The Koala Konspiracy

Today is an interesting pod! Today we talk about DC vs Marvel, Villain edition. Captain C and One-Eye give their scores on the Mandolorian and Grogu movie; full review next week. Captain C discusses Lego Batman, like his thoughts on the game and how it portrays the legacy of Batman. Finally, we end with the story of a lifetime. Some might say... a Koala Konumdrum. Stay Tuned and happy travels from your lovable Floridian pirates.

Transcript

SPEAKER_08 0:00

What's up, world? This is the Cannonball Podcast. I am your host, Captain C with me and all wait a minute. Are we in another alternate world? We're in another reality. Because with us, we have Gingerbeard here in person. But we have one eyed Josh alone on the phone.

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I feel at ease now.

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Alright. Well, uh, so uh so today, so yes, for this episode we have uh a reverse, which is not normal. We have strong arms in person, daddy's home, and we have one eye away. Yeah, in Minnesota.

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Minnesota? You can just stay there. I'm in Minnesota.

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It's warm here, actually.

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Uh-huh.

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Warm? Well summer, right?

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So eight two degrees.

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And like always, we have Gingerbeard running the mic.

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Uh oh.

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Uh. Yeah, yes.

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I I exist.

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Yeah. So we have a fun episode. We have a lot of video game reviews, which is which we normally talk about video games, but not as often right now because it's been like a video game shortage.

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It's it's uh it's it has been a uh um it's just been a shortage.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

Yeah, because these days, like like in the year 2020, I'll think, well, we have we have we have to wait until uh next year.

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Yeah, for most of these.

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Yeah, for new games.

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Alright, so and we also have a couple movies. We we both saw um both me and uh one eye both saw The Mandalorian Grogu. We will give you our scores. We won't talk completely about it until Strong Arts gets his choice so we don't ruin it.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Yeah, and uh I'm not gonna I'm not going to watch it because you're gonna watch it on Disney Plus, we know. Well, yeah, I know, yeah.

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Alright, and uh I guess it's day, I guess we are gonna do a matches in the universe uh review next time.

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Yeah, next time.

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He wants to do it Sunday. Is Sunday? Yeah.

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Okay.

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Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

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Uh yeah. Alright, yeah.

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We can go out, we can do my small theater then.

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Okay, that's fine. We uh kept we're talking about in the in the in a mall about um action figures.

SPEAKER_08 2:38

Um Well, yeah, this is the this is yeah, it's in the 80s when they when they made we we talked about it before on the podcast. These are these are properties that action figures came before the story.

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And yeah, well well well the only um the only story I mean toys um like stated relevant was like yeah, Transformers and Teenage Merch Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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Sorry.

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Hey, is it talking a twister?

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And yeah, um I feel like this might be a cash crowd to reinvent the series to get kids invited and they're gonna be out a new toy line.

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I really don't think it's gonna be.

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I really don't think it's gonna do that because I don't Well maybe I card what's here on Netflix, right?

SPEAKER_08 3:26

Maybe, but like be honest with yourself. If you were a parent today and you went to go see T-Man and you saw a guy in a loincloth with no shirt on, yeah, and dress like that, would you would you be willing to buy your kid an action figure of that? No, no. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna reinvent the toy craze. Maybe the cat, the tiger cat. Well, can I be honest?

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What I think I'd rather see a thundercats movie.

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Honestly, I'd rather say a thundercats movie. To be fair, we're close to gay sex with He-Man.

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How? Well, don't want to. You know. Okay, well, well, well, is that You don't want to know, you don't wanna He-Man has like the last time I got I got I got I got into He-Man was like I was like six, I think.

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Well that the last time I got into He-Man is when the last time I watched Captain Planet, which is never Captain Planet!

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Well what you see, I'm talking about the uh 2000s um cartoon on on the universe and uh and it well liked it, but um as an adult with new perspective, yeah. It's it's kind of lame, to be honest.

SPEAKER_08 4:51

Alright, so uh that's one. Uh those are those are that's the next future movie. Um, another one that we're gonna talk about is actually a fun topic that I'll start right now. Uh we're doing uh villains comparisons between Marvel and DC. Um I saw a podcast not too long ago where they compared Spider-Man and Batman's Rogues Gallery because they're the two best right now for both companies. For now, yeah. And they but and hands down everyone would pick Batman's Rogues Gallery is clear number one.

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Well, they're more um iconic, what do you think?

SPEAKER_08 5:27

Well, yeah, they are they are more iconic. Well, Joker is hands down, probably. If you're gonna talk comic book villains, probably number one. Yeah, sorry. No questions, it's Joker. Like, if there's anyone that comes close, I don't I don't even know who would come close to that. Like, it's like Joker's up here, and everybody else is like here. Like he's that far ahead. Uh just the iconicness, because you have to admit, like, he's had the bet he had Jack Nicholson portray him. He had Heath Ledger, he had the voice king of all voices, Mark Hamill. Mark Hamill portray him. Skywalker, yeah. Yeah, he's had multiple other voice actors that have done justice to it.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Uh, and he's even been a guest character in Mortal Kombat 11. That's true.

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So that's true. So that's you know, like when when a character like that transcends to other properties, you you know he's iconic. Yeah, you know he's very iconic. I'm gonna be honest. Um, to do the the villain comparison, I basically thought this out where it's like, well, if you're gonna do it, you could you could do a villains versus Marvel comparison. And personally, I think DC has the better villains because you don't just have Batman's Rogues, you also have the Flash's rogues, you have Superman's Rogues, you have Wonder Woman's, those small but still kind of memorable.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Okay, how about Okay, so we take away Batman's Rogue Gallery and Spider-Man's Rogue Gallery and just have every every other hero's gallery.

SPEAKER_08 7:14

If you're gonna do that who's if you're gonna do that, if you're gonna take away Batman and you're gonna take away Spider-Man, I still still go to DC, in my opinion. I still think it goes to DC only because I think the next bat the next character is Superman's rogues. Lex Luther.

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Flash is obviously Well Flash I would say Flat Doomsday. Doomsday. He's the best. Dark side.

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Dark side. I would say Flash is number three. He's right next, he's right behind Superman's.

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Okay, I'll give you that.

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Yeah, he's right behind Superman. But I still because I think Superman is because Batman and Superman are like the one-two punch at DC, their Rogues Gallery. Though Superman's not as great as Batman's, it's still there.

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Okay, I was saying I was thinking down to some of the Marvel villains. Um, but they usually um like switch enemies. Like, is he is he's Spider-Man's de Spider-Man's enemy or Daredevil's enemy?

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I always think he's I always say he's Daredevil's first because Daredevil and him went at it first. Yeah, he's the kingpin of New York, so he's going to go up against Spider-Man, Daredevil. You know, he's gonna go up against but I think Daredevil is hit because he's a district attorney.

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Oh well, yeah, he has his own anvil.

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Or he's a lawyer. Sorry, he's a lawyer. I don't think he's a district attorney, is he? No. Yeah, he's a lawyer. He runs his he ran his own.

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He runs his own practice.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

Yeah, yeah. And uh Doctor Doo, uh, he I know he's he's a he's a fifth like Fantastic Ford villain. Like he usually um like he's now an Avengers villain.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Oh yeah, he is yeah, you know that like if I have any gripe with Marvel, that's like my only gripe is that we have not had a good Doctor Doom portrayal like ever. Not in It's been 20 years since the first Fantastic Four. This is Stanley's personal favorite Marvel villain.

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And he hasn't had well then to answer Kyle's question the the next if you took away Spider-Man's Rogues Gallery, so it's going up in Superman's Rogues, then the next the next one would be the first family of Marvel Fantastic Four, because I think their rogues have a little bit more weight. Yeah, because you got you have Galactus, you have Doctor Doom, you have um I guess Namor, but he's a uh Is he more of a Black Panther villain? He's more of a Black Panther, I guess. Well, actually, I don't know. He was introduced in Fantastic Four, so I always go whoever was wherever which he was actually he was um introduced alongside on the Cat America, I think.

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Okay, never mind them.

SPEAKER_08 10:20

Yeah, so he's more of a Well he's not even a Cat America villain because he has more gripe with Fantastic Four.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Okay, like who do they like who do they fight the most? These villains. I think who fights I think Doom fights the Fantastic Feel.

SPEAKER_08 10:35

But who does Namor fight the most? Honestly, himself. My worst enemy is me. My worst enemy. If I just have my worst enemy are hot milk bloods.

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Hot spicy. Luckiness. Oh, yeah. Sorry, shadow, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yeah, that's good. Uh it's uh toxicas.

SPEAKER_08 10:59

Yeah, no, so I yeah, no, I I guess fan that's if but then that would they lose immediately because Superman's brogues, you can name without even saying, you can name off so many serum looks. You have brain yeah, Brainiac, Luthor, Dark Side, Dark Side. Oh yeah, now you can't.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Just so so Brainiac, Luther, Zod, Zod, uh Doomsday, Doomsday He's he's Livewire.

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Live wire, definitely, Toy Maker.

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Oh, Toy Man.

SPEAKER_08 11:30

Oh, yeah. I thought he was Toymaker. Uh oh, don't forget.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

Okay, so Toy Man then. And then don't forget, Nuclear Man. Got you. From Superman 4, The Quest for Peace. Yeah. I don't know who that is. What did you talk about?

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The guy you have to say his name backwards.

SPEAKER_08 11:49

Oh. Oh, Mr. Mixus Pick. I can't say that fucking name. What?

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I can't I don't know his name.

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You have to say fast words.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

Okay. Who tells Bell? M X wait. M X Y S Mixus?

