I uh we do we don't need to talk about Skip A2, do we?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:28

I think we can say it for the next time you want.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:30

Yeah, we can talk. We can save it. We'll do it next time. Reddit story. All right, then strong arms, reddit story. Alright, so this will be our last topic. We understand this went long, we understand this went long, uh, folks, but before so hey, we've been gone for a while. We've been gone for two weeks, so all right, Reddit Ben.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:49

Alright, so this one comes from R slash relationship advice. It's uh just under a month old.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:59

All right. My uh M31 pregnant wife F29 friend privately made a very suggestive comment towards me this evening.

unknown 1:38:13

How do I address this to my wife the right way?

SPEAKER_06 1:38:16

This evening, I went out with my wife and her two friends and one of our couple's friends for dinner. My wife is almost five months pregnant with twin daughters, and I'm insanely happy in our marriage, and I absolutely adore her with all my heart. I'm aware of the fact that she has a group chat with some of her close friends where they maybe share some intimate things about our marriage. She's made jokes about things some of her friends have said. One of her older friends in particular has made jokes and has been maybe a little overly playful about me, and I've kind of noticed she wasn't always joking. I caught a bad vibe from her times I've met her, and she would ask me super candid questions that were maybe not appropriate to ask a friend about. When I told my wife about these things, she said she thought she was just joking and thought it was funny. But I was 99% sure she wasn't. Anyway, at dinner tonight, my wife and other friend left to go to the bathroom before the food arrived. And the other couple was at the far end of the table, and she, the friend in question, was sitting next to me on my right on the opposite end. As soon as they walked away, she touched my arm and said something along the lines of, Hey, I know you and your wife really have a lot going on right now, and that it's a lot. If you ever need to talk about anything, I'm always here and I'll always keep this between us. It wasn't what she said, but the way she said it. And it was very clear what she meant. I work in sales leadership and read people for a living, and there was no misunderstanding about what she meant. And she's made several comments towards me before and after I very directly dismissed it. She implied very suggestively that it was a standing offer. That's when I was very certain she meant something very different. The point is, I want to address this with my wife. I want to do it the right way. I know she won't be upset with me, but my biggest concern is that she'll be dismissive at first and think it wasn't legitimate. She's also been in the she's also only been in the US for about four years and moved here from Sweden. And this girl is one of her first friends that she has made, and she, the wife, has struggled to make friends a little bit. I just want to be straight out without hurting her too much. How do I handle this conversation the right way? So basically, what she's asking is asking, how do I address this without hurting her feelings?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:39

Um, you pull your wife aside, maybe have a good evening, take her out to dinner, you know, and then tell her, hey, listen, something happened in our last hangout with your friends at the dinner, and you need to know. Now, I don't I don't want to tell you this because I was uncomfortable and you need to know what happened. Okay? Your friend, so-and-so, made something out. The way she said it is innocent. The way she it's it's innocent. No, the way she impls come out is innocent. The way she's implying it, it's not, is what you can say to her. With everything that you've been telling in the group chats, okay, yes or no, whatever that is. It has caused some maybe her to have feelings or whatever thoughts about me, and I think you should know. What she said. Just simple as that. Honesty is the best policy with your wife. If my if it hurts her, it hurts her, but you she has the right to know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:38

Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:41

Okay. Uh, Gingerbread, did you have any thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:44

Not really. I'm like, this story is just too uh uh complicated. I mean, I'm like, why would you uh Okay?

SPEAKER_06 1:42:56

Like, it's this couple, and the wife has a friend who's made suggestive comments toward the husband behind the wife's back.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:05

What's that? Well, she's flirting.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:07

The husband wants to address it with the wife, but he doesn't want to do it in a way that won't upset her.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:12

She's sexually flirting with the husband. Her as in the wife or the Yes, the wife. Why do her?

