Phillip Abraham Part 1: Getting In How You Can

Dive into Part 1 of our conversation with stand up comedian Phillip Abraham, also known as The Rising Social Media Sensation, where we talk about our favorite movies, more recent and upcoming movies, actors, and humor.

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Welcome To The Fishbowl

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Attention all you fishes in the team.

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Welcome to the fishbowl.

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What's up all my fishes in the sea? Thanks for tuning into the fishbowl and for being a subscriber. Today's guest is stand-up comedian Philip Abraham, aka the rising social media sensation, host of late night with Phil. Tune into our conversation and check it out. Stand-up comedian Philip Abraham on the fishbowl. Welcome. What's going on, Sam? Good to be here. Great to have you. Thank you for taking the time to dive in and swim in the fishbowl with me.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Yeah, man. Thank you for having me. It's great to see you. It's December or January now, and it's 80 degrees here in Texas.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

And I envy you so much.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

We kind of want it to be cold. We had a fire going last night, and you know, it's like 75 degrees. We're just pretending to be cold.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Yeah.

Austin Culture And Escaping Winter

SPEAKER_00 1:09

You know, I I have you're you're you're out in Austin, right? Yeah, yeah, Austin, Texas. Yeah. I I've I I have been there once and I I think it's funny how they say Austin is weird. Yeah. Not not so weird anymore. No, no. In fact, it it's it's my kind of weirdness, you know. Uh it's it's you know, the music scene seems everything that I've followed with uh bands that I've I've interviewed for that have come out of there, or that you know, the Texas area, just the entertainment-wise, film-wise. You guys have that big film festival, and I believe it's called Levitation. Um, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Levitation. They got another horror one. What is that called? I can't remember. There's like a really good horror film festival. I can't remember the name of it, but the big ones, you know, they're south by the way. Rosen Film Festival, AFF, yeah. Yeah, those are pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

I have often thought about moving down there as an as an option because uh, I mean, Pittsburgh's great and all, but uh, I hate this fucking weather. How much time is it cold over there? So, like, whether you people want to say global warming is real or not, you people there has definitely been a shift weather-wise, I want to say definitely from like the 2000s up to now, Pittsburgh weather-wise, because like I I was born in Silver Spring, Maryland, but like I spent a my first year of my life there and moved to Pittsburgh a year old, and I've been here ever since. And I remember as a kid in the 90s, early 90s, my dad taking me and my sister over to one of the downtown bridges because Pittsburgh is like I think the city with like the most bridges or something, or one of the most bridges. I forgot the bad trivia Pittsburgh guy, but and I just know we have a shit ton of bridges. I bet you they've used that to market the city before.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Come on down, we got a lot of bridges here.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Oh, yeah, oh yeah. I believe uh Tom Cruise utilized that when he filmed the Jack Reacher here.

Tom Cruise And Franchise Fatigue

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

Yeah. Tom Cruise, he's got that new digger movie out. People are really clowning on this movie. It hasn't even come out as a trailer. Have you seen it? I I actually haven't. It's just him with a shovel dancing in cowboy boots and shorts and a shovel dancing around. That's the entire trailer. But it's Inyaritu. You know that director? Which one is it? Inyaritu, the Spanish director. He did a bunch of like huge movies, really big movies already. Did he do Interstellar? No, that's is it Interstellar? Did he do that one? No, that was no one. Oh, what's that other one? There was another space with me. I think he did. Oh, is that the one gravity or something? Nothing like that. I think he did that one. I was sure. Alejandro Gonzalez.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yeah, I think it was Gravity.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

The Revenant? Oh, he did Birdman.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Yeah, so people are clowning on the trailer because it's just Tom Coos in boots and shorts. And the entire branding of the movie is you know, Digger, a witch. A little a little shady there sometimes. But he's got he's got like a tagline on the the most ridiculous comedy or something. So he's trying to go full-on Birdman, take it to more ridiculous, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Well, I mean, I did hear that supposedly Ben Stiller is trying to resurrect his Les Grossman character for like a solo movie from Tropic Thunder.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

You think that's this one or something separate?