SPEAKER_08 12:10

Mixy Plistic. I don't know. Mixus. I don't know. It's a very hard name to say. It's a very it's a very it it's a ton tie.

unknown 12:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 12:21

It's a ton tie. I I I call him the M. Okay. He's the M. So you have that one. I mean, like, to be fair, like you could also you could also throw in um what's what's that one? Lois. Well, she's uh she's everyone's enemy.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 12:41

She's she's the enemy of time. The media. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I don't know. Even if you threw away Superman and you just had the Flash. Flash, Green Lantern. Yeah, you Bizarro. Yeah, no. Yeah, Bizarro counts. No, if you threw away Superman's rogues and you just counted the Flash, again, you can name off a lot more of the Flash's rogues, like Toymaker, um Zoom or Zoom.

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King Shark.

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Reverse Flash. Yeah, King Shark. Girl, Grod.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah, Grod. Um trying to remember that freezing Captain Cold. Captain Cold, yeah, Captain Cold, yeah. Uh freaking uh boomerang, captain boomerang. I know Zoom. We already said Zoom. Uh Boomerang. Um mirror master.

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Oh yeah. Okay, yeah.

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What? You break it up, what heat?

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Heat glider?

SPEAKER_08 13:36

Heat? What? No, it's not heat glider, it's heat blast. Or heat. It's some some stupid fire. I don't know. I don't know. You look like you're about to sleep.

unknown 13:45

I'm not asleep, trust me.

SPEAKER_08 13:47

Alright, no. It's uh heat storm. Or whatever. I don't know. I I dude, fire villains suck. Okay. They their names are all their name, they're their names are all the same. They're fire fucking they're pyro people.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Well, as X-Men. Well, yeah, but they're okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Well, there's another one from Marvel, X-Men. Okay, yeah, they're the third X-Men. That's like Magneto.

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He got Apocalypse. Racism?

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Racist?

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You know what? You know what? I made that mistake. It's not Fantastic Four. It would be the X-Men.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 14:18

It wouldn't be the first family after Spider Man, it would be the X-Men. I'm sorry, I made that mistake because you can name off more X-Men villains to be.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Magneto, Apocalypse, Saver 2, Saver, Lady Death Strike. Yeah, Lady Death Strike. Striker.

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Mystique. Blob.

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Toad. Dude, the blob. Toad blob. Wait, do we say Mystique card? Yeah, we say mystique. Juggernaut. Yeah, the Juggernaut. I'm the Juggernaut bitch. I love that so much.

SPEAKER_08 14:47

Yeah, no, but that's what it's saying. So, yeah, no, so it's the X-Men. So, I mean, like if you're gonna do it, yeah, the X-Men are probably the second.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

They are, yeah? I think so, yeah.

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I would say if you're gonna go between X-Men versus Superman, that's a close that's much more closer than you think.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

Well, I mean, like what the healing, um, well the the healing, what's super healing and the I feel like X-Men's but I feel like the X-Men Rogue Gallery takes it over Superman's rogues. I say so trigger. Um, yeah, I think if like like what if uh what if Alex Luthor met um Magneto?

SPEAKER_08 15:26

Well they would get along.

unknown 15:27

Really?

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:28

They don't like not they don't like that neither one like Nazis.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Well, oh yeah, I mean other hate oppression.

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They both hate oppression. Although one wants to oppress actually they both want to oppress, so never mind.

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Yeah, I mean I mean Alex is afraid to be oppressed like out. So I mean.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

I have a feeling I mean, can we really only pick five?

SPEAKER_08 16:04

I mean if you want me to do top ten. Are you prepared to do top ten? Sure, I am.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Fuck it.

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Alright, ginger beer needs ginger beer needs to his time, so he'll go last.

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Okay then.

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Um I don't really care. It's up to you two, because you two seem to be ready.

SPEAKER_03 16:23

Top ten?

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Top ten, both Marvel, D, and DC. Which villains? Go. I guess one eye, go up.

unknown 16:32

Number one.

SPEAKER_08 16:33

No, no, not number one. Start at ten.

SPEAKER_05 16:35

Okay, number ten is three. Magneto.

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So Magneto is number ten. Okay.

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Number eight is nine.

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Nine, dude, nine.

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Alright, number nine. Number nine is I don't know. What?

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Are you okay?

SPEAKER_05 16:51

I'm fine.

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I doubt it.

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Nice.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

Number nine. What are the pizza? Uh we're gonna go with Carnage. Yeah. What that makes up.

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Uh hang on, hang on, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:04

Number nine is Carnage.

SPEAKER_08 17:05

Carnage is number nine. Okay, eight.

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Number eight is um, we're gonna go with Captain Cold.

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Okay, first DC, cracks. Alright. Nice, okay.

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Number number number seven is gonna be dot com.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_05 17:19

Yeah. That's right. Number six is gonna be we're gonna go with Killer Frost.

SPEAKER_07 17:26

Okay, six, killer frost, alright.

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Number five is gonna be reverse flash.

SPEAKER_07 17:31

Alright, so that's alright.

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Number four is gonna be Mr. Freeze.

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Okay.

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Number three is Joker.

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Really shit. Okay.

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Number two is we're gonna go with Craven.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_05 17:51

And number one is your favorite of all Scarecrow.

SPEAKER_08 17:55

Yeah, I figured.

SPEAKER_04 17:56

Makes sense, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 17:57

Well, he out of out of the five out of the four of us, he's the only one that really loves Scarecrow.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Like just really he has a he has like a dick for it.

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A horror? Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

He loves straws, huh?

SPEAKER_08 18:11

Well, he likes fear. He likes horror. So it turns him on. Yeah, it turns him on.

SPEAKER_05 18:16

Yeah, it kind of does.

SPEAKER_08 18:17

Alright, so uh strong arm shirt. Start at number 10.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Okay, uh number 10, I'll go. Only got the five. Uh shoot, I've been writing them down, but.

SPEAKER_07 18:31

Oh, alright, sorry. I'll do next.

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Alright, you go next? Alright, you're ready. Alright, you ready?

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Alright, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Number 10. Number 10.

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Number 10, uh, green goblin.

SPEAKER_07 18:42

I saw that coming.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Yeah, because that's special. He's like he's like a green joker on a glider.

SPEAKER_08 18:53

That's pretty much all he is. He did the one thing the Joker would never do. He fucked he fucked Spider-Man's girl.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

That's true, yeah. Yeah, he's more of a scumbag, also. And number nine, I would say. Uh Suther.

SPEAKER_08 19:18

Like Suther and number nine? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

He's he's okay, but uh he's too petty. Well yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_08 19:27

Um say uh saber tooth. Sabertooth and number eight, okay. Surprised, I thought he would be higher for you.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

Yeah, it was yeah, well, saber tooth is okay.

SPEAKER_08 19:40

Alright, so number seven.

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I would say um I think I'm a woman.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

DC. Well, okay, what seven? Okay, yeah. I'm gonna go with um um absorbing no no, sorry, now parasite, I think.

SPEAKER_08 20:08

Parasite, okay. All right, yeah. Seven, okay, number six.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

Um freeze.

SPEAKER_08 20:16

Alright. Number five.

SPEAKER_03 20:19

Um electro. Alright, number four. Um venom before you turn.

SPEAKER_08 20:31

Okay. Before you turn again, okay. Yeah. Your first bronze. Bronze medal.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

Yeah. Venom.

SPEAKER_08 20:37

No, no, no, no, no, bronze medal. Three. Number three. Bronze medal.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 20:42

Okay, well, um, we'll player that was your number four, it was venom, so this is your yeah, number three, bronze.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Um, I was saying toothpaste.

SPEAKER_08 20:53

Okay. All right. Number two. You really like tooth face. I did not realize. Oh, toothpaste? Two. Silver. Your silver metal.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Yeah. Apocalypse.

SPEAKER_08 21:10

Okay. Number one, your gold.

SPEAKER_03 21:15

Joker.

SPEAKER_08 21:16

I I had a feeling. Is that obvious? Well, yeah, I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Alright, your turn. Alright, I'm ready.

SPEAKER_07 21:24

Alright, go for it.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Alright, number ten, throw you a curveball with this one. Killmonger. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Oh, okay. Well, fucking Black Panther, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Yep. Okay. Number nine. Nine, Carnage. Okay. Alright. Eight, Green Goblin. Okay. Seven Ultron. Ultron. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 21:47

Nice, okay. Nice bad, not bad.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Six, Lex, Luther.

SPEAKER_07 21:51

Lex Luther, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Five, Doc Ock. Okay.

unknown 21:55

Alright, alright.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Four is Loki. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 22:00

Ooh, three.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Well, another one y'all forgot about. Rage Al Ghoul.

SPEAKER_05 22:07

Fuck!

unknown 22:11

Demon's head, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Alright.

SPEAKER_08 22:13

Uh. Doesn't matter if you forgot it, dude. It's your list, what you like, so you might not like Rage Al Ghoul.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Yeah, he's overused. And then two, if it is he really? Do you really think so?

SPEAKER_05 22:27

I mean, well, I mean I mean he's underused, honestly.

SPEAKER_08 22:30

I think he's overused in right now in the video. Like in comp? Yeah. On the comic books.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Well I hate that they they they uh but they apply he's immortal. And yet like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

And he died in Batman Begins. And then came back or something or no, only in a hallucination, and then his daughter came back in the Dark Knight Rises.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

Oh yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

But we didn't know until the very end.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Alright. Well so, um Gold. Alright, oh there's two.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Oh, two two uh two Doctor Doom, one Joker. And if I had a choice, obviously Heath Ledger. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

Say I grew up. I'm with Heath. What?

SPEAKER_08 23:22

Mark Hamill. He goes Mark Hamill Joker.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

Okay. Oh yeah, the boy the voice actor, yeah. I mean action. I mean, I say heath Ledger.