SPEAKER_06 1:43:20

He wants to talk to the wife about this, but he wants to say in a way that it doesn't hurt her feelings.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:26

Why would it hurt her feelings? Because the wife is four years from Sweden. She this was her first ever friend in America. So he doesn't want to ruin a friendship that might be very dear to her heart. Like, yeah, it's her first ever friends.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:47

Was it the wife of Swedish?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:48

Yes, the wife is Swedish.

unknown 1:43:51

No?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:56

I love they said the wife was Swedish.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:59

Okay, well, maybe I was just reading, but like maybe it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:04

Whatever, one of them is Swedish. Yeah. It's the wife. Yeah, well, like one of them is Swedish. If you want to be confused. Yeah, well, I'm confused because it's like, well, one of them Swedish. Just say it. Just fucking say it. If it ruins a friendship, it ruins the friendship.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:18

But your wife has the right to know.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:19

Well, yeah, because you're married to her.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:21

Yeah. I mean, like, if someone flirts if you're if you're happily married and in in love, you're not you're not interested in this woman. Then what? Simply tell.

unknown 1:44:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:39

It's also like it's also like it's also you're you're about to have twin daughters. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:44

And I'll say this now, if you don't tell and she finds it on her own, that means that even if you didn't feel something, she'll think you felt something.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:52

True. It might come back to bite you in the ass when you don't say something. Yeah. True. Yeah, so yeah, don't tell. Like, like, it's the thing about it is that like it's her, it's the friend's fault if this ruins the relationship. It's like it's her fault.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:07

You can have a cross on someone's husband as long as you can keep it to your fucking self.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:11

It's like she's the homework. I mean, personally, your wife should keep your business at in the bedroom private.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:17

But you know, that's his how girls like that's the kind of tea they spill.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:27

But yeah, but again, see, here's the thing is, and I'm gonna bring this back to relationship. Girls don't like it when guys do it. Why would it why is it shouldn't be the same rule applied for girls?

SPEAKER_04 1:45:38

Josh.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:39

I know I know the double standards.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:43

It's always a double standard, so you might as well just get over it. I mean, for God's sakes, you I mean, for God's sakes, Josh, one eye, you you've told us plenty of times about your relationships. Not not the one that you have now, but like in the past, you've told us a bunch of times of the bedroom activities. So I mean, you're you're no saint on that.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:06

Other than saint, well, one eye's an anomaly. We all know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:12

I mean, he's not much of an anomaly. There's a lot of guys out there that would do the same thing that he does.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:17

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:18

I mean in a bragging manner.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:21

Well, true.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:22

The way one eye says it, it's like it's not a bragging manner. It's like he's basically taking a picture of his dick and sending it to the group chat.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:34

God damn it, would you let it go?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:39

Um again, I was drunk and high, and this motherfucker and the other motherfucker who's not here dare me to do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:50

Hey, hey, don't you take your dick out and show it to us. Like, who's who the f who said that?

SPEAKER_04 1:46:55

To be fair, I'm not the one who mentioned, I'm not the one who said I dare you to do it. I he said you reaffirmed. You said and I quote, oh yeah, I I I'm I'm I'm, you know, blah, blah, blah. I forget what you I forget to say.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:10

I'm very drunk and hot.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:11

No, no, no, no. You said, I forgot the exact words, but you said, what if I showed you my dick? To me and Andrew. And I said, Go ahead, I dare you. Oh no. He said it. He said, What if I showed you my dick? I said, go ahead, do it. I why what if what you ask that question? He said, I know he's going to ask him. I didn't ask shit. That's what you asked. Like, dude, I didn't ask you.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:41

What is he didn't think he would actually do it?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:44

No, I didn't think he'd asked you. I didn't think he had the balls to do it, and then he fucking did, but that was balls. I don't know if you showed you the balls, man. There's a balls. I showed you the balls.

unknown 1:47:54

No, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:55

I showed you the balls.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:56

So not only did he do it wrong, he sent it to everyone in the group chat. He didn't send it to me or double shot our private group chat that we have with three of us. He sent it to everybody.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:10