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Uh separate, separate, I mean. But I was just saying, like, he might be he might be at that age now because I did see the new the the last supposed mission, the final reckoning of Mission Impossible, and you know, it it like it it wasn't it wasn't like part one, you could tell he was younger and still had like a more ability to oh really do his own stunts and stuff, and then the the by the time they filmed part two and and also like the the the first recording, whatever it's called, that could stand alone on its own, like really, I mean they could have just wrapped it up as one movie, but like part two, it just feels like I don't know, it they're trying to comment on too much on what's going on. Why are they why are they doing part twos in a series already? Well, also it's like the like two that they did before these two, like that actually they should have just left it, you know, after they wrapped up, like you know, with the they had like the same bad guy as like in in the for in two movies, which was like his own like part one, part two without being a part one, part two, and then it's like I guess they had the you know it's exhausting, yeah, yeah. It's like and and also like like it makes people think that like uh I don't know if this is Tom Cruise's intention or anything, but uh I don't know, like it's like some of the stunts he's doing. I mean, it's it's some crazy shit. You know, I mean, and he you know, he may love it and be able to, you know, do that as with the lifestyle that he lives, but it's it's just you can clearly tell in part two that they use camera tricks because uh, you know, like they they like cut away while you hear like you know, him fighting a bunch of people, you know, and then they then they cut back, you know, and then all the people they're all laid out, yeah. Right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

That's what they did a little bit in Jack Reacher, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:44

He did a little bit of that, yeah, a little bit of that.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

But I mean, he I'm still a fan of the first one, like Brian Nakama, like that style where it's not an action director doing it, it makes it such a more interesting film. Like there's more of a storyline, a plot that's cohesive. Instead of like when they started getting into the other Mission Impossible, it turns into like a Marvel movie where it's like we'll make up shit, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 8:17

They made it like uh James Bond. That's that's pretty much what they did.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

It's and even James Bond is more kind of grounded in reality, more than Mission Impossible, but right.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Well, at least the the Daniel Craig ones, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Uh those are good ones.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Yeah, that I think those are really like the only, I don't know, like I I could rewash the Daniel Craig Craig ones, like all the other ones, like well, and also don't get me wrong, like Connery is and always will be the best James Bond, just like Michael Keaton will always be the best Batman, just because he was the first, you know, to do it. Same thing with Schwarzenegger as Conan, and we saw uh I thought you were gonna say Mr.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Freeze.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Mr. Freeze, also, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

He was the first one.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Exactly. And and and arguably he's he's the only reason that movie's watchable.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Yeah, anytime it's like the first one, it's like they were trying things, it was more creative, less like I guess studios were less interested in getting too crazy with them, like like putting their finger on everything. Because they were trying something, right? And people are like, Yeah, I don't know. Right, you know, I don't I don't want to put my hands on this exactly, and then once they get the second one, it's like, okay, the studio's gonna decide everything, we're gonna make it very polished and screen testing. Right, right.

Batman Returns And Birdman Craft

SPEAKER_00 9:58

I mean, I mean, Batman Returns is my favorite uh out of the original, like, you know, Batman, the four movies they did, although I do consider Tim Burton's first two, like their own movies, and then Joel Schumacher's are like his his take, you know, on movies. But I I just like recently found out through watching some crazy you know informational thing on on Facebook, some reel or something, explained that uh end of uh Batman Returns, where it's supposed to be Michelle Pfeiffer back as Catwoman, apparently it was like filmed after the movie had already wrapped, like, and they just filmed it like two weeks prior to its release. Uh and then that isn't even Michelle Pfeiffer, it's like her stun double or something, and uh just in the outfit, and they added that at like the very end because they were you know anticipating, and I guess that's actually circling back to Birdman, you know, with probably a lot of you know subtext, you know.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Yeah, I did like Birdman, I thought it was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