SPEAKER_05 23:32

Yeah, yeah, Heath Ledger for a lot of actors.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Okay. Well, I always say there's like two kinds of performances in a superhero movie. The first is one who's like the picture-perfect casting that you could never cast see anyone else playing, like Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier or Robert Dying Jr. as Iron Man. And then the second is those who completely redefine the character and make it their own. Heath Ledger. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Yeah, he does. I feel like he goes he goes off script sometimes, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Well no, he was Oh yeah, there are two off-scripted moments that are like some of the best moments.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

The bomb and the trying put it on.

SPEAKER_08 24:18

It wasn't just the bomb. The entire the entire entire scene at the dinner party is also off script because he improvised most of his he never brought he didn't improvise all the lines, but he if he improvised what he was doing.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 24:34

Because he knew this is the first time anyone has ever seen him in the full getup, and everybody was freaking the fuck out. Cause he walked in, and I think they said that was one take.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

He's perfect. And then the same thing when uh you know Gordon gets promoted to commissioner, they're all clapping, and then Joker's just sitting in his cell.

SPEAKER_08 24:56

That was all that was off script as well.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Alright. Alright. It's like it's like a Joker who was playing him.

SPEAKER_07 25:05

Well, yeah, I mean, most people would say that.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Who's playing who?

SPEAKER_01 25:11

Alright, Captain C my top ten? Yeah, sure, yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_08 25:16

Number ten. Uh Carnage.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 25:25

Number nine. Um go with I got I'll go dark side. I really do like dark side.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 25:39

Number eight is um. No. Number eight would be Galactus. Okay. Number eight. Number seven is Magneto.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 25:58

Um number six is Scarecrow.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Sorry, Josh.

SPEAKER_08 26:06

Doesn't matter. You guys didn't even name Scarecrow on your list. Yeah. Number five is Doc Ock. I'll go five.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Yeah, okay. He seems like a five.

SPEAKER_08 26:24

Yeah, he's he's a five. Especially in Sam Raimi's movie. He's definitely probably well played in that movie.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

He really is, yeah. He it was a good choice for a casting choice, you know.

SPEAKER_08 26:36

Top four uh my top four. Uh gonna be a tough one. Not number one, just these these just these three. Um Doctor Doom at number four. I'm curious. Yeah, comics.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Yeah, movies are just awful.

SPEAKER_08 26:59

The movies are awful, but the comic book makes up for it. Plus the video games. If you video games do make up for it because they actually are very comic book accurate.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Yes, like uh like uh what video game was he in?

SPEAKER_08 27:11

He's in a lot, all the video games.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Marvel for Kacko. He's pretty good in that one.

SPEAKER_08 27:16

Yeah, he's pretty he's actually very portrayed in that one.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Number three was my command.

SPEAKER_08 27:22

Number three, let's see. Well, yeah. Number I'm gonna go doomsday at three.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

He did he didn't kill Whisperman, so yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:36

Number two, Mr. Freeze. Okay, number one, Joker. I figured he had a Joker, but see, I'm torn because I know all you like Heath Ledger. I'm torn because I like both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Yeah, because you watched um the original.

SPEAKER_08 27:55

I mean Well, the original 1989 Batman was my Batman because I had the collector set for all four movies. So I used to watch that movie like there was no tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Yeah, the only um the only um like movie for that um era I watched it as a kid was um and Robin and as as as I think as the only movie I saw, I think.

SPEAKER_08 28:26

I mean I've seen parts of it. He's pretty good.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

You should watch 1989.

SPEAKER_08 28:33

Yeah, sure. We gotta we gotta we gotta do a 1989 watch then. Batman 1989. We also have to do Batman Returns.

SPEAKER_04 28:41

I want the one that has um I prepare you to my kids, probably.

SPEAKER_08 28:46

That's Batman Forever. Probably one of the worst ones. Oh, it is?

SPEAKER_05 28:50

Yeah, so that's the one I like.

SPEAKER_08 28:51

That's the one he likes. It's terrible then. Yeah, that's the Schumacher. The Tim Burton ones are beloved.

unknown 28:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 28:58

Alright, so yeah, no. I I'm gonna be honest with you. I the way I compare the two, I say Heath Ledger is what you what what most comic fans would say is the eclipse of modern Joker. That's basically what he did. He did the modern joker, like what the Joker of the uh 2000s, right? Yeah, the the Joker now, which is like the crazy off-the-wall, like we'll cut his own fucking face off and you know, do not give a shit. That's who Heath Letcher played. Jack Nicholson played Golden Age Joker, the old original mobster type Joker um made you scared because he was insane and enjoyed killing you. Um so I like the way that they played him because Jack Nicholson looked like he was having a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

I know, especially It's tiny and one of my favorite lines.

SPEAKER_08 29:57

Well my favorite no no one of my favorite joker lines, which I I it was in the it was in Lego Batman, the video game, is uh when he's sitting up there, he's like, He stole my balloons! He stole my balloons! Gun Bob. And then Bob hands the gun, he you've been promoted. Just one of my favorite, I just love because he gets so like he goes like he stole my balloons, and then you get so fucking pissed off, he stole my balloons!

SPEAKER_03 30:29

And of course, you said um the devil thing, uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 30:34

Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? That's the re that's the line that actually confirms to Batman that he killed his parents because he didn't know what Jack looked like. The man who shot his parents, he didn't know what he looked like old. It wasn't until he said that line that he's like, oh my god, that's the man who killed my parents.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Yeah, I'm I'm a little I'm a little conflicted about um him being uh a Joe Chill, also.

SPEAKER_08 31:08

Well, no, they it was it was a choice, it was Tim Burton's choice.

SPEAKER_05 31:11

My favorite line from Jack Nicholson Joker is when he says, I'm back, and as you can see, I'm a lot happier.

SPEAKER_08 31:19

Okay. Anyway, no, no, but it was actually a choice by Tim Burton. Tim Burton and I think Jack Nicholson um and the people who wrote the movie, they they didn't I think their thing was it's like they didn't want to have some random person kill the ways. They wanted like that, they wanted that like comparison between like like you created me and then I created you. Like Yeah, he's like it's like you you you created me, and he said he said you created me first, and then uh just Well no Joker said you created me, and then Batman says you created me first when you killed my parents. He's like, I don't even know you. Yeah, well, you wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you? No, no, he hits the glasses, it hits him with that. No, no, you actually punched him square in the face. Or he or he did that. I don't I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

It was it's a fast, it's like a rigging row thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 32:25

So he hits uh he hits him square in the face. And uh no, it's like no, I just see I like both because I think Jack Nicholson does a great job at portraying the original Golden Age Joker, whereas Heath Ledger does the modern Joker. Like he's like he does, and most and most people would say the modern Joker is actually inspired by Heath Ledger's performance because it was such a memorable performance that they needed that more in the comic books, right? So in actuality, like because New 52 came out right after that, and the Joker became really dark. Yeah, because of because and it most likely skills off, yeah. Well, yeah, it's most likely because of Heath Ledger's performance. They they were like that, we need that, but we they went even harder in the comic books. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:18

Okay, so then who would be the created the comic book series? The Arkham one?

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Okay, okay. What what was your question?

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Oh, yeah, you're saying all right.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Then who would be the next joker behind them?

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Adrian Leto. Not him.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

Jerry Leto is like shit. He's the horse. Oh, you know what? I got it. Uh Cameron Mongan from Gotham. He's pretty good, yeah. Cameron from Gotham. Yeah. Yeah, he's good. I said who well no, the question was like, who's the next best joker behind those two? For live action? Yeah. Yeah, Cameron.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

Yeah.

unknown 34:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 34:02

Well, right now, because we don't we've only seen him in a deleted scene. Wait, in the Romero.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Uh was he Romero? Listen.

SPEAKER_08 34:09

Who?

SPEAKER_03 34:10

Was Caesar Romero?

SPEAKER_08 34:11

Caesar Romero plays the that's like the Silver Age. Yeah, he's the Silver.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

He's the perfect when uh He's the perfect iteration of the Silver Age. Like comics were like they were safe. They were really safe. For kids, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 34:26

Well that's why I said he plays the Silver Age Joker, which well, yeah. No offense, like well, but if you're a Batman fan, like you don't particularly care for that.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

Really, yeah. I mean, especially if you're um like young in the uh as the age, you know, like you're like do you like like pretty sure um most um the kids watched watched the original Wall 60s, probably like in their 70s by now.

SPEAKER_08 35:00

Oh yeah. My dad, yeah, yeah, my dad 60. My dad, my dad watched it. He's he's almost 70, he's 60.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Oh my my dad says the same line. Quick rubbing! Get the shark repellent! Holy um holy heavid dentry.

SPEAKER_03 35:18

I don't know! Holy holy hell! Holy shit, baby! Holy cabelly families. Holy something.

SPEAKER_08 35:30

My favorite, well, my favorite line from the 60s, and it's a riddler line. And it and this is the only thing, it's I I don't understand how this is a riddle. But he says, a sparrow with a machine gun. A sparrow with a a machine gun. Yep. I don't guess. But it the riddler said it.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Well, well, I guess he wasn't uh he he probably wasn't in his right head.

SPEAKER_08 35:59

No, he wasn't, because uh you have to be crazy if you're gonna wear uh green skin tight outfit.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Yeah, not smart.

SPEAKER_08 36:07

I mean like the riddler these days are smarter and like more uh Well, it's actually really hard to write for the Riddler because you have to make him so intelligent, but you also have to you also can't go too far that he's boring.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

Well, I gotta fine line, also, right?