I can't remember if I um I remember I remember the text that Ginger said. He said Jesus Christ shot. I'm watching the movie with my parents.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:21

I'm sure your mom did see it if your mom was sitting next to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:25

I'm pretty sure if she did what's why don't you ask me why? Why do you have a picture of your friend's dick on your phone?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:39

I don't like explaining that shit to her. Honestly, I honestly how I would have explained it to my father and my father looked over and saw a penis of uh Josh's penis picture. He says, Why do you have a why do you have a dick pic of your friend Josh on your phone? And it's like, I don't know, dad. I don't know. Maybe he's gay. He claims uh he was well he claims he was drunk. He claimed he was drunk and high, Pop. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:12

Your dad is drunk and high, and he never did that. Trust me.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:18

If it was my dad and he somehow saw this on my phone and thought I was gay, he would be like, well, you know you can do a lot better than that.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:29

Hey oh, you know what? You know what, son? It's not gonna tear up your ass. I approve.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:37

You know what?

SPEAKER_04 1:49:39

You got worse. Thanks, Joe. I'm not gonna lie, dude. No, it's no offense. Like, dude, it's we we joke and we kid.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:47

I know, I know, I know. I'm not really offended. I'm not. I just don't tell me about it at my wedding, please.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:55

Um Well uh you you might hotel.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:01

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I better I better I better call that artist and tell him not to put a bow tie and tuxedo on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:09

Oh god, I don't wanna s see that shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:19

A tux? You clearly don't remember the little podcast episode, do you?

SPEAKER_01 1:50:23

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:23

Where I said that we should just put in a bow tie and a tuxedo.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:27

Yeah, I've never remember yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:29

Draw button on the marker or sharpie or something? Yeah. Maybe a tux. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:35

Okay. Is there an update to the story?

SPEAKER_04 1:50:37

Is there okay good?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:39

Yes, I love I'm good for these.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:41

He's telling me it worked out.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:44

I sat down and talked to my wife about it this morning.

unknown 1:50:48

Good. And just told her everything directly and straight up while offering her reinsurance. She has handled it very well, but I think she's still processing some stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:00

She also admitted that one of her friends told her in confidence that she may have said some nice things about her and made several comments about me in conversations with her other friends, so she was already kind of suspicious.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:15

Of course. So there was other so there were other so there were other like factors. Yeah. That were in play.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:23

It's not a the other thing my wife picked up on that I actually didn't is that we were sitting in a large uh U-shaked outdoor cabana booth kind of thing that can probably fit 10 to 12 people. My wife was sitting to my left and she was sitting to my right at the very end of the booth, only next to me, instead of sitting to her or her other next to her or her other friends, where there was a ton of open space, so she picked up on that. We're working on how to handle it, but I think the best course of action is that I straight up messaged this girl, tell her I didn't appreciate that, and that I told my wife she'll have to figure out how to address it with her friend, with her friend group, but she basically said she can fuck off, and I'm proud of her for handling it in stride.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:25

Good. That's how the relationship right there.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:28

That's good, yeah. Sorry, it's better than the uh the alternative. Yeah, that's the uh the wife who uh didn't divorce.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:39

I'm not gonna lie, can I uh can I make a request for a red story?

SPEAKER_02 1:52:42

Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:42

I would like a Red Story where we where we we have one where it's another gay woman.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:50

I'm over cheating involved, so I can really go off.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:54

Uh Captain C or is there something you want to tell us?