I liked Birdman, I did. And I I I think Michael Keaton got gypped for the Oscar for that.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Oh yeah, for sure. And I think uh yeah, there was something to that movie that I feel like you know a lot of people are trying to copy after. Maybe like maybe like the studio or something like this, where they're trying to bring back that style, which is older than the movie itself, right? Let's go back in the 70s, but like bringing it out with a fresh, new kind of patina to it. I thought that was nice.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Yeah, yeah. And uh I liked I liked how like it wasn't like a straight like drama or anything. There was like it was like, is this in his head? Is he like going nuts? You know, is he having like a nervous breakdown sort of thing, you know, or is is this all just like part of like what he actually believes is going on, sort of thing? And it was all kind of like you know, up for a subjective take, you know. Yeah, you know, but I I was happy with that movie. Uh, you know, I I did I did like seeing Michael Keaton come back as Batman for the Flash, even though that was not the greatest movie. You know, I I would rather see him come back as uh old Bruce Wayne for a uh Batman Beyond movie.

Predator And Alien Franchise Choices

SPEAKER_02 12:41

Oh, that'd be good. They're doing some really good stuff with the Predator franchise, that last prey movie, and then this recent one, Batlands, I think it's called.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Badlands I haven't watched yet, and I'm I'm I'm very hesitant uh about uh I'm interested.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

I I've never seen it told through the eyes of the predators, which I think is pretty cool. Concept we kind of got into that with the second one with Danny Glover at the end. Right, right. Getting getting more of their side, but yeah, I'm I'm interested.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

I want to see it. I I mean, like I I I I like the concept, it's just I don't I don't like some of the stuff with how like one, I don't like CG Predator, you know that that's a major complaint. Number two, the movie would probably be watched, it's probably watchable, but I I don't I don't like Elle. What's her name? L Fanning. That was that Dakota Fanning's younger sister. Uh I I don't think she's believable. She's she's as an android. She's she's too she's too good looking, you know, you know, to pull she's she's not she's not Lance Hendrickson, and she's not uh and she's not Ian, what was his name? Ash from from Alien. And he's not a Michael Fassbender, even though I hated those Prometheus movies. Like it and the thing about the Prometheus movies is like, listen, the first one could have been an excellent film if it just had nothing to do with Alien. And yeah, and you looked at it as that, and and I almost could like can go back and re-watch it, you know, without like you know, as like thinking of like that. But then they did Alien Covenant, and that movie fucking sucked balls.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

Um yeah, it was terrible.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

And it and it made me really, really hate that character, David, you know, who I'm like, if I have to see one more goddamn film with Fastbender as this fucking android when it's like those movies had nothing to do, like the androids were in there, but like it's it wasn't about AI, you know, and then like they're they're taking like what's you know relevant today with AI and and everything, and like trying to insert that, you know, subcontext or you know, storylines into those movies where it's like that's not what they were about, you know, like the the androids were like background, and and I also always thought that like like with aliens, the second one, how they introduced the concept that like the aliens were like essentially insects, you know, like it and like parasite parasitical insects, essentially. And that concept and storyline versus where they went with Prometheus, like you limit, you limit yourself so much as you know, from like a just because this is like my screenwriting background, schooling, you know, perspective, where like you know, I was I you know I always like watch a movie now and I'm like, okay, these are the seven plot points where you know, you know, beginning, middle, end, you know, wraparound sort of thing. Yeah, I just go into a movie like okay, you know, here we go, you know, plot point kind of thing lines, but those movies, like it just it the concept of like insect, you know, aliens, like that you know, could have come from how many countless worlds until you got to like the actual originating world. Like, I mean, you you know, it it just is like you could do so much with it, and they totally drop the ball, I guess what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Yeah, no, for sure. Prometheus, though, I can watch it over and over just because of the set design and everything.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