SPEAKER_08 36:24

Well, yeah, but there's like a fine line that you have to do with the Riddler, and very few people can pull it off. It's really hard. It's actually all you would say it's much easier to write for the Joker, even though the Joker is probably even just as hard. Because it's like Joker's hard because it's like well, what hasn't been done?

SPEAKER_03 36:46

What is what is black and white and rent all over?

SPEAKER_08 36:50

Well, yeah, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

And then like the Did shot? I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 36:53

Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, but the Riddler, like you also can't yeah, you can't make his riddles stupid. You have to make them complex and very well it's a very because you it takes a it takes a really good writer to write good riddles.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

Okay. So then so where does Matt Reeves and that Batman for that riddler, how does he fall into that category? Wait, who? Well, the riddler is always a terrorist.

SPEAKER_05 37:20

Yeah, I mean I like that riddler actually.

SPEAKER_08 37:23

I like him a lot, so I enjoyed that riddler too, because the Matt Reeves, the Batman, the Riddler in the movie.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

Is it is that is that like the actor who played him or no Matt Reeves is the director. Oh, sorry, sorry, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 37:35

It's his movie. I don't I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Yeah, he was a good he was he played a good um like mentally uh mentally unstable Riddler, you know, like well that's the because that's the thing.

SPEAKER_08 37:46

Like if you're gonna go like Riddler would be a terrorist in the real world.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

Like he wouldn't be uh just uh trap uh artist or something like that.

SPEAKER_08 37:56

Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't be a trap artist. In fact, they actually did Earth One Batman with that Riddler because Earth One Batman the comic book series, Riddler is a terrorist. Yeah, like he kills people, he blows people up. Like he yes, he does riddles, but he you know does them in terrorist, you know, things. That's why I said it's like well, my dad says, like, Riddler is not supposed to be a terrorist. Like yeah in the real world he would be. Yeah, I get if he's using explosives and things like that, and he's doing misdirects and things like that, like in the real world, you could say he would be a terrorist.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Yeah, and uh and he might hear arguings that um he's not he's not supposed to be and like but well like like his his like you'll hear he's not he's not supposed to be realistic, but then you're like well well with a joker. I mean, if you were real.

SPEAKER_08 38:52

Well, if he was real, he'd be dead. Because there's no way Oh yeah, yeah, Joker would be a whole yeah, no no Joker would be put to death if if if you took because Heath Lancher, right? Heath Lancher's Joker didn't fall into a bad chemical, so he was just fucking insane.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_08 39:07

Yeah, he'd get the death penalty in the real world.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

He would, yeah. He would.

SPEAKER_08 39:11

It wouldn't matter if he's insane because of all the people that he's killed. I think the judge would make like it would be a it would be a death penalty. Because you can't you can't cure him. He he's completely it would there would also be a a cult, a joker in real life. Well, yeah, there would be a cult of jokers. That's what Batman Beyond does, is they make an entire yeah, the Jokers is like a cult. Yeah, they're a fanboys to Joker, even though none of them go as hardcore as the crown prince of crime did.

SPEAKER_03 39:44

Yeah, well so well so that's really realistic.

SPEAKER_08 39:49

I mean, it does happen, sure. Well, yeah, no, I mean like I'm curious to see how they're going to have in the Batman the new movie, the Batman 2. Yeah, the sequel, because we only saw the Joker in a deleted scene. He was it he wasn't in the real movie. Well, at the end he was, but yeah, at the end, but he wasn't he was in a deleted scene, and we got to see him play out more. And to be honest with you, he stole the shove. Even at the deleted scene.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

He just did well, based on what I've seen and what I've heard from the second movie, he's not even gonna be the villain. The main villain will probably be Mr. Freeze. Well, they they've been saying Toothface. They've been saying Toothface.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

I thought I mean Playface.

SPEAKER_08 40:33

Playface is his own movie.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry, I forgot you.

SPEAKER_08 40:36

Playface is it's a horror movie. Which I mean, I saw the trailer, I don't particularly a joker. It's like the Joker, but I don't know how good it's gonna be. I mean, it's a good concept for a horror movie.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

Oh yeah, I mean, Playface is like he fits he fits a genre, right?

SPEAKER_08 40:57

Well, yeah, he fits the genre for a horror movie. I mean, they all I mean most of Batman's Rogues fits the genre for horror if you really want to if you go that far. Well, Joker's more a slasher. The Joker's the slasher, man bats the monster, villain, Scarecrow is a fucking nightmare on his own. Well yeah, he's psychological horror, psychological thriller for scarecrow. It's like it's scary because it's also scary because like you could be sitting across from somebody who can change its form to match you. Yeah. That's what's scary about it is that like now it's like somebody out there can be pretend to be you and do crime, and you're like, you're gonna get blamed for it.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 41:46

That's the reason why clay face is scary. Also, the fact that he could kill you without you even noting, it's it like he could chant you could transform into like your loved one.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Or after he he kills a he kills a person and the camera's still on and um can come out as the different look look, as if um, you know, like he could he could he could get away with it, right?

SPEAKER_08 42:12

Yeah, also to and to also to put like strong art's point of view, just because the Joker's not gonna be the villain in the movie does not mean he's not gonna be in the movie. Because he was in the last one, even though he didn't play a big role in it, he was setting something up.

SPEAKER_03 42:27

Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's like um having uh like okay, but you're spider man. Um um agreement goblin, he wasn't a but he died.

SPEAKER_08 42:43

Well, yeah, he died. Yeah, yeah, Green Goblin Jr.

SPEAKER_03 42:47

Yeah, like like it's kind of like that a little like having a villain um around or not or do anything.

SPEAKER_08 42:56

Well, he wasn't it wasn't that he wasn't doing anything, Batman was using him as like a way to figure out information.

SPEAKER_05 43:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 43:03

Because he's like, I don't know why, but this person, I'll be honest with you, like the only thing that's not explained is like why does Batman go s why did Batman go see him? The only thing I can think of is that like he was either a villain or he's he he intrigued Batman enough that like he wants to s he was testing him to see like what like how intelligent is he?

SPEAKER_05 43:34

What yeah, it's possible.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

What if what if they used to be your friends?

SPEAKER_08 43:39

I doubt I I doubt they're gonna go that route.

SPEAKER_03 43:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 43:42

Maybe but he just or um or or maybe um he um I feel like Batman feels guilty because he's the reason why he fell in the vat of pit, because Batman jumped down and scared him off. Remember, red remember, Joker supposedly as. The red hood is a guy is a two-pit crook being used by mobsters.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

You think the go with the row with um with the wife and the baby? Like I don't know. Okay, that okay. I would like that.

SPEAKER_08 44:14

I mean I mean most people probably would like that, but I again I don't know because how many more movies is Matt Reeves gonna do from all from all we're hearing, this is his last one. Because James Gunn doesn't want them doing any more, but then again, it might not be his last one because this one, if it makes a shit ton of money, you know Warner Brothers, the new owners of Warner Brothers, Paramount, it's gonna be another one.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

I don't know. I don't know. It seems like they've rebooted Batman too many times.

SPEAKER_08 44:45

Over and over and over.

SPEAKER_05 44:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 44:48

That's why, that's why. Like, I I'm happy that Jensen Eccles got to be Batman.

SPEAKER_07 44:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 44:53

Like he's gonna be Batman, but I'm also kind of like, I kind of wish it was just Robert Pattinson. Just fucking freeing the Batman over to the world.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

I wanna I wanna see Robert, like like Bruce Wayne, you know, like just uh like a thinking uh he's like, hey, I'm Bruce Wayne, how you doing that?

SPEAKER_01 45:15

See, more honestly, Christian Bale played the best Bruce Wayne by far.

SPEAKER_08 45:20

Well, yes, he did play the best Bruce Wayne, and also, like I said, like I understand where they were going with Robert Pattinson. I get what they were doing.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

He's grieving, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 45:28

Well, no, it's not that it's not that he's grieving, it's more of this is his second year, because that's how it was pitched. The Batman's his second year. This is year two, and he hasn't learned how to do the dual identity yet. He's a hundred percent Batman. He has he he's pretty much he only uses Bruce Wayne as like you know, when he needs to. He's a hundred he's a hundred percent Batman, so he hasn't learned how to do the dual identity thing.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

So yeah, so in the second movie he will I have no idea.

SPEAKER_08 46:00

I haven't seen the second movie.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

We're working on it. I mean, I mean we're we're waiting on it, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 46:05

Well, for all we know, the second movie he'll he'll be like Christian. Who knows? Like he took a lot of criticisms for that, so maybe he'll change. He is an actor after all, if he he he can change the thing.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

What if Christian Bale played uh Thomas Wayne and dies?

SPEAKER_01 46:25

Uh yeah, I yeah, I don't think uh we'll ever see him in that universe again. Otherwise, we would have in you know that Flash movie where they brought back Michael Keaton and no no George Clooney Bat Nipples now that image is burned into my brain.

SPEAKER_03 46:48

Oh the ass. A bad ass. Remember that?

SPEAKER_08 46:54

Is that acknowledged truth? That there were so few Batman movies. I we watched that on so many occasions. Because when I used to watch, I used to watch all four movies back to back.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I remember the I remember at the end of the flash movie, he's like, who the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_08 47:14

No, that's the joke.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

He's like, What the fuck is this guy here?

SPEAKER_08 47:18

No, I um no, I no, I'm just we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

Um we're still waiting as of um as of June 2026, you know? Would you like to know the Lego Batman? Yes, please. I will I will let it seem to be um it seems to have put a hold high regard for it.