SPEAKER_02 1:52:58

Yes, he secretly likes gay people, but not in the hot way, just he likes to talk to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:02

No, I just really I just really like Ginger Bear's reaction to that. Confessing to his wife the gay patient. Yeah, yeah, that really was a funny reaction by Ginger Beer.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:16

I think I was imagining um how how how it started.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:20

No, no, you are like the look on your face, and then you just say I hate this story. That was funny. This story is dumb. Like just like for Ginger Beard.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:34

Alright, cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:36

So yeah, there's one more update.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:38

Okay. Another update. Alright, update. Well, divorce.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:42

That would have been mad. Imagine that. Let's see. Uh update two. I ended up messaging her on Instagram yesterday evening and basically told her she was an awful person and how disrespectful that was, and straight up told her that my wife was aware. She has not responded, but I know she saw it. My wife told a few people privately over the phone what happened, and it kind of came out that several of them did not like her and were kind of off put some of the things she had said and done, but they were nice to her because she was my wife, and one of the other girls' friends, several of them actually genuinely apologized to her and me for not saying anything because they didn't know she was actually serious about some of the things she said. My wife has handled it super well, and I think it's a positive for her because she knows who her true friends are and can surround herself with only positive influence.

unknown 1:55:00

And I think that's great. I hate that she has to deal with this, but sometimes we learn the most through tough situations.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:15

A lot of other people had comments, and they basically exiled her from the friend group.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:21

Good, as it should be.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:22

As it should be.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:26

So the woman was from Sweden.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:30

The friend.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:31

Yeah, the friend.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:34

So the okay, so it was the what?

SPEAKER_06 1:55:36

Oh my friend who was Swedish.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:39

Was uh flirting with the husband.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:43

Okay, so so so it's probably well just uh I mean, I don't know if it's a culture.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:48

No, it's not a cultural thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:49

It's definitely not a culture thing because I don't know. I don't I don't know how many Swedish girls are like that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:55

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know enough about the I turned to you ginger beard.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:01

Wait, what? Wait, why?

SPEAKER_06 1:56:02

How would he know? Oh he I don't know. I guess he had a thing for Swedish girls.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:07

Well yeah, Swedish. So I mean I mean, I know I mean yeah, but he's never met a Swedish girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:13

So unless you count your sister, which I mean the only Swede I know is um PD PewDiePie and uh well PewDiePie! What's up, bros? How's it going?

SPEAKER_00 1:56:24

I mean, I mean I know it's I mean, I mean, I mean I know his wife is Italian, but PewDiePie.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:33

Yeah, but I've already said I prefer Latinas.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:39

Same I think we all prefer Latinos.

unknown 1:56:46

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_00 1:56:47

Well, so is um the hedgehog. Oh, shadow. Shadow the hedgehog prefers Latinos. Oh, yes. I imagine I I want um Chiaoing to say that. I love Latinas.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:02

I mean, just it's just an show in this Mexican show.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:08

All I can see is Ginger Beard just looking up into the sky and saying, I love big butts and again.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:16

And other buttons can't.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:19

That's really a perfume, a commercial art. Or quotes.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:24

It's called big buttons. No, no, no, it's called FOD. Alright, you wanna end it here? So yeah, so we'll end it here. It was a good red story overall. Uh Swedish girls are pieces of shit, I guess. Uh this one particular one. Well, this one in particular. So uh this has been another exciting episode of the Campbell Podcast. We are gonna try and do two episodes. We are planning on doing that, and next week, I believe Strong Arms is arriving next week.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:58

Uh not next week. Follow it. The week after.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:01

So the week after we will be fully together.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:05

I won't be here.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:07

Oh, yeah, you won't be here. Thursday?

SPEAKER_02 1:58:11

No, not next Thursday. But then the week after when Strong Arms the Sarm is here, I won't be here. I'll be in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:17

Oh. Oh, okay. That sucks. Yeah, it does. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:21

So if you want, I we can do this situation where I come in on the side. Yeah, yeah, we can do the phone thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:26

Yeah, face the time we'll use.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:30

You don't mind if we use your place, dude. Oh yeah, we'll be fine. I do have the key, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:58:35

So John has the key. We can still use this place.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:38

Sounds good, alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:39

Uh, we'll be in reverse.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:42

Alright, alright, hey. Alright then. Well, sounds good.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:45

Alright, so this has been another exciting episode of the Camelot Podcast. Have a good night, folks, and enjoy.