The the the vibe is right, but yeah, the plot is sweet.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

I mean, there there are cool stuff in there, and I think what they've been playing on like HBO Max or something, I think it's it's on there, but I mean I I've re I've rewatched it. It's covenant that I think I have the big oh it's that's a problem.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

It's a big problem. Yeah, the the show on FX was pretty good. I have not watched that yet. Yeah, really good. I was very surprised they they keep the level of quality like up there on all aspects, except for the main actor, which is she is from Austin, she's the daughter of the guy from Friday Night Lights. You know what I'm talking about the post? Yeah, and so she's got a Napo baby situation, and she's like in the biggest part, you know, uh in this whole series, and she's not really equipped to carry in on the series, but you know, there's a lot of other good actors in there. What's his name? J from Justified, he's uh Timothy Timothy Oliphant.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Yeah, Oliphant's in there. Yeah, yeah. And I think he plays at Android, doesn't he? If I remember from like the publicity, yeah. But that crazy uh what is it, white or silver like hair or something? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's good, he's good. Yeah, I I I I I actually interviewed a guy uh by the name of Mark Ralston, who was uh in Aliens. Um he played uh like you know the the two like badass soldiers, like the big, the big like you know, machine guns, yes, the male, the male guy and the Hispanic one. I he's the the male one who dies way too early in in the movie. Um you know, I I always thought that, and he even said in the interview, like oh everybody tells me that my character went way too early. He he's the one who like dies, and when they initially like you know go into the nest, uh and they all kind of get ambushed. You know, he's like the there's like him and a woman, her name is Vasquez. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she, you know, he gets hit with the acid because she fires the gun and you know blows up one of the aliens, and like you know, the blood gets on him, and then he torches Vasquez is a pretty good character. That's a great character, yeah. And and oddly enough, that actress was in going back to 80s horror, was in a one of the best vampire films. Actually, it was her, it was like almost the all the characters that died except for Bishop vampire movie. Have you heard of it? Uh it's called uh Near Dark. So it's it's Bill Paxton, Lance Hendrickson, and the the actress who played Vasquez, they play vampires. Actually, in Texas, the movie takes place near dark. I haven't seen it. It's it's it and it's directed. It's I think it might either be it's either her directorial debut or one of one of her first films, Katherine Bigelow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, who did Point Break and was, I think, married to James Cameron at some point. She she's like the the the first woman to basically have like action film like box office success. Because it had been like a male, pretty much all, I think all like male-dominated, you know, as far as directors went for action films, and she like redefined you know cinema for that.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

Dude, I have not seen seen it. I want to see it near dark. Um I do love Strange Days. That was another one of her.