SPEAKER_08 47:42

It's pretty good. It's a pretty it's a pretty good adaptation of all Batman's movies and legacy. Is it better than any other games? Yes, very much so.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Awesome. Good to hear. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 47:53

It's actually it's actually I I would say it's probably the most accurate to, you know, because actually that's not true. The first Lego Batman game was more geared towards like the Schumacher movies.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 48:12

The very first it just didn't have any voice acting.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

It was just like it's like grunting.

SPEAKER_08 48:17

Yeah, it was grunting and like it was basically Lego humor. Yeah. Because they they would do something stupid and it would make you laugh.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

Until what's what did they add voice acting?

SPEAKER_08 48:28

Uh Lego Batman 2.

SPEAKER_03 48:31

I guess they were like, you know what?

SPEAKER_08 48:34

Um Well, that was the Lego video game people were like, we would like them to talk.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Because also the uh Legos, the latest Lego Star Wars game. Oh, and the uh Lego Marvel from 2014.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

Inea Jones?

SPEAKER_08 48:50

No, I didn't talk about it. Actually, no, Ineira Jones, the very first Andrew Jones was in the era where they didn't talk. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:56

Yeah, that was before. You're right. I think Lego Marvel from 2014 was the first.

SPEAKER_08 49:02

But Lego Batman 2 is actually the first time they had voice acting, and then Lego Marvel. So Lego Batman 2 actually starts the voice acting.

SPEAKER_03 49:10

So that that started the era of talking Legos.

SPEAKER_08 49:14

Well, video games.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

Well well, yeah, so yeah. And um pirates up the current bean, but yeah, they don't talk either.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Oh well, but uh they do have Lego Sonic, and all of them talk, and it's their original voice actors. Like Roger Craig Smith and Mike Pollack, and one eye's just getting his face again. Whenever we bring it up.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

Well played so um the Lego, what games have improved, I think.

SPEAKER_08 49:52

Okay, yes, because it begins with okay, the first villain that you actually meet is um is Jack.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

So uh Jack Napier.

SPEAKER_08 50:05

Well he's not called Napier, he's just Jack.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

The Jack, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 50:07

Yeah, because he kills the Wains um with uh Falcone.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

How'd that um how that play out in the game?

SPEAKER_08 50:17

Like in the game? Uh he becomes the Joker.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

Well, how did he but did but he killed him?

SPEAKER_08 50:24

Like really? Killed him? Like Yeah, he took yeah, he took his gun and shot him. What's up? But you don't see it, you see the little boy cowering as both as the Lego pearls fall.

SPEAKER_03 50:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 50:38

And then you see Jim Gordon, black. Jim Gordon.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

Oh, black?

SPEAKER_08 50:43

Yeah, from the Batman. What's up? Like I said, they're incorporating the Batman, all of his legacy.

SPEAKER_03 50:48

Yeah, I think you told me uh um Jack, a joker, he turns into um Heath, a Joker, right? Yes, eventually. Yeah, which I like.

SPEAKER_08 50:58

I mean it's it's the same character, so I mean it's not like you're doing much. It's the same voice actor that's playing them, it's just you're changing their look.

SPEAKER_03 51:07

Which I appreciate, you know, like it's the creative.

SPEAKER_08 51:09

Well, yeah, no, so uh so it starts off with the Wayne's being killed, then it goes to Batman and from Batman Begin, where uh he gets into a fight with Falcone's men and at the fish at the fish docks.

SPEAKER_03 51:23

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:24

Um Officer Gordon's trying to stop him from fighting, and then it goes, and then um his first ever time, the first real villain that you meet, besides Jack, who's Joker, uh Roz Al Ghoul.

SPEAKER_04 51:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_08 51:39

And he basically tells him to go to the mountains and begins Batman begins.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

Oh Leonison?

SPEAKER_08 51:45

Yeah, Nissan, yeah. You have to find a blue flower on top of a mountain, and then Batman begins. Then um Roz dies. Well, not dies, but you know, like he blows up the thing, like like in Batman begins. He blows up the um the tower? No, no, the uh the uh cabin.

SPEAKER_03 52:05

Yeah, the cabin, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 52:06

Well, not really the cabin. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_03 52:07

I forgot I forgot.

SPEAKER_08 52:09

No, and then it goes, and then it cuts back to him on a plane, and basically it goes to him hunting down the penguin from the Batman. Except the penguin looks like Tim Burton's penguin.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

Oh yeah. Dan Vito.

SPEAKER_08 52:24

Danny Vito. And then uh Scarecrow? No.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

I was hoping.

SPEAKER_08 52:30

No, they they take they take down Falcone in the first chapter, then chapter two begins with Joker. Like uh Joker is in chapter two, along with Cow Woman, and they they they fuse Batman Returns and Batman and I together for chapter two.

SPEAKER_03 52:47

Batman Returns?

SPEAKER_08 52:48

Batman Returns, the second movie, it's called Batman Returns, which is the Penguin and the Catwoman from 1991, 92. They fuse those two movies for chapter two, right? So Joker is and Penguin are taken down in the same chapter. Catwoman looks exactly like uh Batman Returns, Catwoman, her get up. Meow.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 53:14

That's how she is. You know, that's just Lego.

SPEAKER_03 53:16

I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_08 53:17

That's the it's funny. Um she's also black. Okay, like Holly. Like Halle Berry? Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, not Halle Berry, the Batman. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

Oh, okay. All right. Thank God.

SPEAKER_03 53:35

I forgot. I believe he existed.

SPEAKER_08 53:38

No, no, no. Not Halle Berry, Catwoman. The the bat the bat when I say the Batman, I remember all of the race swap is because of the Batman. Yeah. So the race like Jim, like Jim Gordon's daughter, Barbara, she's a mix.

SPEAKER_03 53:54

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_08 53:55

She's mixed, because obviously. Um and then it goes to chapter three is the Batman and Rock uh Batman Forever. Okay with uh Two Face. Redler's not in it. Redler is doing the Arkham Asylum shit.

SPEAKER_00 54:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 54:13

Because it's kind of made like Arkham Asylum or Arkham, the Arkham games. It's kind of made like Arkham the games, like the fighting combats, like Arkham, like City, all of them. So Redler's a dick because you have to solve his puzzles again.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Right.

SPEAKER_08 54:28

So it's basically just Too Faced. And again, I like how they do Too Faced because when he falls, like so Josh, how they make Too Faced, so dude, how they make Too Faced is uh instead of acid, the mines in chapter two throw pie, throw a pie in his face. It's a scorching, burning pie. It's like it's like and then and then and then fuck and then he gets tased in the face by a cop, and then and then Jim goes like medic. And then like he's like crying on the on the gurney, and then bam, it's like Harvey, and then fucking another clown throws a pie, and they put both him and Jim dog and hits Harvey again in the face. What keeps happening in this? And then and then fuck before the ambulance drives off, the gurney falls out of the ambulance and his face hits the concrete and the fucking portal. Jesus Christ. I think it referred to absolutely. No, no, it was the funniest thing for Too Faced. Because they and then in chapter three, when they beat Two Face, Two Face falls off the thing and hits his face going on the way down.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

He's like, why is it always the face? Why?

SPEAKER_08 55:47

He doesn't say that, but it would have been funny if he actually said that one. Alright. But that's that's so far. That's how that's up that's how far I got. It's a good game. It's a good I mean, it's funny. I mean it's it's got Lego humor, so it's always fun. But it's funny. What's up?

SPEAKER_05 56:05

I'm just laughing. It's funny.

SPEAKER_08 56:07

Oh, okay. So well, since I haven't finished it, I guess I'll give it so far, like I I give it um 8.0. Okay. I give it an 8.0. Uh so far.

SPEAKER_03 56:24

For a Lego game.

SPEAKER_08 56:25

For a Lego game. I mean it's like it's like personally, my favorite, my favorite Batman game ever is Arkham Knight. That's that's that's a 10 out of 10. Arkham Knight. Arkham Knight. That's a 10 out of 10. Yeah, that's a 10. Um, I don't know what Batman game you would say is a 10 for you, but Arkham Knight for me is a 10.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

Um probably Arkham City.

SPEAKER_08 56:51

Okay. I mean, that one's pretty good. That one's close. It was good, yeah. So I mean, like, I so yeah, no, it's an eight. Like, it's fun. Like the first Batman, Lego Batman game was an eight for me, so it's like it's it scores the same.

SPEAKER_03 57:06

Yeah, the one the one I have, um three, uh, it's it's crap. It's yeah, it's kind of it's kind of boring and like long and like I gotta lost easily.

SPEAKER_08 57:18

Well, no, it's like it's crap. This one is more fun because like if you know the movies, then you know the you know the chapter.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 57:25

Like you know, you know how everything goes. It's pretty, it's pretty self, it's like an it's it's it's more like you're watching service. Well, yeah, fancy you're watching kind of the old movies and like being redone in a way. Re uh reimagined. Reimagine. Like one of my favorite scenes is the 1989 um parade, which they have in the game. The 1989 parade, where like Joker is dancing around on top of a keg that says 200 for a bat for Gotham Sea's 200-year anniversary. It's the it's the exact same thing from the movie. Right. Yeah, that's one of my favorite moments. Also, the museum scene from the movie where he destroys the museum. It's also in the game. Like they they re- It's fun how they recreate like movies. Like, I haven't even I haven't even got to one of my favorite openings for a chapter, which is the Batman the Animated series uh opening where they basically play Batman the Animated series. Oh, yeah. That whole opening adds the fucking Legos.

SPEAKER_03 58:26

I like that.

SPEAKER_08 58:27

But I haven't gotten to that part yet, and it looked really cool when I saw it. Because, like, it's like duh duh. It like ends with Batman being stoic and Robin falling off the fucking roof.

unknown 58:39

That's funny.