Carpenter Love And Video Store Nostalgia

Kill Tony Night From Backstage

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Yeah, yeah. And James Cameron wrote that. Yeah. Yeah. You get all the info, man. I told you. I told you right from the beginning. That's awesome. Because I'll I'll geek out on film stuff too. Yeah, I mean, uh my my my sister actually got her name Jessica from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. That's that's going back as far as I've I've been doing this, and my I always tell this because my first R-rated movie was Total Recall at age five. Yeah, that's a great movie, man. Yeah, yeah. I have like a poster, like a twenty four by like thirty six or four, whatever it is, put like a big poster of uh Schwarzenegger holding. like the head after he you know takes it off with like the two weeks you know you know scene um that I got custom from like Amazon and I have like from like Predator uh the first one uh when the predator goes into his battle stance right after he takes off the mask uh to fight for Schwarzenegger and it's like there's that just full body shot of like the arms open you know just like the battle stance I have that and I was able to get that autograph by uh Ventura. Nice okay very cool yeah I I I go to like all the Comic Con stuff I've like I cover a couple of the horror conventions for my show there's one coming up technically end of end of February beginning of March this this year I'll be covering again called uh horror realm and I for all my listeners I just recently as of last weekend finished posting all the interviews for this past year's horror realm and those are all up the checkout and this weekend premiered my coverage of another local convention here called the Living Dead weekend which is like a whole tribute to uh George Ramiro and all the zombie movies and everything uh you know it's like a big thing here in Pittsburgh you know we have like the Monroe Mall which unfortunately just got bought by Walmart of all freaking people and I'm pretty sure it's all in question of like if they're gonna keep the mall the same because they definitely don't have any interest in like keeping as a landmark from where they filmed Dawn of the Dead uh original you know about Tom Savini is our our look one of our local celebrities Tom Atkins is another he was in Lethal Weapon and Knight of the creeps a couple carpenter movies yes yes man i like all of carpenter stuff so good yes carpenter snake pliskin is like my probably one of my top favorite film characters ever I just watched the escape from la like a couple days ago that that was my that was my first carpenter movie in theaters oh really yeah yeah I I I remember telling my dad dad there's this movie coming out it's called it's John Carpenter's directing it's called Escape from LA he's like no no no you mean escape from New York and and I'm like no no it's called Escape from LA and he's like well are you sure and I'm like yes and he's like well that must be a sequel or something because then there's the first one was called Escape from New York and I'm like wait a minute there's the first one you know because I'm like you know a little better even better so it was it was like constant trips to blockbuster the the old days that none of these Gen Z kids know about going into a video store and and you know having like spending at least an hour inside the video store because you know you would you know be not only looking through all the sections you know it's like what do I want to watch you know uh is it gonna be horror is it gonna be action is it gonna be drama comedy and then you know all the guys that felt guilty going back into the adult porn section you know uh you know these these kids today they just go on their phones and it's right there you know yeah well uh depending on what stage you're in right yeah it was kind of cool there was always like at least a couple of uh indie kind of right rental places too we had a big one here that closed down love videos you ever heard of that one no no yeah it's it was huge it's like a massive collection and I think they closed it or sold it that's unfortunate yeah so it's like a dying thing like I I think there's one like major store I forget where it is in the US but it's like it it's like I think the last if if not the last one of the last places that solely sells VHS so my neighborhood's Mexican I haven't been in there but there's a video store down the street and I'm guessing they're they're selling or renting videos wow yeah you go you gotta check that out you gotta like verify we'll let you know is this a thing is this still a thing I'm pretty sure it it is is probably like Mexican movies that are like harder to get like streaming stuff maybe right right that's that's my guess but I'll I'm gonna find out I'm gonna get to the bottom of it perfect late night with with Phil uh coverage topic right right right there you know in local news exactly exactly videos are being sold and rented in in little mexico in the yeah hey I I think I just I just got your uh your next segment right there yeah yeah it's working we're working we're always working on it you know definitely definitely I I believe I I I get it you know I I it's like I I I watch Kill Tony and obviously I have questions for you about that yeah like but I mean I I was I I had tickets to see it here in Pittsburgh a couple like this past October and I got sick and and and I I couldn't go I was so friggin' pissed if if they ever come back I am making sure I get my ass somehow into that that venue to to see that because I mean you know I it makes it seem like anybody can do stand-up comedy but like at the same time you know that's totally unrealistic and just not true you know but like some people like you know seeing people like Cam Patterson like he's he's just naturally funny you know like some people I feel just you know joke around and like I mean my all my kind of humor I don't know I like I always joke that like Jim Carrey's the cable guy as his best performance because I always related to that movie. Yeah that's a great great you know I just in his character because like uh my minus the stalker part you know keep just just throwing that out there minus the stalker part but I mean he had some he had problems he had problems but he was a good person right right right you know he was a little he was fucked up but like he he didn't actually you know do anything uh violent violent you know but you know I I his his the way he jokes around you know with like movie references you know and stuff like that pop culture that that's kind of how I joke around and you know movie references and stuff you know so that's totally different than doing stand up comedy you know so I was wondering like what was like your overall experience what was that like the whole like you showed up you know they pulled your name like just the whole like you know the night you know was there like any crazy party or anything like going on or you know what was the big big overall like you know experience in general I guess um you know just going there like I'd been there many times before and not thinking you know anything's gonna happen of it and I was with give me no break pool table waiting pastime and they called my name and I was like oh fuck yeah and I was wearing a hat too and I was like I share pan and I didn't shave my head again on the hat now so yeah and then you know Colt McNeely yeah yeah yeah he's he's done the show already but he took me outside and it was raining crazy somebody like me uh from inside somebody's like you're gonna need this uh you know we're walking over there and it's pouring it's crazy rain so both of our shoes mine and coal were completely flooded wet so we're just squishing around and shit and get over there and you're at the bottom of the farewell and hide everybody and go up the farewell.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