SPEAKER_08 58:40

Oops. But I thought, you know, I thought that's fun.

SPEAKER_03 58:44

Oh, well. Well, I'll give I guess I'll give it a play eventually. I mean eventually, yeah, you should buy it. Or or why might just watch the gameplay on YouTube or something?

SPEAKER_08 58:53

You can watch the gameplay. I mean, I mean, personally, if you're a huge Batman fan, I would recommend buying it.

SPEAKER_00 58:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 58:59

But you know, it's up to you. Alright, that's that's my thing. Uh, Mandalorian and Grovu. Wan eye?

SPEAKER_05 59:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 59:08

Um great. I have ten. Well, we'll just we're just giving our scores, so we're not, we're not talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 59:15

Yeah, I'll give it a seven. I give it a seven.

SPEAKER_08 59:17

Okay. That's right. So you gave it a seven. Alright? Yeah. Yeah? Alright. Yeah, it's a seven. I mean, I I enjoyed it, but there's there's there's some problems.

SPEAKER_05 59:34

Well, there was definitely some problems. I just thought it was otherwise it was an okay movie.

SPEAKER_08 59:38

Yeah, it was fine. I mean, like, it the problems aren't like like like it doesn't ruin the movie, it's just it's it's greens the score a little. What?

SPEAKER_05 59:49

The problems aren't like that ruins the movie, it sort of like lowers the score a little as to what the problems cause.

SPEAKER_03 59:55

Well, are there any uh characters he didn't care for?

SPEAKER_05 59:59

No, no, he doesn't uh I can't I can't say we can't tell him these we don't want to ruin it for uh strong arms.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:04

Alright, well I well I'm gonna go ahead and watch it because I kind of um I'm kind of give you up on Star Wars.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:11

I mean, I mean I don't I mean I wouldn't give up on Star Wars right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

Now, since David Fallone is back at the helm.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:20

I wouldn't give up on it just yet. Just like wait until he, you know, like watch. If you really want to get your faith back in the Star Wars, watch Darth Maul Shadow Lord, which is Dave, which is which is 100% Dave Faloni's like creation.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

Or that or any of the uh like tales. Tales of the Jedi, Tales of the Empire, Tales of the Underworld.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:44

That'll that'll that'll make your faith in Star Wars a little bit better because you're like, okay, good. They're in good hands now.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

How's um how's Andor? Is that is that a good Andor?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:59

Yeah, yeah. A lot of people said like it's the best new show in Star Wars. It's I it's a meh.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:07

It's really it's okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:09

It's really boring.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:11

Like you're literally it's everything leading up before World One.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:14

Yeah, it's ri it's really boring. Yeah. And someone like you who doesn't particularly like boring stuff, you you would hate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

I I wish I wish there was a little movie. I think players are the first like Republic. You know?

SPEAKER_08 1:01:31

The old Republic. The old Republic, yeah, dude. We've been crazy, dude. We've been wanting Star Wars fans have been wanting that for years.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

But Disney has retconed it entirely.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:39

Disney will j Disney sucks because it's like it's like, dude, listen to your fan base. They're done with the they're done with the Skywalker saga. We want something brand new, something that will like fucking, you know, you know, make us happy.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:53

I don't know, man. I just I I love Jedi and I don't say any Jedi anymore.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:00

Well, it's because they're fucking in this saga. That's all they're in. They're in this like they're in the Skywalker saga. If they would just go back and you know show us for the old Republic era, you know, that'd be fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:15

I wanna I wanna meet the first Jedi.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:20

Like oh, well, I mean the first Jedi the first don't have lightsabers. Oh well. So you you you you want to meet the you want to meet the Jedi Order at its highest.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

The the origins of the Jedi Order and the Sith. Yeah, the Sith Order, which would be interesting.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:37

All we get is l is like um how side characters feel care about and like I mean I don't I don't hate like see here's the thing, like the I think Disney wrote themselves into a corner with Grogu because he doesn't talk at all. He's cute, that's all that's all he is, he's cute. And like I'll I'll explain once he sees the movie my problem with it, because like they need to figure out what his age is because we're being told he's a baby and he ain't doing what babies do. Like he's he's far more and then 50. He's 50 years old, technically, but in the species that Yoda is, he's a baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:24

They they're actually babies for 50 years in uh Star Wars. Because remember, Yoda was 900 years old, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:32

Yeah, um, and we'll let you um in in um Cuban years probably like oh that that'd be 900 years old.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

Uh we're gonna see Yoda in his prime.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:42

Yeah, we we don't we we don't get the we don't get to see Yoda's in his prime. Also, fun fact Yoda being 900 years old is still too old, is still too young to have ever met a Sith. Yoda and the original Star Wars never met a Sith Lord, ever. Bullshit. Because the Sith, the Sith order that we follow in the original Star Wars, um the rule of two happened a thousand years before Yavin. Before Yoda, no, a thousand years before Yavin, which is like one thousand BBY, yeah. Bby. Yeah. Yoda is 900 years old, so he was born about probably maybe 50 years after the Sith Order was depleted, the tomb.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:35

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

What's Yavin again?

SPEAKER_08 1:04:39

Yavin is the um when they destroy the Death Star. Yeah, the first Death Star in episode four. That's uh a thousand years before the Battle of Yavin.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

I was just always curious how like how it goes to a new era. Like, how is that the uh transition from BC to A D?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:00

It's Star Wars, man. It's Star Wars. Don't ask a question that don't ask a question that we don't know the answer to.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

Then don't talk about the sequels at all because there are too many unanswered questions. I don't I won't talk about the sequel.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:14

I hate rain.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:16

Anyway, no, but anyway, no, yeah. So yeah, yeah. So Yavin is the planet that the Death Star was destroyed. So that was the battle of Yavin. That's so so the Sith Order became the rule of two a thousand years before that. Which means Yoda wasn't around to ever meet a Sith Lord, because here's the fun fact the the um dickhead, um penis, yeah, penis head, in the first in in episode one, the Phantom Menace, he says, Well, there hasn't been a Sith Lord for a thousand years. Which means Yoda was too young to ever have met a Sith Lord because he says I'm 900 years old. Yeah, when he were they hiding? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were hiding because. Years, yes, because the rule of two, the reason why the Sith Florida invented the rule of two is because they said that the original Sith Empire was too dangerous because when you have multiple students, you don't know who's your who's gonna target you as the master. Because how the Sith gained power is by killing the master.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:19

Once the students learn everything they can for the mastery, it's the student's job is to take out the master.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:24

Is to kill you. And when you have like when you're the master of five students, you don't know which motherfucker's gonna kill you. True. And take your spot. So the Sith, like they the they came up with this idea, or the guy who created the rule of two basically said, the Sith are too big, we need to downsize. And there can only be two. No more, no less.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:51

That was uh that was Darth Bain. Yeah, Darth Bane came up with that rule.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:56

Yeah, Darth Bain and then his apprentice, Darth um uh Malchus, I want to say. No, no, no, it's uh it's a female. It's a female. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:04

Oh, you mean the the red uh the red Twielik? No, she's blonde.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:10

She's a linear.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:11

No, no, she's uh no, this is a blonde. I don't remember her name.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:14

Well um looking up. Wait, who trained um Dooku again?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:18

Dooku, Darth, Darth Sidious. Well, Darth Sidious was his Sith Lord. Uh Yoda was his master. Yes. Yoda was the Dooku was uh Master Yoda's last apprentice.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:30

Hmm.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:30

And uh he turned evil on him. Well, because Yoda, like as you know, John, Yoda doesn't like to listen. He's uh his head's in the clay. In the force. In the force. Well, yeah, because Dooku, actually, in actuality, in canon, Dooku had a vision that um the Sith were still around. Like he knew the Sith were still around. Dard's not, thank you. No, uh, though Dooku always knew that the Sith were around. So he made it his mission to find the Sith. And then he was made fun of. He didn't wait. So he did bring it up with the council? Yes, he brought it up with the council countless times that the Sith order was still like he believed Count Dooku was one of the very few Jedi that believed the Sith were still out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:20

Of course, everybody called him crazy, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:22

Yeah, they they actually made fun of him for it. They called him crazy Dooku.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

Ooh, the big scary Sith?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:29

Well, like when he gets out, so yeah, see, that's why, like, so it wasn't like in the Tales of the Jedi, like when Dooku's fall, it's it's not just that.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:39

Well, cling on.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:40

Well, it's not just that all the like the Senate was like corrupt, the Jedi were corrupt. It that just added on to it. It was really Yoda not believing him. When you're like when you're master, you're a master, you're the apprentice, and he doesn't even believe you, and he thinks you're crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

Like But then, wasn't it Qui-Gon's death that really like sealed?

SPEAKER_08 1:09:06

That was the cat, yeah. That was the catalyst. That was that sealed it. That sealed its faith that he was gonna go.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:11

Yoda is Yoda is just an idiot. Senile, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:17

Well, you know, he's 900 years old, John. You know, most 90-year-olds are senile.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:24

Forgetful, I am. Pale time!

SPEAKER_08 1:09:30

I become too old, I am. Cancer you have.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:35

AIDS, I don't want. AIDS, I don't want.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:40

Yeah, no, so uh, yeah, no, so uh yeah, yeah, so Yoda never even met a Sith Lord. They believed the Sith had been destroyed for thousands of years.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:49

Yoda is like into the fourth, I think.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:54

Like well then Or the Sith were really good at hiding themselves.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

Well, yeah, I mean like the whole time Palpatine was there, he was the count the Jedi were right next to him. They sense a goddamn thing up until the very end.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:09

Well, that's because one of the one of the dark side power one of the one of the dark side powers that dark users can use is the ability to hide oneself from other force users. Um like um how how he describes the uh dark Osai being easy and like more uh what's it what's the depth and like more like well because like here's the thing about the Jedi, and I think the Jedi don't understand is that like the emotions that you're trying to get away from are natural emotions. Like they're all that everyone has them. It's very hard to do. Yoda believed that you had to be a robot in order to be a Jedi. In reality, um, the reason why so many of us Star Wars fans want to go back to the old Republic time is um in the old Republic time, Jedi's were actually allowed to get married. Yeah, Jedi's were allowed to get married, Jedi were allowed to be, you know, they were allowed to have their emotion. Jedi's were actually taught at a much older age. They weren't taught as babies, they were taught as adults. Wow. So, like when they say, like, oh, you he's too old to be a Jedi. Back in the day, you taught Jedi's at that age.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:33

Okay. Well, this is what we need to see. How the Jedi went from that to uh I think Yoda had a big play in that.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:42

Yes, that was the one of the public.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:46

Yeah, was he elected as the Yes, he was elected as the Grandmaster? Joseph. Well, he is the great well, he was at that time the oldest Jedi, you know, and and foreseen as the wisest the older.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:01

And that's what greatest separation later on between the Jedi Order and the Great Jedi Order.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:11

They're probably the most um they're the most attuned to the force, yes.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:17

They can use both the light and the dark. The great Jedi's are actually what the Jedi's used to be. So in actuality, you could say the great Jedi's are actually the original order. They're the oldest order. Yeah, they're the old order, whereas like the Jedi are the new order. It's kind of it's kind of like it's it's good, it's kind of like how people uh views um Christianity are like Well that is because Jedi, it's in in many cases Disney has made it a religion now. So it's like it's it's like it is their religion.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:48

Doc doc. Hello, you want to talk about our lord what was our savior, a force? I'll slap the door.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:55

Honestly, if if a guy knocked on my door wearing Jedi robes and he says, You want to talk about our Lord and Savior of the Force? I would actually I would have a I would have an hour-long conversation about Star Wars with him that would not even touch anything to do with the fucking he's like, so you want to hear about the force? And then I'd slam the door after the hour long religion, religious fuck? Uh hippies.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:22

Yeah, yeah. But chip up. Also, um, you know why I'll watch it on um when it comes out.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:32

This is watching it on Disney Plus. It's fun. Alright, next up. Yeah, I think that's it, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:36

I want to talk about uh Wolverine? Oh, right.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:39

The Wolverine trailer. Um so uh 10 out of 10. One of the best trailers.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:44

I can't wait to get it. What's that? What's 10 out of 10?

SPEAKER_08 1:13:49

You know, I'm in You're a huge die Arbor Wolverine fan. Yours. Uh also 10 out of 10. Dude, it's a brut it is brutal ass.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:58

Oh my god. It gave me nostalgia of of the ordins of the game. Which was better than the movie, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:10

That's true. Yeah, the game was actually pretty good.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:12

Yeah, but this game it's like yeah, but times well, it's got an M for a fucking reason. It's got a mature rating for a reason. Alright.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:28

Well the one thing I don't well, I mean also according to according to Kevin C um the fans are calling uh uh King Gray ugly. Ugly. And I I I saw her, I'm like I mean she's a kid. She's average.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:47

Oh okay. I'll say I'll say this like Insomniac has the ability to make seductive characters seductive, i.e. black cat, yeah, and non-seductive female characters, like they're just normal. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:10

Honestly, if honestly. To be fair, they didn't even pick the right X-Men. If you wanted to if you wanted like a hot, like sweet piece of ass. Well, I wasn't gonna say I have a frost, but I was gonna say rogue. Like look, if you want to look at a hot piece of ass, that's that's rogue.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:31

I I agree. Yeah, I do love rogue.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:34

Yeah, a lot of a lot of guys do.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:36

She's my favorite character.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:38

So they picked Gene Gray, who uh gets cheated on by Scott Summers, both mentally and well just mentally, I think. He cupped her. Or or she covers 10 or something. Oh, by the way, Josh, did you get my text about Adam 22? The cuck himself? Yeah, dude. Um anyway. Sorry, I just wondered up.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:00

Well, so so it comes out in uh September, and I'm probably gonna pre-order.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:07

Okay. Me too, me too. Alright, will Gene Gray be playable in the game? I that I I should I should make you know a stance or something, you know, like like I think she would be playable. Okay, because like historically, Insomniac like has had one of at least one other playable character besides the mate. What's that supply?

SPEAKER_08 1:16:32

Sometimes too, because Miles Morales is also playable. True, true, true. And Mary Jane, and Mary Jane, so sometimes too. Link on Marvel, so and to be fair, um, this is uh um um Bullverine. The the story is um um Task Force X. That's what he's a part of because it's the X-Men aren't in this universe.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:54

Team X, I think.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:55

Or whatever. It's well I think it's gonna be called Task Force X, then Team X.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:01

Well, in the trailer, but that guy's more part of um Trask and Austries and like uh so probably going to adapt uh with some X-Men stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:13

Yeah, that's some X-Men stuff. I also found out that it's not gonna be, or I've heard rumors it's not gonna be open world, which is fine because I think it fits more for Wolverine. That's like a more streamlined game.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:25

It's stages, you know?

SPEAKER_08 1:17:26

Yeah, it's stages. Yeah, I think it's more better that's streamlined because like Spider-Man, you could do open world because of New York. Wolverine's not really, he's more special forces, so it should be like Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:41

Okay, here's how I see it go. I'll say Trask, they're gonna be like the the villains that like that you fight throughout the game, and then there's gonna be one, like, and there's gonna be another that's the final boss.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:01

We will we know that the we know that the we know that the middle boss is going to be most likely um uh sabretooth. Yeah, sabertooth.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:10

We saw him, yeah. We saw Sabretooth, so he's most likely He looks okay, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:14

Yeah, honestly, I don't I don't even think they're gonna show it until like we're not gonna see who it is up until the last.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:22

I'm hoping it basically the Hulk.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:27

Uh but who would it be?

SPEAKER_08 1:18:29

The the the big bad final boss villain. Final boss villain. I personally think if you're gonna do a Wolverine game, it can only be one person. The man who created him. Stryker? Yeah, striker, yeah. It can only be striker.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:46

Well so I think striker because like I think striker is gonna be in charge of of the um like I think striker might be uh cahoots, which which contrast, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:05

Yeah, I think he's gonna be in cahoots with them. Uh which makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:10

No, it makes sense. Well, yeah, yeah, because they turn up on means, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:19:14

Yeah, they experiment. Yeah, in Canada, they experiment on mutants, mutants, which also means that like the final boss, quote unquote, it would wouldn't be striker, it'd be the mutant that he's going to go up against you. What if it's a clone account? That would make that that would make that could be a slogan movie. It could be fun. It could also be um The Sun, maybe. It could also be what's that? The one with the claws?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

Lady Death Strike?

SPEAKER_08 1:19:44

It could also be her.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:46

Uh I was gonna say, like, I don't think Wolf Arene doesn't really have like a grand scale villain, you know, like stock arc, venom, and green got.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:59

Yeah, it's not that.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:00

Well, well while still I'm hoping that like like any I think the whole pipe here will like as like a cameo or something. I don't think it'll be a cameo deadpool's in it.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:11

We saw like a glimpse of what it looked like Deadpool.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:14

I and I hope it's Nolan North.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:17

Yeah, he's a good Deadpool.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:19

I mean, I was hoping it would be Steve Blum voicing Wolverine, but we didn't get that either. Alright. Perhaps he's retiring.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:27

Alright, well, since it's been a fun uh since it's been a fun thing, I think what we're gonna do is we're going to do uh story time.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:37

Okay, alrighty.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:39

Well, I mean we don't really know much about Wolverine. Okay, yeah. So far, yeah. So far, so but yeah, let's do story time.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:47

Alright. Alright. Y'all gonna want to hold on to your butts for this one.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:53

Oh boy, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:54

It's a goddamn roller coaster. Alright. Alright. Alright, this one comes from R slash two hot takes.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:03

Alright. And a prompt is. Alright. Intro is Did he cheat or did I catch an STD from a koala?

SPEAKER_06 1:21:18

Okay, this is a very interesting choice.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:20

Please read. Alright.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:22

What the fuck do you just say?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:25

Alright. My F-27 husband, F-28, and I have been together for five years after being friends for most of my teenage years.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:37

Wait a minute. Does the story take place in Australia?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:42

Uh we we have two sons, and this takes place in March of 2020 when I was three months pregnant with my second child. I had gone to my 13 weeks my 13-week scan follow-up after the ultrasound alerted that something wasn't right. I fully expected the worst, but my GP just said they could see something on the scans with my fallopian tubes. Nothing was wrong with the baby, and wanted to get blood and swaps done. When the results came back, my GP called me to come in urgently. That's when she showed me what my tests had returned positive. My tests had returned positive for chlamydia. I was shocked. And my GP and I knew I had been with my husband for years. She was my doctor all the way back when my first one was born. She knew all our history. She straight up asked me if our relationship was monogamous, and of course I said yes. She gave she gave me the rundown of treatments and scripts telling me that my husband would need to come back and get tested as well to confirm. Before he too would likely need treatment. All with a look of pity. She was thinking it. I was thinking it. With a koala. Hang on.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:11

Hang on. We're not.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:13

We're not we're not there yet.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:14

I'm just going based off the title.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:16