There was a guy up there he was I guess Tony had played poker with him or something. Yeah yeah that guy's going up there murdering it just having a good time it's not much fun doing pretty good and he knows him and they're having a great time they're friends but yeah it went up there did the thing and actually I took off I went straight home at the end of that I did not no I did not stay and party or anything like that.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Okay okay but I I I have to say your India Pakistan joke is I I I you know I I I'm I I I'm Jewish and I'm Zionist Jewish I don't give a shit come come after me you fuckers you know I'm ready you know so I especially chuckled very like dark humor you know uh at that one you know because of like yeah that needs to happen yeah well I'm glad you liked it like that that's that's a good you know current events you know I mean it ironically but you're taking it literally and I love that I mean uh obviously you know I uh you know uh I know it's meant to be ironic but like yeah yeah yeah but I I I just laugh at it because I'm like yeah that actually yeah that yeah you know speak speak preach yeah yeah yeah no I hear you awesome yeah but it it was a bit it was a bit slow going on that appearance to you know get get going there you know yeah yeah yeah well it was it was cool that like the crowd was like like vibing with like they were so supportive like they were just like booting and hollering and stuff it was like all right that's nice yeah because uh you know if they're gonna like it or not yeah it was it was it was it was pretty cool I mean I I I was definitely chuckling not not just that that then the Pakistan show but uh you know that that one I think was probably my favorite unexpected you know little little throw in there that uh I was like I was like all right now now now we're we're cooking with fire you know yeah yeah you know but I I mean uh I you know I I'm really into like just edgy you know racy humor it's it's just is all it's all in the intent and how it's executed you know yeah I I think that that is what I think most often gets taken out of context especially in in the the comedy game yeah the uh I I really like one-liners yeah and so I started with one-liners and I still do one liners but you know with a bunch of other stuff now but the one-liners are amazing I love doing them it's the greatest thing to come up with a good one you know yeah they're just fun because it's so little I I just love the economy of words being able to use the least possible amount of words to get somewhere is really exciting. Yeah the by the way I obviously talk I uh I elaborate a lot so and I let it learn path I don't mean that in conversation just in jokes well right right right well I'm just I'm I'm just saying like I I could take a note from learning to instead of going as I say to my dad who who I learned uh pretty much everything from because he's like you know if if I had to say a family member hero it would be him he's he's the guy that got me into everything that I'm into now full supporter of what I'm doing with my show and and constantly giving me ideas and background and any type of support that he can and he's a great dad because I you know talked to him about this a couple years ago and I was like you know I have a serious question to ask you you know you were like the stay at home dad when I was growing up and like you let me like watch like all these like R-rated movies and like I mean total recall was just the start you know and like you actually made it like an agenda to like teach me you know film cinema history and everything like I mean he was like prepping me as like a a pupil or something you know like you know you can't watch a clockwork orange until you're in high school you know sort of thing you can watch these movies but not these movies you can't watch nudity until you're you know in your teens and everything and and you know every R-rated movie that had nudity in it when it you know before my teens you know it would always cover your eyes sort of thing but like you know going back to total recall the shootout on the escalator and Schwarzenegger using a guy as a human shield yeah you know totally getting obliterated by bullets yeah it's like a that's like a double standard for violence and right you know and nudity which is like crazy because I grew up super religious we're in a religious household so it's like yeah same thing just no nudity but violence was like because I grew up watching shit like because my dad would do a lot of videotape copying we had thousands of videos yeah yeah and Delta Force was one of the earliest memories I have truck Norris yeah shooting people up yeah yeah I big uh basically big fan of like my my idols are basically the cast of the expendables my roommate was making fun of me while we were talking about kill tone she was laughing at me just a second ago but yeah kill Tony man I wanted to get out of there as soon as possible because I have been skittish about my whole banning thing since it happened so I felt like one I was skittish about talking about it and I knew I was gonna talk about it.