I was fear. I was furious and heartbroken. But I go home and take a long hot shower, scrubbing myself clean, and I sit down at our family photo. Hung on the wall, was mocking me. And I call him. He is at work and I'm crying on the phone, explaining that been at the doctor's and tested positive for chlamydia. And how could he do this? How could you do this? You bastard at all the works. I hang up and he is calling me over and over again, but I'm trying to calm down as I have to collect our son from daycare and he's still and still be put together as a mother somehow. I ignore his calls and uh he comes into the house, sets his stuff down, loudly throws his keys at the wall. He sees I've got our son, so he just walks into the bedroom and slams the door, and I hear the shower run. I'm confused even more than her because I don't know what I was expecting, but this wasn't it. I finished feeding our son and his bed routine, settle him in to sleep. About 8 p.m. I'm now exhausted, but I go into the room and talk to my husband. He is sitting on the bed holding his head in his hands, crying. I walk over to him and say that I don't know how you you could do this to me, to our family, but you've given me an STD and you need to get tested and take this medication. He looks he looks me in the eyes, raw red, cry yelling that I am a sick, twisted person for cheating on him, getting an STD, and blaming him for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:06

What the Koala?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:14

Alright, part of Part two. Part two.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:18

Part two?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:21

Two out of three.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:22

My so my husband is go on, let me so my husband is physib is upset and visibly shaking.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:32

I cannot fathom what he's saying. He thinks I'm the one who's been unfaithful, and I'm just furious. I've never cheated. I hate cheating. It's a disgusting act with someone you love. But he is adamant that he has also never strayed. Our argument ends with us waking our son, so I go to settle him back down. When I come out, he had a pack bag and was leaving. He said he was going to stay with his parents for a bit. He left. I cried all night. The next few weeks were hell. He tested positive, obviously. Both of us accusing each other. It got to the point where he asked if where I asked if he wanted to separate because I didn't know how this could be resolved since neither of us would own up. He said he would tell me the answer if the pregnancy I was carrying was truly his after I got a paternity test. We went and got the test, and of course it was his. We went to therapy and it never really solved anything. He eventually moved back in. All of our history combined with knowing that at the end of the day, I loved this man. I didn't want a broken family. It was a big part of why I eventually decided to just accept that he cheated and wouldn't own up to it and move on with life. Sure, a little less sunshine and joy, but I I loved him, and a part of me thought him admitting it would just be worse. I'd want to know names, faces, details, and as more time went by, I became okay with leaving it.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:16

So she wanted to know names, face, details, what furry little great bastard turned him on.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:24

Two feet like you're told.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:27

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:28

Five feet.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:31

So here it is. Two and a half years later now, Adam is scrolling through TikTok when he's on a reel with Robert Irwin. Comes on. He's talking about how his biggest threat, how the biggest threat to koala population is chlamydia. I swear, if a light bulb appeared in his head, it would have shown out of his ears. Because I saw him start to piece things together.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:57

I bet find koala.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:59

He now has. Come to the conclusion that he thinks he did give me chlamydia, but not through cheating. Alright, now we go into part three.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:10

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:12

So Myth mid to me. 2019. There was huge bushfires in QLD in September. Adam and I intended the Bohemian Breakfast Festival, and along our drive into camp, we came across so many koalas that have been displaced. The event was nearly cancelled due to fires burning near the site weeks prior. So these koalas were just by the side of the road. Exhaust one at one point we pulled over and Adam grabbed some water for these poor guys. One little fellow was so thirsty and exhausted. Oh bad. He was just pulled this. Adam.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:29

You're sad?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:30

Alright. And yes, Adam picked this koala up and gave him a cuddle. And yes, the koala proceeded to pee all over his shirt and arm. We laughed it off and moved into the middle of the bush. There are only showers that you pay for. We're not planning to use a shower, huh? We're not planning to use it to shower until the last day. He had taken off his shirt and washed his hands with bottled water. We arrived to set up camps, then went to the party and forgot about the koala completely. Over those days, we had sex a lot. I'm sorry for that.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:12

What's that? No, the koala. No, no, the koala I'm thinking about it. The koala guy's revenge. It's like it eyeballed it, and it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:21

You peeping on them?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:23

Yeah, he's like, he's like, he's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:26

Yeah. You're looking at me, aren't you? You're thinking me, yeah. You smell the golden shout.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:43

Your husband's a nasty one. He likes to be peed on by koalas.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:48

I know. I was there.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:50

Alright, go on.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:51

Sorry, I'm going to hell for this.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:53

So we go down a rabbit hole of research and find out that yes, you can catch chlamydia from koalas.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:59

Uh Adam. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:02

Huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:03

Koala's urine?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:04

Yeah. Yeah, okay. So now we have an explanation, and my husband is all for it. He says. Wait. He says it all makes sense, and I can see how he has changed since then. He's more relaxed with me, more trusting, but part of me thought it was for him being unfaithful has stuck. Our relationship has still been okay since the these last few years, but I'll admit it's been strain. Our sex life dwindled a lot. We both became almost toxic with each other in terms of who the other was talking about, no texting, always feeling on edge when the other was out alone, etc. He would randomly come out with, You can tell me the truth and I'll still love ya. So many times that would spark an argument, etc. And our friends knew the whole story, have ditched us long ago, thinking that one of us was a cheater and the other was stupid for staying. We learned to keep this part of our lives private.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:15

Yeah, yeah, real private. Nobody wants to be nobody about quality. Nobody wants to be known as the koala diddlers.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:26

Or no koala the koala cuddlers. Ohdlers. Alright. Two gays. I see you down. Alright.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:35

There's one last update. Oh god. The answer. He cheated.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:40

What the koala?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:45

I'm sorry!

SPEAKER_08 1:32:48

And just like no, it's just like no, it's just like the koala's like no, it's and then the song kicks off.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:02

I know, I don't know. Alright, this is the one the quality. He goes, Yo, the being in my life. Yo, Vicky is food.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:22

I need that. Okay. Please.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:27

Alright. So you read my so you read my post, and most of you thought my husband didn't cheat and gave me a lot of advice to think through. I saw my husband down last evening and spoke about how I'm feeling. We now we know the truth. I talked about how how much pain I've been through with him accusing me, and vice versa. And I apologized for my part in things. Told him how much I loved him and how happy I was to finally put this to rest. And we both now there's nothing between us. And then he starts fidgeting and getting upset, and he tells me that he cheated.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:16

With koala?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:18

Okay. I can't. I can't.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:23

Like, I can't. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:25

I just can't. I'll talk about that koala the whole stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:32

Is it over yet?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:33

Yep, I know he still didn't give me the STD. He says, in months after finding out, yes, our relationship was in a really bad place when he wasn't living at home. At that time, he went out, had a one-night stand with a girl in a pub in a town over. He explained that he generally believes I cheated, and after a few drinks, he decided he was going to end things with me. So he went ahead sleeping with this girl. It was his way of tit for tat. Plus, he was convinced our baby that our baby wasn't his.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:14

Wait, wasn't him from everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:19

Yeah, it's a shitshow all around. You know what, honey, I would say I'm like you want to fuck the there's a story. I would say at this point, you have two options. If you divorce this man, or don't divorce him. If you're truly love him, you will forgive him. If you don't truly love him, don't forgive him.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:36

Here's about fight. Well don't don't marry a guy who fought flaws.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:43

Yeah, I wouldn't hear flaws. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:47

Yeah, they're cute, evidently.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:50

Yeah, they are. Alright. Here's the bad news. Oh my god. Technically. No, I don't know. I'm done with the story. This is just the top comment.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:02

It says it is possible to for koala as a trans to transmit chlamydia to humans, but not the STD.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:15

Yeah, I so he cheated. So he cheated a long time ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:18

I did the house. Okay, so isn't it wrong?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:21

So they tested for Chlamydia. The wife at Chlamydia accused the husband of cheating. The husband accused the wife of cheating. So he cheats to get back at her, but then they find out it it was the koala the whole time.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:39

No, here's my favorite phrase there. Like the wife, the wife accused the husband. The husband accuses the wife. And yet there's a koala out there just thinking, longing, remembering that manny peed on.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:54

And really, that's the true and really and that's the true heroine of the story.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:04

I can even imagine the koala talking to the other koalas and saying, hey guys, I think I I think I think I gave that guy comedy. I feel like I ruined a marriage. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:22

All I can think of is that koala just being put down after peeing on him, and then the song Baby Come Back!

SPEAKER_01 1:37:30

Oh well, I mean the perfect end to this story. No, the perfect end to the story would be if they went back there and took the koala home.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:43

Yeah, threesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:44

So they always have a reminder.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:47

Breathum.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:51

Oh yeah, sure, buddy.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:57

I can only think about plus the way that I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:02

The way that title the way that title read just made it so much funnier.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:08

So um koala, it's just pee, that's all, right? Yeah, it was it. It was good. I mean, that's I mean, well, no.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:17

To be fair, I think he has to inje first off, I think he has to ingest it somehow.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:21

And considering like it has to be like if you have an open wound and the it could be uh skin on skin content.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:29

Or smell it or no, and that because he get he did get peed on, and some of it could have accidentally went into his mouth. Or die.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:38

Or anything, or force actually.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:41

Yeah, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't it doesn't have to be a lot to that story. That's that story tops the cable.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:49

It does top the cable. You're looking for a lot of use case.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:54

First thing is the qual, then you think it's the man, then anything is the qua, no it was the man.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:59

No, and then the quality and yet the qual is just sitting there.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:05

Yeah, smoking cigar.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:07

No, no, he's just sitting there eating the thing staring at people.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:12

Alright.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:13

You wanna you wanna end this off? Yeah, we're good. And that's is and this has been another strong story of the Cannonball Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:22

I hope you like this story.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:24

So Captain C signing off.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:28

Hold on to your koalas.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:29

Hold on to your koalas, yeah. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:33

Alright. Alright, bye.