Bans, Paranoia, And Supporting The Show

SPEAKER_02 38:54

So that was kind of the whole vibe I had like walking on eggshells. But I guess you know after the appearance I left because I just was like I don't maybe a sense of paranoia possibly yeah like something might happen to me. I don't know. So I took off but because it's kind of crazy when you're when you find out you're banned from one place and then you go somewhere else and they tell you hey it's over here too you go to a third place and it's like what then it's like you're getting your paranoia amps up because it's like how many other places are you know doing this foreshadow ban from where they won't tell you but you can go in there they're just not gonna book you you know right right yeah so that's why I took off but I was happy to get it off my chest to talk about it.

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Yeah yeah what what exactly happened with that or I mean like afterwards yeah nothing red band didn't unban me and Creek has stayed the same and you know taps city's the same I use an alias for taps city to get out there nice nice you gotta get in how you how you can right oh yeah oh yeah and I mean uh I the we have this like big Comic Con up here in in in Pittsburgh and they specifically state like on the website like no un unlike approved media you know and I just assumed that like the guests knew that because like I would ask some of the guests there to do interviews and they'd be like yeah you know I'll do it right now and I'm like well like you know if if the guest is giving consent you know like that should be enough to do it and I would they actually had Ming Chen who was one of the guys from comic book men Kevin Smith's like show that was on AMC for a while. Yeah and he was like come back tomorrow I think I was there on like a Friday and he was like come back on a Saturday and I'll do like a uh you know quick like you know couple minute five minute you know little segment with you live here and he's like you gotta you gotta do like gorilla style and it's like hey you know it's free publicity for for them like what are they gonna do like kick you out for you know interviewing someone who gave consent you know to be interviewed like if you have to do a gorilla style you know that's what you do to get those interviews you know out there and that's what one of coming from one of like the major you know podcasting giants you know in the game so I listened to him and I've gone back there a couple times like you know and gone interviews there was like uh the one year they had like a big like horror themed convention where the Living Dead weekend was there and they had like their own guests and I just went in like was like back like in back hallway areas where like only staff is is allowed and all the guests looked at me and was like he's alright he's alright yeah so you know you just you do what you gotta do to to uh you know keep uh you know what you're trying to do alive yeah you know I I I sympathize and I and I get it yeah yeah it you know it'll work out in time hey there all my fishes in the sea thanks for tuning into today's episode and for being a subscriber your continued listenership and support means the most and helps keep the show growing to deeper and deeper depths I want to let all my guppies in the sea know the fishbowl has now officially partnered with Fastcustomshirts.com where they're now selling custom fishbowl t-shirts under their podcast and website section every t-shirt that's purchased helps and goes a long way to keep the show growing to deeper and deeper in higher higher depths I also now have custom hats beanies handbags pens mouse pads everything to make you look like the coolest looking fish in the sea which you can DM me directly on Instagram at thefishbull88 or on Facebook at just the fishbowl or you can friend request me Sam Fish directly and get yours today. Your continued listenership and support again means the most it's the most important fishes that flock together we are a school of fish and we keep the unit going let's all keep swimming upstream